They Finally Did it - Dave Ramsey Responds To Me
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Here are their videos incase you're curious for context.
Ken's Vid(I don't shave)- th-cam.com/video/R76PLbR1FJk/w-d-xo.html
Dave an Ken's Vid (Inflation is explained)- th-cam.com/video/hxJZL_iVbcc/w-d-xo.html
We have to ask ourselves if we should be selfish and bring children to this world entering the Greatest Depression and hyperinflation as this Everything debt bubble burst and workers sill be reduced to Neo-Feudal slave/serfs. Marriage and children will not be advisable for the next 10-15 years as food prices increase more than the 300% it already has in the last 4 years.
@@SingleCHIDLESSHappyMovementyou are right, first the bubble burst in Japan and demographics collapsed as younger people knew they could offer children a good life as they would have no time with them while they work 3 jobs but still not able to afford a decent life. Then it was South Korea/China and then Eirope and now the rest of the Western world including America.
I can't believe you don't shave...
I subscribed to you man, what happened?
@JoshuaFluke1 I am a early Gen X. Right behind the Boomers like Ramsey and with the Mill's and GenZ/s behind me. I know how bad things have gotten since the 1980's and how the dynamics with employers and employees has changed for the worse where as Ramsey is still stuck back in a 1980's time warp. In the past three decades some younger people were blessed by the corporate overlords where most of us where thrown out with the trash. Everyone I know now that is successful is independent and has their own businesses. Plumbers, HVAC, Consultants, etc. My advice to younger people. Get valuable skills and start a business. In the crypto, Bitcoin world. Decentralization of Government and Defi, Decentralization of Finance is a key theme. I think 'Decentralization of Business' independent small businesses, will be a solution for most people. Smaller leaner and meaner companies can very successful.
Dude what is your response to those serious allegations? How are we supposed to take anything you say seriously if you don't shave? Nobody is perfect, if it is true, just make a heartfelt apology video and we can let it slide. Otherwise maybe make a video to provide proof of shaving so that your honor might be restaured. 🤣🤣🤣
You are really getting under their skin Joshua, Keep debunking their nonsense
Next they will "DEBUNK" that getting married and having children will increase your expenses 50-100 fold over a lifetime versus being single (oh wait being single is way cheaper, too bad for the debunkers). They will also "DEBUNK" that with more resulting costs you are a better slave worker (oh wait too bad for the debunkers but it is true with family costs go up exponentially). They will "PROVE" that getting married and having kids is very cheap and won't result in you being a good little puppy to your company to meet your constant bills and expensive health insurance for the family. Dont condemn innocent children to this slave routine by having them in the next 25-50 years.
So True bro. They argue about Statistics that prove them wrong🤣🤣
Keep it going! These weasels are getting destroyed.
im in my 50s and i'd take Joshs info over D (as in douchebag) Ramsey any day.
@Gizziiusa bro thank you. It's just cause Josh is based in reality. It's that simple. Dave thinks its still the 70-90s.
Josh, this revelation that you supposedly don't shave changes everything.
We, your audience, can no longer take you seriously. But you had a good run.
Lost all credibility when it was revealed that Josh doesn't shave. Such a shame...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m done for 😢🎉the day
This episode sponsored by Henson Shaving.
@JoshuaFluke1 you have alot of hate against religion to be attacking...
Not to be ageist, but I'm quite a bit older than Josh. After 20+ of corporate bullshit, I can confirm that most of Josh's advice is solid.
Same here!
I'm right around Josh's age, and can confirm from here. I've been mass layoff'ed by a big tech company, squeezed for the last drop and frog marched out by a Big 4, and petty politicked to a bologna at-will termination mere days before my benefits would begin to vest.
Life's too short and important to waste.
Agree❤
of course it is, this Wailon Smithers is just a bootlicker that makes propaganda of his boss.
Absolutely, same here!!!
I have been in IT for 30 years. I am now an IT manager for a fortune 500 company. I can tell you everything Josh says is 100 percent legit! I make more money working from home than I did working in an office in a corporate CULT. All these CEO's and Dave Ramsey lovers try to convince employees they are "lucky" they even have their job and they are easily replaceable. Its basically "Sit down, put up with our shit or else...." Listen to Luke as he knows way more about "reality" than these CEO's and Dave Ramsey lovers. What's amazing is at their age they still believe their bullshit and a younger guy is schooling them and calling them out on their crap! Great job Luke!
Just to clarify, his name is Fluke (last name; first name is Josh).
When they can't discredit the argument, so they attack you personally 😂😂😂
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Classical ad-hominem.
Lol typical old heads 😂😂 they mad we finally figured out the economy is rigged against us 😂😂
@@prodyung829 it is beyond rigged. There's no point in playing the game. Genuinely.
