Congrats. Your award is well deserved. I tested Steam Link with No Man's Sky and the image looked bad, the quality was closer to the Potato mode from Virtual Desktop. I tried to increase the Steam resolution to 150% and it didn't help much and it tanked the FPS and it wasn't using any reprojection. Then I tested with Virtual Desktop on High settings and it looks beautiful with steady 72 FPS using the SSW (Spacewarp). So Virtual Desktop is the winner for me. I prefer the best possible image quality and I don't mind the barely noticeable reprojection. It seems that Steam Link is designed to give you real FPS at the expense of image resolution with zero reprojection, while Virtual Desktop is designed for the best possible image quality/resolution at the expense of lower FPS+reprojection. I'll continue using Virtual Desktop, and I hope this adds extra fire to Guy Godin's motivation to improve Virtual Desktop even further.
My 3060 is horrid just in the menu part.... So you're saying run it through VR Desktop....?? I wanna play Half Life but I don't think my Rig will run it... I'm linked in and all... But haven't purchased any stream VR titles
@@MrParis215 I think your 3060 is too weak for No Man's Sky. I have a 3070 GPU (~50% better than 3060 according to userbenchmark), and I can barely run it on High at 72 FPS with reprojection, your GPU might run it on Potato mode with very bad graphics or medium with a lot of reprojection. I've heard that Half Life Alyx is well optimized so you might be able to play it without issues, but probably on medium.
@@MrParis215You also need to make sure that your PC is connected to the router with an ethernet cable, your router is 5G, and you're playing close to the router. You should see +1000mbps speed in the Virtual Desktop's welcome screen on the Quest.
I tried Steamlink yesterday and for the first time I was able to run NMS in enhanced mode and it was super smooth. I will still use VD for playing flat screen games on my Quest 3 as Iove the giant screen and being able to clearly see my keyboard in pass through.
Thanks, Benjo. I've been using Virtual desktop for the past 3 months, but i always find, for me personally, latency issues. I've just downloaded the Steam link and played kayak Vr on my 4080 laptop and put it in cinematic mode with 90hz and it's under 8ms. I am amazed. All thanks to you. 🎉😁
Congratulations again Ben! You definitely earned that win! Thank you for this video. When you have more time, can you do an in depth comparison of VD and Steam.
I just wanted to point out a few things, the big one is yes, you can play any games outside of steam on steam link and steam VR. You add them via the non steam game method on the computer and they should have a tab in steam VR to go to them. As well you can get out of the "home" area to just a black screen for more immersion with flat games and that might help the steaming of more demanding flat games. You can as well change the encoder type, bit rate and most everything else. A lot of good things with steam link. Only thing I know or at least I have about with virtual desktop that steam for sure it doesn't have the ability is to be able to attach the flat screen game to your view and allow head tracking to move the screen around with you.
Could you do a video that benchmarks the performance you get in Steam Link vs Virtual Desktop? So many impressions and videos within the community just simply state that 'it feels good, but not as good as Virtual Desktop', or vice versa, or 'I don't feel the latency at all', but that's really vague.
I used VD for Steam VR and there is definetly a noticable improvement for me. I had here and there some microfreezes while playing steam games. This has been gone with Steam Link. The only thing thats not working anymore is Beat Saber over the Steam Link Connection. Its stuck on the Next up screen and nothing happens.
You get a major, massive boost with VD using VDXR, which in a simple form, emulates Oculus and allows you to run games without even needing Oculus or SteamVR open. Otherwise, it will be near identical to running SteamVR thru VD itself, or Link.
@@Tomjones12345 Yes good point. I hadn't noticed it in the games I tried so far (that was the awesome part) but then I tried Hitman VR and the ffr was pretty extreme. But I assume Valve will keep improving on this.
I was testing Half Life Alyx with Steam Link and it was pretty nice, but I had a few random visual floor glitches (black voids) while walking around. Seamed mostly smooth, but a few micro stutters here and there... it's pretty good already and I'm sure it'll only get better!
Congrats on your award, well deserved:) and thank you for checking out all the various methods of wireless PC VR on Quest 2/3. On that point: I wonder what you think of the D-Link VR Air Bridge… seems like a alternative way of playing wireless VR when you don’t have a good networking infrastructure at home. Anyway, keep up the great content!
I made the mistake of buying most of my games on Oculus before they became Meta and forgot that PC exists. My Rift never worked very well with Steam on my old PC. This might be a good reason to re-visit Steam VR as it seems nobody has called Meta to tell them PC still exists, or maybe somebody called and they got the Meta customer service bot. 🤷
CONGRATULATIONS MATE! Well deserved. Always informative, witty, charming , relatable and down-to-earth! Thank you for being and keeping Real BB! Love to ya bruv!
Tried this with red dead redemption 2 and works flawlessly. If Steam can just add a SBS mode into this we could pair with reshades VR shader , I would be so happy.
Valve seems to have a good handle on writing quality software. It seems that Alan Wake may be a bit heavy to render and stream simultaneously, especially at a high resolution. Maybe it's possible to have a better experience by dropping the resolution a bit?
