Hidden Meaning in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Earthling Cinema
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What if an alien in the future stumbled upon Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice? Welcome to Earthling Cinema, where we examine the last remaining artifacts of a once-proud culture and try to understand what human lives were like before their planet was destroyed. I'm your host, Garyx Wormuloid.
This week's film:
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Stars: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Jesse Eisenberg, Gal Gadot
Director: Zack Snyder
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1:00 "basically Superman's kryptonite". I died
I know right
If you know the origins of Kryptonite. that means Superman gets home sick.
Isn't Kryptonite a "Irradiated" rock from his planet.
Like, his home wasn't really poisonous to their inhabitants, but it became like that after the destruction of the planet. I think someone told me this long time ago, but i may be wrong. Correct me if you please.
+Yandere Clementine no, what kryptonite does is make superman "human"
Only the gas variant, like in Zod's ship and Batman's granades..
"... Winner of not one, not two, but 0 Academy Awards."
Savagery!
Andrew P. Soberon well look at suicide squad now lol
You do realize SS only won for hair and makeup.. What a achievement...
lowercase21 somehow the second worst superhero movie in recent years in the only one to win an award
Andrew P. Soberon LIKE EVERY MCU MOVIE :)
The Comedian,the award was diffenitly un earned
How come like 90% of the time people critique BvS. It is always nitpicking about characters not doing this and that?
Because these people prefer clout over genuine thought
"Lex Luthor finds a big emerald, which is basically Superman's kryptonite." Hilarious
I actually like this film
+Magneto's Beacon good for you want a medal?
I liked it too.
It's weird he's comparing the film to Civil War and Apocalypse because those came out afterwards. In fact, Civil War was made to compete with BvS... That's even a fact, Marvel has said so themselves
Yeah but apparently no Marvel fan can admit that the studio was influenced by DC. Even though you could also argue that the MCU wouldn't exist without Nolan's Batman movies since Iron Man was inspired by Batman Begins and that film laid the groundwork for every film that followed.
same i loved this film but every one hates it
Well
"Hidden" as in "bashed over the audience's head like a baseball bat"
"MORE JESUS IMAGERY" - Snyder
"Needs more dream sequences." ~Synder
Despite that some folks missed some stuff that the movie blatantly tells them.
You mean like how Thomas Wayne bashed Glen's head in?
And then kidnapped Glenns wife, maggie.
She then got stockholm syndrome, and changed her name to Martha Wayne
civil war came out after so how could bvs have the same plot as it
The actual amount of casual disappointment in his voice at 2:06 is just beautiful
Could you do The Philosophy of BoJack Horseman?
Yes yes yes yes a million times yes!
so much yes!
+random m8 why do you have my name!!!!!!!!
+random ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Quite possibly the most underated show currently being made.
It deserves so much love.
So I'm suppose to tell someone MatPat sent me
and me
same
Me too I'm cool
awsome me too
samee
"god, the ultimate father figure" that was an amazing thought even for non religious people.
God was a terrible "father". Hes responsible for loads of wars, deaths, the prevention of scientific progress, etc. Islam, Christianity, other religions; They are all terrible. Although, christianity has gotten better and we have Henry VIII to thank for that. Islam is still stuck in the dark ages though unfortunately. There is only one god, and his name is death and he should be defied.
PepeTheSupremacist God is us. And the church gave during the middle age a place not to follow during the renascence witch unified the study people to achieve a goal, so maybe there would be no iluminism without the Catholic Church.
in the feudalism, decentralization was the word. the only think in common during those times was religion, that avoided wars u wanting or not... every part of history was importance to bring us here and nothing is dispensary. even nazism... I ll let think about that one... and the Holy wars? it was us, not god...haha while we don't t know if he exists it is all our achievement and fault.
PepeTheSupremacist and there is no bad religion because none of the old ones was made is made to hurt people ... remember : religion has no fault, it is ours the choice to follow or live behind not updateble knowledge and use this knowledge to hurt others.
