mason s. more drumming should be like neil / there's a lot of man-bun flip flop wearing lame-os playing floor toms with a spatula saying they're drummers - drumming needs more fills and more flash / stanier does it correctly, though - he's right on / his drum sound and beats are awesome
If I could share this particular band 1 million time I would!!! I want you guys to find out about them also! *watch?v=js6TBze6vNA* Like these people! Be sure you youtube that video
I forgot I had this song in my favorites playlist on Spotify. When it started playing I didn't know what it was (phone in pocket, headphones on), but let it continue. As soon as 0:53 came around I legit made the stanky face and head bobbing hard from how taken back I was. Still sounds amazing as it did the first time.
I don't know why but this song kinda reminds me of like Mordor and the husel and busel of orcs building weapons and you can hear a big fire dragon in the background starting to stir in the depths😮 I f!@#$% love this song!
I remember years of bleeding fingers. I started guitar lessons when I was 13. I played in bands for 25 years. For the first 10 years I practiced 5 hours a day. I still sucked in comparison to real musicianship, but I became proficient. I can still recognize the few from the fakers within seconds. Opinionated? Yes, and harsh when it comes to musicians and vocalists (yes, I took singing lessons too). Whether you love or hate Timberlake or GaGa, (I don't dislike), they put in the time.
What can I say? How nicer a way can I say expand your musical horizons? It's good to see some bands attempt to play instrumental music, which does require musicianship. Bands today don't start for the music, but for the girls/guys and the money. It's practice on your instrument, not rehearsal that makes a good musician. One guy took a survey of great musicians and found it took a minimum of 10,000 hours of practice to attain a high level of musicianship. At 5 hours a day do the math.
@Fliko But yes, a great musician is flexible. By that I mean proficient in many genres because he has mastered his instrument, has kept his ears open, and his mind ready.
@Illumirage Mirrored is MOSTLY instrumentals, but there is a few tracks with vocals but the vocals are used as more of an instrument because the lyrics are indistinguishable and the vocals drenched in effects. Its not like there is a verse chorus verse and a hook, the vocals on mirrored are used to and some new textures to the sound. they kicked out the vocalist member for there new album....haha
@her0indragon I just met John at Asbury Park on October 1st, my brother and I talked to him for literally a half hour. He is an awesome chill guy, brilliant musician... told me a new Tomahawk CD is in the works!!!!!
If you didn't already realize, Battles are minimalist band so in turn Stanier is trying to keep the sound minimal, Tomahawk on the other hand are not, so there's no need to raise the cymbal.
@themu5ic You do have a point. Freeform implies no standard signature. This was typified by Ornette Coleman. The beauty of it, when done well, is the freedom it gives the performers, and the feeling of expansiveness and excitement for the listeners. The weakness was, many performers after Ornette simply weren't musicians enough to connect intelluctual and musical concepts. But, as Mingus would say, write it down. To perform precise music, read from sheets.
John Stanier i think something along the lines of to be discouraged from hitting it. Battles is all about the mechanics and breaking everything down to the bare bones to build up a wall of sound in my opinion, so nothing too over the top, just little intricacies that you will keep finding again and again. On record, i don't think stanier plays the same beat twice on futura, it's quite incredible. All you need is some hi-hat, snare and kick really.
on of the best performances that i saw here in buenos aires, when i was so depressed! hahaha, this bastards put me on he fucking sound heaven. i remember that show and i feel like a child again and again. it was incredible. i don´t that ythey came back to the stages, i hope that they make a tour on southamerica...
@byronhilton i'd say that being anybody has the potential to be a musical genius in them. it's a blend of personality, inborn talent and hard work. the scales can be tipped in favor of any, or all, of those factors, and it is the job of the person to realize his strengths and weaknesses and exploit both through practice. besides, musical genius is a relative thing.
@themu5ic I think they choose do it that way though, like as a jam rather than lay out the song as it was done in the studio -- I dunno, I'm just guessing. I've seen performances where they get right into the song as it is on the album, and then others where it takes like 10 minutes to get into an otherwise 5 minute song. I really love them for it, but respect that you don't like them. You're totally entitled to it.
there is a video (don't know where now) where Stanier verifies Gunther's claim in a press interview, although tbh, its hard to tell if he is trolling the interviewer or is being serious haha. Considering Stanier's insane awesomeness in Helmet, I wouldn't surprised if he injured himself premaritally before EP C, when he started raising the crash. Maybe just statement in change of style, new band...
