Sure wish I hadn’t flatted! Got a chuckle over you guys wondering if it was a fake drop, nope just trying to not ride the tire off! 😂, I actually had plenty of energy left so it was a bummer. Curious though, it’s enlightening to see me riding (Splunk rider to clarify), are my hips rocking too much, I felt great but man I feel like I look horrible?!
This video is a great insight into racing and it’s the right amount of length to not put me off watching, I felt like I learnt something too. Keep it up and well done on the win.
350 normalized x 15' .. that cat2 upgrade last season was well deserved Nate. congrats!! doubtful many in the pack in masters 4 could even have sat on your wheel.
My HR went up like 50bpm watching this video. Looking forward to seeing more of these videos next season. Congrats Nate for your recent upgrade to Cat 2.
noticed you upgraded after this race to Cat 3 and then won your very next race also as a newly minted 3. I think you might be figuring out this racing thing.
The thing about not riding in the break is that cycling is not that big a sport. You will likely be racing these same guys for years yet, so it helps to build a reputation as a guy who is willing to work. You help someone out this race then you are more likely to get help when you need it.
Love the videos guys. I've been binge watching during Covid to help fill the void of no racing. One note; that type of rotation (constant) with less than 5 riders is super inefficient. There are basically 2 of you in the wind at all times. Single file with longer pulls would have been better for the 3 of you at the end. This was a big one for the legend Steve Tilford :stevetilford.com/2011/03/17/two-things-that-drive-me-crazy/ -cheers
This would also relate to an MTB Short Track Race where the attacks and recovery are made along and bridging gaps. Thank you so much for the analysis on the videos. I do bet they riders for the Local Crit Bets are also watching l.
People (the pack) bust their ass up hills @:30 because they do that during every club ride. A trained response. Splunk dude rides with his head down @15:53 and goes off the road. Don't do that.
Good tactics going on. I'm not completely sold on the "sag climbing" unless you're just doing it to survive. It leaves you vulnerable to attacks at key moments of the race.
I was like geez solid heart rate at 600w+ up the climb Nate! Then I realised it was broken 😝 On a more serious note, how was the Venge? The road surface looks pretty rough in spots.
Venge was great! The new one is much more compliant than the old one. But I think it's all about the tires. 28mm tubeless at 80 PSI make he road feel a lot smoother.
Cool video. It would be great if some day these onboard cameras could be more integrated in the TV transmissions from the pro races. It makes it all so much more intense. Btw - shouldn't the title of this video be "How to miss a breakaway"? ;-)
doc zilla Nate is running Sram 11 speed e-tap! If you like this type of content, we'd recommend watching our other race analysis videos and checking out our full length Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast. As for tips for a rookie, we recommend getting your fitness where it needs to be first and foremost. If you're interested in getting faster, and increasing your FTP, well then you came to the right place :) Check us out at trainerroad.com.
That's why people ride hard up hills so they can stay close to the front and if a break goes like it did, they can be in it. Drifting back on hills can save you energy but there is a risk and price to pay for that reward. The sprint was good, I would sprint where the draft is if you do it quickly they wont be able to box you and if they do they will get DQ. You should be Racing Cat 1 or 2 :) that race looked way to easy for you. Move up! and lets see how you do.
in some nations (iirc, Australia, but I am sure there are others), folks can nominate themselves to move up categories. In many other nations, you gotta "rise through the ranks", and actually qualify each year to move up a category. Consequence is that in some nations many cat 1 riders would only be cat 2 elsewhere etc. etc. and then you get ageing riders performing not that well, and claiming they are the best in their age group etc. etc. In "qualifying category" nations, you don't get the BS'ers and the folks trading on past glories. In short, the requirements to be a rider of varying categories are NOT the same throughout the world, and the standard required to win a race of a particular category also varies between nations. Having said all that, a really good rider is still a really good rider, wherever they ride!
@@TrainerRoad I've got a Hero 7 too and it would have bounced around a lot using the GoPro bike mount on that rough road. Do you have some kind of special mount that eliminated so much of the vibration? Nice video, thanks!
Brian Darnell I used the super view function (I think that’s what it’s called). It’s the one on the hero 7 black where it makes everything super smooth.
I've won a couple of races by using this climbing method. Circuit course that we did the climb five times. It's the only way I didn't get spit off the back.
This is a mistake, it seems that the heart rate monitor was not reading properly. During any effort you will see heart rate variation, but especially in the case of a race.
“...so no one jumped on my wheel, that was mistake right?” With a teammate in the break, I was sitting in the back talking and waving to the camera as we passed the finish line...so maybe just a wee bit 👌🏼Then nobody chased, then I saw my teammate on the side of the road with a flat...🤦🏻♂️👀
Do you have a good source to break down the categories of racing? I'm in MN and can't seem to find any competitive road races. I race MTB but I'd like to dip my toe in road as well.