Alexandre Velasco My point is that people do horrible things for their religion. E.g the oppression of women, female genital mutilation, oppression of homosexuals, etc;
If you believe its okay to hack off a womans clit in the name of islam or execute a homosexual in the name of christianity then you need to get help or go to prison. Furthermore people shouldnt live their life in fear of gods. People sacrifice alot for their "god". I think that sucks because they are fooled into believing there is some grand afterlife awaiting them, so they never truly live their life.
So don't say it is God's fault. Say it is bad people's fault.
Did no one notice that he took a crack at the church?? You know the last part where he said that Superman's resurrection makes it a profitable franchise!! (Same as Jesus' resurrection and the Church's contant want of "donations")
It was funny as shit though haha
I don't think that was the joke intended, more "like a PROPHETable franchise. 'Cuz Jesus was a prophet and all...
You didn't really analyze this.
Like there was that much to work with.
The movie hadn't any meaning at all.
Well, that's the point. The movie is vapid fan service pretending that it has a meaning.
+Jordan Loux like speaking of the 9/11 references and the fact that the ultimate vilain is gaining more power as you strike with nukes. The only way to deafeat him being for Superman to take his weakness and stand up. Thus showing Batman that is feeling of powerlessness can be overcome (as for the capitol guy whom is in heaven where he can piss straight). And we won't speak of the ghost thematic since it's too long.
Maitrī xp
You are hilarious. Delusional, too, if you think that is even remotely intended, and not just overthinking by desperate fan boys.
Wonder why superman heard Lois screaming for help but didn't hear his own mother when she was being kidnapped. Such great writing
That Dc for you
Because he specifically 'watches' or pays attention to Lois. His mother is in another state, much farther away.
It is great writing, actually.
"Great writing" thats the funniest thing ive read on youtube
everything with superman has writing ex machina. his powers always come in and out or he just finds new ones.
Cynima Rapscallion In man of steel it showed that he listens to his mother too. Plus youd think the strongest guy on the planet could pay attention to more than one person with his super hearing, especially his weak older mother after how zod tried attacking her in MOS. Such interesting writing
BvS is the most underestimated movie of all time. Think of Civil war, no one remembers after few years. But BvS will lead to discussion whenever it come up. That's the beauty of the story teller. Zack is ahead of time. His movies like watchmen, BvS, MoS etc are on of the finest. You need to let the dust go of from your mind think of the world you live in and that exactly what zack shows in his movies by constantly questioning the human morality. This director - Never before, and ever After.
I agree, though he favors adaptations, Man of Steel and BvS are his own original interpretation of these characters and they fit well into their own mythologies and philosophies that he wants to explore, and I can't remember a superhero movie that is as artistic and philosophical in nature (sure there is some philosophy in Dark knight but not that much), BvS is especially interesting because its one of the oldest themes in heroic literature, or storytelling in general, and that is the conflict between man, his limits and vices, and ideal or evils he projects on gods, whatever gods may be, it incredibly nuanced and deep and even hopeful, and I love it
@kavikiru kavikiru only MCU fanbois, lets be fucking honest MCU movies are very forgettable because its just a popcorn flip and target audience is kids and teenagers meanwhile BvS is for adults and its very deep and complex movie it explores philosophy ideas like The problem of evil, Post modernism, Nihilism and existentialism. I can talk about this movie for hours and hours but thats not possible here
@@Shaazz28 face it, dcu is just as forgettable as mcu
@@idislikecringe3048 Maybe for you but not for me
@@idislikecringe3048 I remember everything from Snyder’s trilogy, I only remember three of the MCU movies and even then they are films like Thor The Dark World.
"...Batman v Superman. Winner of-- not _one_, not _two_-- but *zero* academy awards"
Subscribed for the well thought out presentation, The amazing breakdown, and that right-out-the-gate joke. Beautiful.