Americans just attack people personally whether they can discredit the argument or not.
I’ve never heard of Dave Ramsey. But I worked for many years and can confirm what Josh says is legit.
Never expected to see you here 😀
I thought David Ramsey was like that idiot 1980s / 1990s bad financial advice dude that Boomers went all in on...I have no idea who this guy is.
the bigger question is should the delhi scam call centers steal more to keep up with the inflation?
I was like "are you capping?" at first. But I checked out your channel - totally believe you. You're living a fuller life than Ken's miserable self could ever imagine.
Ramsey's advice is often outdated and nothing anyone should pay for. The idea of the snowball debt or avalanche debt methods are not complicated and insanely simple. His other information is largely based on old information. he's also a shitty employer who fires people because they're gay, got pregnant out of wedlock, or were married to someone that criticized his reaction to covid because he's a soft bitch.
Corporatism is real, both Ken and Dave Ramsey proved that
Corporatracy
Honestly, I think its bc dave runs things old school.
Some people are just trash....born trash, live trash and think trashy. Ken Coleman is trash, hence why the USA is turning to trash.
I see these types at work all day long, and they are still useless because they do as little as possible in their positions.
Dont let them fool you that they are hard working or team players, they hate people.
@@rockstar-kp2jy
My husband is a metrologist and he has switched jobs 8 times in the 17 years we’ve been married. If they make him work on the road for weeks at a time or pay him less than what he’s worth or he’s miserable then he just moves on. I’ve supported him every single time because life is too short and only once has a company turned him down because of that
Unfortunately, that's what you have to do these days. Working conditions rarely improve if you stay.
Bless you lady. Stick by your man. Employers are insanely bad in the modern era
aren't almost all meteorologists homosexuals?
@@dungeonmaster6292 I’m assuming you have no idea what a metrologist is, or you’re just a troll either way
@@Magdalena287 lol i just straight up misread your message. I'm sure this isn't the 1st time that's happened. Now i have to google for more material to mock. EDIT: nothing really wrong with him being a metrologist but i imagine you guys still don't have children, which is sad if true.
The fact that their come back contains personal attacks on your looks shows how much they suck.
Ad homenien attacks are a sign of a weak man
@@SenorPenor1337You're a weak man!
wait. dang it.
I’m sure if you responded in kind, they’d have a very rational, reasoned response that would in no way involve clutching at pearls on their fainting couches at how uncouth milord/milady was being, oh the humanity.
Josh does personal attacks, all the time, it's the internet, get over it.
@@SenorPenor1337 Ad homenien without subsistence. A well timed insult with a logical fact statement hits harder.
Ken is on record believing that inflation goes up but then drops back to "normal" when inflation decreases. He doesn't understand that inflation is accumulative.
Ken knows full damn well it doesn't, he doesn't care he wants people poor so they have to buy hisnproduct
Yeah that really was the smoking gun. You wouldn’t be “taking it away” unless there was deflation.
Exactly its like compound interest.
And this is all from a supposed personal finance brand... The ignorance is unbelievable
Still waiting for the cost of living to normalize LOL.
Prices go up, they never come down, in any meaningful way
I am 56 and have a university degree in economics. I can testify that Joshua does know what he is talking about. Whether he shaves is non of my business. 😊
Calling you young and unexperienced makes you the winner by default. He run out of arguments so he started the personal attacks.
I'm 65, a metallurgist by trade, and I work in industrial sales. I have to deal with guys like Coleman and Ramsey all the time.
I'm glad the younger folks call this foolishness out.
The only thing I like about Ramsey and folk
Is getting out of debt and saving money
Great comment ❤
Oh! A fellow metallurgist in the wild!
Honestly. This is insane that ANYONE of any age is arguing cost of living increases for inflation…. ESPECIALLY someone who is older. What the hell?????
Yup these pompous boomers are disconnected to the average worker. They are so ignorant.
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers."
Better wise up, Ken.
Slander is a tool Americans use whether the debate is lost or not.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508what country are you from?
Is that one that pays you 50 cents per comment every time you try to insult others?
Nope. Only America does that.@@garyhomanick6129
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508That’s because they know the debate is lost before it really is.
@@garyhomanick6129Why are you taking it personal?
In an age where unlimited information is easily accessible, the companies aren’t able to manipulate their workers nearly as easily. Huge W for you
They want to convince you being subservient to them is good for you. Disgusting.
There are two things Ken won't stand for. The first is age discrimination. The second is those damn young people. Josh is way more trustworthy than either of these clowns.
Through pounds of make up ken's sweat is showing. 🤡
"There are 2 things I will not tolerate. 1) People intolerant of other cultures and 2) the Dutch" - Nigel Powers
@@Vercusgames Its not financial advice, it's more like just opinion geared towards his audience. Which of course whatever problem you have then Ramsey Solutions has the product, service, or sponsor that will help solve your problem.