Congrats on the win Benjo, I would say its well deserved as you have given yourself a very unique and worthwhile viewing style filled with good chat and common sense. Please keep this formula and do not start to get gimmicky. Be yourself, dont try to grow 'too quick' and I am sure you will continue to have success over the coming years.
Weird. I just gave it a crack on the Quest 2 and didn't notice a drop in edge to edge clarity in comparison to VD or Airlink. I only checked out Tetris Effect though.
@@tobiasmyers3505 I really looked for aggressive foveated rendering after seeing it mentioned in videos by Tyriel Wood and Blunty. Still don't really see it. After using Steam Link longer I have had other issues though. After using it I have to restart steam before it will detect my PC. It won't allow me to set the encoded video size above 1024 (just resets to 1024). If I manually increase the per-eye render resolution to 100% instead of auto and don't move my head, I start getting weird contrasting spiral patterns outside of a central rectangle. This was in everything from Compound through to VRchat, Pavlov and Into The Radius. Still needs some work.
I decided to subscribe... You presented this so simply I just had to play a bit of Alyx myself... Blown away with the wireless performance! Thank you good sir! (Q3)
Something i immediately noticed is the latency. It does absolutely makes sense why as steam link directly connect to the pc via the Remote play steam protocol instead of the virtual desktop layer then the injection and encryption, then steam vr, but that's allow for people who got use to the 25-40ms latency in virtual desktop from h264 to Av1 10 bit to actually get a very high rez and smooth experience while steam vr is pretty much multisampling video at the standalone quest 3 rez (forgot the valure but it's less than the lenses or what u can get with air link/VD) with an AMD or Nvidia H264 codec. So steam link is basically now the best way to play any fast pace game. Like beat saber or stride etc especially if u can get by the slightly lower overhaul quality and some compression artefact, with the fact that u could still use VD for any other games or just flat screen game and dont forget the Oculus pc library that u cant use with steam Link. I think its rn the best free option for pc vr if you primarily use steam, but is an extremely good option even if you still have VD to still use steam link for your fast pace game. As a Titanfall former competitive player, i can make the difference when on steam link the latency go from 12 to 16 ms, so you can't imagine even after 2 years of Virtual desktop, how i felt the difference in latency on the quest 3 from the 40ms lock on VD and the 12 to 18 on steam link. It was literally a game changer for me
Congrats! I was watching on Jay's livestream and actually predicted you for it before it started. Well earned. Also I think I'll stick to VD just because Guy Godin is a legend who will literally handle a lot of support issues himself
It seems to work pretty well for most games, but I did encounter a few problems. FS2020 loads in the flatscreen version of the game, and even when you try to turn on VR in the settings, it says there's no VR headset connected. No Man's Sky was working until I tried changing the graphics settings and then I got a popup saying Steam Link disconnected from my PC, and when I checked my monitor No Man's Sky was still running, so I know the game didn't crash, Steam Link just did. I'm sure it'll get better, but it's clearly got a few bugs that need to be worked out.
I tried out a Quest 3, I was not expecting it to be much better than the Quest 2. I was wrong, the Quest 2 has issues with halo from white text on black or Grey backgrounds. The resolution of the quest 2 is actually pretty good If you can push all of it but the lenses the blur the small sweet spot it's a problem
I totally missed Steamlink launch and just gave it a try now and made a comparison with Airlink(Q2) in RE2 (DLSS Quality) in exactly same resolution and honestly there is no competition. Airlink is noticeably sharper and also brighter for some reason. Overall entire image looks better and game runs better due to FOV tangent multiplier that can be applied in Airlink. I have prescription lenses and with 85% I don't lose any image from visible field. Link sharpening on Quality preset make a huge difference when using DLSS as the normal preset makes upscalling more aparent. Steamlink sharpening is similar to Normal preset in link. Maxing out Bitrate and encode resolution in Steamlink didn't seem to make much of a difference.
The important setting is the resolution you put in SteamvVR, with a 4090 try it at 400 or 500% And it is much better with the Quest Pro, with eye tracking you don't see the foveated encoding at all, what a piece of software!
So glad this has come to VR, iv used steam link on my Samsung TV for a long time now to stream from my main pc to downstairs so me and my wee boy can play games togeather. Never had any problems with airlink in the past but this will be so much better and can't wait to get my pc VR Games up and running through this.
Congrats on your VR Content Creator of the Year award! I am so stoked on this new app. The airlink never worked well for me but this app makes it playable . I am glad I didn't waste my money on Virtual desktop... Keep making the great vids.. Cheers.
Its also possible to mirror your desktop with the steam link app en start applications outside of steam, i'm running f1 23 in vr just by starting the EA app in windows and it just works perfect!
It's strange how the capture from the headset seems to almost place the camera on your forehead lol. Cause you're clearly looking forward, but to us it's like you're constantly staring at the top of the big virtual screen. Is that something you can adjust?
Do you find the Quest Pro controllers great for using on a Quest 2/3? Are they better than the Quest 2/3 controllers? I'm glad you won VR Creator of the Year! I've been watching your VR content throughout the year and often share your videos with friends.
