Thank you for this video....youre one of the only ones ive found to show me all the stuff i need to take off to prepare me to get to the timing chain itself...i found plenty to show me how to put timing chains in...whitch is what is easy compared to all the work that it tskes to get to that part of the job....everybody else does it up on the bench...which is probly easy...well find out i guess...thanks again bro...
Nice video thanks! Always easier when you can see it done first. Lots of good videos on changing the chains, but nice to see the real part of the job…. Getting to them
@@richierock1300 so I found that bank 1 timing chain had a broken chain guide bolt and chain was sloppy. I managed to weld a nut to the broke off bolt and extract it. I also found bad cam phaser. My problem now is when I go to put the cam holder tool on the 2 flat spots on the cams are 180 off from each other. Can I just spin them into position?
You can try turning them as long as the valves don’t hit the pistons make sure spark plugs are out so when you turn the crank bit doesn’t have compression to fool you on hard to turn crank , make sure wrench stays on bolt when turn cam try turning both ways to see if they go where they need to be kinda hard to say it’s not in front of me
You can stick a thin screw driver down the spark plug holes and turn the crank clockwise or counter clockwise to make sure all 3 cylinders are not close to the top try to have the 3 cylinders down at least a inch from the top _ _ _ not -_-
Fantastic video!! Very helpful!! I used this video multiple times during my timing chain install on the exact same vehicle. I do have a question though. After the install, I have codes P0016 and P0017 and was wondering if you have any ideas on why these codes are popping up? I used the Cloyes kit that included the VVT sprockets and solenoids. I did this job on my Traverse because it had the rattle upon start up. Rattle is now gone but I have these codes now. Is this normal and will go away after it's driven awhile? Thx for any help!!
@@user-md1ef4xx1r you covered all your bases with all new parts it’s easy to get one off just because of the way that behind mark is, never back off it will jump and you won’t even realize it
So forgive this if it’s dumb. But I’m just a back yard(home mechanic) and don’t have a lift. The video is of great help, but my question is can this be done with jack stands or ramps?
Question: the codes on my Traverse read P0008, P0009, and P0017. I've already replaced the crankshaft position sensor, but the check engine light is still on... there's no noice or rattling or anything even I turn on the engine... any thoughts on what it could be?
Over 130,000 miles most likely chain stretched or gear stuck advanced if had both cam sensors with crank possibly crankshaft ring slipping but sounds like chain and gears could change oil and add the red bottle oil additive oil changes are critical on this engine if it isn’t changed every 3000 then here we are unfortunately
@@richierock1300 yes, it has over 130k miles it's at about 178k... only the crankshaft position sensor was replaced. Had an oil change on it the day before crankshaft position sensor was replaced. The camshaft sensor should I get that replaced or does it sound Like I need a new timing chain? Again there's no noise when I start it up
Most likely there’s a problem internally take to reputable shop and to have it diagnosed then you can decide what you would like to do, these sensor usually do not go bad 90% internal
Hello, just wondering how long did vehicle last when timing chains complete...I have same issue but getting advised to trade in vehicle because the transmission will go next...what would u recommend?
I have one in front of me now. I'm pretty sure it jumped time. When I give gas to cause the whole bank to misfire. I also hear it rattle, when I let off. Are these interference engines?
If it has over 100,000 miles on it most likely and it you purchased used or new and they didn’t change oil every 3000 miles it could have a lot carbon built up on the inside of the engine also lack of good maintenance causes chains to stretch prematurely. Yours you said rattling good possibility the phazers are stuck advanced so it should chains and guides and tensioners and the 4 phazers also get me the codes please
@@richierock1300 omg, fast reply! We are a wholesale lot. My boss likes to buy wrecks and rebuild and sell them. I would be his mechanic. ... That being said. It's rare that we get a well maintained car! Anyway. I'm sure the noise is the chain hitting the housing as it slacks, cause it's only when I let off the gas. Codes p0008, p0017, p0018, and of course a p0420 in there. (Pulled from memory, could be wrong on 17 and 18. But I had two accompanying 0008, referencing the same bank. ...There's many more, but unrelated. Pretty sure, that's telling me, that one bank, slipped time. And the noise says, stretched chain. ... That a new cam sensor isn't going to do it, here. The real question. I didn't get most my experience at a Chevy dealer. Twas Honda for me. I've never done timing, on this specific engine. All the videos show an engine removed. ... Is that necessary? I have some work to be done on my floor, before I drop something that heavy, to the center of my floor. And if I can do it, in the car, I'd like to just get moving on it.
