The Quote by Homer: "Any moment might be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we're doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again." speaks a thousand words
@@tiny_thor LMFAO. I know you aren't being a dick on purpose. Like I feel you are making a joke based in literalism and for grammar nerds it's comedy gold! Well done man. :)
I haven’t seen this movie in so long but watching it again yesterday. It reminded me that even though I’m in my 30s now I need to enjoy every moment. It resonates so much more now lol. Wierd how movies means something different as we age 😅
@Lion Of Judah We also know that Trojans, Greeks, and Romans were all likely early Aryans because there are genetic and cultural evidence supporting the theory. Cultures stretching from Europe to South East Asia all see use of swastika as a sacred symbol of peace, prosperity, and the earth. Many patterns of diffusion seem to have occurred as a result of the domestication of the horse by the early original Proto-Indo Europeans. All these cultures are extremely rich with mythology and great cultural similarities. Zeus in Greece (king of heavens who throws lightning), Jupiter in Roman religion (king of heavens who throws lightning), and Indra in Hinduism (also the king of heavens who throws lightning). Even in the name Zeus, Deus, Jupiter, Deus Pitr (Indra). This information is necessary to understand the connection as Hinduism was the world's first religion and it did not originate from a single prophet similar to Greek Mythology. They have been around for as long as people know. Scientists and historians can only speculate. Stories in these Aryan religions have detailed descriptions of locations which are thought to lead to places in the real world as many hidden treasures and cities have been discovered. Furthermore, detailed stories about giants and whatnot exist and giant humans actually used to exist in the 10,000 years we know nothing about history (evidence found in Russia (Dennisovan theories)). Point is these early religions seem to be based of truth and nature and if anything is correct, it is probably them.
@@maxcarlson2526 people's morality has changed and evolve over the course of history, people from those late centuries are probably savages like the vikings
@@ironlungslc4814 I realize that now. With the Covi-19 crsis going on, I came to terms that I'm gonna live my life to the fullest. I have enough time to plan ahead but this summer will be a game changer. Thanks man/mam I really appreciate it and stay safe ✌️
There’s a lot of truth to this. Life is precious because it ends, and those who have experienced death and know time on this Earth is short are usually the ones who don’t waste their time dwelling on the past.
One of the best lines in the movie. Right up there with when the kid at the beginning tells Achilles that the man he's fighting is the biggest man he's ever seen and he wouldn't want to fight him. Achilles response "and that's why no one will remember your name."
Yeah. And we don't know that kid's name, or what he's gonna do in the future. He's gonna die and we're not gonna know how or when, and that's it. Legacy gone, unless he had kids and grandkids to pass on his legacy that way But that bloodline's name isn't really known so, who's to say what they're up too.
The movie Troy is actually about what the ideal type of man should and shouldn't look like 1) The ideal man -> Achilles, Hector, Odysseus -> Strength, respect, honor, humility, loyalty, wisdom -> They fight and defend their ideals and goodness 2) Toxic man -> Agamemnon -> alcoholic, arrogant, takes women as slaves, wretched 3) Weak and pathetic man -> Paris -> Takes another man's wife, lets others fight for him, doesn't stand up for his own opinions, can't face anything
Lmao, like not.at.all. this movie is an adaptation of a story that existed 2000 years ago, dpnt try to slap your modern sociology on it. Also, the only reason you include brad pitt in perfect man is because this mf is gorgeous, but he is the baddie here. He have no ideal or goal outside of his own fame. He is a violent killer, short tempered, who take advantage of this women, only with more subtelety than his brethen. He is convinced that his idea are true and hers are shit and she submit to his charisma. In your mindset, achilles should be put in the narcissistic pervert box
@@vitkucera1116 Well, I don't think that Homer wrote this story to make a statement about various types of masculinity because I think that ancient greeks did not have the same standards than we do for mens. I clearly understand how you can make this analyse tho. But like, we don't really know about agamemenon relation to women. WE just know that he took achilles captive girl for himself and then gave it to it's men who tried to take advantage of her, but she was a war conquest, a slave, which was not something weird back then. Menelaus is closer to your analysis, but in the end, he was a strong men, powerful one but Helen did not love him, she was married by force like many women of this period and she did break her vow by cheating with another men. He was indeed a wreck who drink and party too much, and keep Helen as a trophy mostly. Paris is certainly portrayed as a weak men, but he is very young, he represent the passion of youth ones who do things without thinking ( like dueling Menelaus which almost got him dead and he did not bear the responsibility of his duel and ran to his older brother). He did stand up for his opinion, but could not keep up with the pressure and brought shame to his family. Even Priam would have probably prefer that his son die proud rather than live as a coward. But helen loves him, probablyu because she feel that he would never hurt her. Hector is clearly the ideal of the good man, what we call the "gentleman" but not only in his relationship, he is the good leader, the prince who is not king yet just because his father is still alive, but bear all the responsibilities of this title, as well as a loving husband and father. And this archetype of perfect men is destroyed by Achilles's pride
Hands down, this is one my favorite scenes in film. It comes to my soul when I need to recalibrate my perspective or my heart needs stirring. I haven’t watched this movie in years since my dvd went missing but this scene lives permanently in my heart.
@@nat0106951 There was no such thing as Netflix when I had that DVD dear, only Red Box lol. I don’t watch old movies on Netflix, my time is much more limited these days.
