The most hilarious part of BioShock is when they take all your guns except the wrench, like I hadn't been using the wrench almost exclusively anyway. It's the best weapon in the game.
that reminds me of a ruined comic book: the "armageddon 2001" miniseries. part of the ending leaked, so they hastily made a different ending that made NO sense.
@@tubensalat1453 essentially “the major plot points has been spoiled, we need to change them so we can keep people on their toes” games like those live off of you playing by ear. If you know what’s going to happen it will effect the way you approach the game which will remove some of that engagement with a game centered around making choices.
@@Broomer52 OK, but I mostly blame people who look up spoilers, so my sympathy with them is very limited and they shouldn't cause a game to be worse than it could've been.
Vas' death wasn't what the problem was it's the fact that they used the "hidden bad guy" trope the thing is they introduced what's his name horribly, the story didn't hide hints of him being there, he wasn't given the same personal connection Vas had the only thing this dude had was a big army which guess what Vas had that too.
Yeah like don't get me wrong I wasn't fine with it being more or less a QTE. But it was tolerable and wasn't a problem if again what's his name wasn't so forgettable. It's like if the Dark Knight switched up Heath Ledger with someone stupid like Jared Leto to finish up Joker's parts in that movie who wouldn't feel annoyed.
Yeah I agree Vaas is the memorable one out of all the "bad guys" in FarCry3. Hoyt is pretty much very forgettable standing in 3rd IMO with Vass 1st and Buck 2nd. I still play it now on PC (even though it seems to crash more than Skyrim does) and hearing Vaas' lines about how his sister forces him into making a choice "them or me" only to find she does the same thing to us after we rescue all our remaining friends. FarCry3 feels like it ends after we kill Vaas & the rest of the game is tacked on to give it longer playtime.
Regarding the Mary Jane thing, here's a note to all devs lol - No one wants sections like that, just don't do them. Not wanting MJ to be a damsel in distress is all well and good, MJ is a badass for sure, but make her a badass in a cutscene. The action was already plenty broken up, finding collectables and stuff is more than enough variation lol
Eh, the idea of being a reporter and sneaking around getting information was fine, for me personally. The sections were not that long overall and we got back to being Spider pretty quick. However, once we got to the train station, then yeah, I was pretty done with it.
I guess today's generation doesn't have the patience or brain power to complete stealth missions now, I mean look what they did to the AC games, sad that strategy is being favored over hack and slash
@@TomBongJovi Lol okay. One, pretty sure I'm older than you and two, oh yeah you're so smart cause you can wait for someone to turn around. People like you are so pathetic, please do the world a favor and never open your worthless fucking mouth again. Elitist cause you can play a stealth game, and considering the original ACs stealth games over something good like thief or splinter cell. Fucking pathetic, stupid, worthless stain you are, please stop wasting my oxygen.
Forced stealth sections in games can be a good thing if they’re done well. Mech assault 2 did a good job of it because it gave you a tense situation where you had no way to directly fight back until you could find a vacant mech, and in the meantime you have to either sneak around them, slowly dwindle them down with explosives, or topple a building to take out a mech in one go. It was a nice change of pace. Also these sections weren’t dragged out, and didn’t span entire levels. There was only 2 or 3 mandatory stealth sections and they were only small sections in levels if I remember correctly. Other than that the game only recommended stealth in some areas, and did not force your hand in it outside of the 2-3 areas.
8:58. See, I always imagined the original ME3 ending as making a kind of sense...that the Reapers were such an enormous, overpowering threat that all our little choices that we thought were so important just meant nothing in the face of an enemy so damn big. And so in the end we have no choice....the threat of the Reapers is so big that we just have no choice in confronting it, but Sheppard tried to convince themselves otherwise. That having been said, the expanded ending is absolutely better, no question.
Either this or the Reaper winning. I know, this also would have made a pretty big outrage, but at least it would not make the Reaper look so weak and stupid. I love the idea from Relays being destroyed... okay, in the end this is what we get in the red ending XD
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When I see Jules on a video I 100% skip it, won't even click. The guy is creepy AF especially with his cringe ass endings. I really wish he would stop being in videos all together so I can actually watch them...
Actually silent hill 2 didn't need the fog, the fog was a result of the original silent hill needing to mask the rendering, it went over so well that they made it a staple of the series, silent hill 2 was on the ps2 which had enough power to render just fine but the fog added atmosphere and mystery so they kept it
I mean, no, that ending to Mass Effect 3 would have been even more loathed, as seen by the fact that part of the expanded endings needed to make it clear that the relays _weren't_ destroyed and the races _weren't_ cut off from each other because people hated the implication that was what had happened in the original version of the ending so much. The rumored other ending that people were upset about not getting was the one where something something dark matter. (I don't remember the details too much since I didn't find 'It was brought up during Tali's recruitment mission!' to actually be any more meaningfully foreshadowing than the BS we actually got.)
We didn't want MJ to be a damsel in distress, so we made her part of the game really annoying. That way players wanted her dead so they never have to play her sections again. Developers say this a lot. We wanted to show what it would be like to not have powers in a world of super heroes. It sucks. Everyone wants super powers. No one wants to be ordinary in a world of heroes.
@@BaxterAndLunala Orbital Drop Shock Troopers were still some of the baddest motherfuckers outside of the Spartans. I don't feel like your comparison holds up well.
@@green49285 No it doesn't, because being an ODST is much more fun than being a Spartan. Plus, both Halo 2 and 3 were a slog compared to ODST in the fact the gameplay felt rather boring. Whereas both had annoying ways for enemies to kill you plus a lot of room for error, ODST made you feel like playing Call of Duty on steroids with vehicles, in fast paced action, the need to actively take cover, and no room for error. Plus, the stealth sections were one of the best parts of the game. You weren't some absolute tank that could punch a hole in concrete, you were a normal soldier, that, while special forces, would still fall to aliens easily.
