8S is the way to go. She's hauling ass Big B. I got the same set up. Just finishing up some home projects and I'm going to start running the boats everyday. Love your content get me motivated
Hey Big. B, great vid , loved the 6S 8S comparison. 8S obviously can and will give you a PB under ideal conditions, as long as one doesn’t get carried away. You “warned “ all of us in the risk factors involved with 8S. Am sure you will have your rudder repaired “ironclad”. Thanks for giving us the heads up.
Goes to show water is not to be messed with 😮 I once tried to salto from a pool's spring board and landed back 1st in the water... 1st and last time I tried a salto.
What a beast now . Can't what to see you put a good stinger adjustable drive on it. This boat now will do 80mph all day long great upgrade this 8s system. Buddy
Can’t wait to see where the ironclad journey takes this 👍 I will be along for the ride 🫡. Thanks for all your hard work 🙏 definitely appreciated BG4L 🤙
I wasn't expecting the Temps to be cooler but it makes sense 🤔 I worked my ass off last year to get 67 on 6s. Just to hit 72 in a matter of minutes with an un-tuned boat. Love it
I still have the stock esc in my v2 for 2 summers. I ran this prop for a long time and then gave it to my dad to use. I have a x645 on it now and no power cuts even after bashing. However my battery discharge is not as good as these SMC's. I have one of these on the shelf waiting to go in it. I realize now the CNHL 6500 6s pack i have is 90c rated not the 150c rated like i thought. Warmest water temps we get are lower 80s
I'd keep it stock unless you like ordering parts and looking for large(r) spaces to use your RC. Looking at RC videos I've concluded that 60mph/100kmh is the max for both boats and cars while still keeping it max fun. Anything faster sounds and obviously looks great but it creates issues with space and bigger crashes. The videos are awesome to watch though.
I have two Sonicwakes, for tinkering. #1 Had the rudder pull, burnt, and sunk. She’s cleaned, patched, and in dry dock waiting on new guts. Xlx2 and tp 4060-1950kv was intended for 6s 🤞 might have to go 8balls 😅
8s pushes it straight out of the hole fair play. 6s is to tame for such a big boat cavitating on take off. You have definitely found the performance the boat should have for bashing hard. Loving that setup Big B, gutted that rudder tore out and ruined the show, Ironclad that and she’s an Animal for sure 😍👍
Always amazed at how well you get a V hull to perform, I find them a complete pain in the butt to set up. Also nice to see the temps a little cooler which is a surprise as normally upping the volts draws more current, which increases the Watts/ heat but I think it could be increased water flow due to the higher speed.
Shit fire! You can either thru drill the rudder holes with a nut or oversized the screw w/o nuts. I like running mine with no backer nut or washer so the rudder will pull out and not damage the hull
@@IRONCLADRC yeah buddy, that’s what I was seriously just contemplating while looking at my hull! Put alittle. Silicone on m4 screws that are alittle longer with no nuts 🥜.
Rc Roland, I have the sonic wake v1, I ran it with two 120c 11.4 v batteries 3s each. And it burned 🔥 my 120A esc do you think the voltage was too high for it, since it only have a single cooling intake water 💧 cooling,
I'll be swapping in a Hydra and 4070-V1 into mine this weekend. I've got a 4519 and a 4814 to try out... I have a feeling I'm going to have a tough time keeping it on the water 😆
So hopefully when I can get the gadgets to measure all that then I ll let u know just figured if it works as well as it does for me I think your viewers would be thank full 😊
Just need some Spektrum 100C packs. Then you can get all your temps, rpm, speed, Amps and battery voltage.. All the stuff that makes tue smart technology so sweet! I know. spektrum packs aint really optimum. But it is nice once it's all set up on the rugged/5c.. And we need another bash session! I think the zelos is good to go, again..