@@Vercusgames Sorry, I have taken the approach that anything heard or seen on social media should not be taken as serious advice, but rather an opinion with an underlying basis.
The fact is that Josh is an American, which means he is just as much of a clown. There are exactly zero trustworthy Americans.
Ken is the epitome of a higher up (not a CEO, but at most a supervisor) that would gaslight their subordinate to stay in the company but would jump ship immediately if there's another "Hot Ticket" somewhere else.
Evil 101: Accuse the righteous of your own sin.
"You can't go for that hot ticket because it's mine!"
Ken is the epitome of someone who enjoys being a cuck.
He's just preaching so his underlings don't jump ship otherwise he might have to start paying them more.
Lol yep. Had a manager like that and has made me less loyal.
Job hopping is a term used by employers who see someone who knows their worth and not afraid to leave for something better.
then why would I hire you?
@@dungeonmaster6292 You hire because you need a service done.
You get to chose who you hire or not hire & ppl get to chose who they'd like to provide they're services to, or not to.
Not to sound like a boot licker, but isn't Ken right about eventually running out of places to hop (in your area?)
Exactly, I guess they’re scared to lose their employees…so full of pride
I mean in favor of hopping 😅 u would hire me because I challenge you to not be complacent about your business. 😊
I stayed at the same company for 7 years and had 8 managers and was going nowhere on the internal carrier ladder or in terms of compensation and was forced to go to the office. I hopped jobs two times and I doubled my salary and is now working 100% remote. Ken seems to own a couple of businesses himself and probably don't want his employees to find out their real value.
"You work for the company, they sign our paycheck."
Literally translates to:
"You are a slave, stop talking and do your job or die from famine because i am making the decisions here and whatever i decide i am always right even when actually, i am not."
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What would his paycheck be for if all his employees leave next Monday and he found himself with empty offices?
@@vendeurpro Exactly
@@vendeurpro i think most of DR's employees are extended family members. they'd have no place to go for thanksgiving/christmas if they did that.
"they sign our paycheck"
well. allow me to retort.
"ten dollar an hour pay, gets ten dollar an hour work."
Dave ramsey: if you can't afford, you need to get a better job
Also 'dave': if your job can't make it affordable, don't get a better job
Dave wants you to HAVE to get a second job to humiliate you.
Dave is so ignorant to the average American struggle
Reminds me of "you will own nothing and you will be happy".
@nicky4114 They all are. These corporate CEOs have so much money and everything is so automated for them that they don't know the cost of anything to the average person. And they don't care to know either because they can get what they want.
I say "Ok, Dave are you offering said 'better' job". 😂😂 Old Boomer who got lucky when homes were cheap and taking risk wouldn't wipe you out for good.
working in an office always felt like high school. i don't want to make friends. i want to do my work and leave, thats our agreement. but no. if you don't try and make friends with the boss (popular kids) you never move up and then even if you do you still are replaced by one of their 'better' friends. its dumb. being in my home office is so less stressful at least i don't have to deal with anyone. society evolves...and this is where it is going.
Yes indeed! As someone in my early 40s, I think I’ve seen it all. The “office” indeed served its purpose …. When I was in my 20s. That’s quite a long time ago. Now technology & creativity is the way to go.
These dinosaurs 🦕 will surely experience extinction real soon.
I love how being competent at your job, or even TALENTED at your job aren’t part of what makes you promotable. We know, we’ve all worked at that company that promotes the incompetent guy they’d like to hang out with over the ones that actually carrying the department on their back.
Right? Or if you kiss the bosses butt so much then maybe you’ll be promoted. I have seen the worst people get the respect and the quiet ones get nothing usually 😂
Yes! Love the irony of Ramsey and Ken constantly talking about how you have to work hard to be promoted, but then themselves indirectly admitting with that list that it's the kiss-ups who get promoted and not those who work hardest 😂
The only thing worse is the people who justify this happening it boils my blood
@@idontcare9797there’s actually a TH-cam from an HR “professional” who “explains” why people who are good at what they do and actually do real tangible and measureable work are considered the lowest on the totem pole. The name for them is “implementers”. This twisted illogic is how overpaid and even worthless middle managers and HR suck ups justify their salaries
They're the prime example of why no one wants to go to the office. Shame, Guilt, and Insults.
The very definition of a toxic work environment
They can do all that in con calls
@@vitaminprotein6430 Yes, but you don't have to smell them, so not as bad lol.
@@davestorm6718 if supervisor smells good and easy on the eyes then one can tolerate insults shame and guilt.
