Been following your content for years, and this one does not disappoint! I'm really stoked you had a tear down of this controller cuz I was going to be taking it apart to see what switches they use for the face buttons, this saved me that time. Thank you... Can't believe they actually used these omron switches.... thought they felt damn good.
Bought this controller a month or so ago and I have to say it’s now my favorite controller ever. Works incredibly well, feels amazing in my hands, and I love the SAX buttons. (Use them for different things like push to talk and sprint etc) iCUE gave me issues in the beginning but I uninstalled and reinstalled and haven’t had an issue since. I think I’ll be using this one for a long time!
@@xccelerant8695it’s a little bit smaller which I like. I have big hands so I slide them up a little and I can hit all 4 paddles with 4 fingers, which I prefer. Feels really good when holding and using for long periods of time
@@freesmoke8847 yes but iCUE lets you do all the nice customization you can still set back paddles without the program but the program lets you use the paddles as individual buttons themselves among other things
Been playing Warzone for the past 2 years and never used any controller with pads but after purchasing this 4 weeks ago I can definitely say definitely a game changer
Once again love the Chanel. Just wanted to say I got my hands on one in a store loved the feel but just couldn’t get myself to buy it till you came out with a video. Thank you for keeping us updated with honest reviews will be getting one.
The undisputed best controller reviewer, sick video man. I think an interesting future video idea for this controller could be a comparison with the wolverine ultimate since you can still buy it, and it launched at a similar price and both having 6 extra buttons.
I have owned one of these since it came out, and it's my favorite controller. I replaced my custom Elite Series 2 with it. The only thing I miss is the tunable joysticks and the battery life. Everything else is better, IMO. Edit: I forgot about the bigger battery.
I have had this controller for about a month, and it's been performing pretty well. I tried to overclock it and that basically bricked it for a couple hours until I found a solution online, so I wouldn't recommend trying that just to avoid the headaches. About once a week my sprint (L3) and jump (A and left paddle) stop working mid game, but it seems to be a software bug because all I have to do is unplug it and plug it back in to fix it, but it is annoying. I do wish they would've added hall effect joysticks since I'm sure stick drift will be a problem in the future, but for now they're good. Overall, the buttons, triggers, and joysticks feel great compared to a normal ps4 or ps5 controller. Great upgrade for those looking to do so.
@@11BCampbell11 Give it a shot if you really want to try it. If it bricks there are ways to fix it, but I couldn't get the overclock to stick with the controller working.
Ive purchased one recently and had absolutely zero issues. I only played wireless and usually play 5-6 hours a day. A full battery will easily last me 3 days maybe more, i use back buttons but have the blanks in for Sax buttons. Been grinding cod for about 3 weeks now and love this controller to death.
@@epicmike3915 controller is where it’s at for cod. The aim assist is INSANE, so why not. Also using the back paddles puts my drop shot and slide cancel to levels I’ve never achieved on a keyboard. Don’t get me wrong every other shooter I love m+k. I was grinding ranked last year on mw2 and placed waaaay higher once I switched to a controller. Excited to play ranked this year since I have now upgraded from a stock Xbox controller to the scuf. Also just a thought, if keyboard and mouse was really the GOAT why is every cod pro player using controller.
I use my left sax button for sprint and it’s like butter, I don’t fully reach down to tap it, more so pushing it down with the middle of my finger how it lies on the controller. W video
This rear button design is for you only using your middle fingers like you push down for the bottom ones and you push up for the top ones. That's how I use it and it's really easy to use that way. And sax buttons I have used to replace my L3 and my R3 So I never click in my sticks anymore. I've never accidentally hit them. I hold my controller a little bit further down than you do so my knuckle is not over them like I saw in your clip. I hit them with the bottom meaty part of my pointer finger
That's for a much different crowd of people than this review is aiming for. It isn't as simple as teaching yourself to Solder unfortunately. The process of removing & replacing the sticks, especially the ones that come with the additional board, isn't something a person with little Solder experience could pull off with no issue first try. It's possible, but not a good idea to attempt as you could ruin your device, or the sticks with ease. That's a DIY thing and I feel like that's an entirely different group of people. Pro players, and aspiring pro players/content creators want something that works, and aren't too interested in taking the time to get that involved with their device.
@@vCuda Honestly that is perfectly on point its a completely different audience. Hell most of your vids hit the mark and the only thing I generally disagree with on your channel is the importance of comfort in the hand that a lot of the newer pro controllers dont prioritise. The 360 and the dual shock 4 were the peak of comfort. It was all downhill from there. The xbox one controller was too sharp and compact and the ps5 controller was too big. Generally even some of the older pro controllers had better design than modern pro controllers like that piece of shit msi controller that broke in a week feels way better in the hand than most controllers coming out these days.
