Thanks for such a great pilot of my deck yet again! It was beyond magnificent! I hate that Trinisphere didn't show out for you like it has for me. There is nothing more satisfying than making someone concede to a turn 1 Trinisphere or after wrecking the majority of their mana. Definitely gotten a number of concessions out of it. STOKED to see that Noxious Revival showed out, though!! That card is a beast! Edit: So looking back with fresh eyes, that Round 2 Game 1 Trinisphere is definitely why it felt bad lol. I almost never ever keep 1 land hands with this deck no matter how tempting they feel. Learned that the HARD way. Hate it came up for you too.
@@marceline8009 Nohohoho! Thats what I get for not playtesting on a proper server like MTGO, not checking which cards are banned... I thought he was only banned in modern and pioneer but yeah, he is banned in legacy.
Does witherbloom command have a role here? Seems like it could fit at least in the sideboard. Edit* If you explained this extensively in deck tech, I was not paying super close attention.
This is why I love donation decklists. I don’t know what the likelihood would be of you picking up this deck on your own, and your blue control pedigree has prepared you well to play this kind of deck. Seeing you play something relatively novel can be a lot more enjoyable than going to work with the same deck time after time.
16:45 It was better to cast spirit. IF your opponent rips a Reanimaton spell for Archon you can sack the spirt instead of lily and attack for 2 a turn earlier
Noxious revival is such an underrated phyrexian mana card. Glad it's getting some love. Wizards, we need some more phyrexian mana versions of popular cards!
Love these kind of decks, great to see this content. Question: @ 52:50 would not using lili have been an option? I feel like we are so used to always use planeswalkers that we audible to that but I feel like with "Veil" specifically sometimes not activating her might be better. Curious to hear your thoughts.
Delve, Convoke, and Improvise aren’t cost-reducing mechanics, they’re payment mechanics that are used after the total cost of the spell is locked in. They are the 3 ways to sneak past a trinisphere.
in the final round, game 2, discarding both deluges in favor of dark ritual rubbed me the wrong way when it happened, because of the high land count the deck plays. i understand the line you were mapping out, and i may be thinking results-oriented, but i would have held the deluge for the exact type of situation that happened, where they clawed out from under lilli with retrofitter. @1:25:00 for reference
I don't really like how the whole turn was played. Casting pox was a 4-2 in favor of the opponent. While it is generally good to be aggressive in resource denial, I think just ending the turn with two duluge in hand (rather than zero), which answers all their threats except retrofitter, and a creature on board, is a lot better than denying the opponent one card.
@@daniellawson9894 I had the same reaction. I think I would have Lili+1 instead of poxing my own token. And sometimes I would be tempted to not use Lili to hang onto a banger card. Deluge against Ninjas and servos seems pretty strong; I would hesitate to give up both. That said, Brian is trying to put into action his resource denial gameplan, so I see his intentions. It's sort of an art form when to lean in to resource denial, and when to keep some goodies for yourself for later.
noxious revival looked sort of mediocre in this deck at first, but its incredibly versatile when considering its effect on an opponent's graveyard. free lodestone bauble/ surgical 4 and 5 is pretty good
Leaving aside the obvious GY hate applications, just being able to hose the opponents topdeck or set up yours in the very low resource environment that pox seeks to create is quite powerful. Top card manipulation is one of those things that on paper seems pretty meh (memory lapse, hinder, etc.), but when its used well you can really feel the tempo loss and it hurts!
Obviously having the benefit of hindsight and also the benefit of being a reanimated player in paper I feel that you should have done the sudden edict in response to the first straw seven because while they could have lotus pedal reanimate to bring it right back that would also have zapped their life total down very low and giving you outs an additional options however that is also a very specific sequence of cards whereas drawing 14 cards gives them additional options for reanimating other creatures other than gristle brand with things such as in tomb and faithless looting as well as just the cleanup step discarding the monsters always love the content as always and just my two cents helping with the algorithm!
Can you elaborate on the benefit of being a reanimator player in paper? Has me curious! Is there an inherent advantage? Does it have to do with the less structured way that priority goes back and forth in real life vs. in a rules-enforced environment like MTGO?
