How long will an engine run with no bearings?
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In this episode we see whether a Lada engine even needs crankshaft bearings.
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Running an engine with no bearings, worried about having an old oil filter. Got it.
Yeah i was thinking the same lol.
That part made me chuckle when I was working on this one.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oil pressure is important, if they had planned to run it long having a totally blocked up oil filter would have just caused the engine to heat seize rather than smash a rod like it did
Man. The disclaimers want to make me want to try it even more.
i love how the translator guy does a slightly higher pitched voice when someone else is talking lmao
Sounds like a chica. Haha
If you haven't seen the one where they turn a car into a sauna and drive around, you need to.
BMI Russian is the cherry on top
lol right I love watching it though I love them overalls lol
To distinguish that someone else is talking
- Blows up motor
"we did well." Absolutely!" - Garage 54
107 % success!
Engine going from ~4000 RPM to full stop in an instant, that's what I call 107% engine carnage :-)
113% percent success rate!
@@mikeznel6048
Impossible.
107 % is the max😅
@@erikdikkers7931 They just round it up. Actually it is 106.9999999999 percent. 107 is just a theoretical max but current science cannot quite get there yet.
Recycle time..
Nyet doubt. Sorry I do not know how to say doubt in Russian 😐.
Mr. Piston why you down here in the crankcase?? Too much Vodka 😂😂😂😂😂
I literally just finished putting al my pistons together and havent got bearings yet, then i seen this recently come out😂
Tell the truth!, you were thinking about putting it together without the bearings weren't ya?, lol
this video clearly shows evidence the bearings are optional.
Just please for the love of god hope that no one thinks that this is something they should try.
@@jerryb1234 it crossed my mind (;
Gotta love this channel always keeps ya coming back
Try and run an engine with like two pistons removed so that is basically becomes an inline 2
Theese German guys already did it: th-cam.com/video/5A36Xwj9SEU/w-d-xo.html
John Deere already beat ya to that idea
Lol
@@Nasahatapimapetilan It's always the Germans huh?
@@matthewmorgan582 It's always either the Russians or the Germans.
@@matthewmorgan582 Third time is the charm
cool! i remember when i was younger i had a 1983 chevy cavalier with a 2.0L engine. it blew up so bad at only 40mph that it sent a rod through the engine block and it was the size to fit 2 closed fists inside! it was that much of a bang! ahhh..yes..memories of a teenager who didn't care..lol!
I DRIVE A 1986 CAVALIER WITH THE 2.0L ENGINE. I HAVE HAD IT 20 YEARS NOW GREAT CAR. I PUT NEW BEARINGS AND CRANK IN IT IN 2003 AFTER DRIVING A YEAR WITH A ROD KNOCK. IT NEVER BLEW.
@@MrHeavychevy86 Lucky man! LOL!
I'm in the UK I've got a vauxhall cavalier gsi turbo
@@thomasmcdougall8059 that'd be a sweet ride. my family is from the UK (Scotland), but i've never seen one since it's been ages since i've been across the pond.
Who else was paying more attention to the cybertruck in the background
I would love to see you guys try gasoline as coolant in a couple different engine types. Excellent as always 👍🇨🇦
hmmm....
If it has a bad head gasket, what would happen, would it just run rich, or would the fuel in the coolant get ignited?
@@LatvianVideo ummm it would burn like normal
My guess is that the gasoline inside the cooling system would not ignite (given the lack of air).
@HELLFISH some cooling systems are sealed under pressure, including the reservoir. I wonder how much pressure could build up?
I love how they are deadpanning the comedy here. " so much oil" and "the gasket is torn for some reason" or "its just a loose bolt" . Im dying
I had an idea for you guys to try, how about fixing an engines flywheel to a stand and starting the engine so the whole engine rotates. I think it would need to be a diesel engine
WHAT LOL
The French built a plane like that, where the crank was attached to the fuselage, and the block was attached to the propeller. I believe that was done to make sure it got plenty of air since it was air cooled :p IIRC, it was a 2-smoker, and they said it turned one way really good, but not the other way.
@@Iowa599 I believe that was the WW 1 Sopwith Camel with a radial engine. The rotating inertia meant it could roll one way easier that the other.
@@Iowa599 The gnome rotary, imagine the whole engine working as a gyroscope, in a PLANE!
Not an easy engine to start apparently.
@@Iowa599 The gnome rotary, imagine the whole engine working as a gyroscope, in a PLANE!
Not an easy engine to start apparently.
Any normal person : "Gonna take care of that engine"
Garage54: "We did it, it seized !"
I lost a piston rod bearing on one cylinder three weeks ago. But decided to drive the 20 kilometers back home anyway. The engine lost a bit of power and sounded like a bag of bolts. But I avoided high revs and actually made it all the way home.
