The Irishman feels like the epilogue to a life lived to the fullest, yet a life that ultimately feels unfulfilling. A brilliant meditation on old age, regret and betrayal. Scorsese, we bow to you.
The Irishman compared to Goodfellas is just like Once Upon a Time in the West compared to The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. It revisits the well trodden path of an old exciting classic in a more mature and honest way.
Well, if I could do such garbage at age 80, maan. I guess that's not what people call Alzheimer. Learn to appreciate stuff buddy, for your own sake. Wish you happy holidays
This movie definitely feels like a swan song to Scorsese's previous works. It really made me rethink to all of those previous movies and somewhat even my life. It felt like I was living through with Frank Sheeran. In this case, I'd say the length really helped the movie and seeing it all in one sitting is definitely the best way to experience it. I want so much to make a video on this movie myself too. BTW watching Goodfellas after The Irishman added a whole new meaning to it for sure.
@pyropulse LOL go easy on me man. What part of "somewhat even" was I not clear about. I do try to relate the messages movies like this give with my life. Who said only Aristotle is capable of that? r/iamverysmart smh
pyropulse you weird bro relax lmao. You know what people have serious inferior complexity issue? People like you who take there time out they day to say some weird shit and come at somebody else when they did nothing to you. You’re not intellectual at all. You’re ignorant.
Goodfellas is like a speeding corvette. Beautiful car recklessly driving its way into a crash and subsequent demise. The Irishman is like a Cadillac slowly depreciating and breaking down as time goes on. What was once a beautiful car now worthless after all the years and effort you’ve spent keeping it going..
Colin Sushiboy only because this generation doesn’t appreciate art. I myself am a deep thinker and The Irishman put me in a mood for like 24 hours. Emotionally speaking, Goodfellas just wasn’t deep like it’s counterpart.
@@jarredoliveira3766 You had to ruin an okay analogy with some 'this generation' tirade. Art has existed since almost the dawn of man. We have art dating back thousands of years that still exists to this day. And you think this generation - the generation with the best access to knowledge, information and communication - somehow collectively lacks the ability to appreciate art in ways that all previous generations didn't lack this ability? Give me a break lol. I'm part of this generation and I loved the Irishman too. I won't self-anoint myself as a deep thinker or brag about some emotional 24 hours in a state sort of thing, but I enjoyed myself seeing it as part of London film festival, having my first legally obtained drink in one hand & free popcorn in the other. If there is any generational disconnect though it would likely be due to the mature retrospective take on the gangster life that the movie offers, *not* because of a generation failing to appreciate art. I mean the video essay itself is a success of the TH-cam gen, and Scorsese is mainstream hardly arthouse or anything only cinephiles can appreciate
I saw someone else point this out before, but scorceses work seems to show ever higher echelons of mob life. Mean streets -> Low level street hoods trying to get noticed. Goodfellas -> 'working class' mobsters Casino -> 'Upper Class' mobsters And the Irishman shows the dudes at the very top.
Yes, a huge takeaway I got from this was no matter how powerful any of these bosses were, ultimately leading this life leads you to one of two things: getting whacked or rotting in jail.
Goodfellas: "What do you do?" "What?" "What do you do?" "I'm in construction" "I don't feel like you're in construction" "Well, I'm a union delegate" The Irishman: "I heard you paint houses" "I do my own carpentry work too" Two great films. Well done Scorsese (and everyone else who helped)
I think it was for the best that he wasn't involved. Allowed the Irishman to stand on its own feet rather than being an attempt to recapture what made Goodfellas good or to profit off of that film's rep. Also allowed people like Stephen Graham to take the spotlight for his largest career role. Like The Irishman is a retrospective of the gangster genre & the careers of all involved, but it's *not* Goodfellas Pt 2, you know?
Ray Liotta could have been better because he is 10 years younger than De Niro, it would have elp in some of the scenes he was younger. but Ray Liotta had plastic surgery a few years ago and his face looks all fucked now.
It feels like the conclusion to a trilogy, starting with Goodfellas, introducing these themes and ideas about violence and excess with a fresh young perspective. To be continued with casino, which expands the same themes much like a sequel would do, introducing hints of doubt that it may not be worth it all, showing a slightly more matured take. The Irishman feels like a conclusion, continuing with the same themes and drawing lots of visual parallels to both, this time from the perspective of an older man. It feels like a natural and perfect trilogy.
Totally agree, partially why I love WOW so much. Its like the Wall street version of Goodfellas. Less murder, more drugs. Still shot/presented in his fast-paced, quickcut style that drew to him in the first place. Irishman was good but to me, missing the fast cuts, zoom-ins, etc. The look wasn't exactly what I was hoping for but still good.I say, if you want a Scorsese movie with Irish in the mob, watch The Departed. Amazing film.
Nah, it won't be. Scorsese has still got all the brilliance and craft in him that he had decades ago, and never seems to be short of projects he wants to work on. Sidney Lumet, another great filmmaker that was in some ways the precursor of Scorsese, kept making films into his mid-80s.
It certainly won’t be his last but it certainly felt a hell of a lot like it. The Irishman has a final sort of feeling, that’s probably way it sort of feels like his last. The only person in this film who I think that we won’t see anymore after this film is Joe Pesci, The Irishman will definitely be Pesci’s final film. But, in my eyes, it’s the absolute best way to go out, his performance is just magnificent!
This is an absolutely wonderful video. Another link I found between Goodfellas and The Irishman is in the death dates; only a few characters die later than 1978-1980, showcasing how severe the generational shift in the mob was. Almost everybody from Frank's generation were killed to make space for the newcomers (Henry's generation) who focused moreso on selling drugs. This leads really well into the themes of both Goodfellas and The Irishman - Goodfellas is about that generational shift, and The Irishman is about the general shift of time, and the grim deaths of many gangsters.
Actually Goodfellas was in Frank's generation of mobsters. Remember Henry Hill was caught around 1980 (plane chasing Henry's car scene). Frank was also imprisoned in 1980 after Hoffa's death. Everyone in Casino also got caught in the late 70s. And all those other mobsters also got killed/imprisoned in 1978-80 (in the Irishman). So I guess there was a law crackdown on the Mob around that time.
@@Trx-ep7rg I think I misspoke in my eager to share the detail - I didn't necessarily mean "generation" as in a generation of age, but rather a generation of thought. Goodfellas focuses on this change in thought, from the old-timers like Paulie, making their businesses off protection money, to the newcomers selling drugs, like Henry. The death dates in The Irishman highlights how violent this change of business was, by showing how all the old-fashioned Italian mobsters were killed in around the time drugs were introduced.
