I'll summarize what the others have said [and add my own thoughts] that I think will be helpful for the next Karax run: - The enemy AI doesn't target Artosis Pylons. We do not need to overbuild them. - Photon Cannons are more effective than Khaydarin Monoliths because of [1] less cost, [2] detection, which Monoliths don't have, [3] higher attack speed, which is more useful vs mines. - Observers have a surveillance mode that immobilizes them but gives them a much greater vision radius. Kinda like siege mode. This is great for seeing up the high ground, and spotting for your monoliths. - Chrono Surge and Purifier Beam are both cooldown-based and use no energy, so I like to just use them whenever they become available so I can have more of them per game. - Artanis is the undisputed best commander for this mission because [1] Guardian Shell extends your life so much because Mines are burst damage and basically get used up immediately, giving your units free reign after that [2] Tempests (Level 11) outrange both mines and Photon Overcharge, [3] he can warp in observers, giving instant detection. - 52:45 - That was Kerrigan's Nydus. You can use them for your own ground units so the notification is actually helpful. :P Great entertaining video. Can I add your videos to my BNet/Reddit posts for mutations?
yessss, i was thinking the same here watching the pylons and monoliths party like whaaat u need more dps honey, detection and carriers were hoooorrible just being built to die, i mean so sad to watch
also, im thinking, artanis would be the best for this if the cannon thing was the greatest of ideas in the world because of the spear of adun pylon thing... i mean, scout with observers, put pylon field if necessary, then the cannons... but the main thing i think is the observers cause overseers and vorazun oracles will just die to the widow mines like that *snap*. they arent proper detection on this map
@LowkoTv Just a small thing i noticed with your Karax plan. A small fix with dramatically make it better lol. It is critical to get 2 upgrades for Karax asap. #1 is the shield ability for batteries in the forge and #2 is the Shield battery energy regeneration upgrade in the Twilight Council. Those 2 upgrades makes your cannon line super effective at survival because they receive early/mid game shields and super fast energy regeneration from the beginning thus healing your buildings 24/7. (allowing you to spend a little less on cannons and more on Carriers with Air attack upgrades) a Also start grouping better, maximum space usage even with cannon rushing with no space in-between buildings (helps your damage be focused on a common area of defense). A basic setup is pylon with 3 cannons in the front (row 1) towards the enemy direction and 2 shield batteries on the sides of the pylon in (row 2 including the pylon) . You can add 2 monoliths to the back line(row 3). Its how i can be supper effective with karax with maximum resource spending with the goal of not losing buildings. I am no protoss expert at all in normal SC but in co-op I got Karax mastered. Try that idea in a symetrical fasion to just see it then you can adapt it to angles. C=Cannon B=Shield battery P=Pylon M=Monolyth CCC BPB MM
BTW i only learned how to control the swarm from your amazing teaching skills and enjoy all of your videos. The Zerg Macro God now blesses me....i just need the Zerg Micro God to help me lol.
Nice vid lowko. I did this with Artanis on brutal on the 1st try using mass tempest and observer since the observer can have the same area of detection as Karax's cannons with it's skill and can move while the tempests clear the way for your ally or even snipe everything from the safety of the sides.
I love your plays Lowko. Khaydarin monolith is a type of defensive structure what best pays off when placed at the back, behind photon cannons. Yet you always place it up front where gets destroyed after one shot. :D
Just Swan is good enough. You can drill and tank leap to mine sweep while your partner protects them with air. I guess your partner can kill the bonus with the air too if there's time. Karaz has reduced range so it's not as good cuz karaz can't really solo the bonus.
+rasmasyean I think Raynor+Swann because Raynor has the improved tanks and vikings, bur Raynor+Karaz is good too since Raynor spend soo much gas on his mech army
Yeah, or you can do ranyor tanks and swan goliaths. I think the goliaths have enough range to shoot over the tanks to hit most units too. Tanks seem to be rally good at leveling those monoliths too. You just need to get the there in one piece.
Funny enough with the gas bonus I could perma produce/chrono-boost 3 carriers at once, and with the range upgrade for drones it was efficient to trigger and destroy mines safely plus getting rid of the first bonus easily. I'm not really the turret kind of guy with Karax, his units get so efficient and cheep with masteries that it's kind of a waste to not make them imo.