The only thing I'm worried about with this particular setup is the motor, 1900kv that's awful high kv in a heavy boat. The temperatures were cool, so I'm gonna send it.. BG4L
By increasing the voltage the set up 'uses' the voltage more than the amps resulting in lower temps. Less current draw means less internal resistance. Upping to 160A / 8S gains lesser temps as well.
Only thing I'm worried about is the motor getting to hot, 1900kv that's kinda high for 8s in this heavy boat, especially with heavier batteries. Oh well, we'll see. I'm just gonna send it. BG4L
Similar Sonicwake setup 160a firma, leopard 4074-1750kv, running only 6s ,occasional power cut, and one motor wire melts solder every time, almost regardless of prop. Was trying to remedy, with cap pack, before going 8balls, to avoid bigger mess, screw it, going 8 and hope the hardware hangs on. Gracias 🙏
Utah. To get me couple 4s packs,both my sonicwake v2 and my impulse 32 are 8s capable only ran them on 6s interested to see what they run on 4s and do 6 then 8 . Im kinda like you though and try to jeep my bateries in pairs and the good ones cost well you know, 8s soon peace
Cool running, especially on 8S...but, I'm thinking, the motor isn't the only thing not designed to handle 8S. Me thinks, the hull, itself, isn't "8S capable"...lol 🤙🏼 But, I still enjoyed watch. Call it "another non-human audition for Cirque du Soleil".
45 Years of rc boating has resulted in the optimum combo. - rigger no doubt fasted ever designed hull easiest to scratch build and repair - twin set up stupid high speed (outward ! running props ) no prop walk, so no rudder tweeking to run straight totally symetrical lay out less proned to power cut off longer run times lower temp readings smaller rudder needed - splash cooling plain, smooth rudder so no eratic spin offs less water resistance no clogged water lines double up with y splitters, see IRONCLAD RC vids Still I like to run a deep vee, cat and three point (semi) scale hydro. Cause they're all BOATS. That's why.
Stupid question, When you are talking a 6s you're running a single battery not two 6s's correct? Also, if I wanted to run two 4s batteries, what ESC would I need?
In this video I was running a 6s single battery, yes. If you wanna run 8s you'll need a spektrum firma 160a esc and 6.5 bullet connectors for your motor
I hope u give it some thought like I said new to this but the weight difference wasn't that much but I gained it back in life of battery and faster I think I retired milliary and don't have a ton of monet to spend on all the cool gadgets u have but I'm sure if u gave it a chance u would see
I have question about the steering linkage setup. I have looked through all your videos and can not find anything about it. If you let me know or send a link?
I changed my fastest boat from 6s to 8s using the same prop the temps dropped and the speed went up. So weird, I guess the boat has less hydronic drag at higher speed but then again more aero drag. It’s opposite to the establishments normal logic. All the forums say prop down when going up in volts. Challenging the narrative, I love it.
Your probably right, sad thing is that they just, within the last year or so started letting guys fish in this pond, I was running my boats here for years without any fishing..
Mr iron don't know if u even read these I'm new to the boat rc and I have the sonicwake reason I commenting is this look all of u talk about heat build upp in the hull I got a small box with a top on it drilled lots of small holes in it then I dropped a piece of dry ice in it ran my boat it seemed cooler way cooler but just an idea everyone knew a cool motor runs faster and cooler battery's last longer
8S is the way to go. She's hauling ass Big B. I got the same set up. Just finishing up some home projects and I'm going to start running the boats everyday. Love your content get me motivated
Hey Big. B, great vid , loved the 6S 8S comparison. 8S obviously can and will give you a PB under ideal conditions, as long as one doesn’t get carried away. You “warned “ all of us in the risk factors involved with 8S. Am sure you will have your rudder repaired “ironclad”. Thanks for giving us the heads up.
Brooo, that thing needs a waaaay bigger pond :)))). Woah, that's a bullet right there! Cheers from Romania!