@@Trx-ep7rg And yes, as you mentioned, there was a crackdown from the police around that time. Mainly because of the drugs, that forced many to flip and bring down entire organisations to avoid jail time.
I think The Irishman is like Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, it tells you the story of the character who is usually depicted in his prime but set when he was older and well past his prime. I don't think Scorsese removed the glamour so much as there is no glamour when you're still doing the same crimes in your 50s and 60s as you did when you were younger. In Goodfellas, Henry is married and has a girlfriend, which is played like he's having a good time in life. In The Irishman, Frank straight up leaves his family, not much glamour in that. Oh, and at the end Frank can't find redemption because he's a psycho and has no clue at the wrong he has done. This is why he has no regrets to express. He asks his daughter if there's anything he can do or say to fix things, lol, decades after it matters.
@pyropulse I'm sure I remember a scene in there where his voiceover says something like "There's never a good time to leave your wife..." and that's when he left.
flibber123 He just divorced that wife. He then remarried and stayed a family man, his second wife later died of natural causes a little after he got out of prison.
I had to watch The Irishman twice to really get it. The first time I was distracted by the CGI that ended up being what everyone talked about afterwards. I took a day and went back in and that's when I got it. I saw how it was Marty's farewell to the genre. A genre he both helped create and perfect and now that he's towards the end of his journey he put a lot of that on the screen, as to say "If you mistook my previous work (Goodfellas) for glamour and excitement, take a look at the best case scenario to how the life ends up."
The violent scene are so different they are realistic and raw in the irishman like they did not really want to film them, but they needed to do it, but maybe it's just me
The Trip Trap I think the reason they portrayed the killing scenes in that way is that since they’re told from Frank Sheeran’s memory like the rest of the movie, his older self probably felt uncomfortable remembering the violence in his career and tried to downplay it even though we can clear see it for what it is.
@@ibnmianal-buna3176 Na. It's actually that violence isn't how you see in movies. People don't gasp on the ground for their last breath. All it takes is a second to end a life and it's done. That was the point of those scenes.
I was talking about difference from other Scorsese film, like Casinò, the violente scene of Pesci are more, pass this word, glorified they are exciting and I felt them (violent scene) differently in this film, I was not interested in a real life comparison but in this sense they were more realistic for sure
I said the same. That scene in The Irishman at the Clam House was insane!! Even right before when Dinero explained the importance of choosing the right weapon was gold. People don’t even realize just how realistic it was
When it came out, I thought "Wolf of Wall Street" was the spiritual successor to Goodfellas/Casino. The same type of film with Wall Street replacing the mafia. The Irishman has very little in common with Wolf of Wall Street except its director and length, but you can trace them both back to the same parents, and the contrasts are very interesting.
When you put the two clips together of Henry going on that cocaine fueled errand with the scene where Rus and Frank are just driving over to the airport, it's jarring and kind of funny.
When The Wolf of Wall Street came out, people were talking about it being the 'final chapter' to Goodfellas-Casino story, and I hated that this could never be a trilogy. What a GIFT it is to receive the appropriate final chapter to Scorsese's epic gangster story
To me, it's more of a quadrilogy with Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino, and The Irishman. Goes from the young pawns in Mean Streets to the Middle Men in Goodfellas to the Top Guys in Casino to the guys that made it all the way to old age. In a way, it's one long linear thematic story threaded through these 4 movies.
@@jameschristenbury2625 What is it a tetralogy with those 4 films? The Departed? The Departed fits with the theme of all of those movies: Crime not only doesn't pay, it hurts. It hurts everything. It hurts society, it hurts its victims, it hurts the criminals themselves. Even if they don't die, they end up like Frank in The Irishman. Pathetic and haunted.
The way this film dealt with regret, the things we miss out on in life when we're too involved with something else and the inevitable end of our lives really says something about where Scorsese's head is at right now. At some point we will all be at the end of our lives, sitting in a room alone with nothing to do but reflect on the choices we've made. Thank you Marty
Francel 01 Well, that allegedly how they died in real life. Scorcese has pointed out that mob life seems glamorous, but never ends well. You end up either brutally murdered or in jail...or both
Incredible video. Excellent analysis, editing, and narration. I used to love Tony Zhou's videos over at Every Frame a Painting, and your videos are at the same level of craft and insight. Well done.
I've figured that the opening shot in "The Irishman" doesn't focus on anyone other than Frank because they are all "nobodies". Which is mentioned in Goodfella's.
the irishman feels like the final part of Scrosese's unofficial Deniro/Pesci italian mob trilogy that included goodfellas, and Casino. (Raging Bull doesn't count in my opinion because although it did have some mob elements it was for the most part a boxing movie)
Stealthy99 I always saw The Departed as more of a cop film featuring the Irish Mob, rather than a mob film itself, especially when you discover that Frank Costello is an FBI informant, the story all ties back into the world of law enforcement rather than the mob’s world.
Charlie To0 Human Yeah I can’t disagree with that, but to me it always felt like a Scorsese “gangster movie”. In my mind I’d always compare it to the likes of Goodfellas or Casino, even though it undoubtedly depicts mob life in a completely different way.
Scorsese's Goodfellas is much like Kurosawa's Seven Samurais (A thrill ride but violent) Scorsese's The Irishmen = Kurosawa's Ran, I.E more reflective/meditative etc That's the way I see it
Absolutely incredible review, Thomas. The shakiness of the opening shot is something I noticed but never realized it’s symbolism. Love your channel, man.
Love the Irishman film about life betrayal friendship death nostalgia and regret a man looking back at his life with painn regret Wondering where it went wrong love it... U feel like U lived his life and that song brings those memories back best film feel like U lived their life
3 hours of great storytelling and I loved it. Scorsese knows how to make a great storytelling movie and we here have huge respects for him. One of the best film directors always keeps it up.
I disagree. It's a very good film, maybe even great, but not a masterpiece. Scorsese already has a few films that can be classified as masterpieces, but this isn't it. I'd say that even Silence is more deserving of the title of masterpiece, if we're looking at his recent work.