I've got the pro controllers and personally I love them. There are pros and cons for both controllers. I think I'm in the minority here but I personally don't like the quest 3 controllers so pro controllers were a must for me.
It would be good if Virtual desktop added frame generation to flat screen games like Guy has for VR. Maybe no there is competition it will be something he thinks of. Either way AMD is going to bring that out soon anyway. Well done for the award again fella 👍
I personally found that i got a worse experience using steam link vr than i do using the standard airlink setup. I had some stuttering and image quality would degrade occasionally compared to airlink where its very solid and consistent. Worth noting as well that when using steam link to stream games to my TV i also have similar issues whereas an app like Moonlight is flawless.
Congratz on VR Content Creator of the year and so well deserved. The valve steam vr wireless for me 0 till 2% haptics only in beatsaber and synthriders . Still testing others. I stick with virtual desktop or just link cable
I have been playing Alan Wake and had the same stutter issue you saw. Even though it was running at 200 FPS on my desktop. If I enable v-sync in AW game settings, the issue goes away and it's very smooth in the headset
steam link, literally solved my problem with wirless pcvr, i had 2.5ghz wifi and pc with ethernet cable, it wont work with oculus airlink or virtual desktop, but with steam link it just works perfectly, no delay, weird view glitching or lag, no cable anymore before i had some problems with disconecting every long period but after an update steam just show a message and reconecting automatically again afer 3 seconds and it happends even less, and thats solved it basically, now i can play pcvr wirless with no delay using a 2.5 wifi, it dont disconect and just works... it just come up and make pcvr much better i dint use the metrics thing for seeing the ms yet but testing with my own view and comparing with my pc, it has no visible delay, and feels fine when playing, its amazing, is not blurry also idk what kind of magic is this or maybe the others methods are just bad in stability prob if i had a much better wifi virtual desktop can give better resolution mode but i dont see my steam link having a bad resolution tho comparing to cable link i was playing contractors showdown and i can see the ppl at a vry long range without using any scope u can add any vr game u have locally to steamvr btw now i had 2 months using steam link almost since its launch, i barely use oculus link cable now, for some pcvr games that are just for seat for flat screen pc games on my quest i use immersed it conects wirlessly, and really fast, looks good and give up to 5 screens, even virtual ones using steam link or virtual desktop for that i imagine it vry messy idk
Congrats mate! Steam Link works surprisingly well. Pity it doesn't have direct access to your Rift library. You can access most of these with Revive, but that can sometimes be a little hit and miss, esp. with controller bindings. Also, for games/sims like msfs and Hubris that need OpenXR to run you need to make SteamVR your default OpenXR runtime. I have had VD for +4yrs and still use it once in a while, esp. after updates. I still prefer Air Link but this is really just a personal preference thing since VD also works very well. Thanks for your interesting and informative vids mate and best cheers from Australia.
VD on the Quest Store is better than Steam Link from my own testing, yes it's a paid app but it does more than Steam Link can such as playing your Rift games and virtual cinema so I'd say it's worth the money.
@@acurisur Ya, I think both VD and Air Link are currently still better. I prefer Air Link but VD also works very well, and many find it a little more foolproof to setup and use. Def worth having though.
Thanks for this, we've been dreading setting up Steam on the Quest and I got it setup before the video was done and finally had Alyx running, thank you so fucking much. Just subbed
We need native, wired to PC, mouse and keyboard support with Quest 3 pass-through enabled ability. The ability to simple use the Quest as a large screen with low latency and our USB gsming mice and keyboards in flat screen competitive games at 120hz. You'd think that would be natively supported but it isn't. To Meta, PC compatibility is a lazy afterthought. We're lucky they even have to basic link options now.
Just FYI, the Win11 display setting called "Optimizations for windowed games" might help out if some games aren't working quite right in VR. Not a guarantee, of course, but that has been the case some times.
Congratulations! For future reference, you can buy McFlurry's and store them in the freezer. So when you celebrate more awards, you can do so without ever leaving the house.
non steam vr games run alright, you can just add them to the steam library. What im missing in steam link is the super resolution from Virtual desktop, it just looks much better with it
I never used virtual desktop but as someone who comes from air link I like steam link more, It feels less laggy and in a game like blade in sorcery I get this graphical glitch I called texture stretching but steam link gets rid of it, I haven't tried beat saber for a more faster type game cause I broke mine but other games I've played steam link is awesome
Tons of atmosphere, powerful weapons with small magazines and sluggish reload mechanics, brutal melee combat, methodic and slow gameplay, great sound design... Hunt would be perfect in VR!
Hunt showdown in VR would mean I’d never leave my house again, ever. Hunt is so underrated, a real class act, I mostly play that if flatscreening. VR is another level of immersion, but most of its games are utter dross. Hunt VR - omg, the dream ticket.
Can you please make a video on you home Internet setup? Like what router you are using, your ISP. How you have everything linked and running smoothly to play wireless VR. Your settings for everything too. Thanks!