@biryanikebab Yes, and the rod was bent too. When I got home, I took the oil pan off just to have a quick look. What was left of the bearing was at the bottom of the pan. I didn't undo the bolts on the rod to check the shaft surface, but it must have been damaged. I knew what was wrong when it happened, just from the sound. The car is in the junkyard now.
Smart. Rather than a $200 tow, completely destroy the entire engine.
@@markgunther2502 That car was maybe worth $1000 before the bearing broke. Towing in Sweden is close to $400. And I would still have to spend about a grand on the renovation. As soon as the bearing gave up, the rod and the crank was worthless too. So I would have to spend roughly $1400 and a lot of work to get a $1000 car. Nope, not me. I scrapped it and got $500.
@@GAIS414 Your numbers are way off. I spun a bearing and replaced all the rod and main bearings with the engine in the car for a total cost of about $60 including a new oil pan gasket. The crank was lightly scored but easily can be sanded down in the car as well.
@@markgunther2502 Hahaha! I can tell you don't live in Sweden. And sanding down the crank because of some discoloration? Really?
Anyway, the bearing didn't spin, it disintegrated! There was no bearing what so ever between the rod and the crank. But I bet you would spend the money to get that car back to it's former craptacular glory. Believe me, the car wasn't worth keeping. Even before the bearing decided to become one with the engine oil.
You guys have a great imagination keep them coming
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I haven't seen the Cybertruck since it was some lengths of inch stock!
I'd like to see a "lada?" motor converted to a 2 cylinder 2 stroke. Use 2 cylinders like compressors to pull air and fuel mix into and then push it into the intake port (On the side) and have a lower exhaust port on the opposite side. I think it could be pretty awesome. No fuel mix required. Water cooled. Sump and pan lubricated. I figure you would have HP gains if the compression and displacement is 50% or more of the original. You could dump the cam shaft and practically make your own head with a flat plate steel and air compressor one way valves; drill for plugs and to make it simple use small engine coils. A bit of welding and there you go. I would like to say if this ever happens I would love to see a dynamo reading before and after. even if there is a loss.
That is an awesome idea
Those main bearings were once made of leather. My grandfather told me he always carried a rolled up sheet of leather in his Model T and would change bearings on long trips...that and he carried tire irons to remove tires and patch them.
Let’s not forget MG gaskets made of cork :-)
Note to self , "do not drive engine with bearings removed"
Its page 4 of every owners manual by federal law XP
Good old Lada durability, these cars are virtually indestructible❤️
I saw a story about a guy that was towing his Jeep with his Rv . He had left it in compound low. They said by the time he hit 60 mph it was turning over 50,000 rpms !!! . That would be something to see
I saw a story yesterday where someone was towing a modern Mini Cooper behind an RV and left it in first gear, it blew holes all over the block and gearbox......goodnight Vienna 🤣
The engine and trans literally blew up on that jeep... it didn't just send a rod through the block, the crank came apart and fragmented everything. Pretty crazy.
Worst I've seen in person is a cummins diesel with 500 miles on it. One of the wrist pins came loose and blew the block completely in half. The only thing holding it together was the head.
Someone mentioned that flat-towed Jeep Wrangler in a comment some months ago. The G54 guys should definitely try replicating that specific scenario :-)
@@wayshot Oh yes I'd be up for watching that video, especially if they had cameras hooked up in the engine bay to watch it let go.
@@graemew7001 They could use their Hummer to tow a Lada in 1st gear, or maybe use their wheel-spinning machine to spin some small engine beyond 10k RPM.
This was an awesome experiment , the carnage was a lot more than I expected. Perhaps another fun experiment could be with the main bearings. Keep the front and rear bearings in place and remove the center two bearings. plug the oil feed for the missing bearings and see how much stress the crankshaft can take.
Dont try this with your lawnmower engine powered Insight. PS , waiting for your vids.
@@stoneheart9679 We are posing an update video in less than 24 hrs.. stay tuned!
Garage54: I love old Ladas, so well built. (Proceeds to destroy every single one in existence)
They just make them better
I'd be curious to see how pouring some babbit bearings would work.
How long would lead bearings last? (Not long obv but still curious.)
@@billbergen9169 They used them for years in steam engines.
@@billbergen9169 Probably forever if you did it right. I bet they wont take much power, but in a craptastic Lada, you'd probably never know the difference.
@@tippyc2 but wouldn't the engine need to be balanced?
@@billbergen9169 If it was balanced without the bearings, any imbalance you add with bearing material is probably negligible, especially at
Great video. Those little engines are so strong.
u got some beautiful cars in ur garage and love the mad stuff u do on your channel ❤ keep up the good work lads 👊
4:12 You can see the dip-stick spin a bit before the catastrophic failure. Something hit it lol
man how happy he gets when the engine siezes 🤣🤣
Before you start this engine, let me just say that the sound that engine is going to emit is going to hurt my heart. Mechanical sympathy I suppose...
