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- Marking 50 years after Israel captured East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza, Conflict Zone is in Israel and the West Bank to record a series of special interviews. This week, Tim Sebastian meets the former Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister Ehud Barak. Why is the peace process such a failure? Join the debate below.
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Conflict Zone is Deutsche Welle's top political interview. Every week, our hosts Tim Sebastian and Michel Friedman are face-to-face with global decision-makers, seeking straight answers to straight questions, putting the spotlight on controversial issues and calling the powerful to account.
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I like Barak in this interview. So straightforward and direct.
I liked his interview on the BBC post 911
When he said something like : " 11 September, is good for Israe ".
After watching this I have a New respect for Barak.
as a right wing Israeli, i just want to say that Tim is doing a great job, he isn't supposed to make these interviews easy. he's always well prepered and takes these interviews very seriously.
Ye I really like that show...I wish Tim will make a head to head interview ...between prime minister Netanyahu and the another candidate of the next elections
one can ask difficult questions without being combative and interrupting the guest
This should be shown in journalism classes on how NOT to interview someone. I really hate it when the person who is being interviewed is trying to talk, but the interviewer just keeps on interrupting. It’s very rude and unprofessional, and common sense would tell most people that once someone finishes saying what they want to say, then it’s your turn to talk.
The best defense for Israel is to review Memri videos of Arab politicians ---they blame this situation on PA---even according to them Israel was willing to make peace and give many concessions ---The Arabs used Islam as call to destroy Israel----time for truth for the sake of truth
The program is called Conflict Zone for a very obvious reason and all his guests understand what they are getting into, so maybe it is time for you to get that clear in your own mind and not look for some false notion of pure objective journalism. There is certainly a value in putting everyone in the hot seat so to speak and watch them try to respond with real arguments. Whether you agree with Barak or not we can all clearly see that he was able to withstand and push back effectively.
very true
There is no rule against interruption. The journalistic style is about interruption people are deflecting. Its a good style cos people go off on a tangent. Dont like it, dont come on the programme.
@@deficrypto1234 true, but it’s not about rules. It’s about manners. For example, there’s no rule that says that I can’t belch in someone’s face. I just don’t do it because I know it’s impolite.
Very tiring to listen to Tim. He keeps on interrupting and never seems to be interested in an answer. Respect for Ehud Barak. Never lost his cool. Smart guy. Good answers.
Actually this is Tim’s attitude towards any guest! He interviews Palestinians the same way he interviews Israelis.
@@AJolie009 Nevertheless, very tiring
@@waccsadac No I agree. I’ve just noticed that he has this hostile approach with everyone.
@@titaniumspecial4207 It’s aggressive but effective nonetheless
He spent decades of his life risking being shot and blown up in wars and operations. Tim Sebastien isn't going to unnerve him
Ehud Barak, a very smart man. Well done for coming on top at the end of this tough interview.
Tim Sebastian is at it again. I find his style so offensive. Has he ever taken to task so aggressively Muslim Arabs living in Israel/Palestine? If so please give me the video links on TH-cam.
You do not know what you are talking about. As 'tyranny' was first recognized as a term in the Greek city states if you are a Greek you should understand and use the term correctly.
He has.
This is not an interview, but posturing and lecture. Tim. That was too combative. Shame! I would like to hear both sides of the argument.
Well, Barrack doesn’t need to
Be lectured by him. I’ve got to hand it to him though, he stayed cool in this situation. If that had been me, I’d probably be like “Please let me finish sir!!”
This is the format of Conflict Zone. It’s meant to be a spirited debate with tough questions and I think it makes for a good discussion. It’s not personal! He is just as tough with Fatah officials and pretty much anyone he interviews.
It’s obvious that Mr. Sebastian supports Israel. That’s not in question. He is simply trying to be as impartial as possible. The rest of the mainstream media does really softball interviews that are really good for nothing. Politicians must be challenged and held to account even if it can become uncomfortable at times.
All we have heard for 70 years is Tel a Viv's side of the story.
@P th-cam.com/users/IfAmericansKnewVideo
Dats d journalistic style. Dont like it, dont come on the programme.
