I don't understand why that teacher would call her father to try to get him to get her help for her depression after Brenda told her the abuse he does to her. I don't know if it's just me, but after hearing about the abuse I wouldn't expect him to care for her. I would have expected the teacher to help her, not call her abusive father.
@@000-i9p It is actually mandatory that teachers report to authorities any time there's suspected abuse-- if a child is being abused and told the teacher, and the teacher just reached out to the parent, that's illegal & they could lose their job easily. It's been like this for a while so I can see mandatory reporting being not enforced that long ago as much as I can see it there-- there may be a chance that she didn't speak on s/a, or minimised the abuse she was experiencing at home which is also so common with traumatised kids (tho mandatory reporters don't need the kid to say anything to report)
thank you for all that you do!! one of my teachers said something similar to us after an active shooter drill in school. it made me feel a little more safe in my school. my school district was also really strict bc there was a shooting in the 90s at one of the schools. i always appreciated that they took an extra step to protect the students. i remember if i was late i had to use an intercom outside the school and show my ID to be let in, it was annoying at the time, but i appreciate it so looking back.
Exactly what type of parent would do that? A gun? Your child is calling out for help instead of getting her the psychiatric treatment she needed he puts a dangerous weapon in her hand. WTH? He should have been charged with some type of crime. If he wouldn't have gotten her that gun a lot of innocent people would still be alive. I'm not trying to excuse her actions but the father drop the ball big time!!
@@HiMynamesNece i do think that the adults in her life definitely failed her but i can't let that justify her actions but then again she was 16 so this one is just hard to watch cause the shooting was definitely preventable.
LITERALLY THO Myself and a friend went to our school’s social worker for help for our friend who was struggling with depression. (We had no other options she wouldn’t get help and she was suicidal). We told them that our friend got verbally abused and when it came to things like her health didn’t believe anything was wrong and what did the counselor do??? Call…her…mom…and what did her mom do!!? Yell at my friend!!! Like ik u have to report that stuff but calling the person who is directly causing the problem?! C’MON
Actually I went to my guidance counselor once saying I wanted to well... Off myself, and she just said I can't do anything unless I tell your mom, and dismissed me. After I told her my mom was verbally abusing me. And a teacher I told straight up called my mom to say I was bringing my mental issues to the classroom too much, which didn't help. I did have one teacher that didn't snitch on me but the fact that I lost 2/3 times is... Shitty. And it's really depressing that it's been 50 years and it hasn't improved any.
The dad didn't want to get hed help because he didn't want her telling anyone about the sexual abuse. Hands down. I doubt if was solely because of the mind set that time. It was self preservation.
If you study the history of this case she brought the emotional abuse to her teachers attention. She didn't claim anything about sexual abuse until a parole hearing in the 90s. Not a word. The board itself decided that she was trying to garner sympathy from them and had made up the sexual abuse. You can decide for yourself, but the official view is that it never happened.
@@crimson6952 certainly not have shot at kids and staff at a school. This isn’t really a “don’t judge somebody unless you’ve walked a mile in their shoes” type of situation.
@@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe if your mind so limited that you can't find empathy for her, how do you expect to prevent shit like this from happening again? We should absolutely try to figure out and understand why this happened.
I asked my dad for therapy when I was 18 because I was depressed and passively suicidal. He literally laughed and said no, we don't do things like that. I haven't spoken to him in three years. (Didn't shoot anyone, though.)
@@boldbrash7599 Yeah..my dad is like that too, instead of taking me to therapy because im depressed; my grades are falling off exam by exam he instead insists on making me take more courses so i can learn better, bud i dont have the motivation to do shit hiring private tutors wont fucking help.
@@Unreachableparadise That really is so sad to hear. Parents really think that piling more stuff on them is gonna help like it doesn’t do the opposite. it’s sad how some parents really just don’t care for their kids mental/emotional health.
The principle's wife hasn't washed his clothes or changed anything in the house since he was killed 40 years ago. That is absolutely heartbreaking I feel so sorry for her. Just a terrible story.
The fact that it took her until she was 50 years old to realize she’s done anything wrong is the reason why she should not be let out on parole. She was very young when she committed the shooting, she could have been rehabilitated, but it took her 40+ years to understand what she did was very wrong. That in my opinion is why she should stay in prison
Lol she’s not at all sorry nor does she understand it was wrong. She understands she should feel bad. She tried to act how she felt. She tried to lie that it was drugs. She tried to claim her shit dad pushed her too. She played every card in the book before she realized the only thing left was sayin “sorry”.
@@oppaloopa3698 i can’t fully blame her tho, cause of the damage to her frontal lobe. it might’ve also been bc of her father’s abuse (maybe not, idk) but she still shouldn’t be let out
@@cassidyyy9589 She’s way too calculating tho. Like yea she did have FLD but that doesn’t completely destroy your ability to know right from wrong AND control your actions unless it’s very serious. She didn’t have a history of the kind of behavioral issues that would indicate the kind of damage necessary to not make informed decisions. She struggled with it but boohoo. Plenty of folks struggle with plenty of things. Plenty are abused even worse than she claimed to be. They don’t all choose to murder children. She’s a liar and a manipulator. She knew what strings to play to get folks to pity her and it’s really sad to see that it apparently didn’t fail with a good many. At least in the comments.
@@oppaloopa3698 well of course. idk how severe her fld was, but her inability to know right from wrong or at least not do those wrongs makes her incrediably dangerous and i wouldn’t want her roaming freely as if she is innocent. but, i can somewhat nderstand what she’s going through, and thats what i mean. i usually try to understand the criminals to some extent because usually there’s a reason or motive behind their actions. doesn’t justify her actions, just allows me to understand her a little more
@forest rin he's saying that it's not an excuse to let her free. She has white woman privilege and she used it, but she's insane, she shouldn't be free.
Being as severely depressed and suicidal as she was, you kind of get this disregard for your own life and at that point just don't care what happens to you or anyone else. Apathy is a huge part of depression that people ignore.
Yes the crime 100% sounds like su*cide by cop. “I’m just gonna come out sh00ting” and she was already su*cidal ! I’m not excusing her actions but she went through a lot during her developmental stages she was indeed temporarily insane. Edit: I just got to the part of the video where she admits this.
idk if this was her reasoning though because not caring about yourself or others and what happens to them naturally butttt loading a gun and obviously some premeditated ideation’s of mass murder is very different from not caring. actually it shows she did care she just wanted everyone to care and hurt as much as her.
@@michaela3979 yeahhh im pretty sure most kids in america can say the same. my parents would never give me a gun after telling them ive been trying to kill myself.
How DARE her father act emotional during her sentence. Maybe all of this could've been prevented if he had been a fucking decent person to his fucking daughter. His treatment of Brenda doesn't justify what she did at ALL, but it makes me so angry that Brenda's father got off basically scot-free for something that he was, in a way, responsible for.
Periodddd, my boyfriend has schizophrenia and yes, every once in a while he hears voices, but it’s pretty rare. It just morphs his personality sometimes, people should do more research before talking about mental disorders because u really learn a lot. So glad u mentioned it, love u queen. Btw I also wanna say, I’m the same age as u and the fact that ur doing all of this on ur own and making videos on the internet, like…I’m so awed by you. I could never do all the things you do, your videos are so informative, researched, and your makeup is always poppin. Like just know ur a fucking queen and icon and we don’t deserve u girl 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Bc their are multiple forms of schizophrenia. Schizoaffective disorder is usually the type that hears voices when they’re struggling with mental health. Paranoid schizophrenia is the most common form of schizophrenia & they do not hear voices or hallucinate. That’s a very rare form of schizophrenia my uncle had his entire life.
Yeah but also your boyfriend is treated... Untreathed schizophrenia can lead to this kind of stuff.. Uncured depression leads to psychosis which leads to schizophrenia and it has many many forms. I think maybe she had psychosis which was also untreated and that is what makes it dangerous.
@@Sad.pookie ofcourse pills can cause psychosis, also drugs can. This was just one example of how it occurs and it happened to this girl sadly. There are many.
I’m a psychology/counseling masters student and we learn that a lot of these cases could be avoided if adults stepped up and became positive influences in kids life. Kids look up to adults and learn right from wrong and life lessons from these adults. If these positive influences are removed then these kids experiences pile on such as bad home life, bad school experience, no friends, etc. This then results in depression and other mental illnesses. This then results the development of these actions.
Very nicely said but I'm hoping one doesn't need to be a "psychology/counseling masters student" to know this. Seems like regular common sense ya know?
Yes but no, not all kids coming from abusing household turn out mass shooter or serial killer. The phrase "hurt people hurt people" is some strong BS because it diminish the importance of personnal traits that push people towards ways of coping with their abuse.
@@aduzzz3322 how many people come from a loving and healthy household ? For real, im sure not a lot and certainly not a majority, still not event a minority of people aren't actively trying to kill others.
As a violent crime survivor, I would want everyone to know my story if I had died. I would be fine with a movie or documentary about my attacker, even if he was played by an attractive actor, because I would still be an integral part of the story. The problem isn't the media itself, but the fancams and fandom culture as a whole celebrating these killers and completely removing us from our stories.
@@Unknownperson-ie6bm no. The mental health is the problem. The people should have guns. I’ll respect my elders for making sure the constitution is here to protect me and my family. You can literally kill anyone with anything. Gun can’t kill people alone it takes people to kill people using guns.
@@haleystewart259 So give out guns to everyone no matter what their background is? That's what the government and people are doing, look at where we are now. A bunch of shootings in schools and public areas
@@Unknownperson-ie6bm actually they aren't easy to get and if everyone carried we wouldn't have people dying as they wait for someone else to come protect them. You have to protect yourself. Police are minutes away when you only have seconds.. and that's in a good area, in the hoods they will take up to 6 hours from my experience.