@@vitaminprotein6430 I say a supervisor easy on the eyes can only go so far before someone just walks away cause they just tried of all the insult coming towards one own self. I say have enough respect to learn when it's time to walk away and find someone who will treat ya better.
I am 60 and have been preaching to the masses for about 35 years. You go Josh you are right on track
Right behind you in my 50's. I want to see younger people break from the system and become independent.
@@cryptowolf-zf3fsI'm 65, and I'm with you guys too. I'm glad to see young people calling out this foolishness from Ramsey's crew.
Hell I am only almost 40 and I agree with you guys.
Glad to hear this guys. Just crossing the 40s line in the sand myself.
It never EVER crossed my mind to think about Joshua’s age, at all… the content, the corporate cringe stories, the traveling, the personal family situations, the masterful critiques, etc
Freaking disgusted by the age attack dismissal by that “I love how my voice sound” Ken guy.
Thanks Josh. As a GenXer competing with the massive boomer gen, we had to put up with this shit for 30 years because we didn't have much of a choice.
Your gen is getting the sense that the labor market has changed and now capital doesn't have the power over labor that had; and you're right.
Early millenial here, been upset with the boomers ruining it for everyone by staying with low wages and the boot-lickers of all ages for years now.
I've always hated the "likeability index" in the work place.
The people who are social butterflies are well liked but typical don't do half the work of their less "liked" peers who are quiet and just get stuff done.
Dave Ramsey and his orbiters are everything that's wrong with older people on the internet.
Arrr dun blame older ppl just because of idiots like him
They are angry because they are losing power over their workers. Did you hear about Ramseys lawsuit with a former employee over religious discrimination? These ass clowns are control freaks
I agree on that. I can't believe they are so close-minded and say you gotta be open minded
@@spencersedano
I can believe it.
I absolutely can believe it.
Just smile and wait, boys. Smile and wait.
I am 70 and I listen to Josh. I am very impressed by his intellect, and concise and on point delivery skills.
But he’s not old enough to shave 🤔
100 percent. He is on point.
And here I thought I was the oldest fan here! A mere child at age 65.
He's American. That alone indicates he has no intellect.
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BEING likable, couchable, adaptable and honorable are NOT qualities that are appreciated and supported by most employers - narcisssitic bullies are the ones that move up the corporate ladder anyone who has been in the job markt for more than five years can figure that one out.
it's crazy that companies don't adequately reward loyalty, but that's how they are. thank you for your work Joshua , your advice is more valuable than gold in this greedy world.
Some do. Just not most of them.
This Ramsey guy sounds like that guy that typed his login password wrong 10 times and won’t admit it.
Or he'll just blame people under him after he locked himself out. Dave screams insecurity.
That is 100% a dad thing
As a 39 year old electrician who worked for over 10 years as a foreman I agree with almost 100% of what you say. At times I was told to treat my employees as if they were not human with lives outside the workplace. It wasn’t a one time thing, it was over and over. Every time we exceeded expectations that became the new expectation. There is ZERO benefit to workers in general to go above and beyond. Bad employers will take more and more from you and not care about your physical or mental health. They care about how much they can wring out of you not fair compensation. Good managers and owners are few and far between.
Been saying that since i was 18. At 36 never changed my mind. i have no motivation to be a foreman because all my enthusiasm and charisma were sucked dry by my 3rd year as a journeyman😂🤣🤡🌍
I have 10 years of experience and this channel is 100% on point
I've been seeing this trend transpire over the decades! The managers who were sensible, treated their employees like people (and isolated them from corporate BS the best they could) and questioned things would get let go and replaced by someone who was more willing to be a yes-man to the managers above them and say yes to things that don't make any sense (because they don't have the experience or knowledge to question it).
Congrats Josh! Happy to see your continuing success. Ramsey & co are about to learn how they used the Streisand effect to drive more traffic/subscribers to your channel. 🎉
I'm only an intern at a software company, and I'm feeling the stress of someone who's worked in the industry for a decade
Feel ya
Doubt.
Another Dave Ramsey Crew L take. Imagine using age as a qualification for anything, exactly why people use the term “Boomer” nowadays
What a badge of honor. Dave Ramsey is such a tool.
Yep, the biggest tool.
LOL, let's not insult tools. They actually do work.
My favorite part is him citing his right to religious liberty when asked why he was evicting people during the pandemic 😂
Right? He sounds like every out of touch boss that says “Employees should do more than what they are paid!”. Imagine if a business sold their goods for less than what they were wort? Good way to go under, with that business model!
@@Ichabod_Jerichothat part 😂😂😂 he was trying to rationalize everything 🤣🤣
The "do you have likeability" thing: code for "are you submissive of your needs to the company"
Nice josh, you have actually a good take on deflation. that's very rare. It's funny that a young person with some reading and an open mind can actually understand and appreciate history, while old people will think they know better. Keep it up and don't let these old dinosaurs get to you.
the desperation is palpable. Looks like you finally got under their skin. Good job Joshua
No doubt they’re losing staff due to people who agree with Josh. They’re breaking out of the dead end job plantation and it’s pissing them off.