It could be that these mutations require so much defense that everyone playing karaz kinda defaulted to the cover-entire-base-with-defense role. And the word spread....
Having Artanis is nice. Tempests' Disintegrate and the Guardian Shell passive are super useful in this. I was able to cheese with just a ton of Corsairs and skirt the outside and take out the shards, plus Vorazun's passive to save cloaked units. Really just abilities that save units are real nice for that last push especially if you have like nydus or recall to constantly reinforce your army quickly.
Playing this mutation with you was lots of fun Lowko, even thought I decided to switch to Vorazun because I didn't want you to waste too much time since you were recording xD.
Karax/Artanis is by far the best combo for this. Artanis tempests outrange mines and overcharge, and the reconstruction beam/guardian combo is overpowered as hell on this map.Karax can easily get detection with probes near the army for cannons, and artanis can insta warp in detection
You should try out kerrigan and vorazun. Their combo-ults are dangerous. And with the right masteries, timing and good-enough size of army, deadly for every enemy base. And you barely loose any unit at the end.
did it with artanis, with vorazun partner, i went dragoon based play reavers, the dragoons outrange mines and auto sweep if u micro observers which u can spam off the robos, but the battlecruisers cloaked spamming yamatos at the end is always rough
I think the archons look all messed up is because of a combination of two things; 1) They are like, 99% energy, and even in normal multiplayer, they look like they are. That provides most of their appearance in this game, but 2) When a unit is cloaked, then they gain a silvery appearance. Combine these two, and the archons appearance is a little strange, but not unexpected.
Jim Kirk no, he uploaded a video of this same mutator but with artanis as a partner earlier today. i remember because there was this one moment where he was like "oh theres a mine here, but good thing guardian shell prevents my workers from dying"
+LowkoTV I think my phrasing was bad. I played HOTS ranked 1v1's before. But can't seem to go higher than silver. Am wondering is it due to poor macro, micro, build order, or game knowledge.
Watch some games by great players, such as Lowko here and try some of their strategies/ build orders. You may not get the timings the same, but the general unit compositions will help immensely! Most of what moved me up into gold was just knowing what units to build and when, not micro. I still can't attack and macro to save my life...
+LowkoTV I see.. Hey Lowko, have you tried opening with quick double gas when playing Karax? I remember I always took that gas ASAP. Because, I believe the barrier upgrade and Adun energy regen can be researched immediately by the time the first chrono wave become available, thus you can save up early energy... Though, by now you should begin to level up another hero... Kerrigan, most likely.
you should place the shield batteries in front of the cannons... at least for the cannons you put near your bases i don't think the monolith can detect cloaked units also, keep chrono on the solar forge. it will increase the rate of energy regen.
plz do Vorazun next~~~i wanna see one of the most skillful streamer master the strongest co-op hero, and what he can do with her, great video as always, great job lowko!!!!!
My friend and I had what seemed to be an easier time, by doing Swann Vorazun. Even managed to bonus objective without issue too. Dark pylon, dark archon, with gas drones for Vorazun's archon DT and I don't know Swann personally. Granted this isn't to say there wasn't any issue at all, just that it didn't take us an hour to do so. :P
Karax+Artanis -- Karax builds many cannons to help observation, batteries and carriers to help repair artanis's tempests so they won't die! Artanis builds a whole army of tempests and MOST importantly, produce the ob immediately to detect enemies in the battle field! This combination is just too powerful!!! You don't even need micro-controls and move your army pretty much! As you build a LOT of cannons and batteries along your way, any enemy attack should be detected and delayed. When they come, Karax should be able to use SPEAR OF ADUN to burn them to the ground!
canalf007 well just have song activated in the parameter then up your sound, that's pretty much it. They are not single player only, but LOTV. So the song are everywhere, arcade multi whatever.
i think he ment "options" when he said parameters :D go to menu - options - sounds and there you can select the music you wanna listen to, just have a deep look into all the options there
nah Lowko, this one i did first try even tho mines screwed me in the start with getting gas to Vorazun, but Zagara banelings are really usefull here, my partner was also pretty good. and also time stop is amazing
I managed to clear this by slow push only with cannons (no unit) so that I can guaranteed my partner's army safety with a detection. Honestly, the last push was such a pain (THOSE HIGH RAMP !!). However, in my opinion the best commander here could be Artanis. His guardian shell can rendered spider/widow mines useless. Artanis+Vorazun combo can almost ignore the mines (Gshell with DT respawn). Only down point is Artanis has to be specialize in controlling the.... err.... Observer.