@@julzalta6466 Has Homer's legacy died? He lived close to 3000 years ago and his name and works are known and celebrated and inspire artists, writers, and directors to this day. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Herodotus, Eratosthenes, Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Einstein, Tesla, Marx, Descartes, Locke, Kant and so many countless other remarkable individuals that influenced and changed the course of human history. Has their legacy died?
what brad pitt said here is really True and touching. in fact, steve jobs said something similar to this, if you live everyday of your life as if it was your last moments of your life, you would be able to live life to the fullest
@@croat_crusader brad pitt is not a decent guy like achilles heel in real life which is why his wife divorce him and probably lost his right to see his children as well
Boy did they get the casting right in this film. And the writing. This scene, that speech. It just brings to the forefront the whole question of mythology and religion. I remember "The Iliad", and thinking my god, were the ancient peoples really this obsessed with religion? Was it that permeated in every moment of their waking lives? So obsessively you wonder how could they even function, if I trip Zeus must hold me in disfavor, ect.? When in actuality all you can go by are nebulous "signs." It's the perfect speech because Achilles welcomes the dawn of agnosticism, of pure Socratic reasoning: "The gods envy us." Next step, the "gods" don't exist, we made them up, to give us comfort on this lonely mortal's journey.
@Joel Sennerstrand The priests, who invented the gods, derived their power which enabled their very sustenance from fear and love. Flip a coin for either, which garentees the coins in the bowl, or the "victuals" left ostensibly for the gods. By comfort, we mean reasons for existence. Achilles the agnostic, spares with Briseas, the true believer. "Where's the sun god now?" "He's waiting for the right time to strike." You gotta give it up for Achilles, holding his ground before this beautiful creature. In real life any guy woulda been "oh yeah honey, tell you what, how about I build you a temple? You can be the high priestess."
@@mistermixleplick8690 I agree with you in thinking Brian is wrong in his words of Achilles being agnostic here, Achilles seems to revere the god of war in this scene. I believe the holy spirit is in us and we are godlike
God is a concept that is as old as humanity itself and that is because it is deeply engraved into our psyche. Everyone can experience this and all our ancestors really did was personifying existing emotions and psychological motifs. What do you think happens when one takes a powerful dose of psychedelics? The mind literally goes into this mode where its consciousness expands a thousands times faster than it would normally and you are left with the feeling that your perception as a human being is actually too miniscule and underdeveloped for us to say anything absolute about the existence of god or any other supernatural matter.
What I really like about "Troy" is how much is in the basket. There's romantic love-(though for some reason I feel it more from Achilles and Brisaes than Paris and Helen) familial love: Hector/Paris, Mendeleos/Agamemnon. War and violence, who's the greatest at arms, Achilles.?..You gotta give it up for Agamemnon, he was a good strategist. His two armies against your one. You submit, you get to keep your kingdom, just fight for big A when next he asks. Which he will. That's probably how he rolled up all the Greek city states: Sparta, Athens, Ithaca, . Agememnon is a proto-emperor. So there's big high stakes political/nationalist rivalry going on: Troy vs. Greek City States....."History remembers Kings and Commanders, not soldiers."...."Be careful king of kings, first you have to win the victory." But what's most ironic is "Troy" is a domestic fantasy. Achilles comes trudging back from a hard day at war to the deluxe tent by the shore. Here's two creatures matched in charisma, aBrisaes&Achilles; multi-leveled love story. But you want to keep watching them because you believe in them. It's the outside world that tears them apart. That and Paris's arrows. But can you imagine the juxtaposition, kicking ass by day and making sweet love with Brisaes at night?
at the end there she basically said she can’t forgive him for being a soldier because he just showed her he’s not just any meat head... in case you couldn’t tell.
Yeah dude watching this again I still love the scene but I can't help but think why aren't there more people seeing Briseis also said some deep stuff here particularly the "I could have forgiven a dumb brute" line. That's really relevant to anyone who's been done an injustice by someone who wasn't doing so by accident but who knew exactly what they were doing was wrong and did it anyway..
At the same time Achilles clowned her.. she said she pitys soldiers (aka dumb brutes) and he reminds her of the soldiers who died trying to protect her. He didnt want her pity, and he didnt want her forgiveness for not knowing any better. He wanted her to know that he wasnt just another cog in an army following orders and that he knew more important things about the gods that she had devoted her life in studying
"I'll tell you a secret something they don't teach you in your temple.... the gods envy us.... they envy because we're mortal. because any moment might be our last... everything's more beautiful because we are doomed... you will never be lovelier than you are now... we will never be here again.."
Each and every conversation made by Achilles is a conglomeration of truths which blend from every corner of the world. What a perfect dialogue delivery by my favorite man. Great.
The statement "you know romance one sided " speaks a lot. There is another part in life which is associates with struggle, pain, defeat, danger, etc. Everybody will connect to it if they understand life clearly
@@mergawinabi2842 Not sure if it's a compliment but I'll take it. Trust me, my spirit vexes everyone because I actually know things, think for myself and keep it real, no matter how terrifying or fucked up what comes out of my mouth sounds.