It just sounds so abusive to me that Brenda's dad would dismiss her, not comfort her, or express any concern for her well being. He knows she's suicidal and then buys her a gun. It just sounds like he really wanted her dead. I imagine this dynamic was happening for years before Brenda shot up the school.
he also touched her in bed, and brenda wasn't even the only minor he took advantage of, he ended up marrying brenda's underage old cell mate and had a baby with her :(( that nasty man should have gone to jail also
Why do you expect him to comfort her? He sexually abused her👀 at that moment he didn't care for her well being and when she got older he still didn't care ( but I know where you are coming from)
Once he heard from that teacher, i think he knew he couldn't get her help, because he'd be the one in jail. So, if she had been successful in her suicide at the time, i think he would have been relieved... In a sick way that he had "helped" them both.
I’m concerned about the child he had with the cell mate. I hope he didn’t sexually assault her. Brenda was one of the very few killers who literally begged for help & everyone around her didn’t take her seriously. They were lucky that she even expressed what she felt because there are kids who don’t show or say anything and then snap. Let’s just remember and embrace the hero’s who passed and saved so many children 🥺 God bless them! We have to do better.
her frontal lobe damage explains the impulsivity and also explains later in her court case when she says she didnt remember a lot of that day... people thought it was sketchy that she 'didnt remember' but it actually makes sense for that whole day to feel hazy to her and not remember much if she has frontal lobe damage.
Hello Miss Hailey.. I enjoyed your video. If you need any first hand accounts of that day, feel feel to ask. I was there and saw everything. My friend and I walked right up to the scene just after the first barrage of shots. We stood there in a daze or fog for what seemed like 30 or 40 seconds with Mr. Wragg and our school custodian at our feet. There was also a young girl lying on her side with a bullet wound in her upper thigh. Luckily a teacher screamed out to us from behind a row of bushes and told us to run. We ran straight back and around the corner to the teachers lounge. Seconds later the shots rang out again. My 6th teacher Mr. Daryl Barnes was a true hero that day. I learned he passed away a few years ago. Tomorrow is the anniversary date so every year I tend search for videos. Thank you for keeping this event alive. It needs to be remembered.
The detached way she talked about it really broke me. There's a way kids talk about things they've processed, and a way kids talk about things they're processing. That poor child was still so bewildered and traumatized. What a nightmare.
About your frontal lobe: your pre-frontal cortex isn’t fully developed until around 25 years old. It plays a major role in decision making, impulsiveness, etc. Imagine your choices as a 16 year old vs. as a 27 year old. Impulsivity will still be there but you think more about the consequences than you would have at a younger age. I wish there was more research done on the brains of serial killers (during life *and* after death) or even for criminal masterminds in general. Aside from being 16, I don’t doubt she also had damage to it or it wasn’t active like most people’s pre frontal cortex is.
I agree completely especially since she was being abused and was abusing substances there could’ve been so much more wrong and we will never (I am not trying to justify or humanize her or her actions they were terrible)
anxiety can also reduce implusiveness early on in life but does way more damage later on by casuing crippling constant worry about everything going wrong and a total lack of ablity to deal with stress i know cause it happend to me in my scream happy constantly quilt tripping family
Yes and also they did a very extensive study on the frontal lobes of killers/serial killers and almost all of them had damage or low activity in their frontal lobes.
i wrote a paper on the psychology of serial killers in HS for AP Pysch. it’s kind of wild how many similarities and signs serial killers share and the way they think
I believe abuse can delay the development of the frontal lobe and taking drugs at a young can cause a lot of damage, so whether she was on them at the time or not it would have had an effect on her. so by 25 her brain might not even have developed yet fully which is why we're only now seeing improvements.
my ex’s dad had schizophrenia and his wife refused to get him help. he ended up taking us own life in 2013. i think it’s so hurtful to people who have actual mental disorders when they’re portrayed in movies as “the bad guy.” it twists society.
The really sad part about this story is that when someone becomes suicidal like that and attempts to take their own life, a large percentage of people who have attempted suicide but failed their attempt never try again afterwards once faced with death’s doorstep and experiencing the pains of that attempt, for an attempt at an OD, it can be a very painful experience afterwards. What breaks my heart is hearing that she continued her attempts. That really does show just how bad her life must have been if she attempted multiple times in that way
Yesss, this story is INSANE. Fucking chilling and the killers life was horrific…. God bless the school employees who gave and risked their lives for their students that day 💜💜
Crystal looked like such a brave little girl, along with all the other students and educators who had to go through that traumatizing event. My heart goes out to them
I remember listening to this song with my Dad and he told me it was about “a girl who brought a gun to school and killed some people because she ‘didn’t like Mondays’” thank you for covering this, I’m glad I have so much more information on this case now. You are so mature and articulate and I’ll definitely be following your channel!
Yeah it’s kinda comforting to me, I tend to get insecure about the way I talk and when I mess up my words/sentence structure so the fact that she’s not afraid to leave that in there makes me feel so much better lol
This story always makes me sad. She was failed by literally everyone! Doesn't excuse what she did at all, I just wish she'd had help as a child. Child killers are always somewhat preventable :( On mental health, thank you for mentioning how the media distorts things. Depression is so scary, especially when people don't understand it. I personally think that movies about murderers can be good as they help us to understand and prevent these things. However, if the killer is glorified and the victims are ignored, it can be more harmful.
i think it is important to humanize murderers and their victims. studying the mind of people helps bring better prevention and treatment. i do think that they should be made to not be as "attractive" since it also romanticizes them as people already do by sending crazy fan girl letters to jail. you are always so good at giving the story while respecting the victims and staying with lighthearted commentary. love your videos
@@frizzyhairedgirl charming more so than attractive, which I think was portrayed amazingly by Zac, it's why some girls still felt he was off while others just fell for his charm and were attracted. And I think he did that perfectly from looking at the response of the public. Some people saw murderer glorification because he was portrayed as an attractive guy, while others were impressed with his acting abilities because of slimy creepy charm, which no doubt saved many women from the actual ted.
Honestly if u have seen mindhunters u can see how humanising killers like Ed Kemper affected on investigators. So honestly I don't like empathizing with killers until it's a defence attack
@@kayd9405 if u wanna call someone a human just like us who shot up an elementary school u do u but don't expect others to agree with that. Someone who's able to do that is a monster in my eyes. I don't care if that person had a bad childhood. Yea it sucks that they probably wouldn't have mass murdered if their childhood wasn't so fucked up but these monsters do what they do and deserve no remorse for what they do. That's my opinion. And people can do research to prevent these things in the future without humanizing them.
I loved what you said about mental illness prejudice bc I have borderline personality disorder and it's always portrayed like the villains, the bad people, and while I know it's complicated to other people I hate the stereotype.
I've watched the Zac Efron Ted Bundy movie and I don't feel like it glorified him at all. It really showed what a horrible and manipulative man he was. I think casting Zac was brilliant because he's so charming and he did a great job warping that image.
I agree if anything the bad side of the true crime comunity is the problem. Some people really glorify seriall killers and all that. Those are the problems .
Thank you so much for the focus on clarifying misconceptions about major mental illnesses. My brother is schizophrenic and he’s one of the sweetest and most kind people I know. He’s attempted to take his own life numerous times but would never ever try to harm someone else
My boyfriend is as well; we actually ended up dating because he tried to kill himself by overdosing on heroine (long ass story there) but I begged him to stop and go out with me and his closest local friend and we had a blast and from that moment on we’ve been stuck together. He’s such a sweet person. It’s wild to hear about the things he’s done and see him as the person he’s shown me.
ok i never leave comments but i just have to say how IMPRESSED I am with your channel... like girl these are fully researched and fact-checked, hour-long research papers made into videos with visual supports and even little audio cut-ins and everything! AAAAAND you have a very interesting personality and know how to keep people's attention?? and the makeup??? like most channels that would have something this amazing would have a whole team of people but its just you???? and you're so young!!!! I don't know how you do it. Dont be afraid to take a break sometime. you deserve it.
When you mentioned that it lasted 16 minutes, that was how long the video was up until that point. So that was interesting and helped me really understand how long that actually is
Fun fact: I grew up where she grew up like legit the same street, my grandma once yelled at Brenda for like being a brat or something idk. And my aunts were her classmatesssss so this kinda hits home in a way. Anddd I drove past her house literally t o d a y. Such a weird coincidence.
As an older person, it is a classic song... Didn't even know it was inspired by this tragic event... it stands alone as a Monday blues song... but I can see why some people were upset at the time...
It honestly makes sense to me that she would never mention SA during therapy. I mean the one time she opened up to someone about her home life it didn't go well, so after the trauma that came with that it, makes sense that she wouldn't try again. Besides it's something alot of people don't want to talk about or admit happened because thats how they choose to cope with it.
In her formative years Brenda didn't get the opportunity to give and receive empathy. So it makes sense to me that it took her so long sifting thru her own darkness before she could feel that remorse.
Just putting this out there, but maybe the reason she held back on talking about the sexual assault is possibly because she experienced the teacher calling her dad the first time she had the guts to talk about her life at home. Like that was such a bad move. Maybe she was scared that her father was being given her reports from therapy or something since she was so young when she was sent into prison and cut off from society. Now we kind of know what therapy and the process is kind of like, but back then it wasn’t common and children wouldn’t have really known what the process was like. Idk, just my guess.
I actually attended this school, it was a middle school by that point, and it's always so weird to see a place I'm so familiar with in videos like this. They had a memorial for the principle and the custodian at the flagpole in front of the school. Her dad still lived there and used to get mad at parents for parking next to his house to drop off or pick up, he came out to yell at my mom a couple times about it. It was wild.
