"Why do we have to fight a battle against walking home from a bus stop?", Benny Carson told Us. WATCH next on Sandy Hook parents losing a child to gun violence HERE: bit.ly/2wohW0z
the "free range" moment happens in UK and police arrested the parents as they put their kid in danager. its not ok in US, you guys unlike in england have buses, just let them take buses and world aint safe, knife and gun crime are rampant
VICE News "why do we got to fight a battle?" It'll be ok kid, the media's job nowadays is mostly to keep us afraid. So they make things wayyy more scary than they actually are, exactly like they have done here "fighting a battle "really just means filling out some homework and calling some people, then taking a bath, putting on your church clothes and meeting some other clean safe people at a nice building to ask them if it's ok for you to walk across the park alone. That's it buddy, no helicopters or gunfire, the media is just so wimpy now if they need to get their hair wet they cry its a hurricane and say the sky is falling just to skip bath time. Bunch of wimps that's all.
The only reason I never walked home from school was the fact that I lived 10 miles away from school but I wold walk to my ants or to the store to meet up with my grandparents and never EVER acpted a raise from no one I did not know.
Paranoia is a mind virus. These parents are scared of the next to zero chance of their kids being abducted while they drive their minivans aggressively toward soccer practice daily and let them chug soda.
The cops were once called because my son was sitting in the front yard while I was in the bathroom. CPS came a few days later. This is getting a bit ridiculous.
So many forget that parenting is about raising adults. Over-coddled children taught to be helpless facing the real world often remain that way their entire lives.
It's amazing how things can change relatively quickly. "Free range parenting" was just called "parenting" in the 90's when I was going to elementary school. Walking home unsupervised was normal.
Strix I use to walk miles from school, that was only 2011, we already have half a generation of grown adult babies, if it progresses any more this country is doomed.
Omgggg yesss. Lol I thought the term free range was something completely different. Literally it just simple shit like letting your kids play outside and go to the park. Etc. My school was over a mile away and both of my parents worked an hour away and the school board refused to give me a bus. They said i had to be a mile and a half away. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ I was 12. Times have changed I see.
To the woman in the show who was worried about facebook THEN don't tell facebook what your doing not sure how simple that is. Also another reason not to be on facebook all the time.
if I were the kid you'd have to force a Nokia 3310 upon me for that to work 😂 Though interesting enough you bug those kids with GPS devices and then make no use of it.
That was my thought exactly. In thinking about it more, perhaps the thought process isn’t so much that she (or anyone responsible) would be sharing such info, but that the kids themselves may be. It doesn’t change how I feel, though perhaps that is the idea she had had in mind.
That was all normal... what happened?! If ppl want their kids to walk home from bus stops, let them sign a clear consent form that school, or the driver won't be responsible for ANYTHING and let the parent make the choice for their kids and just respect that
this is so weird for me coming from finland and can move and usually bike to school that is a 15minute bike ride and they wont let them walk across a park? thats absolutely hilarious
Ikr; only time I was taken to school was first grade of first day too. And yeah kids go missing but that's just part of life. You can't shelter your kid from everything. You'll rob him from life. It's risk but all life is risk. Here if they see suspicious vehicles close to school they call police ; they train kids to not trust strangers. I can't imagine having to wait for mom to come for me so I could get home .... that'd be weird to me. If missing kids are problem; make sure police does their work more efficiently ; make sure there is enough police officers; make sure there is higher social equality so that criminal tendencies are less likelly to occur. Hiding kid from real world is just hiding them from much bigger problem. We need to solve bigger problems instead of those temporary solutions. If your neigbourhood is not safe for kids there is something wrong with your neigbourhood; address that. That's how you'll solve problem on long run in generations to come.. You can't just use temporary fixes; it's not gonna solve what it suppose to solve.
same in australia, all of my friends have been making there way to and from school since prep. That could mean walking 500 meters, to getting on a train/tram/bus for over an hour!
In 1987 in USSR when i was 8 y.o. I walked 2 blocks (~800 meters) from home to school and back every day. In 1992 when I was 13 y.o. I travelled to school 4 km on city bus. I think it is absolutely normal to let children go some distance alone.
Kids in the USSR were really free, especially after lessons. They could play in abandoned houses, construction sites, wastelands etc. Sometimes someone was injured or even died. Of cource there were no any legal liabilities. Today in St. Petersburg is almost no abandoned houses and wastelands. Construction sites have secure fences. In 1984 my kindergarten had almost no fence. Today nearby kindergarten have secure fence with barbed wire(!). Kids today are still free, they can play on playgrounds, sports grounds, parks etc. But they prefer to spend time in internet. Unlike kids adults were very unfree in the USSR. That's a separate topic.
Twahir Abubakar I disagree, there was plenty of crime. There is a reason why 1990s are called “the turbulent 90s” in Russia. Crime was rampant, but I walked to school and took buses around my city just fine, came out alive. There was more trust in the community though. That is mostly gone now.