Still waiting on a film analysis of Donnie Darko
that movie is great !
Oh dear God yes please.
***** um deadpool didnt time travel. at least not in the first film, i mean we should be getting cable in the squeal
Perhaps Enemy as well, Jake Gyllenhaal's Indie Project month?
Training Day too
BVS was AWESOME!!!!!
Whoever disagrees can fight me
Fight me.
Ooo, I wanna see this fight.
+Pickletine El Taimados Hoshi Amaroq square up then boi
Yes, yes a fight! Now, which is Bats, and which is Supes.
I love your smart satirical/ironic commentary within the writing of these videos as well as your implicit and dry delivery of meta-esk references to other media. Seriously man please keep it up, I love that shit! 😀
This is the first video I've seen from you guys. Came over here from Film Theory's link, and I gotta say you guys ROCK!!
Hidden Meaning in MARTHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?!?!?!?
because he is ba... oh... wait... wrong character quote....
Why did you say that name?
+Batman way to greet your best friend Bats!
+Batman lol you crack me up Batsy
Do a philosophy of Bo Burnham.
Ha ha yes
YES
YAS PLS!!!
Great idea
do it please
the intro killed me with the "not 1 , not 2 but 0....." i died of laughter
Whether you liked Dawn of Justice or not, you can't deny Zack Snyder's incredible style of film making. Every shot is beautiful, as with any other films he made.
Actually, you can argue that his style of film making is absolutely garbage very easily.
He makes beautiful looking shots, but he can't coherently string them together. Without having something incredibly clear to follow like he did for Watchmen, the movie just comes out terrible.
I guess if all you want is some pretty pictures spread out through 2 and half to three hours, he's fine.
If you want something with an actual story though, you should probably look elsewhere.
No joke the more you think about this film, the more shitter it gets
that's your opinion
*shittier
And how is bashing a movie without presentation of logic not fanboying? Care to explain, sir?
My opinion: it was overall a good movie, but had a few plot holes.
Nope..the more brilliant it gets..I'll bet your ass don't even know the name Philip Wylie.
This movie had a meaning?
Obviously. It was about evolution vs. creationism, 9/11, and the current political ststus of the USA.
Kappa
But honestly, I have heard those gems said seriously.
Yup, so maybe pay attention next time.
+Cynima Rapscallion lol relax he was making fun of this movie before he got into the philosophy
Cynima Rapscallion I know the meaning. All you have to do is say Martha and you can end conflict.
"Not one, not two but....." Look at the video I don't want to spoil it for ya. But that part made me LAUGH hahaha.And Matpat sent me
The film taught me that gods are men with problems as well as batman being racist to clark is bad. I loved how paranoid batman was it showed something of batman breaking down finally zack took a risk in that. Also anyone notice after Lex's speech about fist at abomination superman blocks doomsdays fist. Took me a while to see it. If you guys still hate the movie I'm cool with that but it won't stop me not should it since it's just a movie.
I was going to compare batman v superman to a garbage fire, but a garbage fire is entertaining
Hey now, if nothing else this movie was entertaining. And there is nothing else. It's just a good time, half of which comes from trying to figure out the bizarre pacing and editing choices.
You're lying to yourself if you say that warehouse scene wasn't amazing
+Luke Pearlberg it was 2 minutes and they weren't that great
Garbage fires are funny mental imagery.
How Is a garbage fire entertaining ? That makes you sound like you have the brain of a Neanderthal
DC > Marvel
dont kill me, my mom name is Martha
D.C. Is way better than marvel...
+Azad Dilek but sadly Marvel gets more mainstream attention
Batman and the rest of Gotham are the only thing good about D.C.
The rest is meh.
+Ser Twenty of House Goodmen your face is meh
+Young Homicidal You don't know what my face looks like but I'd have to agree.