All those pylons and cannons and such just get left behind as you move forward. Isn't that kind of a waste of resources? I guess the alternative is units, which are destroyed more easily, and I guess the satellite firepower does the work of a lot of units. Have you tried using a different hero, and just building up a massive army? I guess those long range tower things with shield battery support are probably the most effective composition element to use against this type of enemy force.
Now i didn't do it on brutal (i am a scrub who can onnly play on coop hard), but another good choice is artanis, because of the dragoon possibility with the upgraded range, And the ability to drop observers anywhere, your coop companion just has to hold the first push and you can rush observers to make the mission alot easier
Vorazun and Swann the best team for this. Swann for the gas drone, and you can go DT and not to mention that timestop is OP and reveal everything in the map. Literally the easiest mutation for this week
You know what works on this map? Cyclone. It can a-move mines. And with Vorazun, you might be able to pull units to get DT action without them blowing up.
I think you are a very good player but karax is just not your kind of commander. You lost so many things due to lacks of vision, karax is so good when you spam out a few more photon cannons instead of the big ones.
We got , I mean , uhhh . Man I didnt even get the first one -_- we lost straight away . I need some tips on how to micro or macro , I get supply blocked each sec
Suad Dizdarevic Yes. Even the very top pros do it. I'd seen both Jaedong and Flash do it when they expect to be doing a lot of micro. Because there's simply no time to go back and build while you're in the middle of an intense battle. Once you get to about 140 supply, triple building is perfectly fine. At about 70 supply, double building is fine. Every time you make a round of units, make the supply units or structures. Check to see if you've too much floating resource. If you do, spend it on an expansion, more production structures or upgrades or tech. Because producing supply is now part of a chain of actions, it should come automatically with a bit of practice.
Artanis with mass tempest is really good for this 1. since it greatly out ranges widow mines and high dps from tempest make photon overcharge useless (most buildings get insta killed with like 20 tempests)
And how hard last week's mutation was for you? I personally think last week's one is harder than this week's one but I wonder what you thinks about that.
in my case it was very easy with vorazun cause cloaked units only can get destroyed if they are spotted So you can easily destroy the mines and have the biggest Problems away Furthermore the level 14 ability makes it even much better; if your cloaked units would die they respawn at their building in this case the dt building.
So, if you didn't figured that out yet... you get BONUS time after you finish each bonus objective, so there is no point in delaying first one what so ever. Another strange thing is... it took you 3 attempts to figure out that carriers are bad at this mutation... it's like... mines one-shot like almost ALL of your interseptors and photon overcharge finish off the remaining ones, so you have an expensive unit that does 0 dmg, and you have alot of them, i can understand that you wouldn't figure it out after reading mutations description, but after 1st attempt it was obvious that they were useless, couldn't you see that your carriers had no interseptors in them?.. for like 3 tries in a row?.. And yeah, cannons are way better then monolyths and putting up alot of bateries is a good option too. Personaly i find this mutation pretty easy. The ones with explosive enemies is a nightmare if you're playing against zergs or bio terran, your armies will shrink in a blink of an eye (even though against a protoss it was a walk in the park).
Lowko the time is the same if you have 5 mins left after the first and you destroy him then you got 12 min for the second if you kill the first by 2 mins left you have 9 for the second one
the kaldarin monoliths or something arent detectors. i think you shouldve gone cannons only maybe a few monoliths to help out but not that many. also they have very low dps compared to two cannons, cannons would be a lot better
Abathur is the hardest 1 to do this one since he has to either sit on base for 15 Minutes to get reasonable guardian devour army or his units will take widow mine hits to a face even with detection (most of his units r short ranged)
This seems like a traditional SC1 Tank-Leap map. You can just leapfrog tanks and they have long range. With Swan, you have the drill and flying detectors too.