4:46 That breakfast scene in the Irishman reminded me of a couple waking up next morning after a big fight. There's so much focus on the mundane, just to avoid seeing that elephant in the room.
at the very end of the film when de Niro is sitting in his seat in the old folks home I had a flash back to a young de Niro fighting on the pool table in the bar with a pool cue in mean streets and I got teary eyed
I laughed at Joe Pesci's diagnoses of Deniro's truck trouble..."It's the timing chain", after he jiggled few spark plug wires. Next time talk to real mechanic for some ideas.
@@drbrochette9346 Of all the things to skimp out on, in a production like this, it seems like this is a good choice. But the fact remains that any homegrown/professional mechanic are gonna call bull, and all it would have taken to fix it is a call to a mechanic: "Hey I'm working on this scene where my two main characters meet for the first time, and I wanna know if a timing chain could be a thing that would work here?".
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Thematically, The Irishman does build on echoes of Goodfellas. In a literal and historic sense though, it builds on Casino. A central part of the plot of the Irishman is that it examines Hoffa’s links to the mafia because the mafia were able to obtain loans via Hoffa out of the Teamster’s pension fund as that was the only way they could access such large sums of money. The Irishman makes much of the link between the mafia and political figures like Kennedy because the Mob aspired to achieve what it wasn’t able to do in Cuba. The main theme of Casino is of course concerned with happens when wise guys get control of the casinos. The lament at the end of the film being that ‘it would be the last time guys like us ever get our hands on something like this’ after it all goes wrong. The Mob used the casinos as their money tree, “skimming money off the top”. Casino shows the fruits of what Hoffa created in the Irishman The Irishman, in this context, is the preface to Casino.
So many of my friends and colleagues hated Irishman because it was so stylistically different from GoodFellas and Casino. I had to keep telling them that that was the point. Thanks for extrapolating on that point.
The utter loneliness is what I remember about the Irishman Scorcese pounded us over the head with the loneliness, the emptiness of the end results of such a life. Sure he had the money for a beautiful casket, a stately place to rest his body after death...but the regret, the worries about his soul in the afterlife, the desire to speak to a daughter who wanted nothing to do with him I left the theater at 11:30 pm and all I could think about was loneliness Well done
I absolutely LOVED Joe Pesci's performance in this movie! It's so different from his other more intense roles we're used to seeing him in, and the thing is that he does a supremely, fantastic, job portraying a soft-spoken shot caller.
"The Irishman" is a marvelous film. There is however, a big "however", and that is, if one doesn't have a grasp of organized crime history, or Cuban/Bay of Pigs gun-running history, or Hoffa disappearance theory, then one is probably going to be a bit lost in following the movie.
I literally had no idea about who Hoffa was? Yet I believe The Irishman is masterpiece. The movie will be disliked or not very much appreciated if people go in expecting something like goodfellas, or usually people who dont really prefer slow movies.
Brilliant video! Like many of Scorsese’s films,The Irishman didn’t win the major awards but its status will just increase over time.... and one day will be appreciated as the true masterpiece it is.
If I ever become a director (highly not-likely 😉) those Scorcese-Highjack-Your-Eyes- tracking shots will be in everything I do. The camera move so naturally as if you were there VR style. Scorcese does a great job with making you feel like you there. Like in Goodfellas, during the drug and paranoia phase, didn’t you feel like you were out of breath? And when that NARC (actor Bo Dietl, recognize him from Wolf of Wall Street and The Irishman?) it was a shock and stop to the heart and Jump into the Fire playing and Jim Gordon on the drums 🤯🤯🤯🤩 🔥 🔥
PumpkinEskobarr we’re all shit nowadays. Even if we can fill our predecessors shoes, we don’t deserve to. We’re in a transition, but it’s taking too long, so we’re confused
@@maxfieldnuckels9075 I notice there is an increasing trend on those hardcore method actors when they have to play crazy-deranged characters to secure that Oscar nom, referring to the male actors. All for an award that is based on opinion an no really unit of measurement. ugh.
I think we have to pay attention to the message Scorsese wants to tell us. "You don't know hoy fast the time goes until you get here", you could be the most violent gangster, but time it's the perfect assassin and it will get you someday too. In The Irishman we see how Frank's friends die slowly one by one, and how he gets alone while aging... Time is the most ruthless killer, an no one can escape from it, you will be alone like Frank someday... And there is nothing you can even do to avoid it.
Uh huh......"similar scenes and techniques"....two guys from Philly who speak with Bronx accents, and a guy from Brazil, Indiana who speaks with a Bronx accent.
at 1:52 michael franzese, this guy is still around and talks about his days as a mobster. You should watch his interviews on youtube, he has some interesting stories to tell.
The Irishman was the first Scorsese film, that i saw. I came for a great gangster flick and left completely still, looking in the black screen. Seriously, the ending of the Irishman is hands down the best ending of a film, I've ever seen. Just the simple long static shot of old Frank completely alone, isolated with just some simple background noise, all of which cuts to black suddenly with a long pause, until we hear the beautiful 50s melancholic song In The Still Of The Night, which can be heard only in the opening shot and then right after Frank kills his friend. Just moves you, man.
Okay. I agree with a few things about the opening tracking shot. But, there are a few things you are forgetting. The opening tracking shot is set in the perspective of Charles Brandt, the person who Frank is actually speaking to. Charles Brandt wrote the book 'I heard you paint houses' on which the film is based on and the book is a word by word transcript of the Interview Brandt had with Frank.
I grew up with both my parents working in a restaurant/ owning it. I have too many fond memories and I also carry grief for a lot of bosses I met as a child. I remember running money for these guys during card games… Tony the Foot, Stevey Jewlery, Johnny The Hitman. Rest In Peace- the last of the men clinging to a dying enterprise.
I also would like to add two details presented in The Irishman that work as direct callbacks to Goodfellas. The first one being at the beginning of the film, where the house from which DeNiro and Pesci are walkin out is the same house of Lorraine Braco's character in Goodfellas. The second "easter egg" per say, is the inclusion of the Pretend You Don't See Her, a song that plays in one the most significant scenes of Goodfellas and it's brought to The Irishman as a instrumental version in the scene where (SPOILERS) DeNiro finally realises there's no way out alive for Jimmy Hoffa. A truly amazing moment!
I haven't seen the Irishmen yet. Lot of it relays on suspension of disbelief. These guys are senior citizens now and it's kind of hard to take them seriously. That's being said, Goodfellas and Martin Scorsese are my all-time favs. I regard Goodfellas as not only the best mob movie, but best movie ever. They captured lightning in a bottle. There is a real magic to Goodfellas. I've watched it hundreds of times know every frame, ever line of dialogue but it still seems magically like the first time. Everytime.