I love the implication that Josh is out-of-touch because of his age, but Dave and Ken aren't even though they live in an insulated bubble disconnected from anyone who's trying to make it inside an average life-arc.
When these guys grew up in the 70's, life had a lot less drama and employment could pay for a basic lifestyle. They're stuck in the mindset that $12 an hour is already generous because they were making $2.75 back in 1977 as if the time in between is some how irrelevant. They are the ones out of touch.
@ColonelHoganStalag13 I got that way once. I worked very hard for $7.25/hr in numerous manual jobs, only to see Buc-ee's paying triple that a few years later.
I decided that I used to be underpaid, and went on with life.
Many years ago, I was told by someone who wasn't my boss, but the head of another department, that if you want to get promoted, you have to leave the company and get re-hired.
Reminds me of a lawyer saying something about “everyone is working to make partner, but almost everyone doesn’t”.
Ken is the type of guy that you should stay away from in life. He is radiating with negative energy and misery loves company.
There's a word for that. "American".
This is how "christians" are. You should avoid all of them.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508there's a word for you too, "prejudiced".
The funny thing is that Ken is saying for people to "grow up" while sounding like a little crybaby. Workers are demanding to be treated like actual adults to work from home and not have a bunch of meetings that could be phone calls... and demanding fair compensation for ALL of their time (like maybe say... THEIR COMMUTES)
This guy is in for a rude awakening... his personal stockholm syndrome isn't going to be enough to convince anyone who wants decent wages in this economy to be a sucker anymore... Ramsey's ideas of work ethic in this kind of totally unbalanced economy are looking more and more farcicle.
It's ironic that he's only 16 years older... but he sounds way less experienced - looking at his LinkedIN it seems to SCREAM that he has NOT really worked a lot of real jobs... Did he come from a wealthy family? His career path seems super sus.
But if people actually paid you while taking your commute into consideration, the only people who would be making money would be the gas company..........hmmmm. Also just looking out for you but the word you used is spelled "farcical". I know it rhymes with popsicle but it's not spelled that way. And I'm glad you looked up his career path with LinkedIN. I feel like LinkedIN should be a dating app for homeless people.
> the dude calls himself "coach"
> hasn't worked a real job in his life
Why does that still surprise anybody?
There is no substitute for in-person collaboration. It's more important with some jobs over others. And judging a person based on their LINKEDIN profile, on this channel where linkedin is mocked as a joke is especially ironic.
@@user-zv8md9xv8clol if that’s Ken, you should probably have better things to do than acting as “butthurt spellcheck” for the internet.
A commute is time given to a company… if the company doesn’t want to pay for it, they should get comfortable with remote workers, because employees asking for what they should be getting compensated for is a trend not a fad. It’s called “the free market” and that means it’s a negotiation with two sides and the leverage has been changing hands - I know I haven’t had a commute since 2012 and it’s pretty great. Been teaching companies how to do remote work for years and the pandemic is one of the greatest things to ever happen for that. Hope you hung on every word there, I might have missed a comma…
Most communication at my job is done through teams or email.
Unless you work in the same office it is just emails. But when there's an issue that comes up it is sent in an email so everyone can know how to proceed.
Josh, you're not the hero we deserve but the hero we need.
My job literally has zero more inline promotions for my position. It took me just 2 years to reach a senior level, but now, the only way to get a significant raise is to enter management. That's how the company ends up with bad managers because people still want raises whether they actually want to lead people or not.
Yup, that's a huge issue with corporate ladders. They should be paying the people who are best at their job more for doing that job they're good at. Instead, they make you move to a position you may or may not even be good at if you want more money.
Yes to this!! I don't want to switch to a management path. I like tech and software development and my skills continue to grow and encompass more. But there's always a ceiling on the technical path and the next step is to start the management path and not touch the technology any more. I think it's more of an issue with large companies with set in stone structures that deal with titles and the pay range has to match the title.
So, does that mean that Ken also thinks that companies shouldnt raise prices to match inflation hitting their bottom line?
I guess Ken is saying that Dave shouldnt ask for higher rent as inflation hits, either.
No, that sword doesn't cut both ways!
Nah. They’ll raise everything except pay (because they have bills to pay!) & blame the guberment. And tell u it’s ur fault for not voting correctly👎
Josh, I am twice your age and retired from IT, your presentations have mirrored so much of my work experience and you really do understand the modern corporate cube farm or open space environment. I was LMAO at the attack on your age in part because I thought that would be this ass clowns first go to. Keep up the good work and you bring back a lot of old memories that I have not thought about for many years, mostly bad. My favorite was the I worked x hours this week. I had this fellow who would every week moan "I worked 80 hours this week, 100 hours this week, etc." I just ignored him and laughed to myself.