Her dad should've been in jail. Should've had a protest outside his house bc he an accessory to a mass murder, is still free. Let's see how the scum couldn't gotten s mad about that
My late great uncle had schizophrenia, not once did he ever hurt anyone, he was so kind. Im also currently getting tested for schizophrenia, and whether I have it or not, Ive never seriously thought of harming someone else. I would like to mention I have (emerging) BPD aswell, and its so misrepresented. Everyone thinks were just attention seeking, were a danger to others, were manipulating, etc, but it just sucks how much its misrepresented and how stigmatized it is
As someone who suffers with mental health myself, I find it infuriating when the media used mental illness as an excuse for disgusting in humane actions. Paints people with mental illness as dangerous, which simply isn’t the truth.
@@theobsidiansimp8626 exactly, the media will paint people with mental illnesses dangerous, and criminals amd shit. it just makes us look dangerous, when in reality the majority wouldnt seriously commit a serious crime
Thanks for talking about schizophrenia 🙌🏼 my brother would have never hurt anyone. He did hear voices and he was under the impression that people were coming after him, but again he would have never hurt a fly and was so loving. Unfortunately we lost him to suicide in 2019. It got to be too much. But schizophrenia can look so different in different people. I totally suggest everyone to do their research and continue to advocate for mental health 😊
Do schizophrenic ppl talk to you a certain time of year kicked Jan to May. Then get angry by August after thr 2nd week. Then ignore you until December 31? Then suddenly be all nice & act like they changed by Jan the next year? Just asking bc someone with off behavior could be schizophrenic
Obviously what she did was inexcusable, and I'm all for murders staying in prison for life, but idk... There's something so tragic about Brenda's story. Living a miserable life, resulting in an act of aggression at the age of 16, landing her in prison for the rest of her life. I can't help but pity her.
Honestly I feel like there could have been more done to prevent the shooting itself, like if somebody would have tried to intervene more and her life as a child and get her the help she needed. Things could have been different. But given the time that this took place, it was inevitable, as well. She was pretty much a ticking time bomb, and either her, her father or anyone in the vicinity could/would of been harmed. Hopefully this can help raise the awareness, and these things could be caught sooner to prevent future incidents. I can't imagine the emotions and trauma all the survivors have had to overcome 🥺 my heart goes out to them all, and anyone else harmed by things like this
@@hzyleyrose sadly, I really don't think that could be much use :( . People would still find a way to get guns illegally, however.. I do think it would risk stuff like this from happening more often! But making sure not one person in a country/state can access a gun won't do too much but it can be a step in the right direction for sure!! :))
I’m a child of the 80s and 90s. Police and so called child protection services were a joke you could plea for help , show proof of abuse and neglect and they take you right back home to your abuser and tell you to behave for your parents.
Agreed. She was failed, you can see the pain and numbness in her eyes. Trauma can take a toll on a person and unfortunately it can be a ticking time bomb like you said, either harming herself or others and it came out to be that she killed people
@@kellydee1057 Thank you for saying that because I was about to look that up LOL OK I wasn’t sure if Garfield saying that came before or after this incident
My mom was a teacher for twenty two years, English as a second language and elementary school education. She would have quickly taken a bullet for any child; she loved kids and couldn't bear to think of a child being hurt for any reason. Her students were like her kids to her and she considered it her job to protect them. Tons of her students, now grown ups, showed up at my mother's wake when she passed away.
I cried when you talked about the ones who were trying to protect kids it is so sweet how some peaple are ready to give up their own lives to save others
pls tell me garfield, the orange cat who hates mondays, isn’t inspired by brenda spencer, a ginger-haired teen who also hates mondays- edit: garfield came out a year prior to the shooting
She said when her dad got her the gun...she felt like he wanted her to snap/kill herself. 💔 It reminds me of Ethan Crumbley's parents...Brenda's father should have been charged too!
I feel like people should keep in mind the rational choice theory when thinking about crimes like this. The rational choice theory weighs the likelihood for criminals to commit crime, such as personal (revenge, money, etc.) and situational factors (law enforcement presence, victim vulnerability, etc). In my opinion, I feel like this one was more irrational because there really isn’t a distinct benefit for her to kill and she didn’t really plan this crime, like a more rational killer would, so she easily got caught. Even the most deranged serial killers can be rational because they are more likely to plan their kills and choose the “perfect” victim, which hints at rationality in the criminal. I just wanted to add that to the discussion of mental illness in killers. Killers DO NOT have to be mentally ill to kill. This logic is so frustrating to see. Thank you for broadcasting that!
Agree! Just an unrelated thought. Narcissists can be rational and people try to argue they are also mentally ill. Your comment reminds me that they are not. Many killers are Narcissistic, I mean the entitlement to take anothers life. My opinion.
Thank you so much for talking about how certain mental illnesses don't lead to homicidal behavior at the end!!! One of my best friends is diagnosed with schizophrenia, and it took her ages to even tell me just out of fear of how id react. She's one of the nicest most thoughtful people ive ever met, and it makes me so sad that she felt she couldn't talk about her problems.
That's so sad that the father would not listen to her basically begging and pleading for help. My gosh this is so heartbreaking begging for the help she really knew she needed. 😟😞
you probably wont see this but i just got tested for heart issues today and was really worried, but when i saw that you posted, it really made me feel a lot better
Thank you so much for talking about schizophrenia and all the misconceptions. I have schizophrenia and I hate how some people treat me when they learn that I have it.
Thank you for pointing out the connections to mental illness and the situation, but not using it as an excuse for her actions. I’ve literally had people in my life who’ve said that it’s scary to know someone with mental illnesses cause they can become serial killers. There are plenty of people with chemical imbalances and frontal lope defects that are in bad situations, but they DONT go and try to murder children. Too many times have I told someone about my bipolar and I instantly see them start to change their opinions on me and assume I’m gonna “snap”.
As a current grad student, studying to become a therapist I think the romanticizing of serial killers can be dangerous. I agree the appeal of the dramatic narratives of these individuals’ lives is extremely intriguing but their actions should not be glorified. Mental illness may give us the “why” someone acts the way they do but it does not necessarily excuse their behavior. Also, love your videos🤍
You said "walk it off" and I got TRIGGERED lmfao. That was my mom's favorite line. Ive always said I could lose both legs and she'd tell me to walk it off. She's mostly not like that now, now she understands anxiety and depression bc she realized that's been her whole life and you cannot in fact, walk it off. Loved this video as all your videos!
Thank you so much for your commentary on peoples mental health issues and the stereotypes that go with them as I am currently involved in trying to navigate the new diagnosis of my own brother who has been officially labeled as having unspecified psychosis but doctors have also suspected PTSD and schizophrenia are involved it’s been such a nightmare getting an official diagnosis and getting him on the road to treatment and please forgive my lack of punctuation as I am on the road listening to your channel and I’m using the talk to text feature on my phone to leave this comment
everyone gets upset about zac efron playing ted bundy, but what people need to realise is that many people described ted bundy as a super handsome, charming man before they found out what he did.
Afterwards as well. It was a huge part of the draw - monsters aren’t supposed to be appealing. It also made the crimes easier. A handsome, charming, persuasive man, especially when struggling with a broken arm? That’s a lot for a young woman to turn away from, especially back then. “No” was not a word women were encouraged to use much.
Some don't agree on the handsome part. Just average but compared to most killers he was better/normal looking. Although with those weird beady eyes you could tell something ain't right.
The principal going out and trying to save and protect his school children brought tears to my eyes. The principal and the custodian are true heroes, may they have eternal peace. ❤️
This story was so crazy and dark the first time I heard it. I thought Brenda had died I didn’t know she was still alive today and tbh I hope she never gets out and for it to stay that way. One thing I don’t like is when people harm or kill animals and children. It’s a huge NO to me when they try to appeal to get out. Also I just wanna say the dark Smokey eye look, looks so good on you!❤️
to speak on schizophrenia, one of my mom’s boyfriends (my younger brothers father) was physically and mentally abusive and also tried to do things and successfully did things that could’ve killed us (me, my mother, and my sister). HOWEVER my aunt on my father’s side also has schizophrenia and she has genuinely helped me through so much in life and is one of the sweetest people i know. schizophrenia is such a stigmatized disorder and it’s really saddening. most people i know with schizophrenia, or schizo-affective disorders, aren’t violent people.
The Iceman was probably one of my favorite murderer movies. It didn’t really romanticize him, but more so showed us how we can be so oblivious to a person and what they really do when no one is around. And the actor did a great job portraying the darkness behind it all.
So you’re telling me the dad didn’t serve any time? I’m sure it would be hard to find evidence about being abusive and a drunk, but what about him buying her the gun? Is that not punishable by law???
Frontal lobe damage can definitely do a number but yeah, I don't know how I feel about totally excusing someone for their actions. As a personal example, my mother suffered frontal lobe damage in a car accident and it definitely made her more carelessly cruel and amped up her issues with impulsivity and emotional impermanence, but when I hear about how she was before the accident I have to think she was always that kind of person and was just more worried about appearances before. But I definitely think that this was more of a perfect storm of abuse, neglect and mental illness, combined with that frontal lobe damage that made all of those things harder to cope with. Overall just kind of a sad story, because we'll never know if she may have been a perfectly nice person if her dad hadn't abused her for years, ignored her struggles and then given her a big gun.