3:13 "The guy has a thing for computer generated muscles." Actually, those blue glowing muscles were the real-life muscles of bodybuilder/fitness celebrity Greg Plitt, illuminated by blue LED lights (with the face of Billy Crudup copy/pasted on and with his voice narrating). Greg Plitt died trying to outrun a train awhile back during a fitness challenge gone wrong, for anyone who wasn't aware. Tangentially, I never _could_ figure out for sure whether the big blue wang was CGI or if it was for-reals - there has been much speculation on the internets though, and it was probably the single most discussed hot-button topic of the Watchmen movie, adding layers of depth that Alan Moore could never have predicted when writing the original graphic novel (...or _did_ he? How prescient _was_ this guy at his peak?)
I can't get enough of Garax Wormuloid!
I don't understand how I missed the obvious "spear of destiny" allegory >_
same...
People miss all kinds of symbolism in BvS because they're told over and over that it's a stupid movie. If you start off thinking of it as a smart movie (with "hidden meaning"), then you notice all kinds of things you wouldn't otherwise.
EXACTLY.
me too XD
I know right!!! Maybe it has to do with our common association of the cross being the thing that killed Jesus. Whereas the spear tends to be more of an afterthought.
YES! THEY'RE DOING BIRDMAN!
Were did you see that ?
Birdman? Pff... I'm hyped for the philosophy of Shrek.
+emmanuel_c during the credits.
im so excite for birdman
i hope its a philosophy video rather than a hidden meaning though :// the philosophy of videos are the best
"...which is basically Superman's kryptonite." "Not one. Not two. But zero." "... because they both have moms... well except one of them." Wow there are a lot of top notch lines in this.
Film theory caused my binge session of your videos! I hope you're happy..! >.< Just subbed :)
matpat sent me
Same here.
Same.
hahah me too
same
same
Lex is such a genius! His plan to destroy an all powerful being that may or may not destroy humanity one day is to create an even more powerful being that will certainly try to destroy humanity. Such a great movie 😊
+Ethan Jannes umm if u say so
+Ethan Jannes you are making a lot of assumptions here. There was no indication that Clark knew who batman was other than the one part at lex's party and even if everything you said was true it was still stupid for lex to create doomsday knowing he would kill superman. He didn't have a fail safe or a back up plan for when doomsday would be done and continue to fuck shit up.
So was the film version of Tony Stark.
The thing is, Lex thought that by creating Doomsday, he'd be able to control it. He didn't anticipate Doomsday immediately going to kill him.
I wrote a short story, Silvak's Choice, further expands on why heroes become villains or corpses. This film had a lot of similarities philosophically with The Watchmen. But whatever hero goes into a dead, dry place to escape their demons returns to enter into a their original home, finding it much cleaner and cared for, but 7 demons worse than the original enter in also.
I honestly can say that you explained the movie better in less than 6 minutes than the whole movie itself.
I bet the comments will be nice and calm on this one
No meaning only....... Martha!
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME ?!?!?!?!!!!!????
+Anonymous because it's his mothers name
+Terra Emotus what does that mean?
its's mean Superman have 'heart',
Marvel fangay only know about Martha
um, okay what ??? O.0
I love this channel Matt patt from game theory and film theory originally sent me this way and I immediately subscribed. Thug notes for life!
you've earned it guys. ill subscribe to you.
who's here cuz of mat pat?
Me
Me! I really like this channel, too!!
Me
I just came from the second part of the Joker video
me
Jesus was already dead when they stabbed him in the side tho...
eh screw the "facts" of the bible everyone back then were drinking constantly for fear of the water and many were likely high alot of the time so seeing as how the bible was written by man I don't think it's very reliable especially when we have no proof that the Cristian god approves of the Cristian holy book
+Amber Shadows
There's no scientific proof. There's lots of historical evidence.