The way you ❤ Good fellas is the way I feel about that 80s movie Splash lol. But The Irishman is xtra special to me. The name of the film also reminds me of JFK and all those dynamics of power, politics, I think of Marilyn and then I remember her b&w photos meeting Queen Elizabeth II, MM and the queen of England both being born in 1926 lol anyway movies are the best thing ever imo and the arts & crafts films, so to speak, are just delicious
One of my favorite touches of the Irishman is how in the climax of the scene, he drives the same car Henry Hill does in the coke run of Goodfellas-a red Cadillac.
So great. Felt like a brilliant way for all those legend actors to get together with such an exceptional director and found a way to say Thank you and Goodbye.. I smiled and fround watching it.. World class acting and dialogue enjoying the scenes but knowing its likely the last time.. An all-time great this will be.
I also think the Irishman borrows heavily from Once Upon A Time In America- Sergio Leone's take on gangsters and how he shows them for what they are, in particular all the scenes of old Noodles feels similar to the scenes of an old Frank Sheeran. Both man are stuck in the past and are a pathetic shell of themselves and are estranged from the ones they loved and cared about.
The Irishman definitely develops a lot of thematic elements from Scorsese’s previous mobster films-Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino-but, in my viewing, the arc of The Irishman felt more akin to The Age of Innocence. In both, a man very much a product of his time and place is forced to sacrifice his most significant relationship (Countess Olenska vs. Jimmy Hoffa) to preserve larger social orders (the family and the ruling class of early New York vs. the family, the union, and la cosa nostra). After several decades, when facing the opportunity to rectify their pasts and to redeem some aspect of their former selves (through rekindling the relationship in The Age of Innocence or confessing to the FBI in The Irishman), both Archer and Frank turn away again, seemingly in deference to the past, though ultimately their inaction aids in preserving the social order(s) that condemned them in the first place. I think this is one way of interpreting what Scorsese meant when he called The Age of Innocence his most violent film.
I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.
Johnny two times
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@@harrysavvides5655 "who got that nickname because he said everything twice like....."
@Arch Stanton godfather
late to your own funeral
The Irishman feels like the epilogue to a life lived to the fullest, yet a life that ultimately feels unfulfilling. A brilliant meditation on old age, regret and betrayal. Scorsese, we bow to you.
this sounds more like u getting on your knees than bowing
I don’t bow to no living man alive. Have some goddamn self respect.
@@basitk12 what's wrong with showing respect? Get your head out of your ass.
Scorsese we stand and applaud you.
Exceptionally well said.
The Irishman compared to Goodfellas is just like Once Upon a Time in the West compared to The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. It revisits the well trodden path of an old exciting classic in a more mature and honest way.
Bryan Chu well said or well put.👍🏻
Spot on
the 1968 version? of once upon
akshay Viswambharan Only 3 times!? Ha scrub!
Well, if I could do such garbage at age 80, maan. I guess that's not what people call Alzheimer. Learn to appreciate stuff buddy, for your own sake. Wish you happy holidays
I'm a relatively young guy. But The Irishman scared the shit out of me in regards to becoming old.
Watch when ya hit 50 your gonna say where did the time go it goes quicker the older you get
it scared the shit out of me in that regard too
@@enlightenedwarrior7119 facts
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Same I’d rather die young then end up in a nursing home
This movie definitely feels like a swan song to Scorsese's previous works. It really made me rethink to all of those previous movies and somewhat even my life. It felt like I was living through with Frank Sheeran. In this case, I'd say the length really helped the movie and seeing it all in one sitting is definitely the best way to experience it. I want so much to make a video on this movie myself too. BTW watching Goodfellas after The Irishman added a whole new meaning to it for sure.
@pyropulse LOL go easy on me man. What part of "somewhat even" was I not clear about. I do try to relate the messages movies like this give with my life. Who said only Aristotle is capable of that?
r/iamverysmart smh
@pyropulse Chill out bro. haha
pyropulse you weird bro relax lmao. You know what people have serious inferior complexity issue? People like you who take there time out they day to say some weird shit and come at somebody else when they did nothing to you. You’re not intellectual at all. You’re ignorant.
What I couldn’t believe was that The Irishman was the first feature-length DeNiro/Scorsese collaboration since 95’s Casino.
Marty took a real shine to Leo, starting with Gangs of New York
mcv86 Yeah. Leo was definitely a significant fork in the road he probably wasn’t expecting. Can’t saw I ain’t satisfied with the result of it though.
It's also the first Scorcesse/Pacino collaboration ever
What about “The Family”?
@@gabrielzamarron that wasn’t Scorsese
Goodfellas is like a speeding corvette. Beautiful car recklessly driving its way into a crash and subsequent demise.
The Irishman is like a Cadillac slowly depreciating and breaking down as time goes on. What was once a beautiful car now worthless after all the years and effort you’ve spent keeping it going..
Irishman is more like a rusty boring almost dead bmx bike. Compared to goodfellas which is a new Lamborghini lol.
Colin Sushiboy only because this generation doesn’t appreciate art. I myself am a deep thinker and The Irishman put me in a mood for like 24 hours. Emotionally speaking, Goodfellas just wasn’t deep like it’s counterpart.
You guys simply don’t appreciate art.
@@jarredoliveira3766 You had to ruin an okay analogy with some 'this generation' tirade.
Art has existed since almost the dawn of man. We have art dating back thousands of years that still exists to this day. And you think this generation - the generation with the best access to knowledge, information and communication - somehow collectively lacks the ability to appreciate art in ways that all previous generations didn't lack this ability? Give me a break lol.
I'm part of this generation and I loved the Irishman too. I won't self-anoint myself as a deep thinker or brag about some emotional 24 hours in a state sort of thing, but I enjoyed myself seeing it as part of London film festival, having my first legally obtained drink in one hand & free popcorn in the other.
If there is any generational disconnect though it would likely be due to the mature retrospective take on the gangster life that the movie offers, *not* because of a generation failing to appreciate art. I mean the video essay itself is a success of the TH-cam gen, and Scorsese is mainstream hardly arthouse or anything only cinephiles can appreciate
Kaizer.Beatz you didn’t have to go that deep, i’m a millennial and I agree with him
I saw someone else point this out before, but scorceses work seems to show ever higher echelons of mob life.
