Tuvok thinking: Fascinating, phasers don't usually make people appear; they make them disappear. Also Tuvok thinking: Why haven't I instituted a covert communication procedure among the crew in the event of something like this happening? It doesn't seem logical for me to not think of that.
If I were him, I'd be thinking, "How did a trained security officer have their weapon so easily stolen and why did I not put up any resistance to that? Was resistance truly futile?" Shame, Tuvok! Shame!
Tuvok is a very thorough and efficient security officer. I find it a little disheartening that he didn't have various security protocols trained into the crew for such incursions where crewmembers unable to directly speak could use more indirect methods to notify of an emergency.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 I don't think their brainwaves are monitored constantly. That seems to usually require specialist equipment. It's also possible that Tuvok did have such a thing in place and Seven used it here. She disarmed him with almost zero effort and he showed little surprise (even for a Vulcan) that there was an intruder in the room with them.
everything in the Delta Quadrant is new, he can only prepare them for conventional threats. The crew apart from Seven and the Doctor didn't even realize the aliens were there. Seven also had to act quickly without alerting anyone.
Basically, a "safe word" - I.e. "Cmdr. Tuvok, the 'Paralex Imbalance' requires me to reconfigure the relay...' Tuvok could just say, "Ah, I understand. Proceed" and then not be too surprised by whatever happens next. Kirk and Spock had that one down almost a century earlier - hours may seem like days.
Neat to see the security department actually being effective in this episode. Weird that none of the engineers in the room noticed she was doing something suspicious though.
Seven of Nine had free range of engineering. The only one who could keep up with her was Torres. Anything she did would have been observed for a second or two, but ultimately ignored after a while.
They were all undergoing painful experimentation. Seven was the last of their concerns. She goes in and out of engineering all the time anyways, at the request of various senior staff. They all probably just assumed someone sent her (including Torres.) and were in too much pain to think further on the subject.
@@ClickBeetleTV The lessons probably hurt more than the Alien experiments. Especially after she came back from the Gladiator ship having been taught to fight.
Yes I would agree. I believe the mark of a good series is not how well they handle the "Big Story arc" but if there were any memorable "regular" episodes in a series.
Tuvok: "Security Officer's Log, Supplemental: Seven of Nine has shown brilliance in identifying and covertly negating threats to ship security. It would be logical to include her in all future security program reviews and training."
These guys were some of the most loathsome villains ever in Trek, and they only had one episode. Give me the Romulans and their constant psyops any day over these a-holes. This was a different kind of evil.
@@billybegood466 The solanogen based lifeforms that amputated Riker's arm? The ones that made weird clicky noises and turned one crewmember's blood into polymer?
@@dmanc85 That was a good episode! Nothing wrong with re-using a basic premise if you can explore the topic with a new crew and see how they react. The Enterprise-D crew opted for a covert action to rescue a crew member and seal the rift. The Voyager crew took a more ... obstinate approach.
@@ithinkitsaurus Seven can see them and their experiments. Tuvok's security chief. It was illogical for her to NOT know that he would detect anything she attempted to achieve. She compromised herself and the crew by not incorporating this obvious detriment into her plan to help the crew.
@@danielhausser8038 Tuvok had no idea what was going on. How could "he might have tried something on his own" when he had no indications that something was awry? Seven's plan was flawed from the beginning. This was the best outcome she could've asked for. They got rid of the aliens and are now aware of their technology and existence.
A pal and I used to go to a Dublin pub that had a vaguely Seven-ish character behind the counter. When she got to know us, she'd hold up two fingers to ascertain if it was going to be the regular order - two pints of Guinness - so my pal affectionately nicknamed her One of Two.
@@lenkagamine4145 Tuvok could have held them at gunpoint. Is there a reason 7 didnt shoot and reveal the other two? Clearly they can be held and arrested after being shot.
@@leesweets4110 Well theres three of them, and likely more around the rest of the ship. Perhaps they were concerned of inciting them to greater violence. Also, handing the weapon off to somebody else would give them an opportunity to do something for the brief time while not being held at gunpoint.
I love how Tuvok starts moving the instant he hears "I assure you..." He immediately knows she is lying, and acts on it. No messing around, no second guessing, no talking to the Captain or First Officer. Just does his job immediately and efficiently.
And yet he reacts like a complete rookie when Seven goes for his phasor. He just stands there and lets her take it the weapon without using any of his superior Vulcan strength or reflexes to even attempt to knock her hand to the side, take a step back, or any of the other dozens of real world techniques security and LEOs are taught to prevent that exact situation.
I find it funny that people automatically assume she was just brought in for fan service, not acting ability. She had been an actress for nearly 7 years before being hired to play Seven.