Wait … the person in charge of creating the boss fights for deus ex didn’t know what the game was even going to be, so he just winged it and turned in the final product, possibly with absolutely no communication. How does that happen. Like which side thought that was a good idea, the team making boss fights for a game they know nothing about or the game developers that asked a 3rd party team to create the boss fights with absolutely nothing to go on.
I finally recently played the Spider-man game & had no issues with the Stealth sections. Miles is has them too, not just MJ. Though I did enjoy MJs more when she had the stun gun. The part with Miles & Rhino was what I disliked due to the fact there are parts where it is unclear where to go, leading to several stompings.
Same, I didn't mind MJ's parts, partly because I knew they were coming since I got it on Steam, but Miles running from Rino had me in a few spots cause I had no clue where I was going. Also, some of those parts with MJ kept the story moving forward and gave a unique POV. Maybe they did overstay their welcome near the end, but we came back to Spider Man fairly quickly
For me the stealth sections were so annoying that I started using a trainer to make the enemies not see MJ or Miles so I could just walk straight to the goal.
Leaks "ruining" games is such a dumb thing to me. Like...yeah...it sucks it got leaked and there are bound to be people who got spoiled against their will but I don't get why you'd make the decision to completely dump and scramble for a brand new story rather than just go "Well that sucks, guys, be careful with your online reading because assholes are spoiling the ending". A spoiled but great ending seems like it would be much better received than a unspoiled turd sandwich...
"15 years after its initial release." Jess, the original N64 version was released in 1995, the one you were talking about was Goldeneye Reloaded on the Wii, which was released in 2010, then released a year later on PS3 and Xbox 360, while the port of the original was released just two months ago, at the time of this comment's posting.
I like how you try to correct her and you still got the release date wrong lol. The movie came out in 1995, the game came out two years later in 1997. The N64 wasn’t even out yet in 1995.
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You know the theme I kept hearing? "Not enough time." Game after game was damaged, even ruined, because they didn't get the time they needed to do it right. Just imagine how much studios would make if they allowed developers the time they needed to make a game a fully finished product. CyberPunk 2077 has managed to be a financial success (I think), but if they had spent the time to finish it, it might have shattered records. We might have gotten fans demanding Mass Effect 4. Deus Ex might have seen a massive resurgence. On and on it goes. But greed and impatience cost them those chances. Ironic since they'd have gotten what they wanted and more, had they just taken the time to do it right.
@@lucasspeirs same here too. I love the Xbox port, especially with how easy it is to customize the controls to a very comfortable dual stick setup. Not a multiplayer guy in general and I've never understood the whining about 30FPS ( I've legit never even noticed a difference in framerate unless it's so bugged out & laggy it's like a Windows photo viewer slideshow on Windows 98 ).
Alot of the time cutscene are in fact loading screens (ps4 gen, possibly ps3 gen) and later. You'll know that it's a disguised loading screen if it's "unskipable". It's easy to play a scene that allready exists (DVD disk) and harder to fully load an interactive environment.
The thing that got me about Mary Jane's stealth missions was the weak distraction mechanic they gave her. Peter had the superpowers to help him. Miles had the phone app that let him make electronics malfunction. Pretty cool gimmick for an unpowered character. But Mary Jane had to rely on risky environmental junk like knocking toolboxes over. If we could have done something like blinding guards with her camera flash, then cool. But what they did was a little too realism over fun.
I like the explanation of why in just cause 1 last mission is so frustrating and seems like kind of a mess. "We did not know what we were doing" was the explanation developers gave.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution “step back into the shoes of Adam Jensen”. Huh? You played as JC Denton in the original Deus Ex. HR is a prequel set 25 years before the events of the original Deus Ex.
I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I always had the feeling those "leaks" were done in purpose, so Walters and Hudson could be like "Ah, darn! Our great story... daaaamit. Now we have to make a different story" Since Walters became co-lead writer the story of ME got worse and worse and he loved to retcon and change existing lore and events of ME(1) (no wonder Drew left) I mean: Walters and Hudson came up with the ending we know. And no matter if EC or not EC this story for the ending is BS. Sahem that two people wrote an ending for a story so many people worked on...
Personally I didn't mind the 'end' of ME3 because I took the entire game as the end of a trilogy. You jet all over the galaxy closing plot threads from the earlier games one by one until you bring that army to bear on the enemy above Earth. Sure, it could have been better executed, but all of ME3 itself was the ending. Having said that, I don't understand this need to change a property because someone leaked something. Tech specs for phones and stuff are leaked way in advance all the time, and it never lessens the demand for them at launch. In fact, it often boosts hype for the thing. I write fanfics and reviewers guess where I'm going to take the story all the time. Sure, loads of them get it wrong too, but they still come back and read that next chapter when I post it. Just because we might know the bones of a thing does not mean the execution won't still be worth our time to play out. Mass effect had already dispensed with the mystery aspects. We all knew that ME3 was the confrontation with the Reapers. Knowing the ending wouldn't have changed that. Because the ending of a battle is still a battle we would have had to fight. And it would have been just that little bit unique for everyone because we all played a little differently depending on our class and loadout and our preferred companions. Stick with your plans and release it anyway. Let your work speak for itself instead of rushing to alter something days out from launch. Especially if you work under EA. I would have gleefully played out that ending to ME3 knowing what it was in advance. Even more if I knew going in that it would surely lead to an ME4.
Or just avoid story spoilers. You can practically always find out what the ending of any game, film or book is in advance if you want. They're available almost as soon as it takes for the first people to finish. It's usually no problem to avoid if you don't go looking for it, unless someone blurts it out without warning, which is universally considered a dick move. It makes no sense at all to change an ending because of leaks, as the people who don't want to know the ending probably won't be clicking on articles titled "Mass Effect 3 Ending Revealed"
8:41 its not that forced stealth sections are bad its that instant fail on being spotter is pure cancer because it takes away players agency and beats them with a road block. If you want good stealth sections look at batman arkham servies he can get caught but the game doesnt fail, rather he gets shot until he dies or finds a hiding spot. The game tells the players they need to try harder if they want batman to stay alive, instead of reseting them for minor mistakes that will make a controller take flight.