Guys I installed them yesterday and I was about to cry, I am very decent at soldering (for me desolder a stick module is very easy) but those are another level. The main problem is there is no step by step video that teaches you all the problems you may face in the process
Just bought this controller today, based on your review. Great job, and thank you! I also just happened to get my first gaming computer, this month as well.
I went with an Elite Series after hearing you, and others, say Scuf wasn't durable nor reliable. I'm enjoying my Elite a lot, but I'm glad to see that this Scuf is working well. I look forward to your 3 and 6 month updates.
I had to scuff and the both broke and I have two elite 2 and they still work 🤷🏽♂️ But I prefer scuff I feel like aim is smoother and and I prefer they paddles even tho they both broke one me lol
Okay, something actually worth spending some of my life watching, unlike the other 98.2% of YT that is dreck. Thanks for a very entertaining and very informative video. Someone that has snark and substance. Much appreciated. Subbed.
Great review. Been waiting for this one although I already decided to buy it. I also had the trigger jitter thing, but increasing deadzones solved that (I only use the clicky trigger setting). I like the sax and extra back buttons
@@1037g8ming I live in Europe. The website told me within 5-7 business days and it arrived in 6 days. I didn’t have any option other than standard shipping
I've just watched a couple reviews by you before this one and you do some great work here! I appreciate how well you section your videos and the way you discuss every small component with your thoughts on each tiny part is refreshing. I've subscribed and look forward to more reviews. I don't comment often, but I wanted to share this out of good will, hoping to see you and your channel grow! The comment at 8:25 "still pretty gay" just felt like an out of place comment from 2009 tbh lol. It isn't something I want you to feel bad about in any way, just wanted to share that a comment like that can be a red-flag for many people in gaming communities. Much love :)
You are the only good reviewer when it comes to stuff like this. Your the only person who's given valid and helpful information about my controller. Before I watched this video all I knew about the controller was that it had a good Bluetooth connection. Great video man 👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥
From me using the controller the sax buttons are very well placed it takes a little brain power figuring out the controller but it’s worth it in my opinion. great review
insane amount of depth you went into. i cant imagine how good you would be if you reviewed other tech as well. Im subbing even though i dont care that much for controllers, your videos are great
I love mine, the only issue again is the software. Sometimes it crashes mid game and you’re stuck with an un functioning controller while in a gun fight. BUT it’s only happened 2 times in the last 4 weeks. A simple restart of the software fixes everything. Still though, that’s pretty annoying. Thanks for the review! Always enjoy your raw humor 💪👊
I have had one for about 2 months and its really good a really love everything about it its the perfect controller out rn imo. Having said that the only downside ive seen is that the iCue software sometimes glitches and the back buttons dont work and i have to restart my whole PC not just the software, and then also the rumbles i would have liked a way to manually remove them or something because i was used to the impact for a while which had no rumbles and it felt so much lighter apart from that amazing controller for the price would really recommend it! Great vid man i had been waiting for this review so much 😂 (you probably have seen all my comments in the community tab 😂😂😂)
From the perspective of a PC game pad nerd: Does this controller have good gyro? And does it really have a PS layout, but no touch pad?? Because the touchpad has at least 4 distinct inputs, that you can always map the way you want. I'm pretty sure the FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro is a cheaper (costs below 100 bucks, bigger issue currently is the ability to order one, cause it's non stop sold out everywhere), yet better pro controller for PC nerds, with the extremely good feeling hall effect joysticks, also switchable triggers to micro switch and also 6 extra buttons (4 back buttons, but instead of the weird sax buttons it just got 2 extra face buttons right below the standard 4 ones). And the FlyDigi controllers have extremely well support by the remapp program reWASD, that allows you to set every button of this controller to any input you want. So vCuda, I highly recommend you try out and review the FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro (not the APEX 3, that one's shit, tbh). Maybe you'll like that controller, too. :)
I have to restart my PC so many times for the Envision Pro to work. Icue keeps saying there is a profile conflict + my mappings do not work. My triggers will also stop working mid game sometimes. Really sucks cuz l do like the feel of the controller, but I can rarely use it :(
most controllers with hall effect sticks usually aren’t as accurate. we have to wait until companies get it right completely before hall effect sticks become more common.
@@chasepierre6661 im fortunate that i must suck enough to not tell the difference. the hall sticks on my 8-bit-duo ult feel as good, or better then the sticks on my dualsense 5. and i can say my k/d actually improved on every game since getting it.
I ordered my scuf envision pro the day it was released! I use the Right Side button to slide in COD, the only con for me is the fact that it's clocked at 500mhz whilst PS5 controllers (Dualsense edge, Scuf reflex FPS) which I've owned both have the capability to be OC'd to 8000Mhz, night and day difference in response time. Great review however.