Garrett Millaway in NorCal there’s a district website that lists all the sanctioned races. Id find out your district website and see if they have a calendar. Good luck!
If I recall correctly back in the day all the roads were open except for Fields road and the finish hill. Folks used to get relegated for yellow line violations
Kudos for displaying kph and not just mph!! Now then majority of the world can relate 😉
Tell the folks on the other side of the pond to do the same.
One of the most informative video's I've seen about cycling in a long time. Thanks!
We're so glad you liked it! Thanks for watching :)
I can't believe I just sat through this video, and really freaking enjoyed it. Nice racing.
So glad you enjoyed it Mark! Ride on :)
Fun to watch - “from the guy in red who couldn’t be breathing any harder than a human can breathe :).”
Eamonn Tucker 😆, were you tired or is that just how you breathe? -Nate
Ha ha, I just ran across this on total accident as a recommended video. Sidewalk 😂
Thank God you said your heart rate was stuck....I was thinking you were a machine (and I'm clearly a potato). Lol great vid.
Sure wish I hadn’t flatted! Got a chuckle over you guys wondering if it was a fake drop, nope just trying to not ride the tire off! 😂, I actually had plenty of energy left so it was a bummer. Curious though, it’s enlightening to see me riding (Splunk rider to clarify), are my hips rocking too much, I felt great but man I feel like I look horrible?!
Shoot! You played it with a good poker face :-D. I had no idea.
Did you get 3rd
huntingsynth yeah, fortunately kept my tire on and held the gap! Was bummed as I had plenty of fuel, but still better than the potential dnf!
Stu Collett seems like you’re saddle may be too high, yeah hips shouldn’t move that much
Stu Your hips are rocking, I would say your saddle is definitely a bit high
This video is a great insight into racing and it’s the right amount of length to not put me off watching, I felt like I learnt something too. Keep it up and well done on the win.
Thanks for watching!
Just a quick compliment as Pete listens, thoughtfully reflects and teaches racecraft. Nate for the win!
350 normalized x 15' .. that cat2 upgrade last season was well deserved Nate. congrats!! doubtful many in the pack in masters 4 could even have sat on your wheel.
That start/finish road was horrendous. Love these videos thanks for taking the time!
So super awesome video!!! So fascinating...the speeds are crazy! I clutched onto my office chair the entire time thinking I was going to fall!!
My HR went up like 50bpm watching this video. Looking forward to seeing more of these videos next season. Congrats Nate for your recent upgrade to Cat 2.
Love these videos. I don’t even race but I’m learning so much. Nice job in the race Nate.
noticed you upgraded after this race to Cat 3 and then won your very next race also as a newly minted 3. I think you might be figuring out this racing thing.
Nate sure is moving up the ranks!
Man, you guys are strong for cat 4s
That was great. Love the race reports and race videos.
Great video - love the analysis. Congratulations on the win! Well done again!
Thanks Rich!
Damn, this is one of the best videos I've watched in a long time. Thank you 😊
Thanks so much for the praise and for watching! Check out some of our other videos. ;)
"Mutually assured destruction"...that should be the makings of a special edition Trainer Road T-shirt!
Congrats on that win! Way to catch up.
Great video mate, got my heart rate up, thought I was actually in the race.
So glad you liked it Peter! Thanks for watching :)
The thing about not riding in the break is that cycling is not that big a sport. You will likely be racing these same guys for years yet, so it helps to build a reputation as a guy who is willing to work. You help someone out this race then you are more likely to get help when you need it.
This has been in my recommended for over a week. Finally gave in and watched. I really enjoyed the commentary.
So glad you finally checked it out! We have more of these on our channel with more on the way. ;)
Really enjoying these race breakdowns.
Thanks for watching!!
Mostly been a MTB guy but these videos makes me want to try racing, makes it really interesting to hear the tactics talk.
Racing of all kinds is always interesting!
I did my first RR at Sea Otter. I've done a crit, didn't find that fun. But the RR was cool. I definitely want to do more, see how high I can cat up.
Excellent motivation for the trainer. Excellent.
solo bridge to the break then win?!! damn. see you in the p1/2’s with me & pete soon!!
That would be a whole lot harder if there was a yellow line rule.
Greg Sironen This race is one of the few closed courses in NorCal
Did my first RR on a closed road, so nice!
@@benji2261 @trainerroad so what would you recommend if there was , as most our races in Aus are opened to traffic
Nice. That was enjoyable. Good tactics.
Nice great job! Congratulations on the win!
These roads are horrible.
Amazing analyzing and details, love these vids
Thanks Mike! Glad you're liking the content :)
Great video. Love the commentary on the race strategy. The roads look horrendous. Great job on the win!
