Forgotten History: the Romani (Gypsy) Migration from India to Europe
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2023
- The Romani (colloquially known as the "Gypsies") are a community of European itinerants with surprising origins in northwest India. In this video, we explore the fascinating histories of two distinct Romani groups: the Roma and the Sinti. From surviving Turkic and Arab invasions, to navigating the complex social worlds of unfamiliar lands in the Middle East and Europe, this is the tale of migrant peoples who made a life for themselves despite extraordinary circumstances.
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Hey buddy ur most unbiased historian I've ever seen...thanks brother for this deep researched video..
please make a video on how cruel the islamic invasions happened in India bcoz many don't know how brutal the raids and incursions were
India didn’t exist when they left so saying they came from India doesn’t really make sense.
@@fessali5726 Also this video is trying to put the blame on Islam for the emigration of the gypsies,when in fact Islam didn't exited when the first migrated out of Rajasthan, the true homeland of the gypsies.
ANCIENT MAP OF INDIA HAS TIBET & BURMA...
CUZ IT IS DRIFTING SUB CONTINENT..
@@rebecavillanova7622 the person making this video knows they are completely lying. They have been brainwashed to think Hindus have had power for a long time and Muslims are only barbaric. When in reality islam Brant civilisation to a dysfunctional society where law was not observed excerpt what was dictated by cast system. The same caste system used by Hindus today. They use any excuse to change history. Hindus are very bad to people with different backgrounds. Always have been and always will be. They don’t even accept Dalits as human beings. Who are Hindus. This video should be removed from TH-cam. Please report it.
I’m of Romanian Romani family. Our dna has mostly Indian, then we have Greek, Balkan of course, Turkish, Aegean, Cyprus. My sister did a test so we could know, we are at 34% Indian! 😂
mostly is not 34%. you are mostly european genetically.
@@Jambudvipa-ug6yg our biggest percentage comes from India 😏
@@raluca3915true ,Love from India
Good response dear, welcome to India once it's your ancestral land
@@Blackstonexyz thank you!! 😃 I respect and love your culture and people very very much 💚🤍💛
Thank you for touching on the Violent Islamic Invasions of India. Its usually ignored.
What is ignored is violent indian invasions of southeast asia
@@mint8648 how? he has made a video on it
@@mint8648 soooo why was there no large scale migration or conversions during that time?
@@jestfuldemigod wdym. explain why southeast asia was majority buddhist with hindu minority before eleventh century, and why southeast asia was majority hindu with buddhist minority after eleventh century? why was srivijaya buddhist and majapahit hindu?
@@mint8648 nah southeast asia was mostly peaceful under indian rule.
I am half Irish half Russian. My mothers parents immigrated to the US from Soviet Russia in the 70’s. They are of largely Roma descent, but their families had been assimilated into Russian culture for a long time. I grew up with a lot of Russian culture but always wondered about our long forgotten Roma traditions and distant connection to India ❤
do you guys live in your own seprate village ?
Iam Banjara (gypsy community ) we migrated towards South India and wherever we settled we created a separte village just for our people to live , we call our village as Tanda.
@@harshnaik6989 they grew up relatively poor but so did a lot of white Russians at the time. I wouldn’t say there was any segregation, at least that they faced. Minorities in Russia all faced a little harassment from time to time but that’s the same almost anywhere with minorities in any country :)
In Romania however for example it’s a very different situation, many Gypsies/Roma in Romania live in separate villages and are very different from the rest of society. I’m sure some have assimilated but from what I’ve heard that’s not the case with many of them.
(Edit: I’m not saying Romanians are prejudiced, and I’m aware that many Roma in the Balkans are isolated by their own choice. Although I have heard a few stories of Romanians giving Roma people a hard time or expressing dislike towards them, I’m sure these stories do not represent most of the people in their country. I have some Romanian-American friends, some are Roma, some are ethnic Romanian, some are a mix of both, and they and their families are incredibly sweet and the Romanians I know are some of the nicest people ever, and they were all very receptive of the fact that I am part Roma. Every group of people has good and bad, including the Roma, but who you are as an individual is what’s most important, not your heritage, and anyone can discriminate towards anyone, and it’s never right :). )
I have some Romani ancestry from that region also. under the name Baberski, English version of the sir name changed to Barber.
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@@harshnaik6989 Yes, I know, Because I am from South India.
Wish you well.
Om.
As an Iranian I need to note 2 things:
1_There's also a Zoroastrian Persian community who fled the Arab invasion towards India known as "Parsi people". 🇮🇷❤️🇮🇳🇵🇰
2_ the "Lori" mentioned in this video of Indian descent should not be mistaken with the ethnic Lur people of SouthWest Iran whose language is derived from Middle Persian...
Bloch in Pakistan and iran both are indian
In past Afghanistan and Xinjiang is a part of Indian history you can change race language with mass killing and rape
Like scythian mongol ottoman taimur Arab mughal invasion
Yeah this Zoroastrian Community now know as parsis. Now they are richest minority in india
I think jains are still on the top@@jithumapper7059
Ratan Tata and Cyrus Mistry are Parsis 😊
Parsis are the Richest Indians
I live in rural South India and about a year ago several families of North Indian Gypsy blacksmiths stayed in 3-4 villages around for 1 or 2 months. They practiced their skills right in front of you, forging tools from old truck springs. No begging or dancing, just production & trade.
I think you might be referring to North Indian nomads, since the term "gypsy" refers to European Romanis/Sintis only. Although the Roma do have distant ancestral connections with them, they are not the same ethnic group.
Well, this does not happen in Europe... they engage in other types of "activities".
@@yingyang6080 cause u lot are xenophobic towards them right from the beginning. And expect wat ?
@@advaitaveda5671 you do not know what you are talking about and show an utter prejudice towards Western countries. Just bubbling the usual "progressive" 3rd worldism mantras that wherever adopted left rubbles behind. Easy to blame always the "others" and never put yourself in question. Fastest road to misery and failure.
@@yingyang6080 irony u talk about prejudice while categorizing half the earth's population as 3rd world. U know wat/who actually left rubble and rot behind? Yes the Europeans, and there abhrahmism everywhere they set their foot they made sure it turned into a grave yard, as recently as Afghanistan. And u know watelse is more faster way to misery and failure? Presuming only a group of ppl is superior to others and have a god given will/right over others. Sadly if europeans have looked at themselves first before blaming stuff on to others maybe they wouldn't had romani ppl doing other "activities" as u coined. U know one strong mantra that we from a third world country believe in "karma". Karma baby, u reap wat u sow. U show xenophobia towards a bunch of strange looking ppl u recieve the same from elsewhere along with interest.
As a Greek, thank you for explaining the Roma and athingani history. I learned something I was wondering about for quite some time!