If it was paid overtime, that many hours would be great. But, if not, nope 👎
We are well on our way to being Duracells powering the matrix unless you unplug and stand up.
About time, Josh! I have been waiting for this day with you! Congrats man! Keep on doing you, your videos have helped people understand office politics, and we thank you for that!
Good job Josh! Keep up the great work buddy. You are spot on! I’m an older Gen Xer and I think you’ve got it right.
Ken is the lapdog of Dave Ramsey. I dont have my remote engineering job because I'm likable but because I'm good at my job and my company needs me. My like-ability has nothing to do with anything as long as I'm professional. Its just business not a friendship. Great video, Josh!! Keep it up!!
I really hate when companies say, "we are a family here."
Sir, I would like a job, not an adoption.
Yeah some people who are amazing at their jobs are not likable people. Not every human is likable. Besides likability is subjective anyway. Your coworkers could love you and your boss for no reason could utterly hate you.
so you just disagreed with Flukey. He said you don't work for a company but rather you hold a job for your own financial status, but you "would like a job, not an adoption". You people are so blind to this dude's foolishness and desire to be different that you don't even understand what you just said backs the other side's argument LMFAO@@kristyrivers3470
@@DB-rp2gjdon’t complain then when you find out “likeability” matters more than competency in the real world. I agree it shouldn’t be like that but that’s ultimately how it is and prob always will be 🤷🏽♂️
Exactly. Likeability and doing your job well will make you much more money than being super good at your job and being an a-hole. In fact, not being likeable is likely to get you replaced pretty quickly at the first possible opportunity. Sad but it's how it is.
Ken acts like companies are doing us a favor. They sign our paychecks because they need our labor. It should be a mutually-beneficial relationship.
Exactly, their mindset is so wrong off bat that I don't even know how his business has lasted so long
Good back and forth. I think you guys are both right. Being likeable has to do with self awareness. Most people aren’t likeable because they aren’t self aware.
It's really a shame that loyalty isn't rewarded anymore. The company is going to protect its self-interest and so the employees should do the same.
In my entire professional career when i had to go into the office, almost ALL my bosses worked from HOME (with all their offices bought and paid for by the company) and came into the office when it was "necessary" for them (usually once a month). But the employees who do the actual work? Nope.
So now I turn the tables. If the company doesn't trust me to do the work they hired me for (and do it from home - I'm a software engineer and there is zero reason to do that work from the office), then I don't work for that company.
I left the last one due to a RTO policy, and i got a fully remote job offer within three weeks of putting my resume out there. Solidarity and power to the workers!
Is your company looking for executive assistants?
Ken forgot about that concept of a FREE MARKET real quick. Shaming people for daring to always find a better who will pay them more for their skills. Exposed himself. Red flag if people want to control you in this way.
He has one good point, people who hire would prefer to always have to rehire for position but you know what. Too bad, who cares, it is not the employee’s problem. Unless you can be competitive to match and retain good talent, no one owes you an arbitrary amount of time to be a stagnant employee there.
I'm in the restaurant business, our best employees always strive to leave I don't blame them.
Ah yes career experience. Let's see their career experience. Dave Ramsey's parents were realtors, he's been a realtor since 18, earned his first million in his mid 20s. Has he ever actually worked for someone else like most people do? Ken suddenly materialized in the world as a broke 30 year old and took a 6 week broadcasting class, then bounced from gig to gig until he met Dave.
These are clearly the career histories of people that stick around loyally working for one company for the long run.
To be fair, Dave has been very loyal to his own company for many years now. 😅
Thats wild. You did make it Josh...im very proud of the work you have done so far
"Likeability" slayed me. Dude, I'm there to do a job in exchange for money. I'm not there for you to like me.
bro says being a player (job hopping) is bad, while also saying you need to play the game of office politics. make it make sense.
I mean my motto still is don't be a jerk to people
This is a tangible example of why there are gaps and disconnects between generations. What worked for this guy in his era is no longer relevant today and is flat our survivor bias. His comments that you don't have life experience and attacking your appearance is dismissive of the greater issue. "The assets you have to grow your income is to be likable, coach-able, reliable, adaptable.. you'll just keep on climbing!" What absolute bulls***.
Thats 50 years ago it dosent apply to today
Yup. It's ridiculous that Ken criticizes Josh for a "lack of experience", when Ken himself likely hasn't worked an actual job in years, and has zero first-hand knowledge of the employment experience today. Sorry, shilling for Dave Ramsey isn't an actual job, IMO.