Thank you for the schizophrenia bit, it runs in my family and I’m currently showing symptoms of it and hearing people talk about schizophrenics like they’re all insane honestly makes me scared
@@BooksStarringMissy yeah Im aware I ended up getting diagnosed lol I don’t think I worded that correctly but I’m more scared for how people will view me and my family once they get told about it
Thank you, Hailey, so, so much for taking the time to reiterate that fact on schizophrenia. I've been dealing with both positive and negative symptoms of the disorder since junior high but didn't share them with anyone or receive help until my early 20s. I was terrified people were going to think I was a monster and that I would end up harming them, just like you said. And you're right - just because one has the diagnosis of schizophrenia doesn't mean they are destined to become a killer. In fact, many of the symptoms of schizophrenia can actually be well managed and even go into remission. It pains me to think of how many people didn't or have yet to receive the treatment they deserve due to the stereotypes and stigma surrounding the disorder. Schizophrenia may not [currently] have a cure but that doesn't mean one can't still live a fulfilling life despite it
8:22 my mom does that- she forces me to tell her how i’m feeling and she bats going on then yells at me for feeling the way i do. last night she said i need to just be happy, think happy thoughts, and i’ll be fine.
I'm very sorry to hear that you're going through this. I went through it too, and I'm 29 now, and only just getting my mental health in check. As soon as you're able, please reach out to professionals. It's not easy, but trust me, it's extremely worth it. One day you can look back and be proud of yourself for how far you've come. I believe in you, and I truly wish you the best.
I'm so sorry to hear this. My mom does the same thing and it really hurts to know that my very apparent mental illnesses are being trivialized. I open up about my struggles and she just laughs them off and tells me I'm not trying hard enough. It sucks to know that other people are dealing with this as well. Stay strong, you're worth it. I didn't think I would make it past 10th grade and yet here I am in my 2nd year of university. Things get better. You deserve nothing less than the best. Make sure you're there to see yourself get it. ❤❤❤❤
I respectfully disagree with the idea one should never create art from horrific events. I also don't think doing so automatically indicates disrespect towards the victims. There's also an argument to be made about posterity, like how 19th- and 20th-century murder ballads are why we still know about victims who would've otherwise been lost to time. For better or worse, Bob Geldof and Johnnie Fingers immortalized what BAS did. Granted, I think people would otherwise know about her case because of public interest in mass shootings, but I digress. Now, should the authors capitalize on such works? Preferably not. I think if "I Don't Like Mondays" was to be released today, a large portion of the profits would go to the survivors, the victims' families, the school, a relevant charity, etc. The backlash would be more severe and widespread than it was in the early 80s. I think media about murderers isn't inherently insensitive. It really depends on various factors: the writing, how faceless the victims are, how gratuitous the murder scenes are (if they're shown at all), the gaze the director chooses, etc. I think a good example is The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story. While the miniseries focuses mainly on the titular man and the spree killer who murdered him, it also spends time on each of the other four victims. These four men are often footnotes (aside from maybe Lee Miglin), even in documentaries, but GV: ACS lends gravitas to each of their murders. A bad example would be just about anything involving Jack the Ripper.
I agree with you completely. As a kid in the early 90s i first learned about this incident because of the song "I Don't Like Mondays". True crime music isn't a new thing, and isn't a bad thing. Most artists create it to bring awareness and to teach. A prime example of this is in recent years is SKYND, all of their music encompasses this notion. I view this on par with music made to bring awareness to social injustices, violence in other countries, etc. The Cranberries were huge for that with songs like "Zomebie", "War Child" and Bosnia". Hell they even did a true crime one "I Just Shot John Lennon". These bands aren't alone in all this. Awareness and education should never be assumed to be a means of glorification or disrespect to those who suffered.
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I don't understand why that teacher would call her father to try to get him to get her help for her depression after Brenda told her the abuse he does to her. I don't know if it's just me, but after hearing about the abuse I wouldn't expect him to care for her.
I would have expected the teacher to help her, not call her abusive father.
That’s what I was thinking.
Yeah I feel like maybe calling the police or a therapist instead of you know calling her abuser would maybe have actually helped her
@@000-i9p It is actually mandatory that teachers report to authorities any time there's suspected abuse-- if a child is being abused and told the teacher, and the teacher just reached out to the parent, that's illegal & they could lose their job easily. It's been like this for a while so I can see mandatory reporting being not enforced that long ago as much as I can see it there-- there may be a chance that she didn't speak on s/a, or minimised the abuse she was experiencing at home which is also so common with traumatised kids (tho mandatory reporters don't need the kid to say anything to report)
Probably because the time period it happened
Exactlyyyy what a dumb move I can't evennnn
As an educator, I would lay my life down to protect my students, no questions asked. They deserve a future.
thank you for all that you do!! one of my teachers said something similar to us after an active shooter drill in school. it made me feel a little more safe in my school. my school district was also really strict bc there was a shooting in the 90s at one of the schools. i always appreciated that they took an extra step to protect the students. i remember if i was late i had to use an intercom outside the school and show my ID to be let in, it was annoying at the time, but i appreciate it so looking back.
Thank you sooooo soooo soooo much. Really. 🥰
🤍🤍🤍
wow what a great teacher ❤️
@Kianna What year was that? Like when you were in school . Asking because that’s super cool hope they’re still using it
"the father fought back tears" i'm sorry but i do not feel bad for him, she asked him for psychiatric help and he gave her a gun.
Exactly what type of parent would do that? A gun? Your child is calling out for help instead of getting her the psychiatric treatment she needed he puts a dangerous weapon in her hand. WTH? He should have been charged with some type of crime. If he wouldn't have gotten her that gun a lot of innocent people would still be alive. I'm not trying to excuse her actions but the father drop the ball big time!!
@@Army4life82 what type of father? Rapist father. Idk why u guys so shocked he rape is daughter and verbally abuse her , do u think he will give f?
Tears because he’d miss her sweet lovin
actually though. he abused her (SEXUALLY MIGHT I ADD) and acts like he only did the best he could
AND WHO TF WOULD GIVE A SUICIDAL PERSON A GUN? ISTG..
I can't even imagine how long those 16 minutes must have actually felt to the victims.
I blame the dad she told him she was struggling and he bought her a gun
@@HiMynamesNece me too honestly. but he was also struggling with substance abuse and was probably super drunk when she mentioned it to him.
im not saying what he did was okay. all im saying is. he was probably drunk or high.
@@lilsjkkk3022 no it doesn't but he should of shared some of the blame even though she pulled the trigger
@@HiMynamesNece i do think that the adults in her life definitely failed her but i can't let that justify her actions but then again she was 16 so this one is just hard to watch cause the shooting was definitely preventable.
Chilld comes and opens up to the teachers about her abusive household.
Teacher: Time to call and snich on her, to the abusive household!
sadly that's a lot more common than not tbh
LITERALLY THO
Myself and a friend went to our school’s social worker for help for our friend who was struggling with depression. (We had no other options she wouldn’t get help and she was suicidal). We told them that our friend got verbally abused and when it came to things like her health didn’t believe anything was wrong and what did the counselor do??? Call…her…mom…and what did her mom do!!? Yell at my friend!!! Like ik u have to report that stuff but calling the person who is directly causing the problem?! C’MON
Actually I went to my guidance counselor once saying I wanted to well... Off myself, and she just said I can't do anything unless I tell your mom, and dismissed me. After I told her my mom was verbally abusing me. And a teacher I told straight up called my mom to say I was bringing my mental issues to the classroom too much, which didn't help. I did have one teacher that didn't snitch on me but the fact that I lost 2/3 times is... Shitty. And it's really depressing that it's been 50 years and it hasn't improved any.
@@SunshineCo225 I am so glad that you didn't do it
@@thetasigma9923 aw thanks! I am doing a lot better mentally now. It does help that was 5 years ago but I'm just glad I am doing better.
The dad didn't want to get hed help because he didn't want her telling anyone about the sexual abuse. Hands down. I doubt if was solely because of the mind set that time. It was self preservation.
I thought that too. He wasn’t just dismissing her because of the mindset of that time, he was saving his ass from getting arrested.
No lies detected
If you study the history of this case she brought the emotional abuse to her teachers attention. She didn't claim anything about sexual abuse until a parole hearing in the 90s. Not a word. The board itself decided that she was trying to garner sympathy from them and had made up the sexual abuse. You can decide for yourself, but the official view is that it never happened.
man oh man… if i EVER meet someone who abuses children in any type of way… 🙃 it’s their turn to get abused
I also believe she did not out the abuse for many years because he was her only link to the outside..
Brenda was failed by her parents, her teachers and the system. I understand and sympathize with her situation but that doesnt excuse what she did.
People should think " How would I fare if I had the same circumstances as this person" before judging them
@@crimson6952 something that is not done often
@@crimson6952 certainly not have shot at kids and staff at a school.
This isn’t really a “don’t judge somebody unless you’ve walked a mile in their shoes” type of situation.
@@aspiringbeamoflight7047 something that shouldn’t be done in this situation because it was a school shooting.
@@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe if your mind so limited that you can't find empathy for her, how do you expect to prevent shit like this from happening again? We should absolutely try to figure out and understand why this happened.
I asked my dad for therapy when I was 18 because I was depressed and passively suicidal. He literally laughed and said no, we don't do things like that. I haven't spoken to him in three years.
(Didn't shoot anyone, though.)
i hope you’re doing better now
@@boldbrash7599 Yeah..my dad is like that too, instead of taking me to therapy because im depressed; my grades are falling off exam by exam he instead insists on making me take more courses so i can learn better, bud i dont have the motivation to do shit hiring private tutors wont fucking help.
So sorry to hear that. some parents really shuck hope you feel beter now.
@@Unreachableparadise That really is so sad to hear. Parents really think that piling more stuff on them is gonna help like it doesn’t do the opposite. it’s sad how some parents really just don’t care for their kids mental/emotional health.
As he should ✨ king
The principle's wife hasn't washed his clothes or changed anything in the house since he was killed 40 years ago. That is absolutely heartbreaking I feel so sorry for her. Just a terrible story.