@@Raven7400 this has nothing to do with the way you see/understand things, the guy made a joke and you just ruined it, that's what vexed me not your perspective of seeing things
Man all this time I thought this quote was by Homer, so when I finished reading the Iliad and the Odyssey I was so confused because this quote never came up. Turns out it was from a movie lmao
You can divide up the universe into different forces and seek them out and they will come into your life. This is like appreciating the different organs in your body or the trillions of cells. There is one god and many gods at the same time. The body, the organs, the systems, the cells. You have a very one dimensional perspective on existence.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 wow Jesse your so much more woke than everone else. Please teach us messiah. Your pathetic attempt at philosophical one upmanship is classic and pointless. I think people like you just don't know when to accept what is true and when to stop thinking about it, always having to take it 'one level further'. I would wager you are really just a sad desperate person trying to acheive meaning in life by differentiating yourself from others by positioning yourself on a higher pedestal. If you think about it, thats really just your evolutionairy drive for survival via dominance manafesting itself in your thoughts and personal philosophy.
Also when or if you read this and invariably take personal offense to it, just realize that your taking of offense only proves my point further. Your feeling of offense is a defensive mechanism rooted in evolution which preserves your higher spot on the pedestal I explained earlier. Thats why I used provoking language in the first sentences of my first comment.
Is that Rose Byrne? These people were smart- making sure to get the good parts while they were young and make the ca-ching! Beautiful people have the advantage for sure.
Briseis just can't resist having this great Greek hero around her, she's deep down so grateful for the opportunity to be captured by one such as he.........
The ancient greeks had a very unique view of their gods. Although they were worshipped as extremely powerful they were not treated as morally or superior to us in any way except for their aforementioned power and immortality. Homer portrays a fight between the gods during the illiad as almost comical, because they cannot die, so too are their fights meaningless and without glory. But humans, since we risk everything all the time our acts have meaning. I will say though this portrayal of achilles is bad, achilles was deeply devout and would never blaspheme the Gods.
Aren't the Greek gods envious in general. I don't think I've ever heard a story about someone's life being fucked over without hearing God and jealousy in the same sentence. Edit: Apart from Hades I think
Anybody who wants to live forever on earth or in heaven, has not truly contemplated/ understood the ideas of Infinity & eternity. The Hinduism has an interesting philosophical approach to this. In Hindu mythology, many humans & daemons tried to earn immortality through various means. God took one form or another and struck them all down one way or another. Only one person called Ashwatthama was ever "cursed" with immortality because he killed a baby in a womb. One more person Bheeshma in the same Epic called Mahabharata, was given the power to decide the time of his death because he was considered to be very wise. He ended up living too long and badly regretting his decision to keep postponing his own death.
@@tylerbouck3555 you have no significant work in ur life. You have failed miserably in ur life. In order to bring some speck of relevancy in ur life, u preach ur brain dead story to unsuspecting and vulnerable minds. Gtfoh.
A thought provoking scene. One could argue that at this point in history as a species we're starting to believe a bit too much in ourselves. We're figuratively acting like gods on this planet, often feeling invincible and caring less and less about our fellow man. Perhaps we should travel back in time and ensure Achilles never speaks out these words, leaving people never the wiser. :)
I recently watched this movie again And i thought I gotta use these lines for a song The gods envy us because we're mortal So i did! Im still working on it...
Can I ever get a moment to myself? Each moment that passes is fleeting I try and I try to escape my own life At this point y'all should call me Houdini (Oddy, don't) It always ends up with me bleeding (Not again) Or so overwhelmed, I'm retreating (Not again) Back into the hole that I tried to climb out of (Not again) It always ends up self defeating (Not again) I'm addicted to sex, addicted to drugs Really whatever will make me feel loved I don't care what you think, yeah, I don't give a fuck I'm still out here shinin' as bright as the sun No matter how hard it gets, no matter how tough Don't disobey when I say, "Give me the gun" (Give me the gun) If I don't let my demons out to breathe I'll end up with some horns or pair of fuckin' wings Come and visit me from time to time (From time to time) To all the bitches I was ever with Yeah, you're still on my mind (Mind, mind)
Indeed they do. But we are immortal. Our energy will always be human and it cant be destroyed or manipulated. Fear them not, our mother and us shall prevail.
People say Hinduism and Greek religion were same because they both have multiple God's and there is a thunder welding King of gods in both of them who is a jerk. Indra and Zeus, but this is where problem comes, when Indra acts like a jerk he is punished multiple times for thousands and thousands of years and one time a Human was given his throne as punishment to teach him. But Zeus got no such retribution as no one is above him but in Hinduism there are actual God's who have to make sure that Dharma is maintained, there are multiple realities in Hinduism and in each there is a Indra there is only one Vishnu, Shiva and Shakti.
Then why was he allowed to keep the throne , he was a jerk right . If dharma was important ,he shud have been replaced . Greek and hindu gods have a lot of similarity tbh.
@@EloraSelah He was replaced, multiple times. Indra is not one guy, it works like a cycle. One time he was even replaced by a Human king. Indra is a name used by multiple heavenly beings who take the place of King of Devta's not god's. The similarity between Hindu and Greek gods is cosmetic, they are very different ideas. There are God's above God's (devta) in Hinduism. In Greek religion, Zeus is Supreme, Indra is not.
No. - And they didn`t made you. But call bringing to it may look so... You appeared because of stuff they appeared. It is connected to dreaming of life and more. And dreaming is never stopped. So it brings some tasks... Calling corresponding entities... It is natural life, and more, feature...😏 Ordinary birth is secondary and based on these laws thing. It can`t be otherwise.