Wow that was nuts on 8s! Dang I didn’t think that crash was that bad till you showed the damage. 😢
Goes to show water is not to be messed with 😮 I once tried to salto from a pool's spring board and landed back 1st in the water... 1st and last time I tried a salto.
That ride attitude is beautiful on 8s keep it up B, I love my sonicwake boat gang
What a beast now . Can't what to see you put a good stinger adjustable drive on it. This boat now will do 80mph all day long great upgrade this 8s system. Buddy
Can’t wait to see where the ironclad journey takes this 👍 I will be along for the ride 🫡. Thanks for all your hard work 🙏 definitely appreciated BG4L 🤙
11:19 I knew it would run cooler on 8s. Handles the load better like a big block tow rig you know. 72 mph on that pond is magic bro
I wasn't expecting the Temps to be cooler but it makes sense 🤔 I worked my ass off last year to get 67 on 6s. Just to hit 72 in a matter of minutes with an un-tuned boat. Love it
@@IRONCLADRC yep, I see you getting at least another 20+ mph after it’s iron cladded out
Not the fastest boat but one of funnest boats😂 running mine tomorrow in Pennsylvania. Appreciate all the tips , Thanks
I still have the stock esc in my v2 for 2 summers. I ran this prop for a long time and then gave it to my dad to use. I have a x645 on it now and no power cuts even after bashing. However my battery discharge is not as good as these SMC's. I have one of these on the shelf waiting to go in it. I realize now the CNHL 6500 6s pack i have is 90c rated not the 150c rated like i thought. Warmest water temps we get are lower 80s
I'd keep it stock unless you like ordering parts and looking for large(r) spaces to use your RC. Looking at RC videos I've concluded that 60mph/100kmh is the max for both boats and cars while still keeping it max fun. Anything faster sounds and obviously looks great but it creates issues with space and bigger crashes. The videos are awesome to watch though.
I have two Sonicwakes, for tinkering. #1 Had the rudder pull, burnt, and sunk. She’s cleaned, patched, and in dry dock waiting on new guts. Xlx2 and tp 4060-1950kv was intended for 6s 🤞 might have to go 8balls 😅
Wow nice footage! Like yours did just then, the ass end of my boat always seem to hit the water first.
8s pushes it straight out of the hole fair play. 6s is to tame for such a big boat cavitating on take off. You have definitely found the performance the boat should have for bashing hard. Loving that setup Big B, gutted that rudder tore out and ruined the show, Ironclad that and she’s an Animal for sure 😍👍
Always amazed at how well you get a V hull to perform, I find them a complete pain in the butt to set up. Also nice to see the temps a little cooler which is a surprise as normally upping the volts draws more current, which increases the Watts/ heat but I think it could be increased water flow due to the higher speed.
Carbon inlay it too! Especially the transom.
Maybe use hard plate carbon to reinforce the whole transom.
Heck yea this was awesome! Lets see what this hull will do!?
13:29 just did this to mine when it hopped out of pond and did a rail slide for a couple of feet and then peeled the rudder assembly off
Shit fire! You can either thru drill the rudder holes with a nut or oversized the screw w/o nuts.
I like running mine with no backer nut or washer so the rudder will pull out and not damage the hull
@@IRONCLADRC yeah buddy, that’s what I was seriously just contemplating while looking at my hull! Put alittle. Silicone on m4 screws that are alittle longer with no nuts 🥜.
Rc Roland, I have the sonic wake v1, I ran it with two 120c 11.4 v batteries 3s each. And it burned 🔥 my 120A esc do you think the voltage was too high for it, since it only have a single cooling intake water 💧 cooling,
I'll be swapping in a Hydra and 4070-V1 into mine this weekend. I've got a 4519 and a 4814 to try out... I have a feeling I'm going to have a tough time keeping it on the water 😆
Short smoothe full trigger blips batteries forward with the wind. Good luck
Damn she's a beast on 8s. I need this upgrade 😮 Stay tuned to see 8s top speed with the 4519? That's the only upgrade I've done to my v2 (+ a dsservo)
So hopefully when I can get the gadgets to measure all that then I ll let u know just figured if it works as well as it does for me I think your viewers would be thank full 😊
Thanks! I'm looking forward to seeing your results, it's a big help
Runnin slolom course lol nice driving👏
Yeah it's a lot of fun to drive! one mistake DUN DONE!