Tim is full of nonsense too combative, respect to Ehud for keeping cool.
I think dw should find another interviewer who isn't biassed to Israel
Yep , another pro Arabs😂
Check how he interview Palestinian politicians, he is pretty harsh to everyone. You don’t want objectivity, you just want to silence your opponents and hide atrocities of Israel government.
@@mykolakryvtsun597 Objectivity doesn't exist unless you are a hypocrite.
Israel is an illegal occupier and apartheid state. there is nothing wrong in being critical of that.
@@mykolakryvtsun597 I watched he interviewed Jordanian MP. It was like an interrogation.
Tim tries to get a reaction or attack but he puts himself in a corner sometimes. He said schools for example but the whole world saw images of rockets hidden in schools. I think when he tries hitting israel there isn't much so he distorts it
With the PA he's very friendly with and that causes him to hold back.
The Jordanian MP was good although he could of hit harder.
Did we? Can you kindly provide the evidence of these rockets in schools.
Well, to be perfectly honest in my humble opinion without being sentimental, ofcourse without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in distinct perspective and without condemning anyone's view and by trying to make it objectified by considering each and everyone's valid opinion. I honestly believe that I vividly dont have anything to say. Thankyou😀😀😀
..hehe..fantastico..you should go in politic ;) lol
Brilliant
Once the Palestinians will embrace reality and will agree to receive all they CAN as opposed to all which they WANT there will be peace.
Alex's Channel once you stop hating us , we will have peace.
Shalom!!
Android Robot
I do not hate Palestinians and most Israelis do not as well. However, terrorism and violence will be answered accordingly. The PA and Hamas OFFICIAL and active incitement for killing innocent Israeli CIVILIANS in the Palestinian media and paying killed or imprisoned terrorists families with CIVILIAN blood on their hands does not help the situation. Mar-Salam
honestreporting.com/hot-topics/palestinian-incitement/
th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=Palestinian+Incitement en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund
@@ariesfirst
You seem to forget that Israel is still occupying the West banks and Ghaza . What do you expect the Palestinians to do ? To just site and wait while you are grabbing
more of their lands . You kicked from their homes and villages more than 750.000 Palestinians in 1947/48 ...... Building settlements, imprisoning children, shooting
at children and ambulances ...cutting water and electricity....making the lifes of palestinians miserable ....... You don't want peace .
i love this pm and his good heart
Lets see Tim goes hand speaks like that with hamas leaders.. rofl..
He does. This is his style of interviewing. I have seen him do this to Palestinians too
Ehud Barak is a good man. If only PA leadership cared for its people
This is 2nd round.
Great interview. Thankyou.
Thank you for watching!
Its We do
Cant watch this Tim.
Dont then.
Why?
You haven't thought about this much have you.. he's crazy. He's talking about 1967 then tries to make an argument about it by describing 1982. Pulls up something about yitzchak shamir in the context of ehud barak's government camp david accords that is post 2000. And he tries to criticise israel for having better weapons and it not being a fair fight. Ehud Barak is not as good as somebody like Bennett who makese the morals really clear.
Deny, deny, deny!
very poor interview the questions are with an expected answer .is not an impartial is like accusing
Pan-Arab, Moroccan dictator Hassan 2 has helped Israel before the 1967 war by giving the Mossad the audio recording of the 1965 Arab summit that was held in Casablanca. In return, Israelis joined the assassination off a Mehdi Ben Barka who disappeared on 29 October 1965. He was a Moroccan politician, head of the left-wing National Union of Popular Forces (UNPF) and secretary of the Tricontinental Conference. An opponent of French Imperialism and King Hassan II, he "disappeared" in Paris in 1965.
BRIBED..BY THE WEST...
I love watching Tim Sebastian ,he has facts .
He is trying to put words into the mouth of the interviewee. Poor training. Rather poor. So and so said this. So and so said that. Sentences taken out of context. And interrupting the speaker. Poor and lacking in courtesy.
Barak You have another opportunity to be prime minister once more. it`s the time.