Dream Delirium I’m jealous of Japan, it is a paradise as far as the lack of crime. You can leave your bike unlocked outside of a store and no one is going to steal it for example
Yeap Roma, my kids walking themselfs as well, when you treat kids as a adult they act like an adult . But our country is not a car focused country. Maybe this has to do with anything... who knows.
It's funny how people are perfectly ok with letting kids walk home by themselves (because they did and nothing happened). But the minute something happens to those kids those same people are like "why did the stupid parents let their kids walk home by themselves".
I think it's perfectly fine for most children to play in nearby parks and to walk home from the bus stop. It's also ok to be cautious and there is a such thing as being overboard. Most kidnappers are parents or people the child already knows in some capacity. Overall crime has dropped dramatically in the last 30 years. However, part of that is because of people being a little more cautious. Just because nothing happened to YOU as a kid doesn't mean nothing ever happened to any kid. People aren't any more or less criminally minded. Child deaths in car accidents dropped dramatically because of car seat and seat belt laws, not just by magic. Keeping a closer eye on small children is great but their every waking move does not need to be monitored at all times. It's counterproductive. Let the children live.
It's difficult because one side will say "careless mother", and another will argue that "the neighborhood is 'safe' and therefore such protection is infringing upon personal freedoms". Bad mother vs. Big Brother
promontorium Well I do think that both sides have merit. Children cannot be held responsible for their actions. Not sure which side you are calling paranoia.
Thank you media for scaring the shit out of first time moms and psych jobs. This is what you get. Over protective people that think the worst is around every corner.
This isn’t about keeping kids safe. It’s about making parenting as difficult as possible to force one parent to twiddle their thumbs at home. Or (in the minds of SAHMs) to give further legitimacy to the necessity of staying permanently at home as kids get older.
I'm 29, walked to and from school until i drove myself. Now the elementary school my child goes to wants you to park your car and walk up to get them off the school steps with a sign they passed out to assure your really the parent. I asked for her to be able to just meet me at the car and they acted like I told them to throw my kid in the trash. Same school I attended as a kid mind you.
Yep. I was told I wasn't allowed to pick up my nephew because I wasn't on the school's approved list and I didn't have the decal on my car. My nephew stood right there and said, "It's ok, that's my aunt." My sister-in-law is the PRINCIPAL. She had to come out and tell the lady it was ok. I appreciate trying to keep him safe but there's a fine line.
In Japan, elementary school kids are not allowed to go by car or bicycle, they have to walk to school. Some of then walk an hour, in winter or summer. And they are healthy kids, interact with their society and creates a good environment and neighborhood.
In Japan, where I currently live, kids ride their bikes to the station and then get on the subway and ride it for an hour and a half to get to their school and no one looks twice.
I side with the mother in her right to raise her child in a manner she believes is justified. It must not harm, infringe or deprive another or the child, but doesn’t seem to have such attributes. The school doesn’t have custodial rights and with none, I believe is infringing upon the rights of the mother. Don’t give up the fight!
If your main concern about your child walking home alone is that a predator could look online and find out that your child is alone, then maybe you should do your job as a parent and actually check what your posting online regarding your children, what your children are posting and who can see that information. "But the predators can find out when my child is alone, boo hoo" well maybe you shouldn't be posting or allowing your child to make their location public.
Sharing your personal information is your choice and as an adult and a caretaker you should also consider the ones you are responsible for. For those who feel like there is a danger there should be special treatment but you should not generalize.
Yeah and Adam Walsh was shopping with his mother in a store when he was kidnapped, after which he was then ass raped and beheaded, and the kidnappers played with his severed head....but this kids idiot mother knows best right??? VICE needs to just stick with 2nd amendment rights and it’s useless democratic agenda. There’s a reason why schools care about kids nowadays, it’s called liability. Too many parents lost their children to sick fucks and now u have mass shootings to boot.
I'm 25 now. As a home-schooled student that has been both in and out of the public school system...this is the exact type of shit my mom would say is going to eventually happen. "The school system will eventually be able to control how and when a student walks home". Bam here we are lol. She would always encourage my friends and myself to have a good head on our shoulders and what to do in situation a, b, and c. I think we all turned out okay. Let the kid walk home.
What on earth!? That is insane. The fact that parents who want to let their kids walk home from the bus stop have to have their own label as "free-range" is mildly terrifying. Does not make me feel good about the direction our society is headed...