I mean how couldnt you? I honestly feel sad for everyone cause this could habe been avoided if she got taken seriously and got her depression treated.
This story is so messed up and sad my heart goes out to the principals wife and the survivors and non survivors of this horrible crime.
I would be devastated if I lost the love of my life :( he is truly my favorite person and the thought of losing home breaks my heart
Him *
That's love, women these days would've had a boyfriend before he was buried.
The fact that it took her until she was 50 years old to realize she’s done anything wrong is the reason why she should not be let out on parole. She was very young when she committed the shooting, she could have been rehabilitated, but it took her 40+ years to understand what she did was very wrong. That in my opinion is why she should stay in prison
Lol she’s not at all sorry nor does she understand it was wrong. She understands she should feel bad.
She tried to act how she felt. She tried to lie that it was drugs. She tried to claim her shit dad pushed her too.
She played every card in the book before she realized the only thing left was sayin “sorry”.
@@oppaloopa3698 i can’t fully blame her tho, cause of the damage to her frontal lobe. it might’ve also been bc of her father’s abuse (maybe not, idk) but she still shouldn’t be let out
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She’s way too calculating tho. Like yea she did have FLD but that doesn’t completely destroy your ability to know right from wrong AND control your actions unless it’s very serious. She didn’t have a history of the kind of behavioral issues that would indicate the kind of damage necessary to not make informed decisions.
She struggled with it but boohoo. Plenty of folks struggle with plenty of things. Plenty are abused even worse than she claimed to be. They don’t all choose to murder children.
She’s a liar and a manipulator. She knew what strings to play to get folks to pity her and it’s really sad to see that it apparently didn’t fail with a good many. At least in the comments.
@@oppaloopa3698 well of course. idk how severe her fld was, but her inability to know right from wrong or at least not do those wrongs makes her incrediably dangerous and i wouldn’t want her roaming freely as if she is innocent. but, i can somewhat nderstand what she’s going through, and thats what i mean. i usually try to understand the criminals to some extent because usually there’s a reason or motive behind their actions. doesn’t justify her actions, just allows me to understand her a little more
@forest rin he's saying that it's not an excuse to let her free. She has white woman privilege and she used it, but she's insane, she shouldn't be free.
Being as severely depressed and suicidal as she was, you kind of get this disregard for your own life and at that point just don't care what happens to you or anyone else. Apathy is a huge part of depression that people ignore.
You just want to end it all at that point
Apathy for other people to the point of not caring you killed them is not a sign of depression but psychopathic tendency
@@indoorplant2392 And is also a possible sign of depression 👍 way to miss the point !
Yes the crime 100% sounds like su*cide by cop. “I’m just gonna come out sh00ting” and she was already su*cidal ! I’m not excusing her actions but she went through a lot during her developmental stages she was indeed temporarily insane.
Edit: I just got to the part of the video where she admits this.
idk if this was her reasoning though because not caring about yourself or others and what happens to them naturally butttt loading a gun and obviously some premeditated ideation’s of mass murder is very different from not caring. actually it shows she did care she just wanted everyone to care and hurt as much as her.
Shes a trauma victim through and through. Everyone failed her and the community paid for it. Truly a lose lose situation, heartbreaking AF.
This. Exactly this.
so innocent kids pay for her trauma?
@@dri6287 she said everyone loses. Not that they had to pay
***the 9 kids were trauma victims
“She asked for a radio for Xmas , so he instead got her a gun”
Sound American logic.
not even that, it’s just dumb parenting
@@softieva nah that’s American parenting brother
@@Jessica-kw8no no it isn’t. I’m American and my parents wouldn’t give me a GUN for Christmas!
@@michaela3979 yeahhh im pretty sure most kids in america can say the same. my parents would never give me a gun after telling them ive been trying to kill myself.
@@serenitythornbro7174 right
the poor principals wife, i hope she’ll eventually be alright.
She's been dead like 30 years or so. Hopefully she got to see her hubs on the other side.
How DARE her father act emotional during her sentence. Maybe all of this could've been prevented if he had been a fucking decent person to his fucking daughter. His treatment of Brenda doesn't justify what she did at ALL, but it makes me so angry that Brenda's father got off basically scot-free for something that he was, in a way, responsible for.
Periodddd, my boyfriend has schizophrenia and yes, every once in a while he hears voices, but it’s pretty rare. It just morphs his personality sometimes, people should do more research before talking about mental disorders because u really learn a lot. So glad u mentioned it, love u queen. Btw I also wanna say, I’m the same age as u and the fact that ur doing all of this on ur own and making videos on the internet, like…I’m so awed by you. I could never do all the things you do, your videos are so informative, researched, and your makeup is always poppin. Like just know ur a fucking queen and icon and we don’t deserve u girl 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Bc their are multiple forms of schizophrenia. Schizoaffective disorder is usually the type that hears voices when they’re struggling with mental health. Paranoid schizophrenia is the most common form of schizophrenia & they do not hear voices or hallucinate. That’s a very rare form of schizophrenia my uncle had his entire life.
Yeah but also your boyfriend is treated... Untreathed schizophrenia can lead to this kind of stuff..
Uncured depression leads to psychosis which leads to schizophrenia and it has many many forms.
I think maybe she had psychosis which was also untreated and that is what makes it dangerous.
@@antonijapataric4542 me with psychosis from messing up my Prozac pills :)
@@Sad.pookie 😂😂❤️
@@Sad.pookie ofcourse pills can cause psychosis, also drugs can. This was just one example of how it occurs and it happened to this girl sadly. There are many.
I’m a psychology/counseling masters student and we learn that a lot of these cases could be avoided if adults stepped up and became positive influences in kids life. Kids look up to adults and learn right from wrong and life lessons from these adults. If these positive influences are removed then these kids experiences pile on such as bad home life, bad school experience, no friends, etc. This then results in depression and other mental illnesses. This then results the development of these actions.
Very nicely said but I'm hoping one doesn't need to be a "psychology/counseling masters student" to know this. Seems like regular common sense ya know?
Yes but no, not all kids coming from abusing household turn out mass shooter or serial killer. The phrase "hurt people hurt people" is some strong BS because it diminish the importance of personnal traits that push people towards ways of coping with their abuse.
@@MademoiselleCl3 yes but how many shooters come from loving accepting households? There are other factors but def a strong correlation.
@@aduzzz3322 how many people come from a loving and healthy household ? For real, im sure not a lot and certainly not a majority, still not event a minority of people aren't actively trying to kill others.
@@MademoiselleCl3
I don't think they were implying that every single person does this, but rather that it can develop into things like this.
As a violent crime survivor, I would want everyone to know my story if I had died. I would be fine with a movie or documentary about my attacker, even if he was played by an attractive actor, because I would still be an integral part of the story. The problem isn't the media itself, but the fancams and fandom culture as a whole celebrating these killers and completely removing us from our stories.
I’m so grateful you didn’t say guns were the problem. You’re completely right.
@@haleystewart259 Guns being so easy to get is a problem, but people not getting help and speaking is also a problem
@@Unknownperson-ie6bm no. The mental health is the problem. The people should have guns. I’ll respect my elders for making sure the constitution is here to protect me and my family.
You can literally kill anyone with anything. Gun can’t kill people alone it takes people to kill people using guns.
@@haleystewart259 So give out guns to everyone no matter what their background is? That's what the government and people are doing, look at where we are now. A bunch of shootings in schools and public areas
@@Unknownperson-ie6bm actually they aren't easy to get and if everyone carried we wouldn't have people dying as they wait for someone else to come protect them. You have to protect yourself. Police are minutes away when you only have seconds.. and that's in a good area, in the hoods they will take up to 6 hours from my experience.
the principal trying to protect the kids broke my heart :( what a kind soul
It just sounds so abusive to me that Brenda's dad would dismiss her, not comfort her, or express any concern for her well being. He knows she's suicidal and then buys her a gun. It just sounds like he really wanted her dead. I imagine this dynamic was happening for years before Brenda shot up the school.
he also touched her in bed, and brenda wasn't even the only minor he took advantage of, he ended up marrying brenda's underage old cell mate and had a baby with her :(( that nasty man should have gone to jail also
honestly it seems like she never stood a chance at being healthy/stable…he doomed her from the start. sick and twisted
@@DanisDiamonds Her mother didn't want her either.
Why do you expect him to comfort her? He sexually abused her👀 at that moment he didn't care for her well being and when she got older he still didn't care ( but I know where you are coming from)
Once he heard from that teacher, i think he knew he couldn't get her help, because he'd be the one in jail. So, if she had been successful in her suicide at the time, i think he would have been relieved... In a sick way that he had "helped" them both.
I’m concerned about the child he had with the cell mate. I hope he didn’t sexually assault her.
Brenda was one of the very few killers who literally begged for help & everyone around her didn’t take her seriously. They were lucky that she even expressed what she felt because there are kids who don’t show or say anything and then snap.
Let’s just remember and embrace the hero’s who passed and saved so many children 🥺
God bless them!
We have to do better.
her frontal lobe damage explains the impulsivity and also explains later in her court case when she says she didnt remember a lot of that day... people thought it was sketchy that she 'didnt remember' but it actually makes sense for that whole day to feel hazy to her and not remember much if she has frontal lobe damage.
I remember when you only had 100 subscribers, you’ve grown so much and I’m so happy for you! I love your channel smmm :)
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Hello Miss Hailey.. I enjoyed your video. If you need any first hand accounts of that day, feel feel to ask. I was there and saw everything. My friend and I walked right up to the scene just after the first barrage of shots. We stood there in a daze or fog for what seemed like 30 or 40 seconds with Mr. Wragg and our school custodian at our feet. There was also a young girl lying on her side with a bullet wound in her upper thigh. Luckily a teacher screamed out to us from behind a row of bushes and told us to run. We ran straight back and around the corner to the teachers lounge. Seconds later the shots rang out again. My 6th teacher Mr. Daryl Barnes was a true hero that day. I learned he passed away a few years ago. Tomorrow is the anniversary date so every year I tend search for videos. Thank you for keeping this event alive. It needs to be remembered.
i hope you’re doing well 💓
My condolences! Glad you are still here!