@@danielhaire6677people assume that because of the catsuit. If Jeri Ryan had played along that's what she would have been reduced to, but thankfully she's an outstanding actress and managed to take the role of Seven in a completely different direction. Heck, even Kate Mulgrew didn't like her at first *because* she thought she was just there for eye candy.
I love the concept of trying NOT to Look At something (or someone)! You can see Seven of Nine struggle to remain calm & not play her hand. But sadly Tuvok forced her hand. I also love that, because she ISN'T some namby-pamby Federation/ Starfleet Pacifist, she went STRAIGHT for a response that would get results, "If they attempt to incapacitate me, I will KILL YOU!".
@@guthabanglasdash8641 I'm surprise Seven wasn't the most experimented on of the crew, surely they don't get a chance to experiment on a borg drone every day.
@@DavidKnowles0 agreed. If i saw a loan borg, like 7, you bet your ass id capture her. Nanotech in the star trek universe is worth a fortune, and having a nano probe factory, like 7, could potentially make you a force to be reckoned with. Potentially you could recode those probes to accept your commands instead of the collective. You could raise your own borg fleet by capturing 7
You will not hear this from the main stream media Kidnapping of Venezuelan Diplomat Alex Saab: Illegal & Dangerous th-cam.com/video/j7WiaNQpEWA/w-d-xo.html
@@cosmoray9750 Pfft, yeah. That's probably because what you're saying isn't true. The man has been under investigation since 2016 for laundering cocaine money, among other things. It took me like two minutes of research to figure out he is a shit human being.
When Voyager first came out, I started off with a great initial interest because it was a new series. That interest, however, quickly faded off. Until Seven of Nine came along. Sure, she's pleasing to the eye and I won't deny that. But, her character development brought a whole new dimension to the show. She really contributed a lot to the story of Voyager. Plus Jeri Ryan played a rather complex character that would not be easy for most actresses to pull off. But Jeri Ryan played her part like a champ. Kudos to Jeri!
Jerry is a nice person. Seven was a drone attempting to rediscover her humanity. She was part Borg and part human. Her emotions were new to her and a bit muted upon being disconnected from the collective.
Loved this episode. Kate Mulgrew did a great job playing Janeway frazzled and on the edge of losing it. Episodes like this showed just how vulnerable they were alone in uncharted space. Although the survival method was a little extreme from Janeway. 😆
It wasn't just acting; Kate Mulgrew had not long given up smoking when this episode aired and was filling on edge from nicotine withdrawal. Fun to think she channeled that into the role :)
Mulgrew also was furious about Seven getting too much priority, she probably hated this whole episode. Mulgrew openly opposed the idea about using Sevens great looks and body to increase ratings but we have to admit she was wrong, Seven remains one of the greatest characters ever in scifi history, not as admired as Uhura but the Borg factor make Seven cooler.
Seven of nine to the rescue thank God for seven of nine :-) I love how tuvok immediately switched into support mode once he realized what was going on :-)
yes but more importantly she showed she's a genuinely talented actress in the episode where she had to act like she was the EMH, or the episode where she manifested multiple personalities from the borg
@@Z7Sakari Jeri Ryan takes the #1 spot for me but there are plenty of honorable mentions T’Pol and Yoshi from Enterprise Troi from TNG Jadzia Dax from DS9 These women are lovely but Jeri’s character is the be all end all for me.
Seven and The Doctor were a great example of an overlooked benefit of Voyager's writing. The buddy system, or the odd couple. The Doctor is a great example. By himself, his character is "meh". However when you have him bounce off another character, his and the person he is interacting with shines. Here are some examples of long term buddy relationships. The Doctor and Seven The Doctor and Kes The Doctor and Paris Neelix and Tuvok Paris and Kim. I am not saying these characters suck on their own, but when they are paired right, you really enjoy their interactions in various situations. I find this tactic works best with introverted characters, rather than extroverts. It allows for the more quieter characters to express themselve where they would normally be a fly on the wall.
@@Name-ps9fx Hm, yeah, it's pretty amazing how one crazy megalomaniac can bring thousands under his sway with insane rambling and wield their potential to wreck havoc on the world. If it hadn't already happened in history I would... "NOT SEE" that coming.
On the one hand 'why would tuvok have protocols in place for cloaked intruders' on the other: those saurians that infiltrated voyager with phased cloaking. It really is surprising tuvok hasn't come up with some kind of protocol either communication or a full blown proceedure. And that realization that he dropped the ball probably hit him hard in that moment because this thing happened before.
After this was resolved and the new threat vector identified, Tuvok probably had 12 new procedures developed within 24 hours and was drilling Security within 48.