Greece has big Romani population but Greece hides all its ethnic minorities and denies their basic ethnic human rights. 🥴
@@scintillam_dei J2 haplogroup is Turkic
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19;34 Athens
It's obvious
Bollywood dances are similar to gypsies
And gypsies brown skin are Indian brienne skin
I like brown skin women
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@@scintillam_dei most of Europe isn't blonde the only blondish areas are in England, Ireland, Russia and some German. And even most to half their people aren't blonde. And, some people because of history and mixing can be blonde but not Northern European.
@@eliascommentonly4652 I repeat, indians are not only brown skin. We've got asian looking indians to african looking indians
Hi I am a Roma person who lives in UK I want to say a huge thank you for this video its nice to see our roots around the world. To be honest I feel very upset tht through centuries we have not been able to find a stable an safe place on earth till this say I have no country i live in London but born in poland which makes me polish roma.
Hope fully more people will understand and learn about Roma history.
Thank you :)
I am from Panama city, Panama and my mother used to tell me that my great grand father was a gypsy, and that he died in Panama while taking care of his circus bear. I aways thought it was a lie until I did my DNA and I found out I am 20% Gypsy.
How about go back to india
I don't know if it is the case in the UK too, but here in Italy romani people don't behave well. They usually join the occasional mafia-like group together with romanians and albanians, and all they do is begging and home invading. I've been home invaded by them more than once. All of my friends have been robbed by them at some point. They live in camps made of slums and caravans, burning their trash all the times. We already have to deal with the mafia and other criminal organizations, and their presence in my country doesn't help at all. The italian government, being the absolute joke that it is, doesn't do anything to integrate them into italian society or do anything to give them the opportunity to live like normal people.
Poland was safe for Roma that wanted to integrate.
Sounds like personal choices cause you to move around. Blend into the local culture and gain a useful skill or trade
I took a DNA test and found out I’m part Romani Gypsy ancestry…upon further analysis I have genetic markers related to Rajasthani and Punjabi.
My family is from Spain Portugal France Greece Italy and Russia ❤️ one day I will visit India 🇮🇳
look up Flamenco and Kathak dances
@@sohisflamenco is mixed with gypsy,Berber and arab culture. The moors (Berbers) had greater influence on Iberia than Arabs, gypsy was a just a small minority unlike the Berbers who crossed the strait in droves
Wow
You are welcome. Come to Rajasthan.
Please visit kailasa temple once in chhatrapati Sambhaji Nagar in Maharashtra and other caves there
Hello I am a Sinto ,from Sinti People in Germany . Thank you 😘❤️ for portraing the Sinti and Roma History, Independently of another, in this video, and the fact that you underlined the ethnic independence of both peoples is also to be credited very highly.The story of the two peoples isn't very easy, but you put a lot of effort into it, it shows and it's summarized pretty well. I also like the many Facts you brought up about each Community and the slavery & Gipsy Hunting as a sport 👍🏽 Thank you for bringing awareness to the world & Indian subcontinent about our story😘. I have absolutely nearly nothing to criticize except the word "Romani" which Ian Hancock invented and which I and many Sinti dont like.
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19;34 Athens
It's obvious
Bollywood dances are similar to gypsies
And gypsies brown skin are Indian brienne skin
I like brown skin women
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@@nationalist3227 uttralund is worst state 🤣
Good to see you my Indian brother from North West India.
I am a Dutch Yenian Traveler Yes, we are all over Europe
Don't mind all that politically correct history We know the truth
@@sjefkerolleman2094 Yenish People have nothing to do with us
My Indian family came to the United States in the late 1960’s and started living in Scranton, PA. A family acquaintance, a female Indian professor was arrested by the Scranton police because they believed she was Gypsy and had not registered with them. She wore Indian clothes and had no id. It wasn’t until she contacted her college who was able to vouch for her that she was released. My own mother was questioned by the police once.
That's sad. The police were so ignorant! I love Indians.
So, if the police suspected that someone is a gypsy (no offense meant), they could arrest them for that back then? that's horrible.
@@user-vy5uy9fo8p The racism continues over pick pocketing and begging scams. I don't condone those practices but it is not fair to say all Romani / Sinti do that. You need media approval to have a voice it seems.
What college?
@@No14me23 Marywood.
I'm an Irish traveller and we are similar to the Romani culturally speaking. My great grandfathers were tinsmiths who were called Tinkers (derogatory term in Ireland). It's insane how until recently we still had intinerant lifestyle. Our honour/shame system always reminded me of Punjabi and islamic societal norms.
grandpa wouldn't be proud of you.
The Netherlands has tinkers(kampies, woonwagenbewoners, reizigers.) too, they used to do the same jobs back in the day like sharping knives, etc, as Irish travellers did in England, these people however were mostly of Dutch stock though. Gypsies are another story here. Local councils forced them into council camps though so not many of them left these days only a handful of die hards.
@@nibbin_official9877based on what exactly?
I can switch between two spirits, Irish and Scottish, depending on what is on sale. 😅😅😅
Hey mush I'm a travler from England
I'm Romani! I'm a mix of indian, italian, turkish, middle eastern and of course - central european DNA! It's so cool!
The Indian people have greeted and sheltered Persians once and we owe this to them. I’ve never met Loris in my life but I hope that they finally find the peace they have been seeking for decades. 🇮🇷🇮🇳
I've been there... Even they have their own province in iran called lorestan. They are nice people btw
@@darrydad8288 - Those are Lurs, who are more or less Kurdish, not the same as the Loris, who are semi-nomads of Balochistan in the opposite end of Iran.
@@LuisAldamiz The video creator really should have clarified that Loris are not the same as Lors, far more people have heard of Lors, and they're gonna confuse them now
Yeah the zorostranians came here because they were persecuted amd wiped out by islamic Caliphates. so were the jews. so are the armenians...till this date. so were the hindus and Buddhists of south and central asia. i wonder why a single religion is responsible for people of so many other different religions to either convert to leave their homeland.
Are you really Iranian?
Indian Gypsies also exist, especially in Central and South India. They are also nomadic and performed ancillary services, they are called BANJARA. There tradition relates them to Rajasthan and North Sindh area
Yesss .... Banjaras
in the philippines, at least in Filipino/Tagalog, we have a word known as "banyaga" and this means "foreigner", but other local languages, it means "trade"
Yes all these descriptions were reminding of Banjaaras
@@xXxSkyViperxXx Maybe bcoz of sanskrit nomadic trading community .
B anajara in india were ancient nomadic trading community
@@preetamyadav7952 it's because malay traders brought the word they said before "berniaga". the malay traders themselves got the word either indirectly from portuguese traders saying "veniaga" or directly from sanskrit traders saying वाणिज्यक (vāṇijyaka)
I am a rajasthani ( Indian first). We migrated from Rajasthan towards the east after the partition and settled in Orissa.