+Nerd Nation actually the bible doesnt say that the other two were pierced with a spear, so personally i believe that it was an act of anger from the roman guard who stabbed him. just a theory tho
+William Vanniejenhuis
Actually, no. First Jesus died, but the two thieves weren't dead yet, so Pilate ordered the Roman soldiers to break the legs of everyone who was being crucified then because it was almost time for the Sabbath. When the soldiers got to Jesus, they saw that he looked dead, so one soldier stabbed him with his spear to make sure that Jesus was dead. (John 19: 31-34 MSG)
+collin mccarter that is true and you have me there, however it does not say specifically that it was done to check and see if he was dead, so just know that my pastor could probably do a better job of explaining it and my version of the argument is a little flimsy, lol
Love you guys! You're awesome :D *patiently waiting for next Thug Notes episode* ^_^
The thing is that even though the movie is based on the comic "The Dark Knight Returns", the roles are kind of swapped as Superman and not Batman is the one with too much autonomy and he "dies" in the end. Also Lex Luthor is there and not some weird mutants who become Batman's apprentices and the golden-age Joker who eventually dies for some reason.
This would have been better as a "The Philosophy of".
Yes, the sarcastic tone of Earthling works well here, but there was truly nothing "hidden" in what was explained here.
We all know the plot, we all know Snyder loves Gods issues and biblical references, we all know math (or do we ?)...
Like I said, dig deeper in the biblical stuff and it could have been a great "The Philosophy of Batman V Superman".
Still, good jokes during the sum up of the plot. But that wasn't really the subject of the video.
Just because the movie was 180 minutes long doesn't mean it had a ton of meaning... He sums it up at the end by saying they have no way of stopping a money making franchise... That's the point
Dashoost While I agree on that, I still stand by my initial point that there's still enough to work on a "The Philosophy of". You can even joke about the lack of Philosophy, in said "phylosophic" episode.
Because while everything they said was true, none of it was hidden. Quite the contrary, Snyder is very proud of the few messages he tries to play with in each of his movies.
So my problem with this video isn't the content. It's great. It's the misleading title.
Nothing was hidden here, while they did try to analyze the movie in a funny way, which is what they already do in their other show... That's the point.
I never drew the parallel between Bruce and Lex, so there was at least one hidden meaning that this helped me see.
The meaning in the movie Batman v Superman is two things, which Earthling Cinema summed up rather neatly. First, there is the problem of evil; second, there is the greatest gladiator fight in the history of the planet. That's pretty much it, so there's little more to explore here.
There was a lot to explore. But people are so shallow they don't care for the deeper emotional side of superheroes. I really liked they God vs Man plot in it.
When you try to catch up to what marvel did in 8 years with one movie
Lol so true, man.
Yup, that's why it sucks. Stuffed to the brim with things that take time to build.
Yeah this easily could've been 2 or more movies. Batman vs Superman, Superman vs Doomsday and probably something else, because they cramed too much story.
but they did it successfully
joshua19094 And its fan boys like you who are letting these film makers get away with slapping together undeveloped characters and muddled storylines all in the name of fanservice. Batman v Superman has no coherent story. It could have, but Zack Snyder made the film. Its a mess.
You guys really nailed this one
Sent here by MatPat as well~ And I love these vids! :D +1 Subscriber!
"winner of not one, not two, but zero academy awards" damn that burn created the fallout
Didn't this come out before Civil War and Apocalypse?
Yes it did and I thought of the same thing. So, that means that they copied Batman V Superman
don't let that stop anyone from riding marvel's dick harder
Please, please don't act like that means people shouldn't ride marvels dick
Lol Marvel is successful and DC isn't. This isn't a "dick riding" situation.
+JUNIOR GARCIA i enjoy Marvel movies but they are becoming very cookie cutter. People hate on DC movies because they aren't and don't have enough funny ha ha. People wanted more comic book and DC delivers now they complain
Your use of the Wilhelm scream is heartwarming
"Batman stels Lex's emerald, and duct tapes it to a stick" I laughed like the joker for like 10 longs seconds strait.
the hidden meaning of this movie is that it's crap
You're wrong! it's not hidden at all.