Wireless has its limits, Quest 3's XR2 USBC controller might be crap but its still double the bandwidth of what you will get from a 6e wireless connection. Whenever i run wireless i have to crank the refresh and supersampling down to prevent tearing
I experience an issue with it. I could not open game menus, it keeped bringing the steam overlay. so cant change game options in most games that uses the 3 bars button as ''start'' buton. congrats for your VR Content creator of the year !! you deserve it.
The biggest problem will be that AVP comes without any controllers which means that literally none of SteamVR games will work (out of the box that is). But in the VR community are many tinkerers that e.g. managed to combine Index controllers with Quests so maybe they'll find a way for AVP as well. But on the other hand Apple is known for not allowing sideloading on most of their platforms and locking down access to deeper systems so that can be an even bigger hurdle.
Steam link has changed my perspective on the Quest 2, airlink was ok but not close to the wireless adapter on my Vive pro. This is awesome, probably going to retire my Vive and pick up a Quest 3, very impressive.
Hello Beardo! Could you test Bigscreen Beyond in games with vr mods? I'm going to choose this VR headset next year and I can't wait. I wonder what 1440p games will look like in these VR glasses and at what cost.
One massive downside on the steamvr link is, that it is only sharp in the center of the view. around the border it gets really blurry. And sharpness around the borders is actually a selling point of the quest 3 and its pancake lenses.
I have so many control problems trying to use VD for wireless VR. I usually use Air Link because of that. I still love VD for accessing my desktop in general, though.
@Beardo Benjo Hello there! I have a technical question. How did you manage to capture your Quest gameplay so well? What did you use for it? I am searching all over the internet for good solutions but dont find any good ones. I mean of course for wireless mode. Is there a video from you where you explain it how to do that? Thank you in advance for the info and keep up the good work!
Gratz on the win! And this is rocking dude. EXACTLY what I wanted! Plug (or wireless) and play!!! :DDD Finally!!! Well done Steam!!! :DDD Er, just so you know, if you connect through air link or cable, Bigscreen plays anything on your pc - playing Wipeout on a ps emulator on a cinema screen? Or MAME? It should be illegal! ;P
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Congrats on your VR Content Creator of the Year award! Your reviews are always entertaining and informative. Keep up the great work!
Congrats. Your award is well deserved.
I tested Steam Link with No Man's Sky and the image looked bad, the quality was closer to the Potato mode from Virtual Desktop. I tried to increase the Steam resolution to 150% and it didn't help much and it tanked the FPS and it wasn't using any reprojection. Then I tested with Virtual Desktop on High settings and it looks beautiful with steady 72 FPS using the SSW (Spacewarp).
So Virtual Desktop is the winner for me. I prefer the best possible image quality and I don't mind the barely noticeable reprojection. It seems that Steam Link is designed to give you real FPS at the expense of image resolution with zero reprojection, while Virtual Desktop is designed for the best possible image quality/resolution at the expense of lower FPS+reprojection.
I'll continue using Virtual Desktop, and I hope this adds extra fire to Guy Godin's motivation to improve Virtual Desktop even further.
Same here.
My 3060 is horrid just in the menu part.... So you're saying run it through VR Desktop....?? I wanna play Half Life but I don't think my Rig will run it... I'm linked in and all... But haven't purchased any stream VR titles
@@MrParis215 I think your 3060 is too weak for No Man's Sky. I have a 3070 GPU (~50% better than 3060 according to userbenchmark), and I can barely run it on High at 72 FPS with reprojection, your GPU might run it on Potato mode with very bad graphics or medium with a lot of reprojection.
I've heard that Half Life Alyx is well optimized so you might be able to play it without issues, but probably on medium.
@@MrParis215You also need to make sure that your PC is connected to the router with an ethernet cable, your router is 5G, and you're playing close to the router. You should see +1000mbps speed in the Virtual Desktop's welcome screen on the Quest.
I tried Steamlink yesterday and for the first time I was able to run NMS in enhanced mode and it was super smooth. I will still use VD for playing flat screen games on my Quest 3 as Iove the giant screen and being able to clearly see my keyboard in pass through.
You play flat screen games with a vr headset on? Wtf
@@milky7550 I have a laptop so the big screen using Quest 3 is awesome.
I also watch Netflix. I get great value out of my Quest 3 😆
@@splitenz1770 that’s sad man, you legit where it no matter what u do
@@milky7550how's that sad?
Thanks, Benjo. I've been using Virtual desktop for the past 3 months, but i always find, for me personally, latency issues. I've just downloaded the Steam link and played kayak Vr on my 4080 laptop and put it in cinematic mode with 90hz and it's under 8ms. I am amazed. All thanks to you. 🎉😁
Congratulations again Ben! You definitely earned that win! Thank you for this video. When you have more time, can you do an in depth comparison of VD and Steam.
I just wanted to point out a few things, the big one is yes, you can play any games outside of steam on steam link and steam VR. You add them via the non steam game method on the computer and they should have a tab in steam VR to go to them. As well you can get out of the "home" area to just a black screen for more immersion with flat games and that might help the steaming of more demanding flat games. You can as well change the encoder type, bit rate and most everything else. A lot of good things with steam link. Only thing I know or at least I have about with virtual desktop that steam for sure it doesn't have the ability is to be able to attach the flat screen game to your view and allow head tracking to move the screen around with you.