I tried to play the remastered crash games and on the very first level, I tried to get 100% but there was a fork in the path so I had to clear one side and then backtrack to go to the other side, but because the jumping was tweaked so much on the first game, I could NOT get him to get back over a specific gap and I got so frustrated I just gave up. I'd rather play the originals again than have to fight with messed up controls
10. probably someone's left hand guard. 9. it has to be equal to the "switch" version or else release the 360 remastered to both "switch" and xbox systems. don't really care about the graphical bugs, but it's somewhat play better than perfect dark xbla version. 7. seems easy to me. on those stages, just jump onto the rope of the bridge and run forward. 6. i guess, just do something randomly. 5. no wonder why the game does a 180 when you go from stealth mission to boss fights. 1. kind of sucks when your projects gets cut towards the end.
ME was developed in 18 months; its a small miracle they managed to fix so many other problems with the game series, yet completely screw up one of the most crucial parts.
ok, the way she said "are" at 5:36, i do not know what effect they used on her voice for the bioshock section, but i just could not un hear the slight vibrato of hear voice. Either way it fits with the underwater context of the game.
I liked the MJ stealth sections in Spider-Man, nice change of pace and I love stealth games anyway. No one else on earth seemed to like them though. 🤷♂️
I thought that more people loved the MJ stealth sections. They really added a sense of hopelessness and made the player feel the adrenaline and panic of being alone and hunted down. These missions were fitting in the Spider-Man story line and were not random missions without a purpose.
The worst stealth missions that were included in modern games, were the Outlast like stealth missions in the rebooted Modern Warfare games. These particular stealth missions would have been so much better, if they weren't trying to emulate the stealth in the Outlast games.
Right?? People are literally crying out for a new stealth specific game like Splinter Cell. Make that game and stop shoe horning this tedious stuff into action games ffs
So instead of giving us a good ending, because of leaks that like 99% of people probably didn't pay attention to, they gave us garbage? Whoever had that idea should be banned from the industry.
I can think of one frustrating moment, and rather than it being in a game, it caused the cancellation of one: Phil Fish(sp?) got so fed up with critics on social media that he decided that he wouldn't finish making Fez 2.
What is it with video games and horrendous endings? Even in many of today's movies, the endings suck. They used to be handled so well, I mean look at MGS1 on PS1. It used to be a giant payoff. Nowadays, you get to the end and you can tell they didn't know what to do... how hard can it really be to throw some intelligent twists into things? If you're burnt out, get a third party to help with a fresh idea.
personally I don't mind forced stealth sections because I prefer it that feels like something spiderman would because spiderman is very intelligent he try to sneak around not have any unecery conflict. Stealth takedowns are the best in game mechanics.
2:48 it should have gotten a mafia definitive edition or resident evil 2 remake treatment where the game was built from the group up on the core ideas of the orginal.
Wow, the background music is also used by Triple Jump. I guess it means that all the gaming channels truly watch each other, mimic each other's topics and use the same music.
Pretty much goes without saying, 80% of bad video game moments, or bad games overall, come from the crunch put on to crank the final product out in time for marketing hypes, whether it be for Christmas, Black Friday, school holiday seasons, what have you. Deadlines put dead ends in video game quality.
I feel a lot of the complaining about the MJ sections in Spider-Man is a little overblown, I could understand if they were long & drawn out but every time you take control of her it’s literally like a five minute sequence
I understand that people get mad when deadlines aren't met, but I'd really rather they just get things right the first time. I'd have waited for Mass Effect to have been perfect. And had it, there would have been MORE Mass Effect. Rushing it was the wrong choice, and my heart is incomplete without FemShep.
Actually, I don't think that the five weeks produced that. I am pretty sure that he basically got told a weekend before the release he had to remake the game completely. For a weekend of work and being the only person working on the game? It can be seen as better than a large swathe of LJN titles.
I hate it when developers allow a leak to shift the entirety of a game's ending. Shifting the entire thing just to throw off any plot points ruined by leaks is just stupid. Hell, add a joke ending or something, but don't throw away a perfectly good ending just because of a leak.
People are not complaining about the correct parts of the Goldeneye port. The control scheme for the switch is almost unplayable. How hard would it have been to map the buttons to the normal shooter controls. The textures, sounds and fps are all authentic to the original game, only an idiot would expect them to be anything but dated. The controls however had to be remapped off the N64 remote and they chose the worst control scheme in history for the switch.
I would go as far as to say it was good, if a little underproduced. It gives you the choice you were building up to through the entire series; conquest, destruction, or assimilation
HSWWSH Seriously, as an 80's kid, my favorite 2600 games were Indiana Jones, Yar's Revenge (I have the cover tattooed on my arm) and I also played the hell out of ET. It wasn't until years later that I found they were all made by the same dude. For all the flak ET gets, it wasn't THAT bad as far as Atari 2600 games go. They just overestimated the sales figures. Drastically.
As good as his Spider-Man films were, there is one thing that I will never forgive Sam Raimi for, and that's establishing MJ as "just a damsel in distress" in the pop cultural collective consciousness. Because of that, most incarnations of the character that were written ever since have had this weird obession with "fixing her", which includes the 2018 video game. And they have always been terrible. The thing is, as any long time fan of the comic book character will tell you, MJ is as far from a damsel in distress as you can get with a non-powered human who's not a cop or a soldier. That's not to say she's never kidnapped or in danger, but you'd be shocked to see how rarely it happens*. And even when it happens, she never stays put. There are even times when she ends up saving herself, or even times when she ends up saving Spidey. And I'm not talking about recent stories, I'm talking about stories that go all the way back to the frigging 70s. But unfortunately, cinema has a far more powerful grip on the culture than comic books have, thus people can't shake the image that Sam Raimi popularized. * Well, when she's properly written, instead of being deliberatedly written out of character so the readers start hating her and the writers can make Spidey single again and pair him up with their preferred waifu of the week. Which has been a blight in Spider-Man stories on and off since at least the Clone Saga. And the whole reason why "One More Day" is a thing.