When I was 7 or 8 years old I could walk home from school... and that was over 3 kilometers. It is totally normal in Norway. My niece is seven, her school is 1 kilometer away and she can walk home from school. I would usually get money for the bus (because it wasn't free), but if I wanted to I could spend my bus money on candy or Spice Girls photos, but then I'd have to walk home. It was a decision I was able to make myself. I was allowed to walk around outside without adults. In most countries in the world this wouldn't even have been an issue to start with.
when your strongest argument is that everyone cann see what you are doing on the internet why dont you just delete those apps or dont post anything private on it? kids should experience life alone/with friends but they should not hand surf on the internet all day long... thats where the real danger is
In the 70s when I was 7 the walk to school was about a 1/4 mile. The dangers began after arriving at school. Bullies, unconcerned teachers, and an unprotective pricipal were common in those days. The world is safer now, child protective rights are in place, which was not the case for millions who managed to survive walking to and from school.
Wow, in primary school we walked the 4km round trip every day, and we were the lucky ones! Some kids in the rural areas of my country still have to walk 10km+ one way!
This is ridicoulous. these sheltered kids will be unfit to take care for themselves when they will grow up. At 7 yo i was walking 3 kilometers to grammar school because there were no school buses, at 11 i was boy scout, going to scout summer camps, spending month straight in forest in tents, using knives, saws, axes and hammers daily... and quess what. I was not abducted, killed by boar, hurt myself or drowned in lake. Because kids really can think for themselves, we only need to allow them to.
I started walking home at 5 years old. You had your own schedule and your parents had their won shit to deal with, the free time you had after school was the best time of my childhood. You'd be considered a baby by your friends if your parents ever showed up after the first day.
I don't get the woman's point about it being safer when she was a kid because of the lack of technology. Instead of you kid disappearing for hours with no contact now all kids have cell phones that you can call at any second.
Christ. I used to walk from one end of the city to the other to get to and from school. And yet now they won't even let a child walk 900 feet by themselves? What?!
It's not safe. These mums are the same ones crying saying it was only a few feet home. If Its that short get ur ass up n meet your child. Let him be excited to see you and tell you about his day on the way home. In england parents meet kids from school till they are in their final yr at primary.
I lived in NYC when my 1st child would walk to school 4 blocks at 7 yrs old. Only reason I paid for bus svc to school was for inclement weather. Younger child begged to walk home from school at that age. I got the kid a phone to call me while walking home in the burbs. They're still here n fiercely independent. Sometimes a little too independent. Counting my blessings none the less.
There are cities near me where kids still walk to school. And where I went to school a few kids did but the majority of us lived way to far to walk. It would have taken me over two hours to get to school if I had walked but we do walk from bus stops to our house without our parents there.
I would pretend to be a innocent little guy just heading home from school. I would hope a pervert tried to pick me up so I could rob him but they must have been onto me.
@3:32 There were way more crimes against children back when she was a child. Over hysterical moms also got an alcohol ban amended into the US Constitution... so never under estimate their unfounded worrying.
Here in the county the busses drop of each kid at their own driveway and still won't let the kids off if they can't see an adult outside. And they keep this policy til the child is 13
I used to hang out after school until my mother was done as a teacher. Old building, big school yard, bus barn full of old Gillig's, people were cool, nobody cared. This lady's making a good point though.
Yeah it may be really strange or even funny to some people that they don’t let them just walk 900 feet until you’re child gets abducted by a predator. And through a park?!!!?
This is so strange. 15+ years ago it was way less safe to let your kid walk around town. Nobody had a cell phone and crime rates were much higher. But nothing ever happened. Unless you live in a truely dangerous neighborhood there is really not a lot that can happen.
What’s the point of taking the bus if you can’t get home from the bus stop? Unless you don’t have a car or a friend or relative with a car, there’s no point in taking the bus.
I walked home from school when I lived in a rural area. I walked home from the bus stop near my house in middle and high school within a suburban area. My mom gave me a 'secret word' for if anyone tried to convince me to get into their car. If it was legit, they'd know it. If not, run and scream. It's not like parents when I was kid were unaware of the possibility of abduction. They just saw it as pretty unlikely and potentially avoidable.
I walk 30 minutes to and from highschool for 5ish years, and before that I walked like 10 minutes for 6 years off and on (My father occasionally drop me off on motorcycle). There's one weird transitional year where I moved to Canada and I took a month of public transit. I don't even know - if the world is so dangerous that your children cannot walk around safety, maybe you should consider making the world safer? I don't know why people need to feel that it's dangerous to walk around. However, I will concede to a point, and it would be nice if there's a middle-ground for the worrying parents: Like children must walk home in groups, preferably with volunteer supervision on top of that. There are tons of solutions, and I am not even using my head.
Im from Norway. Today i walked in -5 degrees celsius, through 2 heavily trafficated roads to get home, it took about 45 mins, god im lucky to not have been abducted
i feel like here in Massachusetts at least in the towns kids are all dropped off almost right in front of their houses and a parents or guardian still has to be there to receive them
I understand the school's position , there has to be a blanket policy, because not all children live in safe neighborhoods and some children are more mature and responsible than other children . But I also worry about big "Nanny States" with too much interference in how parents choose to raise their children .
