12 Year-Old Girl Kills Family to be with 23 Year old Boyfriend: The Richardson Family

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  • @W4TSKY
    @W4TSKY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9200

    If I caught my 12 year old daughter making out with a 23 year old I would call the cops. There would be no stern talking to, I’m pressing charges and getting a restraining order immediately wtf

    • @idk-gy8ds
      @idk-gy8ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +670

      yeah and its crazy how all their friends were just okay with the relationship, especially Jeremy's

    • @W4TSKY
      @W4TSKY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +605

      @@idk-gy8ds and them causally mentioning they were planning on killing the family. I could excuse it once as maybe a bad joke or something, but bringing it up over and over again and asking a bunch of different friends to help with murder? like y’all really didn’t see any red flags?

    • @MrGFloyd
      @MrGFloyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Come on they’re just kids having fun.

    • @_Mic_helle_
      @_Mic_helle_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +284

      @@MrGFloyd wtf

    • @れい-x4p1z
      @れい-x4p1z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@W4TSKY if it was my mama he'd get the black mama beat down hKJSGJDH no mercy

  • @bunnyreggy
    @bunnyreggy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4522

    jacob having his lightsaber in his hand for protection & him saying “i’m scared, i’m too young to die” broke me into pieces

    • @iheartvile
      @iheartvile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      LITERALLY i was tearing up

    • @jamied4nner
      @jamied4nner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      The lightsaber part

    • @mellissanorton49
      @mellissanorton49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Literally! May their family Rest In Peace and may God continue to cover them because this was heart wrenching.

    • @KA-ig7oy
      @KA-ig7oy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I cried at that part nd i never have cried before heading those true crime stories

    • @ariana6112
      @ariana6112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      she pulled an anakin

  • @meganjones758
    @meganjones758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5846

    As a 24 year old I can’t imagine willingly spending time with a 12 year old what the heck

    • @legendteller4893
      @legendteller4893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +488

      Because you're not an insane or seriously sick person, thank god. 😫🤮

    • @mrmosbyslefttit
      @mrmosbyslefttit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      No really

    • @amycremeens7194
      @amycremeens7194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Cause ur not a sick dude

    • @miwfreak4312
      @miwfreak4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I know what you mean but I find it funny that's what ur bringing up when they murdered her entire family

    • @tanie3543
      @tanie3543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I mean, most people won't (hopefully) lol

  • @celestiallizard420
    @celestiallizard420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1290

    My little brother is my entire universe. I cannot even begin to imagine how sick that girl must’ve been. That child deserved a sister who would’ve protected him. This is so devastating.

    • @biglaw3266
      @biglaw3266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Mine is too. He’s a pain sometimes but I couldn’t ever imagine doing this to them…

    • @mtj.cynical
      @mtj.cynical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      The fact that she’s alive right now, living with those memories, makes me want to vomit. So disgusting.

    • @kayhollimon876
      @kayhollimon876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i cried when she talked about him so sad i can’t imagine my little brother going through this so sad

    • @glitch_s0up
      @glitch_s0up ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly, it made it more sad that he looked up to her

    • @crunchberrychaos1545
      @crunchberrychaos1545 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everyone wants a sibling or so should be expected to love or care about the one they were stuck with.

  • @laikenpierce3375
    @laikenpierce3375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1822

    As a former 12 year old who "dated" a 22 year old man years ago.... my momma beat my ass and cut every form of communication out for me and him. I hated her for it then but I am SO THANKFUL now. She knew what I was far too young to see.

    • @floraflowers
      @floraflowers ปีที่แล้ว +91

      And even so, I doubt you actually thought about killing her for that. That's the fine line

    • @laikenpierce3375
      @laikenpierce3375 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      @@floraflowers absolutely not. Running away, maybe. Murder, not quite.

    • @NoamiReyes-k6k
      @NoamiReyes-k6k ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@laikenpierce3375 oh my god, I’m so sorry, but happy that you have a good mother.

    • @NoamiReyes-k6k
      @NoamiReyes-k6k ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@laikenpierce3375 do you mind if I ask how you met?

    • @laikenpierce3375
      @laikenpierce3375 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@NoamiReyes-k6k internet. This was back in the earlier days of chat rooms and messengers(Yahoo and MSN). I ran away to be with him when I was 15, with my mom not far behind me to bring me right back. It finally ended when I turned 20 and realized what a dummy I'd been.

  • @lillemoon
    @lillemoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6766

    The story about the kid was so heartbreaking. Imagine being that young and killed by YOUR SISTER. He sounded so scared :(

    • @klianne13
      @klianne13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +345

      It makes me feel so sick your sister is supposed to be someone that you can rely on not your murderer

    • @MrGFloyd
      @MrGFloyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Facts but let’s talk abt how Hailey is low key a baddie

    • @Jojo-ex1tn
      @Jojo-ex1tn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      @@MrGFloyd ?????????????

    • @MrGFloyd
      @MrGFloyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Jojo-ex1tn i know right that’s what i said like damn she’s bad

    • @serotonin7687
      @serotonin7687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      @@MrGFloyd not the time for a joke lol read the room

  • @charlesharsha4568
    @charlesharsha4568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9922

    The fact that none of Jeremy's friends call him out for dating a kid is whats really messed up

    • @isabelp187
      @isabelp187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +391

      They probs all wanted children

    • @moyaxoxo5923
      @moyaxoxo5923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      They probably did jokingly

    • @echo997
      @echo997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      disgusting men protect other disgusting men

    • @maebeline2496
      @maebeline2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      And said nothing when he was literally asking for them to help him commit murder. All dumb as fuck.

    • @CAS11236
      @CAS11236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      It’s explains them not have a conscience enough to report the murder plan and later admission.

  • @Needassistance
    @Needassistance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4895

    The fact that the boy was holding his lightsaber made me cry uncontrollably

    • @potato1084
      @potato1084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      😭😭

    • @idk-gy8ds
      @idk-gy8ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +271

      its so horrible i felt sick imagining it

    • @SanjaSleipnir
      @SanjaSleipnir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      same

    • @sierramobley8962
      @sierramobley8962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +249

      poor baby 😞 i saw this story on deadly women years ago and her killing her parents was bad enough, but what she did to her brother broke my heart 😞 i couldn’t even imagine ever hurting my little brother or sister

    • @enzour
      @enzour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      My heart is aching for jacob omg..

  • @gglizzy4651
    @gglizzy4651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    That little boy had NOTHING to do with her issues. That lightsaber detail really did something to me. I'm so disappointed in the school though because how are they not monitoring these conversations that are being had on school computers?

    • @Historygeek2006
      @Historygeek2006 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I mean, this was in 2006, the monitoring on computers is not what it is now

  • @Sarah-jq7vv
    @Sarah-jq7vv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +904

    The fact that she is completely free right now just baffles my mind. I understand she was young, but normal kids (Or normal people at that) don't just kill their whole family, (especially their own little brother) and proceed to brag about it to their friends and feel no remorse about it until they're put into jail. That sounds like someone who needs to be locked up forever, no matter the age.

    • @a.p.5342
      @a.p.5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I couldn’t agree more with you. Just knowing she’s out there after all this shit that went down is beyond words. It’s infuriating.

    • @lunalu666lucifuge5
      @lunalu666lucifuge5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She was seen at a popular Uni, full scholarship, got doxxed on Reddit and now has a third name. ​@@a.p.5342

    • @angelothehorrorfan5013
      @angelothehorrorfan5013 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Her name is now Isabel Everen

  • @KatGlo
    @KatGlo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6504

    She actually had amazing parents. Such a shame she didn’t see that.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +239

      AmazIng parents would have called the cops on that creep

    • @breanndoll8058
      @breanndoll8058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +378

      @@pleaseshutup7053 they might’ve, I live in Canada and sometimes they don’t take stuff like this serious and it’s horrible.

    • @KatGlo
      @KatGlo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +310

      @@pleaseshutup7053 we don’t know if they did or didn’t. And besides no one is perfect. We do however see from the story they tried to do their best.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@breanndoll8058 Canada does take it seriously. They had the evidence and didn’t go to the police. Then they catch them at the concert and just say don’t talk to jasmine again and punish her. A known man who targets children and the parents do nothing what if Jeremy went after another girl.

    • @breanndoll8058
      @breanndoll8058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      @@pleaseshutup7053 I live in Canada and I know people who have been gr**med, the parents went to the police with evidence but all he got was a slap on the wrist. Guys like this wouldn’t obey any instructions from the police anyways. I think you’re focusing the frustration on the wrong couple.