Dont say that phrase, imma be unable to sleep all night cuz ill be to busy rocking out wacka wacka wackooo or whatever monkey sound they did is typed. Legends.
I'm really wondering about the cursed scroll, is there no better one mana artifact that can serve as a damage wincon? This deck give me a similar feeling to the root maze stasis deck you played a while ago, and that has a black vise as its wincon I feel like would be good for this deck if the game goes long enough, but then again this is also a discard deck which conflicts with black vise, so Im really wondering what other artifacts are there that can serve in the place of cursed scroll
Unless you run 4 loams and an entomb to find them, Cusred Scroll tends to be fantastic. It deals with walkers, stoneforged mystics, tokens, delvers, elves, and it wins games.
Cursed Scroll never got off the ground in this league, but the card is a heater. Black Vise/The Rack effects do exactly one thing well. Scroll can stabilize a board then start winning. It’s the original punishing fire.
I wish that Smallpox was playable for Modern. It's okay in the BW version with Flagstones, but it's just medium at best, and with Control being as rampant as it is, I don't see it being worth a try. I'd love to give Loampox a try, but the fact that it doesn't have the acceleration makes me sad.
I freaking love pox. Idk about the trinosphere. I do see what they are going for, cause sometimes the opponent can top deck a 1 or 2 drop and they get ahead. But still sus
I play it pretty surgically. If a game lines up to let me burn down mana and resources it quickly puts a nail in the coffin. It also just shuts it down outright if I keep building resources of my own, but you have to watch those opening hands pretty hard. Sometimes it just doesn't work in a matchup and gets taken out, but overall I've loved having it in my meta. It's my favorite flavor haha.
You can try Chrome Mox (though it’s a LOT worse). Or add the 4th dark ritual and commit to playing a little slower. Most pox decks don’t play Diamond, we just get to here because of Loam.
@@BoshNRoll thank you very much! Also i wanted to ask, you have any way to write you so to send you some lists to try? I have a list for budget reanimator which is different than the usual one around and i think it works very well. Also with "budget" content you could make much more views given the fact that price is a great entry barrier for legacy:)
Well, maybe for Modern, because W6 isn't legal in Legacy. But even then, you're starting to stretch your mana quite a bit. However, that said, if any kind of combo is going to get W6 banned in Modern, it'll definitely be the Channel land shenanigans.
Man, if I got to draw as hot as your Faeries opponent did in that game 3, I'd be embarrassed to ever lose a match again. On top of turn after turn of pure gasoline, the turn he produced Spellbomb to clear Nether Spirit + cycle into the walker had me groaning. Couldn't have stacked his deck any better if he'd been cheating.
MTG content creators be like: NEW DECK Super legacy turbo bauble jace cloud storm. Just take any 3 cards that are staples and throw em in a deck. The title will write itself.
@@Seldomheardabout Trinisphere is also hardly a staple in ANY format beside EDH now, and even then, it's only a staple in the Prison Stax decks (like GAAIV). Also, the reason he formats the title that way is because of search engines. If someone types in "Smallpox Stax" it'll bring them to this video because of keywords.
This is an extreme disservice to the Legacy community. Pox LOOKS fun when you see someone else play it once. It is not. You will burn 2 grand and will be MISERABLE. It looks fun I get it. But once you actually invest and play the deck and 2/3 every league after slowly “almost winning.” Always remember the Pox modo. “You will beat me, but it won’t be fun”
That mindbreak trap bait was a thing of beauty.
Came here to say the same thing, unbelievably sick play.
Round 3 was the Poxiest Pox shenanigans that's ever Poxed. Really a thing of beauty.
Thanks for such a great pilot of my deck yet again! It was beyond magnificent!
I hate that Trinisphere didn't show out for you like it has for me. There is nothing more satisfying than making someone concede to a turn 1 Trinisphere or after wrecking the majority of their mana. Definitely gotten a number of concessions out of it. STOKED to see that Noxious Revival showed out, though!! That card is a beast!
Edit: So looking back with fresh eyes, that Round 2 Game 1 Trinisphere is definitely why it felt bad lol. I almost never ever keep 1 land hands with this deck no matter how tempting they feel. Learned that the HARD way. Hate it came up for you too.
Thanks for the submission. I love loam pox!