@2nose919 I dont know...I mean obviously they're still a great band but Mirrored is my favorite album of all time. And I'm not saying he was the driving force behind the band, but i feel like their chemistry was near perfect and it would have been great to see all four of them mature as a band. Maybe I'm not quite used to their new album yet though
@shellyboy9 I agree that being able to play your instrument well is synonymous to being a good musician, but I disagree that being a master of your instrument and being a good musician are synonymous. I believe a good musician is someone who can communicate their idea to the world on an instrument, and while being a master makes this a much easier process, it is definitely not a process limited to people who are masters of their instruments. A great musician is someone who is flexible.
the off key piano banter is literally taking my structured theory world and destroying it! i love it! i can't stand it, but i can't stop listening to it! these guys are doing some incredible stuff with technology and skill. I'm excited to see what they conjure up live.
@Fliko Yeah man, great to see perceptive people making insightful comments about instrumental music. I've always believed great musicians are great communicators as well. Part of that is playing with emotion as well as intellect. It's all part of learning your instrument. A metronome is just a machine, and not a musician. A player piano is a note perfect machine, not a musician. Removing the humanity from music, for me, leaves it a barren excersize.
@danlikesmusicalot You're right, and I hope your love of music remains a lifelong passion. Life is long, and taste evolves. Not trying to change any opinion, just expressing mine. Nice to talk to an adult who disagrees.
@locomocioncapilar You mean Aarvo Part? In that case I should have said to me. Aarvo for me is generally more traditionally classical. Again, some say Glass's minimalism cold; I say cold like electric fire. Part's minimalizm seems more lyrical, and in THAT way accessible.
@shellyboy9 OMG, you aren't THE shellyboy9 are you? I've loved your very good music forever, and you're right, these guys are TOTALLY in it for the chicks and the cash -- chicks go mad for avante-garde math rock, right? Right?
@Immoregangsterthan Your reply seems a bit ambiguous, but you do make a point; each have been in other bands and have played other musics. I just find them, taking in the plethora of fine musicians out there, to be marginal. Think williamheltor's jazz teacher couldn't play this stuff? Think his teacher is Lang Lang or Cecil Taylor? Again, I'm just glad (and I think williamheltor is too) that instrumental music is being played. Remember, because you've just heard it doesn't make it new.
@crazybeff For me, not really, although his Music In 4 Parts has been considered by some to be so (classical, jazz, rock). His The Photographer was a turning point for him stylistically. At times he defies descrpition, although his music has always been sparse (some would say cold).
do a screen grab. boot it up in photoshop. give it some cool effects. save it to a drive and take it down to copy service and have them blow it up to poster size. voila. and it's a one-of-a-kind too.
@shellyboy9 As much as I hate to admit it, Justin Bieber does communicate with the niche that he fills, and he does have his own place in the world as a musician. Perhaps we will have to agree to disagree on this, but I do still strongly feel that the biggest part of being a great musician is communicating your ideas/emotions, and is even more important then playing your instrument like a machine. Awesome to see some really smart comments on this youtube video though.
@NUKLEUSBENZ maybe your internet is not working properly, let it load. Can't really seem to notice any out of sync here, but then again Im not in the editing business. What timeframe are we talking about?
citizencream, I said I didn't dislike them. This may not be a ringing endorsement, but there it is. Like what you like, but don't be mislead into thinking this stuff is particularly original, nor well played. That my friend is putting your head in the sand. I enjoy a lot of stuff that is highly derivative. I'm just not foolish enough to believe this is the musical future like underself. By the way citizencream, none of the people I mentioned are dead physically or musically.
@shellyboy9 ive heard of the same study, my jazz teacher has put in his 10,000 hours. but i think that being a master of an instrument and being good musicians are the same thing
@shellyboy9 i like to think i respect everyone's opinion, even if i disagree. Your opinion doesn't in any way change my feelings towards Battles (battles just aren't to your taste as far as i can see) though if i'm honest if i disliked a song so much i wouldn't bother writing a whole paragraph about why i don't like the artist, it seems really troll like to me, just sayin. let's just all learn to respect each other's opinion and get on with our lives :)
@Fliko @Fliko I'm not a musician on any level & would love to hear your opinion about something.. My mom dated the guitarist of a well known blues/boogie-rock band when i was a kid. He loved telling me how rare "true musical geniuses" are, with Prince & Sting being the two he mentioned the most. He said a "true musical genius" is someone who plays 10 or more major instruments at a Master's level without professional training. Is there any truth to that story or was he just making it up?
But straying from the original isn't cheating. It's just HARD. Hard to do so in a creative manner without losing the organic, visceral thread of the music and its concepts, while sustaining the audience. Jazz musicians have been doing it for years. Composers have realized that music and math are kissing cousins for centuries (just listen to Mozart and his pre and post masters).