I could be wrong- but I think that the bigger issue isn’t someone to be there at the stop, but him staying alone until his mom comes home. He seems really young & although she would tend to be home soon, I know various elementary teachers who don’t (and can’t) leave right as school lets out. (I worked at an elementary school).
When I was in school we had one parent or older kid just walk a group of us home. Why can't they just do that? There's literally a mom already at the bus stop.
Meanwhile.... 6 years ago my bus dropped my 12 blocks from home. They wouldn’t drop me off closer because “it wasn’t safe” sooo I had to walk through the whole unsafe part alone by myself.
20 years ago if the walk home wasn't safe, then a parent or friend would escort the child. The school / State has no place to tell Parents how to raise their children.
75 million children in the US and only 65 abducted by strangers in a year, that is a very interesting statistic. I would've expected that number to be much higher.
"Free Range Parenting" should not be term, it should just be parenting. The hover parents are the ones that should be labeled. Let your kid go play outside, be a kid and get into trouble. Its how you learn to deal with life.
In Japan and China children younger than 7 are taking subways and walking miles alone or with other siblings to develop independence and self reliance. It's part of their culture to develop their children extremely young. So why should we as parents not be allowed to do the same here in American where we are "free" . There is no substitute for life experience and if a child doesn't learn young then we see the effects in adult hood. I'm not going to coddle my child because the world isn't safe I'm going to prepare him for all that is life, good or bad.
Biggest issue is calling it free range children. Call it good parenting by not cuddling your kids. When I was 9, I walked 2 miles home from school each day. Kids have to learn basic survival skills in life.
"Why do we have to fight a battle against walking home from a bus stop?", Benny Carson told Us.
WATCH next on Sandy Hook parents losing a child to gun violence HERE: bit.ly/2wohW0z
the "free range" moment happens in UK and police arrested the parents as they put their kid in danager. its not ok in US, you guys unlike in england have buses, just let them take buses and world aint safe, knife and gun crime are rampant
I used to walk home from school. Through hell on earth.
VICE News "why do we got to fight a battle?" It'll be ok kid, the media's job nowadays is mostly to keep us afraid. So they make things wayyy more scary than they actually are, exactly like they have done here "fighting a battle "really just means filling out some homework and calling some people, then taking a bath, putting on your church clothes and meeting some other clean safe people at a nice building to ask them if it's ok for you to walk across the park alone. That's it buddy, no helicopters or gunfire, the media is just so wimpy now if they need to get their hair wet they cry its a hurricane and say the sky is falling just to skip bath time. Bunch of wimps that's all.
The only reason I never walked home from school was the fact that I lived 10 miles away from school but I wold walk to my ants or to the store to meet up with my grandparents and never EVER acpted a raise from no one I did not know.
Paranoia is a mind virus. These parents are scared of the next to zero chance of their kids being abducted while they drive their minivans aggressively toward soccer practice daily and let them chug soda.
Glenn Davis I remember years back I got called in by the police for my brother not being buckled up yet. You know, in the damn parking lot!
wow... seriously??
The Mongols are coming!!
Glenn Davis you forgot while texting on their phones.
People need to stop being NOIDED
The cops were once called because my son was sitting in the front yard while I was in the bathroom. CPS came a few days later. This is getting a bit ridiculous.
Hahaha
Oh nah wtf
So many forget that parenting is about raising adults. Over-coddled children taught to be helpless facing the real world often remain that way their entire lives.
first last psychologists have been warning about the depression and anxiety issues that arise from helicopter parenting for sometime now.
If that's free-range my childhood must have been feral child.
Bahaha. Good one
It's amazing how things can change relatively quickly. "Free range parenting" was just called "parenting" in the 90's when I was going to elementary school. Walking home unsupervised was normal.
Strix I use to walk miles from school, that was only 2011, we already have half a generation of grown adult babies, if it progresses any more this country is doomed.
Omgggg yesss. Lol I thought the term free range was something completely different. Literally it just simple shit like letting your kids play outside and go to the park. Etc. My school was over a mile away and both of my parents worked an hour away and the school board refused to give me a bus. They said i had to be a mile and a half away. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ I was 12. Times have changed I see.
To the woman in the show who was worried about facebook THEN don't tell facebook what your doing not sure how simple that is. Also another reason not to be on facebook all the time.
swardinc fucking exactly
if I were the kid you'd have to force a Nokia 3310 upon me for that to work 😂
Though interesting enough you bug those kids with GPS devices and then make no use of it.
That was my thought exactly. In thinking about it more, perhaps the thought process isn’t so much that she (or anyone responsible) would be sharing such info, but that the kids themselves may be. It doesn’t change how I feel, though perhaps that is the idea she had had in mind.
Possible a lot of people have trouble explaining what they mean I'm the same way but im working on it
I mean if strangers can use your facebook to know where you live or where you are at any given moment you're already fucked...