Mean streets -> Low level street hoods trying to get noticed.
Goodfellas -> 'working class' mobsters
Casino -> 'Upper Class' mobsters
And the Irishman shows the dudes at the very top.
The Irishman also shows the end. The mob lost power and the then all powerful bosses and hitmen end up rotting in prison or asylums, old and alone.
Probably read my comment somewhere lol
Yes, a huge takeaway I got from this was no matter how powerful any of these bosses were, ultimately leading this life leads you to one of two things: getting whacked or rotting in jail.
Even Al Pacino's character admits they're not the very top
Wolf of Wall Street - the system behind it all
I saw "The Irishman" for the sixth time, today. I've seen "GoodFellas" many dozens of times. Both are masterpieces.
It's Scorsese. Can't go wrong.
dkelly26666 damn have you been watching for 24 hours
@@wyattnyfeler7270 No, I saw "GoodFellas" when it was brand new, and have had 30 years to see it many times.
Goodfellas:
"What do you do?"
"What?"
"What do you do?"
"I'm in construction"
"I don't feel like you're in construction"
"Well, I'm a union delegate"
The Irishman:
"I heard you paint houses"
"I do my own carpentry work too"
Two great films. Well done Scorsese (and everyone else who helped)
A shame Ray Liotta wasn't in The Irishman
they didn't want to add spaghetti with Marinara sauce in the contract so he refused
I think it was for the best that he wasn't involved. Allowed the Irishman to stand on its own feet rather than being an attempt to recapture what made Goodfellas good or to profit off of that film's rep. Also allowed people like Stephen Graham to take the spotlight for his largest career role.
Like The Irishman is a retrospective of the gangster genre & the careers of all involved, but it's *not* Goodfellas Pt 2, you know?
Ray Liotta could have been better because he is 10 years younger than De Niro, it would have elp in some of the scenes he was younger.
but Ray Liotta had plastic surgery a few years ago and his face looks all fucked now.
@@happyplaceforever101 De Niro is leagues better of an actor than Ray.
Coulda played a driver or something
It feels like the conclusion to a trilogy, starting with Goodfellas, introducing these themes and ideas about violence and excess with a fresh young perspective. To be continued with casino, which expands the same themes much like a sequel would do, introducing hints of doubt that it may not be worth it all, showing a slightly more matured take. The Irishman feels like a conclusion, continuing with the same themes and drawing lots of visual parallels to both, this time from the perspective of an older man. It feels like a natural and perfect trilogy.
trilogy ? what about mean streets damnt it !
@@tareklegrand7747 Mean streets wasnt really a gangster movie. It was about small time street conmen.
@@dawsondjodvorj2408 should add the departed though
The wolf of wall street is also extremely reminiscent of goodfellas, especially where the fbi storm the offices while Leo tells story over footage
Totally agree, partially why I love WOW so much. Its like the Wall street version of Goodfellas. Less murder, more drugs. Still shot/presented in his fast-paced, quickcut style that drew to him in the first place. Irishman was good but to me, missing the fast cuts, zoom-ins, etc. The look wasn't exactly what I was hoping for but still good.I say, if you want a Scorsese movie with Irish in the mob, watch The Departed. Amazing film.
@@b.a.p.2731 The Departed is good, but i'd say The Irishman is much better.
The sadest relization in this movie is we had the feeling of this is Scorsese's retirement film
Except it isn’t. He’s already filming a new movie with Leonardo DiCaprio.
Nah, it won't be. Scorsese has still got all the brilliance and craft in him that he had decades ago, and never seems to be short of projects he wants to work on. Sidney Lumet, another great filmmaker that was in some ways the precursor of Scorsese, kept making films into his mid-80s.
@@mitchm0 The movie hes doing with DiCaprio is his last one right?
It certainly won’t be his last but it certainly felt a hell of a lot like it. The Irishman has a final sort of feeling, that’s probably way it sort of feels like his last. The only person in this film who I think that we won’t see anymore after this film is Joe Pesci, The Irishman will definitely be Pesci’s final film. But, in my eyes, it’s the absolute best way to go out, his performance is just magnificent!
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This is an absolutely wonderful video. Another link I found between Goodfellas and The Irishman is in the death dates; only a few characters die later than 1978-1980, showcasing how severe the generational shift in the mob was. Almost everybody from Frank's generation were killed to make space for the newcomers (Henry's generation) who focused moreso on selling drugs. This leads really well into the themes of both Goodfellas and The Irishman - Goodfellas is about that generational shift, and The Irishman is about the general shift of time, and the grim deaths of many gangsters.
Actually Goodfellas was in Frank's generation of mobsters. Remember Henry Hill was caught around 1980 (plane chasing Henry's car scene). Frank was also imprisoned in 1980 after Hoffa's death. Everyone in Casino also got caught in the late 70s. And all those other mobsters also got killed/imprisoned in 1978-80 (in the Irishman). So I guess there was a law crackdown on the Mob around that time.
Trx 1136 wasn’t it different in Florida though where the drug scheme took off in the 80s there or is that just the media?
@@COOLMCDEN Yeah the 80's was full of cocaine (like Scarface) but that wasn't the Italian Mafia, it was just drug dealers
@@Trx-ep7rg I think I misspoke in my eager to share the detail - I didn't necessarily mean "generation" as in a generation of age, but rather a generation of thought. Goodfellas focuses on this change in thought, from the old-timers like Paulie, making their businesses off protection money, to the newcomers selling drugs, like Henry. The death dates in The Irishman highlights how violent this change of business was, by showing how all the old-fashioned Italian mobsters were killed in around the time drugs were introduced.
@@Trx-ep7rg And yes, as you mentioned, there was a crackdown from the police around that time. Mainly because of the drugs, that forced many to flip and bring down entire organisations to avoid jail time.
I think The Irishman is like Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven, it tells you the story of the character who is usually depicted in his prime but set when he was older and well past his prime. I don't think Scorsese removed the glamour so much as there is no glamour when you're still doing the same crimes in your 50s and 60s as you did when you were younger. In Goodfellas, Henry is married and has a girlfriend, which is played like he's having a good time in life. In The Irishman, Frank straight up leaves his family, not much glamour in that. Oh, and at the end Frank can't find redemption because he's a psycho and has no clue at the wrong he has done. This is why he has no regrets to express. He asks his daughter if there's anything he can do or say to fix things, lol, decades after it matters.