Ptsd
Perfect way to destroy an engine. You guys are crazy 😂 and I like it!
I’m going to try this on my engine now, due to complete boredom.
8:41 also a little bit english I am proud of you you are doing a great job
I am glad you are doing well friend. This video is amazing!!
Very educational. Now I learned something very significant. It has to do with the air cooled four cylinder engine in VW type I and II 1971. Those engines had a problem with dropping a valve into number 3 cylinder or spinning number 3 rod bearing. Now I see what would go wrong if one were to continue to drive with the rod knock. Thank you.
How to make a gasoline engine sound like a diesel with over-advanced injection timing.
Main bearings seized up, because connecting rod journals "leaked" oil pressure. Oil lights sensor could turn light off like something 0.2bar which isnt enough to bearings
"Drunk and penniless?"
"Nope, piston broke!"
:P
Legit though that merch looks *sick.*
ikr i seriously considering buying some but shipping things to my country is so fucking complicated
I hydro-locked a Volvo 340 engine going through a flood. I didn't realise the air intake was just above the spoiler! I flushed the engine with new oil and fired it up, it did sound a little rough but took it out for a run anyway..... A rod let go as I shifted into second, took out both sides of the block and punched holes in the sump..... left a trail of Oil and bits of metal down the road, but still ran on 3 cylinders enough to get it home. :-)
That Lada is now a Nada. You boys did good on this one!
Run an engine with the heaviest motor oil. Better still, fill crankcase with STP Oil Treatment or Motor Honey any thick engine additive.
Good idear.
Those are all around 50 weight. Need to use 70 weight engine oil
I dont know why, but I laughed so hard when it came suddenly to a stop 😂
You guys blew this one out of the water! AWESOME
I once saw a mechanic friend rebuilding a DKW engine and he was lining the big end bearings with cork strips. He said this was his racing engine.
2:17 "That is a Lada play"
My father owned a 1940's car that had destroyed the main bearings. He could drive it up to about 40 mph before he would hear the crankshaft bouncing in what was left of the bearings. He eventually sold or gave it to someone who drove it until it couldn't go over 20 mph, then parked it, and probably scrapped it. ;)
Ya should've taken it for a quick ride, before ya revved it to the moon, it probably would've lasted awhile, great video, thanks for sharing.
4:29 he speaks english he said the heck good job vlad 👌🏻👍🏻
Okay thank you
Believe it or not..all these crazy experiments with the engines actually makes him a really good engine tech.
Oh I know that he use to be piston that was funny . Love this channel you guys are crazy with your experiments but that's what makes this show awesome to watch
As an engine builder I have to say this kind of video.....is hilarious lol
the skirt crack from the vibrations. i tried it too. im sure the last piston also got cracked skirts. try using a tracer liquid that penetrate into cracks or make a thin mixture of thinner and paint .
if im right you wear a beer helmet in a episode XD
Cool vid and to the point. I dig it. Thanks.
I love his genuine surprise when it first blew up. 🤣
Finally back!
Same experiment but fill the sump to the top with axel grease!
This is what I call "Go big or go home." Lol.
back in Australia's pioneering days the outback people have to use bamboo and other kinds of wood as bearings to get them to help. The old land rovers i believe ran ok on someone's leather belt cut in strips.
Try bearings made from JB Weld.
You guys should hook up four brake masters directly to each corner of the car's brakes and operate them with a lever mounted to a ball at the bottom, simulating a joystick. Space the masters (or even use clutch masters, no need for a tandem piston setup) out in an X arrangement. Use the brakes to steer. Hook up the throttle to the steering wheel. Organize a race with your crewmen.
Hey their fellas,
How about making your own high lift cam shaft. I mean very high lift!! Take you old cam shaft, weld more metal on each lobe then machine very high lift lobes.
YES
Can we see you try sandpaper as the bearing next time, love the content boys
Vlad and team never fail to entertain!
I'm shocked how fast you got that reaction
The second spark plug from the left moved just before it seized lol
Compression test before and after...running with two tubes of valve grinding compound mixed with oil! :-D
Don't know if you have done this yet, but diesel fuel instead of oil? Maybe 50-50 first, but onli diesel at last? Would be interesting 🤠
My very first car wayback in the mists of time was a '72 Hillman Avenger...paid £100 for it and I drove it from London to the top of Scotland and back down to the tip of Cornwall and everywhere between. I was heading to Liverpool from London when in the last few miles of the motorway unbeknown to me I sprung an oil leak and the first thing I knew about it was the oil light popping on just before the engine exploded... so ended my Hillman Avenger but managed to coast the last few meters to park off the motorway.