The latency is really good for flat screen games too! The foveated rendering on quest pro brings that latency even lower.
Could you do a video that benchmarks the performance you get in Steam Link vs Virtual Desktop? So many impressions and videos within the community just simply state that 'it feels good, but not as good as Virtual Desktop', or vice versa, or 'I don't feel the latency at all', but that's really vague.
I used VD for Steam VR and there is definetly a noticable improvement for me. I had here and there some microfreezes while playing steam games. This has been gone with Steam Link. The only thing thats not working anymore is Beat Saber over the Steam Link Connection. Its stuck on the Next up screen and nothing happens.
You get a major, massive boost with VD using VDXR, which in a simple form, emulates Oculus and allows you to run games without even needing Oculus or SteamVR open. Otherwise, it will be near identical to running SteamVR thru VD itself, or Link.
The best person won the award. Well deserved. Thank you for the time you put in to your videos. Your my favorite hands down. Congrats 🎉
It's freaking fantastic to have Steam Link on the Quest. Installing took 3 minutes, works awesome :)
i have a question. Does it work better than using quest link?
It works good, but I wouldn't call it awesome yet. The foveated rendering is too aggressive with no option to change it.
@@Tomjones12345 Yes good point. I hadn't noticed it in the games I tried so far (that was the awesome part) but then I tried Hitman VR and the ffr was pretty extreme. But I assume Valve will keep improving on this.
so is less laggy with movements? Like in ghosts of tabor?
You won! Ayyyy, congratulations mate you absolutely deserved it. Far and away my favourite VR channel on TH-cam. ❤
Congratulations on the award 🎉. Well deserved, you definitely inspired me to jump into VR.
I was testing Half Life Alyx with Steam Link and it was pretty nice, but I had a few random visual floor glitches (black voids) while walking around. Seamed mostly smooth, but a few micro stutters here and there... it's pretty good already and I'm sure it'll only get better!
Did you find any "float" to your hands?
@@sYd6point7 in the steam vr void I had really smooth tracking of my Q3 controllers
Damn! Congrats on winning the VR Content Creator of the Year award. Keep up the great content. Might have to give this Steam Link a try.
Congrats on the award! your vr content is my favorite out of pretty much all the creators! Much deserved
Congrats on your award, well deserved:) and thank you for checking out all the various methods of wireless PC VR on Quest 2/3. On that point: I wonder what you think of the D-Link VR Air Bridge… seems like a alternative way of playing wireless VR when you don’t have a good networking infrastructure at home. Anyway, keep up the great content!
Congratulations on the VR Content Creator of the Year Award! Well deserved!
May you continue with much success now and into the future!
So glad I finally decided to get a Quest 2 on the Black Friday sales. Really liking the Steam Link stuff.
Your GPU is probably struggling to simultaneously render both the Steam home environment and resource-intensive game like Alan Wake.
I made the mistake of buying most of my games on Oculus before they became Meta and forgot that PC exists. My Rift never worked very well with Steam on my old PC. This might be a good reason to re-visit Steam VR as it seems nobody has called Meta to tell them PC still exists, or maybe somebody called and they got the Meta customer service bot. 🤷
AYYYY Congrats on the Award mate, you deserve it! Love watching your videos :)
CONGRATULATIONS MATE! Well deserved. Always informative, witty, charming , relatable and down-to-earth! Thank you for being and keeping Real BB! Love to ya bruv!
Tried this with red dead redemption 2 and works flawlessly. If Steam can just add a SBS mode into this we could pair with reshades VR shader , I would be so happy.
Valve seems to have a good handle on writing quality software.
It seems that Alan Wake may be a bit heavy to render and stream simultaneously, especially at a high resolution. Maybe it's possible to have a better experience by dropping the resolution a bit?
I would disable Steam Home also .. performance hog👍
@@dabuski1 Exactly! Basically, it's like running two games at once
@@dabuski1 Exactly. I have been into VR since day one, Steam VR Home is notoriously HEAVY...
Congrats on the win Benjo, I would say its well deserved as you have given yourself a very unique and worthwhile viewing style filled with good chat and common sense. Please keep this formula and do not start to get gimmicky. Be yourself, dont try to grow 'too quick' and I am sure you will continue to have success over the coming years.
Steam Link seems to have INSANE amounts of foveated encoding. Makes the Quest 3 look super blurry outside of direct center. Any comment on that?
Weird. I just gave it a crack on the Quest 2 and didn't notice a drop in edge to edge clarity in comparison to VD or Airlink. I only checked out Tetris Effect though.
There is a setting you can change to fix this. Open app menu, Vr settings, Steam link & increase the Encoded Video Size
@@Joric78 You won't notice as much on fresnel lens headsets, which is 90%+ of what's out there, so it makes sense that it is default as it will help.
@@tobiasmyers3505 I really looked for aggressive foveated rendering after seeing it mentioned in videos by Tyriel Wood and Blunty. Still don't really see it.