+Olof Häggqvist now that you said, I finnished with Raynor xD I built like 4-5 CC and some tanks with the upgrade "tank siege speed armor-thing" and some viking for AA
karax/artanis are op as fuck, mass tempest while karax is pushing, and with invisible observers and range of tempests shit dies before you get to them.
I'll summarize what the others have said [and add my own thoughts] that I think will be helpful for the next Karax run:
- The enemy AI doesn't target Artosis Pylons. We do not need to overbuild them.
- Photon Cannons are more effective than Khaydarin Monoliths because of [1] less cost, [2] detection, which Monoliths don't have, [3] higher attack speed, which is more useful vs mines.
- Observers have a surveillance mode that immobilizes them but gives them a much greater vision radius. Kinda like siege mode. This is great for seeing up the high ground, and spotting for your monoliths.
- Chrono Surge and Purifier Beam are both cooldown-based and use no energy, so I like to just use them whenever they become available so I can have more of them per game.
- Artanis is the undisputed best commander for this mission because [1] Guardian Shell extends your life so much because Mines are burst damage and basically get used up immediately, giving your units free reign after that [2] Tempests (Level 11) outrange both mines and Photon Overcharge, [3] he can warp in observers, giving instant detection.
- 52:45 - That was Kerrigan's Nydus. You can use them for your own ground units so the notification is actually helpful. :P
Great entertaining video. Can I add your videos to my BNet/Reddit posts for mutations?
yessss, i was thinking the same here watching the pylons and monoliths party like whaaat u need more dps honey, detection and carriers were hoooorrible just being built to die, i mean so sad to watch
also, im thinking, artanis would be the best for this if the cannon thing was the greatest of ideas in the world because of the spear of adun pylon thing... i mean, scout with observers, put pylon field if necessary, then the cannons... but the main thing i think is the observers cause overseers and vorazun oracles will just die to the widow mines like that *snap*. they arent proper detection on this map
This one was *before* Nova was released, IIRC...
She would have really broken this mutation.
@LowkoTv Just a small thing i noticed with your Karax plan. A small fix with dramatically make it better lol. It is critical to get 2 upgrades for Karax asap. #1 is the shield ability for batteries in the forge and #2 is the Shield battery energy regeneration upgrade in the Twilight Council. Those 2 upgrades makes your cannon line super effective at survival because they receive early/mid game shields and super fast energy regeneration from the beginning thus healing your buildings 24/7. (allowing you to spend a little less on cannons and more on Carriers with Air attack upgrades) a Also start grouping better, maximum space usage even with cannon rushing with no space in-between buildings (helps your damage be focused on a common area of defense). A basic setup is pylon with 3 cannons in the front (row 1) towards the enemy direction and 2 shield batteries on the sides of the pylon in (row 2 including the pylon) . You can add 2 monoliths to the back line(row 3). Its how i can be supper effective with karax with maximum resource spending with the goal of not losing buildings. I am no protoss expert at all in normal SC but in co-op I got Karax mastered. Try that idea in a symetrical fasion to just see it then you can adapt it to angles. C=Cannon B=Shield battery P=Pylon M=Monolyth CCC BPB MM
BTW i only learned how to control the swarm from your amazing teaching skills and enjoy all of your videos. The Zerg Macro God now blesses me....i just need the Zerg Micro God to help me lol.
Lowko, you build way to much pylons :P
You must construct additional pylons!
You can never have too many Pylons
By building so many he''ll never have to listen to "YOU REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PYLONS"
Quantum Persona with karax he almost has no units
Sure he does. Workers count to supply count. ;)
karax is love, karax is life
Nice vid lowko. I did this with Artanis on brutal on the 1st try using mass tempest and observer since the observer can have the same area of detection as Karax's cannons with it's skill and can move while the tempests clear the way for your ally or even snipe everything from the safety of the sides.
I love your plays Lowko.
Khaydarin monolith is a type of defensive structure what best pays off when placed at the back, behind photon cannons. Yet you always place it up front where gets destroyed after one shot. :D
Bro this was a good one. Nice job man.
Use energizers as Karax to take control of their units
very powerfull, just got to remember its only usable vs terran and protoss (zerg have no mech units)
+Gage Buckles I know
That eletric tetrahedron on your canon at 27:13 is a hibryd ability. It disables static defenses for a few seconds.