@@irregularassassin6380 the nerd in me hopes she just used her borg super speed to do all that, they just slowed it down so us regular humans could see lol
@@markgoggin4776 he would be able to interpret Seven's actions as not hostile toward him... yes she took his phaser, but immediately turned her back to him (being vulnerable to a Vulcan neck pinch, among others) and aimed it at where he wasn't perceiving anyone to be (or any critical systems). Being logical, he opted to observe what she was trying to do.
@@brianbeach3024 at this point in the series 7 has only been onboard for a month or so. I’d imagine Tuvok would still have reservations towards her and wouldn’t just sit back and let the situation unfold. Like 2 episodes prior she tries to contact the collective and escape.
I know. Lame to a TOS guy, good as these later STs are. I missed all those hilarious, male-oriented fights especially with Kirk involved. Would really be better if it got down and dirty once in a while . .
i still don"t understand how her hairstyle works though being more comfortable as drone she would probably have just shaved it for a while... not that chauvinist Janeway would have ever allowed such cultural expression
To be fair: we only know that there were two small ships' worth of people of this species who were Dr Mengeles. The rest of the species could be as appalled as the rest of the world was when discovering what Mengele had done.
This message of this episode is the ethical argument regarding experimental procedures on lower forms of life. Although the Voyager crew and the Srivani are sentient, they are still different species. The Srivani may consider all other species lower forms of life, therefore suitable for bio-experimentation just as humans feel justified to experiment on apes. Since little is known of the Srivani, it cannot be determined if the entire species have the mindset of Mengeles or the scientists who conducted the Tuskegee Experiment
I always loved how Janeway was PIIIIIISSSSEED off when they brought this leader of those aliens to see her on account of the constant migraines they had been giving her to see how she'd react. Some of Kate Mulgrew's best acting on the show.
I LOVE this episode, one of the best Star Trek episodes ever. I own the prop the EMH used on Seven to alter her ocular implant, I won it in the IAW ebay auctions in the mid to late 2000s. I'll record a short video and post in my channel later today. LLAP
The multiple layers of failure as head of security. 1. Stopped all communication to personally travel to someone you suspect of tampering. 2. Allowed suspect to take your weapon, with zero effort on your part to prevent them from doing so. 3. Just sat there and watched them act afterwards, silent and obedient. Refer to issue #1 I mean, jeeze Tuvok ...how are you in that professional position when you basically acted like it was your very first day? This would be grounds for demotion, and a whole lot of ridicule behind his back of people making fun of him. So embarrassing and unprofessional. Even Worf would have done a better job, and he has about a 10% success rate with engaging intruders.
Tuvok instituted a covert communication procedure for situations just like this: Seven: ''Wink, Wink, stare, look left, Wink, grunt'' Tuvok: ''Are you saying we're facing an Alien incursion'?'' Seven: ''Wink''
3:07 - 3:20 (Seven grabs one of the alien scientist and holds her at gunpoint) Seven: "Don't move! If your people attempt to incapacitate me, I will kill you!!" (Alien thinking: "Hmm! Given the likelihood she would either vaporize or assimilate me, I'd better comply!!) Alien: "I believe you! What do you intend to do now?"
the aliens sabotage the mobile emitter and try to delete the doctor. the doc tries to transfer himself to sickbay but something seams to go wrong. he hides on the holodeck so he can try to help the crew. he sends a message to sevens implants. well, you've seen the rest :)
He’s hiding in the last place they’d ever look. Surprised his program operated like normal given how short a time he had for the transfer, but I’m glad. Episodes where the Doctor is wiped clean without his true self are horrible and sad to watch.
007 of Nine.
I see what you did there loo
She shakes 'em and I'm stirred.
And MacGyver
Loved you in Stripes, Sir,
but The Razor's Edge was a
Masterpiece.
One thing... How the hell did tuvok get down there so damn fast
Tuvok thinking: Fascinating, phasers don't usually make people appear; they make them disappear.
Also Tuvok thinking: Why haven't I instituted a covert communication procedure among the crew in the event of something like this happening? It doesn't seem logical for me to not think of that.
Even in the real military we always had "duress words" that changed every so often. Something like that would have come in useful in this situation.
@John Smith I think they replaced this code with "Would you like to play a game?"
Probably something that never occurred to them because of Federation space having nothing like that kind of threat.
@@kerryedavis changelings, romulans acting as vulcans, crew under mind control, Q effin around, those brain-bugs. yah, no such threat.
If I were him, I'd be thinking, "How did a trained security officer have their weapon so easily stolen and why did I not put up any resistance to that? Was resistance truly futile?"
Shame, Tuvok! Shame!
Tuvok is a very thorough and efficient security officer. I find it a little disheartening that he didn't have various security protocols trained into the crew for such incursions where crewmembers unable to directly speak could use more indirect methods to notify of an emergency.