I don't get the hate for "forced stealth missions" with MJ (Miles had them, also) when you also had forced stealth missions with Spider-man. The difference was that you were on beams high up and "the floor is lava", whereas MJ and Miles was on the floor.
I always have to correct the record when younger people talk about E.T. on the 2600. A lot of people enjoyed it, including my brothers and I. We competed to see who could complete it fastest before speed running existed as a term.
The other thing to point out is that it wasn’t the cause of the crash of 82, crappy games were. There wasn’t enough solid game releases anymore, especially on the 2600 which had the most marketshare. Once consumers noticed that they stopped buying cartridges and it caused a collapse.
A "normies aren't powerless" trope should be in all superhero games. I'd say the MJ and Miles sections were jarring because the trope had never existed. No superhero game had ever considered the NORMIE side. Maybe somebody should develop (and HYPE) a Luke Cage game to make "normies aren't powerless" a thing.
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Remake GoldenEye. Fans think it isn't as good as they remember with audio glitches and low frame rate. I remember playing on campus and the game would randomly freeze in four player matches, controller input would sometimes glitch. Audio still popped. Maybe, just maybe, it's really nowhere near as you think it was as you worship it.
I take issue when anyone makes the claim that “no one liked” the ET game. Not only do I still have my Atari 2600 but also ET. I loved it as a kid and still do today. Raiders of the Lost Ark was a far more difficult game to solve than ET ever was.
Even then I didn’t care for ET but I loved Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, it was difficult but it gave 13 year old me a great sense of accomplishment when I solved it without any hints.
I remember seeing a while ago that someone patched ET so that he only collided with holes on the bottom two lines of his sprite, instead of the entire sprite, and it made the game feel so much better and less arbitrary. I only have hazy memories of playing it once as a kid, I had a 5200, so I can't say much, but I remember having no idea what I was doing or what was happening, and constantly falling into holes and having a lot of trouble getting back out.
the Mass Effect 3 ending section just gives me even more reason to hate leakers. even if they're credible, their leaks ultimately ruin what could've been good things
"There is no place in modern gaming for stealth"... I truly hope you are dead wrong on this one, Jess, otherwise I would either be a very unhappy gamer or stop playing videogames altogether....
the stealth sections in marvel spiderman it sounded like a shitty excuse, especially when miles parts is exactly the same as they just switched MJ with miles and both stealth sections are very Very outdated as if they came from an early low budget ps2 game, even freaking MGS 1 on the ps1 had a super advanced stealth mechanics in comparison.
The problem with Goldeneye is that people remember it being far far better than it actually was. People were always going to be disappointed with a rerelease
Exactly! It was amazing at the time but a total turd by today's standards. I was blown away the very first time I played Tekken on the PS1 but wouldn't have it now if it was free. Nostalgia is a hell of a warped thing.
Last time I played it was on an emulator, and it played pretty much like I remembered and expected. Old games can still be enjoyed as long as we remember they’re not going to play like anything that’s been recently released.
The most hilarious part of BioShock is when they take all your guns except the wrench, like I hadn't been using the wrench almost exclusively anyway. It's the best weapon in the game.
I have some pipe wrenches. They have some real weight to them.
The Little Sister savior hand image still warms my heart to this day.
'Games ruined by leaks' could have it's own top 10
that reminds me of a ruined comic book: the "armageddon 2001" miniseries.
part of the ending leaked, so they hastily made a different ending that made NO sense.
I don't get it. "The ending has been leaked, so instead of that good ending we're making a sh*tty one instead."
@@tubensalat1453 Yeah, I didn't get that one either.
@@tubensalat1453 essentially “the major plot points has been spoiled, we need to change them so we can keep people on their toes” games like those live off of you playing by ear. If you know what’s going to happen it will effect the way you approach the game which will remove some of that engagement with a game centered around making choices.
@@Broomer52 OK, but I mostly blame people who look up spoilers, so my sympathy with them is very limited and they shouldn't cause a game to be worse than it could've been.
Vas' death wasn't what the problem was it's the fact that they used the "hidden bad guy" trope the thing is they introduced what's his name horribly, the story didn't hide hints of him being there, he wasn't given the same personal connection Vas had the only thing this dude had was a big army which guess what Vas had that too.
This!!
Yeah like don't get me wrong I wasn't fine with it being more or less a QTE. But it was tolerable and wasn't a problem if again what's his name wasn't so forgettable. It's like if the Dark Knight switched up Heath Ledger with someone stupid like Jared Leto to finish up Joker's parts in that movie who wouldn't feel annoyed.
Yeah I agree Vaas is the memorable one out of all the "bad guys" in FarCry3. Hoyt is pretty much very forgettable standing in 3rd IMO with Vass 1st and Buck 2nd.
I still play it now on PC (even though it seems to crash more than Skyrim does) and hearing Vaas' lines about how his sister forces him into making a choice "them or me" only to find she does the same thing to us after we rescue all our remaining friends.
FarCry3 feels like it ends after we kill Vaas & the rest of the game is tacked on to give it longer playtime.
Regarding the Mary Jane thing, here's a note to all devs lol - No one wants sections like that, just don't do them. Not wanting MJ to be a damsel in distress is all well and good, MJ is a badass for sure, but make her a badass in a cutscene.
The action was already plenty broken up, finding collectables and stuff is more than enough variation lol
Eh, the idea of being a reporter and sneaking around getting information was fine, for me personally. The sections were not that long overall and we got back to being Spider pretty quick. However, once we got to the train station, then yeah, I was pretty done with it.
I guess today's generation doesn't have the patience or brain power to complete stealth missions now, I mean look what they did to the AC games, sad that strategy is being favored over hack and slash
@@TomBongJovi Lol okay. One, pretty sure I'm older than you and two, oh yeah you're so smart cause you can wait for someone to turn around. People like you are so pathetic, please do the world a favor and never open your worthless fucking mouth again. Elitist cause you can play a stealth game, and considering the original ACs stealth games over something good like thief or splinter cell. Fucking pathetic, stupid, worthless stain you are, please stop wasting my oxygen.