The Christian God is unique in the sense that we're not just "Servants" and "Mortals" - But eventually we are destined to become Gods literal children. The bible states that God will be our Father and we will be ascended above the Angels in heaven. "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" - 1 Corinthians 6:3 KJV God wants us to behave like servants to teach us humility, Because our purpose in heaven is going to be far greater. It is said, that we will be Rulers and sit WITH God and Jesus Christ on the throne. God wants us to be his Children - A royal bloodline in heaven. That is the difference between Paganism and Christianity. Furthermore - Salvation is a free gift. You do not have to go to church, you do not have to do good deeds - All that you need to do, is truly believe in Jesus sacrifice for you and your heart will naturally change towards good. Finally; For those who have a problem with it - Hell is NOT eternal. Eternal Hell is a lie to make god look cruel. Even more; Hell is only as bad as a person deserves. It's a punishment for the evil people have done and that is it. Then the will be no more. People choose to be with God or not. "47 That servant who knows his master’s will but does not get ready or follow his instructions will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who unknowingly does things worthy of punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and from him who has been entrusted with much, even more will be demanded" Luke 12:47-48 KJV
The Quote by Homer: "Any moment might be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we're doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again." speaks a thousand words
No. It speaks 29 words. (if you count "we're" as two words, 28 otherwise.)
Oh please you know what he meant stop being a smartass
@@tiny_thor lol
@@tiny_thor LMFAO. I know you aren't being a dick on purpose. Like I feel you are making a joke based in literalism and for grammar nerds it's comedy gold! Well done man. :)
I haven’t seen this movie in so long but watching it again yesterday. It reminded me that even though I’m in my 30s now I need to enjoy every moment. It resonates so much more now lol. Wierd how movies means something different as we age 😅
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"Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun."
A. Watts
Idiotic quote, fuck off
Glass half empty
Meh, depends. Even non-believers do bad stuff all the time
"Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly."
G.K. Chesterton
Sure, brain tumors and famine are quite fun. "Just be happy"
Here on this clip after listening to the new $uicideboy$ EP loving all the songs and I can’t stop listening to them. G59 for life!!!
I heard it and I was wondering where I heard it from
@@Txguy264what song did suicide boys do that sampled this wtf? Lmao
@@iMoRpHz not even ghosts are this empty
You don’t have to believe in the gods, or a god, or even Achilles or the story of Troy, but we can all agree this scene speaks truth.
It does even certain lines from movies give you chills and make u think
@Chris Sparks
i don't believes on these gods/goddesses but i was really touch by what Achilles said here
@Lion Of Judah We also know that Trojans, Greeks, and Romans were all likely early Aryans because there are genetic and cultural evidence supporting the theory. Cultures stretching from Europe to South East Asia all see use of swastika as a sacred symbol of peace, prosperity, and the earth. Many patterns of diffusion seem to have occurred as a result of the domestication of the horse by the early original Proto-Indo Europeans. All these cultures are extremely rich with mythology and great cultural similarities. Zeus in Greece (king of heavens who throws lightning), Jupiter in Roman religion (king of heavens who throws lightning), and Indra in Hinduism (also the king of heavens who throws lightning). Even in the name Zeus, Deus, Jupiter, Deus Pitr (Indra).
This information is necessary to understand the connection as Hinduism was the world's first religion and it did not originate from a single prophet similar to Greek Mythology. They have been around for as long as people know. Scientists and historians can only speculate. Stories in these Aryan religions have detailed descriptions of locations which are thought to lead to places in the real world as many hidden treasures and cities have been discovered. Furthermore, detailed stories about giants and whatnot exist and giant humans actually used to exist in the 10,000 years we know nothing about history (evidence found in Russia (Dennisovan theories)).
Point is these early religions seem to be based of truth and nature and if anything is correct, it is probably them.
These would also probably explain early unexplainable events such as pyramids and Stonehenge.
@@maxcarlson2526 people's morality has changed and evolve over the course of history, people from those late centuries are probably savages like the vikings
“Life is short, so make sure you spend as much of it as possible arguing with Internet strangers.”
A lesson i take to heart
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Way to go already
I live my life by this.
Excellent movie
I wish I did
@@dyteriaswinson8370 it's not to late friend
@@ironlungslc4814 I realize that now. With the Covi-19 crsis going on, I came to terms that I'm gonna live my life to the fullest. I have enough time to plan ahead but this summer will be a game changer. Thanks man/mam I really appreciate it and stay safe ✌️
@@dyteriaswinson8370 good to hear all the best friend👊✌
There’s a lot of truth to this. Life is precious because it ends, and those who have experienced death and know time on this Earth is short are usually the ones who don’t waste their time dwelling on the past.
Achilles having his Tyler Durden alter-ego come out
Achilles is what Tyler Durden wanted to be all along.
Anyone that’s watching this is a good person and my friend
Max Campbell you’re a nitty little bitch!
Whatever we are, we will never be here again
Hey friend
Wasup buddy?!?
Everything's more beautiful...
You will never be lovelier than you are now ...
We will never be here again
One of the best lines in the movie. Right up there with when the kid at the beginning tells Achilles that the man he's fighting is the biggest man he's ever seen and he wouldn't want to fight him. Achilles response "and that's why no one will remember your name."
Well written my friend
Yeah. And we don't know that kid's name, or what he's gonna do in the future. He's gonna die and we're not gonna know how or when, and that's it. Legacy gone, unless he had kids and grandkids to pass on his legacy that way
But that bloodline's name isn't really known so, who's to say what they're up too.