I am surprised the constant brainwave monitoring of the crew did not help here.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 I don't think their brainwaves are monitored constantly. That seems to usually require specialist equipment. It's also possible that Tuvok did have such a thing in place and Seven used it here. She disarmed him with almost zero effort and he showed little surprise (even for a Vulcan) that there was an intruder in the room with them.
everything in the Delta Quadrant is new, he can only prepare them for conventional threats. The crew apart from Seven and the Doctor didn't even realize the aliens were there. Seven also had to act quickly without alerting anyone.
Basically, a "safe word" - I.e. "Cmdr. Tuvok, the 'Paralex Imbalance' requires me to reconfigure the relay...' Tuvok could just say, "Ah, I understand. Proceed" and then not be too surprised by whatever happens next.
Kirk and Spock had that one down almost a century earlier - hours may seem like days.
Like many plot holes, leaving them in place makes for better drama.
"You assume correctly." Best Seven line ever.
slight smile too
in a smug contest who would win?
7 or Tuvok?
Not really.
Proper use of adverbs gets my dictionary so fucking hard.
@@dac314 rude. Reported.
Neat to see the security department actually being effective in this episode. Weird that none of the engineers in the room noticed she was doing something suspicious though.
Seven of Nine had free range of engineering. The only one who could keep up with her was Torres. Anything she did would have been observed for a second or two, but ultimately ignored after a while.
They were all undergoing painful experimentation. Seven was the last of their concerns.
She goes in and out of engineering all the time anyways, at the request of various senior staff. They all probably just assumed someone sent her (including Torres.) and were in too much pain to think further on the subject.
They have probably had direct lessons in questioning her on her work previously
@@ClickBeetleTV The lessons probably hurt more than the Alien experiments. Especially after she came back from the Gladiator ship having been taught to fight.
Probably just thought "thre's 7of9 being 7of9 again, I ain't touching that with a 10ft pole".
One of the best Voyager episodes.
Yes I would agree. I believe the mark of a good series is not how well they handle the "Big Story arc" but if there were any memorable "regular" episodes in a series.
Agreed it is one of my favorites
@@SSingh-nr8qz an unpopular opinion, but a welcome one
Which one was it?
the first half got a bit repetitive but the ending was epic.
I like how Tuvok just goes with the flow the moment Seven reveals the alien then takes it hostage.
Tuvok: "Security Officer's Log, Supplemental: Seven of Nine has shown brilliance in identifying and covertly negating threats to ship security. It would be logical to include her in all future security program reviews and training."
She did in a nanosecond prove her actions were in accord with what she said.
@@Tigerman1138 I'd say she did it in a regular second but yeah agreed
Do you? That's lovely. 😊
He's suspicious, not stupid. Lol My N'wah Tuvok can adapt on the fly.
These guys were some of the most loathsome villains ever in Trek, and they only had one episode. Give me the Romulans and their constant psyops any day over these a-holes. This was a different kind of evil.
Kind of recycled though from the TNG episode where some space entity was also using the Enterprise to do all kinds of experiments.
@@billybegood466 The solanogen based lifeforms that amputated Riker's arm? The ones that made weird clicky noises and turned one crewmember's blood into polymer?
@@dmanc85 That was a good episode! Nothing wrong with re-using a basic premise if you can explore the topic with a new crew and see how they react. The Enterprise-D crew opted for a covert action to rescue a crew member and seal the rift. The Voyager crew took a more ... obstinate approach.
@@irregularassassin6380 I liked how that episode made it scary to be abducted by aliens..in the 24th Century!
Well said.
Seven and the Doctors only negative on this plan was NOT inviting Tuvok to their meeting.
They didn't know if Tuvok was compromised
@@ithinkitsaurus Seven can see them and their experiments. Tuvok's security chief. It was illogical for her to NOT know that he would detect anything she attempted to achieve. She compromised herself and the crew by not incorporating this obvious detriment into her plan to help the crew.
True, however, he might have tried something on his own which would have endangered the whole undertaking.
@@danielhausser8038 Tuvok had no idea what was going on. How could "he might have tried something on his own" when he had no indications that something was awry? Seven's plan was flawed from the beginning. This was the best outcome she could've asked for. They got rid of the aliens and are now aware of their technology and existence.
@@KnowTrentTimoy they meant if they had told tuvok
Perfect. The 3 most logical beings on the ship interacting.
Seven, Doctor, and Tuvok?
Seven of Nine: "They probed me.."
LT Quagmire: "Giggity..."
Priceless comment! Man you should make it into meme.
He he, all right!
There were a lot of nerdish types back in the 90s who wanted to "probe" her...
@@lancer525 You're a nerd if you didn't, ha ha.
@@napoliansolo7865 I don't think you understand what a nerd is...