After using Steam Link longer I have had other issues though. After using it I have to restart steam before it will detect my PC. It won't allow me to set the encoded video size above 1024 (just resets to 1024). If I manually increase the per-eye render resolution to 100% instead of auto and don't move my head, I start getting weird contrasting spiral patterns outside of a central rectangle. This was in everything from Compound through to VRchat, Pavlov and Into The Radius.
Still needs some work.
Holy shit, congrats Ben! You're the only one I really watch anymore. Well deserved. Cheers!
literally just purchaced VD 4 days ago. Oh well having options is always handy.
I decided to subscribe... You presented this so simply I just had to play a bit of Alyx myself... Blown away with the wireless performance! Thank you good sir! (Q3)
Something i immediately noticed is the latency. It does absolutely makes sense why as steam link directly connect to the pc via the Remote play steam protocol instead of the virtual desktop layer then the injection and encryption, then steam vr, but that's allow for people who got use to the 25-40ms latency in virtual desktop from h264 to Av1 10 bit to actually get a very high rez and smooth experience while steam vr is pretty much multisampling video at the standalone quest 3 rez (forgot the valure but it's less than the lenses or what u can get with air link/VD) with an AMD or Nvidia H264 codec. So steam link is basically now the best way to play any fast pace game. Like beat saber or stride etc especially if u can get by the slightly lower overhaul quality and some compression artefact, with the fact that u could still use VD for any other games or just flat screen game and dont forget the Oculus pc library that u cant use with steam Link. I think its rn the best free option for pc vr if you primarily use steam, but is an extremely good option even if you still have VD to still use steam link for your fast pace game. As a Titanfall former competitive player, i can make the difference when on steam link the latency go from 12 to 16 ms, so you can't imagine even after 2 years of Virtual desktop, how i felt the difference in latency on the quest 3 from the 40ms lock on VD and the 12 to 18 on steam link. It was literally a game changer for me
I installed steam link yesterday and I was really impressed.
Is the graphics quality any better? Or atleast more consistent?
I'm hoping this will solve my issue because Airlink doesn't work at all for me, and Virtual Desktop gets terrible stutter every 5-10 minutes.
That’s the issue I always have. I’m gonna buy a cord if steamlink doesn’t fix
Congratulations! Voted for you and glad you got the recognition you deserve!
Grats Ben! 🎉 100% deserved. You are ans will forever be the VR content creator NR1 in the world 🌎 ❤
Congrats! I was watching on Jay's livestream and actually predicted you for it before it started. Well earned. Also I think I'll stick to VD just because Guy Godin is a legend who will literally handle a lot of support issues himself
You deserved it man, you're just such a charismatic guy, and your content always comes off as such high quality but casual at the same time.
It seems to work pretty well for most games, but I did encounter a few problems. FS2020 loads in the flatscreen version of the game, and even when you try to turn on VR in the settings, it says there's no VR headset connected. No Man's Sky was working until I tried changing the graphics settings and then I got a popup saying Steam Link disconnected from my PC, and when I checked my monitor No Man's Sky was still running, so I know the game didn't crash, Steam Link just did. I'm sure it'll get better, but it's clearly got a few bugs that need to be worked out.
I tried out a Quest 3, I was not expecting it to be much better than the Quest 2. I was wrong, the Quest 2 has issues with halo from white text on black or Grey backgrounds. The resolution of the quest 2 is actually pretty good If you can push all of it but the lenses the blur the small sweet spot it's a problem
Gonna download this now, cheers for the info Benjo
Congrats on the award. Well deserved.
I tried the Steam Link and i get an "Unavailable" message. Oh well, hopefully it comes back for us!.
I totally missed Steamlink launch and just gave it a try now and made a comparison with Airlink(Q2) in RE2 (DLSS Quality) in exactly same resolution and honestly there is no competition. Airlink is noticeably sharper and also brighter for some reason. Overall entire image looks better and game runs better due to FOV tangent multiplier that can be applied in Airlink. I have prescription lenses and with 85% I don't lose any image from visible field. Link sharpening on Quality preset make a huge difference when using DLSS as the normal preset makes upscalling more aparent. Steamlink sharpening is similar to Normal preset in link. Maxing out Bitrate and encode resolution in Steamlink didn't seem to make much of a difference.
I tried Breachers and it was laggy. Never had any issues before. Congratulations by the way!
The important setting is the resolution you put in SteamvVR, with a 4090 try it at 400 or 500%
And it is much better with the Quest Pro, with eye tracking you don't see the foveated encoding at all, what a piece of software!
So glad this has come to VR, iv used steam link on my Samsung TV for a long time now to stream from my main pc to downstairs so me and my wee boy can play games togeather. Never had any problems with airlink in the past but this will be so much better and can't wait to get my pc VR Games up and running through this.
you deserve it men, congratulations and a hug from Tabio Colombia.
Congrats on your VR Content Creator of the Year award! I am so stoked on this new app. The airlink never worked well for me but this app makes it playable . I am glad I didn't waste my money on Virtual desktop... Keep making the great vids.. Cheers.