Soooo bumpy!
@@TrainerRoad And so many potholes and broken roads!
Awesome! This is so exciting! Watching the strategy take place. And learning what goes on in the mind during a race. Awesome!
So glad you like the format! We have more videos in the pipeline :)
Love the videos guys. I've been binge watching during Covid to help fill the void of no racing. One note; that type of rotation (constant) with less than 5 riders is super inefficient. There are basically 2 of you in the wind at all times. Single file with longer pulls would have been better for the 3 of you at the end. This was a big one for the legend Steve Tilford :stevetilford.com/2011/03/17/two-things-that-drive-me-crazy/ -cheers
this is a really good vid format.
Thank you!!
This would also relate to an MTB Short Track Race where the attacks and recovery are made along and bridging gaps. Thank you so much for the analysis on the videos. I do bet they riders for the Local Crit Bets are also watching l.
Great and insightful commentary. Thanks for doing the work to put these together.
Thanks for watching!!
Those roads look like some roads here in Portugal,nice video and good job wining the race.
Thanks for watching!!!
excellent commentary. congratulations for the win.
Thanks so much!
Going well Nate, taking on higher category riders won't be as simple. Good lessons for the viewers.
That's the goal! Thanks Ray :)
Great video and awesome commentary with the break down. 1st cycling channel I have ever subscribed to.
Thanks for the sub! We really appreciate it :)
Great job, Nate! Those potholes..that road was for shit!!!
People (the pack) bust their ass up hills @:30 because they do that during every club ride. A trained response.
Splunk dude rides with his head down @15:53 and goes off the road. Don't do that.
Awesome blow by blow narrative. Thanks
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching :)
fascinating, thanks for posting. riding in a race/bunch is so much different.
Thanks so much for watching!
Great video. Love the race commentary. We need a MTB one
Thanks Brad! We're hoping to get a lot more content over this upcoming race season :)
Nate, your badass man. That was awesome
Congratulations Nate!
This guy has a rock solid heart rate. Doesn't even matter what he does! 135bpm! Amazing!
Good tactics going on. I'm not completely sold on the "sag climbing" unless you're just doing it to survive. It leaves you vulnerable to attacks at key moments of the race.
This is a good point. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Enjoyed that.Congrats and great commentary.
Thanks Mick!
Hopefully spunk got third with the soft front. It wasn't like he didn't want to work or let a gap go
Read his comment higher up. Did get 3rd.
Good for him. But not great
Good video. Terrible road surface. Can't believe you raced on that!
I don’t think the race organizers could have found a worse road if they tried. Nice informative video.
Thanks for watching, Peter!
Liked the video and narrated thought process.
Thanks, Doug! Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Dope Video! Sending blessing your way, Keep inspiring!🎒🙌🏻
Nice win! You're doing a much better job riding the draft closely
Thanks Scott!
Lol there is so much to bike racing. Very good being sneaky there.
There's certainly a lot of strategy that goes into a successful bike race!
I was like geez solid heart rate at 600w+ up the climb Nate! Then I realised it was broken 😝
On a more serious note, how was the Venge? The road surface looks pretty rough in spots.
Venge was great! The new one is much more compliant than the old one. But I think it's all about the tires. 28mm tubeless at 80 PSI make he road feel a lot smoother.
Cool video. It would be great if some day these onboard cameras could be more integrated in the TV transmissions from the pro races. It makes it all so much more intense.
Btw - shouldn't the title of this video be "How to miss a breakaway"? ;-)
We totally agree! It would make pro races so much more exciting :)
Very nicely done!
Thanks!
I'm tired. trying to keep up with you. great insight.
I don' even have to pretend. I'm pushing 60....!
That was super interesting! That was a HARD gravel ride! (wait, what? you call that asfalt???)
beast videos on youtube by far
2:23 That's some beautiful scenery to ride in.
It really is!
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching, Glenn!
Love watching your videos! Can I ask what kind of camera you’re using?
We are using a GoPro Hero 7 Black cameras.
loved the video...quite informative...!
what groupset are you using? im enjoying the breakdown tactics and commentary , im fairly new to road cycling any tips for a rookie?
doc zilla Nate is running Sram 11 speed e-tap!
If you like this type of content, we'd recommend watching our other race analysis videos and checking out our full length Ask a Cycling Coach Podcast.
As for tips for a rookie, we recommend getting your fitness where it needs to be first and foremost. If you're interested in getting faster, and increasing your FTP, well then you came to the right place :)
Check us out at trainerroad.com.
Great video. I was the REVS guy with the striped black and white socks. Can you post video of the entire race?
We've got the last lap up at this link: th-cam.com/video/RJovNeD8x58/w-d-xo.html
Der Führer you’re correct! It’s Snelling California just outside Merced.
