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After watching you and others DIY this stuff
I see no benefit in doing this stuff yourself
Thanks for sharing 👍
The technique of spraying a patch on the ceiling then to pull it down and use it as a barrier is brilliant.
what a process. Loved the trick he used to seal the eaves between the rafters
It's amazing how much that stuff expands.
It’s so impressive to watch the insulation being installed.
I’m sure you will enjoy this for many years and will be more healthier for you.
Nice work!!
Nathan, good decision to have them install the foam insulation above the shop. You also will notice difference for heating and cooling. Great shop for generations.
cleanest foam trailer Ive ever seen. Easy to see theses guys care about their work.
Checked out their address on Google earth .they’re not a fly by night outfit by any means…
That's one way to look at a company, see if the rig is messed up, but also they might have just bought it.
You are such a joy to listen to. The way the explanations are handled are special, Nathan, Start a class on being southern polite.
That spray foam process is almost hypnotic! Couldn’t get enough!
Prep is great 👍 the installation is top notch! That is fantastic!
There is something so satisfying about watching this process...
Thanks Nathan for showing the foam insulation video that really makes big difference on temperature of your shop .
Worked on the Space Shuttle External Fuel Tank Project. It was completely sprayed in close cell foam on the exterior. I think the stuff is a fantastic material to use for insulation in buildings. Very much enjoy this channel. My cousins had an ancient belt driven circular saw mill up in Maine. The whole thing collapsed one winter due to wet and heavy snow.
That’s sad.
I HOPE THEY RECOVERED. THANKS FOR SHARING.🇺🇲👍🏻
@@DRAGNET-pn5vf It was old, mortise and tenon and pegs. It was actually powered by a Model T engine and belts. Never did hear what they might have done but they only ran it in summer. They were shipbuilders, like my dad.
That's interesting. I didn't know that foam was used on the space shuttle. I'm wondering if NASA developed it. I live in the southeast so snow load isn't a problem. Sorry about your cousin's sawmill roof. Certainly get some big snow times up in the northern parts of the country.
Amazing how quickly it dries yet is malleable enough to remove from overhead and placed on the backside of the fascia. The technology is INCREDIBLE.
Thanks for the great video!
Yes, exactly
Very satisfying to watch.
Great job Nathan, very well installed and cleaned up after and a reasonable price too. Now when you get everything put back together and get busy in there then you'll be happy too. Stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.
It warms my heart.
That will make a world of difference for your Mr. Cool. I put closed cell in my shop ceiling and in the walls before I started building it out. Even without the mini split, It was evident how much the improvement was.
Bill
Nice 👍
It’s a real skill and it looks great
The other reason to hire the pros for just about anything, is the speed at which they can finish the job. I suspect that job didn't take more than a half day to complete.
It's always enjoyable to watch craftsmen at work. Your shop will definitely be more comfortable to work in. And the foam helps to deaden sound as well. Good choice, Mr. Elliot.
Agreed 100%
I’m just south of you, I too had a professional (out of Knoxville), to spray ‘closed cell’, on all exterior walls (I removed the sheetrock). Also the open-beam ceiling in the master bedroom. Wow, what a difference! Best investment I’ve made, to our house…..
Wow that stuff expands like crazy. Loved how he closed off the eves.
Had this done when I finished second story , been 4 years now the best thing I could have ever done
That’s so cool I can watch your videos all day long nice job.
Thanks 👍
Nathan it sounds like you got a good deal. We just had our house done and it really makes a difference. Cool video. 👍❤️
I've done roofing with polyurethane spray foam and elastomeric coatings. It's like putting down a seamless roof. Great stuff.
open cell does not have vapor barrier properties, but closed cell should have a higher R value per inch and provide vapor barrier characteristics.
I had them spray my wood working shop 50x60 side walls and ceiling plus heated floors with central air and friend it makes it alot more enjoyable to work in there.
You named two good reasons to hire the professional guys. The number three reason, for me would be time! I'm sure I would have been able to do it probably four or five hours more than they did! Time is money! God bless!
Number 4 reason is that you won’t have visits to the chiropractor for neck pain. I was impressed at how fast the foam spraying was. The value was in the time spent in prep work of covering things with plastic and cleaning afterward.
That process was just crazy😛but watching it was amazing!!
Glad you liked it!!
Fascinating! I was wondering how they were going to do the ends of the joist bays. What a clever solution. I have to look into this for my house - it's from the 1940's and the attic is uninsulated. I think it's time.
I do spray foam for a living and always advise customers that open cell on an exterior substrate is a very bad idea. In the event something happens to the structure that would allow water infiltration the open cell foam will absorb that water where closed cell will not absorb water
Exactly. A roof leak, the open cell will absorb water like sponge and potentially overload the roof structure to the point of failure. Additionally, moistened closed cell could become a medium for mold growth.
@@Noobooddy modern closed cell does not promote mold growth
Very educational thanks.