That was all normal... what happened?!
If ppl want their kids to walk home from bus stops, let them sign a clear consent form that school, or the driver won't be responsible for ANYTHING and let the parent make the choice for their kids and just respect that
People got paranoid
They even said in the video of the hundreds of thousands kids, about only 65 get abducted a year
Athena -that number seems really low,im gonna check that out
nope ... those rates are lower ... people are just more scared because of sensationalism in the media
I agree tho let the parents sing a wavier saying they can gove them a choice i agrer
But that simply isn’t correct. Crime has decreased
this is so weird for me coming from finland and can move and usually bike to school that is a 15minute bike ride and they wont let them walk across a park? thats absolutely hilarious
Hogu Boos America is a bunch of scared babies it sucks
Protectionist society in America.
Hogu Boos human trafficking is very real here with every 2,000 missing per day and 800,000 missing per year
Ikr; only time I was taken to school was first grade of first day too. And yeah kids go missing but that's just part of life. You can't shelter your kid from everything. You'll rob him from life. It's risk but all life is risk. Here if they see suspicious vehicles close to school they call police ; they train kids to not trust strangers. I can't imagine having to wait for mom to come for me so I could get home .... that'd be weird to me. If missing kids are problem; make sure police does their work more efficiently ; make sure there is enough police officers; make sure there is higher social equality so that criminal tendencies are less likelly to occur. Hiding kid from real world is just hiding them from much bigger problem. We need to solve bigger problems instead of those temporary solutions. If your neigbourhood is not safe for kids there is something wrong with your neigbourhood; address that. That's how you'll solve problem on long run in generations to come.. You can't just use temporary fixes; it's not gonna solve what it suppose to solve.
He’s not only walking home.... he’s walking home to an empty house. Would you let your 6 year old spend a couple of hours alone in an empty house?
In Germany this "free-range" parenting style is completely normal... Nobody bats an eye when children go home from school on their own
same in australia, all of my friends have been making there way to and from school since prep. That could mean walking 500 meters, to getting on a train/tram/bus for over an hour!
This woman is just trying to raise a functional human being. Clearly we've gone too far in the name of safety
Back in the day this was normal :( like not locking your door
Then 70's came - drug gangs; 80's - serial killers; 90's - mass shootings
Tommy Reusse not locking your door was only ever a thing in rural areas.....
True
Now you have to pick every locks, crazy right?
I'm 23 and walking as a kid was normal when I was young. The paranoia is getting out of hand.
And here in germany, poeple give parents a strange look if they collect their kids from the school/bus. Seen as helicopter perenting.
I hope it stays that way
Genau. Aber hier in den USA werde ich als ‘Rabenmutter’ beschimpft.
In 1987 in USSR when i was 8 y.o. I walked 2 blocks (~800 meters) from home to school and back every day. In 1992 when I was 13 y.o. I travelled to school 4 km on city bus.
I think it is absolutely normal to let children go some distance alone.
Kids in the USSR were really free, especially after lessons. They could play in abandoned houses, construction sites, wastelands etc. Sometimes someone was injured or even died. Of cource there were no any legal liabilities.
Today in St. Petersburg is almost no abandoned houses and wastelands. Construction sites have secure fences. In 1984 my kindergarten had almost no fence. Today nearby kindergarten have secure fence with barbed wire(!). Kids today are still free, they can play on playgrounds, sports grounds, parks etc. But they prefer to spend time in internet.
Unlike kids adults were very unfree in the USSR. That's a separate topic.
Well that's because there was no crime in the old USSR, America on the other hand...
the old ussr was a crime on itself
Twahir Abubakar I disagree, there was plenty of crime. There is a reason why 1990s are called “the turbulent 90s” in Russia. Crime was rampant, but I walked to school and took buses around my city just fine, came out alive. There was more trust in the community though. That is mostly gone now.
@@barmaley1982 well in the 90s the USSR dissolved into russia
Nothing changed really.... But the anxiety in peoples exposure to unlimited information has raised to the point where everything is dangerous.....
Dane Pacheco Actually things have changed, less crime now.
you could argue that its made everything safe actually
24 hour news cycle made gen Xers paranoid af. Sad.
Say it loader for the people in the back!!!
KG100 Entertainment If you call a massive increase in depression, anxiety and lack of ability to handle adult life safe.
I would walk home by myself at the age of 7.
I rode the BUS alone at the age of 6.
Dream Delirium I’m jealous of Japan, it is a paradise as far as the lack of crime. You can leave your bike unlocked outside of a store and no one is going to steal it for example
The same. In first grade (6 yo) I went to school with brother, but next year I went by public tram (6 stops) alone.
I'm from Ukraine.
Yeap Roma, my kids walking themselfs as well, when you treat kids as a adult they act like an adult . But our country is not a car focused country. Maybe this has to do with anything... who knows.