8s is wicked in this boat 👍
Just need some Spektrum 100C packs.
Then you can get all your temps, rpm, speed, Amps and battery voltage..
All the stuff that makes tue smart technology so sweet!
I know. spektrum packs aint really optimum.
But it is nice once it's all set up on the rugged/5c..
And we need another bash session!
I think the zelos is good to go, again..
Run a pump.
Those temps will drop to sub 100°!
I has a SW V1 with the same exact set up, but the v1s stock Dynamite motor.
Awesome video
I found the same thing to be true on 8s, higher volts, lower temps. Nice run in a small pond! BG4L!
The only thing I'm worried about with this particular setup is the motor, 1900kv that's awful high kv in a heavy boat. The temperatures were cool, so I'm gonna send it.. BG4L
I just picked up a sonic. I did not see a link for the 4S.
Where did you get the kit of props ?? How good is that set
By increasing the voltage the set up 'uses' the voltage more than the amps
resulting in lower temps. Less current draw means less internal resistance.
Upping to 160A / 8S gains lesser temps as well.
Only thing I'm worried about is the motor getting to hot, 1900kv that's kinda high for 8s in this heavy boat, especially with heavier batteries. Oh well, we'll see. I'm just gonna send it. BG4L
@@IRONCLADRC I went down 1550kv on my 3650, but with a 4519, it will still melt the solder off the green wire... oddly, its only ever the green wire.
Similar Sonicwake setup 160a firma, leopard 4074-1750kv, running only 6s ,occasional power cut, and one motor wire melts solder every time, almost regardless of prop. Was trying to remedy, with cap pack, before going 8balls, to avoid bigger mess, screw it, going 8 and hope the hardware hangs on. Gracias 🙏
Add more gap between prop drive dog and the strut
Utah. To get me couple 4s packs,both my sonicwake v2 and my impulse 32 are 8s capable only ran them on 6s interested to see what they run on 4s and do 6 then 8 . Im kinda like you though and try to jeep my bateries in pairs and the good ones cost well you know, 8s soon peace
Roger that, good video idea
So what's the trees out the
There for.
Cool running, especially on 8S...but, I'm thinking, the motor isn't the only thing not designed to handle 8S. Me thinks, the hull, itself, isn't "8S capable"...lol 🤙🏼
But, I still enjoyed watch. Call it "another non-human audition for Cirque du Soleil".
I believe your 1000% right about that. Couldn't agree more, as long as the boat stays on the water it's fine, soon as she starts flying, D.U.N DONE
hii BIG B. Dors the stock flexshaft holds with the 8S or maybe there is a risk it will brake ? or brake the inside stufing tube nylon liner ?
NO I'd upgrade it
@@IRONCLADRC do you know where can i buy the upgrade flexshaft ? what is the ref ?
Nice reeel i run the same boat and mine also overheats all the time im going to trey the 160 amp esc to 🙏
160 should help
45 Years of rc boating has resulted in the optimum combo.
- rigger no doubt fasted ever designed hull
easiest to scratch build and repair
- twin set up stupid high speed (outward ! running props )
no prop walk, so no rudder tweeking to run straight
totally symetrical lay out
less proned to power cut off
longer run times
lower temp readings
smaller rudder needed
- splash cooling plain, smooth rudder so no eratic spin offs
less water resistance
no clogged water lines
double up with y splitters, see IRONCLAD RC vids
Still I like to run a deep vee, cat and three point (semi) scale hydro.
Cause they're all BOATS. That's why.