Game 1 was fantastic, makes me want to give legacy pox a try
It’s a trap
8:50 Cmon man, "lets go 3-balls to the wall"
Noxious Revival is some spicy gouda.
Really fun seeing Nether Spirit show up during the League. Also amazing job baiting that Mindbreak Trap play against Reanimator!
Plague Wind Engineer! Great commentary! 40:30
The tension associated with these games make them very entertaining. A drastic change from the Bant-all-the-answers decks.
thanks for uploading! Enjoy watching pox/prison decks playing, but to play against them is another thing xd
I love all flavors of Loam pox. Been experimenting with a Lurrus mana denial version with sphere of resistance thats super cool.
In vintage?
@@marceline8009 In legacy
@@nooneatall5612 sadly lurrus is banned in legacy :P
@@marceline8009 Nohohoho! Thats what I get for not playtesting on a proper server like MTGO, not checking which cards are banned... I thought he was only banned in modern and pioneer but yeah, he is banned in legacy.
At 49:05 Why don't you play wasteland and cast Both Edict and Pox?
Amazing second game! I was eager for the victory until the last minute! Good game
Exactly why your my favorite channels. Always such fun decks and such insight. I’ve definitely become a much better player after finding your TH-cam!
Man that ghost quarter into mindbreak trap play was 3000IQ 😂
Cool deck! Discovered your channel recently and really enjoying your videos!
Your Content is intoxicating!
Dang I love these kinda decks so much.
Brutal!
Little moments of joy thru the day.. like BoshnRoll uploads
"Pox pox pox pox pooooooooox!" Is everything I want from a magic game
Nothing makes me smile like Cursed Scroll. My second favorite win con
I'm screaming at the screen for you to noxious revival your forest
Does witherbloom command have a role here? Seems like it could fit at least in the sideboard.
Edit* If you explained this extensively in deck tech, I was not paying super close attention.
This is why I love donation decklists. I don’t know what the likelihood would be of you picking up this deck on your own, and your blue control pedigree has prepared you well to play this kind of deck. Seeing you play something relatively novel can be a lot more enjoyable than going to work with the same deck time after time.
I love excuses to play this kind of deck too. :)
16:45 It was better to cast spirit. IF your opponent rips a Reanimaton spell for Archon you can sack the spirt instead of lily and attack for 2 a turn earlier
Noxious revival is such an underrated phyrexian mana card. Glad it's getting some love.
Wizards, we need some more phyrexian mana versions of popular cards!
as cool as phyrexian mana is, theres a reason nearly every single playable card ever printed with it is banned lol
Round 4 Game 2, the trick for mind break trap was dope as f
1:01:15 you need a Japanese cursed scroll for maximum punish!
Love these kind of decks, great to see this content. Question: @ 52:50 would not using lili have been an option? I feel like we are so used to always use planeswalkers that we audible to that but I feel like with "Veil" specifically sometimes not activating her might be better. Curious to hear your thoughts.
Decktech:
On Abrupt Decay not hitting "Jace the mind sculptor ... cards we will never ever beat"
Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time.
I'm dumb. I watched this video and didn't realize the algorithm had fed me a one year old video.
Round 5 @ 1:20:50 , i’m confused about the trinisphere - delver interaction. Shouldnt murktide cost 3 mana no matter howmuch you delve?
Delve, Convoke, and Improvise aren’t cost-reducing mechanics, they’re payment mechanics that are used after the total cost of the spell is locked in. They are the 3 ways to sneak past a trinisphere.
in the final round, game 2, discarding both deluges in favor of dark ritual rubbed me the wrong way when it happened, because of the high land count the deck plays. i understand the line you were mapping out, and i may be thinking results-oriented, but i would have held the deluge for the exact type of situation that happened, where they clawed out from under lilli with retrofitter. @1:25:00 for reference
I don't really like how the whole turn was played. Casting pox was a 4-2 in favor of the opponent. While it is generally good to be aggressive in resource denial, I think just ending the turn with two duluge in hand (rather than zero), which answers all their threats except retrofitter, and a creature on board, is a lot better than denying the opponent one card.