A pal and I used to go to a Dublin pub that had a vaguely Seven-ish character behind the counter. When she got to know us, she'd hold up two fingers to ascertain if it was going to be the regular order - two pints of Guinness - so my pal affectionately nicknamed her One of Two.
Éirinn go Brách! Greetings from North Carolina friend.
Sláinte!
@@mckinleymac3452 Sláinte. Seacht as Naonúr go brách, freisin.
One of Two: Primary Server Unit of Drinking Matrix 030
@@tom30 There was a lot of droning overheard along that counter at times.
Haha
Jeri Ryan was a solid 12 out of 10.
Is*🤣😂
Ha ha ! 🤣
This episode really showed how far Janeway is willing to go to protect her crew.
Lol. As far as killing the crew.
She risked the life of the crew to save...the crew.
She just wanted that coffee
Well it was either take a chance, or forever be a lab experiment and probably die anyway.
@@AhsokaTanoTheWhite Janeway and going insane over coffee should be a meme.
Episodes involving Seven of Nine and/or the doctor were always the most fun.
That's what the series turned into during its final seasons.
@@PR--un4ub Not really. The Doctor was funny. Jeri Ryan is annoying. Although Seven of Nine is a good character
I always liked how they bonded, Seven was more comfortable with him being machine or technologically advanced hologram.
"What will you do now?" "Continue with what I was doing, now that Tuvok realises I had a reason."
Yeah, right? Why take the risk of being stopped prematurely instead of immediately preparing the crew by finishing what she started?
@@matthew55793 Well, it might be difficult to hold them at gunpoint while also reconfiguring the power.
@@lenkagamine4145 Tuvok could have held them at gunpoint. Is there a reason 7 didnt shoot and reveal the other two? Clearly they can be held and arrested after being shot.
@@leesweets4110 Well theres three of them, and likely more around the rest of the ship. Perhaps they were concerned of inciting them to greater violence. Also, handing the weapon off to somebody else would give them an opportunity to do something for the brief time while not being held at gunpoint.
I love how Tuvok starts moving the instant he hears "I assure you..." He immediately knows she is lying, and acts on it. No messing around, no second guessing, no talking to the Captain or First Officer. Just does his job immediately and efficiently.
Next time Tuvok will know to trust Seven.
Yes, he's quickly and efficiently disarmed by Seven!~lol.
And yet he reacts like a complete rookie when Seven goes for his phasor. He just stands there and lets her take it the weapon without using any of his superior Vulcan strength or reflexes to even attempt to knock her hand to the side, take a step back, or any of the other dozens of real world techniques security and LEOs are taught to prevent that exact situation.
As was often the case in ST, the beauty they bring in for fan service turns out to be the best actor and most compelling character in the show.
Robert Picardo is truly underrated.
@@RhombonianKnight 🤣🤣🤣
I find it funny that people automatically assume she was just brought in for fan service, not acting ability. She had been an actress for nearly 7 years before being hired to play Seven.
@@danielhaire6677people assume that because of the catsuit. If Jeri Ryan had played along that's what she would have been reduced to, but thankfully she's an outstanding actress and managed to take the role of Seven in a completely different direction.
Heck, even Kate Mulgrew didn't like her at first *because* she thought she was just there for eye candy.
@@danielhaire6677 I love your naivety. I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. Please let me if you'd like to purchase it.
If Seven of Nine was the Borg Queen I don't think the Borg would have had much trouble convincing Humanity to join them.
"there are thousands of us that look like this; do not resist"
@@heedmywarning2792 Assimilate THIS * fires a phaser while your floating away in space*
She didn't look like that until the Doctor did his magic and put her in a prosthetic catsuit.
Seven was one of the best female sci-fi characters ever. Highly intelligent, absolutely badass and smoking hot!
I love the concept of trying NOT to Look At something (or someone)!
You can see Seven of Nine struggle to remain calm & not play her hand. But sadly Tuvok forced her hand.
I also love that, because she ISN'T some namby-pamby Federation/ Starfleet Pacifist, she went STRAIGHT for a response that would get results, "If they attempt to incapacitate me, I will KILL YOU!".
"It was a mild shock, he will recover"
Yeah if that b**** had a resist seven would have put those nano probes in her I bet she would have liked that she would have assimilated her
@@guthabanglasdash8641 I'm surprise Seven wasn't the most experimented on of the crew, surely they don't get a chance to experiment on a borg drone every day.
B'Elanna approves!
@@DavidKnowles0 agreed. If i saw a loan borg, like 7, you bet your ass id capture her. Nanotech in the star trek universe is worth a fortune, and having a nano probe factory, like 7, could potentially make you a force to be reckoned with. Potentially you could recode those probes to accept your commands instead of the collective. You could raise your own borg fleet by capturing 7
This episode creeped me out so much. I loved it. By far the best.
This was the best version of her suit.