I don’t know what’s more amazing, your award or your McDonald’s having a functioning ice cream machine AT MIDNIGHT 🎉
Perfect timing. I was just thinking of trying steam link and your video popped up. Thanks for the demo.
Does steam link run on your pc or your headset? Like do you need a good pc?
Its also possible to mirror your desktop with the steam link app en start applications outside of steam, i'm running f1 23 in vr just by starting the EA app in windows and it just works perfect!
It's strange how the capture from the headset seems to almost place the camera on your forehead lol. Cause you're clearly looking forward, but to us it's like you're constantly staring at the top of the big virtual screen. Is that something you can adjust?
Do you find the Quest Pro controllers great for using on a Quest 2/3? Are they better than the Quest 2/3 controllers?
I'm glad you won VR Creator of the Year! I've been watching your VR content throughout the year and often share your videos with friends.
I've got the pro controllers and personally I love them.
There are pros and cons for both controllers. I think I'm in the minority here but I personally don't like the quest 3 controllers so pro controllers were a must for me.
It would be good if Virtual desktop added frame generation to flat screen games like Guy has for VR. Maybe no there is competition it will be something he thinks of. Either way AMD is going to bring that out soon anyway. Well done for the award again fella 👍
I personally found that i got a worse experience using steam link vr than i do using the standard airlink setup.
I had some stuttering and image quality would degrade occasionally compared to airlink where its very solid and consistent.
Worth noting as well that when using steam link to stream games to my TV i also have similar issues whereas an app like Moonlight is flawless.
I have the same experience. Airlink is super smooth while steam link has strange stuttering.
Congratz on VR Content Creator of the year and so well deserved. The valve steam vr wireless for me 0 till 2% haptics only in beatsaber and synthriders . Still testing others. I stick with virtual desktop or just link cable
Should I leave it at 90hz or put it to 120 hz? (Quest 2)
You're my favorite VR TH-camr!! Deserved win for you:) Do you know if Steam VR app will work if I have Steam on a Macbook Air?
Congratulations on your award mate, I've been enjoying your content for years.
I have been playing Alan Wake and had the same stutter issue you saw. Even though it was running at 200 FPS on my desktop.
If I enable v-sync in AW game settings, the issue goes away and it's very smooth in the headset
steam link, literally solved my problem with wirless pcvr, i had 2.5ghz wifi and pc with ethernet cable, it wont work with oculus airlink or virtual desktop, but with steam link it just works perfectly, no delay, weird view glitching or lag, no cable anymore
before i had some problems with disconecting every long period but after an update steam just show a message and reconecting automatically again afer 3 seconds and it happends even less, and thats solved it basically, now i can play pcvr wirless with no delay using a 2.5 wifi, it dont disconect and just works...
it just come up and make pcvr much better
i dint use the metrics thing for seeing the ms yet but testing with my own view and comparing with my pc, it has no visible delay, and feels fine when playing, its amazing, is not blurry also
idk what kind of magic is this or maybe the others methods are just bad in stability
prob if i had a much better wifi virtual desktop can give better resolution mode but i dont see my steam link having a bad resolution tho comparing to cable link
i was playing contractors showdown and i can see the ppl at a vry long range without using any scope
u can add any vr game u have locally to steamvr btw
now i had 2 months using steam link almost since its launch, i barely use oculus link cable now, for some pcvr games that are just for seat
for flat screen pc games on my quest i use immersed it conects wirlessly, and really fast, looks good and give up to 5 screens, even virtual ones
using steam link or virtual desktop for that i imagine it vry messy idk
Congrats mate! Steam Link works surprisingly well. Pity it doesn't have direct access to your Rift library. You can access most of these with Revive, but that can sometimes be a little hit and miss, esp. with controller bindings. Also, for games/sims like msfs and Hubris that need OpenXR to run you need to make SteamVR your default OpenXR runtime. I have had VD for +4yrs and still use it once in a while, esp. after updates. I still prefer Air Link but this is really just a personal preference thing since VD also works very well. Thanks for your interesting and informative vids mate and best cheers from Australia.
VD on the Quest Store is better than Steam Link from my own testing, yes it's a paid app but it does more than Steam Link can such as playing your Rift games and virtual cinema so I'd say it's worth the money.
@@acurisur Ya, I think both VD and Air Link are currently still better. I prefer Air Link but VD also works very well, and many find it a little more foolproof to setup and use. Def worth having though.
Congratulations, love your content and way to go....celebrating with a McFlurry!
I love how you place your excitement for VR creator of the year and Steam Link on the same plane. Haha
Congradshulations!! Lol on content creator of the year!!
I tried just now. It runs so smooth on my poor laptop! I love it. And yes, it could definitely replace virtual desktop for no doubt!
Thanks for this, we've been dreading setting up Steam on the Quest and I got it setup before the video was done and finally had Alyx running, thank you so fucking much.
Just subbed
We need native, wired to PC, mouse and keyboard support with Quest 3 pass-through enabled ability. The ability to simple use the Quest as a large screen with low latency and our USB gsming mice and keyboards in flat screen competitive games at 120hz. You'd think that would be natively supported but it isn't. To Meta, PC compatibility is a lazy afterthought. We're lucky they even have to basic link options now.