Also ran a foam company and confirm you are absolutely correct
question... say you have closed cell on roof or exterior and a nail gets poked through and then removed.. for whatever reason.... will the closed cell seal that leak if water got in?
So satisfying to watch
This Spray Tech did a Absolutely Beautiful Job 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😍
I think so too!
That's a reasonable price in my opinion. I'm definitely going to use those guys when I'm ready, very professional. They're in my neck of the woods, so to speak lol. Thanks for the video!
Very cool! Thanks for sharing all of this with us. I need to put up some insulation myself and this is very helpful. :)
I love to watch people who know what they are doing
Excellent price. You can hear the difference. No reverb of sound
Great video! Knew of the process but never saw it applied Thanks
You bet!
This spray foam is so satisfying😀
I always found this a fascinating technology. Better living through chemistry!
I thoroughly enjoy your channel and yes that is a great value
Awesome! Thank you!
I had the same thing done at my old place. 20x40 at 12' up. Prices were all over the place. Think I paid $1,600 at the time and was happy to do it. After a lot of looking, you can't do it yourself cheaper. You could heat that shop with a match just about. I miss that shop!
I would love to have my new place foamed.
That's a nice job I like that I'll catch you on the next one
Will you cover the foam to hide the foam? That stuff is amazing. I love to do it yourself with a lot stuff. BUT sometimes the time saved, the knowledge of experts, the experience they have and the muscle energy saved just makes better sense. Again Thanks.
Recently had my 18x40 shop sprayed. You got a heck of a good deal.
Tip: Add a barrier and spacing between roof deck and spray foam.
The did a Excellent Job for you!!!
Fantastic deal!
Congratulations. Thanks for sharing. Very interesting!
Thanks for watching!
Looks good.
That's is cool how that stuff works
Well done Nathan it’s done now and you can reap the benefits of their knowledge and skills. By the way it reminded me of a Tsunami working it’s way across the ceiling! 🌊🌊🌊
Oh I see your a festool man, best tools ever built in my opinion
WOW!! impressive!!
Good stuff. When I did my shop, a local company quoted me cheaper for 3-1/2" closed cell walls and 5" open cell ceiling than I could have actually bought the diy kits for. I was instantly sold. 2 years later still no regrets.
Good stuff!
I had a professional company spray the purple closed cell around the sill plate of my house using the full-sized drums you saw here. Initially, they were going to use kits but after seeing the size of the job called in their foam truck & applied closed cell purple foam. They said it was much cheaper, faster & did a better job than the kits. Watched many videos on the small kits & it looks tedious & nowhere as nice as professionally installed foam.
Nathan it looks Great, I have heard people say that it is not good for you but not found any proof. Keep up the Great video's Please
Make sure you get a company like this that preps and covers everything.
Once this stuff gets onto something it’s never coming off. Worse that paint.
A galvanized steel spring curry horse comb works well to scrape off any high spots on your ceiling joists. If you plan on paneling in the future.
I was wondering about how to do that. I was thinking about a huge wire cheese slicer. LOL.
Great video. A couple questions please? Is there a structural concern with a spray foam? Some people told me that it can hinder the expansion and retraction of the wooden structure possibly damaging it. Second, do you recommend to put in an air chamber before spraying it?
So if your happy then Job Well Done.😎🤠😄👍
Great decision to use open cell on the roof and to have a pro installer do it. You had said, open cell at your application level was equivalent to R19, I believe. There is an additional R value to using spray foam that is hard to verify but I have seen over time as an HVAC contractor. My experience has been; "Real R value" is much higher; I believe it to be R 30 or better because of the UV rejection with the encapsulated roof or better yet the whole structure. I like to see that you built your shop with old school sawed lumber and covered it with new day foam "-)
😊nice nice that's a lot of r value 😊👍👍👍👍
Very!
If you make more or the same doing your work . don't stop your work to do theirs. As pros they will do it faster and usually better . I've tried the DIY in lots of projects. The projects were good but it took 4 times as long . Seen a dry wall taper and Mudder make magic one day the craftsmanship was a show of wonder . WOW
This is a good argument if, two things, you have unlimited work opportunities, AND you like doing your professional work enough to do it all the time, oh and one more thing I forgot, if you do your work and get paid you pay taxes on that and then have less money with which to pay them. If you DIY the tax man gets left out of the game. Lastly its not even 50% of the time that the guy I hire does better work than I do, at anything. They are there to get in and out as fast as possible.
hi there that was interesting thanks for showing it , john
Surprised you opted for open cell as it doesn't have the vapor permeability and structural stiffness benefits of closed cell. Closed cell is also R7-7.5 per inch while open cell is about R3-3.5 per inch. But perhaps there was a reason that the contractor recommended it for your specific job. Regardless, you're going to notice a huge difference in comfort as you already note in the video.