  • @lizziedunwhat
    @lizziedunwhat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4981

    God, as an older sister who’s super close with my little brother, I couldn’t imagine EVER doing anything like that to him. I feel like crying whenever I think that someday he’ll pass from old age, and even when he’s hurt I feel extremely bad. Jasmine is a monster, idc if she was a child or not, she knew better.

    • @MrGFloyd
      @MrGFloyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Facts that D must’ve been amazing to kill for it

    • @brooklynmartinez9319
      @brooklynmartinez9319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Exactly I’m so close with my little brother and it was so hard to listen to this because my little brother is The same age that the little boy was

    • @NAME-yg8sl
      @NAME-yg8sl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      Twelve year olds aren't stupid. She made a horrible choice

    • @xarcr
      @xarcr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      This makes me feel weird since I have extreme deep hatred for my little brother💀

    • @lizziedunwhat
      @lizziedunwhat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@xarcr LMAOOOO
      I used to hate mine as well, but as we’ve both gotten older and after going through what we have, it’s really changed our bond for the better!

  • @laceymoseley880
    @laceymoseley880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3103

    Their whole relationship is disgusting. I wouldn't even call it that based on the fact that she is a literal CHILD.

    • @anastasiachaliman4234
      @anastasiachaliman4234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yes exactly this! She was being raped by that disgusting grown man. Probably daily. And she was probably completely manipulated by him.

    • @ayansaid788
      @ayansaid788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      he groomed her and the fact that women his age would never interact with as he is a manchild is a red flag to most but Jasmine is a child to her its like she struck gold when he is really a lump of coal.

    • @notpub
      @notpub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The precept of "child" is a sociological one and is culturally specific. Anthropologically, she was post-menarche and capable of willingly engaging in coitus. Periodt. It is still not condoned mind you. But let's be clear: He was not a pedophile. If anything, he was an eubobe, and in all likelihood, DD himself. BIG DIFFERENCE. Just because the zeitgeist of our time is to suggest that organic development is in progress through 35, even 30, THERE IS LITTLE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to conclude this decisively. This "new view" is based on a minority of neuroimaging studies suggesting a CASUAL relationship between pruning and mylineation of synaptic pre-frontal growth. This is akin to saying ice cream sales go up in the summer, so do rapes; therefor ice cream causes rape. !!! Be informed before you go off on a tangent, and don't be so guillable to believe everything that you hear. You have a great capacity for empathy and you only get this one life on this terrestrial sphere. Remain curious so that you can solve a problem by understanding it. You are the future.

    • @laceymoseley880
      @laceymoseley880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notpub he Is by definition a pedophile, first off, teenage girls (not all but some) feed into the older boy stereotype, and open themselves up for manipulation. I'm am not saying without him she wouldn't have murdered her family (because obviously she would have or attacked them in some way.) So regardless of your views their relationship is still wrong.

    • @Loveandlighttvjade
      @Loveandlighttvjade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@notpub anyways

  • @lesleyaslue04
    @lesleyaslue04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    The fact that Jeffery Dahmer was someone she looked up to & he's blowing up now and more people now what he's done. Is just even more scary to think about!!

  • @crayons1584
    @crayons1584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    Yes she was groomed, but it was her idea to kill her parents. She definitely knew what she was doing to some extent, this is such a sad story. The patents even tried therapy with her.

  • @BlueJello432
    @BlueJello432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1774

    I know someone who was a juror for the trail. She said it was the most traumatic experience of her life. Seeing the evidence and listening to all the testimonies

    • @itspaisleyjean
      @itspaisleyjean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Wow..I hope she’s doing alright now :(

    • @chloerene7858
      @chloerene7858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      That's horrible. Ive never considered that aspect of being a juror. They should provided therapy sessions after difficult cases.

    • @stellarstarshipflyer
      @stellarstarshipflyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      yet, "Jasmine" walks freely...crazy world.

    • @PokyLilWolfPup
      @PokyLilWolfPup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I was a juror on a murder trial. Can confirm, it fucks you up, especially in the case I was assigned, when the state drops the ball so hard there’s literally nothing you can do. Makes me sick really.

    • @PokyLilWolfPup
      @PokyLilWolfPup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Lu M Yeah it’s really difficult, especially for the more sensitive of us Homo Sapiens. On the murder trial I was selected to be a juror on, I didn’t cry in court, but you bet your butt I wept like an infant the second I got home every time. I can’t imagine having to be a juror in this case, especially with the details of her little brother’s murder. It’s absolutely heart-wrenching, and I can imagine not everyone was able to hold back their emotions in court for that and other aspects of this case. Hope the jurors and extended family are coping as best they can these days. Life can be really hard, I suppose we can only do whatever we can to make time for things that feed our souls and make us happy, hopefully while lifting others up as we do so. I hope everyone reading this is doing well, staying hydrated, getting a lil sunbeams and moonbeams, and are making time for the things that make them feel fulfilled today. ☀️✨🌙

  • @TuberoseKisser
    @TuberoseKisser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3995

    Potentially unpopular opinion but....if you have confessed to a crime and all evidence proves you have done said crime ...you shouldn't be allowed to change your identity.

    • @dukstedi
      @dukstedi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +282

      naw, i agree. no hiding!

    • @leighlavigne5482
      @leighlavigne5482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      I’m Canadian, and actually from this town, the backstory with their friend group and their fantasy life it’s clear how manipulated she was. When I was 13, a 23 year old was dating my bestie, and his friend wanted to date me, but he was a whole man🤢. I didn’t want to sit beside him, so he beat up a post? Life in a prairie town.

    • @yannialicia6529
      @yannialicia6529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Definitely not an unpopular opinion. Anyone who disagrees has issues. Anyone who commits a crime, especially a heinous crime should get the death penalty. No life (which is 15 years to life), no life without parole, just death. If people have no fear of jail than why would they care to commit the type of crimes. Many people don't care because they have three meals and a cot for free, education, and more resources then our homeless people. It's disgusting. Taxes going to criminals, and new identity that's paid for how hypocritical is that?

    • @ambriaashley3383
      @ambriaashley3383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      @@yannialicia6529 jails are horrible, dirty, violent places where many people dont even get edible food. Especially for-profit prisons. Often people are being tortured more there than they are receiving the death penalty. You gotta think of the nature of the crime, too. Smoking or buying weed is a crime that people are jailed for. Addiction is essentially a crime, & it's only poor people who go to jail for it. The rich rarely go to jail or prison for a significant amount of time, for anything.
      Plus there are so many innocent people on death row that were exonerated after the fact -- Look up The Innocence Project. Most of the exonerated are unfortunately poor Black people, like 14-year old George Stinney 😔😔. The US just gets its wrong more often than not; our justice system is broken. I dont trust it to make the right choice on who dies. Imo there are better ways to get resorative justice, teach others not to commit crime, & to make a community + survivors of the crime safer, than killing a person. Why not make them give back to the community in some way, while in jail? Not just sit there & take taxpayer dollars, as you say. And really it's the wardens & executives getting the benefits of the dollars, not the prisoners. The prisoners have to sit in their own shit all day.

    • @maggieperry-walsh8589
      @maggieperry-walsh8589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@yannialicia6529 everybody's afraid of jail, people commit crimes for different reasons these idiots reason was that they thought they were gonna get away wit it

  • @anon7751
    @anon7751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +665

    I'm 21 and even the thought of dating an 18 year old makes me a bit uncomfy. I will literally never understand and will forever be soooo disgusted at grown adults who "date" minors. Like a literal child, it's so.. ugh I can't it's so gross.

    • @justtosuffer4604
      @justtosuffer4604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Same I'm 20 and can't imagine dating someone who's my little brother's age, btw he's 18.

    • @NAME-yg8sl
      @NAME-yg8sl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      What do you think about a recently turned 15 year old dating a 18 year old out of high school, also not in university and out of a job.
      My friend is dating a 18 year old and she got pretty defensive when me and another friend said that its illegal and that her bf is a crimminal.

    • @amandasmith2399
      @amandasmith2399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      An 18 year old isn't a minor. It isn't the same thing as being 12. So...if you're 21 and dating an 18 years old...it wouldn't be frowned upon by the public.

    • @mysticjen379
      @mysticjen379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@amandasmith2399 It’s not the legality or the frowning, but the difference in development and the power dynamic.

    • @allisongirl6001
      @allisongirl6001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should be careful with the usage of the word minor though because what you’re saying may be right but some people turn it into pedophilia by saying 30 year olds can date 18 year old teenagers but a 20 year old guy is a pedophile for dating a 17 year old girl

  • @CAS11236
    @CAS11236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3356

    I don’t believe in saying “she didn’t know any better because she was young”. We all know that murder is bad. Even kids know.