Jeri at her peak, absolutely stunning in all regards
"Somebody's sabotaging the ship, do I send security staff stationed all the way down there to stop her, or do I walk there myself?"
i love the older trek series where the dialogue and conversations were just as if not more engaging then action pieces
It’s all a matter of it being good writing
You will not hear this from the main stream media
Kidnapping of Venezuelan Diplomat Alex Saab: Illegal & Dangerous
th-cam.com/video/j7WiaNQpEWA/w-d-xo.html
@@cosmoray9750 Pfft, yeah. That's probably because what you're saying isn't true. The man has been under investigation since 2016 for laundering cocaine money, among other things. It took me like two minutes of research to figure out he is a shit human being.
This was an excellent episode, Seven was a real boost to this show.
When Voyager first came out, I started off with a great initial interest because it was a new series. That interest, however, quickly faded off. Until Seven of Nine came along. Sure, she's pleasing to the eye and I won't deny that. But, her character development brought a whole new dimension to the show. She really contributed a lot to the story of Voyager. Plus Jeri Ryan played a rather complex character that would not be easy for most actresses to pull off. But Jeri Ryan played her part like a champ. Kudos to Jeri!
Need a Seven of Nine series immediately!
Despite seven of nine being so one-dimensionally emotional. Jerry Ryan has a smile that will light up a room.
Jerry is a nice person. Seven was a drone attempting to rediscover her humanity. She was part Borg and part human. Her emotions were new to her and a bit muted upon being disconnected from the collective.
Seven learns to express herself emotionally more as the series goes on. In the later seasons and episodes she smiles more and more.
@@zeus982 that's my main point of reference for her amazing smile.
@@hackman669Jeri* (Jerry is a man's name.) 😵💫
And a body that would make a grown man cry - just ask the Rolling Stones ! 🤣
Jeri Ryan is such an awesome actress.
Seven: I'm taking you to the captain
alien: oh god please not that psycho
T’Pol to my left, Seven to my right. Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
Loved this episode. Kate Mulgrew did a great job playing Janeway frazzled and on the edge of losing it.
Episodes like this showed just how vulnerable they were alone in uncharted space. Although the survival method was a little extreme from Janeway. 😆
It wasn't just acting; Kate Mulgrew had not long given up smoking when this episode aired and was filling on edge from nicotine withdrawal. Fun to think she channeled that into the role :)
Mulgrew also was furious about Seven getting too much priority, she probably hated this whole episode. Mulgrew openly opposed the idea about using Sevens great looks and body to increase ratings but we have to admit she was wrong, Seven remains one of the greatest characters ever in scifi history, not as admired as Uhura but the Borg factor make Seven cooler.
@@pflaffik Sex sells, ask every prostitute ever, or Tik-Tok.
"Janeway frazzled and on the edge of losing it." So, every episode?
@@pflaffik "not as admired as Uhura" Yes she represents the ultimate dream of growing up to be a secretary answering phones.
Seven of nine to the rescue thank God for seven of nine :-) I love how tuvok immediately switched into support mode once he realized what was going on :-)
Jeri Ryan was one of the most beautiful women on Star Trek.
Damn straight
Have you seen her in ST Picard?
She looked as stunning as ever.
@@pastlink98 she's still looks amazing!
yes but more importantly she showed she's a genuinely talented actress in the episode where she had to act like she was the EMH, or the episode where she manifested multiple personalities from the borg
One of?
**genuine curiosity** I certainly can’t think of anyone more stunning, can you?
@@Z7Sakari
Jeri Ryan takes the #1 spot for me but there are plenty of honorable mentions
T’Pol and Yoshi from Enterprise
Troi from TNG
Jadzia Dax from DS9
These women are lovely but Jeri’s character is the be all end all for me.
Seven and The Doctor were a great example of an overlooked benefit of Voyager's writing. The buddy system, or the odd couple. The Doctor is a great example. By himself, his character is "meh". However when you have him bounce off another character, his and the person he is interacting with shines. Here are some examples of long term buddy relationships.
The Doctor and Seven
The Doctor and Kes
The Doctor and Paris
Neelix and Tuvok
Paris and Kim.
I am not saying these characters suck on their own, but when they are paired right, you really enjoy their interactions in various situations. I find this tactic works best with introverted characters, rather than extroverts. It allows for the more quieter characters to express themselve where they would normally be a fly on the wall.
Agree it was often watching the episodes I was practically falling asleep but when moments such as these came held my interest.
Just like in real life...by ourselves, we are all "meh"...but when we can share our time, interests, and expertise with others... it's electrifying.
Kes was the most blandest character, noone could save her. Neelix's relationship with her was creepy.
When a whole is greater than just the sum of its parts, as the saying goes.