How did you like 8s I just purchased one thinking about doing the same thing in the ideas
8s is much more fun, I recommend a smaller prop while running 8s.
I have 4519 prop
Stupid question, When you are talking a 6s you're running a single battery not two 6s's correct? Also, if I wanted to run two 4s batteries, what ESC would I need?
In this video I was running a 6s single battery, yes. If you wanna run 8s you'll need a spektrum firma 160a esc and 6.5 bullet connectors for your motor
I hope u give it some thought like I said new to this but the weight difference wasn't that much but I gained it back in life of battery and faster I think I retired milliary and don't have a ton of monet to spend on all the cool gadgets u have but I'm sure if u gave it a chance u would see
I have question about the steering linkage setup. I have looked through all your videos and can not find anything about it. If you let me know or send a link?
I'm working on the repair video now, It should be out tomorrow or the next day. 🤔
@@IRONCLADRC Thank you very much. I look forward to it. Since I have seen your setup with that and I have been nuts searching it.
Haha I understand where you coming from with the mph and your trademark saying knots n no smoke.
That was Fn Awesome!!!!!!!
Now that thing is quick🎉🎉🎉
8s 😍 she is screaming !!!
What size cooling tubes have you got on your sonic wake 36 v2
8mm silicone cooling line, Oxidean Marine ose and zippkits carry the 8mm xl cooling line.
Try a tp 4050 2400kv on 6s w a high amp esc like a 12s esc 400amp then run it 8s
Bro can you recommedn battery for me i have some boat and esc
If someone knows the Darkside wrap guy tell him he needs to sponsor Big-B. I think it would be great advertising.
That would be epic
Yea add washers that way couldn't break off whole rubber
If I need a place to sleep, I’m calling you big B
remove the receiver box and mount the esc on the side of the flood chamber with dual lock velcro, self rights on a dime 👌🏼
Thinking about mounting it on the flood chamber but I'd use 3m mounting tape opposed to dual lock that dual lock breaks loose to easy IMHO. BG4L
FIRST!! BOAT GANG BABY!!
what prop on 8s?
4519
72 knots and NO SMOKE!!
I would like to see how you fix that, epoxy I guess.
Repair video should be out tomorrow morning, BG4L
@@IRONCLADRC That would be interesting. I have the 160a ESC on order and the 45 1.9 prop also, can't wait!
Nice👍👍😎😎
I bought a sonic work tonight
I changed my fastest boat from 6s to 8s using the same prop the temps dropped and the speed went up.
So weird, I guess the boat has less hydronic drag at higher speed but then again more aero drag. It’s opposite to the establishments normal logic. All the forums say prop down when going up in volts.
Challenging the narrative, I love it.
P&R moved those trees, fishermen probably complain about you running boats. 😢
Your probably right, sad thing is that they just, within the last year or so started letting guys fish in this pond, I was running my boats here for years without any fishing..
@@IRONCLADRC Keep doing your thang brotha!
Mr iron don't know if u even read these I'm new to the boat rc and I have the sonicwake reason I commenting is this look all of u talk about heat build upp in the hull I got a small box with a top on it drilled lots of small holes in it then I dropped a piece of dry ice in it ran my boat it seemed cooler way cooler but just an idea everyone knew a cool motor runs faster and cooler battery's last longer
Thanks for the tip! I have never tried that before!
I told you it was ridiculous on 8s lol
Mine will self right some of the time.
FULL TRIGGER
8s 8yes! Beeeeast.
Score a old 40 inch gas RC boat going to convert it to electric with a battery-operated chainsaw motor. wish me luck
WAKE
More voltage = less resistance- cooler temps
How can it run cooler on 8s vs 6s?
TOO TOO FAST!!!🤣🤣😅😅😆😆👍👍🙏🙏😎😎
Fixie forest twins OK GPS
Cooler because of prop. Not 8s
Hi B, When I did this a while ago I broke my flex shaft...keep an eye on this🫣✌🏻