That's ridiculous, even in the 90s I could walk home from school as a 6 year old.
Um.. since when is parenting called free range parenting? I walked home when I was a kid. I wandered wild with no adults... It's crazy.
It's funny how people are perfectly ok with letting kids walk home by themselves (because they did and nothing happened). But the minute something happens to those kids those same people are like "why did the stupid parents let their kids walk home by themselves".
I think it's perfectly fine for most children to play in nearby parks and to walk home from the bus stop. It's also ok to be cautious and there is a such thing as being overboard. Most kidnappers are parents or people the child already knows in some capacity. Overall crime has dropped dramatically in the last 30 years. However, part of that is because of people being a little more cautious. Just because nothing happened to YOU as a kid doesn't mean nothing ever happened to any kid. People aren't any more or less criminally minded. Child deaths in car accidents dropped dramatically because of car seat and seat belt laws, not just by magic. Keeping a closer eye on small children is great but their every waking move does not need to be monitored at all times. It's counterproductive. Let the children live.
It's difficult because one side will say "careless mother", and another will argue that "the neighborhood is 'safe' and therefore such protection is infringing upon personal freedoms". Bad mother vs. Big Brother
thomas f One side is using facts, the other side is using paranoia. It's not an even sided debate.
promontorium Well I do think that both sides have merit. Children cannot be held responsible for their actions. Not sure which side you are calling paranoia.
My paranoia has more conviction than your facts, that why facts lose. It's sad.
that kids haircut though
Thank you media for scaring the shit out of first time moms and psych jobs. This is what you get. Over protective people that think the worst is around every corner.
This isn’t about keeping kids safe. It’s about making parenting as difficult as possible to force one parent to twiddle their thumbs at home.
Or (in the minds of SAHMs) to give further legitimacy to the necessity of staying permanently at home as kids get older.
Here in Cali at 2:00 -3:00pm the streets are packed with kids walking home from school.
Fernandro same with here in Seattle. "Free range" aka fly over bullshit.
I'm 29, walked to and from school until i drove myself. Now the elementary school my child goes to wants you to park your car and walk up to get them off the school steps with a sign they passed out to assure your really the parent. I asked for her to be able to just meet me at the car and they acted like I told them to throw my kid in the trash. Same school I attended as a kid mind you.
Yep. I was told I wasn't allowed to pick up my nephew because I wasn't on the school's approved list and I didn't have the decal on my car. My nephew stood right there and said, "It's ok, that's my aunt." My sister-in-law is the PRINCIPAL. She had to come out and tell the lady it was ok. I appreciate trying to keep him safe but there's a fine line.
In Japan, elementary school kids are not allowed to go by car or bicycle, they have to walk to school. Some of then walk an hour, in winter or summer. And they are healthy kids, interact with their society and creates a good environment and neighborhood.
No bicycle? Until what age?
I walked home everyday til i got a car. I graduated 2 years ago like wtf happened
In Japan, where I currently live, kids ride their bikes to the station and then get on the subway and ride it for an hour and a half to get to their school and no one looks twice.
Japan has way less crime it is not a fair comparison.
6 years later & this is so odd. All the kids walk/bike etc from school here.
That social media mom is passing in her paranoia!
In retrospect this reminds me of that episode of South Park where the parents freak out about child abduction and start going to school with them.
I side with the mother in her right to raise her child in a manner she believes is justified. It must not harm, infringe or deprive another or the child, but doesn’t seem to have such attributes. The school doesn’t have custodial rights and with none, I believe is infringing upon the rights of the mother. Don’t give up the fight!
At the same time, this also leaves the school at risk for being held accountable for a potiental kidnapping.
If your main concern about your child walking home alone is that a predator could look online and find out that your child is alone, then maybe you should do your job as a parent and actually check what your posting online regarding your children, what your children are posting and who can see that information. "But the predators can find out when my child is alone, boo hoo" well maybe you shouldn't be posting or allowing your child to make their location public.
Sharing your personal information is your choice and as an adult and a caretaker you should also consider the ones you are responsible for. For those who feel like there is a danger there should be special treatment but you should not generalize.
Yeah and Adam Walsh was shopping with his mother in a store when he was kidnapped, after which he was then ass raped and beheaded, and the kidnappers played with his severed head....but this kids idiot mother knows best right??? VICE needs to just stick with 2nd amendment rights and it’s useless democratic agenda. There’s a reason why schools care about kids nowadays, it’s called liability. Too many parents lost their children to sick fucks and now u have mass shootings to boot.
I'm 25 now. As a home-schooled student that has been both in and out of the public school system...this is the exact type of shit my mom would say is going to eventually happen. "The school system will eventually be able to control how and when a student walks home". Bam here we are lol. She would always encourage my friends and myself to have a good head on our shoulders and what to do in situation a, b, and c. I think we all turned out okay. Let the kid walk home.