A guy I know drove a Buick with rod knock around for years, and he beat the crap out of it, and somehow it never died as long as he had it, which was a couple years with a 50 mile a day commute.
Hay guys i like your videos and i had question for while :- can we drive car while installing wheels inside out?
Never knew how beefy Lada rods are but a down fall on the cap being a little thin but still pretty impressive engine compared to our American cars for sure 😂
American cars have been trash since 1970 - but still cool, I like Cadillacs
American companies aren't idiots. They can build better but it is "better" for them to build things that break so you have to buy another or pay exorbitant prices for repairs. We have to get these NWO tools outta here.
@@dakoderii4221 they are idiots afterall, people buy Hondas because they know they are reliable, they have trust.
The problem is American manufacturers see everything as disposable. I took a Ford class to learn about a specific diesel engine and even on a diesel, something you expect to last a long time, the manufacturers only expect the lifetime to be around 150k miles. Once it hits that mileage it's supposed to hit a scrap yard according to them.
Cole Cooper you are correct…. In some makes there are internal parts (engine and transmission) that are actually designed to fail after a considerable amount of miles. Sad…. I drive a pair of Toyota 4Runners, one with 255k the other 290k…. Fixing frame rot on one only because at 290k miles it runs smooth, shifts like silk, goes dead straight and the a/c blows ice cold…Not the first Toyota frame I’ve fixed and surely won’t be the last.
got something id love to see but dont know where to post! Create a high lift cam using metal cable ties on the cam lobes see if it makes a
difference in performance !
lol that poor motor was Rappin like 50-Cent xD ! ! LMFAO
Loving that ska background music :D
Yeah!
The only guys crazy enough to intentionally invite Uncle Rodney over.
Bro that oil pan bolt got RAILED in lol
Have we tried plastic bearings yet? i think like plastic bearings might last longer than the wood ones like a really slippery but hard plastic one that doesnt melt but snaps kinda of stuff.
This was great!
you guys are NUTS ... LOVE IT :)
that damage was massive :D
Can you do a test with helmholz resonators on the exhaust? See how many you need to silence all exhaust noise?
I suggest, if it hasn't been done, for a next video to take a lada, test the speed, and remove one piston, one piston rod and set that valves so they stay close, so you have a 3 cylinder lada to test. And than a 2, and then a one....
At 4:20 (nice) if you watch the dipstick you can see the exact moment it caught the impact.
You knew this was going to be a short video even before seeing the length of the video.
He got teslva with lada engine love your videos
Love the cyber truck ☺️
I wonder how it run with rods that had a tighter clearance. Closer to or the same clearances as it would with bearings.
It will run just fine, bearings exist because it is cheaper to replace a tiny bearing rather than a whole rod
@@lorenaswift I figured it would seeing as how my Audi doesn't have cam bearings, it would just be fun to try I guess.
@@4BillC most engines dont have cam bearings....
I'm sure that 15w-50 helped delay the inevitable destruction. Should have just filled it with straight Lucas to fill up the massive clearances.
The last time my pistons got twisted I bought piston return springs and they all straightened back out by the next oil change.
a spun bearing was the first death of my V6 Charger, didn't know what it was and drove it home from high school, it made it home, but by then it was too late, 2nd death it lost all compression at 4k not even 20,000 miles after the rebuild, as of a year ago it was scrapped, I wasn't about to throw another 5k into it, but it's interesting to see what an engine with no bearings would do
You should have tried pouring your own bearings with something like solder or even proper Babbitt material but pouring them in place the old-school way very old-school melting aluminum and trying that might have been interesting also
This channel makes me want to import a Lada to the US.
Do this test while driving down a drag strip. That would be interesting to see.
try Copper wire wrapped around crank instead of the bearing
Apparently there’s a virtually endless supply of old Lada engines lying around where they are
Give the next engine a fighting chance, put 10 parallel oil pumps and filters on it to give the crank shaft a chance of maintaining some oil pressure!
It had pressure above 4k, this amount of play just kills the engine
@@davonmulder8458 It may have had 'pressure above 4k' but only because the journal bearing oil holes are too small to let that much flow through. I'm talking about trying to push enough oil through there to maintain an oil cushion between the rods and shaft despite the lack of bearing journals. Massive flow required, possibly too much for the crank's oil channel to handle.
I’m curious what this test would look like if the crank was machined for proper tolerances to the block and end caps
Next, how long will the car runs, without a engine
Im afraid to take my car to this garage for repairs. It might just come back with 3 extra engines, tires, or some weird Frankenstein thing. 🤣
Ball bearings down the spark plug wells wasn't enough, now it's out to see what a different kind of engine failure does. Ought to be something to see.