Forced stealth sections in games can be a good thing if they’re done well. Mech assault 2 did a good job of it because it gave you a tense situation where you had no way to directly fight back until you could find a vacant mech, and in the meantime you have to either sneak around them, slowly dwindle them down with explosives, or topple a building to take out a mech in one go. It was a nice change of pace. Also these sections weren’t dragged out, and didn’t span entire levels. There was only 2 or 3 mandatory stealth sections and they were only small sections in levels if I remember correctly. Other than that the game only recommended stealth in some areas, and did not force your hand in it outside of the 2-3 areas.
8:58. See, I always imagined the original ME3 ending as making a kind of sense...that the Reapers were such an enormous, overpowering threat that all our little choices that we thought were so important just meant nothing in the face of an enemy so damn big. And so in the end we have no choice....the threat of the Reapers is so big that we just have no choice in confronting it, but Sheppard tried to convince themselves otherwise.
That having been said, the expanded ending is absolutely better, no question.
Either this or the Reaper winning. I know, this also would have made a pretty big outrage, but at least it would not make the Reaper look so weak and stupid.
I love the idea from Relays being destroyed... okay, in the end this is what we get in the red ending XD
Jess might be my favorite presenter behind Jules. I’m starting to enjoy and appreciate her presenting skills a lot more every day.
Jess and Jules are what's keeping me around.
Tailford and Josh have become unbearable lately
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Fr man Jess and Jules keep me going.
For me Jess, Jules und Psy are the trifecta of Whatculture.
The guys voiceovers are unbearable - I can't watch.
When I see Jules on a video I 100% skip it, won't even click. The guy is creepy AF especially with his cringe ass endings. I really wish he would stop being in videos all together so I can actually watch them...
Actually silent hill 2 didn't need the fog, the fog was a result of the original silent hill needing to mask the rendering, it went over so well that they made it a staple of the series, silent hill 2 was on the ps2 which had enough power to render just fine but the fog added atmosphere and mystery so they kept it
I mean, no, that ending to Mass Effect 3 would have been even more loathed, as seen by the fact that part of the expanded endings needed to make it clear that the relays _weren't_ destroyed and the races _weren't_ cut off from each other because people hated the implication that was what had happened in the original version of the ending so much.
The rumored other ending that people were upset about not getting was the one where something something dark matter. (I don't remember the details too much since I didn't find 'It was brought up during Tali's recruitment mission!' to actually be any more meaningfully foreshadowing than the BS we actually got.)
We didn't want MJ to be a damsel in distress, so we made her part of the game really annoying. That way players wanted her dead so they never have to play her sections again. Developers say this a lot. We wanted to show what it would be like to not have powers in a world of super heroes. It sucks. Everyone wants super powers. No one wants to be ordinary in a world of heroes.
Dude, have you never heard of Halo 3 ODST? You're not some super soldier in the game, you're just a normal human.
@@BaxterAndLunala Orbital Drop Shock Troopers were still some of the baddest motherfuckers outside of the Spartans. I don't feel like your comparison holds up well.
@@BaxterAndLunala you mean an example of making a nkn-ppwerd charcter(s) actually fun & not tedious? Haha that proves his point.
@@green49285 No it doesn't, because being an ODST is much more fun than being a Spartan. Plus, both Halo 2 and 3 were a slog compared to ODST in the fact the gameplay felt rather boring. Whereas both had annoying ways for enemies to kill you plus a lot of room for error, ODST made you feel like playing Call of Duty on steroids with vehicles, in fast paced action, the need to actively take cover, and no room for error. Plus, the stealth sections were one of the best parts of the game. You weren't some absolute tank that could punch a hole in concrete, you were a normal soldier, that, while special forces, would still fall to aliens easily.
@@BaxterAndLunala regardless an ODST is not an “ordinary human” an ODST is still a highly trained solider. Stop reaching
Wait … the person in charge of creating the boss fights for deus ex didn’t know what the game was even going to be, so he just winged it and turned in the final product, possibly with absolutely no communication. How does that happen. Like which side thought that was a good idea, the team making boss fights for a game they know nothing about or the game developers that asked a 3rd party team to create the boss fights with absolutely nothing to go on.
I finally recently played the Spider-man game & had no issues with the Stealth sections. Miles is has them too, not just MJ. Though I did enjoy MJs more when she had the stun gun. The part with Miles & Rhino was what I disliked due to the fact there are parts where it is unclear where to go, leading to several stompings.
Same, I didn't mind MJ's parts, partly because I knew they were coming since I got it on Steam, but Miles running from Rino had me in a few spots cause I had no clue where I was going. Also, some of those parts with MJ kept the story moving forward and gave a unique POV. Maybe they did overstay their welcome near the end, but we came back to Spider Man fairly quickly
For me the stealth sections were so annoying that I started using a trainer to make the enemies not see MJ or Miles so I could just walk straight to the goal.
Leaks "ruining" games is such a dumb thing to me.
Like...yeah...it sucks it got leaked and there are bound to be people who got spoiled against their will but I don't get why you'd make the decision to completely dump and scramble for a brand new story rather than just go "Well that sucks, guys, be careful with your online reading because assholes are spoiling the ending". A spoiled but great ending seems like it would be much better received than a unspoiled turd sandwich...
"15 years after its initial release."
Jess, the original N64 version was released in 1995, the one you were talking about was Goldeneye Reloaded on the Wii, which was released in 2010, then released a year later on PS3 and Xbox 360, while the port of the original was released just two months ago, at the time of this comment's posting.
She just reads these. Theres a team of writers usually.
I like how you try to correct her and you still got the release date wrong lol. The movie came out in 1995, the game came out two years later in 1997. The N64 wasn’t even out yet in 1995.
@tomb thrower imagine googling things just to make sure you can correct someone trying to correct someone. That's the real lol moment.