I think you mean hybrid ability.
yeah... huge misspell. Thanks for the correction
explain why not Colossus+observers to clear (Colossus out range?)
Same here, probably the one I retried the most. Good thing Swann and Karaxx work well together :p
Just Swan is good enough. You can drill and tank leap to mine sweep while your partner protects them with air. I guess your partner can kill the bonus with the air too if there's time. Karaz has reduced range so it's not as good cuz karaz can't really solo the bonus.
+rasmasyean I think Raynor+Swann because Raynor has the improved tanks and vikings, bur Raynor+Karaz is good too since Raynor spend soo much gas on his mech army
Yeah, or you can do ranyor tanks and swan goliaths. I think the goliaths have enough range to shoot over the tanks to hit most units too. Tanks seem to be rally good at leveling those monoliths too. You just need to get the there in one piece.
Funny enough with the gas bonus I could perma produce/chrono-boost 3 carriers at once, and with the range upgrade for drones it was efficient to trigger and destroy mines safely plus getting rid of the first bonus easily.
I'm not really the turret kind of guy with Karax, his units get so efficient and cheep with masteries that it's kind of a waste to not make them imo.
It could be that these mutations require so much defense that everyone playing karaz kinda defaulted to the cover-entire-base-with-defense role. And the word spread....
Lowko, those big monoliths don't work as detectors. You'll need actual photon cannons for that
The flying Hybrids can cast a spell that basically stasifies one defensive structure for a while.
Cloaked archons are hilarious!
Having Artanis is nice. Tempests' Disintegrate and the Guardian Shell passive are super useful in this. I was able to cheese with just a ton of Corsairs and skirt the outside and take out the shards, plus Vorazun's passive to save cloaked units. Really just abilities that save units are real nice for that last push especially if you have like nydus or recall to constantly reinforce your army quickly.
your sc2 lotv videos are very entertaining! keep it up.
It's good to play a really challanging mutation once in a while. Keeps you sharp.
best thumbnail yet
Playing this mutation with you was lots of fun Lowko, even thought I decided to switch to Vorazun because I didn't want you to waste too much time since you were recording xD.
Who were you ingame?
I'm Azure, the second guy.
Ah cool
#DicksOutForKerrigan
+Hoenheim - You're Azure ? damn
Yup I'm famous af Kappa
Karax/Artanis is by far the best combo for this. Artanis tempests outrange mines and overcharge, and the reconstruction beam/guardian combo is overpowered as hell on this map.Karax can easily get detection with probes near the army for cannons, and artanis can insta warp in detection
You should try out kerrigan and vorazun. Their combo-ults are dangerous. And with the right masteries, timing and good-enough size of army, deadly for every enemy base. And you barely loose any unit at the end.
"Carriers are soo good." They continuously on 1 attack drone each because all the attack drones keep dying hahaha. So good
Them Widow Mines be brutal this week!
Vorazun seems to be the solution to many of these :P
Can't believe I actually lived to see supply depot overcharge
Carefuk!
:D
like your image :v
I think wasn't an accident xD
Sounds like a title for a porn movie about hospital.
LOL
did it with artanis, with vorazun partner, i went dragoon based play reavers, the dragoons outrange mines and auto sweep if u micro observers which u can spam off the robos, but the battlecruisers cloaked spamming yamatos at the end is always rough
i can feel his frustration when zagara died and kerrigan died.. lol
COOL VIDEO LOWKO!
I think the archons look all messed up is because of a combination of two things;
1) They are like, 99% energy, and even in normal multiplayer, they look like they are. That provides most of their appearance in this game, but
2) When a unit is cloaked, then they gain a silvery appearance. Combine these two, and the archons appearance is a little strange, but not unexpected.
Did he miss the previous mutation?
He played it on stream the last hours while it was still available, not sure if he made a video of it aswell.
I wasn't watching that sream i think. But ok, maybe he will post it on yotube later
I did it on stream, but sadly didn't have time to make a video last week.
LowkoTV Oh, that's ok. My skill level doesn't let me to play those mutations so I always watch your videos. =)
What did you think of it in terms of difficulty? Was this mutation just as hard?