I did my DNA test and it points to Sindh/Rajasthan/Afghanistan (just these three).
It is interesting how religious reasons meant converting or get killed. Not sure how my forefathers survived those times and we still practice Hinduism .
This video explains perfectly , the forced migrations.
“Get killed” 😂😂 dramatic much buddy
😂😂 😂 tribal gypsy
@@keralanaturelover196 I NOTICE U AL IN COMMENTS U ARE FULL ANTI HINDU AND DONT KNOW HINDUISM
@@keralanaturelover196kerela rice bag
mostly convert or pay tax for religion, and ofc death happens in war in taking a land or defanding a land
Roma gypsy here thank you for making this video as there’s little to non documentation on our culture also fun fact hindu and gypsy language has a lot similarities
I recently took a DNA analysis and discovered that in addition to my European ancestry, there were ancestors from India (Gujarati and Punjab) in my line. I had read that the Gypsy people had come from India, so apparently, I have some Gypsy DNA from medieval Europe in addition to French, Italian, Spanish and Swedish. An interesting mix. Very interesting video. Thanks!
That's so awesome.
Regards:a punjabi gujjar.
@Muhammad Umar Iftikhar I think so, too! I was very pleased to find out about that part of my ancestry.
My test gave me west african ancestors but also greek, balkans, scandinavian, italian, north west europe, iberic and south asian mixture. Very interesting mix too.
@@patricemoutoussamy6305 I think there is only one race--human!
@@kathleenstoin671 same here.
I met a Romani native in UK and her name was Ramona… She could speak some of the words which we speak in Rajasthan… ♥️
In Spain since we got migrations from India and Pakistan, gitanos (spanish romani) started to refer to them as cousins so I guess they knew something 😂
I'm English rumnychel tree/rook,water/pani,nose/nok
@@kiliang96 yes i have heard of Indian and also Pakistan living in the Basque and Catalan region of spain !
Hi...probably also i met this girl...she was tiny body, long black hair and dark skin...because i'm from Italy and she tell me that was in UK. Her name is Ramona.
Our Indian history book: 🙊🙈🙉🙉🙊🙈🙉🙉
But why?
@satansjihad6353!95 even a single things written about ancient indians and the great warriors of India however they wrote about invaders and they portrayed them good everyone knows how evil they were
.@@satansjihad6353becoz we r still studying Britis education not in Indian education system which Gurukul
.@@satansjihad6353fake historian like romila thapar manipulated Indian history in Congress time period... But now Modi changed
As a Sinti, thank you for making this video. I have been fighting the educational system here in the Netherlands for some time about how we did not even get mentioned at first and its great to finally see more of a change happening and videos like this that are so well researched~
@Arosh Lush Sooner or later we gonna invade little irrelevant village countries of East Europe and create Gypsystan for Romanis.
@@slashtab yes but what when did indians showed racism to roma people
@Arosh Lush 😊 it's just a game of money 👍 (after a long time and now just one more generation)
Hi there! I am Dutch myself, graduated not that long ago. it’s crazy to me that we never learned any of this during history.
❤from India
In the late 1800s Mexico, my grandmother was a little girl that was enchanted by Gypsies that had passed through her area. She followed them out of town. They threw rocks at her to keep her away because they did not want the locals to think she was being stolen.
did she told you that?
@@noiiir7312 my momma done told me
It’s so fascinating to imagine a language that’s a linguistic sibling of Gujurati/Rajasthani/Marwari/Bhili that’s predominantly spoken in Eastern Europe. The world is an interesting place.
I wish more people appreciated how much painstaking research, writing and planning goes into your videos- as fans of Asian history (and really any type of history), we’re all lucky to have someone who’s so passionate about being thorough and objective about less-covered topics. We need to get you more subscribers- let’s goooo!
Romani is closer to Punjabi, Gujarati, Sindhi, Rajasthani, Marwari and Bhili. When the Romani left India northwest India was still speaking Prakrit.
You're right that our world abounds with endless geographic ironies. I love coming across language groups in unexpected areas.
@@john.c I was in Romania recently and was stunned to see so many Indian-like faces, made me feel like I was in Northwest India. However We didn't hang out around gipsy areas because they seemed quite dangerous.
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19;34 Athens
It's obvious
Bollywood dances are similar to gypsies
And gypsies brown skin are Indian brienne skin
I like brown skin women
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@@unknownmaster5078 can u tell me more about prakrit ,like it's origin and geographical span and how it got lost
I am Armenian and the video is absolutely fascinating. Do you have more information on the Armenian loan-words in Sindhi language? It was a new discovery for me and I would love to learn more about it.
hello there
They should start making more videos on international stuff.
I hope the channel can eventually cover The Philippines - before the Spanish, and the Sultanates of the southern regions. I don't know much about it, I've just learned bits and pieces from here and there, so I know this channel will do the story justice.
Back in the late 1960s, I took an anthropology course from Rena C. Groper at Hunter College in NYC. She lived with the Romani in India for 20 years and was the one who figured out that the "Gypsies" and the Romani in India were the same people. She spoke their language fluently, as did her two children. Fascinating course.
Did she tell you they’re roving bands of parasites or are you going to have to learn that lesson in real time, like when they tell us black people are victimized but they’re the actual killers?
@@NoahBodze Your hatred of anyone that doesn't look/act like you is showing.
@@kalinystazvoruna8702 YOU believe I am superior, stupid, or else you wouldn’t be here. Don’t you know you’re presence here is a confession of who’s better?
There are no people called Romani in India.What are you talking about ???
@@valevisa8429 The original tribe was not named "Romani". I don't remember the original name of the tribe. I took this class in *1967* and Rena C. Groper was the professor who lived with them for over 20 years. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people for more information. It does not dispute what I wrote.
I'm spanish, and I'd like to say that even if in the past gypsies have been chased and abused in my country, they are now a regular part of the population, integrated, but keeping their habits, and deeply admired because of their art, which I'm very surprised no one has mentioned: they are wonderful singers and dancers. Flamenco is spanish gypsy music and dance. Also, their number is much larger than mentioned in the video (200.000? no way), they are more than 1.000.000 in Spain, over 600.000 in Romania, 200.000 in Hungary... just check it. And, there were already gypsies in Columbus third trip to America.
yES, we Spaniards are a mixture of Arab, N. African, Jewish, Romani and PROUD, mi amigo!
As an Indian living in Europe, it hurts to watch how they were constantly downgraded and discriminated upon. Much respect for not giving up and embarking their culture across borders. What a struggle it would have been!
Constantly downgraded because the refused to work, they were the laziest and biggest thieves in Europe. And they still are today
Discriminated? I from Bulgaria and most gypsies haven't payed any taxes and electricity bills from like 20-25 years. They don't let their children to school and also don't pay any fines regarding don't letting their children schooled. It's a little bit better since 2015, but there is still a lot of work to integrate them.