    • @dyamondwomack549
      @dyamondwomack549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Yes a 7 year old learns that in kindergarde

    • @brionnadavis2937
      @brionnadavis2937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Yes and can we also speak about the fact that it was her idea and not Jeremy's I mean I could change my opinion by the end because I am at 21:39 but like when i hear they way people are talking about it's almost as if they are trying to put it all on Jeremy as if she also has no common sense when in fact she is 12 and yes he was older but even at the beginning of the video she acknowledged that for his age his head space was behind idk idk I just wanna give accountability to everyone and not just someone because they're age says one thing but obviously his brain operated in another just my rando hot take

    • @alfredfreedomjones5105
      @alfredfreedomjones5105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Right? And it’s one thing knowing or thinking, doing the action irl is so disgusting and unjustifiable. I attended a funeral and literally could not bring myself to look at the body.
      Killing someone? While they are begging for life? Having to watch them die out in front of you? Unless it’s a victim engaging in self defense it’s INEXCUSABLE

    • @222222ania
      @222222ania 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brionnadavis2937 you are defending a pedophile

    • @alexforce9
      @alexforce9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Most 12 years old girls cant watch a rabbit getting killed for dinner without crying and she planned her own family murders.

  • @emirodriguez1376
    @emirodriguez1376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1406

    The way that Jacob's last words fucking ripped my heart apart. Im an older sister myself and my little brother and sister are my entire pride and joy. She didn't deserve to be in that family. My heart hurts so much, I just wish someone could've swooped in and saved him and told him everything would've been alright. That poor baby didn't deserve that. I couldn't imagine someone doing that to their own brother who looked up to them.

    • @iwashere583
      @iwashere583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Man I love my lil brother so much and after reading the comments, I physically cannot watch the rest of the video. My heart aches for that poor boy

    • @Shadows_emerald
      @Shadows_emerald 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same :(
      My heart hurts after watching this
      May Jacob and his parents Rest In Peace :(

    • @gachaiichabi2529
      @gachaiichabi2529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes I have younger sister and I love her , she is the best part of my life along with my family ♡
      I feel so disgusted after hearing about this crime it's just sick

  • @saracha6072
    @saracha6072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1022

    If she had committed the murders herself, it probably would have ended with her dad (at the farthest).
    The 8-year-old’s dying words are just heartbreaking.

  • @andreasalas2872
    @andreasalas2872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Criminals shouldn’t be allowed to change their name honestly

  • @emilyann1120
    @emilyann1120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    as a person who was also exposed to the internet and things of such at a young age, it really makes me wonder what type of underlying issues/trauma this girl had before everything spiraled. seeking attention and validation from older men and doing hard drugs when she hadn’t even hit the TEEN phase yet is extremely concerning… her parents should’ve cracked down on her internet access wayyyy before it was even placed in her hands. all that power handed to a 10 y/o with absolutely no restrictions. it’s a shame it consumed her and older men got their slimy hands on her before the parents caught on… may they rest peacefully

    • @azulimarie2485
      @azulimarie2485 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The fact that she said the sudden personality change "came out of nowhere" i was really skeptical. Later in the video tho she said the girl went to catholic school. Now i know not all catholic schools are the same, but when i went, we got beat, constantly told we were going to hell of we didnt dress a certain way, got oogled (and sometimes touched) once a week by the leaders, and vehemently denied anything related to mental illness. And she went a few years before i did, when there was even less scrutiny against them. What she did was horrible and im not negating that. But the parents seemed genuinely kinda neglectful. 11 year olds are crafty but they arent smart.

  • @poke8735
    @poke8735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    Her parents sounded like good and amazing people. They let her have freedom but they also cared about her and TRIED to help and protect her. I feel bad for the whole family

  • @EleanoRa99
    @EleanoRa99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    Hearing that Jacob was hiding in the corner holding a light saber brought tears to my eyes. That poor kid.

  • @tilmook
    @tilmook 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2747

    I already heard about this on a podcast so let me just say that this story was in my head for WEEKS. The description of how she killed her brother, his last words, just horrible. I know she was a kid, but she chose an adult crime so she should be treated as such. Don’t defend the actions of Jasmine or her boyfriend.

    • @れい-x4p1z
      @れい-x4p1z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      yes !! i dont understand how people can say she's innocent because she was being groomed. it's not that hard to NOT stab your whole family to death ?? like, i feel sympathy for her (because she was groomed by an ADULT who knew what he was doing) but she deserved every year she was in prison for.

    • @dliz4019
      @dliz4019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      I agree. Do an adult crime, then do the adult time. I have 0 sympathy for her.

    • @thewatcheronthewalls4809
      @thewatcheronthewalls4809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What was the podcast?

    • @MrGFloyd
      @MrGFloyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Why would she date that dude??? He’s like a 3 and she’s like an 8. I don’t understand??

    • @cre448
      @cre448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you don't mind me asking what was the podcast you heard this story? Thanks in advance if you're able to reply back! 😊

  • @stubbs2x295
    @stubbs2x295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    the amount of people who could have just called to police on Jeremy and prevented this is crazy.

  • @LivelyDays23
    @LivelyDays23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Something about Jacob’s last word and him holding the light saber and everything I literally started crying and sobbing. I had to hold onto my counter because it was just so heartbreaking. Child murders always hurt thebmost

    • @jadeeliss
      @jadeeliss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      and the fact the bodies were discovered by one of his friends coming to ask to play, absolutely horrendous

  • @Jordan-bm8lp
    @Jordan-bm8lp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    The fact Jacob had his light saber out to protect him…my younger brother had like 3 of those. I can’t imagine seeing him with a toy that exemplifies the innocence and imagination of childhood and then think “yeah, ok. This is a good thing to do.”
    I just don’t get it. I love both of my siblings endlessly, however I have a very special place in my heart for my baby brother. The thought of losing him tears me up. I couldn’t imagine being the reason his life was taken. I’m crying just thinking about it

    • @crunchberrychaos1545
      @crunchberrychaos1545 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everyone wants or should love their siblings, especially if they didn't want one and the parents had one anyway. That is probably why she did it and didn't care.

    • @savorysnot8604
      @savorysnot8604 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@crunchberrychaos1545 you're probably 10 years old, I guess? I see this comment over and over again even after someone has already stated that you have to be more mature. U don't have to love your siblings but you should understand they don't have to love you either... They didn't ask to be brought to this world so be kind and patient to fucking kids. I wish you'll find your peace and get along with your siblings. In the end of the day they are the ones who'll be there for you forever.

    • @crunchberrychaos1545
      @crunchberrychaos1545 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@savorysnot8604 They didn't ask to be born the same way I didn't ask for a sibling. The dislike can be mutual, ya know. Who is to say I have siblings or not? In theory, perhaps - no one should be forced to love and protect people they don't care about. After all, the girl in this vid didn't care about her brother the same way I probably wouldn't care about a potential maybe sibling. And I am absolutely thrilled with my point of view! It makes me very happy! I may not want a sibling or like the one I have (maybe I do like the one I may or may not have) but we can feel whatever we want to feel upon their demise. And if it is happiness, so be it.

    • @hug-a-lot2270
      @hug-a-lot2270 ปีที่แล้ว

      @CatapultingCows I'm sorry but not being close to your sibling or not liking or loving them is one thing but when it comes to "feeling whatever you want to feel upon their DEMISE" I am seriously disgusted and disturbed because why would you take joy in someone's pain. And it's not just "demise" it's her actually killing him (an actual eight year old child). You should get screened because you're lack of empathy for the death of a small child is outstanding and you're just not normal. Stop talking in hypotheticals because we can all see through your murderous, gross self. You're a creep and an edgelord and I hope you get what's coming to you.

    • @crunchberrychaos1545
      @crunchberrychaos1545 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hug-a-lot2270 You people are so much fun to rile up and troll LMAO, look at that novel you wrote up there about something I totally made up!

  • @carmen8958
    @carmen8958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1899

    as someone who was groomed by predators pretty much since i was like 7 or 8, no amount of manipulation or abuse would’ve even made me THINK about murdering innocent people, let alone my own kid brother. i seriously can’t imagine how she lives w herself… i just don’t understand why? why not just run away, literally so senseless and tragic.