So true bro. This guy is so out of touch 🤣🤣
ive read enough comments to know that if you are a str8 WM (and especially so if you are a str8 SWM) good luck climbing the ladder.
just 2 days ago i read some WM fella in IT was supposed to "train" some female in his job. she was a clueless nitwit, but he sensed that there was more to it b/c upper mgmt was talking and behaving in such a way that he strongly sensed that she wouldnt be his replacement, but rather be promoted over him sometime in future. He got smart and bailed. got a better job elsewhere leaving them hanging.
Amen, years back companies valued good employees and did what they needed to do to keep them. Now, companies could care less about employees.
I don't think Dave understands that in computer or Consultant jobs that experience is the most important thing to have, and you can't get tons of experience for the most part just doing the same thing at the same company year after year. I'm over 50 and can tell you the folks that make the most money have the most experience and it has nothing to do with how many job changes you make. You know the job you get the job. ageism has to do with not getting hired because of your age .... guys a complete tool. I love this channel joshua is spot on.
I’m currently the coo of a company I helped start. One of my best and first employees has been shopping around for a new position. While we’ve been competitive with his earnings he may have found a position that suits him better. We don’t believe in hate, and we pay above market for all positions. Thank you for this work. I’ll never forget the position I was in as an employee. And we will always treat ppl with respect and dignity.
You and your company are rarities. Good work!!!
If anyone tells you that your life experience doesn't count because your young, tell them their experience doesn't matter anymore, because both them and their experiences are outdated.
Jesus died at age 33. Do these guys think He was too young to spread a message?
@@thebiggestpanda1Apparently in those days, a man’s word carried no weight unless he was 30+ years old.
Yeah I've never understood why it's best to be wrong for 50+ years.
I love how “I don’t want to use ageism” segways directly into “you’re to young to understand this” when Josh is literally 30 and has had a career. Sure, he hasn’t worked decades upon decades, but they’re acting like he’s a clueless intern who doesn’t know anything.
To boomers if you aren't on your deathbed your to young to understand
@@calebbarnhouse496or if you aren’t pooping in your pants, you’re too young to understand.
yep, notice they didnt bother to mention even an age range (in his early 30s'). just some silly "not old enough to shave" malarkey.
I'm constantly working on improving my own skills. Earning certifications, getting degrees. Not all companies are willing to pay for that growth while I'm still there. But those achievements do look good on my resume and to everyone else that's willing to compensate for them
i liked your job posting review videos...hope to see more of that
Dave "But muh bootstraps" Ramsey.
I lol’d.
I´m supposed to be convinced by Ramsey? and then what, keep aspirations for mediocrity and getting screwed over, that´s stupid.
Keep up the good work Josh
Congrats! You know you made it. Keep it up Josh
Keep going Josh. You are really doing good work. I don’t know you but I believe most workers can resonate with this
Lmao he just jumped to personal insults and gave no points at all, comedy gold, stay strong Joshua!
His logic is so crazy though. Don't job hop because you're not getting appreciated for the work you do, instead continue to stay and you'll definitely be appreciated soon™!
missed the point entirely bud
@@scottbeliech3947Just like your mom missed the pill.
Lol right? 😂 I used to job hop all the time was always being taken advantage of at least at my new job I’m sorta being appreciated and I like the job so I’ll stay for once
I love your little TM detail!!! Very true!!
This guy and Dave on the show have called people like myself lazy despite the fact that I work full time and have always done that. Before he accuses someone else of not having experience, he needs to go work on a drilling rig and fill his own tank. Instead of riding Dave's coat tails and talking behind a mic. Keep up the good work Josh 👍
There is no loyalty in business. Every employee should do what's in his or her own best interest!
4:38 I'm 52 years old and Josh is talking to me too. I can't stand privileged old men who can't understand what most people go through.
I'm almost 60, and I love your show and message Josh. I've been job hopping since 2009, and it's increased my salary considerably. This guy is gaslighting.
Plus, I've been remote since the mid 2000s, and I'd have to be mighty desperate to go back in the office.
Since 2001!? Teach us your waaaaaaaays❤
Keep operating in your respective craft Josh, you’ve been a big help for me as I navigated a five month job search and dealing with corporate foolishness through all of it as a Public Relations graduate.
Despite low hours in retail, I’m freelance writing for two local publications which is a stepping stone for my career path. Keep up the great work🙏🏾 they don’t speak for the entirety of us younger generations
If you're not willing to take chances you will not move ahead. The only reason I stayed at my job is my time off and now it seems like I can't take time off unless I call in sick. There is no reason to stay if a job can't match your pay and benefits with something else out there.
Hey Josh, I just wanted to let you know that I watched that video you made years ago and it actually helped me to recognize the gaslighting that was being done to me at my current place of work at the time. I started watching more of your videos and was ultimately able to land a position at a better company that paid way more (your interview tips also helped a lot).