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you forgot to mention that Bulgarians are paying for the apartments they occupie.
their kids use school transport paid by Bulgarians. Privet busses just for them.
they dont pai for public transportation.
they are basically paid to birth children. the social and medical system works mainly for them. they dont need to work because of this.
the judicial system works for them and lows protect their crimes.
when doing crimes in the west they give us bad name to the point that when foreigner comes to Bulgaria few people asked " why are white" ? ...
integration ? they need to be expeled !
Piles of trash and junk infront of their apartments doesnt make them popular neighbors in my city.
Also the fact that they constantly try to shoplift, dont have jobs and are up super late shouting at eachother in the streets infront of where they reside.
They're the refuse of society.
Its a shame that our education system never talks about topics like these in our history textbooks
Mughals Mughals British British Mughal British !!😡
@@Mrinalini.n Hindus have no rich history. They only try to manipulate and rewrite history or claim Muslim legacies
@@mansakarimi Hahaha !!! Bhikari Mughal india aake aiyyash !!!
Go and See WORLD’s LARGEST ECONOMIES data available on various sites from 1 AD onwards
THE RED FORT WAS BUILT BY TOMAR DYNASTY IN 1050 Ad!!!
How DID AKBAR ORGANISE MEENA BAZAAR IN RED FORT !!😂😂😂😂
SO CALLED shahjehan built iT 😂😂😂 GO AND CHECK ELEPHANT STATUES AND HINDU DESIGN MOTIFS ALL OVER THE RED FORT AND ENTRANCE TOO !!! Statues are allergic to Muslim religion 😂😂😂😂
@@mansakarimi th-cam.com/video/kFl4YdvDE_8/w-d-xo.html
India and Indians, two things in the world show great tolerance for suffering.
praying for all the minorities being oppressed in India right now
@@phillipholland6795 f off with your concern trolling
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Show concern for the one in muslim nation
Because in India , muslim population is well over 200M
@@phillipholland6795 muslims ruled India for 800 years, so they aren't oppressed
The europeans are not even guilty 1% it was stupid to move to Europe with a different culture back then, we didnt come to you you came to us things like this happened in history
The romani didnt just use regular iron for swords etc. It was an alloy mix with scrap metals into iron which made tools rust free, lighter and more flexible for longer time. British records identified the extensive use of "Wootz steel" in india, 1790s as an alloy mix while industrial England had just started to look for proper ratio and preparing the mould.
I admire this effort to make the Romani and Sinti history understandable.
Being an Indian, these questions were in my mind for many years and I had come to draw similar conclusions.
Thank you.
And welcome back to the land of endless quest and eternal wisdom!
Om, Prem and Shanti!
Finally someone made an informative video on the Romani's Indian Origin, it's so good to see people getting to learn more about such forgotten people! Thanks, Odd Compass :)
Trust me they're not forgotten. They make they're presence known everywhere they go
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19;34 Athens
It's obvious
Bollywood dances are similar to gypsies
And gypsies brown skin are Indian brienne skin
I like brown skin women
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@@Bolognabeef How?
@@sublimefermion2205 pickpockets and catalytic converter theft
@@sublimefermion2205 Stealing, fraud, littering, settling with their caravans on someone else's land, basically any illegal shit you can think of, they do it
There is a Banjara Community still in India who never settles at one place and make their living by travelling all over India & selling their beautiful crafts where ever they go but we never had any problem with them infact they are considered as blessed by gods due to their high skill in Music, Trade, Handcraft, Herbal Medicine & Black Magic.
My dad is Romanichal and looks Indian. But since my moms polish and only a little Romani, I look whiter than most. Horrifying history, but it shows strength on our part. Jay Hind
Are you still a hindu??
@@youtubersdub4339 I am, my dad still thinks the dharma is really cool and agrees with it
@@bridgetking4553 wow❤❤ I will request you to please read bhagwat geeta also..
Jai Shree Krishna🚩🙏
@@youtubersdub4339 I have read half of it so far, am really excited to read Vedas also.
@@bridgetking4553 huge respect to you & your family🙏🙏🙏🙏 and please also encourage other romani brothers & sisters to read 🙏🚩🚩
Amazing history...thanks for the information.
Here in my country, India, the equivalent of this community is called "Banjara" and they are largely a nomadic group. They live on the fringe but there's no Banjara-phobia here. I have interacted with some of them selling herbs in Delhi, Mumbai and Jaipur.
As someone of Indian descent, I feel for the suffering that the Roma and Sinti people have been through. I hope they're able to find a place to practice their culture in peace without persecution.
I think India has recognised them and invited them back home?!
@@a.p1675 would like to see them return to rajasthan, their homeland!
@@a.p1675 now Europe is their home . The lived there for hundreds of years they have no problem coming to India or staying there but now they feel Europe as their home you cannot do that. Dosent matter indian is indian you don't have to be in india to be indian
@@dustybawls7085 they have no home. Nomads. They go were the money is.
@@a.p1675 then why are you suggesting them to come to India 💀
The treatment of these groups in Europe has varied across the centuries. My grandmother grew up in rural Ireland and she remembers the 'Gypsies' as tinkerers, tinsmiths, menders and traders in small goods. Their reputation as useful was so widespread that, if you broke something, 'better find a Gypsy" was a common response.
Now that everything is made of plastic, repairing metal goods is not so necessary. Maybe an itinerant community of 3-D printers will grow up to meet that gap in the market.
Your grandmother was talking about Irish travelers which are an entirely different group of itinerant people & are genetically Irish.
Going off on a slight tangent here but, in regard to metalwork and India, did you know that in the 1790s English experts declared Indian wootz (the steel from which Damask swords were made) to be the best steel in the world and Sheffield etc. copied its techniques whilst steelmaking (as with all other manufacturing - see below) was was suppressed in India to keep it a Captive Market pauperized by the piratical British who (according to research published by Columbia University Press) in 2018 stole US$45 Trillion from India over 190 years of occupation. Prior to British occupation, Mughal India had the world's largest economy with over 25% of global GDP. In 1616 English ambassador Thomas Roes described Delhi as the Treasury of the World. Indian cottons dominated the world market (revolutionizing European clothing), and it was the silver drain due to India's successful exports that was a major factor behind British conquest with its systematic elimination of Indian textile competition including breaking weavers' fingers and cutting off the thumbs of Dhaka Muslin weavers (Dhaka Muslin which cost many times the price of silk can no longer been made due to this). As mid-19th Century historians, H.H. Wilson and Friedrich List both noted, Britain's cotton-based Industrial Revolution could not have taken off without the systematic destruction of competition from cheaper and superior quality Indian handloom cottons - even with steam power. Similarly, the oldest seaworthy ship in the Royal Navy HMS Trincomalee was built by an Indian company in Bombay in 1817 (of superior Indian Teak) but British shipbuilders made parliament pass laws stopping shipbuilding in India. In 1770, the EIC started shipping Indian opium to China which brought in 1/7 of UK export revenues for 140 years.