    • @miwfreak4312
      @miwfreak4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      That's how I feel too. I just feel like even if an older guy influenced me and manipulated I wouldn't be convinced to kill my own family. Especially my kid brother. 12 is old enough to know better

    • @HSMLover2414
      @HSMLover2414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      You weren’t manipulated by someone who was also a killer. He would talk about murdering people to together and how romantic it would be for them to do it together. She is in no way innocent, but as someone who was groomed at pre-teen age and currently works with Middle Schoolers, it doesn’t take much to influence them. Especially when they feel like they are restricted, depressed and/or feeling like an outsider.

    • @MsKJackson831
      @MsKJackson831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      @@HSMLover2414 I get that kids are easily influenced, but I honestly don't believe you can influence someone to commit murder if that isn't something they're already ok with deep down. I think taking a life requires pure evil, and no one can plant that in your head. She should have gotten life in prison for what she did.

    • @aromaladyellie
      @aromaladyellie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He might have been worried about kidnapping charges. That said, I think her being into the goth scene might have played in to how she was convinced? Not that goth culture is bad, but it's really big into death. If the first story they both told is true, that she stabbed her brother and then realised what she'd actually just done, it may be that she didn't ACTUALLY understand "death" and that they were really killing her family for real. To a child goth, death is just "cool" and loving death is "rebellious". To older teens and adults, generally, its about appreciating the beauty in death and the end and acceptance and stuff, but to children it's more broad strokes and big picture "death iz kool and dark and evil" and I really do think it's easy for a child who thinks that way to think the idea of murder is hella cool, but not actually GET IT.
      I think it's sad what she did, but I don't think she deserves prison for the rest of her life. That's not condusive. Prison should be for people who are an actual danger to society. I don't think Jasmine is. She should be on probation her whole life, and should have to check in with a therapist every month. She should have certain privileges denied to her.

    • @cheery-hex
      @cheery-hex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      100%. the comments about her being a victim and to go easy on her b/c of her age are bizarre to me. there are other cases where a kid kills and I *might agree with this sentnce, but not here. no way

  • @HadesMosley
    @HadesMosley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +497

    I’m 24 and I CANNOT FATHOM what the heck I would talk about to a 12 yr old. What a creep!!

    • @VegemiteQueen1
      @VegemiteQueen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      "how's school? what's your favourite class? Okay it was fun babysitting you, bye!"
      Yeah I would personally have called the cops not only if that was my child, but if I were aware of that going on, ever. I wonder if the parents were a little TOO open minded? Not to blame the victims, but I do question them just.. Telling Jeremy to stay away?

    • @gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476
      @gaslight.gatekeep.girlboss6476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@VegemiteQueen1 literally

    • @lm3950
      @lm3950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@VegemiteQueen1 For real. I haven't done much babysitting since starting college, but the summer before my sophomore year of college I babysat an 11 year old girl. We would cook/bake together, watch 5 minute crafts, do our nails, and she would go over to her neighbor friends house while I stayed behind and played with the family cat. When she came back, I'd ask her what they did and she'd say they played spa or something. Willingly hanging out with a child when you aren't babysitting or related to them is weird as hell. You have nothing in common (and shouldn't, really!)

    • @dyamondwomack549
      @dyamondwomack549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      VegemiteQueen1 I’m only 14 but dating a 12 year old seems sick as well

    • @Cardenas50zz58
      @Cardenas50zz58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Minecraft

  • @Shellyshocked
    @Shellyshocked 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I remember being 11/12 yrs old. I was a troubled kid with an abusive child hood and I didn't go around hurting others. Just because the brain isn't fully developed doesn't mean she didn't know it was wrong to kill someone.

  • @azazazz099
    @azazazz099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    wow love how their first thought was “omg i won’t have a life anymore i’m going to jail and i’ll never marry :(“ like they didn’t just take those opportunities away from her younger brother and parents..

  • @Mcknzjh
    @Mcknzjh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +732

    I understand that that the police allowed them to write letters back and forth to hopefully get more evidence against them, but it honesty just baffles me that no one actually tried to stop a relationship between a 13 year old and a 24 year old while they were incarcerated. I feel like a no contact should have been put in place as that relationship was completely inappropriate.

    • @ayansaid788
      @ayansaid788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Actually once her parents found out that she was dating Jeremy they did everything to keep him away but she still found ways to be with him. The fact that she wanted to go into the foster care system is disturbing because she was lucky to have a loving and dedicated family compared to those in the system who have parents who abused and were traumatized. She is sick and evil.

    • @Mcknzjh
      @Mcknzjh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ayansaid788 I’m aware that her parents tried to stop the relationship, that’s not what I was saying at all. I was stating that the police and justice system seriously screwed up by letting a 13 year old and a 24 year old continue a inappropriate relationship after they were both arrested and in jail to the point where they got engaged.

    • @ayansaid788
      @ayansaid788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Mcknzjh yeah I see what your saying that no one arrested him for being with a minor is disgusting. If the Canadian justice system arrested Jeremy then her family would be alive its devastating what Jeremy and Jasmine did.

    • @jadeeliss
      @jadeeliss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the medicine hat police department is absolute dog shit, cant expect them to do literally anything

    • @veruschkadahmer1805
      @veruschkadahmer1805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At this point I don't think that it was really important... Everything had been done. It wouldn't have changed anything to the situation

  • @sophiaisabelle01
    @sophiaisabelle01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3314

    I personally think that Jasmine should’ve gotten life in prison as well. However, I also understand the fact that she was technically still a minor when the murders were committed, and she was given another shot at life. I just hope that Jasmine would never reoffend. What she had done to her own family was already gruesome enough. Thanks for this video, Hailey! You sure are one-of-a-kind.

    • @HSMLover2414
      @HSMLover2414 2 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      Minors don’t have the brain development to truly grasp the consequences of their actions. As the adult, he “boyfriend” (*cough* abuser *cough*) should have stopped her. If she was an adult and felt like she wanted to live with her boyfriend, say 18, she could’ve made the dumb decision to move out instead of killing her family. Like in her 13 year old mind, killing them was the only option. Which is why she didn’t get life; she wasn’t and was not able to be in the right mind. She was engaging in shit she had no business being apart of because she was 12-13 years old.
      Her parents should’ve been more involved from the beginning (a drastic change in appearance is a red flag) and called the police on this MAN who requests child porn from a child.

    • @violetspersonalaccount.2344
      @violetspersonalaccount.2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      Personally, I really think that she was a victim as well. She was being groomed by a guy twice her age, she was just barely going through puberty, and she allowed herself to be manipulated by this guy. So I think her sentencing was enough, it also gave her the chance to get therapy and realize that Jeremy was just a creep and a predator.
      Alot of people say age isn't an excuse, and in some cases that's right. (people like James Charles for instance) any allegations that came out about him came out when he was an adult. 18+, so the 'he was young' excuse doesn't really work for him.
      but people like jasmine, she was still in middle (and in some places 7th grade is actually still considered elementary school). I think she just loved the idea that an older guy was into her, and would do anything to keep him.

    • @loveptv
      @loveptv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      She was a victim too though.

    • @ollieskater9397
      @ollieskater9397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@loveptv okay? she doesn’t need another shot, the people that she killed ain’t getting another chance at life.

    • @beavermustang5089
      @beavermustang5089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I think she was probably Manipulated, 12 years old, You don't think as clearly as an adult, Kids are very easy to manipulate and make horrible life regretting choices. It's kinda sad because when she gets older she would probably regret what she did for the rest of her life.

  • @candace9560
    @candace9560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    I find it interesting how they planned a murder bc they were so in love but once the police gets involved suddenly they blame each other! Like wtf?! Like my mom use to tell me the devil doesn’t play fair smh.

    • @Daddywiseclussy
      @Daddywiseclussy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Sounds like he was just her "escape with benefits"

    • @plamenpenkov5054
      @plamenpenkov5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I have heard that she was thinking about that before she met this boy.afther she start dating him things goes even more worse.i hear that she is a teacher now.

    • @sweetbunny3334
      @sweetbunny3334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@plamenpenkov5054 oh, that's so sad...she's a teacher? oh okay

    • @JoeyisDREADful
      @JoeyisDREADful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you've been groomed once something major happens, big enough the consequences of what's going on or the reality of the situation seeps through the effectively brainwashing and manipulation, you'll have a moment of clarity sometimes
      Or when you get distance from the abuser reality comes back.
      It's really hard to express what living under this kind of manipulation feels like it's like being in a different reality and certain things will suddenly snap you back to the real one.