My back is killing me shoulda watch yours first do not I repeat do not remove driver side bolts it was a pain to get it back up everything fell to the floor I’ve done an 02 Monte Carlo and it didn’t fal to the floor it rolled right out this one did smh
After watching this video I have opted to pay a mechanic to do this job, You have the patience of a Saint. Good job.
I am praying my 2010 Traverse with 200 K keeps running fine. Your amazing.
Super helpful video. Thank you for getting to the point and not talking about your neighbors dog for 20 minutes.
You know I can change belts, brakes, roaters, calipers, oil... idk about this one 😂. But it does look like it will keep me entertained for a whole day
Thank you for this video....youre one of the only ones ive found to show me all the stuff i need to take off to prepare me to get to the timing chain itself...i found plenty to show me how to put timing chains in...whitch is what is easy compared to all the work that it tskes to get to that part of the job....everybody else does it up on the bench...which is probly easy...well find out i guess...thanks again bro...
Welcome
Nice video thanks! Always easier when you can see it done first. Lots of good videos on changing the chains, but nice to see the real part of the job…. Getting to them
I agree...just commented on that same point.
Awesome video brother. I'm about to start this project on the same vehicle
Make sure when doing the chain you do not turn the crank the opposite direction chain skip a tooth for sure
Plus make sure it has good oil pressure
@@richierock1300 so I found that bank 1 timing chain had a broken chain guide bolt and chain was sloppy. I managed to weld a nut to the broke off bolt and extract it. I also found bad cam phaser. My problem now is when I go to put the cam holder tool on the 2 flat spots on the cams are 180 off from each other. Can I just spin them into position?
You can try turning them as long as the valves don’t hit the pistons make sure spark plugs are out so when you turn the crank bit doesn’t have compression to fool you on hard to turn crank , make sure wrench stays on bolt when turn cam try turning both ways to see if they go where they need to be kinda hard to say it’s not in front of me
You can stick a thin screw driver down the spark plug holes and turn the crank clockwise or counter clockwise to make sure all 3 cylinders are not close to the top try to have the 3 cylinders down at least a inch from the top _ _ _ not -_-
Fantastic video!! Very helpful!! I used this video multiple times during my timing chain install on the exact same vehicle. I do have a question though. After the install, I have codes P0016 and P0017 and was wondering if you have any ideas on why these codes are popping up? I used the Cloyes kit that included the VVT sprockets and solenoids. I did this job on my Traverse because it had the rattle upon start up. Rattle is now gone but I have these codes now. Is this normal and will go away after it's driven awhile? Thx for any help!!
Pretty sure off a tooth bank 1
@@richierock1300
Thank you for the reply. Can you think of a way to verify this before I go through the work of tearing it all back apart?
@@user-md1ef4xx1r you covered all your bases with all new parts it’s easy to get one off just because of the way that behind mark is, never back off it will jump and you won’t even realize it
@@richierock1300
I think that is exactly what happened.
Make sure you have good oil pressure my last one I did had low oil pressure and gave me codes motor time
So forgive this if it’s dumb. But I’m just a back yard(home mechanic) and don’t have a lift. The video is of great help, but my question is can this be done with jack stands or ramps?
Yes with a step ladder and patient’s and make sure you don’t turn it counter clockwise when putting chains on
It might jump
Step ladder and take your time and make sure don’t turn counter clockwise when installing chains it might jump and you won’t realize till too late
Replace the gears on the camshafts cause they stick
Thank you so much for the help
Do these engines still need changed every 3,000 if using synthetic when the garage says change every 5,000?