@@thalmoragent9344ven the kid’s acting career hit a wall after starring in ‘cheaper by the dozen’ with Steve Martin
This is an outstanding movie. I loved every second of it.
what’s the movie?
@@ryansbuggin Troy
I definitely prefer the Director’s Cut of this movie
The movie Troy is actually about what the ideal type of man should and shouldn't look like
1) The ideal man -> Achilles, Hector, Odysseus -> Strength, respect, honor, humility, loyalty, wisdom -> They fight and defend their ideals and goodness
2) Toxic man -> Agamemnon -> alcoholic, arrogant, takes women as slaves, wretched
3) Weak and pathetic man -> Paris -> Takes another man's wife, lets others fight for him, doesn't stand up for his own opinions, can't face anything
Lmao, like not.at.all. this movie is an adaptation of a story that existed 2000 years ago, dpnt try to slap your modern sociology on it.
Also, the only reason you include brad pitt in perfect man is because this mf is gorgeous, but he is the baddie here. He have no ideal or goal outside of his own fame. He is a violent killer, short tempered, who take advantage of this women, only with more subtelety than his brethen. He is convinced that his idea are true and hers are shit and she submit to his charisma.
In your mindset, achilles should be put in the narcissistic pervert box
@@menalgharbwalsharq648 ok maybe i wasnt right on 100%....maybe your comment is better but don't you agree with other things?
@@vitkucera1116 Well, I don't think that Homer wrote this story to make a statement about various types of masculinity because I think that ancient greeks did not have the same standards than we do for mens. I clearly understand how you can make this analyse tho.
But like, we don't really know about agamemenon relation to women. WE just know that he took achilles captive girl for himself and then gave it to it's men who tried to take advantage of her, but she was a war conquest, a slave, which was not something weird back then.
Menelaus is closer to your analysis, but in the end, he was a strong men, powerful one but Helen did not love him, she was married by force like many women of this period and she did break her vow by cheating with another men. He was indeed a wreck who drink and party too much, and keep Helen as a trophy mostly.
Paris is certainly portrayed as a weak men, but he is very young, he represent the passion of youth ones who do things without thinking ( like dueling Menelaus which almost got him dead and he did not bear the responsibility of his duel and ran to his older brother). He did stand up for his opinion, but could not keep up with the pressure and brought shame to his family. Even Priam would have probably prefer that his son die proud rather than live as a coward. But helen loves him, probablyu because she feel that he would never hurt her.
Hector is clearly the ideal of the good man, what we call the "gentleman" but not only in his relationship, he is the good leader, the prince who is not king yet just because his father is still alive, but bear all the responsibilities of this title, as well as a loving husband and father. And this archetype of perfect men is destroyed by Achilles's pride
What about Priam? Wise loving father has to be an ideal type.
@@killajive1 more of a religiously blinded fool who would rather trust priests and gods in war than Hector's advice.
Rose Byrne was excellent here. Her conversations with Brad Pitt were the highlight of the movie
"trojan soldiers died trying to protect you" a slap on the face
Hands down, this is one my favorite scenes in film. It comes to my soul when I need to recalibrate my perspective or my heart needs stirring. I haven’t watched this movie in years since my dvd went missing but this scene lives permanently in my heart.
dvd huh. its always on netflix. and I always play it the background. This movie is just too awesome 😅
@@nat0106951 There was no such thing as Netflix when I had that DVD dear, only Red Box lol. I don’t watch old movies on Netflix, my time is much more limited these days.
Well said, Definitely a favorite scene of mine as well. Words to live by always
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Never thought about it until I saw this. But the quote still sticks with me to this day.
Not Even Ghosts Are This Empty ☕
Greatest line in the movie
After Priam's line on his sone Hector.
I like how this scene sums up the entire movie's theme. Legacy endures, far beyond buildings, flesh, or wealth.
Thats not what he meant.
Legacy isn't you. You die sooner, legacy dies too, just later.
@@julzalta6466 Yea I think its a pretty dumb idea too.
Yep. That's the Iliad's message and that was also the Ancient Greek soldiers' belief as well. It really is remarkable, heroic and inspiring.
@@julzalta6466 Has Homer's legacy died? He lived close to 3000 years ago and his name and works are known and celebrated and inspire artists, writers, and directors to this day. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Herodotus, Eratosthenes, Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Einstein, Tesla, Marx, Descartes, Locke, Kant and so many countless other remarkable individuals that influenced and changed the course of human history. Has their legacy died?
Easily the best scene in this action packed film. Rose looked so good in this film.
what brad pitt said here is really True and touching. in fact, steve jobs said something similar to this, if you live everyday of your life as if it was your last moments of your life, you would be able to live life to the fullest
and then you become cocain and sex addict 😄😄😄
@@croat_crusader brad pitt is not a decent guy like achilles heel in real life which is why his wife divorce him and probably lost his right to see his children as well
@Dan Opyd so, what should we call him?
@@zackrider3708 Pikachu
Good luck doing it without money and looks
A speech my platoon sergeant told us the first day of AIT. Will never forget that man
i guess its appropriate, hated in when i was there but a fond memory now
My platoon sergeant just told me to hurry up and grab my shit and get in line. He was also screaming when he said this.