@@daniellawson9894 I had the same reaction. I think I would have Lili+1 instead of poxing my own token. And sometimes I would be tempted to not use Lili to hang onto a banger card. Deluge against Ninjas and servos seems pretty strong; I would hesitate to give up both. That said, Brian is trying to put into action his resource denial gameplan, so I see his intentions. It's sort of an art form when to lean in to resource denial, and when to keep some goodies for yourself for later.
That mindbreak trap…sploosh
Game 1 is magnificent, I want to do the same in Modern
Masterful!
**holy hell that game one though**
noxious revival looked sort of mediocre in this deck at first, but its incredibly versatile when considering its effect on an opponent's graveyard. free lodestone bauble/ surgical 4 and 5 is pretty good
Leaving aside the obvious GY hate applications, just being able to hose the opponents topdeck or set up yours in the very low resource environment that pox seeks to create is quite powerful. Top card manipulation is one of those things that on paper seems pretty meh (memory lapse, hinder, etc.), but when its used well you can really feel the tempo loss and it hurts!
Love it!
Wow, Daddy Grissel is no match for the plague
Obviously having the benefit of hindsight and also the benefit of being a reanimated player in paper I feel that you should have done the sudden edict in response to the first straw seven because while they could have lotus pedal reanimate to bring it right back that would also have zapped their life total down very low and giving you outs an additional options however that is also a very specific sequence of cards whereas drawing 14 cards gives them additional options for reanimating other creatures other than gristle brand with things such as in tomb and faithless looting as well as just the cleanup step discarding the monsters always love the content as always and just my two cents helping with the algorithm!
Voice text is... Unkind to me.
@@LucksackGames So, you're saying that you aren't a reanimated zombie player? Aw man....
@@Korwinga sad but true
Can you elaborate on the benefit of being a reanimator player in paper? Has me curious! Is there an inherent advantage? Does it have to do with the less structured way that priority goes back and forth in real life vs. in a rules-enforced environment like MTGO?
@@EliMitchellLarson it has to do with me being slightly more educated than a random that's never played in the deck before :)
Pox is definitely one of those decks that feel amazing to pilot but you hate to see it on the other side of the table.
The art of Pox is me reading the title of this video 😩
This league was so cool
Dont say that phrase, imma be unable to sleep all night cuz ill be to busy rocking out wacka wacka wackooo or whatever monkey sound they did is typed. Legends.
I'm really wondering about the cursed scroll, is there no better one mana artifact that can serve as a damage wincon? This deck give me a similar feeling to the root maze stasis deck you played a while ago, and that has a black vise as its wincon I feel like would be good for this deck if the game goes long enough, but then again this is also a discard deck which conflicts with black vise, so Im really wondering what other artifacts are there that can serve in the place of cursed scroll
Unless you run 4 loams and an entomb to find them, Cusred Scroll tends to be fantastic. It deals with walkers, stoneforged mystics, tokens, delvers, elves, and it wins games.
Cursed Scroll never got off the ground in this league, but the card is a heater. Black Vise/The Rack effects do exactly one thing well. Scroll can stabilize a board then start winning. It’s the original punishing fire.
Is hymn to tourach (probably wrote it wrong) still legal in legacy? Its been a long time since i saw a meta deck with it. Is it now considered weak?
This deck would play Hymn if it wasn’t using those slots on Trinisphere. (I think hymn is better)
I love grindy decks
have you considered elvish spirit guide? not dead under trinisphere, gives you fast mana and can be a beater in a pinch
I’d rather cut trinisphere than add ESG, but it’s a good fast mana option for the deck.
In game 1 against faeries could you not have noxious revivaled your land in the graveyard on top of your library paying 2 mana and the phyrexian mana?
Not how it works, sadly. You still have to pay 3 regardless of how you cast it.
Unfortunately that’s not how that works.
Is there a Tergrid pox build in Legacy?
Not that I’ve seen.
I wish that Smallpox was playable for Modern. It's okay in the BW version with Flagstones, but it's just medium at best, and with Control being as rampant as it is, I don't see it being worth a try. I'd love to give Loampox a try, but the fact that it doesn't have the acceleration makes me sad.
spinning darkness was your not in deck out that has been in pox list b4 against the ninjas.
Who DOESN't love loam pox?
That's right, no one.