@pyropulse I'm sure I remember a scene in there where his voiceover says something like "There's never a good time to leave your wife..." and that's when he left.
flibber123 He just divorced that wife. He then remarried and stayed a family man, his second wife later died of natural causes a little after he got out of prison.
I had to watch The Irishman twice to really get it. The first time I was distracted by the CGI that ended up being what everyone talked about afterwards. I took a day and went back in and that's when I got it. I saw how it was Marty's farewell to the genre. A genre he both helped create and perfect and now that he's towards the end of his journey he put a lot of that on the screen, as to say "If you mistook my previous work (Goodfellas) for glamour and excitement, take a look at the best case scenario to how the life ends up."
What CGI lol
Kakugen Do you live in a cave? The cgi to make Deneiro and company look younger.
Kakugen bro you’re dumb
2:45 'I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers'
The violent scene are so different they are realistic and raw in the irishman like they did not really want to film them, but they needed to do it, but maybe it's just me
The Trip Trap I think the reason they portrayed the killing scenes in that way is that since they’re told from Frank Sheeran’s memory like the rest of the movie, his older self probably felt uncomfortable remembering the violence in his career and tried to downplay it even though we can clear see it for what it is.
@@ibnmianal-buna3176 Na. It's actually that violence isn't how you see in movies. People don't gasp on the ground for their last breath. All it takes is a second to end a life and it's done. That was the point of those scenes.
It was so matter of fact becuase that's just how the mob deals with it
I was talking about difference from other Scorsese film, like Casinò, the violente scene of Pesci are more, pass this word, glorified they are exciting and I felt them (violent scene) differently in this film, I was not interested in a real life comparison but in this sense they were more realistic for sure
I said the same. That scene in The Irishman at the Clam House was insane!! Even right before when Dinero explained the importance of choosing the right weapon was gold. People don’t even realize just how realistic it was
When it came out, I thought "Wolf of Wall Street" was the spiritual successor to Goodfellas/Casino. The same type of film with Wall Street replacing the mafia.
The Irishman has very little in common with Wolf of Wall Street except its director and length, but you can trace them both back to the same parents, and the contrasts are very interesting.
The irishman is an hommage from Martin Scorsese to all his own movies and actors and their lifes.
Ciao from France
Your country is destroyed from immigration.
Slán from Ireland.
@@Syndixal And ours was destroyed from emigration.
@@Earhairy emigration and soon will immigration, lol
When you put the two clips together of Henry going on that cocaine fueled errand with the scene where Rus and Frank are just driving over to the airport, it's jarring and kind of funny.
When The Wolf of Wall Street came out, people were talking about it being the 'final chapter' to Goodfellas-Casino story, and I hated that this could never be a trilogy.
What a GIFT it is to receive the appropriate final chapter to Scorsese's epic gangster story
When did anyone say TWOWS was the final chapter to the Goodfellas-Casino story? They're not even thematically similar.
The trilogy is definitely Goodfellas, Casino and The Irishman great trilogy
To me, it's more of a quadrilogy with Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino, and The Irishman. Goes from the young pawns in Mean Streets to the Middle Men in Goodfellas to the Top Guys in Casino to the guys that made it all the way to old age. In a way, it's one long linear thematic story threaded through these 4 movies.
@@TheGeorgeD13 I'm so glad you mentioned Mean Streets as I was about to write that this story is a tetralogy.
@@jameschristenbury2625 What is it a tetralogy with those 4 films? The Departed?
The Departed fits with the theme of all of those movies: Crime not only doesn't pay, it hurts. It hurts everything. It hurts society, it hurts its victims, it hurts the criminals themselves. Even if they don't die, they end up like Frank in The Irishman. Pathetic and haunted.
The way this film dealt with regret, the things we miss out on in life when we're too involved with something else and the inevitable end of our lives really says something about where Scorsese's head is at right now. At some point we will all be at the end of our lives, sitting in a room alone with nothing to do but reflect on the choices we've made.
Thank you Marty
Apparently almost every character in The irishman die by multiple shot in the face in a parking lot in 1980
Francel 01 Well, that allegedly how they died in real life. Scorcese has pointed out that mob life seems glamorous, but never ends well. You end up either brutally murdered or in jail...or both
People always say the 80s was a wild year
Incredible video. Excellent analysis, editing, and narration. I used to love Tony Zhou's videos over at Every Frame a Painting, and your videos are at the same level of craft and insight. Well done.
I've figured that the opening shot in "The Irishman" doesn't focus on anyone other than Frank because they are all "nobodies". Which is mentioned in Goodfella's.
Man, even in the beginning of Goodfellas, Henry alludes to Crazy Joe. And in the Irishman, you see what happened.
Great movie.
the irishman feels like the final part of Scrosese's unofficial Deniro/Pesci italian mob trilogy that included goodfellas, and Casino. (Raging Bull doesn't count in my opinion because although it did have some mob elements it was for the most part a boxing movie)
Mean streets had mob elements?
What about The Departed?
Stealthy99 I always saw The Departed as more of a cop film featuring the Irish Mob, rather than a mob film itself, especially when you discover that Frank Costello is an FBI informant, the story all ties back into the world of law enforcement rather than the mob’s world.
Charlie To0 Human Yeah I can’t disagree with that, but to me it always felt like a Scorsese “gangster movie”. In my mind I’d always compare it to the likes of Goodfellas or Casino, even though it undoubtedly depicts mob life in a completely different way.
Once Upon A Time In America and A Bronx Tale both Robert De Niro and Joe Pesci are in the gangster movies.
Scorsese's Goodfellas is much like Kurosawa's Seven Samurais (A thrill ride but violent)
Scorsese's The Irishmen = Kurosawa's Ran, I.E more reflective/meditative etc
That's the way I see it
A very thoughtful insight. Thank you.
That is what I had said in my review on Letterboxd.
Man I really want to watch Kurosawa's cinema, but dont really understand how to begin.
Any suggestions?
Absolutely incredible review, Thomas. The shakiness of the opening shot is something I noticed but never realized it’s symbolism. Love your channel, man.
Love the Irishman film about life betrayal friendship death nostalgia and regret a man looking back at his life with painn regret Wondering where it went wrong love it... U feel like U lived his life and that song brings those memories back best film feel like U lived their life
3 hours of great storytelling and I loved it. Scorsese knows how to make a great storytelling movie and we here have huge respects for him. One of the best film directors always keeps it up.