I wouldn't let him walk that 900ft either. Not with that haircut....
Remember when "free range" parenting was just parenting?
What on earth!? That is insane. The fact that parents who want to let their kids walk home from the bus stop have to have their own label as "free-range" is mildly terrifying. Does not make me feel good about the direction our society is headed...
So sad that people are scared to do anything anymore, and insist on taking away other people's rights too. What happened to the US?
Are these kids like farm fresh free range chickens?
Yup! and just as deli.... delightful... yea... >.>
Parents with too much time on their hands and an overprotective school board make for a shitty child hood
When I was 7 or 8 years old I could walk home from school... and that was over 3 kilometers. It is totally normal in Norway. My niece is seven, her school is 1 kilometer away and she can walk home from school. I would usually get money for the bus (because it wasn't free), but if I wanted to I could spend my bus money on candy or Spice Girls photos, but then I'd have to walk home. It was a decision I was able to make myself. I was allowed to walk around outside without adults. In most countries in the world this wouldn't even have been an issue to start with.
What changes??? Pedophiles, sexual abuse etc
when your strongest argument is that everyone cann see what you are doing on the internet why dont you just delete those apps or dont post anything private on it? kids should experience life alone/with friends but they should not hand surf on the internet all day long... thats where the real danger is
Gee, I grew up in the 70's and this was no big deal to walk home from school alone. I feel lucky I've missed all this b.s.
In the 70s when I was 7 the walk to school was about a 1/4 mile. The dangers began after arriving at school. Bullies, unconcerned teachers, and an unprotective pricipal were common in those days. The world is safer now, child protective rights are in place, which was not the case for millions who managed to survive walking to and from school.
This kids gets it.
Wow, in primary school we walked the 4km round trip every day, and we were the lucky ones! Some kids in the rural areas of my country still have to walk 10km+ one way!
This is ridicoulous. these sheltered kids will be unfit to take care for themselves when they will grow up. At 7 yo i was walking 3 kilometers to grammar school because there were no school buses, at 11 i was boy scout, going to scout summer camps, spending month straight in forest in tents, using knives, saws, axes and hammers daily... and quess what. I was not abducted, killed by boar, hurt myself or drowned in lake. Because kids really can think for themselves, we only need to allow them to.
Parents today are to paranoid. People should be allowed to parent the way that they want to, as long as the child is happy and healthy.
I remember in elementary my sisters and I walked back and forth all the time and we lived on the bad side of town, no worries.
I started walking home at 5 years old. You had your own schedule and your parents had their won shit to deal with, the free time you had after school was the best time of my childhood. You'd be considered a baby by your friends if your parents ever showed up after the first day.
I don't get the woman's point about it being safer when she was a kid because of the lack of technology.
Instead of you kid disappearing for hours with no contact now all kids have cell phones that you can call at any second.
Free range? back in my day that was called being a parent. I walked home from school by myself and I lived in one of the badness parts of Cleveland.
Christ. I used to walk from one end of the city to the other to get to and from school. And yet now they won't even let a child walk 900 feet by themselves? What?!
It's not safe. These mums are the same ones crying saying it was only a few feet home. If Its that short get ur ass up n meet your child. Let him be excited to see you and tell you about his day on the way home. In england parents meet kids from school till they are in their final yr at primary.
I lived in NYC when my 1st child would walk to school 4 blocks at 7 yrs old. Only reason I paid for bus svc to school was for inclement weather. Younger child begged to walk home from school at that age. I got the kid a phone to call me while walking home in the burbs. They're still here n fiercely independent. Sometimes a little too independent. Counting my blessings none the less.
I get what she’s saying but I’m walking my kids home until they’re 21. Lol after that I’ll stalk them in my inconspicuous car and clothes.
Sheena Bailey helicopter....
I love how free range parenting is just parenting
There are cities near me where kids still walk to school. And where I went to school a few kids did but the majority of us lived way to far to walk. It would have taken me over two hours to get to school if I had walked but we do walk from bus stops to our house without our parents there.
When I was a kid we free ranged in the hills and made stick forts. I feel bad for city kids
I would pretend to be a innocent little guy just heading home from school. I would hope a pervert tried to pick me up so I could rob him but they must have been onto me.
@3:32 There were way more crimes against children back when she was a child. Over hysterical moms also got an alcohol ban amended into the US Constitution... so never under estimate their unfounded worrying.
I used to walk home from school 3 miles in snow uphill both ways.
I use to walk two miles to and from school every day as a kid. What the hell has happened?
Here in the county the busses drop of each kid at their own driveway and still won't let the kids off if they can't see an adult outside. And they keep this policy til the child is 13
This a bit weird for someone from the UK. Most kids over the age over 7-8 walk home from the bus stop with there friends after school.