@@Lake_be off two years vs being off 25 years. I don’t know which is better
@@daddydooful I think correcting someone and still being wrong is worse
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You know the theme I kept hearing? "Not enough time." Game after game was damaged, even ruined, because they didn't get the time they needed to do it right. Just imagine how much studios would make if they allowed developers the time they needed to make a game a fully finished product. CyberPunk 2077 has managed to be a financial success (I think), but if they had spent the time to finish it, it might have shattered records. We might have gotten fans demanding Mass Effect 4. Deus Ex might have seen a massive resurgence. On and on it goes. But greed and impatience cost them those chances. Ironic since they'd have gotten what they wanted and more, had they just taken the time to do it right.
honestly the big konami decision was pretty much the stupidest thing they ever did, losing cash cows for mobile duds
Unfortunately, they're doing pretty well in the mobile and pachinko sector, despite losing Kojima they're still making a LOT of money.
Whatculture should start breaking up their videos into searchable sections
I thought goldeneye didn't have any issues, didn't bother with multiplayer and loved using the Xbox controller
Same, I think most of the people that loved the original still loved the xbox release. I don't care about not having online multiplayer either.
@@lucasspeirs same here too. I love the Xbox port, especially with how easy it is to customize the controls to a very comfortable dual stick setup. Not a multiplayer guy in general and I've never understood the whining about 30FPS ( I've legit never even noticed a difference in framerate unless it's so bugged out & laggy it's like a Windows photo viewer slideshow on Windows 98 ).
Alot of the time cutscene are in fact loading screens (ps4 gen, possibly ps3 gen) and later. You'll know that it's a disguised loading screen if it's "unskipable". It's easy to play a scene that allready exists (DVD disk) and harder to fully load an interactive environment.
The thing that got me about Mary Jane's stealth missions was the weak distraction mechanic they gave her. Peter had the superpowers to help him. Miles had the phone app that let him make electronics malfunction. Pretty cool gimmick for an unpowered character. But Mary Jane had to rely on risky environmental junk like knocking toolboxes over. If we could have done something like blinding guards with her camera flash, then cool. But what they did was a little too realism over fun.
Wait they had a better ending for mass effect 3 and didn’t go with it? Grrrrr 🤬
MJ in Marvel's Spider-Man has to be my #1 hated fictional character of all time.
Right up there with Jar Jar Binks and Gollum (Smeagal)
Here : modern games don't need stealth missions
RE4 remake :cool, you can stealth with only knife!
BioShock is about 98% perfection, just that last boss fight…
I like the explanation of why in just cause 1 last mission is so frustrating and seems like kind of a mess. "We did not know what we were doing" was the explanation developers gave.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution “step back into the shoes of Adam Jensen”. Huh? You played as JC Denton in the original Deus Ex. HR is a prequel set 25 years before the events of the original Deus Ex.
I didn’t realize the MJ missions sucked until I went on the Internet
Tbh i enjoyed stealth missions in spiderman 🤷♂️ guess its not for everyone
same here, I didn't mind it at all
Same. I don't understand what all the fuss was about; they're easy, short and do give you a little break in the action.
Nah it was terrible when even the older Spider-Man games had more gameplay with less technology
I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I always had the feeling those "leaks" were done in purpose, so Walters and Hudson could be like "Ah, darn! Our great story... daaaamit. Now we have to make a different story"
Since Walters became co-lead writer the story of ME got worse and worse and he loved to retcon and change existing lore and events of ME(1) (no wonder Drew left)
I mean: Walters and Hudson came up with the ending we know. And no matter if EC or not EC this story for the ending is BS. Sahem that two people wrote an ending for a story so many people worked on...
Personally I didn't mind the 'end' of ME3 because I took the entire game as the end of a trilogy. You jet all over the galaxy closing plot threads from the earlier games one by one until you bring that army to bear on the enemy above Earth. Sure, it could have been better executed, but all of ME3 itself was the ending.
Having said that, I don't understand this need to change a property because someone leaked something. Tech specs for phones and stuff are leaked way in advance all the time, and it never lessens the demand for them at launch. In fact, it often boosts hype for the thing. I write fanfics and reviewers guess where I'm going to take the story all the time. Sure, loads of them get it wrong too, but they still come back and read that next chapter when I post it. Just because we might know the bones of a thing does not mean the execution won't still be worth our time to play out.
Mass effect had already dispensed with the mystery aspects. We all knew that ME3 was the confrontation with the Reapers. Knowing the ending wouldn't have changed that. Because the ending of a battle is still a battle we would have had to fight. And it would have been just that little bit unique for everyone because we all played a little differently depending on our class and loadout and our preferred companions.
Stick with your plans and release it anyway. Let your work speak for itself instead of rushing to alter something days out from launch. Especially if you work under EA. I would have gleefully played out that ending to ME3 knowing what it was in advance. Even more if I knew going in that it would surely lead to an ME4.
Or just avoid story spoilers. You can practically always find out what the ending of any game, film or book is in advance if you want. They're available almost as soon as it takes for the first people to finish. It's usually no problem to avoid if you don't go looking for it, unless someone blurts it out without warning, which is universally considered a dick move. It makes no sense at all to change an ending because of leaks, as the people who don't want to know the ending probably won't be clicking on articles titled "Mass Effect 3 Ending Revealed"
8:41 its not that forced stealth sections are bad its that instant fail on being spotter is pure cancer because it takes away players agency and beats them with a road block. If you want good stealth sections look at batman arkham servies he can get caught but the game doesnt fail, rather he gets shot until he dies or finds a hiding spot. The game tells the players they need to try harder if they want batman to stay alive, instead of reseting them for minor mistakes that will make a controller take flight.
I tried to play the remastered crash games and on the very first level, I tried to get 100% but there was a fork in the path so I had to clear one side and then backtrack to go to the other side, but because the jumping was tweaked so much on the first game, I could NOT get him to get back over a specific gap and I got so frustrated I just gave up. I'd rather play the originals again than have to fight with messed up controls
10. probably someone's left hand guard.