I heard open cell allows the wood to allow moisture thru so the wood doesn't rot underneath the foam. That's a big problem for these foam installations, so it has to be the right type or the wood rots in a few years
The ceiling in my little shop is the underside of the tin roof. In the summer the heat radiates straight down. Feels like an oven and in winter the heat from the heater goes straight out the roof. After watching this video I'm going to do this. Tried fiberglass insulation and wound up with a large family of rats in the ceiling. Not doing that again. lol.
Isn't it just the opposite? That open cell is the one with moisture permeability? Permeable means subject to.
Thanks for saying how much I have wondered . 16:13
Very nice. Just wondered, if you were going to insulate the area behind the dust collector?
It makes people think about insulation in the workshop or even the house
Was that a mr kool air cond/split I saw in your shop prior to the installation? Saw another you tuber put in one 2 weeks ago and they love it. Just being snoopy wondering if it was one and is it installed yet? I need one and the 36,000 unit is what I’m thinking about. Love your videos and now have my wife watching also.
Oh that worked great
Ur Tools an isolation are so different....but very interesting..
Was Wonderin’ how they’d fill Those daylight gaps in the soffit areas .. Great the way they can manufacture a sheet then stuffit in the Gap and use it as a base to go right over…so many ways to play with that stuff….
5 inches of open cell foam has an R value of 19, whereas 3 inches of closed cell foam has an R value of 21. I had my steel barn sprayed with 3 inches of closed cell foam and installed a mini split HVAC unit and it stays 72° inside with the unit set at 73°.
looks like they sprayed marshmallow on the ceiling!! that stuff is pretty cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was interesting! Looked like some kind of alien growth 😂
Looks like they did a terrific job. Are you lining the ceilings and walls to encapsulate the insulation? Thanks as always for the video.
It would be a good idea. I think it either needs a fire resistant coating or some sort of paneling/drywall to be up to code in a house. Not sure if that applies in a workshop.
I was thinking while you did the first batch that it might have been better to get the professional grade and have it sprayed by the professional crews. I’ve done some of my own like you did and it worked ok but it’s not the same by any stretch of the imagination. I’ve had contractors do lots of it on pipeline construction for ditch-bottom support on tie-ins at bores under roads etc. That stuff is amazing and is dry to touch within seconds. It provides support under the pipe so when it’s backfilled the weight of the dirt doesn’t put strain on the pipe.
$1,900???? You could spend 3x that much to DIY it. Wow, that is a great deal! And good lookin work!
Maybe I'll do that in my shed.
Hi Nathan! Are you going to line the ceilings?
Noticed the canopy for you miter saw. Can you tell me where you got it from, thanks??
@N8 did I see a blade/edge sharpener on the floor?
So cool
My gosh man that stuff is AMAZING and well worth the $$$$$$ money.....Thanks Nathan 🙏👍
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Great video!
Thanks!
Awesome!
Thanks!
great!
that' was a great price, I'm in northwest Indiana and i have a room 30 x 15 and was told it would cost $7000
That price is a great value . Been wondering myself about cost .
Unfortunately open-cell spray foam is a poor choice for roof decks. Opened cell is vapor permeable meaning moisture carried by air will infiltrate the foam and "ping pong" up to the highest point in the roof deck (usually the ridge). This roof may experience ridge rot within 3-5 years. A way to avoid this is to spray at least 2 inches of closed cell foam then spray open over it.
Well I hope you put up fire board, foam is very flammable
That looks great. Are you going to install more old barn metal on the ceiling in there?
I was gonna ask the same. That stuff will get real dirty and dusty.
I bought a roll of heavy duty aluminum foil from Sams club and put in between the studs before the spray. It makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Interesting
It will reduce your cell phone availability inside, but well worth it. Probably helps with other stuff I haven’t discovered yet.
Also, take the top if of aluminum cans, then stuff with cob mud and sand then stack them between the studs inside the walls. Thermal mass and reflective.
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Thanks for the video! Going to do this on my cabin, on bedrooms... very similar ceiling/roof situation! But I would love to see how they trimmed it off the rafters and evened out high spots (low spots, I suppose) in case you want to install a ceiling.
Great suggestion!
@@OutoftheWoods0623it was more of a question, not a suggestion
One of the differences between closed and open foam is , close cell foam doesn't absorb water\moisture (thing camping sleeping pad ) where open does absorb moisture\water (thing couch cushions ) The other difference is density . Closed is denser\firmer . I'm guessing the properties between these spray in foams are similar though, I'm not a TH-cam content provider LOL
Closed cell should be on the celing
I would have installed 2" closed cell in the rafters came back over it with closed cell. You cant go by R value also i would have put 1x1 in each rafter to hold the foam board off the bottom of the roof deck and made sure air could flow behind it with soffit vents and rige vent ,
Then put on closed cell around the edges , this stuff has to be covered
If it catches on fire the fumez are deadly.
I do agree that on this stuff it does not pay off to DIY, the price we pay for a DIY kit is just too high compared to the price they pay in bulk.
Cool.