John Staniers' drumming is how drummers wish theirs to be...without most of them knowing it ;-)
+dashwig It's how I wish most drummers would be, too. Too many kids trying to play lead like they're Neil Peart.
mason s. more drumming should be like neil / there's a lot of man-bun flip flop wearing lame-os playing floor toms with a spatula saying they're drummers - drumming needs more fills and more flash / stanier does it correctly, though - he's right on / his drum sound and beats are awesome
@@mediumstudio No idea what the hell man buns have to with drumming. You made your own point irrelevant, ya grumpy old fuck.
damn the way the loop chugs back in at 4:25 is so nice. what a good band man
Please tell me why the rest of the world cannot recognize BRILLIANCE like this performance.
Yes!
Alrighty!
If I could share this particular band 1 million time I would!!! I want you guys to find out about them also!
*watch?v=js6TBze6vNA*
Like these people!
Be sure you youtube that video
We do just not enough of us lol.
@Jet Plane Noise? Maybe to your baby ears
i come back to this performance every now and then, still blew me away, like most take away shows does . holy fuck they're good.
Yeah but Holy Fuck are very good, too
The entire band is amazing. As a "drummer" I find so many things in John Stanier's drumming. Really terrific musician.
That snare sound!!!!
I forgot I had this song in my favorites playlist on Spotify. When it started playing I didn't know what it was (phone in pocket, headphones on), but let it continue. As soon as 0:53 came around I legit made the stanky face and head bobbing hard from how taken back I was. Still sounds amazing as it did the first time.
Sounds like a good time
These guys are all really talented musicians,This track is groovy as hell
this is absolutely sick. crazy instrumental shit.
This is by far the best Take Away Show. I love this guys,...
I am so amazed. I need to invent new words to express what this song makes in my guts.
I don't know why but this song kinda reminds me of like Mordor and the husel and busel of orcs building weapons and you can hear a big fire dragon in the background starting to stir in the depths😮 I f!@#$% love this song!
wow when it goes into that riff at about 5.30.... amazinggggggg the echo of the room, ahhhh so good
probably one of the coolest songs about a font ever.
I remember years of bleeding fingers. I started guitar lessons when I was 13. I played in bands for 25 years. For the first 10 years I practiced 5 hours a day. I still sucked in comparison to real musicianship, but I became proficient. I can still recognize the few from the fakers within seconds. Opinionated? Yes, and harsh when it comes to musicians and vocalists (yes, I took singing lessons too). Whether you love or hate Timberlake or GaGa, (I don't dislike), they put in the time.
That was by far the best performance of this I've seen. Best quality video as well.
Body movin, body movin
with the a-1 sound sound so soothing.
What can I say? How nicer a way can I say expand your musical horizons? It's good to see some bands attempt to play instrumental music, which does require musicianship. Bands today don't start for the music, but for the girls/guys and the money. It's practice on your instrument, not rehearsal that makes a good musician. One guy took a survey of great musicians and found it took a minimum of 10,000 hours of practice to attain a high level of musicianship. At 5 hours a day do the math.
@Fliko But yes, a great musician is flexible. By that I mean proficient in many genres because he has mastered his instrument, has kept his ears open, and his mind ready.
@IAmTheSwordmaster Same here! I just love these guys. They are playing at the Pitchfork festival this year and I am so psyched!
Christ.what a fucking performance.the perfect band.
Battles wins the battle of glory !
one of the finest Battles performances....
1:15 the lights turn into a evil little robot.
awesome video
Why did I expect Battles to play acoustic on their Tale Away Show? Well, despite the electric choice, this is still outstanding
@Illumirage Mirrored is MOSTLY instrumentals, but there is a few tracks with vocals but the vocals are used as more of an instrument because the lyrics are indistinguishable and the vocals drenched in effects. Its not like there is a verse chorus verse and a hook, the vocals on mirrored are used to and some new textures to the sound. they kicked out the vocalist member for there new album....haha
Wow! I really like this. The gated reverb on the snare is so Phil Collins. Great guitar and synth sounds.
The reverb from the room makes it even better
Great Band!!!
watched for the umpteenth time.
MIND IS STILL BLOWN
What an inspiring place to jam!
Come back please!!!
outstanding, fresh and interesting...
@AstrayVision probably Ableton, 'cause he's using the Akai APC, which is a MIDI-controller/sampler for ableton.
@her0indragon I just met John at Asbury Park on October 1st, my brother and I talked to him for literally a half hour. He is an awesome chill guy, brilliant musician... told me a new Tomahawk CD is in the works!!!!!
love the natural reverb in that hall.