The clip with crystals mom kissing her on the cheek saying they were blessed since it did damage her bone made me cry
Same.Those must have been so traumatized
The detached way she talked about it really broke me. There's a way kids talk about things they've processed, and a way kids talk about things they're processing. That poor child was still so bewildered and traumatized. What a nightmare.
About your frontal lobe: your pre-frontal cortex isn’t fully developed until around 25 years old. It plays a major role in decision making, impulsiveness, etc. Imagine your choices as a 16 year old vs. as a 27 year old. Impulsivity will still be there but you think more about the consequences than you would have at a younger age. I wish there was more research done on the brains of serial killers (during life *and* after death) or even for criminal masterminds in general. Aside from being 16, I don’t doubt she also had damage to it or it wasn’t active like most people’s pre frontal cortex is.
I agree completely especially since she was being abused and was abusing substances there could’ve been so much more wrong and we will never (I am not trying to justify or humanize her or her actions they were terrible)
anxiety can also reduce implusiveness early on in life but does way more damage later on by casuing crippling constant worry about everything going wrong and a total lack of ablity to deal with stress i know cause it happend to me in my scream happy constantly quilt tripping family
Yes and also they did a very extensive study on the frontal lobes of killers/serial killers and almost all of them had damage or low activity in their frontal lobes.
i wrote a paper on the psychology of serial killers in HS for AP Pysch. it’s kind of wild how many similarities and signs serial killers share and the way they think
I believe abuse can delay the development of the frontal lobe and taking drugs at a young can cause a lot of damage, so whether she was on them at the time or not it would have had an effect on her. so by 25 her brain might not even have developed yet fully which is why we're only now seeing improvements.
my ex’s dad had schizophrenia and his wife refused to get him help. he ended up taking us own life in 2013. i think it’s so hurtful to people who have actual mental disorders when they’re portrayed in movies as “the bad guy.” it twists society.
Why did the wife refuse to help?
“she would ditch class to smoke weed, and do cigarettes, and drink alcohol” ah yes i love to do cigarettes
I love to do cigarettes I still say that sometimes to. Actually thank goodness i do not like cigarettes anymore
@@JamesTScot congrats on getting through that🤎
I was thinking the same thing😂
HAHA I CAUGHT THAT TOO
@@JamesTScot im so proud of you! congratulations :)
The really sad part about this story is that when someone becomes suicidal like that and attempts to take their own life, a large percentage of people who have attempted suicide but failed their attempt never try again afterwards once faced with death’s doorstep and experiencing the pains of that attempt, for an attempt at an OD, it can be a very painful experience afterwards.
What breaks my heart is hearing that she continued her attempts. That really does show just how bad her life must have been if she attempted multiple times in that way
in my experience it becomes almost addicting, every time you try it gets easier (that’s just my observation)
Yesss, this story is INSANE. Fucking chilling and the killers life was horrific…. God bless the school employees who gave and risked their lives for their students that day 💜💜
Didn't even watch it yet but I'm guessing she's white.
@@rydz656 ok... and?
@@rydz656 among us sussy mogus
@@rydz656 What at all does her skin color have to do with anything?!?!?!
Crystal looked like such a brave little girl, along with all the other students and educators who had to go through that traumatizing event. My heart goes out to them
I remember listening to this song with my Dad and he told me it was about “a girl who brought a gun to school and killed some people because she ‘didn’t like Mondays’” thank you for covering this, I’m glad I have so much more information on this case now. You are so mature and articulate and I’ll definitely be following your channel!
You aren't a 90's kid, but you have a very 90's look and energy. As an 80's kid, I love it.
Same ❤
when she said 2008 i felt soooo old
@@phoxmold7713 same. She’s five years older than my oldest son. 👵🏼
y’all 40 watching her? wowww
@@michaela3979 im 28 lmao
The fact that she left the house the same and hasnt washed his clothes in 40 years just so she could smell her passed husband 😭😭 love is so powerful
nah when I heard that any sort of sympathy I had for Brenda went out the window 😭
When my boyfriend died my roommate washed all his clothes and his scent disappeared I’m still upset about that tbh I’m glad she had that
@@coolkarla123 so sorry to hear that, hope you're healing 🙏🏻💗
@@coolkarla123 I'm so sorry for your loss. I wish U all the best and healing and grow💐💐♥️♥️
@@sanaya8802 same
Crystal recalling the memory made me tear up. This is so heartbreaking.
i love how she makes grammar errors so confidently, queen 👑
It's one of my favorite things about this channel no joke
Yeah it’s kinda comforting to me, I tend to get insecure about the way I talk and when I mess up my words/sentence structure so the fact that she’s not afraid to leave that in there makes me feel so much better lol
genuinely can’t tell if this is passive aggressive or not LOL
Ok, a bee
@@jodiew7472 genuinely something i love about her! always brings a smile to my face :)
hailey: "and all things spooky scary skeleton"
me: *sits down*
I was about to go to bed ... not anymore. Going to be a strong coffee and energy drinks for me today (it's currently 5am)
@@tashbaz1822 damn it's 15:30 over here in New york
it’s 8:30pm in the uk lol
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@@choicethetaurus Clicked on a random link and I'm not disappointed
This story always makes me sad. She was failed by literally everyone! Doesn't excuse what she did at all, I just wish she'd had help as a child. Child killers are always somewhat preventable :(
On mental health, thank you for mentioning how the media distorts things. Depression is so scary, especially when people don't understand it.
I personally think that movies about murderers can be good as they help us to understand and prevent these things. However, if the killer is glorified and the victims are ignored, it can be more harmful.
"I don't like Mondays." Who is she, Garfield?
She kinda looks like Garfield 🤷♀️
except garfield didn't commmit mass murder
Who likes Mondays?
@@mluna1 I don't think they're so bad these days.
gingers smh (i'm a ginger)
i think it is important to humanize murderers and their victims. studying the mind of people helps bring better prevention and treatment. i do think that they should be made to not be as "attractive" since it also romanticizes them as people already do by sending crazy fan girl letters to jail. you are always so good at giving the story while respecting the victims and staying with lighthearted commentary. love your videos
I agree, however Ted Bundy's always been known for being attractive (which he used to his advantage), so I'd say Zac Efron wasn't a bad choice.
@@frizzyhairedgirl charming more so than attractive, which I think was portrayed amazingly by Zac, it's why some girls still felt he was off while others just fell for his charm and were attracted. And I think he did that perfectly from looking at the response of the public. Some people saw murderer glorification because he was portrayed as an attractive guy, while others were impressed with his acting abilities because of slimy creepy charm, which no doubt saved many women from the actual ted.
Honestly if u have seen mindhunters u can see how humanising killers like Ed Kemper affected on investigators.
So honestly I don't like empathizing with killers until it's a defence attack
@@leahburcham8743 it’s important to realize they’re humans to understand WHY they did it to help prevent it in the future
@@kayd9405 if u wanna call someone a human just like us who shot up an elementary school u do u but don't expect others to agree with that. Someone who's able to do that is a monster in my eyes. I don't care if that person had a bad childhood. Yea it sucks that they probably wouldn't have mass murdered if their childhood wasn't so fucked up but these monsters do what they do and deserve no remorse for what they do. That's my opinion.
And people can do research to prevent these things in the future without humanizing them.
I loved what you said about mental illness prejudice bc I have borderline personality disorder and it's always portrayed like the villains, the bad people, and while I know it's complicated to other people I hate the stereotype.
I've watched the Zac Efron Ted Bundy movie and I don't feel like it glorified him at all. It really showed what a horrible and manipulative man he was. I think casting Zac was brilliant because he's so charming and he did a great job warping that image.
This! Also big kudos for not showing the murders, only the one at the end but it didn't go into graphic detail
I agree if anything the bad side of the true crime comunity is the problem.
Some people really glorify seriall killers and all that.
Those are the problems .
@@crow5326 So many women back in the 80s who were obsessed with Ted Bundy. So gross.
@@victoriawilliams8196 my god yeah that too ... scary to think about honestly. They would have been victims if he weren't in prison .
Surprisingly I still saw a lot of posts calling their relationship goals and saying they wish they were one of his victims on Twitter lol
Thank you so much for the focus on clarifying misconceptions about major mental illnesses. My brother is schizophrenic and he’s one of the sweetest and most kind people I know. He’s attempted to take his own life numerous times but would never ever try to harm someone else
My boyfriend is as well; we actually ended up dating because he tried to kill himself by overdosing on heroine (long ass story there) but I begged him to stop and go out with me and his closest local friend and we had a blast and from that moment on we’ve been stuck together. He’s such a sweet person. It’s wild to hear about the things he’s done and see him as the person he’s shown me.
ok i never leave comments but i just have to say how IMPRESSED I am with your channel... like girl these are fully researched and fact-checked, hour-long research papers made into videos with visual supports and even little audio cut-ins and everything! AAAAAND you have a very interesting personality and know how to keep people's attention?? and the makeup??? like most channels that would have something this amazing would have a whole team of people but its just you???? and you're so young!!!! I don't know how you do it. Dont be afraid to take a break sometime. you deserve it.
"I Don't like Mondays" is the equivalent of " pumped up kicks"
I low key always thought that song was based off an active shooter case. Still loved the song though
@@Liquethemodel There's no way it isn't. The lyrics literally say so. It's not based on a single event, though.