Furthermore, whereas Ireland suffered one great manmade famine created by the British, India was subjected to around 3 dozen such British famines killing tens of millions in British occupied parts of India. It started with the Great Bengal Famine of 1770 which killed up to 1/3 of Bengal Province (then inc. Bihar and Orissa - some 10 million) which William Thackeray's relative Richard Becher had predicted due to British Rapacity. At the same time Robert Clive returned to Britain with his 'loot' (Hindi for plunder) as the richest non-monarch in Europe and his East India Co. mafia henchmen became the new super rich 'nobs' (from nawabs/'nabobs'). This loot largely financed the Industrial Revolution. The 1770 Famine caused a Credit Crunch in Europe in 1772 when dozens of banks collapsed in days due to lack of stolen Indian wealth financing European projects. Adam Smith had to delay publication of his Wealth of nations.
In 1877 Cornelius Walford showed that there were 30 famines in just 120 years in Brit-occupied India compared to ony 17 famines in the whole of India in the previous 2,000 years. This is because native rulers (including Indianised Muslims) acted to prevent and alleviate famine with imports of grain, rationing and prohibition of hoarding/profiteering. The British created famines by hoarding and profiteering during droughts, exporting India's grains for British Food Security and Profit and even preventing charitable aid to famine victims. Disraeli's regime set up Death Camps for victims of the 1877 South Indian Famine which gave less starvation rations than Buchenwald for hard labour to famine victims. 94% of inmates died with 5-7 million in total dying whilst record amounts of Indian foodgrains were exported for British Food Security and profit. Disraeli also organized the biggest feast in human history - the 1877 Delhi Durbar - feasting 60,000 for a week [to mark Vicky being named Empress to match her German cousin's 'Kaiser' title] whilst 100,000 a week starved in Madras Province. Famine survivors were coerced into the new slavery of indentured labour in the Caribbean.
Such British Crimes Against Humanity continued into the 20th Century. In 1901 The Lancet calculated conservatively from the Census that 19 million had died of starvation in Western India in the 1890s due to such 'Let the Poor Indians Starve' policies - 25% of the UK's wheat came from Western India at the time - industrial Britain was not self-sufficient in food until after 1945. In 1936 George Orwell wrote in Road to Wigan Pier that 100 million Indians must be forced to the edge of starvation so that the British can live in comfort. In 1942-3 White Supremacist War Criminal Winston Churchill - who had actually spent the 1930s campaigning against Indian Independence (not against Hitler) -warning that the British working classes would starve without occupying India - was responsible for the first 1939-45 war atrocity actually labelled a 'holocaust' - the 1942-3 manmade Bengal Famine which again killed millions (although India as a whole produced surplus foodgrains). None of the wartime rationing of food etc. used for White British was applied to India. After British censorship of the huge death tolls were broken in 1943 after over a year - WC acted to prevent Food Aid from the USA, Canada, Australia and even Japan reaching his victims - diverting the food to Britain to manipulate postwar prices and feed ex-Axis Italians. Even Hitler had allowed in Red Cross Food Aid to famine-struck Greece in 1941.
@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 All worth saying, but this is the wrong place.
@@faithlesshound5621 There is no Right place to put such knowledge! Having lived in Britain since 1967, I know how these facts are suppressed by the British media and so that it gets heard - esp. as the British were demonizing German Crimes Against Humanity on Jan 27th and have been demonizing Stalin for a much smaller manmade famine, the so-called 'Holodomor' in Ukraine as well as the BBC demonizing Indian PM Narendra Modi whilst hushing up their own Crimes Against Humanity [as with the focus on the 1947 Partition violence ignoring how the British mismanagement, leaving India whilst the exact new borders had still not been declared etc. - and the RAF strafing Indian crowds in 1946 etc.]. I have even included this information [partly as endnotes] in my scholarly books on the scientific and metaphysical understanding of Consciousness which are actually being read by professors all over the world in places such as Oxford and Harvard and many in Germany [they have asked for copies - even though I put in a warning to British people that my work exposes British Crimes Against Humanity which were deflected from by historians such as James Mill (who became 2nd in command of the EIC) claiming that India was a Land of Eternal Poverty and Famine supposedly due to 'Hinduism'!
As a Gypsy, who have been in touch with people who are researching us. They told me we came from Egypt through Persia. (Wich Indeed included parts of India.) And than went west. After the Sinti split, and than the Romani came.
2:21 dude, you nailed it. Most of south Asians were Hindus and Buddhists, but because of taxes and discrimination they started becoming Muslims, this was confirmed by many foreign writers who visited ancient india
Isla spread in punjab and sindh more by pirs and saints these areas were slowly turned muslim even in pre partition punjab and sindh a lot of hindu and sikhs lived there
I did my linguistic anthropological Master’s work on the Romani people and this video is EXCELLENT! Thank you for such high quality, respectful work! The dozens of Romani language varieties around the world are a treasure trove of borrowings and preservation from the Indic substrata. Great video. Te aven baxtale!
Do you find evidance of a military origine ? What did you learn ?
@@coryparni3620 I am a roma and I actually want to know that too😂
is your thesis available to read anywhere?
@@QuestionsAnswerz sashin mush. Mandi romanichal.
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Love you from a Romani woman in England ❤
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Europeans talking about Gypsies: 👹🔥🚀🔫
Your art style is absolutely stunning.
Thanks for bringing some light on Indian Subcontinents history. Roma and Sinti people were mostly taken as slaves . When no of slaves became huge they were told to go west. Cause if they went east chances are they would have come back to India.
Also Many people fled east and South. E.g. Agarwal community spread to entirety of India to escape those brutal and inhuman invasions.
Rajputs and others fought a lot but whenever they got defeated ,results were devastating for the people.
Not mentioned is that some did go east, into Siberia. I took the Trans Siberian Railroad and one of the stranger experiences was to encounter Gypsiss begging at a small train station in Siberia. One had a Latin cross around her neck, and looked unlike anything Slavic, so I pointed at her and asked "Roma?" and she nodded yes. Our Intourist guide said that indeed there were Gypsy groups, and that their lives were separate, with the men not doing military service, and the children not going to school. She said that they begged for food and for money to buy milk for the children.
The Muslim butchers have done no good to this world.
Great video but "why go west" needs a correction.
They immigrated both east and west, while only in the east they were significantly more assimilated.
I'm from Bangladesh and in Bangladesh, they are called "Bede/Bedey" or Bedeni as feminine. The word itself is clearly of a foreign origin as many north Indo-Aryan languages are gendered while Bengali and it's recent predecessors are not.