    • @jeffisjeff5511
      @jeffisjeff5511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Daddywiseclussy nah because she did the same thing

  • @loki1456
    @loki1456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I don't have siblings, but my cousins and I are so close, it's basically like having brothers and a sister. I can't even contemplate accidentally hurting them, let alone premeditated murdering them. When you described Jacob's last words, it crushed my soul. I normally don't cry during these videos, but this time I started to sob. Jasmine is one of the cruelest, coldest murderers I have ever heard about during these true crime cases.

  • @Freakydeakyslay
    @Freakydeakyslay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    I cannot imagine a 12 year old doing this. When I was 12 I was watching TH-cam videos about American girl dolls and minecraft lol. I have a sister who is a similar age and I cannot imagine her doing this. I was getting into the “emo” scene back in middle school, but I never talked to older guys or pretended to be another age on the net. This case is just so shocking and sickening.

    • @NAME-yg8sl
      @NAME-yg8sl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My friend had a bf at 12 in HIGHSCHOOL (he was like 14/5). I told her it was weird and she should stop, another friend said it was weird and she should stop. We were the only ones saying that. believe

    • @sweetbunny3334
      @sweetbunny3334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When i was 12 i was playing with barbies, I'm 18 now and omg?? this world is so weird and so cruel, she was 12 but she was informed that doing that was bad...I would never date someone younger or even older than me.

    • @DaloWrld
      @DaloWrld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sweetbunny3334 it’s crazy how ppl can do these things, I couldn’t imagine

    • @emanuel5944
      @emanuel5944 ปีที่แล้ว

      i was playing roblox and i was outside with my sister or we would go to the park near our house and stuff at that age

  • @beth-bi9yv
    @beth-bi9yv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Jeremy was second degree cousins to me. I never met or knew him or any of his family. I still remember my aunt and her family having police stationed with them the days following this massacre because they weren't sure if her and her boyfriend would seek out other family members.
    It is insane. I cannot imagine the pain and betrayal her parents and brother went through in their final moments.

    • @a.p.5342
      @a.p.5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      That’s crazy. I agree. I just think about how when her mother birthed her and they were more than likely crying with joy while holding Jasmine. Not even knowing the baby in their arms is gonna be responsible for their deaths and the death of their younger son only 12 years later.

    • @Roaco_83
      @Roaco_83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    • @angellike4344
      @angellike4344 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've never heard the phrase "second degree cousin". I assume it's the same as a second cousin. Lol sorry, I just found that interesting.

    • @_flowerfluff_9215
      @_flowerfluff_9215 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can I ask if it was true that Jeremy had FAS or fetal alcohol syndrome ?

  • @Beccalb818
    @Beccalb818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The parents did everything they could. They just wanted her to be safe :(

  • @mirachan9217
    @mirachan9217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Apparently what they’ve been up to; Jeremy changed his name in prison. Her friend Kacy was actually charged with obstruction and got one year of house arrest as part of a plea. Jasmine has been to university. Jasmine was in a psychiatric hospital for four years before going to university. Then she spent four more years under supervision while she was at college. That was in a different town so she’s probably still there.
    If anyone was wondering what they were up to those are the most recent events. I’m not sure why she didn’t include them in the video. ^^;;;

    • @franklinmaputla281
      @franklinmaputla281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I hope the murders haunt her for life!!!

    • @rochellekramer2080
      @rochellekramer2080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is there a book about the case

    • @a.p.5342
      @a.p.5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@rochellekramer2080 Absolutely. It’s called Runaway Devil. It’s a very detailed book of before the murders and after the murders. I highly recommend. It’s the best factual publication out there about this case.

    • @rayne9037
      @rayne9037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Wow. I can’t even afford university but this gruesome murderer was allowed to go. Messed up….

  • @classytacos9855
    @classytacos9855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Even if she was just a child, she knew what she was doing. Kids don't do that type of stuff.

  • @lilgreenleafx
    @lilgreenleafx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Just wanted to add that I remember exactly when this all happened. I lived a street down from them, her brother went to my school. I remember my mum being brought into the office that morning and telling her what happened, as we just transferred due to moving there a couple months prior. Thank you for bringing light to this. Haven’t finished the video yet but if anyone is interested in this case, there’s a book called Runaway Devil which included interviews and journal entries from Jazmine

    • @ShreddedKleenex
      @ShreddedKleenex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My family was actually questioned in connection to this case since I have the same last name as the boyfriend and I live in a city not far from Medicine Hat! No relation though. Scary stuff

  • @miriamruiz-diaz7656
    @miriamruiz-diaz7656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    this story made me cry. as a older sister with a younger brother i could not imagine hurting my brother at all

  • @slowedsev
    @slowedsev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    u just said her biggest idols at 8:10 and i audibly screamed “OH NOOOO”

    • @dukstedi
      @dukstedi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yao, same. ffs!

    • @caseysays20
      @caseysays20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same I was like “Oh god no!”

    • @irlANG3L
      @irlANG3L 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly, definitely a bad sign

    • @mizzlegend1
      @mizzlegend1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@irlANG3L nah Marilyn Manson was my idol and I didn't kill my family and I'm 23 and family still alive

    • @remmi5177
      @remmi5177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok honestly i'm into things like that, but i have and would never think or act on hurting my family :(

  • @roser6963
    @roser6963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    At 12 years old I hadn’t even kissed a boy. I was still riding my bike to the public library every weekend. This story is just insane. I cannot wrap my head around it. That girl is just plain evil. She should’ve been in prison for the rest of her life. She may have not killed her parents but it was her idea and she’s the one who kept talking that pos boyfriend into it.

    • @MJBABYPHAT
      @MJBABYPHAT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I feel like she did kill her brother though.

    • @stardustdemon8273
      @stardustdemon8273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And that boyfriend was 23 he should have never dated her in the first place. He’s a pedo.

    • @cheery-hex
      @cheery-hex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      100%!

    • @deborahc4111
      @deborahc4111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Jeremy was the one who brought up murders and killing in their emails tho? also a 12 years old child may talk about murder but in my opinion she wouldn't have gone through it if Jeremy had not encouraged her and helped her plan things out

    • @sweetcherrieszz9511
      @sweetcherrieszz9511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@deborahc4111 she talked about it as well did you not watch the video??? I cannot excuse the fact she was a victim but there is no excuse to get not time in prison sentenced to mental hospital for slitting your brothers throat. I will never sympathize with her 😐

  • @arella-naomi2291
    @arella-naomi2291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    honestly i feel sick, this whole case is so disgusting. i have no words, but you did a really good job explaining this.

  • @jdtz
    @jdtz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was groomed when I was younger. I can't help but feel emotional when I realize that I could've ended up like this. It's utterly disgusting that there are still people like this in the world.

    • @torievictoria
      @torievictoria 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for this. It's probably the most thoughtful comment I've seen here. I wish we could explain why people come through abuse in such different ways, and I hope you give yourself credit for having grown into someone better than what was done to you.

  • @saiyauniverse3816
    @saiyauniverse3816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    I'm 12 and I have no idea why someone would do that. She was being groomed by a 23 year old and was minipulated into hurting her family. Its so sad
    Im so upset for Jacob too :(

    • @dukstedi
      @dukstedi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      the lure of being appreciated or loved by someone can make ppl do crazy things. you’re young. stay sharp! lotta creepos out there!😌

    • @Addie-dh1qd
      @Addie-dh1qd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      Groomed? Yes. Manipulated…not so much. She wanted them to be gone and saw Jeremy as her perfect opportunity to do so.

    • @LunarShimmer
      @LunarShimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Be careful. If you really are young then I'd avoid saying exact digits or even alluding to how old you are. Stay safe and always remember to think about who might be behind the screen. This whole thing sounds like what nearly happened to me, except fortunately my parents were able to cut me off from the guy before anything really awful happened.

    • @krysivory493
      @krysivory493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Wait. Who manipulates who?
      This girl is plain evil.
      He's just the devil's advocate.

    • @katelynnoel2191
      @katelynnoel2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      stay safe and alert!!! don’t talk to strangers

  • @katelynbrown98
    @katelynbrown98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I completely agree with you. I don't think a community should allow a crime to be a notorious attraction. They absolutely need to bulldoze the house.

  • @Em_1101
    @Em_1101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    As a Canadian citizen, I grew up being told this case. I was 4 when it happened but probably 9 when I was told/heard about it. my opinion changed a lot since then even after being taught about Youth Criminal Justice Act (YCJA) in grade 9. I do like the YCJA but I think jasmine should have been charged as an adult. I understand she was groomed and was probably gaslighted. but that doesn't change my thoughts and opinions.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The problem is there is no inbetween it’s either a super short sentence or life

    • @MeganAllen1738
      @MeganAllen1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Exactly, a normal 12 year old, even a groomed one, doesn't & wouldn't orchestrate the murder of their parents & innocent younger sibling. Run away? Yes. But not murder. She's just as much of a monster as he is.