I hope they make more missions or open it up to the community for custom missions.
Oh snap I've never seen the fail mission quote
wait...didn't you upload a similar video earlier with this mission but with artanis as a partner?
same mission, other mutator
Jim Kirk no, he uploaded a video of this same mutator but with artanis as a partner earlier today. i remember because there was this one moment where he was like "oh theres a mine here, but good thing guardian shell prevents my workers from dying"
AznPr1des ah alright
carriers' weak point in this mutation is their interceptors die to widow mine fast, and you have little firepower left
@Lowko, just started playing SC2. Any tips on a start race and how to get beetter?
+Xavier Ang You get better by playing the game. I would recommend playing some Campaign and co-op, then unranked and eventually ranked 1v1.
+LowkoTV I think my phrasing was bad. I played HOTS ranked 1v1's before. But can't seem to go higher than silver. Am wondering is it due to poor macro, micro, build order, or game knowledge.
Watch some games by great players, such as Lowko here and try some of their strategies/ build orders. You may not get the timings the same, but the general unit compositions will help immensely!
Most of what moved me up into gold was just knowing what units to build and when, not micro. I still can't attack and macro to save my life...
1:10:16 disruptor dying in slow motion :D
Does lowko know that maximum research on spear of adun energy regen is really powerful? Or that his sentries can mind control enemy mech units?
Yes, and yes. The mind control is extremely good but requires a lot of actions. Generally speaking it doesn't seem to be worth it.
+LowkoTV I see.. Hey Lowko, have you tried opening with quick double gas when playing Karax? I remember I always took that gas ASAP. Because, I believe the barrier upgrade and Adun energy regen can be researched immediately by the time the first chrono wave become available, thus you can save up early energy... Though, by now you should begin to level up another hero... Kerrigan, most likely.
He should had a Colt Carbine to clear the area.
Nice video, but why don't you use more Shield Batteries?! They are great for keeping cannons alive!
you should place the shield batteries in front of the cannons... at least for the cannons you put near your bases
i don't think the monolith can detect cloaked units
also, keep chrono on the solar forge. it will increase the rate of energy regen.
Have you played LoV? You would know that you can control the Purifier beam's direction, if you've played LoV!
plz do Vorazun next~~~i wanna see one of the most skillful streamer master the strongest co-op hero, and what he can do with her, great video as always, great job lowko!!!!!
Voidrays Voidrays gonna mass my Voidrays
Everyone tell to Blizzard to nerf them nerf them
+Drakken Zone yesterday was voidrays, today is voidrays,
gotta make my mind up - when do I move out?
Some people say, void rays are strong but to slow for big maps.
I say...
They never heard of the teleport ability from the dark pylons...
lowko where did you buy starcraft?
Any chance you could turn your graphics up?
Hey, what camera or app should I get to play games on computer. (Self cam not needed
what is the benefits of moving multiple observers together ? have much bigger vision ?
Junn Kit Wong if one dyes, you have more who can instantly replace him and it can be split up to increase vision
My friend and I had what seemed to be an easier time, by doing Swann Vorazun. Even managed to bonus objective without issue too.
Dark pylon, dark archon, with gas drones for Vorazun's archon DT and I don't know Swann personally.
Granted this isn't to say there wasn't any issue at all, just that it didn't take us an hour to do so. :P
I played Raynor in this mission and dont have any detectors beside Turret and Scan. Only can beat it on Normal, any tips?
Just beat it hard by using sneak Banshee attacks and tons of CC Scan.
Mass CC
Great Thumbnail haha
lowko if you activate chrono boost it also boosts your energy regeneration for the spear of adun
it really makes a diffrence
Not true. You have to spec mastery points into that.
That Mastery increases the energy gained by it but it's not true that without that mastery it doesn't optimize the energy production.
you guys are right
sorry for sharing wrong information !
I liked Vorazum on this one. The mind controled units kept perma invis
This mission is doable without Karax. Artanis can do wonders on this mutation.
Karax+Artanis -- Karax builds many cannons to help observation, batteries and carriers to help repair artanis's tempests so they won't die!
Artanis builds a whole army of tempests and MOST importantly, produce the ob immediately to detect enemies in the battle field! This combination is just too powerful!!! You don't even need micro-controls and move your army pretty much!