A rough translation for Bede would be "river gypsies". In Eastern Indian subcontinent, their preferred mode of transport for their itinerant lifestyle were boats.
Thnx for the info, always wondered about their origin.
We are not nomads and never have been. That's a euphemism for antigypsyism and enforced nomadism.
@@Ricardo_Vale apologies. Itinerant community would make much more sense for the Bede people.
And north and south too
What bullshit. They are known for their caravans! The word "car" and "van" originated bcoz of these gypsies bcoz Europeans were fascinated with their lifestyle of "living on wheel" that gave rise to today's Recreation vehicle industry !!
Outstanding Reporting! Thank You!
Found out recently my grandma was Romani, been diving into her family's heritage, thank you for the history lesson 👍
You hit this video right on the head. Its very accurate. Thank you!!
My mom's side is Roma gypsy. My grandparents and great grandparents where from there. Interesting history my family has. I am proud of it too.
Two famous Romanis are : Ricardo Quaresma (Portuguese footballer) & Nairobi from the Netflix show Money Heist (real name Alba Flores)
You can also watch the documentary “Flamenco India” 😊
welcome to the Indian family. :D
You look fully European.
You are always welcome your ancient home 🇮🇳stay safe💖🙏
I am Roma decent. Thank you for explaining our history. ❤
How is it there mate? Where are you from?
U should be come punjab
Your facial features looks like indian
Go to Indian Punjab and try to get a role in Punjabi movie.
Thank God ur ancestors moved
Fun fact, there are gypsy tribes all over India too. i.e they did spread into India from their original areas. I am from the south and there is a well known gypsy tribe that were hired as mercenaries to guard a fort in an area near my own origin (they had originally come from the north) and then became more migratory after its collapse some centuries later after. But they still hold their fort-clan name and the stories regarding it. They have very unique customs not local to the area too. So not all gypsies spread only to the west, they spread in all directions, its just that they stick out a lot more in the West.
I don't know if they are the original gypsy people but they are alot similar, we call them "Banjara".
They are not Gipsy, they are nomadic Indian tribes. The term Gipsy refers specifically to the ones that went to Europe
@@BG-it7hb Maybe you should use the term "Traveller," which lacks ethnic connotations. In the British Isles there are many travelling communities, which have overlapping but different customs and also ethnic origins.
There are the Romanies or Romanichal, but there are also Irish Travellers and Highland Travellers whose language contains Gaelic elements. There are also New Age Travellers who seem to have developed from the Hippies and attendees at music festivals of the 1960s.
Margaret Thatcher sent the police to raid the New Age Travellers and the midsummer solstice celebrants at Stonehenge. Right wing politicians and newspapers continue to persecute the Roma as well as the latter groups.
Thatcher and John Major brought back mass unemployment and expanded that to include homelessness and begging on the street for all communities. Now we have tented shanty towns in all major cities and also associated with Amazon warehouses.
The right to live by the roadside is constantly being eaten away, and local authorities exert themselves to stop caravans going onto unused land.
The law even forbids people to settle on land they own: permission to do so is usually refused, even when there is a legal need to provide spaces for caravan dwellers. The police conduct raids to evict families from caravans on their own land.
Just recently, the right to camp in a tent on unused land without permission from a landowner in England has been removed: it's still allowed in Scotland.
The people who operate circuses and travelling funfairs are itinerants, who overlap somewhat with the gypsies. I should also mention the almost extinct group of families who operated barges on the canal systems.
While all this persecution goes on, people from the majority community with houses of their own are free to roam the UK in caravans and motor homes in their free time, and slum landlords rent out caravans on their own land to those who would otherwise be homeless.
@@daksh6388 Which state you are from?
@Daksh that's true banjara, lambhadi community and many names for their community and I am from telangana Hyderabad and I have a lot friends from thier community and very nice people but it's very sad what happened with them
About time we are recognized as proud Indians.
I know so many romani gypsies and when you hear some of the basic words they use a few are as close to Hindi as you can imagine practically the same. They even understand the history of being from india
Hindi itself was created around the 18th century so that indicates you're lying
@@siddhantahuja351 Lemme guess, you're Muslim, right?
Hindi language is different from Punjabi,Sindhi, gujurati and rajsthani languages like marwari, Mewari,etc.
@@siddhantahuja351 and the words used to create hindi arent from the same family of languages? He said they are similar but its his imagination that they are same lol
Hindi is a recent language. You've got no idea. Moreover, there are many ethnic groups in india. No way a kashmiri is related to a rajasthani
Wow, it's been a while! What a great topic to cover! I love the geographic ironies embedded in the etymologies of the exonyms/derogatory terms used by all the cultures that came in contact with the Romani. Degree/distance of migration does that for ya. And competition in trades and artisan crafts in corporatists societies, plus anti-itinerancy suspicions by sedentary cultures will do the rest in dehumanization. Thank you for covering this fascinating history of migration beyond the etymologies and folklore.
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It's obvious
Bollywood dances are similar to gypsies
And gypsies brown skin are Indian brienne skin
I like brown skin women
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Gypsy or Banjaara/बंजारा we say in India, Gypsy community are shown in most of the Indian movies on King's and Queen's.
We as Indian's never paid any attention to Gypsy shown in movie's, because somehow they are still in our subconscious it's not something odd for us.
Thomas Shelby is Indian then 😂
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@@whois_historianfrom his mom side
@@rickfresher oh
Nope, he is not.
That show is a disservice to Romani as well. I don't know how they couldn't even google this.
Irish travellers have no connection with Romani.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers
I’d heard that Gypsies were Indian but, knew little of them, thank you for this short history, it provides a starting point. BTW I love the animations, I grew up in the 1950’s - 1960’s with wonderfully illustrated cartoons and comic books
This channel deserves millions of subscribers.. beautiful animations with amazing story telling..Thanks for existing,Old compass ❤️
Yes He did a very good Job ❤️
No, it's bullshit.
India is the only country which stood up against becoming Islamic inspite of 800 years of Islamic rule.
That is the power of Sanatan Dharma 💪💪
We're still getting attacked, but we retaliate strongly until our usual opponent cry and play victim😂😂😂
Spain completely regained their territory from Muslims, India lost vast regions to Muslims in the form of Pakistan, Bangladesh and some part of Afghanistan.
Chinese resisted as well.
the iberians over here like "damn guess let's forget about the reconquista"
@@k-force8325you didn’t retaliate bro
My dna traces back to India 🇮🇳 I’m a gypsy
What's your religion?
@@eroguroknightaffcorce Christianity
You are brown?
This channel has great content - and very well made. Top notch history lessons.