Old ones yes the newer ones they programmed so their not so sensitive
@@richierock1300 mine is 2017
Question: the codes on my Traverse read P0008, P0009, and P0017. I've already replaced the crankshaft position sensor, but the check engine light is still on... there's no noice or rattling or anything even I turn on the engine... any thoughts on what it could be?
Over 130,000 miles most likely chain stretched or gear stuck advanced if had both cam sensors with crank possibly crankshaft ring slipping but sounds like chain and gears could change oil and add the red bottle oil additive oil changes are critical on this engine if it isn’t changed every 3000 then here we are unfortunately
@@richierock1300 yes, it has over 130k miles it's at about 178k... only the crankshaft position sensor was replaced. Had an oil change on it the day before crankshaft position sensor was replaced.
The camshaft sensor should I get that replaced or does it sound Like I need a new timing chain?
Again there's no noise when I start it up
Most likely there’s a problem internally take to reputable shop and to have it diagnosed then you can decide what you would like to do, these sensor usually do not go bad 90% internal
@@richierock1300 thank you for your quick replys
Technically, aren't you supposed to drop the cradle/engine out the bottom 🤔
Can if you want too some people don’t have that option
@@Steve0885 why would you think that
Hello, just wondering how long did vehicle last when timing chains complete...I have same issue but getting advised to trade in vehicle because the transmission will go next...what would u recommend?
Sell it not worth it 50% of them the engine goes bad looses oil pressure
Would it last like another year or so... or less than that?
Thank you for the quick response!
I have one in front of me now. I'm pretty sure it jumped time. When I give gas to cause the whole bank to misfire. I also hear it rattle, when I let off.
Are these interference engines?
If it has over 100,000 miles on it most likely and it you purchased used or new and they didn’t change oil every 3000 miles it could have a lot carbon built up on the inside of the engine also lack of good maintenance causes chains to stretch prematurely. Yours you said rattling good possibility the phazers are stuck advanced so it should chains and guides and tensioners and the 4 phazers also get me the codes please
@@richierock1300 omg, fast reply!
We are a wholesale lot. My boss likes to buy wrecks and rebuild and sell them.
I would be his mechanic.
... That being said. It's rare that we get a well maintained car!
Anyway.
I'm sure the noise is the chain hitting the housing as it slacks, cause it's only when I let off the gas.
Codes p0008, p0017, p0018, and of course a p0420 in there. (Pulled from memory, could be wrong on 17 and 18. But I had two accompanying 0008, referencing the same bank. ...There's many more, but unrelated.
Pretty sure, that's telling me, that one bank, slipped time. And the noise says, stretched chain. ... That a new cam sensor isn't going to do it, here.
The real question.
I didn't get most my experience at a Chevy dealer. Twas Honda for me.
I've never done timing, on this specific engine. All the videos show an engine removed. ... Is that necessary?
I have some work to be done on my floor, before I drop something that heavy, to the center of my floor.
And if I can do it, in the car, I'd like to just get moving on it.
I do all mine in the car just have to up and down a lot take your time be in no hurry , if in a rush things happen so take your time
Did a lot of chains never replaced the phasers now I have one coming back needs phasers after chain replacement going to add them for now on
If and when u do the chains replace the phasers also and when setting up the marks take a break after each chain and come back and recheck
My back is killing me shoulda watch yours first do not I repeat do not remove driver side bolts it was a pain to get it back up everything fell to the floor I’ve done an 02 Monte Carlo and it didn’t fal to the floor it rolled right out this one did smh
Who knows a machanic that can do this for me that wont over charge in Chicago
So pretty much you have to take the whole fuckin engine apart . lovely ..
Pretty much replace the cam gears when doing it (phasers)
Definitely not like the old days,
Got that right
Average cost thanks.
$2000
@@richierock1300just labor right?