If you didn't already realize, Battles are minimalist band so in turn Stanier is trying to keep the sound minimal, Tomahawk on the other hand are not, so there's no need to raise the cymbal.
I get the urge to listen to this performance at least once a day.
Battles... You have one more fan. Humbly yours
dang that looks fun. love the texture and overall jammitude.
One of THEE dopest drummers drumming today.
jesus the snare sounds fucking amazing
I think it's the size of the room. If I was going to sample a snare to use, this would be it.
THIS IS RAD! And brings me marvellous memories from Primavera Sound 2011...
Funny you should say that mate because these guys were the highlight for me in 2017 (I think) Primavera, in Porto. Cosmic
Weird. Probably why I love it!
It is so fun to play a trap set. I did it with broken arms in Mexico City. I’ve still got my Squeking (Speed King) pedal.
Loved these guys when they played in Lincoln.
awesome!
@themu5ic You do have a point. Freeform implies no standard signature. This was typified by Ornette Coleman. The beauty of it, when done well, is the freedom it gives the performers, and the feeling of expansiveness and excitement for the listeners. The weakness was, many performers after Ornette simply weren't musicians enough to connect intelluctual and musical concepts. But, as Mingus would say, write it down. To perform precise music, read from sheets.
Años sin Battles y el mismo resultado. Son geniales.
John Stanier i think something along the lines of to be discouraged from hitting it.
Battles is all about the mechanics and breaking everything down to the bare bones to build up a wall of sound in my opinion, so nothing too over the top, just little intricacies that you will keep finding again and again. On record, i don't think stanier plays the same beat twice on futura, it's quite incredible.
All you need is some hi-hat, snare and kick really.
on of the best performances that i saw here in buenos aires, when i was so depressed! hahaha, this bastards put me on he fucking sound heaven.
i remember that show and i feel like a child again and again. it was incredible.
i don´t that ythey came back to the stages, i hope that they make a tour on southamerica...
@byronhilton i'd say that being anybody has the potential to be a musical genius in them. it's a blend of personality, inborn talent and hard work. the scales can be tipped in favor of any, or all, of those factors, and it is the job of the person to realize his strengths and weaknesses and exploit both through practice. besides, musical genius is a relative thing.
Ian Williams has been doing the only interesting things with a guitar since 1998
So Very Wonderful.Is an understatement.
@themu5ic I think they choose do it that way though, like as a jam rather than lay out the song as it was done in the studio -- I dunno, I'm just guessing. I've seen performances where they get right into the song as it is on the album, and then others where it takes like 10 minutes to get into an otherwise 5 minute song. I really love them for it, but respect that you don't like them. You're totally entitled to it.
there is a video (don't know where now) where Stanier verifies Gunther's claim in a press interview, although tbh, its hard to tell if he is trolling the interviewer or is being serious haha. Considering Stanier's insane awesomeness in Helmet, I wouldn't surprised if he injured himself premaritally before EP C, when he started raising the crash. Maybe just statement in change of style, new band...
@2nose919 I dont know...I mean obviously they're still a great band but Mirrored is my favorite album of all time. And I'm not saying he was the driving force behind the band, but i feel like their chemistry was near perfect and it would have been great to see all four of them mature as a band. Maybe I'm not quite used to their new album yet though
CANNOT WAIT for their next album
le batteur est passionné, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire..
@shellyboy9 I agree that being able to play your instrument well is synonymous to being a good musician, but I disagree that being a master of your instrument and being a good musician are synonymous. I believe a good musician is someone who can communicate their idea to the world on an instrument, and while being a master makes this a much easier process, it is definitely not a process limited to people who are masters of their instruments. A great musician is someone who is flexible.
absolutely amazing
Love that melody that kicks in at 5:32
yet another amazing show :)
drummer looks like he's having lots of fun xDD
nice vid as always la blogothèque!
@Illumirage check out their last album mirrors, its tight
Awesome band.
john stanier is a MUTANT. timing? no, john stanier.
He's a robot
the off key piano banter is literally taking my structured theory world and destroying it! i love it! i can't stand it, but i can't stop listening to it! these guys are doing some incredible stuff with technology and skill. I'm excited to see what they conjure up live.
@Fliko Yeah man, great to see perceptive people making insightful comments about instrumental music. I've always believed great musicians are great communicators as well. Part of that is playing with emotion as well as intellect. It's all part of learning your instrument. A metronome is just a machine, and not a musician. A player piano is a note perfect machine, not a musician. Removing the humanity from music, for me, leaves it a barren excersize.