+jm8080ful it is hiden, because the movie makes it look like it's very important and emotional, when it actually isn't, at all
+Andre Hirata it does suck. I am not a marvel fan. Imo the best superhero movie is dark knight rises. This one, did not come near it at all.
+Andre Hirata I really don't like marvel, btw. Those movies are for stupid kids, like you, aparently...
Yes, winter soldier is for stupid kids and has no emotion and no depth to it. Anyone who says that is guilty of the same blinkered marvel hate as they accuse people who disliked BvS of having.
how can I get my eye brows like his...
Place caterpillar food on your forehead
the same way the wizards do in the hobbit trilogy
A human wouldn't be able to handle the power those brows provide.
+Jeff White hahahahaha
Eyebrow extensions.
No matter what people say.
This is one of my favorite movies.
"Proving that once and for all virtually nothing could stop this from being a prophet-able franchise." XD
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!!!
Oooh, thank you for this. This is explains why I feel so optimistic of the DC universe, despite the kinda clumsy handling of how it's been so far. I can definitely see all of these themes in the film, and it doesn't seem like a stretch to consider them prevalent in the entire film. You've gotten me even more excited for the future of DC!!!! TY :D
I would have watched JUST to hear you explain the plot!
Winner of not one, not two... But ZERO academy awards!
How can you trust a man without a butler?
Could you do a Philosophy of MF DOOM
The rapper?
arolorn
yes
Some one else who likes MF DOOM in the comments ! Never would of thought that there would be Doom fans in the comments of this video.
AYYYYYYYY
YESSS
What is this? There is no excitement tell matpat to do the same thing it would be SO MUCH DIFFERENT!
3:59 "his defection to the dark side of the force" sarcasm level:too damn high! 😂
Have you seen CinemaWins Everything great about Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice? If you haven't you should because it helps you understand that the movie is not the mess that haters say it is.
Gonna check that video out now
lmfao! not really lolz
I never said the movie was perfect. I just said it's not as bad as certain people think it is and cinema wins explains that.
+Jay Marshall yah uh no
ikr
Who else enjoyed Suicide Squad?
no one. FACT
I enjoyed it very much ;3;
Mike Guadarrama-Quiroz so did I, it's a fun movie
James Perez many people enjoyed it. FACT
I did
I'm so glad matpat said I should watch this
I thought it was interesting that he should make the analogy to The Incredibles, as the woman who voiced Elastigirl is the same actor that portrays the Senator.
the who played lex Luther would be good to play the joker
I was thinking The Riddler if not Joker. They're both crazy and want attention. Plus with the Riddler he can be just as much of a show of about how smart he thinks he is. :)
They could've cast him for the Suicide Squads Joker. But they just were too occupied with focussing on mediocrity.
darkflame728 the riddler really.
Snyder chose him over Brian Cranston and that will piss me off for the rest of my days.
Who's Brian Cranston
It just occurred to me, how did WW get her weapons in her carry on baggage and onto the plane? This movie was such a shame.
Turkish Airlines, the #1 airliner for your terrorist needs.
Magic.
Perhaps she spun around and transformed.
+Scottslaw That is a totally possibilitie
She flew. WW can fly. Or they just didn't care. OR she told them she was a cos-player, or she was filming a movie, etc. Or she used magic.
Looks like you picked up from where "The Mating Habits of the Earthbound Human" left off.
This is why I love this channel
Then suicide squad happaned and the enitre DCU fell apart
The DCEU is just fine. Don't be delusional.
Ikr :/
I quite enjoyed it. Proof that a DC movie can be good with minimal Batman
+George Daugherty WE ARE BEING COMPLETELY LUSIONAL
Suicide squad was actually pretty good and just because certain critics gave it a bad review doesn't mean the entire DCEI has fallen apart :/
MatPat sent me and now I love Wisecrack :D
Ooooh! Hidden Meaning (Earthling Cinema) in Birdman and The Purge are gonna be interesting-can't wait to see! :D
TheGameTheorist aka Matpat sended me here! awesome video dude!!