Thanks for this video. Even as a Sindhi i never knew about the sinti people
I had never heard the term 'Sinti' until watching this upload. According to Wikipedia, it is not universally agreed that 'Sindhi' and 'Sinti' are etymologically related, but many Sinti themselves believe they are, and identify Sindh as their ancestral region.
Majority of Sindus were converted to islam by Sultans& Muhals since 11-1200ce onward its the reason both Sinti & Roma tried to escape.
May be if they went to SouthIndia where 99% avoided it (only 70-75% of Andra) due to geography & strong Chalukiah, Chola, Pallava etc Forces.
Because you people are mostly converted , so Islamic republic of Pakistan doesn't include the history of Sinti people
@@nnes759 even thhose fell after some time.
@@sambarvada Thank you for responding to my comment, however, your comment cannot be deciphered/ make any sense, can u rewrite it like "even though the Sinti people or Aryans fell to Muslims" " it was the cause for.." etc in two sentence or so + put noun, verb object etc in proper place plz, so I can understand & respond appropriately.
That word sounded familiar, so I looked it up:
"The name Athinganoi, a later variant form of which is Atsinganoi (ἀτσίγγανοι), came to be associated with the Romani people who first appeared in the Byzantine Empire at the time. Atsinganoi is the root word for "cigano", "çingene", "cigány", "zigeuner", "tzigan", "țigan", and "zingaro", words used to describe members of the Romani people in various European languages. Today many of these words are still used in a derogatory sense, albeit others are the most common exonym for them in a given language."
Didacoy or Didacoys is a UK dialect for Gypsy or Gypsies.
Travellers are for Irish Travellers.
It doesn't matter, they already tarnished the names Rom/Roma/Romani/Romany/Romanies already and Romanians also got the bad rep as well due to the name confusion. Source: I'm Romanian.
Great INDIA.. I am so devastated to know about Gypsies
Thank you ❤ The main reason why the Gypsies weren't welcome in Europe was because of the rigid medieval guild system. Gypsies were skilled craftsmen in many trades, creating unwanted competition for European guilds. For that reason, they were banned from exercising trade, forcing them to earn their living by fringe occupations such as music, fortune telling, horse trading or crime. Their different racial origin did assist in marginalizing them but the main reason was the competition they presented for European trade guilds.
Woah! This was a great video. I had no idea about the connection between Roma people and India. But when you mentioned Sinti, it started to make sense.
So many of us don't know and will never know our genetic history hidden in time.
My Mother French background very fair skin but Dad's family came from the area of Hungary.
My Sister's some fair others darker always said Dad was from the Gypsies.
I myself fair as a child tan dark and it's funny that I pursue the Hindu style exercises as a senior.
Peace for everyone in these troubling times.
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U mean yoga
@@akkkkk813 Nah. Hindu style is more apt since yOgA has been appropriated & distorted beyond measure. It comes from Holy Hindu scriptures, simple as that.
Take a dna test and your genetic history is no longer hidden
Many indians are fair skinned with no tan at all but slight yellowish tinge. In my family we are very fair skinned, many indians look like westerns but that does not mean we are from the west. India is just diverse given that indian climate is different at different places.
Love from India ❤. Thank you for this information now onwards whenever we visit countries we will meet our roma/gypsy brothers 🤗🤗
SUBSCRIBED. Well done!! Incredibly educational and entertaining the entire episode. Thank You!!!
Come back Romani relatives of our country India....we miss u love ❤️
Please take them. We don’t want them in Europe.
They're in London now
@@Cormano980dude you in london have muslims gipsys hindu black asians is like a little usa ☺️
Not only in London...most percent in Bulgaria, America, Brazil also
There's a French documentary made in the 90s called Latcho Drom (which means 'safe journey' I think) and, without any narration, it simply depicts various Romani groups working and playing (music) from India all the way to Spain. Worth a watch, or even just a listen to the soundtrack.
One thing that is fascinating is, if you play the album from start to finish, east to west, the musical style flows, and yet the end sounds Spanish while the start sounds Indian, indicating the key role played by the itinerants in these various musical traditions.
We rented that film on Netflix long ago. Very fascinating film!
Flamenco, Kathak dance are related.
@@iviana1367 Fascinating.
where can i see it
@@HN-kr1nf we found it on Netflix
I've always found the unique culture of the gypsies to be very interesting and I always wondered where it came from thank you for this video.
A large group of gipsies used to come to my village in Punjab every year and stayed in a plot behind my school. I used to see ladies making each other hair and making really creative designs by pleating hair. People used to save all their broken buckets made of metal for repairs. They also used to put a layer of silver metal in Brass pots process called kalee in Punjabi. A lady used to come to see my gran every time she visited and I remember calling her Massi (mum's sister) as she used to say that she came to see her sister.
This is this first video from your channel that got recommended to me probably because I looked up Roma history on google a couple of months ago. Great job with the content and graphics! Especially the part about how unyielding and gruesome the Islamist colonisers were to Indian subcontinent and our local cultures. They destroyed centuries worth of libraries and knowledge as well along with farmlands, religious institutions etc. It makes complete sense why swaths of Indian population chose to flee from the obsessive cruelty of muslim colonisers.
Many Indians converted to Islam to escape the oppressino of Hinduism which blames them for being born poor. "Must have deserved it due to bad karma!"
They fled towards muslim lands not indian lands
You’re forgetting Christian brutality against the Romanini.
@@mint8648 becoz they were either sold into it or move with the stronger party and through muslim territory they made their way to further west.Many of them moved towards east but most of them towards west mostly through slavery and chaotic migrations and appointments by muslim rulers ....also they had to protect themselves from jiziya so they agreed to work with the muslim rulers.
@@mint8648 It wasn't just the Romani and Sinti who migrated. There were also massive migrations of Hindus from the Indo-Gangetic plains into Southern India, North East India and the Himalayan regions to escape the Islamic colonisers.
This art is amazing the background music is so good. This video had so much information in 15 minutes too it felt like I was watching an hour of content in a way shorter time
I am an English rumnychel (English Roma version) it's true that we didn't know exactly where we were from and it's amazing the work you folks are doing thank u
Like Roma Communities, there are still communities related to it in India. They are now Sindhis, Rajasthanis and Marwadis. And like them, they are Businessman and Traders and they migrated all across India due to it.
After so long but worth the wait. High quality in-depth research ,superb graphics and sound design ,
Truely this channel is a top notch ,hope it reaches to more and more people.
Keep the good work going ❤️
Thankyou old compass for telling the story of Roma. I am a Roma disend who is ashamed to tell people I am Roma, I live in England by the way❤️
Don't ashamed!
Roma means beautiful in Sanskrit, sanskrit is the language of your ancestors from India so never ashamed and be proud to your root.