@@thelostcosmonaut5555 noone thinks ur hardcore
Black Prior well I’m glad I’m not the only who doesn’t think I’m hardcore.
@@thelostcosmonaut5555 i thinks you is funny
How is this movie so underrated??? That’s literally my favorite quote of all time
A fan of the Greek Poet Homer? He wrote that about 2700 years ago :) Probably sounds even better in Ancient Greek
@@lyingcat9022 that line was never written in the Iliad. This was concocted by a Hollywood scriptwriter.
$uicideboy boy$
Boy did they get the casting right in this film. And the writing. This scene, that speech. It just brings to the forefront the whole question of mythology and religion. I remember "The Iliad", and thinking my god, were the ancient peoples really this obsessed with religion? Was it that permeated in every moment of their waking lives? So obsessively you wonder how could they even function, if I trip Zeus must hold me in disfavor, ect.? When in actuality all you can go by are nebulous "signs." It's the perfect speech because Achilles welcomes the dawn of agnosticism, of pure Socratic reasoning: "The gods envy us." Next step, the "gods" don't exist, we made them up, to give us comfort on this lonely mortal's journey.
@Joel Sennerstrand The priests, who invented the gods, derived their power which enabled their very sustenance from fear and love. Flip a coin for either, which garentees the coins in the bowl, or the "victuals" left ostensibly for the gods. By comfort, we mean reasons for existence. Achilles the agnostic, spares with Briseas, the true believer. "Where's the sun god now?" "He's waiting for the right time to strike." You gotta give it up for Achilles, holding his ground before this beautiful creature. In real life any guy woulda been "oh yeah honey, tell you what, how about I build you a temple? You can be the high priestess."
Interesting take, but ultimately obscenely wrong
@@mistermixleplick8690 I agree with you in thinking Brian is wrong in his words of Achilles being agnostic here, Achilles seems to revere the god of war in this scene. I believe the holy spirit is in us and we are godlike
God is a concept that is as old as humanity itself and that is because it is deeply engraved into our psyche. Everyone can experience this and all our ancestors really did was personifying existing emotions and psychological motifs. What do you think happens when one takes a powerful dose of psychedelics? The mind literally goes into this mode where its consciousness expands a thousands times faster than it would normally and you are left with the feeling that your perception as a human being is actually too miniscule and underdeveloped for us to say anything absolute about the existence of god or any other supernatural matter.
What I really like about "Troy" is how much is in the basket. There's romantic love-(though for some reason I feel it more from Achilles and Brisaes than Paris and Helen) familial love: Hector/Paris, Mendeleos/Agamemnon. War and violence, who's the greatest at arms, Achilles.?..You gotta give it up for Agamemnon, he was a good strategist. His two armies against your one. You submit, you get to keep your kingdom, just fight for big A when next he asks. Which he will. That's probably how he rolled up all the Greek city states: Sparta, Athens, Ithaca, . Agememnon is a proto-emperor. So there's big high stakes political/nationalist rivalry going on: Troy vs. Greek City States....."History remembers Kings and Commanders, not soldiers."...."Be careful king of kings, first you have to win the victory." But what's most ironic is "Troy" is a domestic fantasy. Achilles comes trudging back from a hard day at war to the deluxe tent by the shore. Here's two creatures matched in charisma, aBrisaes&Achilles; multi-leveled love story. But you want to keep watching them because you believe in them. It's the outside world that tears them apart. That and Paris's arrows. But can you imagine the juxtaposition, kicking ass by day and making sweet love with Brisaes at night?
My father died yesterday and i remembered these words...
A women in a bar once said to me. You won’t be handsome like this forever. So just enjoy it!! She was right, I’m a fat bastard with kids now! 😂😂
LOL
at the end there she basically said she can’t forgive him for being a soldier because he just showed her he’s not just any meat head... in case you couldn’t tell.
ahaha TRUUUUE LULW
Yeah dude watching this again I still love the scene but I can't help but think why aren't there more people seeing Briseis also said some deep stuff here particularly the "I could have forgiven a dumb brute" line. That's really relevant to anyone who's been done an injustice by someone who wasn't doing so by accident but who knew exactly what they were doing was wrong and did it anyway..
At the same time Achilles clowned her.. she said she pitys soldiers (aka dumb brutes) and he reminds her of the soldiers who died trying to protect her. He didnt want her pity, and he didnt want her forgiveness for not knowing any better. He wanted her to know that he wasnt just another cog in an army following orders and that he knew more important things about the gods that she had devoted her life in studying
Brad was 41 here? Damn! He looked so young in the face.😍
botox
Good genes
"I'll tell you a secret something they don't teach you in your temple....
the gods envy us....
they envy because we're mortal.
because any moment might be our last...
everything's more beautiful because we are doomed...
you will never be lovelier than you are now...
we will never be here again.."
Each and every conversation made by Achilles is a conglomeration of truths which blend from every corner of the world.
What a perfect dialogue delivery by my favorite man.
Great.
The statement "you know romance one sided " speaks a lot.
There is another part in life which is associates with struggle, pain, defeat, danger, etc.
Everybody will connect to it if they understand life clearly
Its called a crush because love hurts.
Achilles: God envy us speech
Anyone in 2020: Factssss
It's actually THE gods not A god
Correction anyone that is a fool
"We will never be here, again." Interpretation: "I'm using my charm to talk you into cranking with me."
❤ this movie. Anyone whom does not Value time Can not Value life.