Lex Luthor should've been the Riddler
definitely,he's practically jim carrey's riddler
do something with who framed roger rabbit! :D
"You wanna be Batman when you grow up?"
That means, I need to go to the movie teathre with my parents and then walking home through the alley and then my parents got killed on the alley.
you forget in the original comic as a kid batman prayed to God that he will avenge his parents and fight crime
worse episode so far... instead of finding the meaning of the movie they just did bashing...
Because that's all it deserves if it wasn't Batman or Wonder Woman.
Kind of hard to find a meaning in that waste of 180 minutes in one's life
+Dashoost when you don't want to and find fun to bash it, sure... if you're not part of the mob and you can see a lot of meaning in it.
+gilzineto so you apparently have found some profoundly hidden meaning in BvS? Just like the mob of DC fan boys... and Snyder apologists giving this piece of trash a 65% favorable rating on rotten tomatoes... Martha! Oh Martha!
I agree, though they did discuss it a little bit but only one or two aspects of the subtext as I commented. They did add to my reading, though my reading was already much more thorough. This film hasn't gotten a fair shake.
Pretty much the same plot as Casablanca.
that wilhelm scream though
ok, how did u get those 2 weasels to chill above your eyes like that? 😂😂😂😂 Couldnt help myself.
Mat pat sent me and I think that he's better
Stop telling being that he sent you, everyone else has
Everyone else said that Mat Pat sent them
+Julius Caesar
Piss off, matpat is better
why does everyone have to pick a side to start an internet comment drama? just accept that people like certain people and subjects. These two channels are friends, so why pick a side?
Mat pat sent me and I agree
The first half of this video where he makes fun of the movie is pandering to the sheeple who just followed "popular" opinion and immediately hated the film without even seeing it or even thinking critically while watching it. The other half of this video digs deeper, which is what the critics were supposed to do.
what?
Love the sheeple card DC fans always try to pull. No one hates on BVS because it's the cool thing to do they hate on it because it's dogshit and they were disappointed and upset with the movie
Actually, it has a 65% audience score on RT, so that means majority of people don't think it's dogshit
I wish I hated it because it was cool and not because it was a boring movie. Then I could just watch it and see the superhero movie the fans have wanted for what feels like forever. Unfortunately it's unenjoyable, bleak, black-on-more-black aesthetic was not what I was looking for. Can't wait until Jesse Eisenburg plays Riddler or Joker, since that's the character he portrayed
+Calebowski 09 The problem is audiences on rotten tomatoes typically look at a night at the movies as an investment due to the ridiculous rising cost of ticket prices, popcorn, etc. If those folks come out of the theater and admit that a movie is bad in any way then they are admitting a fault in their judgment about the investment they just made with no chance of any return. This can all be diverted by simply judging the movie as favorable amongst their peers in social media who are also likely to be involved in the cult of personality that has ensued by the time the first showing on opening night has ended
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This should've been 2 separated movies, Batman vs Superman, and The Death of Superman, because I think there wasn't much time for all of it in one movie, and they could've remake the animated movies to normal movie, the animated movies had pretty good stories and plots.
Very interesting video. Zack Snyder's style is very visual, and despite the very poor story telling, his movie didnt deserve so much hate. Some people may not like visual and symbolic movies but we should all respect this artistic choice of snyder's to make a subtle superhero movie.
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I agree, in the end the comics were made just because they wanted to see superman and batman beating the shit out of eachother. This movie seems to be more directed like a comic than any other, dedicating more of his energy to the shot of the moments, like each frame in a panel. That doesn't excuse the bad story telling, but it's what i enjoyed about this movie.