I used to hang out after school until my mother was done as a teacher. Old building, big school yard, bus barn full of old Gillig's, people were cool, nobody cared. This lady's making a good point though.
Yeah it may be really strange or even funny to some people that they don’t let them just walk 900 feet until you’re child gets abducted by a predator. And through a park?!!!?
This is so strange. 15+ years ago it was way less safe to let your kid walk around town. Nobody had a cell phone and crime rates were much higher. But nothing ever happened. Unless you live in a truely dangerous neighborhood there is really not a lot that can happen.
ive been walking home alone since 6 years old........ this is a problem? wtf
What’s the point of taking the bus if you can’t get home from the bus stop? Unless you don’t have a car or a friend or relative with a car, there’s no point in taking the bus.
I walked home from school when I lived in a rural area. I walked home from the bus stop near my house in middle and high school within a suburban area. My mom gave me a 'secret word' for if anyone tried to convince me to get into their car. If it was legit, they'd know it. If not, run and scream.
It's not like parents when I was kid were unaware of the possibility of abduction. They just saw it as pretty unlikely and potentially avoidable.
Helicopter parents are bad
whats the opposite of "free range" ? it's caged. don't force kids into a cage just so there is no possibility of danger in their lives.
I walk 30 minutes to and from highschool for 5ish years, and before that I walked like 10 minutes for 6 years off and on (My father occasionally drop me off on motorcycle). There's one weird transitional year where I moved to Canada and I took a month of public transit. I don't even know - if the world is so dangerous that your children cannot walk around safety, maybe you should consider making the world safer? I don't know why people need to feel that it's dangerous to walk around.
However, I will concede to a point, and it would be nice if there's a middle-ground for the worrying parents: Like children must walk home in groups, preferably with volunteer supervision on top of that. There are tons of solutions, and I am not even using my head.
CLICK BAIT!! she's not a "free range" parent . . . this is a normal dispute
Im from Norway. Today i walked in -5 degrees celsius, through 2 heavily trafficated roads to get home, it took about 45 mins, god im lucky to not have been abducted
Meanwhile in Japan, kids go to and come back from school, using the train, which goes further than 900 feet.
I walked 5 miles home every day... hope you win this fight!
Kids in Japan start travel to school on their own starting from 4. Not grade 4, 4 years old.
i feel like here in Massachusetts at least in the towns kids are all dropped off almost right in front of their houses and a parents or guardian still has to be there to receive them
I understand the school's position , there has to be a blanket policy, because not all children live in safe neighborhoods and some children are more mature and responsible than other children . But I also worry about big "Nanny States" with too much interference in how parents choose to raise their children .
I live in West Europe and we don’t gave school buses to begin with. Elementary school kids take public transport ON THEIR OWN.
I could be wrong- but I think that the bigger issue isn’t someone to be there at the stop, but him staying alone until his mom comes home. He seems really young & although she would tend to be home soon, I know various elementary teachers who don’t (and can’t) leave right as school lets out. (I worked at an elementary school).
This is ridiculous! Everyone can't pick up their child from the bus stop not to mention kids in the inner city sometimes have to do it
When I was in school we had one parent or older kid just walk a group of us home. Why can't they just do that? There's literally a mom already at the bus stop.
I wouldn't call her 'free-range' for allowing her kid to walk 900 feet to his house.
Meanwhile.... 6 years ago my bus dropped my 12 blocks from home. They wouldn’t drop me off closer because “it wasn’t safe” sooo I had to walk through the whole unsafe part alone by myself.
The kid looks like Travis from taxi driver with that haircut
She’s trying to raise him the old way and modern parenting doesn’t allow for that
20 years ago if the walk home wasn't safe, then a parent or friend would escort the child. The school / State has no place to tell Parents how to raise their children.
75 million children in the US and only 65 abducted by strangers in a year, that is a very interesting statistic. I would've expected that number to be much higher.
Sign something that says they're not liable for your child after he leaves the bus. wish it was that simple. People suck
We always walked home. From age 5 and up. We walked well over a mile.
"Free Range Parenting" should not be term, it should just be parenting. The hover parents are the ones that should be labeled. Let your kid go play outside, be a kid and get into trouble. Its how you learn to deal with life.
In Japan and China children younger than 7 are taking subways and walking miles alone or with other siblings to develop independence and self reliance. It's part of their culture to develop their children extremely young. So why should we as parents not be allowed to do the same here in American where we are "free" . There is no substitute for life experience and if a child doesn't learn young then we see the effects in adult hood. I'm not going to coddle my child because the world isn't safe I'm going to prepare him for all that is life, good or bad.
It is her child!
Biggest issue is calling it free range children. Call it good parenting by not cuddling your kids. When I was 9, I walked 2 miles home from school each day. Kids have to learn basic survival skills in life.
The fact that in the US wanting your kid to walk home from school is news worthy is amazing for me.