    • @miwfreak4312
      @miwfreak4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MeganAllen1738 thank you! She had to have a dark mind herself

    • @cheery-hex
      @cheery-hex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pleaseshutup7053 not really. she could have been sentenced without parole until age 30 or 35. then on parole another 10, she got off scot free

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cheery-hex 20 years is a long time

  • @AngelicRamen
    @AngelicRamen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    There has to be a way for people to talk about this man without calling him her boyfriend. She was a groomed child. It wasn't a 'relationship' it was abuse of a minor.

    • @alexforce9
      @alexforce9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      if she constatly trying to get in contact with him, and is VERY proactive , its kinda hard to se it as an abuse.

    • @tiaslays255
      @tiaslays255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexforce9 Stockholm syndrome.

    • @tiaslays255
      @tiaslays255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@alexforce9 also their brains are not developed. Just because he didn’t hit her doesn’t make it not abuse. It’s psychological abuse. To date a child whose brain isn’t even Developed?? Like can you even hear yourself rn lol she was a CHILD.

    • @alexforce9
      @alexforce9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tiaslays255 First of all - Stockholm syndrome is a rare psychological reaction. Its not something that happens every time someone is abused or held captive. Just think about all the cases of abducted people and if they develop it. No. Second - the guy was telling people he is werewolf! How mature do you think he was? And she knew how old he is from the beginning, and made a choice to date him. Made a choice to find ways to talk with him despite her parents forbidding it. Made a choice to plan their murders. She made a bunch of choices that a normal 12 years old kid would never do. Yes, even "abused" one.

    • @Loveandlighttvjade
      @Loveandlighttvjade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@alexforce9 she's 12, a child, we children are dumb and not as smart as adults

  • @SummerAlleriaWindrunner
    @SummerAlleriaWindrunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    She killed the people who REALLY loved her for some stranger who wanted to use her. I hope she is forever alone as a consequence.

  • @xKiittyWhitex
    @xKiittyWhitex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I noticed in the comments people keep saying she brought up killing her family, which she did, but, he was the initial person to bring up murdering people. Was it that he 'misses killing people.' And that 'they should kill people together'? Whether he was just being edgy or not, it planted a seed in her brain. And both with her having mental issues as well as being that young, it clearly resonated with her, and killing her family suddenly became an option to ber. Both are to blame completely, I just wanted to reiterate that fact that he for some reason brought up killing people in the first place, for whatever damn reason

    • @miwfreak4312
      @miwfreak4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's not supposed to be that easy to be convinced to kill someone. This is literally the unthinkable. 12 year Olds know this. Even ones with mental health issues.its inexcusable

    • @deborahc4111
      @deborahc4111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@miwfreak4312 yes 23 years olds with fully developed brains definitely should know this, way more than any 12 years olds

    • @a.p.5342
      @a.p.5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No he didn’t. She did. If you read the book Runaway Devil which is the very detailed book on this case it’s very evident and clear that Jasmine is the one who wanted this to begin with. She had been getting tired of her parents not letting her hang out with older guys. She grew tired and frustrated with them. She wanted them dead before she “dated” Jeremy.

    • @miwfreak4312
      @miwfreak4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deborahc4111 i can't believe yall are defending her tbh. She killed her younger brother. Like, dude... I don't care if she was groomed. Not anymore. She's evil

  • @ccamilacedeno
    @ccamilacedeno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I know she was a kid, and she was definitely groomed but that definitely doesn’t excuse her actions, 12 year olds aren’t babies they def know better than to brutally murder someone, especially your own family.

    • @allisongirl6001
      @allisongirl6001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 12 you’re almost an adult. I understand it’s still a child of course but I’m 21 and at 16 I was an adult

    • @Zitronen_
      @Zitronen_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you. I see people defending her because she was groomed. I'm 13 and I very _very_ obviously know that murdering your family is absolutely disgusting and awful.

    • @rabbiteen17
      @rabbiteen17 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@allisongirl6001 girl that’s you tho 😭 i’m 16 and i am a child, 12 is most definitely not “almost an adult”

    • @allisongirl6001
      @allisongirl6001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rabbiteen17 girl calling yourself a child at SIXTEEN and then putting that in the same sentence about a 12 year old isn’t honestly just so creepy. No 16 year old has anything in common with a 12 year old child.

    • @silvergust
      @silvergust 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@allisongirl6001I don't think u understood their point. no one is saying 12 and 16 are at the same maturity level, but 12 and 16 are not "almost adults" and that can be considered a creepy thing to say too. they are still children in the eyes of the law and psychologically

  • @samih5916
    @samih5916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +455

    I've heard about this case before and it's just shocking and heartbreaking of what happened to the Richardson Family.
    Also Jeremy could have prevented the murder but he chose not to.
    Could you cover the case about Jordan Davis Hailey? He's a 17 year old teenage boy who gunned down at a gas station in Jacksonville, Florida the day after thanksgiving in 2012 over loud music.

    • @and-9552
      @and-9552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes please!!!

    • @MrGFloyd
      @MrGFloyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’m just so confused why she was dating that dude, she was pretty and he was fugly. I don’t get it at all

    • @samih5916
      @samih5916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MrGFloyd I know right, she should have dated a guy around her age and her parents are right of not approving her relationship with Jeremy.

    • @mrmosbyslefttit
      @mrmosbyslefttit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MrGFloyd I read a comment of someone saying "probably the only male attention she got" pair that with the fact that she possibly felt so "mature" for dating an older man, and the fact that it's forbidden (borderline illegal) must've felt real "cool" or rebellious

    • @Afterglow_333
      @Afterglow_333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      JCS covered that case!

  • @sheesh7970
    @sheesh7970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    i just turned 13, and i myself could never ever imagine being with someone almost twice my age and killing my family to be with them. “jasmine” should’ve gotten life and what she did to her brother was just so unforgivable. i have a younger brother too and yeah i get mad at him but i couldn’t imagine hurting him. i have no idea what the hell she was thinking but i hope she gets what she deserves bc karma comes back to bite you where the sun don’t shine.

    • @rockhistoria2537
      @rockhistoria2537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I myself am currently 13 (will turn 14 on the next Saturday), with an little brother and say that with experience Jasmine was definitely not a normal 12 year old, much less mentally well person

  • @sekitsui8861
    @sekitsui8861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    medicine hat was my hometown, and growing up i heard about this case over and over. apparently jasmine is now living in Edmonton under a whole new identity. I think it's disgusting and she should've been locked up for life

    • @mb13.0
      @mb13.0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      med hat is also my hometown and i’m still hearing about this story, it’s still so insane to me

  • @wa_daxm162
    @wa_daxm162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    Thank you for making this video. I heard about the girl last year and wanted to learn more but forgot. So now I know more, thank you again 😊✨

    • @fatielmhami1505
      @fatielmhami1505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YOUR PFP

    • @magvs_mæstro216
      @magvs_mæstro216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @80sfangirly
      @80sfangirly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fellow dylan fan how are u

    • @Ineffable67
      @Ineffable67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not sure if you can access it, but I read a book about her called Runaway Devil

    • @wa_daxm162
      @wa_daxm162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@80sfangirly I am good thank you, I just woke up. How are you?

  • @smilesrobotlover1546
    @smilesrobotlover1546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    This makes me sick. Jeremy and Jasmine acting all lovey covey when she was only 12 and murdering her parents and sweet little brother because she was groomed by a disgusting man. Gosh this is so heartbreaking and so disgusting

  • @nonchalantsavagery
    @nonchalantsavagery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    The story about the kid is extremely heartbreaking it’s just terrible

  • @paspiacente
    @paspiacente 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    whoever killed the boy should be rotting in jail .
    The fact she was 12yo doesn't make her less guilty.
    I hope the parents can rest in peace and the little boy is now playing with angels.

  • @elle8081
    @elle8081 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This case is what took my rosy colored glasses off. I was 15. My mom was watching her many true crime shows and I just happened to pop in on this one. She held me as I sobbed. The brother is what got me. Stilllll gets me to this day. I still say a little prayer/sweet thoughts/vibes/light and energy to their souls.

  • @kaylalewis5876
    @kaylalewis5876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I love these your really good at telling crime stories without making it boring

  • @freebird-dana8829
    @freebird-dana8829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    Yes, she should have gotten life. She had the idea and made sure it was followed through. While I realize she was a victim of his being that he was grooming her, he became her victim in her horrible murder plan. He wouldn't have killed them if she hadn't pushed for it. Just my opinion of course.