You won't find any change if he did come back. Would still be top priority to stop iran getting nukes and stop it's proxies. Would still offer the same land to palestinian's that was offered last year with none of jerusalem and not uprooting all the settlements.
israel is fighting for survival for a long time and wants pease with the arabs at their cost, unfortunatly, the wound done by israel to the palastinians is unrepairable. this has resulted in rejection of israel by all arabs and muslims. the example pease with egypt and jordan, did not do much i.e israelis can not even walk in streets of cairo or amman.
Its not true. Israel is under no existential threat.
😳😳😳
How the R sound is pronounced in Hebrew?
Like غ in Arabic.
Normal he just have weird accent
Like in French or German essentially
This is what u get when u have a low intelligence journalist interviewing a HIGHLY INTELLIGENT statesman. Tim Sebastian simply cannot understand the heavy strategic mind of someone like Ehud Barak. I feel sorry for Sebastian....poor guy is lost.
If you don't let the guy answer, you are just accusing. Unprofessional.
Atleast way more sensible than Bibi and Naftali, but he goes into the elucidations that every Israeli politicans and internet trolls do.
Tim had him by the balls.
He always has everyone. The format of the interview is simple, if someone is giving a useless answer that conflicts with well documented facts it's no point to let them continue.
Barak you are a great leader.
Thank you for the interesting interview and explaining very clearly the complex situation.
Sure, indeed this intervieuwer seems to not being interested in answers..keep interupting..and he do this also with Palestinians,,so noo biass, srry ! But true, he is a good smart intervieuwer, if he put patient and wait a few seconds to let peoples finish their answer..However its great and very smart..think about it why !? ;) & its never boring
He needs water
Barak is a great man and an incredible leader
Do not limit only in Israel barrack, look at Syrian war were women children and Innocent civilian were bomb, dont b one sided
The discussion is not about Syria but Israel. Stay focused.
Ehud Barak is morally right.
This is the real Hard Talk! Tim is great.
German public and their broadcast should be ashamed of themselves and their history. Why do not raise these questions about British occupied territories all around the world?
We had no choice, they attacked Israel and we DEFEND OUR HOMELAND !
A day after the declaration of independence of the State of Israel, armies of five Arab countries, Egypt, Syria, Trans Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq, invaded Israel. This marked the beginning of the War of Independence. Arab states have jointly waged four full scale wars against Israel:
1948 War of Independence
1956 Sinai War
1967 Six Day War
1973 Yom Kippur War
Despite the numerical superiority of the Arab armies, Israel defended itself each time and won. After each war Israeli army withdrew from most of the areas it captured (see maps). This is unprecedented in World history and shows Israel's willingness to reach peace even at the risk of fighting for its very existence each time anew.
Note that with Judea and Samaria Israel is only 40 miles wide. Thus, Israel can be crossed from the Mediterranean coast to the Eastern border at Jordan river within two hours of driving.
Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi
Israel ,Judah and Jerusalem our Ancient Jewish Kingdom Reigns Forever :-)~
From the perspective of many Israelis, the dynamics of Israeli-Palestinian relations since the signing of the Oslo agreement confirmed their worst fears: that the Oslo process would give a militant enemy the tools and launching areas for bloodthirsty terrorist attacks against Israelis.
Very early on during the establishment of the security services of the Palestinian Authority, it was noted by Israeli observers that the number of Palestinians in arms and the types of armaments being brought into Palestinian Authority territory were significantly exceeding the limits established by the agreements. This led to the suspicion that Arafat was constructing an offensive army rather than a police force.
But the greatest Israeli anger was elicited by the fact that the Palestinian Authority was doing very little to prevent terrorist attacks emanating from its territory. It refused to take steps towards disarming terrorist militias, permitted terrorist organizations to operate open offices in its territory, and either refused to arrest terrorists or would adopt a policy of “revolving door” arrests-placing terrorists in prison for a handful of days and then releasing them.
As terrorist attacks against Israelis exacted a heavy toll in civilians killed and wounded, the entire conception that had been presented to Israelis - of the Oslo process creating efficient Palestinian security teams that would be better than Israeli soldiers in combating terrorism - collapsed. Palestinian explanations that they “couldn’t be expected to be collaborators and fight against their own people” rang hollow to Israeli ears in the face of civilian deaths.