@@frizzyhairedgirl yeah it’s not based on a single event/case. It’s based off school shootings in general
Just your average person! i thought it was writing by someone that wanted to shoot up his school
Sir Bob Geldoff wrote this for his band the Boomtown Rats SPECIFICALLY from her quote
When you mentioned that it lasted 16 minutes, that was how long the video was up until that point. So that was interesting and helped me really understand how long that actually is
Oh my god, the interview with the little girl that was shot was absolutely heart wrenching.
Fun fact: I grew up where she grew up like legit the same street, my grandma once yelled at Brenda for like being a brat or something idk. And my aunts were her classmatesssss so this kinda hits home in a way. Anddd I drove past her house literally t o d a y. Such a weird coincidence.
fun fact: 🧢
@@divamontoya5283
what’s unbelievable ab this?
I wanna believe thisssss but idkkkk
@@divamontoya5283 There is 0 reason not to believe this. Like, Negative Ada isn't getting clout for this or anything lmao
@@imanowlexterminator it’s literally there choice to believe it or not
As an older person, it is a classic song... Didn't even know it was inspired by this tragic event... it stands alone as a Monday blues song... but I can see why some people were upset at the time...
I wanna shoot, shooOoOooOoOOOoooot... the whole day down~
@@kikiza123 shoot it all down!
Tell me why 🎶 I don't like Mondays 🎵 tell me why I don't like Mondahhays 🎶
It honestly makes sense to me that she would never mention SA during therapy. I mean the one time she opened up to someone about her home life it didn't go well, so after the trauma that came with that it, makes sense that she wouldn't try again. Besides it's something alot of people don't want to talk about or admit happened because thats how they choose to cope with it.
In her formative years Brenda didn't get the opportunity to give and receive empathy. So it makes sense to me that it took her so long sifting thru her own darkness before she could feel that remorse.
Just putting this out there, but maybe the reason she held back on talking about the sexual assault is possibly because she experienced the teacher calling her dad the first time she had the guts to talk about her life at home. Like that was such a bad move. Maybe she was scared that her father was being given her reports from therapy or something since she was so young when she was sent into prison and cut off from society. Now we kind of know what therapy and the process is kind of like, but back then it wasn’t common and children wouldn’t have really known what the process was like. Idk, just my guess.
I actually attended this school, it was a middle school by that point, and it's always so weird to see a place I'm so familiar with in videos like this. They had a memorial for the principle and the custodian at the flagpole in front of the school. Her dad still lived there and used to get mad at parents for parking next to his house to drop off or pick up, he came out to yell at my mom a couple times about it. It was wild.
Her dad should've been in jail. Should've had a protest outside his house bc he an accessory to a mass murder, is still free. Let's see how the scum couldn't gotten s mad about that
My late great uncle had schizophrenia, not once did he ever hurt anyone, he was so kind. Im also currently getting tested for schizophrenia, and whether I have it or not, Ive never seriously thought of harming someone else. I would like to mention I have (emerging) BPD aswell, and its so misrepresented. Everyone thinks were just attention seeking, were a danger to others, were manipulating, etc, but it just sucks how much its misrepresented and how stigmatized it is
Honestly it’s sad I was recently diagnosed with bpd and there is no medication just a lot of therapy.
@@jamielee1354 exactly, all i can do is go to therapy and hope that my therapist can help me get better
As someone who suffers with mental health myself, I find it infuriating when the media used mental illness as an excuse for disgusting in humane actions. Paints people with mental illness as dangerous, which simply isn’t the truth.
@@theobsidiansimp8626 yea my parents don’t believe in mental illness.
@@theobsidiansimp8626 exactly, the media will paint people with mental illnesses dangerous, and criminals amd shit. it just makes us look dangerous, when in reality the majority wouldnt seriously commit a serious crime
Thanks for talking about schizophrenia 🙌🏼 my brother would have never hurt anyone. He did hear voices and he was under the impression that people were coming after him, but again he would have never hurt a fly and was so loving. Unfortunately we lost him to suicide in 2019. It got to be too much. But schizophrenia can look so different in different people. I totally suggest everyone to do their research and continue to advocate for mental health 😊
Sorry for your loss, I agree with your comment 10 fold.
Do schizophrenic ppl talk to you a certain time of year kicked Jan to May. Then get angry by August after thr 2nd week. Then ignore you until December 31? Then suddenly be all nice & act like they changed by Jan the next year? Just asking bc someone with off behavior could be schizophrenic
Obviously what she did was inexcusable, and I'm all for murders staying in prison for life, but idk... There's something so tragic about Brenda's story. Living a miserable life, resulting in an act of aggression at the age of 16, landing her in prison for the rest of her life. I can't help but pity her.
Honestly I feel like there could have been more done to prevent the shooting itself, like if somebody would have tried to intervene more and her life as a child and get her the help she needed. Things could have been different. But given the time that this took place, it was inevitable, as well. She was pretty much a ticking time bomb, and either her, her father or anyone in the vicinity could/would of been harmed. Hopefully this can help raise the awareness, and these things could be caught sooner to prevent future incidents. I can't imagine the emotions and trauma all the survivors have had to overcome 🥺 my heart goes out to them all, and anyone else harmed by things like this
banning guns would be a great first step!😔
@@hzyleyrose sadly, I really don't think that could be much use :( . People would still find a way to get guns illegally, however.. I do think it would risk stuff like this from happening more often! But making sure not one person in a country/state can access a gun won't do too much but it can be a step in the right direction for sure!! :))
I’m a child of the 80s and 90s. Police and so called child protection services were a joke you could plea for help , show proof of abuse and neglect and they take you right back home to your abuser and tell you to behave for your parents.
Agreed. She was failed, you can see the pain and numbness in her eyes. Trauma can take a toll on a person and unfortunately it can be a ticking time bomb like you said, either harming herself or others and it came out to be that she killed people
@@hzyleyrose Not all guns, people hunt wild game
When she mentioned how “I hate Monday was Inspired by…” I thought she was about to say Garfield 💀
Same!!!!
Omg me too
To be fair the Garfield comic strip had just debuted in 1978, so that’s most likely where she got the phrase from.
Same LMAO
@@kellydee1057 Thank you for saying that because I was about to look that up LOL OK I wasn’t sure if Garfield saying that came before or after this incident
My mom was a teacher for twenty two years, English as a second language and elementary school education. She would have quickly taken a bullet for any child; she loved kids and couldn't bear to think of a child being hurt for any reason. Her students were like her kids to her and she considered it her job to protect them. Tons of her students, now grown ups, showed up at my mother's wake when she passed away.
I cried when you talked about the ones who were trying to protect kids it is so sweet how some peaple are ready to give up their own lives to save others
pls tell me garfield, the orange cat who hates mondays, isn’t inspired by brenda spencer, a ginger-haired teen who also hates mondays-
edit: garfield came out a year prior to the shooting
shit...
oh my...
oh no…
oh fuck
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She said when her dad got her the gun...she felt like he wanted her to snap/kill herself. 💔
It reminds me of Ethan Crumbley's parents...Brenda's father should have been charged too!
I feel like people should keep in mind the rational choice theory when thinking about crimes like this. The rational choice theory weighs the likelihood for criminals to commit crime, such as personal (revenge, money, etc.) and situational factors (law enforcement presence, victim vulnerability, etc). In my opinion, I feel like this one was more irrational because there really isn’t a distinct benefit for her to kill and she didn’t really plan this crime, like a more rational killer would, so she easily got caught. Even the most deranged serial killers can be rational because they are more likely to plan their kills and choose the “perfect” victim, which hints at rationality in the criminal. I just wanted to add that to the discussion of mental illness in killers. Killers DO NOT have to be mentally ill to kill. This logic is so frustrating to see. Thank you for broadcasting that!
Agree!
Just an unrelated thought. Narcissists can be rational and people try to argue they are also mentally ill. Your comment reminds me that they are not. Many killers are Narcissistic, I mean the entitlement to take anothers life. My opinion.
I wait for these videos every week, they’re my therapy at this point
Same😩🖐
we're so fucked up, listening to criminal stories and weird theories and conspiracies are our therapy 💀💀
Thank you so much for talking about how certain mental illnesses don't lead to homicidal behavior at the end!!! One of my best friends is diagnosed with schizophrenia, and it took her ages to even tell me just out of fear of how id react. She's one of the nicest most thoughtful people ive ever met, and it makes me so sad that she felt she couldn't talk about her problems.
That's so sad that the father would not listen to her basically begging and pleading for help. My gosh this is so heartbreaking begging for the help she really knew she needed. 😟😞
Fr!!! And then he went and got her a gun!😭🙄
Well......he was molesting her, obviously he didn't care about her mental health
you probably wont see this but i just got tested for heart issues today and was really worried, but when i saw that you posted, it really made me feel a lot better
i hope everything comes out okay, take care and stay safe
how'd it go?
@@judahunderwood8433 they didnt tell me exactly whats wrong but they did say i had an abnormal heartbeat and a bit of fluid
I hope everything's okay. ❤
i hope you are doing okay
Thank you so much for talking about schizophrenia and all the misconceptions. I have schizophrenia and I hate how some people treat me when they learn that I have it.
Can we just talk about how fast hailey’s channel has grown like whoa
yes! also omgg twin names ❤️❤️
Yes!! Also same name club 😂
i remember when she was at around 2k
the fact that hailey's schedule lines up with when i have art class >>>
Ah I have mine on Thursday’s but I love re watching some of her videos while in art class too
If her father would have gotten her a radio rather than a gun this tragedy might have been avoided imo.
i love how its ex-disney channel actors playing murderers
"That's my student, hah ha. She should have been at school today. She's having a bad day, ha." excuse me
Thank you for pointing out the connections to mental illness and the situation, but not using it as an excuse for her actions.