9. it has to be equal to the "switch" version or else release the 360 remastered to both "switch" and xbox systems. don't really care about the graphical bugs, but it's somewhat play better than perfect dark xbla version.
7. seems easy to me. on those stages, just jump onto the rope of the bridge and run forward.
6. i guess, just do something randomly.
5. no wonder why the game does a 180 when you go from stealth mission to boss fights.
1. kind of sucks when your projects gets cut towards the end.
We didn't step "back" into Jensen's shoes, that was his first game
ME was developed in 18 months; its a small miracle they managed to fix so many other problems with the game series, yet completely screw up one of the most crucial parts.
Honestly never knew drew karpyshyn wrote mass effect m, awesome author he wrote the Darth Bane books. Fantastic author
"Darth Babe" eh? I missed that knock-off.
@@NFITC1 lmao spell check, bane*
ok, the way she said "are" at 5:36, i do not know what effect they used on her voice for the bioshock section, but i just could not un hear the slight vibrato of hear voice. Either way it fits with the underwater context of the game.
I liked the MJ stealth sections in Spider-Man, nice change of pace and I love stealth games anyway. No one else on earth seemed to like them though. 🤷♂️
I thought that more people loved the MJ stealth sections. They really added a sense of hopelessness and made the player feel the adrenaline and panic of being alone and hunted down. These missions were fitting in the Spider-Man story line and were not random missions without a purpose.
The worst stealth missions that were included in modern games, were the Outlast like stealth missions in the rebooted Modern Warfare games. These particular stealth missions would have been so much better, if they weren't trying to emulate the stealth in the Outlast games.
I liked the mj stealth missions
That's wild Konami did their employees like that! Disgusting behavior.
Forced Stealth Missions definitely need to be phased out and developers need to learn that. NOTHING will change my mind on that.
Right?? People are literally crying out for a new stealth specific game like Splinter Cell. Make that game and stop shoe horning this tedious stuff into action games ffs
So instead of giving us a good ending, because of leaks that like 99% of people probably didn't pay attention to, they gave us garbage? Whoever had that idea should be banned from the industry.
12:12 from dev to janitor 🤯
I can think of one frustrating moment, and rather than it being in a game, it caused the cancellation of one: Phil Fish(sp?) got so fed up with critics on social media that he decided that he wouldn't finish making Fez 2.
What is it with video games and horrendous endings? Even in many of today's movies, the endings suck. They used to be handled so well, I mean look at MGS1 on PS1. It used to be a giant payoff. Nowadays, you get to the end and you can tell they didn't know what to do... how hard can it really be to throw some intelligent twists into things? If you're burnt out, get a third party to help with a fresh idea.
The crash of 83 was inevitable. a more polished ET game wouldn't have done anything more than stall the crash to maybe a few months or year more.
far cry 3 has more creativity than ubisoft the whole ps4 generation
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That’s a Far Cry from the truth…..😂
I personally think new dawn is the best far cry game.
nah
So here's where the cirlcejerk is!
personally I don't mind forced stealth sections because I prefer it that feels like something spiderman would because spiderman is very intelligent he try to sneak around not have any unecery conflict. Stealth takedowns are the best in game mechanics.
Man those MJ missions were so bad lol
Of all the ways to show her off as a capable character they chose.....that? 😆 man I was so pissed.
Hiw is taking one ending and then making 2 more streamlining? You described the original destruction (red) ending
2:48 it should have gotten a mafia definitive edition or resident evil 2 remake treatment where the game was built from the group up on the core ideas of the orginal.
Wow, the background music is also used by Triple Jump. I guess it means that all the gaming channels truly watch each other, mimic each other's topics and use the same music.
Pretty much goes without saying, 80% of bad video game moments, or bad games overall, come from the crunch put on to crank the final product out in time for marketing hypes, whether it be for Christmas, Black Friday, school holiday seasons, what have you. Deadlines put dead ends in video game quality.
The funny thing is, Spielberg wanted E.T. to be a pac-man clone LOL!
Spider-Man any Gwen or Miles portion 😭 on a second play through i usually turn it off for a few days 😭
Gwen wasn’t in the game, that was MJ
Can we please make an effort to get goldeneye on playstation?? i wanna see more games like phychonaunts 2 with the Xbox studio's logo on playstation.
I feel a lot of the complaining about the MJ sections in Spider-Man is a little overblown, I could understand if they were long & drawn out but every time you take control of her it’s literally like a five minute sequence
I understand that people get mad when deadlines aren't met, but I'd really rather they just get things right the first time. I'd have waited for Mass Effect to have been perfect. And had it, there would have been MORE Mass Effect. Rushing it was the wrong choice, and my heart is incomplete without FemShep.
Actually, I don't think that the five weeks produced that. I am pretty sure that he basically got told a weekend before the release he had to remake the game completely. For a weekend of work and being the only person working on the game? It can be seen as better than a large swathe of LJN titles.
I hate it when developers allow a leak to shift the entirety of a game's ending. Shifting the entire thing just to throw off any plot points ruined by leaks is just stupid. Hell, add a joke ending or something, but don't throw away a perfectly good ending just because of a leak.
People are not complaining about the correct parts of the Goldeneye port. The control scheme for the switch is almost unplayable. How hard would it have been to map the buttons to the normal shooter controls. The textures, sounds and fps are all authentic to the original game, only an idiot would expect them to be anything but dated. The controls however had to be remapped off the N64 remote and they chose the worst control scheme in history for the switch.
Volcanically hot take: Bioshock wouldn't be famous if it wasn't for the "Would You Kindly" twist.
Idk. I didn't mind the ME3 ending.
I would go as far as to say it was good, if a little underproduced. It gives you the choice you were building up to through the entire series; conquest, destruction, or assimilation
HSWWSH Seriously, as an 80's kid, my favorite 2600 games were Indiana Jones, Yar's Revenge (I have the cover tattooed on my arm) and I also played the hell out of ET. It wasn't until years later that I found they were all made by the same dude. For all the flak ET gets, it wasn't THAT bad as far as Atari 2600 games go. They just overestimated the sales figures. Drastically.