As you build a LOT of cannons and batteries along your way, any enemy attack should be detected and delayed. When they come, Karax should be able to use SPEAR OF ADUN to burn them to the ground!
how do you put that 1 player campaign soundtrack in your coop missions?
canalf007 well just have song activated in the parameter then up your sound, that's pretty much it. They are not single player only, but LOTV. So the song are everywhere, arcade multi whatever.
+Niko song activated in the parameter? I don't understant what you mean with this.
i think he ment "options" when he said parameters :D go to menu - options - sounds and there you can select the music you wanna listen to, just have a deep look into all the options there
Finished this one first try with Artanis/Vorazun combo and got both bonus objectives too... Felt easy for us compared to the mutation last week.
I know this was released before she came out, but Nova would have been broken af on this one.
Basically soloed this as Swann with Sci-V and Goli. Last weeks Mutator was hard though
when is the next nova pack coming out ?
Yea, when is the next Nova Pack coming out?
Does Karax not have observers/oracles?
If think he does. However, the problem with Karax is that he has weak ground to air army.
he does, but his observers are expensive
+manuk51a his observer is at normal price
Surely it would be better to build a lot of observers and have defences at his bases
nah Lowko, this one i did first try even tho mines screwed me in the start with getting gas to Vorazun, but Zagara banelings are really usefull here, my partner was also pretty good. and also time stop is amazing
What kind of chair is Lowko using and would anyone recommend it?
+( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) It's pretty good for the price. I got it from Ikea a few years ago.
LowkoTV Thank you
It's a lowchair
I belive thats a MARKUS model, I bought it 2 weeks ago for 150 € and its great ! Recommended.
Lamina it's the chair in the video for Derude - Sandstorm
If you cannon rush build more cannons and less pylons. you don't need 3 pylons per cannon.
i used artanis on hard and cleared it on the first try.
I managed to clear this by slow push only with cannons (no unit) so that I can guaranteed my partner's army safety with a detection. Honestly, the last push was such a pain (THOSE HIGH RAMP !!).
However, in my opinion the best commander here could be Artanis. His guardian shell can rendered spider/widow mines useless. Artanis+Vorazun combo can almost ignore the mines (Gshell with DT respawn). Only down point is Artanis has to be specialize in controlling the.... err.... Observer.
Karax + Swann = the most powerfull combo
Can somebody explain me how to manage which nexus chronoboosts which building and how to simply manage that?
Thanks!
All those pylons and cannons and such just get left behind as you move forward. Isn't that kind of a waste of resources? I guess the alternative is units, which are destroyed more easily, and I guess the satellite firepower does the work of a lot of units. Have you tried using a different hero, and just building up a massive army? I guess those long range tower things with shield battery support are probably the most effective composition element to use against this type of enemy force.
Now i didn't do it on brutal (i am a scrub who can onnly play on coop hard), but another good choice is artanis, because of the dragoon possibility with the upgraded range, And the ability to drop observers anywhere, your coop companion just has to hold the first push and you can rush observers to make the mission alot easier
this is very hard but thanks to the f*cking micro they rarely use
Vorazun and Swann the best team for this. Swann for the gas drone, and you can go DT and not to mention that timestop is OP and reveal everything in the map. Literally the easiest mutation for this week
You know what works on this map? Cyclone. It can a-move mines. And with Vorazun, you might be able to pull units to get DT action without them blowing up.
Should utilize a couple extra probes to queue cannons and pylons faster
Haha couldn't beat it until a Vorazun came in...
Yeah this one was crazy, my army got rekt a few times. Took a few attempts.
lowko just doin friendly dmg XD
I think if it's me I'll go through tremendous multitasking
You alive bro
I'm alright if my video buffers, but if I have to wait for an ad to buffer....
Reclamation is so good vs enemy mech units but the energizers need meat shields
I think you are a very good player but karax is just not your kind of commander. You lost so many things due to lacks of vision, karax is so good when you spam out a few more photon cannons instead of the big ones.
We got , I mean , uhhh .
Man I didnt even get the first one -_- we lost straight away .