$uicideboy$
Ofc the gods would envy you if you looked like that...
Of course some idiots had to miss the point.
@@Raven7400 ofcourse someone who is fun at parties would show up
@@mergawinabi2842 Not sure if it's a compliment but I'll take it.
Trust me, my spirit vexes everyone because I actually know things, think for myself and keep it real, no matter how terrifying or fucked up what comes out of my mouth sounds.
@@Raven7400 this has nothing to do with the way you see/understand things, the guy made a joke and you just ruined it, that's what vexed me not your perspective of seeing things
@@mergawinabi2842 Yeah. There's shit wrong with me.
Trai hy lạp chưa từng mê gái...rất quý và tôn trọng khi nhìn phụ nữ...
When I smile then whole creation crys on u guys.
A vida já demonstrou que cada um de nós devemos seguir em frente... uma coisa que não volta é o tempo e palavras ditas...
"Why did you choose this life?"
This is the very question I ask myself always.
Man all this time I thought this quote was by Homer, so when I finished reading the Iliad and the Odyssey I was so confused because this quote never came up. Turns out it was from a movie lmao
Back when Brad Pitt was the sexiest man on earth
Was?
Still is
Danny devito has always been the sexiest
Will always be
Cillian Murphy is sexier.
you did good slick
there is only one god and that is you me and everything in the universe experiencing itself !
You can divide up the universe into different forces and seek them out and they will come into your life. This is like appreciating the different organs in your body or the trillions of cells. There is one god and many gods at the same time. The body, the organs, the systems, the cells. You have a very one dimensional perspective on existence.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 wow Jesse your so much more woke than everone else. Please teach us messiah. Your pathetic attempt at philosophical one upmanship is classic and pointless. I think people like you just don't know when to accept what is true and when to stop thinking about it, always having to take it 'one level further'. I would wager you are really just a sad desperate person trying to acheive meaning in life by differentiating yourself from others by positioning yourself on a higher pedestal.
If you think about it, thats really just your evolutionairy drive for survival via dominance manafesting itself in your thoughts and personal philosophy.
Also when or if you read this and invariably take personal offense to it, just realize that your taking of offense only proves my point further. Your feeling of offense is a defensive mechanism rooted in evolution which preserves your higher spot on the pedestal I explained earlier. Thats why I used provoking language in the first sentences of my first comment.
See how this game of one upmanship can go on forever?
there are no gods. you're not a god. you're just a deluded narcissist
Is that Rose Byrne? These people were smart- making sure to get the good parts while they were young and make the ca-ching! Beautiful people have the advantage for sure.
Briseis just can't resist having this great Greek hero around her, she's deep down so grateful for the opportunity to be captured by one such as he.........
This is my favorite movie of all time and this scene is but one of many reasons why.
1:33 The ultimate truth has been spoken
What a sample
Every introvert should live by this saying...
What's that supposed to mean?
they should live by that saying just as much as extroverts :D
Idk if the gods will envy an introvert's life
Lo sé. Se qué fuiste tú. Gracias lo estoy disfrutando créeme.♥️👹👹👹🤝👍🤗
Be with a man who challenges your perspective in life
People serve God 🙏 an omnipotent being that has no idea what it's like to fight a war that you might lose
The english subtitles on this makes me seriously consider the stoned aped theory...
Sucidé boys bright me here
The ancient greeks had a very unique view of their gods. Although they were worshipped as extremely powerful they were not treated as morally or superior to us in any way except for their aforementioned power and immortality. Homer portrays a fight between the gods during the illiad as almost comical, because they cannot die, so too are their fights meaningless and without glory. But humans, since we risk everything all the time our acts have meaning.
I will say though this portrayal of achilles is bad, achilles was deeply devout and would never blaspheme the Gods.
Compared to what.
“Great warrior”
Bliss. Baby.
Let me do the hard work.
Aren't the Greek gods envious in general. I don't think I've ever heard a story about someone's life being fucked over without hearing God and jealousy in the same sentence.
Edit: Apart from Hades I think
*1:18** Why did Suicideboys put this on their song Not Even Ghosts Are This Empty*
Cuz it’s a spirit
how can we be wretched things & the g*ds envy at the same time i ask Achilles ? or should i go straight to the source.. Homer?
Anybody who wants to live forever on earth or in heaven, has not truly contemplated/ understood the ideas of Infinity & eternity.
The Hinduism has an interesting philosophical approach to this. In Hindu mythology, many humans & daemons tried to earn immortality through various means. God took one form or another and struck them all down one way or another. Only one person called Ashwatthama was ever "cursed" with immortality because he killed a baby in a womb.
One more person Bheeshma in the same Epic called Mahabharata, was given the power to decide the time of his death because he was considered to be very wise. He ended up living too long and badly regretting his decision to keep postponing his own death.
Why else do you think the Devil hates us so. We are created in the image of the Lord Almighty. The living God! Yahweh.
Shut up..
@@jasonmyer3615 ask yourself why you are so upset that you'd talk me down and be rude to a person you do not know
Shut up troll..
@@jasonmyer3615 your in my comment section? That makes you a scoffer and a troll.
@@tylerbouck3555 you have no significant work in ur life. You have failed miserably in ur life. In order to bring some speck of relevancy in ur life, u preach ur brain dead story to unsuspecting and vulnerable minds. Gtfoh.