@@Name-ps9fx Hm, yeah, it's pretty amazing how one crazy megalomaniac can bring thousands under his sway with insane rambling and wield their potential to wreck havoc on the world. If it hadn't already happened in history I would... "NOT SEE" that coming.
7 of 9 and the doctor are an iconic duo
Love watching scenes from this episode! I’ve watched the binary star ending several times haha
::star girl::
45 minutes ago Same here too.
I like how when she first reveals the Srivani, he was staring right at her.. uh.. equipment
i always found it very considerate of tuvok to stand by idly while seven was reconfiguring the phaser
Jerry Ryan is perfection.
On the one hand 'why would tuvok have protocols in place for cloaked intruders'
on the other: those saurians that infiltrated voyager with phased cloaking.
It really is surprising tuvok hasn't come up with some kind of protocol either communication or a full blown proceedure. And that realization that he dropped the ball probably hit him hard in that moment because this thing happened before.
After this was resolved and the new threat vector identified, Tuvok probably had 12 new procedures developed within 24 hours and was drilling Security within 48.
A training program for such a contingency would not be consistent with the Dictates of Poetics by T'Hain of Vulcan
At this point Seven had only been onboard for a few weeks. makes sense she doesn't know this yet.
You people have no idea what you are talking about.
Damn Tuvok got disarmed so easily and Seven turned her back to him and he still did nothing
I wonder if Tuvok guessed her motives and allowed her to disarm him.
@@irregularassassin6380 the nerd in me hopes she just used her borg super speed to do all that, they just slowed it down so us regular humans could see lol
@@markgoggin4776 he would be able to interpret Seven's actions as not hostile toward him... yes she took his phaser, but immediately turned her back to him (being vulnerable to a Vulcan neck pinch, among others) and aimed it at where he wasn't perceiving anyone to be (or any critical systems). Being logical, he opted to observe what she was trying to do.
@@brianbeach3024 at this point in the series 7 has only been onboard for a month or so. I’d imagine Tuvok would still have reservations towards her and wouldn’t just sit back and let the situation unfold. Like 2 episodes prior she tries to contact the collective and escape.
I know. Lame to a TOS guy, good as these later STs are. I missed all those hilarious, male-oriented fights especially with Kirk involved. Would really be better if it got down and dirty once in a while . .
How stunningly beautiful Jeri Ryan was and still is. 😍😍😍
Yeah lets fly between a binary set of stars.
"i assure you there is no cause for concern"
hard to think of a phrase that is more likely to cause immediate concern
First to comment: The Doctor looks great in Leonardo da Vinci's costume :)
I think so too!
@@April-dv2pb Same here too.
Nice. One of my (many) favorite moments of Voyager.
I swear Jeri went from strawberry blonde to bright blonde from her debut to Endgame
i still don"t understand how her hairstyle works
though being more comfortable as drone she would probably have just shaved it for a while... not that chauvinist Janeway would have ever allowed such cultural expression
@@vsync Seven herself would say
this discussion is IRRELEVANT.
Seven was so great, Borg personality and efficiency combined with her perfect face and pleasant body, such a masterly character.
Season 4, episode 7... the whole "reengineer the show around Janeway, Seven and the Doctor" thing happened pretty quickly.
Oh great. An entire species of Dr. Mengeles.
What an accurate analogy👌🏽🖖🏼
They're actually from the planet Wuhan.
To be fair: we only know that there were two small ships' worth of people of this species who were Dr Mengeles. The rest of the species could be as appalled as the rest of the world was when discovering what Mengele had done.
This message of this episode is the ethical argument regarding experimental procedures on lower forms of life. Although the Voyager crew and the Srivani are sentient, they are still different species. The Srivani may consider all other species lower forms of life, therefore suitable for bio-experimentation just as humans feel justified to experiment on apes. Since little is known of the Srivani, it cannot be determined if the entire species have the mindset of Mengeles or the scientists who conducted the Tuskegee Experiment
@@haitolawrence5986 So they are Chinese?
"This ends now." Maybe one of Janeway's best ever lines and my favorite line of this episode.
Jerry Ryan took Seven from being hired Eyecandy to being an awesome character (similar in many ways to what Jolene Blalock did with T'Pol).
I always loved how Janeway was PIIIIIISSSSEED off when they brought this leader of those aliens to see her on account of the constant migraines they had been giving her to see how she'd react.
Some of Kate Mulgrew's best acting on the show.
I enjoyed this episode.
Seven: I am engaged in a task for the Doctor.
oh well that's all right then
These two were such a great paring.
One of Seven's best badass moments in my opinion
The best Voyager episodes were excellent Star Trek
7 of 9 pressed the " finely tune " button on her phaser
Probably my favorite of Seven's outfits, though I'm also partial to her blue and grey one.
Didn't she also have a cranberry colored outfit or a deep grey?