I wonder if they'll be keeping their new album every four years streak going. 🤔😉
Yes, but 2023 album will be just Stanier.
@@totaltotalmonkey is that a joke or are you for real?
Great show
@danlikesmusicalot You're right, and I hope your love of music remains a lifelong passion. Life is long, and taste evolves. Not trying to change any opinion, just expressing mine. Nice to talk to an adult who disagrees.
@locomocioncapilar You mean Aarvo Part? In that case I should have said to me. Aarvo for me is generally more traditionally classical. Again, some say Glass's minimalism cold; I say cold like electric fire. Part's minimalizm seems more lyrical, and in THAT way accessible.
Seen this guy open for Tool.. and now he's one of my biggest influences. I just hope he knows that
whatever hi hats john stanier uses must the greatest ones in the world
Sounds incredible!
Damn that was SICK!!!!!!!
@shellyboy9 OMG, you aren't THE shellyboy9 are you? I've loved your very good music forever, and you're right, these guys are TOTALLY in it for the chicks and the cash -- chicks go mad for avante-garde math rock, right? Right?
@Immoregangsterthan Your reply seems a bit ambiguous, but you do make a point; each have been in other bands and have played other musics. I just find them, taking in the plethora of fine musicians out there, to be marginal. Think williamheltor's jazz teacher couldn't play this stuff? Think his teacher is Lang Lang or Cecil Taylor? Again, I'm just glad (and I think williamheltor is too) that instrumental music is being played. Remember, because you've just heard it doesn't make it new.
This "Take away show" are available for downloading or some? the sound quality is amazing
where are they? the acoustics sound mad cool, especially the drumset
Woa, what is this place called?
@crazybeff For me, not really, although his Music In 4 Parts has been considered by some to be so (classical, jazz, rock). His The Photographer was a turning point for him stylistically. At times he defies descrpition, although his music has always been sparse (some would say cold).
do a screen grab. boot it up in photoshop. give it some cool effects. save it to a drive and take it down to copy service and have them blow it up to poster size. voila.
and it's a one-of-a-kind too.
Why HD when you can't keep the cam and focus steady?
@shellyboy9 As much as I hate to admit it, Justin Bieber does communicate with the niche that he fills, and he does have his own place in the world as a musician. Perhaps we will have to agree to disagree on this, but I do still strongly feel that the biggest part of being a great musician is communicating your ideas/emotions, and is even more important then playing your instrument like a machine. Awesome to see some really smart comments on this youtube video though.
@NUKLEUSBENZ maybe your internet is not working properly, let it load. Can't really seem to notice any out of sync here, but then again Im not in the editing business. What timeframe are we talking about?
citizencream, I said I didn't dislike them. This may not be a ringing endorsement, but there it is. Like what you like, but don't be mislead into thinking this stuff is particularly original, nor well played. That my friend is putting your head in the sand. I enjoy a lot of stuff that is highly derivative. I'm just not foolish enough to believe this is the musical future like underself. By the way citizencream, none of the people I mentioned are dead physically or musically.
@shellyboy9 ive heard of the same study, my jazz teacher has put in his 10,000 hours. but i think that being a master of an instrument and being good musicians are the same thing
whats that crash doing way up there?
Love it ! ! !
This just makes me wanna make some music.
@her0indragon Haha, curious is all but of all the members why him?
FOCUS!
Does he do it on many other songs though? Read some of the interviews yeah? And if you had a shoulder injury...would you put a crash that high?
@shellyboy9 i like to think i respect everyone's opinion, even if i disagree.
Your opinion doesn't in any way change my feelings towards Battles (battles just aren't to your taste as far as i can see)
though if i'm honest if i disliked a song so much i wouldn't bother writing a whole paragraph about why i don't like the artist, it seems really troll like to me, just sayin.
let's just all learn to respect each other's opinion and get on with our lives :)
@Illumirage he means mirrored
@Fliko @Fliko I'm not a musician on any level & would love to hear your opinion about something.. My mom dated the guitarist of a well known blues/boogie-rock band when i was a kid. He loved telling me how rare "true musical geniuses" are, with Prince & Sting being the two he mentioned the most. He said a "true musical genius" is someone who plays 10 or more major instruments at a Master's level without professional training. Is there any truth to that story or was he just making it up?
Then how could this explain Tomahawk where the cymbals are at normal height?
But straying from the original isn't cheating. It's just HARD. Hard to do so in a creative manner without losing the organic, visceral thread of the music and its concepts, while sustaining the audience. Jazz musicians have been doing it for years. Composers have realized that music and math are kissing cousins for centuries (just listen to Mozart and his pre and post masters).