The Power of Now
A thought provoking scene. One could argue that at this point in history as a species we're starting to believe a bit too much in ourselves. We're figuratively acting like gods on this planet, often feeling invincible and caring less and less about our fellow man. Perhaps we should travel back in time and ensure Achilles never speaks out these words, leaving people never the wiser. :)
Hey, I have a dish towel like the one she's holding. I wouldn't let her bleed on my good dish towels.
I recently watched this movie again
And i thought
I gotta use these lines for a song
The gods envy us because we're mortal
So i did!
Im still working on it...
Any moment it can be last.
i love these words
masterpiece
That's going in the play book!👈
This film has to in indian film industry.they r learning art.
1:35
No homo but my god that’s a beautiful man
Can I ever get a moment to myself?
Each moment that passes is fleeting
I try and I try to escape my own life
At this point y'all should call me Houdini (Oddy, don't)
It always ends up with me bleeding (Not again)
Or so overwhelmed, I'm retreating (Not again)
Back into the hole that I tried to climb out of (Not again)
It always ends up self defeating (Not again)
I'm addicted to sex, addicted to drugs
Really whatever will make me feel loved
I don't care what you think, yeah, I don't give a fuck
I'm still out here shinin' as bright as the sun
No matter how hard it gets, no matter how tough
Don't disobey when I say, "Give me the gun" (Give me the gun)
If I don't let my demons out to breathe
I'll end up with some horns or pair of fuckin' wings
Come and visit me from time to time (From time to time)
To all the bitches I was ever with
Yeah, you're still on my mind (Mind, mind)
We see what we want to see.
Loved this scene...
Weird. I pity us.
❤❤❤
I don’t like Brad Pitt as an Hollywood Actor!
Why? He looks Arrogant for me!
I like Keanu Reeves he’s kind & simple & Humbled Hollywood Actor!
Indeed they do. But we are immortal. Our energy will always be human and it cant be destroyed or manipulated. Fear them not, our mother and us shall prevail.
НОС ГРЕХ✋🏿🤘🏿👍🏿✋🏿
People say Hinduism and Greek religion were same because they both have multiple God's and there is a thunder welding King of gods in both of them who is a jerk. Indra and Zeus, but this is where problem comes, when Indra acts like a jerk he is punished multiple times for thousands and thousands of years and one time a Human was given his throne as punishment to teach him. But Zeus got no such retribution as no one is above him but in Hinduism there are actual God's who have to make sure that Dharma is maintained, there are multiple realities in Hinduism and in each there is a Indra there is only one Vishnu, Shiva and Shakti.
Then why was he allowed to keep the throne , he was a jerk right . If dharma was important ,he shud have been replaced .
Greek and hindu gods have a lot of similarity tbh.
@@EloraSelah He was replaced, multiple times.
Indra is not one guy, it works like a cycle. One time he was even replaced by a Human king.
Indra is a name used by multiple heavenly beings who take the place of King of Devta's not god's.
The similarity between Hindu and Greek gods is cosmetic, they are very different ideas.
There are God's above God's (devta) in Hinduism. In Greek religion, Zeus is Supreme, Indra is not.
I pity them as I pity myself!
.....just read "Song of Achilles"....great read.....!!!
You see this Quentin? This is what happens when you let Brad actually ACT!
Huh? He was brilliant as Cliff Booth?
There is only one God and he doesnt know what envy is
you dont have to capitalize gods, only really when you are talking about the God
Let me tell you a secret something they don’t teach you in your temple😎
Envy
No.
- And they didn`t made you. But call bringing to it may look so...
You appeared because of stuff they appeared. It is connected to dreaming of life and more.
And dreaming is never stopped. So it brings some tasks... Calling corresponding entities... It is natural life, and more, feature...😏
Ordinary birth is secondary and based on these laws thing. It can`t be otherwise.
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I knew it was "you will never be lovlier than you are now"
TH-cam keep tryna correct me
Trojan soldiers died trying to protect you.
Perhaps they deserve more than your pity.
It’s a good film but why is Achilles straight. Missed opportunity.
Cycle k-9)
I was born this way
Omg the undertext is so random imao
There is only one god. And what do we say to that god?
Not today!
@@ktowniecity7269 Indeed.
The Christian God is unique in the sense that we're not just "Servants" and "Mortals" - But eventually we are destined to become Gods literal children. The bible states that God will be our Father and we will be ascended above the Angels in heaven.
"Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?" - 1 Corinthians 6:3 KJV
God wants us to behave like servants to teach us humility, Because our purpose in heaven is going to be far greater. It is said, that we will be Rulers and sit WITH God and Jesus Christ on the throne.
God wants us to be his Children - A royal bloodline in heaven. That is the difference between Paganism and Christianity.
Furthermore - Salvation is a free gift. You do not have to go to church, you do not have to do good deeds - All that you need to do, is truly believe in Jesus sacrifice for you and your heart will naturally change towards good.
Finally; For those who have a problem with it - Hell is NOT eternal. Eternal Hell is a lie to make god look cruel. Even more; Hell is only as bad as a person deserves. It's a punishment for the evil people have done and that is it. Then the will be no more. People choose to be with God or not.
"47 That servant who knows his master’s will but does not get ready or follow his instructions will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who unknowingly does things worthy of punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and from him who has been entrusted with much, even more will be demanded" Luke 12:47-48 KJV
Not today
Razor V anyone?
iam
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