Subtle? HAHAHAHAHA! He is anything BUT subtle. Symbolism that has nothing to do with plot or story. Watch Ingmar Bergman, Kubrick, or Tarkovskiy.
Snyder is nothing but pretentious. He demands us to take the films seriously when the plot and characters are so thin and nothing note of worth happens on screen. 2001 is a film full of great symbolic imagery which are used as tools to tell the narrative.
BvS is fucking shite like Brown Bunny had sex with Transformers.
BvS, Ghostbusters, Suicide Squad, Indie Day, Central Intelligence, and Neon Bull (another pretentious movie) are the WORST I have seen this year.
+pfl95 You have stretched far and long bringing up Kubrick or Bergman in a conversation about today's era of Hollywood hack movies and the cretins like Snyder that strive to create digital effects driven cinema using plot devices that were likely either concocted by primates or thrown away in a waste basket during 80's porn shoots
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Doctor Manhattan wasn't consuming food at 3:13, so why was it censored? I don't understand.
Siddiq Smouse They were using an extended cut where Dr. Manhattan was eating out of his lower pelvic region.
PeterWatchesTheWatchmen oooohhh that makes more sense. Thanks.
you must be a marvel fan boy.
+Jet Set Boom really cause most DC fans like this film
Really? Because no they don't. The type of DC fan who likes this film is the type of DC fan who pops a boner whenever the name "Batman" is so much as mentioned and thinks it's just the greatest when Batman literally became a god for two minutes and don't really care about how many writers tend to turn him into this insufferable Mary Sue because "AH MAH GAHD MAH BATMAN!"
Plebs. Casual peasants. People who don't or can't discern between good writing like "Batgirl Year One," "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow," and "All Star Superman," but love poorly written trash like this, "All Star Batman and Robin," and "Batman: War Games." The type of people who conflate dour, unpleasant, and hollow bullshit with actual depth and maturity just because "it's not for kids."
The Iron Giant and The Incredibles were explicitly for kids. Both of these are more mature than ASBaR and War Games, and Batgirl Year One is so much more adult without ever once being a gross experience.
Hell, even the people I know who actually like Identity Crisis didn't like this movie.
So yeah, not sure where you get your "most DC fans like this" figure, but I don't know a single DC fan, myself included, who liked it. Hell, a guy the likes of which I detailed up there had the softest opinion on it, and he still didn't enjoy anything other than Affleck when he wasn't committing manslaughter.
Lol its a story, take it for what it is. Not all stories make sense or have everyone like them. I liked the movie, the night is always darkest before the dawn is the theme dc is taking. Wait and see
Cory Tucker Except that's not a theme, it's an empty platitude and a cliché you say to people going through a rough time.
Which DC apparently is, what with critical, audience, and box office reception being what it is for the movies so far.
And yeah, not all stories make sense and obviously not everyone is going to like any given story. That's not a justification for your story not making sense and thus being *bad*. Yes, not all stories do make sense, but all *good* ones sure as shit do.
+DeadsvilleFilms I also like to add that a good story should also follow it own logic and at least maintain consistency.
Say what you will about BvS but its not a bad film, its a controversial film. If it wasn't then we wouldn't even bring it up every half hour to argue about it. Bad films are forgotten and ignored, they're shunned into obscurity until they cease to exist in the public eye. THIS film and its predecessor Man of Steel still has people talking about them; what they offer, how they compare to older content, what they represent to the viewer. Personally I think they're both works of art and some of Snyder's best work.
That's because they contain such icons characters that have been well known for years that's why it's so controversial.
Superman stabbing Doomsday is explained in the film. Superman is the only one with the physical strength to penetrate Doomsday's thick skin. You can even see in the film: Superman stabs, Doomsday remains strong enough to stab Superman, and only then can Superman use the additional leverage to drive it deep enough to finally kill him. Batman in no way would have had the physical strength, and it's debatable if Wonder Woman could but since Superman is always shown to be stronger, it seems doubtful.
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