Many incidents caused the Israeli public to wonder whether Arafat and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) had ever truly intended to lay down arms and seek negotiated peace agreements rather than armed struggle: immense arms supplies to the Palestinian Authority were made public; captured documents indicated Palestinian Authority support for terrorist infrastructures; and Palestinian policemen took up arms against Israeli soldiers. For Israelis, this was the ultimate breach of agreement, and terrorist attack on the Sovereign Land the Ancient Hebrew Kingdom-From the perspective of many Israelis, the dynamics of Israeli-Palestinian relations since the signing of the Oslo agreement confirmed their worst fears: that the Oslo process would give a militant enemy the tools and launching areas for bloodthirsty terrorist attacks against Israelis.
Very early on during the establishment of the security services of the Palestinian Authority, it was noted by Israeli observers that the number of Palestinians in arms and the types of armaments being brought into Palestinian Authority territory were significantly exceeding the limits established by the agreements. This led to the suspicion that Arafat was constructing an offensive army rather than a police force.
But the greatest Israeli anger was elicited by the fact that the Palestinian Authority was doing very little to prevent terrorist attacks emanating from its territory. It refused to take steps towards disarming terrorist militias, permitted terrorist organizations to operate open offices in its territory, and either refused to arrest terrorists or would adopt a policy of “revolving door” arrests-placing terrorists in prison for a handful of days and then releasing them.
As terrorist attacks against Israelis exacted a heavy toll in civilians killed and wounded, the entire conception that had been presented to Israelis - of the Oslo process creating efficient Palestinian security teams that would be better than Israeli soldiers in combating terrorism - collapsed. Palestinian explanations that they “couldn’t be expected to be collaborators and fight against their own people” rang hollow to Israeli ears in the face of civilian deaths.
Many incidents caused the Israeli public to wonder whether Arafat and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) had ever truly intended to lay down arms and seek negotiated peace agreements rather than armed struggle: immense arms supplies to the Palestinian Authority were made public; captured documents indicated Palestinian Authority support for terrorist infrastructures; and Palestinian policemen took up arms against Israeli soldiers. For Israelis, this was the ultimate breach of agreement, rendering it moot. The deeply dishonesty are on the Pals.
Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi
Israel ,Judah and Jerusalem our Ancient Jewish Kingdom Reigns Forever :-)~
+ben meyer Bullshit. You stole the land you live on, which was never yours. The story you tell is as valid as a Bible tale (in other words, not in the slightest). You can believe what you want, but this does not change any facts.
If you steal a car and repaint it, put new tires on and a plaque in it featuring your name, it does not change by one scintilla the fact that YOU STOLE IT.
Zion is a genocidal nation. It must be wiped from the pages of history.
A very one sided interview by this fellow Sebastien.
I like Tim Sebastian,Great Interviewer
Thanks DW Channel
Tim Sebastian., you are obviously biased, pro-arab and hate Israel, so it's a waste of time to give you an interview with an Israeli politician .
Ehud Barak was one of our greatest prime ministers ever.He was brave to offer an amazingly generous peace deal to Arafat and got rejected because Arafat was never a real partner for peace
I suggest you look at his interviews with Arabs before you type out ignorance
First of all, I wish I could apologize for the rudeness of others toward you and your country. And I agree. Ehud Barak is a great man, and his peace proposal was probably the most generous ever. However, it was rejected by Arafat because it fell short of dismantling the state of Israel. Arafat made it seem like all it would take for peace was a restoration of the 1967 borders, but in reality was never willing to accept Israel’s right to exist. While I think highly of Netanyahu, I can’t picture him offering similar terms. Looks like that ship has sailed for good. ערן פוגל
Yes,he is .This man now trying to repent past deeds of his forefathers in the process of appeasing Arabs and hating jews.
No he is not ...just a tough guy
@Simon Stauber a few months? How much did Netanyahu pay you?
The Fruedian Slips are out of this world
It's not fair of you to call it that, English is his second language and as someone who speaks three languages I can tell you that it is really hard to speak correctly in another language especially when someone keeps interrupting you.