I LOVE this episode, one of the best Star Trek episodes ever. I own the prop the EMH used on Seven to alter her ocular implant, I won it in the IAW ebay auctions in the mid to late 2000s. I'll record a short video and post in my channel later today. LLAP
*glances at channel* so whatever happened to doing that video...?
You have to admit she's stunning.
Tuvok immediately leaves knowing she’s not listening. She’ll listen when he lets her know he’s about slap her ass down! Just wonderful writing.
Seven getting "probed" in the turbolift...🤯 0:23
I can't believe they left that line in the episode!! 🤣🤣🤣
"I am certain she will have questions for you." That's an understatement!
The Srivani was a disturbing species. Medical experminents on the crew they can feel but not see. Wow
"In the turbolift one of them probed me with a medical instrument"
7 of 9 being probed? I find this intriguing and stimulating.
Seven was the hero teenage me needed and deserved... ;D
She and the Fapmaster 2000
This is my favorite Voyager episode.
Was never really a fan of Star Trek and subsequent spin offs but definitely a fan of Jeri Ryan. 👍
Great show
Yes, Yes, Yes.............I have ALWAYS wanted to probe Seven in her turbo lift.
T’pol and seven was the best parts of trek 😊
One of my favourite episodes
Perhaps 7 of 9 could have sent Tuvok a text message or some other form of high end communication such as writing him a note on a piece of paper...
This episode is one of the best explanations of demons I've ever seen
One of the best episodes EVER
Can't blame them for probing Seven.. thought ran across my mind once or twice myself.
What an awesome show, and next gen, remember when he first met Q, I'm like Holy crap he's got some powers 😲😂
When they first met Q? Wasn't that in the first episode already? ;)
Definitely a favorite episode of mine
The multiple layers of failure as head of security.
1. Stopped all communication to personally travel to someone you suspect of tampering.
2. Allowed suspect to take your weapon, with zero effort on your part to prevent them from doing so.
3. Just sat there and watched them act afterwards, silent and obedient. Refer to issue #1
I mean, jeeze Tuvok ...how are you in that professional position when you basically acted like it was your very first day? This would be grounds for demotion, and a whole lot of ridicule behind his back of people making fun of him. So embarrassing and unprofessional. Even Worf would have done a better job, and he has about a 10% success rate with engaging intruders.
Nothing compared to the criminal charges that should have been brought against Janeway!!
Seven of nine a stunning example of the feminine form at its finest 🥰
Damn right - obviously another man of culture - welcome.....🤣
That was an awesome episode.
She is Seven of Nine, tertiary adjuct to kicking ass.
This video is dated April 5 2063. Strange this video has been sent back from the future.
Tuvok instituted a covert communication procedure for situations just like this:
Seven: ''Wink, Wink, stare, look left, Wink, grunt''
Tuvok: ''Are you saying we're facing an Alien incursion'?''
Seven: ''Wink''
Oh look, it’s the Doctor AND Seven. Wow.
"in the turbo lift, one of them probed me with their medical instruments. And I recorded it, and will be selling the clip on my onlyfans"
Fantastic character.
3:07 - 3:20 (Seven grabs one of the alien scientist and holds her at gunpoint)
Seven: "Don't move! If your people attempt to incapacitate me, I will kill you!!"
(Alien thinking: "Hmm! Given the likelihood she would either vaporize or assimilate me, I'd better comply!!)
Alien: "I believe you! What do you intend to do now?"
I always imagined she would break its neck with her borg enhanced hand
The aliens gave up too easily, killed the realism of this episode.
They were not prepared or trained to deal with any resistance. They were only scientists not soldiers.
@@mrfrenzy. That's what I thought as well.
Eh, they were cowards with a lot of power - seems fairly realistic to me
Heheheh. 7 of 9 was all like “Eh fuck it” and chose violence. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love that brown suit on Jeri Ryan.
"In the turbolift one of them probed me..."
Do you have pictures?
After all these years she still absolutely gorgeous 🥰😍
Remind me why Seven needed to speak to the doctor in that particular scene layout, costumes/etc?
the aliens sabotage the mobile emitter and try to delete the doctor. the doc tries to transfer himself to sickbay but something seams to go wrong. he hides on the holodeck so he can try to help the crew. he sends a message to sevens implants.
well, you've seen the rest :)
He’s hiding in the last place they’d ever look. Surprised his program operated like normal given how short a time he had for the transfer, but I’m glad. Episodes where the Doctor is wiped clean without his true self are horrible and sad to watch.
@@Norinia I generally stop looking for something when I've found it, so everything is hiding in the last place you'd look..
She was probed in the turbolift alright... that bodysuit she wears was the real hero of voyager.
man, that uniform is tight!
Any time someone assures me I'm already out the door too.