I just wanted to say thank you and let you know that what you do here is really important and it makes a difference.
good on you, bud. i hope it all works out for ya. its comments like yours that let me know "the pulse" of whats going on out there. Josh is a good dude.
The sheer arrogance and hubris of these people! The disconnect and self-importance of their outdated ideology is just astounding. When has insulting a person ever help to refute their argument?
Insulting a person is what Americans do every time they talk to somebody.
its clownworld.
We need people like you Josh calling out this stuff.
Josh Fluke just shedding light of the utter, absolute shame and bs that is hid under the rug.
Keep doing what you're doing man. Keep exposing these brats
Ken is the real corporate privilege and it’s shameful
In the army there was a part of the pay, that was tied to cost of living and inflation, the private sector could very easily copy that.
In fairness the army is funded through taxes.
Nice set up Josh! I remember watching your videos years ago and you’ve gone a long way! 👏
Joshua you are amazing keep up the good work
These guys think that just because they write you a cheque every month, they have a right to shape and "correct" every aspect of your life whilst never looking at their own considerable list of faults. Your frustration with these people is palpable... You're doing great work here exposing them.
I worked at a place like that, but called them on their BS all the time and refused to participate in their "reindeer games", rather do work (and who wants to waste their personal time on unpaid company activities, which are more like ass-kissing contests and contribute nothing to the bottom line, nor company morale?). Then you have Ramsey's butchered "Christian" "morality code". Sure, you can ask people to sign docs and so-forth, but, unless you're a religious organization (church, monastery, etc), what difference does it make (outside of the obvious shit like "don't steal from the company and don't kill your coworkers")?
I have a better idea. Let's ban these bullies from management and ownership for life and put an honest human being in charge.
As much as I like fascism, it's much more effective to watch their companies burn as they lose employees and can't make anything to sell for a profit.
Put ‘em on an ice float, set them adrift!
Company : You can't do that that's illegal because we're not democratic country.
The thing is, that most honest people in charge don't want to be in charge I'd say, because they have a hard time keeping up with malicious idiots, who run companies like it's a field and the employees are slaves.
And one doesn't get rich by paying proper salaries, but by draining others of their workforce and pocketing the money they earned. That's why whenever I see rich people the first question that comes to my mind is: how many others have they screwed over to afford all that.
@@igordasunddas3377yes, and a lot of the time they don't even know people were screwed over. It is all hidden. None of those upper management people or the shareholders or anything know what happened to me or the many others. Although the upper management probably does know, just not the specifics.
Keep doing what you're doing, Josh 💛🙏🏼
I love how the people who talk about 'entitled' employees don't hold a regular job.
Joshua, please continue doing what you do. Never stop while you have the heart to stand up for all of us. You are the voice of voices when others are silenced. You are a thorn in their corporate cushioning as sses. Them aknowledging you as bad advice, talking 'from above' at you, makes you all the stronger. And you don't need us to tell you that man. You are the only TH-camr I instantly watch when new content is published. My clients are also greateful to you as much as I am for sharing personal quintessence and experience. I help people pass interviews who speak English as a second language. Thank you for your hard work. Your advice is formidable and always relevant. Please don't stop offending these bloodsuckers.
Dave helped us get our or debt. We even called his radio show for help over a decade ago. He’s changed so much, my husband and I where taken aback at how out of touch he and his new side kick are.
They give solid financial advice that I wish everyone would listen to, but their vision of career is way too conservative, it's as if they still live in the 20th century and want everyone to do the same.
@@AbrahamZilbersteinWhat advice? He says nothing that isn't common sense.
Agreed, their views around employment are archaic.
@@Digger-NickThe majority of Americans must lack "common sense" then
Dave is race against time. If the field changes linearly, then over time if Dave does not update himself, he becomes irrelevant in this advice. It's simply that he lacks field logistics and information necessary for a better evaluation. It will become more apparent as time goes by. Either the environment resembles its preceeding or he updates to maintain relevancy.
I took Joshua's advice, and I'm 50 yrs old. I have experience and skills that companies need, and I deserve good pay. I got a new job 3 weeks ago at a different hospital, giving me a $13 raise. NO JOKE!!
Have been watching your progress since 2020. Gratulations!
Another great Video Josh !
Seems like anyone who doesn't play the way they (ken and dave) want them to play, they just insult them. Calling Josh too young, calling remote workers fat and lazy. You get the picture.
How immature
Finally after all this time, Ken responds. Very odd choice that the "mature" individual in this situation is bring inflammatory. Well done, it shows that your message is getting across.
I did not think I would see your parents in a video. Hope your relationship is a little better with everything that's happened