My opponents.
I freaking love pox. Idk about the trinosphere. I do see what they are going for, cause sometimes the opponent can top deck a 1 or 2 drop and they get ahead. But still sus
I play it pretty surgically. If a game lines up to let me burn down mana and resources it quickly puts a nail in the coffin. It also just shuts it down outright if I keep building resources of my own, but you have to watch those opening hands pretty hard. Sometimes it just doesn't work in a matchup and gets taken out, but overall I've loved having it in my meta. It's my favorite flavor haha.
What's a good alternative to mox diamond for poor people like me?
You can try Chrome Mox (though it’s a LOT worse). Or add the 4th dark ritual and commit to playing a little slower. Most pox decks don’t play Diamond, we just get to here because of Loam.
@@BoshNRoll thank you very much! Also i wanted to ask, you have any way to write you so to send you some lists to try? I have a list for budget reanimator which is different than the usual one around and i think it works very well. Also with "budget" content you could make much more views given the fact that price is a great entry barrier for legacy:)
One spell - ahaha, two spells - ahaha... Brian watches Jrose11? xD sweet
Idk who that is. It’s a Sesame Street reference
10 hrs in, and no one has referred to this deck as Apoxalyptic? smh
i wonder if 4 boseiju, 4 wrenn and tix, 4 urza's saga, 4 life grom he loam, 4 assassin's trophy is a deck...
Well, maybe for Modern, because W6 isn't legal in Legacy. But even then, you're starting to stretch your mana quite a bit. However, that said, if any kind of combo is going to get W6 banned in Modern, it'll definitely be the Channel land shenanigans.
Not in Legacy it isn’t, since W6 is banned. I tried a mono-land-destructing build of pox a while back on the channel and it was baaaaaaddddd
all my hopes and dreams QQ
Imagine u had big daddy pox vs faeries when they were at 3!
Yay!
Obligatory algorithmic contribution
I see the word pox, I watch.
Discard deluge off Liliana with 3 useless smallpox in hands??? I can't take it. And opponent literally topdecks biterblossom. LMAO.
Man, if I got to draw as hot as your Faeries opponent did in that game 3, I'd be embarrassed to ever lose a match again. On top of turn after turn of pure gasoline, the turn he produced Spellbomb to clear Nether Spirit + cycle into the walker had me groaning. Couldn't have stacked his deck any better if he'd been cheating.
That’s Magic!
Why no Boseju?
I did a whole thing about Boseiju and Assassin’s Trophy in the deck tech.
@@BoshNRoll yea but you love to loam more than anything! there are so many times i scream "JUST DRAW A CARD!"
Is Damnation just too slow?
Yeah, 4 mana when you’re Smallpoxing and Wastelanding is rough
@@BoshNRoll I used to play 4 Smallpox, 4 Damnation, 4 Phyrexian Totem in standard and it was delicious
I'm starting a petition to reprint pox in standard.
OW AAAHH AAHHH AAAAAHHH
Brian Coval? More like Cryin' Snowball.
I can't believe you didn't board in toxic deluge against fairies!!!! It's literally the best card against fairies besides plague engineer
MTG content creators be like: NEW DECK Super legacy turbo bauble jace cloud storm.
Just take any 3 cards that are staples and throw em in a deck. The title will write itself.
I mean Trinesphere doesn't normally go with pox...
@@OtisJCW That's where the "throw any 3 staples in a deck" came from -_-
@@Seldomheardabout Trinisphere is also hardly a staple in ANY format beside EDH now, and even then, it's only a staple in the Prison Stax decks (like GAAIV). Also, the reason he formats the title that way is because of search engines. If someone types in "Smallpox Stax" it'll bring them to this video because of keywords.
This is an extreme disservice to the Legacy community. Pox LOOKS fun when you see someone else play it once. It is not. You will burn 2 grand and will be MISERABLE. It looks fun I get it. But once you actually invest and play the deck and 2/3 every league after slowly “almost winning.” Always remember the Pox modo. “You will beat me, but it won’t be fun”
I encourage proxies or cardhoarder for folks to try decks before spewing 2 grand on anything.
Plague Engineer Merfolk against Fairies made me want to stop watching this channel. Pulling my hair out.