    • @fawnresponse
      @fawnresponse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      No he’s not victim at all

    • @huh_rinii
      @huh_rinii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      he’s definitely not a victim but yes, i agree she should have gotten life

    • @Ineffable67
      @Ineffable67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @Tatum McKenzie the fact that he bragged to an undercover cop after already "confessing" that he thought what he did was wrong means that he wasn't the victim. He played a victim to seem sympathetic. That's what pedophiles do.

    • @huh_rinii
      @huh_rinii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @Tatum McKenzie in what way is he a victim? he is an adult with a fully developed brain and he has the ability to tell right between wrong. On top of that, he showed no remorse for his actions and was only worried about protecting himself. I don’t see how he’s a victim in this situation.

    • @mrmosbyslefttit
      @mrmosbyslefttit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@huh_riniiyeah and he also kinda helped make it seem as though her plan was fine, so if she was pushing it was because in the beginning instead of his fully developed brain going "woah calm down" he said yeah, can't wait.

  • @kaylalaufeyson8828
    @kaylalaufeyson8828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    The title made my jaw DROP. TWELVE AND TWENTY THREE? Poor girl was groomed.

    • @inkubator320
      @inkubator320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      It’s also concerning how….she murdered her family. In cold blood

    • @MeganAllen1738
      @MeganAllen1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      She was certainly groomed but she's not a "poor girl." Most victims of grooming attempt to run away with their groomer, or fight for their right to stay with them, not kill their parents & little brother. She's a monster I have no sympathy for.

    • @NAME-yg8sl
      @NAME-yg8sl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MeganAllen1738 I feel bad for her. But regardless she is a bad person, nothing is an excuse to do such a crime.

    • @meaganhuband329
      @meaganhuband329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This happened where I grew up and there's a book called runaway devil that gives further context

    • @miwfreak4312
      @miwfreak4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MeganAllen1738 no not at all. Killing your younger brother especially takes something dark within you. She was 12, young yes but not young enough for that to me acceptable.

  • @taniellepresley4817
    @taniellepresley4817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s crazy to hear this story still being told! I lived here when this happened and things have never been the same. A family did buy the Richardson house and lives there now, but I agree they should have definitely burned it down.
    I’m so glad I found your channel girl - I’m obsessed with your videos!

  • @maramarquez6988
    @maramarquez6988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    She gets to change her name? At 12 years old u know right from wrong! And she definitely knew what she was doing.. In my opinion she should have got life..

  • @theresanoelle
    @theresanoelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I have recently seen another video about this case but decided to watch yours anyway because I had a feeling I would learn information that was not in the previous video I saw and sure enough I was right. What I really like about your videos is the research you put into finding out about the life of the victims and who they were as individuals. It's a nice show of compassion and its why you and Kendall rae are my favorite channels to watch for this kind of stuff because you take the time to put focus on the victims instead of just covering the facts of the incident

    • @franklinmaputla281
      @franklinmaputla281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will check out Kendall Rae channel

    • @br3880
      @br3880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      bet you’d also like stephanie harlowe!

    • @mumtazamiri6409
      @mumtazamiri6409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have to, it's part of the show. Otherwise they'd lose their audience. 😄😄😄😄

    • @caseymariedaniels6941
      @caseymariedaniels6941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She is definitely awesome for sure!!!! so is Christina Randell you should check her out also!

    • @bugs6634
      @bugs6634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. Ballen and Bailey Sarian do similar videos!! i highly recommend them:)

  • @user-rt8hl4rp4k
    @user-rt8hl4rp4k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I'm an older sister to 3 siblings, and while they get on my last nerve alot of the time, I would never ever even think of doing such a horrible thing. I love my siblings alot and I hate it when people hurt them or their feelings, so I can't even imagine doing something so cruel myself. She's not only a horrible person but also a horrible child and horrible sister. Her duty as his sister was to protect him no matter what and she killed him instead.

    • @gachaiichabi2529
      @gachaiichabi2529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True I have a younger sister she is also annoying but i love her so much ..I would do anything to protect my sister, I don't know how jasmine killed her brother like it's even insane to think about it ..

  • @booksndiscourse
    @booksndiscourse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This happened in my city and is still talked about often to this day. I’m glad you made this video as you always do such a good and respectful job with them.

  • @skakspehoe4597
    @skakspehoe4597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ngl i started crying when she talked about the little brother. i have a younger brother and imagining him in that situation breaks my heart. that kid had so much ahead of him and it all ended so fast

  • @laughingcorrpseholly4136
    @laughingcorrpseholly4136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What happened to this family is SO heartbreaking...I just wanna cry. That poor little boy holding a light saber to protect himself and saying he was too young to die BROKE MY HEART!! Such horrible people omgoodness....I am so sorry for this family and all the other families out there who have been through something similar.

  • @kaderburns8827
    @kaderburns8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This happened a few blocks from my dads house.
    There is a really good book about the case as well called runaway devil.
    Thanks for covering this story !

  • @bubbiewubbiee
    @bubbiewubbiee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    this story was so said.. especially with the little brother. i can’t imagine his pain and confusion ..

    • @jadeeliss
      @jadeeliss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and the brothers friend that found them

  • @RainenStar2264
    @RainenStar2264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is so sad, her little brother and parents didn’t deserve this…that was so terrible, rest in piece…i hope they found piece now

    • @ayansaid788
      @ayansaid788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ikr imagine being awoken at 4 am to your daughter holding a knife and a 23 year old creep high/drunk coming at with a knife every parents worst nightmare having your life brutally taken by your child. This is nature over nurture.

  • @Snoppapa
    @Snoppapa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My heart broke when you described how jacob was huddled up with a light saber crying. That poor little baby

  • @noididntlmao
    @noididntlmao ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You know someone's immature when they say one of their idols is Jeffery Dahmer lmaoooooo

  • @Mentallymuzz
    @Mentallymuzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m obsessed with ur channel thank you for posting and helping a broke college student get through their work

  • @MeganAllen1738
    @MeganAllen1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1161

    I cannot imagine my 11/12 year old self dating a 23 year old man. I'm horrified at the fact that any adult would date someone that young & vulnerable.

    • @daniellelopez3342
      @daniellelopez3342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      This shit happens all the time. I remember when I was like 14/15 I used to date men in their mid 20s. It's like they know who to target (vulnerable victims of abuse and other stuff) I remember thinking it was so normal at the time (because i was mature for my age) but now I realize how much trauma those relationships caused me.

    • @MeganAllen1738
      @MeganAllen1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@daniellelopez3342 I'm so sorry😞 society needs to do more to warn young girls about the dangers of these relationships instead of just shaming them. The ones who should be shamed are the men. The fact that people continue to communicate with men who date teenage girls instead of shunning them is appalling to me. Society needs to make sure that men know these actions are unacceptable & not to be tolerated.

    • @hitomichan7
      @hitomichan7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree with you big time

    • @jeffisjeff5511
      @jeffisjeff5511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MeganAllen1738 they need to warn both young girls and boys about this so adult men and women wouldn’t manipulate them.

    • @lanadelreysalways
      @lanadelreysalways 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I used to find even 15 year olds scary

  • @najaemin1613
    @najaemin1613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    her parents really did seem so lovely :(

  • @kerl0691
    @kerl0691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    WHY DID I START CACKLING WHEN HE DROVE OFF WITHOUT HER

    • @a.p.5342
      @a.p.5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      She deserved it. She got to be alone in the house where her now dead family were in and she was alone with their bodies. In the book written about this case called Runaway Devil she called a cab to take her to Jeremy’s home. The taxi cab responder described they received a call from a girl that sounded distressed & was whimpering.

  • @Angela-ic6zb
    @Angela-ic6zb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Someone in the comments said
    "she got another shot at life." Nonsense! As if she even deserved it. The ppl she killed won't get another shot at life, they did not deserve to be killed. not one bit.
    The fact that her brother said "I'm scared, I'm to young to die" broke my heart. Overall, Jasmine was not deserving of a another shot at life. I think she should have stayed in prison for more than just 10 years regardless of her age.

  • @underthesea713
    @underthesea713 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Her parents actually cared about her and tried to help, and the little brother… I don’t know how she did that. I have a younger brother myself so that part hit really close to home, absolutely heartbreaking.

  • @tonycruz2939
    @tonycruz2939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Jasmine and I were born in the same year, I'm glad I didn't use social media or email during that age 😅,, what a depressing story 😔 but I like it bc it brings awareness to parents to really monitor your children and who they are talking to.