I’ve literally had people in my life who’ve said that it’s scary to know someone with mental illnesses cause they can become serial killers. There are plenty of people with chemical imbalances and frontal lope defects that are in bad situations, but they DONT go and try to murder children. Too many times have I told someone about my bipolar and I instantly see them start to change their opinions on me and assume I’m gonna “snap”.
The principal deserves an award or something special. It's hard to find teachers or especially principals that care to that extent. ❤️💖
As a current grad student, studying to become a therapist I think the romanticizing of serial killers can be dangerous. I agree the appeal of the dramatic narratives of these individuals’ lives is extremely intriguing but their actions should not be glorified. Mental illness may give us the “why” someone acts the way they do but it does not necessarily excuse their behavior.
Also, love your videos🤍
I hope u become a therapist you seem like a nice person! :D
She's my age, and I remember so well when this happened.
I feel terrible for her life story, but it does not excuse her murderous rampage.
You said "walk it off" and I got TRIGGERED lmfao. That was my mom's favorite line. Ive always said I could lose both legs and she'd tell me to walk it off. She's mostly not like that now, now she understands anxiety and depression bc she realized that's been her whole life and you cannot in fact, walk it off. Loved this video as all your videos!
“It wasn’t a STONER neighborhood” 😂😂
Probably would have been better if it was 😂
😂🤦♀️
Thank you so much for your commentary on peoples mental health issues and the stereotypes that go with them as I am currently involved in trying to navigate the new diagnosis of my own brother who has been officially labeled as having unspecified psychosis but doctors have also suspected PTSD and schizophrenia are involved it’s been such a nightmare getting an official diagnosis and getting him on the road to treatment and please forgive my lack of punctuation as I am on the road listening to your channel and I’m using the talk to text feature on my phone to leave this comment
everyone gets upset about zac efron playing ted bundy, but what people need to realise is that many people described ted bundy as a super handsome, charming man before they found out what he did.
Afterwards as well. It was a huge part of the draw - monsters aren’t supposed to be appealing. It also made the crimes easier. A handsome, charming, persuasive man, especially when struggling with a broken arm? That’s a lot for a young woman to turn away from, especially back then. “No” was not a word women were encouraged to use much.
Some don't agree on the handsome part. Just average but compared to most killers he was better/normal looking.
Although with those weird beady eyes you could tell something ain't right.
He was brilliant as Bundy.
I never realized what a good actor he is.
@@graciep.6984 Well...hate the sin love the sinner..
@@zet7670 I agree he was good looking but it doesn't excuse what he did
Brenda: "I killed a police officer once"
Her classmates: weird flex but okay.
Lmao
The principal going out and trying to save and protect his school children brought tears to my eyes. The principal and the custodian are true heroes, may they have eternal peace. ❤️
This story was so crazy and dark the first time I heard it. I thought Brenda had died I didn’t know she was still alive today and tbh I hope she never gets out and for it to stay that way. One thing I don’t like is when people harm or kill animals and children. It’s a huge NO to me when they try to appeal to get out. Also I just wanna say the dark Smokey eye look, looks so good on you!❤️
24:08 THE SWITH FROM SPACE JAM TO IT POSTER SHOCKED ME HAHAHA
WHAHAHAHA THE GRAMMAR IS SO FUCKED UP THIS MAKES YOUR COMMENT SO MUCH FUNNIER AHAHAJJAJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJA
@@bappo1525 nobody asked tho 😍
@@heathenised nobody said i couldnt say shit tho 😍😍😍😍😍
stop arguing in these replys bro it's not that serious.
ty for the warning
to speak on schizophrenia, one of my mom’s boyfriends (my younger brothers father) was physically and mentally abusive and also tried to do things and successfully did things that could’ve killed us (me, my mother, and my sister). HOWEVER my aunt on my father’s side also has schizophrenia and she has genuinely helped me through so much in life and is one of the sweetest people i know. schizophrenia is such a stigmatized disorder and it’s really saddening. most people i know with schizophrenia, or schizo-affective disorders, aren’t violent people.
The Iceman was probably one of my favorite murderer movies. It didn’t really romanticize him, but more so showed us how we can be so oblivious to a person and what they really do when no one is around. And the actor did a great job portraying the darkness behind it all.
“this isn’t a stoner neighborhood” LMAOO
Right 🤣
*Laughs in Oklahoma* 😭😭🤣🤣
i had to rewind to make sure i heard that right 😂😂
I'm so glad society is different now 😂
"my love for you: my heart" we love you hailey so proud of how far you've come!
I was literally dreading to clean the house but now you gave me a distraction while I clean!!!!!! THANK YOU
@hv fun istg if I see u again
@@sphenophyta right 🧍🏻♀️
“Smoke weed and do cigarettes” I’m sorry but that made me cackle
So you’re telling me the dad didn’t serve any time? I’m sure it would be hard to find evidence about being abusive and a drunk, but what about him buying her the gun? Is that not punishable by law???
Frontal lobe damage can definitely do a number but yeah, I don't know how I feel about totally excusing someone for their actions. As a personal example, my mother suffered frontal lobe damage in a car accident and it definitely made her more carelessly cruel and amped up her issues with impulsivity and emotional impermanence, but when I hear about how she was before the accident I have to think she was always that kind of person and was just more worried about appearances before.
But I definitely think that this was more of a perfect storm of abuse, neglect and mental illness, combined with that frontal lobe damage that made all of those things harder to cope with. Overall just kind of a sad story, because we'll never know if she may have been a perfectly nice person if her dad hadn't abused her for years, ignored her struggles and then given her a big gun.
Thank you for the schizophrenia bit, it runs in my family and I’m currently showing symptoms of it and hearing people talk about schizophrenics like they’re all insane honestly makes me scared
i’ve been diagnosed with schizophrenia and medicated and i can promise you the majority of schizophrenic people are not violent crazy people
@@BooksStarringMissy yeah Im aware I ended up getting diagnosed lol
I don’t think I worded that correctly but I’m more scared for how people will view me and my family once they get told about it
35:25 yes yes!! hearing people say things like this makes me so happy because my dad has schizophrenia and people always assume he's violent
So important and amazing of Hailey to condemn stereotypes around mental illness like schizophrenia/DID! Thank you goddess! 💜🥳
🙏
Thank you, Hailey, so, so much for taking the time to reiterate that fact on schizophrenia. I've been dealing with both positive and negative symptoms of the disorder since junior high but didn't share them with anyone or receive help until my early 20s. I was terrified people were going to think I was a monster and that I would end up harming them, just like you said. And you're right - just because one has the diagnosis of schizophrenia doesn't mean they are destined to become a killer. In fact, many of the symptoms of schizophrenia can actually be well managed and even go into remission. It pains me to think of how many people didn't or have yet to receive the treatment they deserve due to the stereotypes and stigma surrounding the disorder. Schizophrenia may not [currently] have a cure but that doesn't mean one can't still live a fulfilling life despite it
Strength to you Mi-Ok
this is actually my first time watching an entire video of somebody summarizing a crime story - well done!
8:22 my mom does that- she forces me to tell her how i’m feeling and she bats going on then yells at me for feeling the way i do. last night she said i need to just be happy, think happy thoughts, and i’ll be fine.
I'm very sorry to hear that you're going through this.
I went through it too, and I'm 29 now, and only just getting my mental health in check.
As soon as you're able, please reach out to professionals. It's not easy, but trust me, it's extremely worth it.
One day you can look back and be proud of yourself for how far you've come.
I believe in you, and I truly wish you the best.
I'm so sorry to hear this. My mom does the same thing and it really hurts to know that my very apparent mental illnesses are being trivialized. I open up about my struggles and she just laughs them off and tells me I'm not trying hard enough. It sucks to know that other people are dealing with this as well. Stay strong, you're worth it. I didn't think I would make it past 10th grade and yet here I am in my 2nd year of university. Things get better. You deserve nothing less than the best. Make sure you're there to see yourself get it. ❤❤❤❤
My mom is the same
I respectfully disagree with the idea one should never create art from horrific events. I also don't think doing so automatically indicates disrespect towards the victims. There's also an argument to be made about posterity, like how 19th- and 20th-century murder ballads are why we still know about victims who would've otherwise been lost to time. For better or worse, Bob Geldof and Johnnie Fingers immortalized what BAS did. Granted, I think people would otherwise know about her case because of public interest in mass shootings, but I digress. Now, should the authors capitalize on such works? Preferably not. I think if "I Don't Like Mondays" was to be released today, a large portion of the profits would go to the survivors, the victims' families, the school, a relevant charity, etc. The backlash would be more severe and widespread than it was in the early 80s.
I think media about murderers isn't inherently insensitive. It really depends on various factors: the writing, how faceless the victims are, how gratuitous the murder scenes are (if they're shown at all), the gaze the director chooses, etc. I think a good example is The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story. While the miniseries focuses mainly on the titular man and the spree killer who murdered him, it also spends time on each of the other four victims. These four men are often footnotes (aside from maybe Lee Miglin), even in documentaries, but GV: ACS lends gravitas to each of their murders. A bad example would be just about anything involving Jack the Ripper.
I agree with you completely. As a kid in the early 90s i first learned about this incident because of the song "I Don't Like Mondays". True crime music isn't a new thing, and isn't a bad thing. Most artists create it to bring awareness and to teach. A prime example of this is in recent years is SKYND, all of their music encompasses this notion. I view this on par with music made to bring awareness to social injustices, violence in other countries, etc. The Cranberries were huge for that with songs like "Zomebie", "War Child" and Bosnia". Hell they even did a true crime one "I Just Shot John Lennon". These bands aren't alone in all this. Awareness and education should never be assumed to be a means of glorification or disrespect to those who suffered.