U r not alone, we are with you...Blessings to you from a Hindu brother. 🙏
Well historically many Mideaster and Eurooean cultures were harsh t o migrants. Hope this has changed for the better. More diversity means more ideas and trade.👍
Hackman, your outlook is extremely naive, you're probably very young and haven't had time to gain enough life experiences to realize what you said is extremely dumb and will cause tensions and violence if/where implemented, like in the United States.
Love from Himachal Pradesh 🇮🇳
Come here brother!!!
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Great video with factual and easy to follow information 👍🏽
Thanks for video. All the love and support to Romani people ❤️
I hope you will find a permanent home in India.
I've been waiting for this for months. What a pleasant surprise!
I’m Hungarian, Romanian as well as Romani and it’s important to talk about our culture not to blame Europeans and guilting them but just to educate everyone in general to treat our culture better. Screaming at white Europeans doesn’t make them listen. It makes the situation worse.
Yea yes I agree
All your ancestors following Hinduism culture
Europeans stereotype, oppress them, and don’t want to give many jobs and opportunities. Nothing ever changes when you give someone a pass on their bad deeds
Are you honest with yourself ? because fact is that stealing is tradition in gypsy culture .
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ODD COMPASS I love your channel ❤️❤️
The original Gypsy / Romani were from india but not all of them are. many people from different races and cultures joined the culture and it is obvious that the Romani people today do not look purely indian or do not look indian at all.
Okay rat
Travellers have nothing with Roma and Sinti together
Roma and Sinti Look very Indian in time of the holocoust when you Look Pictures but todey there are very mix darkskinned light skinned
As a Romani thanks for this video, keep up the good work.
❤️from india bro
You can't be Romani you are either Sinti or Roma , so what are you
@@SintiSchneck I'm a mix of both which is why I used the generalised term.
@@akkkkk813 Hello from England brother.
Roma means beautiful in Sanskrit. Romani means a beautiful person in Sanskrit
Romale means "people" in Gypsy
I am glad that many of these information about our past (read history) still prevails and we get to learn/know about them.
My ancestors are Rajasthani however I was born and brought up in Odisha (Eastern part of India), guess we moved East instead of West. I have had a very exploratory life so far staying in multiple places in India either for education purpose or work and recently moved to Ireland because I wanted to further explore the world (outside India). I don't really know what I am seeking from life and why is it so difficult for me to settle in one place. Whenever, I read about gypsies, I get so intrigued about their lifestyle, their stories, dressing style, jewelries, etc. There is something very mystique about them and I feel I relate to them a lot. I strongly feel I have the same DNA (would definitely consider testing it one day). I am glad I watched this video, I had no clue about the Indian origin story- I guess, we learn something new each day. I wish I get to meet and connect with some gypsy people in EU!
Thanks for making this video I wanted to learn a bit more but not many people talk about it
One of the best and thoroughly researched videos on the Romani people that I've watched. Bravo! 💪🙏👍
See my videos proving Hinduism is wrong if you are a free thinker.
@@scintillam_dei Will do. 👍
@@scintillam_dei why are you not replying to my comments on your channel
@@scintillam_dei lol.. fall in line kiddo ,you must be 10 millionth person to hv said that and made a video on this . didnt you just see the video and learn anything ??.. no matter what happens sanatan dharma will survive .
@@riteshvizz9786 Why are you upset that I said what I did, and proved what I did in my videos on how Hinduism is absurd and satanic? After all, your religion says all that happpens is COMMANDED by Brahman to happen, so you are fighting Brahman by fighting ME. LOL! You boast that ignorance persists. That's all you got?.... Well, there will be an end to Hinduism, and it's called Jesus' return. I already proved the Bible right in my video on the prophecy of Europe conquering the world.
Dude, I am so happy I stumbled on your channel! For the first time ever I have some kind of framework for the origin of the Roma people!
Gonna watch all your video from the first to the last. :)
I think that they not only traveled to the West. They also traveled to the East or South India. My parents recently (10-15 years ago) got in touch with the nomadic people who maintain our family lineage. These people are from Rajasthan, India. And these people's job is to travel from one place to another like nomads and they enroll people in their records. Kinda like updating the lineage. They came to my house in Mumbai from Rajasthan to update the records of our lineage. My sister was 5-6 years old and my cousin was also born that year. So these people came to our house to get them both enrolled in the lineage recoreds. These people ate with us, slept in our house for couple of days and then they went to some other place after taking a small donation drom my parents. Probably repeating the same to wherever next they went.
What i know about my ancestors is that they migrated a long time ago from Rajasthan because of drought (and maybe wars). They showed us our lineage from 400 - 500 years until myself and my sister.
I don't exactly know if i am myself a gypsy or not. But it will be interesting to know. I should probably get a DNA test.
I once met a gypsy in France about 8 years ago, white skinned by appearance, he was a waiter in a café. he showed me something interesting, in his wallet he carried one single Indian currency note, perhaps to remind them of their origins.. It was an interesting meeting which helped me understand how far our people had travelled. It said that most of Russia and former soviet republics were all following or near the culture that is practiced till today in Bharat.. that's a read for another time I guess..
1000 years of suffering for the Indian subcontinent.
Do you know any other people who suffered in this world ?
@@valevisa8429 Jews, natives of the America, the Africans.
@@gunjaneighteen All humans,no matter whey they lived,suffered in this world.Some more,some less.Indians don't make any exception.
@@valevisa8429 go Gaslight someone else
@@gunjaneighteen As you wish my lord.
Wow at least someone showed we are first defenders of India proud to descendent's of warrior kannadigas mighty chalukyas
ಜೈ ಭುವನೇಶ್ವರಿ✨❤️
Now a days inside India the Brahmins are hunted and had to become refugees in the west. Examples, Sundar Pichai (google CEO), Subramaniyam(FedEx CEO), Satya Nadella (Microsoft CEO), Narasimhan (Starbucks CEO), Indira Nooyi (former Pepsi CEO), Vasant Narasiman (Novartis CEO) and the list goes on. However, inside India these guys don't stand a chance. The Economist wrote a big article about these new wave of Indian refugees because of the quota system there.
It’s so sad how easy people hate and are afraid of cultures and people they don’t understand.
One of the greatest produced history videos i have ever seen on youtube bravo! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
One of the best informed channels on indian history , as indian I liked it very much
Thanks for explaining our history
Good summary of Gypsy history. Like any other situation in history, the nation being persecuted is not completely innocent. I have had Gypsy friends, but let's face it, there is a large criminal element within that community. Especially their aggressive begging practices and pickpocketing are a big problem. I remember how in Poland I gave one migrant Gypsy some money and soon about 20 Gypsies surrounded me pushing on me, even going into a church after me. I have witnessed many similar situations and the crime rate among Gypsies is higher than other communities. This doesn't justify any killings or official discrimination, but it means that many people will avoid Gypsies not because of who they are, but because of what many of them do. Overall, Gypsies are definitely a blessing to Europe because of their rich culture