@@ilbiap4862 He expresses himself pretty fluently. I speak English as a third language and don't relate to what you're saying.
How did you make it Tim Sebastian, and survive the Anti-semitic accusation?
wow he is actually accepting the fact that Israel is getting close to being an apartheid state.
He's not very eloquent.. he means that if israel rules the entire west bank and they all vote in israeli elections. But nobody is planning that! The "palestinians" have their own elections. both in the west bank and gaza.
@@boliusabol822 i dont think so. He already agrees that the situation is close to apartheid. He says it with clear words. Having same election does not make an apartheid state.
@@Valkyri3Z Apartheid is a term used to refer to old south africa and to apply it elsewhere is a bit ambiguous. He has discussed his views on this before and I don't think you understood him. By apartheid he means a state without democracy by which he is referring specifically to majority vote. All the Israelis associated with Govt have solutions to avoid that occurrence. That's why he referred to a one state scenario. He is talking about if one state and one government. So he means very much about elections and where somebody is a citizen. You might have noticed that he's not very eloquent. Ehud Barak has never claimed for example that israeli hospitals don't treat arabs. And they do.
@@boliusabol822 . Apartheid is a term that can be used for ANY state that discriminates people based on their color , race or ethnicity. There is no ambiguity there.None other than Nelsen Mandela has called Israel an apartheid state. Israel DOES treat Arabs Palestinians differently thetefore all major human rights organisation INCLUDING Israeli organisation calls Israel an Apartheid state.
@@Valkyri3Z BLM activists have been making riots in america claiming that america discriminates against them. So you could say they think america is an apartheid state if you play that game. Somebody called Tyrone may well have less opportunities for employment as people might have some prejudice. So that's all expected for any country. Under that definition of apartheid, all countries are. When people speak of "discrimination" they mean different things. There is no question that if a group in a minority rules over a group that is the majority then some may say oh that's apartheid because it can be said that the majority is discriminated against by not being represented in govt, or having others rule imposed on them, or as a parallel with apartheid south africa, and if you look at the context that is what ehud barak was talking about. I've seen him interviewed on it he has said it a few times about the numbers/demographics..
Thank you, to PEACE and SECURITY.
NOT FOR LONG..
God Settlements and bad settlements ;)
Am yisrael chai
עם ישראל להתעורר לבחור בזליכה להנהגת המדינה ואוליי המציאות שלנו תשתנה לטובה גם הממשלה הנוכחית כמו הקודמת מוכרת אותנו לטייקונים כמו כן הם מסיחים את דעתנו מהדברים החשובים ביותר שהם עם ישראל מאוחד ובטוח בארצינו ווו ווו
Israel must power..struggle..war 1967 1973 israel won what happen Turki..erdogan
The interviewer is awful and doesn't ask anything in context
May be he is no British,his color show somthing els.
Now, where is the interview of Tim with Hamas leader? hahahaha. I agree with trump on one thing- biased european media
Tim Sebastian is a barbaric anti-israeli, extremely biased interviewer. Barak is great in this interview. Hard to stay settle against this kind of behavior. Well done
This interviewer is shameful. So misleading. Long live Israel.
Problem of this guy he like to entecepting while the enteview is trying to narrate.
Three words...!! SHIREEN ABU AKLEH!!!
Save Syrian to save life,
Barak said is clearly clever enough, a territories state 100%
Fantastic interviewer. Too bad Ehud Barak does not want to admit to his own statements and status of occupation internationally.
Let the man speak ffs
He barely speaks English
It is quite clear; land lost in battle cannot be won back on table. He does not want to take a moral perspective because he is well aware of the immorality of his position. His principle is quite clear; might is right. Well so be it. We should remember these words when the tables turn...
What a stupid question at the beginning of the video. Why bother making yet another report whack asks the same question again and again while avoiding the obvious question of active colonialism in a post-colonial era?
🇵🇸Palestine will be free
Never was, never will
Ehud Barak a horrible Prime Minister this guy almost gave all the land to the Palestinians but as soldier my respect, why keep saying occupation, we didn't occupy anything we recuperated our land and we haven't still finished. we want all Gaza and Judea and Samaria