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In the still of the niiiight
I immediately noticed how similar Hoffa and Tommy’s “disappearances” were
The Irishman is a modern masterpiece
I have spoken.
Sharanyo Paul it’s not
@@abuferasabdullah It is
Abu Feras Abdullah it definitely is.
I disagree. It's a very good film, maybe even great, but not a masterpiece. Scorsese already has a few films that can be classified as masterpieces, but this isn't it. I'd say that even Silence is more deserving of the title of masterpiece, if we're looking at his recent work.
4:46 That breakfast scene in the Irishman reminded me of a couple waking up next morning after a big fight. There's so much focus on the mundane, just to avoid seeing that elephant in the room.
at the very end of the film when de Niro is sitting in his seat in the old folks home I had a flash back to a young de Niro fighting on the pool table in the bar with a pool cue in mean streets and I got teary eyed
I laughed at Joe Pesci's diagnoses of Deniro's truck trouble..."It's the timing chain", after he jiggled few spark plug wires. Next time talk to real mechanic for some ideas.
It’s a detail tho, not really important
@@drbrochette9346 But it's part of the big picture
BengalinTiikeri But it’s nothing, won’t ruin a movie of make it less good. Not important.
@@drbrochette9346 Of all the things to skimp out on, in a production like this, it seems like this is a good choice. But the fact remains that any homegrown/professional mechanic are gonna call bull, and all it would have taken to fix it is a call to a mechanic: "Hey I'm working on this scene where my two main characters meet for the first time, and I wanna know if a timing chain could be a thing that would work here?".
@@drbrochette9346 Indefensible...
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Thematically, The Irishman does build on echoes of Goodfellas. In a literal and historic sense though, it builds on Casino. A central part of the plot of the Irishman is that it examines Hoffa’s links to the mafia because the mafia were able to obtain loans via Hoffa out of the Teamster’s pension fund as that was the only way they could access such large sums of money. The Irishman makes much of the link between the mafia and political figures like Kennedy because the Mob aspired to achieve what it wasn’t able to do in Cuba.
The main theme of Casino is of course concerned with happens when wise guys get control of the casinos. The lament at the end of the film being that ‘it would be the last time guys like us ever get our hands on something like this’ after it all goes wrong. The Mob used the casinos as their money tree, “skimming money off the top”. Casino shows the fruits of what Hoffa created in the Irishman
The Irishman, in this context, is the preface to Casino.
So many of my friends and colleagues hated Irishman because it was so stylistically different from GoodFellas and Casino. I had to keep telling them that that was the point. Thanks for extrapolating on that point.
This was personally my favorite film for Marty
The utter loneliness is what I remember about the Irishman
Scorcese pounded us over the head with the loneliness, the emptiness of the end results of such a life. Sure he had the money for a beautiful casket, a stately place to rest his body after death...but the regret, the worries about his soul in the afterlife, the desire to speak to a daughter who wanted nothing to do with him
I left the theater at 11:30 pm and all I could think about was loneliness
Well done
I absolutely LOVED Joe Pesci's performance in this movie!
It's so different from his other more intense roles we're used to seeing him in, and the thing is that he does a supremely, fantastic, job portraying a soft-spoken shot caller.
Love a new Thomas Flight vid.
Make a video about how Martin Scorsese's films deal with Catholic themes.
"The Irishman" is a marvelous film. There is however, a big "however", and that is, if one doesn't have a grasp of organized crime history, or Cuban/Bay of Pigs gun-running history, or Hoffa disappearance theory, then one is probably going to be a bit lost in following the movie.
Sure, but I think the movie does a pretty good job at informing the viewer about what exactly is going on.
This movie isnt for everyone
@@CharlieTooHuman I would disagree. For example, the pin on Bufalino's coat is alluded to w/o elaboration.
I had no idea about who Hoffa is, myself being from Eastern Europe, and it was alright. The film does explain what it has to
I literally had no idea about who Hoffa was? Yet I believe The Irishman is masterpiece.
The movie will be disliked or not very much appreciated if people go in expecting something like goodfellas, or usually people who dont really prefer slow movies.
Probably my top film of 2019 🤔 Parasite was another fav of mine.
Joker was the best of 2019.
Decepticon Leader I disagree with you, but I respect your opinion
Not only. Scorsese in this film remember Mean Streets, trough the music's choises, and with symbolic and contradictory element of the curch.
Brilliant video!
Like many of Scorsese’s films,The Irishman didn’t win the major awards but its status will just increase over time....
and one day will be appreciated as the true masterpiece it is.
Loved your Wire videos. Super excited to see this video in my feed. Excellent as always
If I ever become a director (highly not-likely 😉) those Scorcese-Highjack-Your-Eyes- tracking shots will be in everything I do.
The camera move so naturally as if you were there VR style.
Scorcese does a great job with making you feel like you there.
Like in Goodfellas, during the drug and paranoia phase, didn’t you feel like you were out of breath? And when that NARC (actor Bo Dietl, recognize him from Wolf of Wall Street and The Irishman?) it was a shock and stop to the heart and Jump into the Fire playing and Jim Gordon on the drums 🤯🤯🤯🤩 🔥 🔥
Too bad there aren’t any decent actors anymore to portray your story
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what you mean?
PumpkinEskobarr we’re all shit nowadays. Even if we can fill our predecessors shoes, we don’t deserve to. We’re in a transition, but it’s taking too long, so we’re confused
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I notice there is an increasing trend on those hardcore method actors when they have to play crazy-deranged characters to secure that Oscar nom, referring to the male actors. All for an award that is based on opinion an no really unit of measurement. ugh.
I think we have to pay attention to the message Scorsese wants to tell us. "You don't know hoy fast the time goes until you get here", you could be the most violent gangster, but time it's the perfect assassin and it will get you someday too. In The Irishman we see how Frank's friends die slowly one by one, and how he gets alone while aging... Time is the most ruthless killer, an no one can escape from it, you will be alone like Frank someday... And there is nothing you can even do to avoid it.
Uh huh......"similar scenes and techniques"....two guys from Philly who speak with Bronx accents, and a guy from Brazil, Indiana who speaks with a Bronx accent.
Amen. That bothered me. Hoffa had an upper Midwest accent similar to Chicago
at 1:52 michael franzese, this guy is still around and talks about his days as a mobster. You should watch his interviews on youtube, he has some interesting stories to tell.
That’s not him, he’s an actor.