Feels to me that you were just a whole lot stronger than most people in this grade.
Nate's pretty fit right now!!
I dont race at all but I'm really enjoying your content(s) !!
So glad to hear it! Thanks for watching :)
is this a gravel race? that asphalt looks rough as sh!t
Haha it really is a brutal race!
Nice effort. What brand of 28mm tires do you recommend? Fast rolling and puncture resistant.
Target Pace schwalbe pro one right now, although I’m moving to GP 5000 TL.
That splunk guy needs a bike fit. He's rocking all over that saddle.
That's why people ride hard up hills so they can stay close to the front and if a break goes like it did, they can be in it. Drifting back on hills can save you energy but there is a risk and price to pay for that reward. The sprint was good, I would sprint where the draft is if you do it quickly they wont be able to box you and if they do they will get DQ. You should be Racing Cat 1 or 2 :) that race looked way to easy for you. Move up! and lets see how you do.
in some nations (iirc, Australia, but I am sure there are others), folks can nominate themselves to move up categories. In many other nations, you gotta "rise through the ranks", and actually qualify each year to move up a category. Consequence is that in some nations many cat 1 riders would only be cat 2 elsewhere etc. etc. and then you get ageing riders performing not that well, and claiming they are the best in their age group etc. etc. In "qualifying category" nations, you don't get the BS'ers and the folks trading on past glories.
In short, the requirements to be a rider of varying categories are NOT the same throughout the world, and the standard required to win a race of a particular category also varies between nations.
Having said all that, a really good rider is still a really good rider, wherever they ride!
What kind of camera mount do you have? Very smooth considering the road surface!
Brian Darnell GoPro hero 7
@@TrainerRoad I've got a Hero 7 too and it would have bounced around a lot using the GoPro bike mount on that rough road. Do you have some kind of special mount that eliminated so much of the vibration? Nice video, thanks!
Brian Darnell I used the super view function (I think that’s what it’s called). It’s the one on the hero 7 black where it makes everything super smooth.
@@TrainerRoad Thanks!
super smooth and butts look big 😁
Good job
I've won a couple of races by using this climbing method. Circuit course that we did the climb five times. It's the only way I didn't get spit off the back.
Rule.... pull if you can!
Well ridden!
Thanks! Thanks for watching :)
The yellow line rule changes most of this advice. You can’t drift too far back up a hill if you are blocked and can’t use the left side.
Depends if you need to be at the front of the race or just don't want to be dropped.
Inspirational
Constant 135 bpm. Very impressive. Is 135 bpm zone2 in 5 zone classification?
This is a mistake, it seems that the heart rate monitor was not reading properly. During any effort you will see heart rate variation, but especially in the case of a race.
good job!
Thanks for watching!
“...so no one jumped on my wheel, that was mistake right?” With a teammate in the break, I was sitting in the back talking and waving to the camera as we passed the finish line...so maybe just a wee bit 👌🏼Then nobody chased, then I saw my teammate on the side of the road with a flat...🤦🏻♂️👀
Riding Carbon if you have a team mate in the break you’d want to get on my wheel and get a free ride all the way to the break.
that was sarcasm on my part because I was in the back having tea and cookies
4:38 HR pinned at 135...either it’s bogus or Nate is a cyborg!
Cool video.
Thanks!
I see you are a super tall rider, what kind of bike do you ride?
bradley sennett I ride a Specialized S-Works Venge :)
hart-rate constant at 135. amazing
Splunk dude needs to get his saddle height adjusted ASAP.
This is Gold :)
So glad you liked it! Thanks for watching :)
Do you have a good source to break down the categories of racing? I'm in MN and can't seem to find any competitive road races. I race MTB but I'd like to dip my toe in road as well.
Garrett Millaway in NorCal there’s a district website that lists all the sanctioned races. Id find out your district website and see if they have a calendar. Good luck!
Garrett, you might want to start here: www.usacycling.org/events?type=ROAD&state=MN or mcf.usacycling.org/
And then you come to Europe, want to race with Continental teams so you go into a break and do like 500w turns on the front... R.I.P 😱
Damn those roads are rough!
So bad! It definitely wears you down.
fucking chess game jeez
so much planning and calculating and mental games
this is a truckload of fun !
That's what makes racing so great! You have to do a lot of little things just right :)
Thanks for watching!
Awesome! The thumbs up made me laugh. 😂 @clockcutter mph and kph 😎
If I recall correctly back in the day all the roads were open except for Fields road and the finish hill. Folks used to get relegated for yellow line violations
wow Impressive..Grate video the roads look like NJ Roads Not and easy place to race at all..
Not an easy place at all!
amazeing
Thanks for watching!