  • @sunoo6332
    @sunoo6332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    She should've gotten a lot more time in prison. Knowing well or not, she brought up the idea of murdering her family, Jeremy just agreed. If they would've never met, she probably would've done it herself because sure he brought a little bit of fuel to the fire, but Jasmine still got into many fights with her parents and got angry with them quite frequently. All I know is in my opinion, Jasmine being free currently does not sit right with me after what she did to that poor young boy. Rest In Peace.

    • @petradeffenbaugh4599
      @petradeffenbaugh4599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i mean every teen fights w their parents. his grooming def had some role in this

  • @lenegelbe-hauen9009
    @lenegelbe-hauen9009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    The question is if she would've done it on her own. I mean making plans is one thing but following it through is something completely different
    Jeremy being 23 and dating a 12 y/o is the actual creepy thing 🙃🙃

    • @idk-gy8ds
      @idk-gy8ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      tbh i doubt she would have. she probably only had the confidence to carry out the plan because of her adult boyfriend who could get her parents for her

    • @MeganAllen1738
      @MeganAllen1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@idk-gy8ds the thing about it is, she didn't go "OMG, I hate my parents so much, let's run away together," like most young people who are in a relationship with someone their parents don't approve of say, she actually came up with, orchestrated & followed through with a plan to brutally murder her family. I don't doubt that she (& her groomer) would've ended up killing even if they hadn't met each other. She was already showing too much interest in the opposite sex at such a young age, eventually she would be engaging in some activities that her parents would disappove of & she'd have a different reason to kill them.

    • @idk-gy8ds
      @idk-gy8ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MeganAllen1738 yeah i def see what ur saying. she was definetly unstable and dangerous im just saying that hurting your parents like that seems like a way better idea when u have a way bigger and stronger boyfriend

  • @karadrader9610
    @karadrader9610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I live in Medicine Hat, born and raised. I’m the same age as Jeremy and met him a handful of times (it’s a small city and you tend to have connections to.. everyone). He was very much a lost soul, would go from one friend group to another, from one school to another until he dropped out altogether. For a while he tried fitting in with the jocks, the punks, the druggies, and eventually scraped the bottom of the barrel and got deep into the occult group. He was that way for years before he met Jasmine. I didn’t know him very well, but I did know his sister, and I still feel sorry for her too. And that poor Richardson family. As far as I’m aware, the Richardson house is still empty. I’ve always had a gut feeling that he never would have hurt anyone if he hadn’t gotten wrapped up in that relationship with Jasmine.

  • @juliet5413
    @juliet5413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Found out about this case on instagram and got hooked. I’m 26; I remember being 12 vividly. I knew right from wrong 100%. She deserved at least the 25 years Jeremy qualified for.

  • @katelynnoel2191
    @katelynnoel2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i have a younger stepbrother, he’s 5, and i’ve known him for a year. i barely see him, maybe once a month IF THAT, i can’t even stomach the thought of doing something like that. it’s horrific

  • @10tenore90
    @10tenore90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    “Jeremy was a lil creep so he didn’t really stop anyone” LOL

  • @Tillythedevine
    @Tillythedevine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    26:29 and 30:40 - :'-(
    What a messed up story.
    The beginning of Jasmine's descent into becoming a soulless husk reminded me of myself at age 11. Something was going wrong in my head, we had moved recently and I was homeschooled in a religious fundamentalist family and I was in the throes of puberty.. I was talking to adult men on aol instant messenger lying about my age. Feeling oh so oppressed. Would pretty much do anything for a boy who paid attention to me. I'm so glad my parents figured it out AND watched as I typed up an apology email to these strange men telling them my actual age, then they moved the family computer into the kitchen.
    It doesn't sound like Jasmine's parents were even particularly strict. For 11/12 years old it sounds like she had more freedoms than many kids with "strict" parents.
    Honestly a trait in teenagers I feel like you have to watch out for is *how far from their own morals and principals* they will go for other people (friends or love interests). That isn't loyalty, that is having zero self-esteem.

    • @leopardface1
      @leopardface1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's no way those older men did not suspect that you were younger than you were saying as well. I'm really glad nothing really sinister happened to you but I'm sure this had an effect on you, so I'm sorry you went through that. And agreed, people who don't consider themselves worthy will often do anything for just an ounce of validation and it's really sad.

  • @Yippee-k4u
    @Yippee-k4u ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m uncomfortably crying because of Jacob’s death he was so young he didn’t deserve that

  • @sarahparrish7206
    @sarahparrish7206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    as an older sister listening to the description of jacobs death hurt so much. i can't possibly imagine allowing that to happen to any of my siblings, let alone trying to kill them myself. especially over a boy, but i'm an adult with an adult brain, i want to feel bad for her for being a victim of grooming, but it sounds like she did a lot of the legwork... frustrating that she's free.

  • @nectar2153
    @nectar2153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This case hurts my heart, I REMBER listening to a podcast about this and then watching this video just re-sparked that memory. I love your videos but the things that happen are so sad :((

  • @aquariussolaris2492
    @aquariussolaris2492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    My fellow goth girls and women:
    Stay away from those "musician" types

  • @pleaseshutup7053
    @pleaseshutup7053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    How do the dudes friends and band mates do nothing when he starts dating a freakin 12 Year Old

    • @MeganAllen1738
      @MeganAllen1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I hate to say this, but a lot of men will not speak up or do anything if they see one of their friends doing something like that. There are some men that would cut him off, but I suspect his friends didn't care because she did "consent" & he "wasn't hurting her" or "age is just a number" or something along those lines, especially since she looked older than she actually was. Men often excuse, enable or turn a blind eye to the disgusting, predatory behavior of other men because they think it would be too much hassle or drama to speak up.

    • @sabreenasnow119
      @sabreenasnow119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dating underage girls was quite common in the punk rock scene at the time

    • @bohkhuj9247
      @bohkhuj9247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sabreenasnow119 12 years old tho !!! That’s a damn child

    • @Ginknee666
      @Ginknee666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sabreenasnow119 I was a 16 yr old hanging out with 27 yr old dudes in the punk scene. I still think about how weird that was.

    • @allisongirl6001
      @allisongirl6001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sabreenasnow119 underage is not the right word. That’s like saying a 20 year old guy can’t date a 17 year old girl but a 40 year old can’t date a 19 year old girl

  • @chassandell1564
    @chassandell1564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As someone who has two baby sisters and hearing the little brother's emotions and actions. God my heart hurts ):

  • @nahhanilacasse6186
    @nahhanilacasse6186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its so weird hearing about cases that happened literally like an hour from where I live yet had never heard of. amazing work!!!

  • @onceupon3805
    @onceupon3805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    It is very likely Jasmine was sexually abused, and that this is why she radically changed both her appearance and behavior in such a short time. It's very common for victims of sexual assault to try to change everything about themselves because they think it will deter future attacks. Becoming promiscuous is another usual response in the aftermath of a sexual assault. For some girls (and women), this makes them feel in control temporarily - i.e. if they initiate sexual encounters, they won't be forced upon them. Puberty doesn't explain much about her behavior at all. Jasmine's level of rage also speaks to having been traumatized. Not saying there weren't other factors in the culmination of this whole grisly tale, I'm betting there were. Sigh, what a terrible story. Thank you :^)

    • @sOofiiexD
      @sOofiiexD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes ! That sounds like a good explanation, I was trying to figure out why a 12 year old was acting like this like a young adult and not like a normal 12 year old… surely something happened to her

    • @cloverbuddyscorner
      @cloverbuddyscorner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      idk if you guys have ever met 12 year old girls, but sometimes they do just act like that. esp if jasmine was a good kid from a good family, its not unlikely that she felt bored, trapped, or limited. she could have even just wanted to see what would happen if she started pushing the limits that her parents had set for her.

    • @sOofiiexD
      @sOofiiexD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cloverbuddyscorner idk for me it’s super weird that a 11/12 year old starts behaving like that, maybe 13/14 but 11?????? It’s unbelievable for me

    • @taytayluvr
      @taytayluvr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sOofiiexD I’m 13 and I had that kinda of phase when I was 11 🤷‍♀️ 11 year olds aren’t actually children anymore especially with Tiktok and social media etc

    • @chelseakitkatz
      @chelseakitkatz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      idk dude. I went “emo” and edgy when I was 9-10. wasn’t sexually or physically abused. I think it’s just about how early you’re exposed to different subcultures. i knew about Jeffrey Dahmer, did heavy makeup, thought about bad shit etc