Just FYI, the Win11 display setting called "Optimizations for windowed games" might help out if some games aren't working quite right in VR. Not a guarantee, of course, but that has been the case some times.
Omg I want that Binding of Isaac figure! Legit one of my favourite games of all time
Well deserved and congratulations!
Congratulations!
For future reference, you can buy McFlurry's and store them in the freezer. So when you celebrate more awards, you can do so without ever leaving the house.
you deserve that award more than anybody
Congratulations man!!!🎉 I love steam link except I can't get my mic on my quest to work with it😢.
non steam vr games run alright, you can just add them to the steam library. What im missing in steam link is the super resolution from Virtual desktop, it just looks much better with it
I never used virtual desktop but as someone who comes from air link I like steam link more, It feels less laggy and in a game like blade in sorcery I get this graphical glitch I called texture stretching but steam link gets rid of it, I haven't tried beat saber for a more faster type game cause I broke mine but other games I've played steam link is awesome
Love the Hunt: Showdown test. It would be SO good in real vr.
The game's arleady so tense, VR Hunt would be insane!
Tons of atmosphere, powerful weapons with small magazines and sluggish reload mechanics, brutal melee combat, methodic and slow gameplay, great sound design... Hunt would be perfect in VR!
Hunt showdown in VR would mean I’d never leave my house again, ever. Hunt is so underrated, a real class act, I mostly play that if flatscreening. VR is another level of immersion, but most of its games are utter dross. Hunt VR - omg, the dream ticket.
oh damn man I am so happy for you wining!
Can you please make a video on you home Internet setup? Like what router you are using, your ISP. How you have everything linked and running smoothly to play wireless VR. Your settings for everything too. Thanks!
Wireless has its limits, Quest 3's XR2 USBC controller might be crap but its still double the bandwidth of what you will get from a 6e wireless connection. Whenever i run wireless i have to crank the refresh and supersampling down to prevent tearing
I experience an issue with it. I could not open game menus, it keeped bringing the steam overlay. so cant change game options in most games that uses the 3 bars button as ''start'' buton.
congrats for your VR Content creator of the year !! you deserve it.
Hi Beardo. Thumbs up for your video!! I would like to ask you, what wifi router do you use?
Mean while we looking at that elite library of unaccessible games you exclusively rocking in that menu, 🔥🔥🔥 can't wait to play underdogs
I noticed the juddering right away. Hopefully they get that fixed soon. Other than that it is my preferred way to get into PCVR.
Saw earlier that this had launched but knew I had to wait for an award winning video before trying it 😁Congratulations
I wonder if Steam Link will come to Vision Pro? I’m really hoping Virtual Desktop does so I can play PCVR on it too.
The biggest problem will be that AVP comes without any controllers which means that literally none of SteamVR games will work (out of the box that is).
But in the VR community are many tinkerers that e.g. managed to combine Index controllers with Quests so maybe they'll find a way for AVP as well.
But on the other hand Apple is known for not allowing sideloading on most of their platforms and locking down access to deeper systems so that can be an even bigger hurdle.
That headset isn't really for gaming
Congratulations dude!!!!
Congratulations on your well deserved award! You are the best, my friend.
Steam link has changed my perspective on the Quest 2, airlink was ok but not close to the wireless adapter on my Vive pro. This is awesome, probably going to retire my Vive and pick up a Quest 3, very impressive.
Hello Beardo! Could you test Bigscreen Beyond in games with vr mods? I'm going to choose this VR headset next year and I can't wait. I wonder what 1440p games will look like in these VR glasses and at what cost.
One massive downside on the steamvr link is, that it is only sharp in the center of the view. around the border it gets really blurry.
And sharpness around the borders is actually a selling point of the quest 3 and its pancake lenses.
Isaaaaaaac! Never knew about this game, just started and its awesome
I have so many control problems trying to use VD for wireless VR. I usually use Air Link because of that. I still love VD for accessing my desktop in general, though.
Congrats on ya award my brother!😊
In the flat steam link, you can minimize big picture and use tthe entire computer in stream
Congrats!! ❤🎉
Bro Congrats I saw that this morning on my phone and super happy for you bro.
Oh, shit, man, congratulations!!! You had my vote.
@Beardo Benjo Hello there! I have a technical question. How did you manage to capture your Quest gameplay so well? What did you use for it? I am searching all over the internet for good solutions but dont find any good ones. I mean of course for wireless mode. Is there a video from you where you explain it how to do that? Thank you in advance for the info and keep up the good work!
Gratz on the win! And this is rocking dude. EXACTLY what I wanted! Plug (or wireless) and play!!! :DDD Finally!!! Well done Steam!!! :DDD Er, just so you know, if you connect through air link or cable, Bigscreen plays anything on your pc - playing Wipeout on a ps emulator on a cinema screen? Or MAME? It should be illegal! ;P
I purchased Virtual Desktop a few minutes before seeing this video. Hope it still has a place as you say. 😅
had to pause the vid to go check this for myself (good wifi6 at home)
its very good!