PeppermintOS Debian12 Bookworm - First Look
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- PeppermintOS is based on Debian Bookworm. It's been awhile since I've checked out peppermint so let's see what's new.
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⌚ Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Live Install
02:37 - Post Install
03:20 - Welcome App - Suggested Software
04:13 - Snap Attempt
05:56 - Gnome Software Centre
10:58 - OK So let's try Flatpaks instead
15:28 - Peppermint Hub - Appimages
19:08 - Synaptic Package Manager
22:30 - Theming & System Settings
26:37 - XFCE Panel Prefs & Weather App
32:21 - Wallpaper & Desktop Settings
34:40 - Adding Plank
38:11 - My 2 Cents
42:00 - Outro
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(big grin) Sister Rosetta and Linux - made my morning.
text on the taskbar instead of just icons? Amazing 10/10 😆
Not a bad look and feel. Has the nice xfce minimalist approach. Coming mostly from Arch distributions, I'm not a big snap and flat guy. The Aur has everything I need usually. Thanks for the nice review!
Thanks Jeff! The Aur is still my first choice nearly every time, second is typically flatpak, then on occasions I might go with a snap, but snaps never seem to end up staying on my PC for long.
YES
Jack, I played with this yesterday and it is abundantly clear why this is not a distro for Linux newbies. It is only small because it comes with next to nothing. Adding a browser or two, an office suite, and other necessary stuff bulks it right up to where Zorin Core starts out. That makes Zorin much more out-of-the-box ready.
Hi Rocky, yeah it's a bit of a Lego kit where the add-ons come separately.😄
I always LOVE your reviews.. simple, accurate- not full of fluff and BS.. easy to follow-- I'd love to run this--- IF I can find a way to do tiling. I can use BISMUTH on my kde-- whch I could put on this-- but that would change the look of it- and i LOVE the way this looks AS IS--and want to find a way to do AUTO- TILING on it-- (not key combo tiling- that's NOT "auto" tiling).. YOU know of any way??
Hi David, great question. Other than the kwin script & BISMUTH, zentile comes to mind although I'm not sure if it's still maintained. I'd have to research this subject a little more. I remember integrating i3 into Xfce a while back which really worked great. It was fairly easy, but I'd have to go dig back into my notes to remember the steps. If you're interested, I could do a video on it. :)
@@jackkeifer I use BISMUTH with my KDE-- I just wondered what would do the EXACT same thing with XFCE---no key combos to remember etc..(stuff like that isn't sticking to me too well lately- lots of health issues- so I need automatic!! ) :)
I thought at one time, Peppermintos was an Ubunto based distro. If thats the case they either moved to Debian to move away from snaps or so they can continue to be available to 32 bit Computers.
It was. They rebased their distro to Debian and Devuan.
It was based on Ubuntu yes, but after their lead developer Mark Greaves died the remaining team, a very small team BTW, decided to base it on Debian because of the slower release cycle of Debian.
Olalala!
I switched from Linux Mint Xfce to Peppermint OS 10 & Respin and loved it but then they made some changes that didn't sit well. When LMDE 5 dropped I hopped to it. I've been using that since the but it is a tad sluggish on my old laptop using Cinnamon. Right now I'm flirting with Sparkylinux (I like the Riseup-vpn), Debian 12 (which has Riseup-vpn in the repo) and Linux Mint Xfce (no decent way to get Riseup-vpn except through snaps). I'm going to take another look at Peppermint OS but it doesn't sound real encouraging other than it's Debian 12.
I'm enjoying TROMjaro most these days which is XFCE and comes with Riseup by default :)
Hey jack a challenge and you're ready do a series how to make your own spin easiest way likely is using easyarch the ISO already has all the dependencies for the build process
Jack I have a request. Can you do a video on the latest Solus 4.4 release, the Budgie version? Thanks in advance.
You got it Johan!
Jack I put nix on a vm then installed nix repo to it disabled snap and flathub and the app images 😂 now it runs with really upto date desktop
Very cool Mustafab! When I made this video I actually installed nix package manager on it (using the installer script from github) and I couldn't get it to work even after manually adding the path references to .basrc & then .profile, so I cut it from the video because I was burning too much time. Whatever you did, nicely done!!!
Is pepper mint also broken for UEFI 😂 slow folks great job they did 😂😂😂😂😂
With Timeshift, does Peppermint OS install btrfs?
Great question! I went back and checked and by default peppermintOS installed to an ext4 partition. Well, I guess we know how that would have worked out, LoL!
No time shift is also for ext4 and anything running on a pool such as zsf maybe jack could do an example how to back up ext4 with time shift to a USB 😂 another feature Microsoft stole and gave no credit for!
Thanks! That's a good suggestion! Regarding Microsoft and the time shift feature, um... well this is a little embarrassing but, actually I took credit for creating it and then offered it up as collateral to Bill in order to weasel my way out of a losing poker game. 🥸
Jack you're a much nicer guy! Debian royally screwed the pooch this time! They need to stick too servers then let people open an dur " Debian user repo" then they would really really have something worth a turd they can make a rolling and a stable! They are so stubborn ask any dev why they won't dev for them! Stable is great but their ideas of stable breaks stuff security updates for software are just as important as system updates
Linux will never get more, 1-2 percents of users using it as desktop is its maximum. Time to stop going over another 567th distro that differs from others just in icons or default pack of unitilities. Even as a server its architecture became old-fashioned. They use it just because no other options still there
@@josephlagrange9531It is currently at 3% market share. The Steam Deck is based on Linux.
FreeBSD and proprietary Unix OSes exist in the server space as well.
I use Debian 12 + Flatpaks on my desktop because I don't care about having the latest greatest stuff. I've never had anything break on an update either. If I want the latest and greatest, I can upgrade to Testing/Sid. Is that a problem for you?
Mr. Jack. i am tired of these Linux billion'ths reviews. Plug your guitar to 45kWatt amplifier and play something
Neighborhood cat would meow 😂
MrKitty is right, the last time I played the neighbourhood cat threw a shoe at me! 😂 But you never know when something might pop up out of the blue. 😉
@@jackkeifer 😸🤷
Living in Santiago de los Caballeros, I installed Peppermint for a lot for family and friends. Often on say ancient Pentium 4s, which were still used here. The last Peppermint-10 I installed early 2022 indeed on a Pentium 4 HT (1C2T; 3.0GHz). I still have Peppermint 7, 9 and 10 in Virtualbox VMs.
I tried Peppermint 11 in a VM, but it was too primitive for me, so I deleted it again. You convinced me to try it again.
I installed Peppermint the 2nd time without issue. It is fast and looks nice, but the install crashed, when I selected a swap file and the firefox snap was not added to the menu. I like to have a swap, so I will add a 1GB swap partition to the vdi file. That snap error was already well known in Debian 11 and the solution was here at the end of the story: "linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-snap-snap-store-on-debian-11-bullseye-linux/"
I again did run into the issue, that I can't play my 10,000 wma files, that I started to collect since 2003 from my LPs and CDs using Win XP. I'm somewhat disappointed about the quality of Peppermint 2023 and Debian 12. I never had these outdated issues in Peppermint 9 or 10. For me basing Peppermint on Debian instead of Ubuntu is an error. What are their perceived users? Are Peppermint developers aiming at users with real Linux experience or new Linux users with often older computers? It looks, like they try to replace their complete old user base.