As good as his Spider-Man films were, there is one thing that I will never forgive Sam Raimi for, and that's establishing MJ as "just a damsel in distress" in the pop cultural collective consciousness. Because of that, most incarnations of the character that were written ever since have had this weird obession with "fixing her", which includes the 2018 video game. And they have always been terrible.
The thing is, as any long time fan of the comic book character will tell you, MJ is as far from a damsel in distress as you can get with a non-powered human who's not a cop or a soldier. That's not to say she's never kidnapped or in danger, but you'd be shocked to see how rarely it happens*. And even when it happens, she never stays put. There are even times when she ends up saving herself, or even times when she ends up saving Spidey. And I'm not talking about recent stories, I'm talking about stories that go all the way back to the frigging 70s.
But unfortunately, cinema has a far more powerful grip on the culture than comic books have, thus people can't shake the image that Sam Raimi popularized.
* Well, when she's properly written, instead of being deliberatedly written out of character so the readers start hating her and the writers can make Spidey single again and pair him up with their preferred waifu of the week. Which has been a blight in Spider-Man stories on and off since at least the Clone Saga. And the whole reason why "One More Day" is a thing.
I don't get the hate for "forced stealth missions" with MJ (Miles had them, also) when you also had forced stealth missions with Spider-man. The difference was that you were on beams high up and "the floor is lava", whereas MJ and Miles was on the floor.
I enjoyed mj sections but i do we sh she was full city playable maybe even had her own super powers at some point
Your accent makes reaper sound completely different lol
I always have to correct the record when younger people talk about E.T. on the 2600. A lot of people enjoyed it, including my brothers and I. We competed to see who could complete it fastest before speed running existed as a term.
The other thing to point out is that it wasn’t the cause of the crash of 82, crappy games were. There wasn’t enough solid game releases anymore, especially on the 2600 which had the most marketshare. Once consumers noticed that they stopped buying cartridges and it caused a collapse.
A "normies aren't powerless" trope should be in all superhero games. I'd say the MJ and Miles sections were jarring because the trope had never existed. No superhero game had ever considered the NORMIE side. Maybe somebody should develop (and HYPE) a Luke Cage game to make "normies aren't powerless" a thing.
2:27 That's why some remakes need to be built from the ground up.
Can't you just tight rope your way through High Road?
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"There's no reason for stealth in modern games". Um what?
She said “there’s no place for *forced* stealth sections in modern games”
From good intents to lacking better ideas and time to Infinite Wisdom, this list.
Could make an entire new list based on that last point. Mobile games have corroded the industry and the quality of many formerly great franchises
The first rule of MGS fan is we don't talk bout the cut off ending of MGSV
Goldeneye released on Xbox and switch 26 years after the original not 15 years.
Them puzzle challenges on Banjo Tooie. I put the code in to skip them.
What Mass Effect 's original ending was changed!?! You don't say!
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Remake GoldenEye. Fans think it isn't as good as they remember with audio glitches and low frame rate. I remember playing on campus and the game would randomly freeze in four player matches, controller input would sometimes glitch. Audio still popped. Maybe, just maybe, it's really nowhere near as you think it was as you worship it.
The annoying stealth sections in Modern Warfare 2 are incredibly boring.
I take issue when anyone makes the claim that “no one liked” the ET game. Not only do I still have my Atari 2600 but also ET. I loved it as a kid and still do today. Raiders of the Lost Ark was a far more difficult game to solve than ET ever was.
Even then I didn’t care for ET but I loved Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, it was difficult but it gave 13 year old me a great sense of accomplishment when I solved it without any hints.
I remember seeing a while ago that someone patched ET so that he only collided with holes on the bottom two lines of his sprite, instead of the entire sprite, and it made the game feel so much better and less arbitrary. I only have hazy memories of playing it once as a kid, I had a 5200, so I can't say much, but I remember having no idea what I was doing or what was happening, and constantly falling into holes and having a lot of trouble getting back out.
the Mass Effect 3 ending section just gives me even more reason to hate leakers. even if they're credible, their leaks ultimately ruin what could've been good things
Goldeneye came out in 1997, 26 years after it’s initial release. 🤓
"There is no place in modern gaming for stealth"... I truly hope you are dead wrong on this one, Jess, otherwise I would either be a very unhappy gamer or stop playing videogames altogether....
I feel like Jess is channeling Moira-Rose in this list.
Ironically enough, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, my favorite game of all time probably, feels and indeed appears to be unfinished, ending on a cliffhanger
the stealth sections in marvel spiderman it sounded like a shitty excuse, especially when miles parts is exactly the same as they just switched MJ with miles and both stealth sections are very Very outdated as if they came from an early low budget ps2 game, even freaking MGS 1 on the ps1 had a super advanced stealth mechanics in comparison.
Konami deserves every piece of bad publicity, disgusting corporation
Anybody else love ET on the 2600 or am I the only one??
1:57 15 years? more like 25.
The worst part of MGSV was the parasite unit soldiers. Other than them it still turned out to be a pretty solid stealth game
They were annoying - I dreaded them
Explain when they crash
What's with all the first person games?
The problem with Goldeneye is that people remember it being far far better than it actually was. People were always going to be disappointed with a rerelease
Exactly! It was amazing at the time but a total turd by today's standards. I was blown away the very first time I played Tekken on the PS1 but wouldn't have it now if it was free. Nostalgia is a hell of a warped thing.
Last time I played it was on an emulator, and it played pretty much like I remembered and expected. Old games can still be enjoyed as long as we remember they’re not going to play like anything that’s been recently released.
I love my retro games but without nostalgia, a lot of them aren't playable.
also they made Mary Jane annoying hopefully they learn their lesson in the second game
The MJ missions were just padding
Yeah guys E.T right? right guys?? thats definitely relevant right guys??
So we're dragging the MJ stealth sections, but not the Miles ones? Seems like a very cool, not at all sexist, thing to do...
Goes to show deadlines screw everything over.