@@josecarranza7555 the actor is playing him tho
@@Syndixal That’s what I said.
@@josecarranza7555 no
@@Syndixal I did
It's a great film! Scorsese always nails it with the music!
2:45 "im gonna go get the papers, get the papers"
The Irishman was the first Scorsese film, that i saw. I came for a great gangster flick and left completely still, looking in the black screen.
Seriously, the ending of the Irishman is hands down the best ending of a film, I've ever seen. Just the simple long static shot of old Frank completely alone, isolated with just some simple background noise, all of which cuts to black suddenly with a long pause, until we hear the beautiful 50s melancholic song In The Still Of The Night, which can be heard only in the opening shot and then right after Frank kills his friend. Just moves you, man.
Trust me. Goodfellas and The Irishman have some hugely similar scenes. Specially that meat truck, that phone booth and various other things.
Don’t forget the obvious link between the two films when Jimmy says to Batts, “There’s only one Irishman here.”
I’m gonna go get the papers, get the papers
Okay. I agree with a few things about the opening tracking shot. But, there are a few things you are forgetting. The opening tracking shot is set in the perspective of Charles Brandt, the person who Frank is actually speaking to. Charles Brandt wrote the book 'I heard you paint houses' on which the film is based on and the book is a word by word transcript of the Interview Brandt had with Frank.
Love The Shootist on the marquee, Don Seigel's 1976 revisionist John Wayne movie w Lauren Bacall. Awesome.
The Irishman is a spiritual sequel to goodfellas
Come on the opening scene itself basically spells out its a nod to Goodfellas .
I grew up with both my parents working in a restaurant/ owning it. I have too many fond memories and I also carry grief for a lot of bosses I met as a child. I remember running money for these guys during card games… Tony the Foot, Stevey Jewlery, Johnny The Hitman. Rest In Peace- the last of the men clinging to a dying enterprise.
thats the best opener for the movie and every goodfellas video
This just makes goodfellas even better, if that’s possible, goodfellas is like an old friend that makes you laugh cry and never want in your life
Many shots in Goodfellas harken back to Mean Streets.
Nice analysis. It’s really more his signature than a sequel I think.
'It's what it is'
The camera work is similar because this is Scorcese's style. If you watch his filmography you'll see this in a lot of his movies.
Leni Riefenstahl came up with the trekking shot from the 1935 great film triumph of the will
I also would like to add two details presented in The Irishman that work as direct callbacks to Goodfellas. The first one being at the beginning of the film, where the house from which DeNiro and Pesci are walkin out is the same house of Lorraine Braco's character in Goodfellas. The second "easter egg" per say, is the inclusion of the Pretend You Don't See Her, a song that plays in one the most significant scenes of Goodfellas and it's brought to The Irishman as a instrumental version in the scene where (SPOILERS) DeNiro finally realises there's no way out alive for Jimmy Hoffa. A truly amazing moment!
fantastic analysis!
Great Observation. Thank You!
Yup I’m subscribing, love your content
Your videos are so good, keep it up
in love with your observations here
I haven't seen the Irishmen yet. Lot of it relays on suspension of disbelief. These guys are senior citizens now and it's kind of hard to take them seriously.
That's being said, Goodfellas and Martin Scorsese are my all-time favs.
I regard Goodfellas as not only the best mob movie,
but best movie ever.
They captured lightning in a bottle. There is a real magic to Goodfellas.
I've watched it hundreds of times know every frame, ever line of dialogue but it still seems magically like the first time. Everytime.
The way you ❤ Good fellas is the way I feel about that 80s movie Splash lol. But The Irishman is xtra special to me. The name of the film also reminds me of JFK and all those dynamics of power, politics, I think of Marilyn and then I remember her b&w photos meeting Queen Elizabeth II, MM and the queen of England both being born in 1926 lol anyway movies are the best thing ever imo and the arts & crafts films, so to speak, are just delicious
One of my favorite touches of the Irishman is how in the climax of the scene, he drives the same car Henry Hill does in the coke run of Goodfellas-a red Cadillac.
Great video!
Sorry, this isn't related to the video, but I love that you used the theme from the Third Man at the end!
Marty: If Bob was 30 years younger, I would have him snorting coke, driving around like nuts and chased by the helicopter too.
almost like they had the same director
My grandpa was in goodfellas. He played as sonny
Anyone been able to point out that the plane in the Irishman has some sick Garmin GTN 750 Touchscreens?
Great video brotha
To be honest both of the movies are good
So great.
Felt like a brilliant way for all those legend actors to get together with such an exceptional director and found a way to say Thank you and Goodbye..
I smiled and fround watching it.. World class acting and dialogue enjoying the scenes but knowing its likely the last time.. An all-time great this will be.
maybe its the last time but these films will last forever for those of us who love them
A masterful piece of work..both movies. I chose us .....he certainly did...
I got Jacky Brown vibes as well with both of these movies
Irishman follows similar to that of Goodfellows like this video is explaining but remember the Once upon a time in America.
00:03:53 I thought the title cards showed the passing of characters, as well as suggesting the passing of the Italian mob movie genre.
I also think the Irishman borrows heavily from Once Upon A Time In America- Sergio Leone's take on gangsters and how he shows them for what they are, in particular all the scenes of old Noodles feels similar to the scenes of an old Frank Sheeran. Both man are stuck in the past and are a pathetic shell of themselves and are estranged from the ones they loved and cared about.
Oh and pesci is a funny guy in both
The Irishman definitely develops a lot of thematic elements from Scorsese’s previous mobster films-Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino-but, in my viewing, the arc of The Irishman felt more akin to The Age of Innocence. In both, a man very much a product of his time and place is forced to sacrifice his most significant relationship (Countess Olenska vs. Jimmy Hoffa) to preserve larger social orders (the family and the ruling class of early New York vs. the family, the union, and la cosa nostra). After several decades, when facing the opportunity to rectify their pasts and to redeem some aspect of their former selves (through rekindling the relationship in The Age of Innocence or confessing to the FBI in The Irishman), both Archer and Frank turn away again, seemingly in deference to the past, though ultimately their inaction aids in preserving the social order(s) that condemned them in the first place. I think this is one way of interpreting what Scorsese meant when he called The Age of Innocence his most violent film.
I've not seen The Age of Innocence. I'm gonna see it now after your comment
Goodfellas was a perfect movie so anything the proceeds it has a very fuckin tough job
How did you pull video for the Irishman from Netflix?