I need some tips on how to micro or macro , I get supply blocked each sec
Overproduce the supply unit/structure by 1 once you get above 70 supply. Like double build overlords or triple build them.
So like after the 70 mark , I should start mass producing the supply builds
Suad Dizdarevic Yes. Even the very top pros do it. I'd seen both Jaedong and Flash do it when they expect to be doing a lot of micro. Because there's simply no time to go back and build while you're in the middle of an intense battle.
Once you get to about 140 supply, triple building is perfectly fine. At about 70 supply, double building is fine.
Every time you make a round of units, make the supply units or structures. Check to see if you've too much floating resource. If you do, spend it on an expansion, more production structures or upgrades or tech. Because producing supply is now part of a chain of actions, it should come automatically with a bit of practice.
Ok thank you very much mate , I love this community :D
Artanis with mass tempest is really good for this 1. since it greatly out ranges widow mines and high dps from tempest make photon overcharge useless (most buildings get insta killed with like 20 tempests)
And how hard last week's mutation was for you? I personally think last week's one is harder than this week's one but I wonder what you thinks about that.
Lowko next time use an energizer in phasing mode instead of a pylon for your cannons and monoliths.
in my case it was very easy with vorazun cause cloaked units only can get destroyed if they are spotted
So you can easily destroy the mines and have the biggest Problems away
Furthermore the level 14 ability makes it even much better; if your cloaked units would die they respawn at their building in this case the dt building.
So, if you didn't figured that out yet... you get BONUS time after you finish each bonus objective, so there is no point in delaying first one what so ever.
Another strange thing is... it took you 3 attempts to figure out that carriers are bad at this mutation... it's like... mines one-shot like almost ALL of your interseptors and photon overcharge finish off the remaining ones, so you have an expensive unit that does 0 dmg, and you have alot of them, i can understand that you wouldn't figure it out after reading mutations description, but after 1st attempt it was obvious that they were useless, couldn't you see that your carriers had no interseptors in them?.. for like 3 tries in a row?..
And yeah, cannons are way better then monolyths and putting up alot of bateries is a good option too.
Personaly i find this mutation pretty easy. The ones with explosive enemies is a nightmare if you're playing against zergs or bio terran, your armies will shrink in a blink of an eye (even though against a protoss it was a walk in the park).
And Lowko doubted the dts lol
Dat thumbnail though.
wouldn't zeratul be better than karax?
Lowko the time is the same if you have 5 mins left after the first and you destroy him then you got 12 min for the second if you kill the first by 2 mins left you have 9 for the second one
+FlameHaze I figured as much! Thanks for the clarification.
Nova would be good there if she was playable there
the kaldarin monoliths or something arent detectors. i think you shouldve gone cannons only maybe a few monoliths to help out but not that many. also they have very low dps compared to two cannons, cannons would be a lot better
He needs to make some AOE 2 videos.
Wouldn't someone like nova/Arbithr be better here because of novas vision and range and Arbithr for the mend healing
thats karax's colossus are so stronge: 20 dmg per laser (with 0/0/0) and the burn the ground
Thank the best for this Mission is Karax with pylon and raynor with mass command center and scan
May I ask for your ID Lowko? I mainly play coop and I hope one day I could make a good coop run with ya. =D
Time to get some Coke and potatoe chips!
lol i tought this week is the easiest since i completed it within first time and it was my first succefull brutal mutation as kerigan + Swann in team
If you want challenge try with Raynor
I found it very easy with raynor, build alot of comand centers for detection, and use banshees to snipe the void shards
Abathur is the hardest 1 to do this one since he has to either sit on base for 15 Minutes to get reasonable guardian devour army or his units will take widow mine hits to a face even with detection (most of his units r short ranged)
This seems like a traditional SC1 Tank-Leap map. You can just leapfrog tanks and they have long range. With Swan, you have the drill and flying detectors too.
+Olof Häggqvist now that you said, I finnished with Raynor xD I built like 4-5 CC and some tanks with the upgrade "tank siege speed armor-thing" and some viking for AA
karax/artanis are op as fuck, mass tempest while karax is pushing, and with invisible observers and range of tempests shit dies before you get to them.
and about bonus I don't care if it's 2000 exp I care to make it even more challenging
Overcharged planetary fortress? What a mess…