First off, vCuda, You hands down have the best controller reviews I've ever seen and I actually bought the scuff envision pro after my PS5 controller started experiencing stick drift. I just want to add that I never touch the sax buttons by accident and I think that they're in the perfect location. I don't have big hands by any means but I can definitely see the issue being a problem if you have small hands and you have to wrap around the controller to reach the triggers Also, I'm loving the controller so far and I'm thinking about trying out some control freaks
A fighting game player here and from what I've seen this controller would be really good for them (don't know anybody that has a clicky dpad controller so not sure how easy motion inputs are on them) but I will say not having any way for any adapter to get this thing on a PS5 is a major shot in the foot. Almost all local tournaments are played on those so you're limiting yourself to online events. Hopefully Brook adds compatibility for their Wingman FGC
I bought mine a couple months ago from Best Buy and thank God I have the protection plan because I've already swapped it out three times and I'm about to so it for a fourth time because v the buttons wear out. The other three times were all the back buttons. This time was both trigger buttons. I absolutely love the controller with my Kontrol Freak up until it gives out. Today I went ahead and bought the Razer Wolverine V3 Pro, which I will use for COD while I wait for my Envision replacement, but the plan is to use the Wolverine for all things not COD and pulling less stress on the Envision. The Wolverine would maybe work for COD, but I like how I'm able to nap one of the back buttons to a keyboard let that's dedicated to prone rather than having to long press the crouch/slide button. Long pressing anything in a game of milliseconds is detrimental.
Whenever i had the Scuf Vantage or whatever with the sax buttons, i ended up using those primarily to go left and right in the inventory for Blackout on Black Ops 4.
Just bought one. I found it at Best Buy on Accident. Its my first scuf controller, and i only play pc anyway. Joysticks feel way more accurate and smooth and i will eventually make the g buttons do something useful just haven't played with them yet...
The fact that the GameSir T4 Cyclone Pro is sold for $50 means that all pro controllers on the market are now irrelevant. Scuff does not offer anything worth $120 more compared to the T4 Cyclone.
What's better than the Scuf Envision Pro with the PS layout? That's really good and budget friendly? (Since the problems with this controllers seems to be pretty bad).
At what point is the jump in input delay not worth it? I’ve been using an elite 2 for a long time and had no idea how bad the input delay was. But, I’ve never used anything better. I was considering the turtle beach since it’s twice as fast. But is 500hz a big upgrade from 250?
I like that design the SCUF Envision Pro has. It looks similar to the PS4 controller, mainly because they have the same button and stick layout, which makes it super cool. :3
You make the bestest reviews on the internet, amazing once again. Also after gaming with pro controllers for a while I recently concluded that gyro quality on PC is the most important for me, would be nice if those brands could stop ignoring that part, lol
Has anyone had issues where the right thumb sticks felt weird? Or maybe the sensitivity curve? I came from hall effect sticks that have a way lower circularity but it's more consistent. It looks like a jittery square on gamepad tester vs this controller that has a circular one.
I was wanting to open my envision pro and change the a b x y button color and was wondering are they standard Xbox a b x y buttons that I can just throw in there?
Recently got a Scuf Envision Pro and I love everything about it, except for the iCue software. Physically, the controller is great, but getting it to work how it's supposed to has been a pain
Should I get this or the hyper ps5 controller with the anti stick drift sticks. I like the idea of mapping out keyboard keys can I do that with another softwere
I’m waiting for razer to pull their head out of their ass and give us a Hall effect controller with the front and back button locations of the TE, with the capability of keybind mapping on the extra buttons. I’d pay $200 in a heartbeat for good Hall effects and those front buttons.
I really like this controller, but I already have an issue and it's been 3 weeks. My left d-pad button has just stopped working - I hear no click or actuation. Wondering if this is something I could fix by disassembling and fixing myself instead of going through the lengthy scuf warranty process.
Warranty process has actually been incredibly smooth. Maybe I got lucky or maybe they’ve improved but I was not expecting such quick turnaround. I sent my controller back last week and I just received a notification today that my scuf had been fixed and was being shipped back to me along with ups tracking. The whole process has taken about two weeks. If your controller is under warranty I recommend taking advantage of it.
@@tamerthebian7286 i loved everything, except the paddles and the software. The paddles are really bad for my grip, I prefer the ones like xbox elite etc. Software is dogshit. Amazing controller and if you like the paddles I would see why its the best, but for me the paddles were too awkward so I returned them
As someone whos using a razer ultimate, this seems so close to the mark for an upgrade. But those triggers just seem so crammed. Im not sure what to get, but i cant imagine not having 4 fingers on the triggers at this point. Might just order another razer ultimate. 😂
I love you dude. You're not the "Bad Boy" of tech reviews. You're just being your wild self and it shows. Your reviews are works of literal art and I see you. Keep going.
Might be a dumb question but how do you property turn it off and on? Only two ways I do this is changing the auto shutdown to 1 min but yet that still seems like it’s on or puts it in sleep mode. And the second way is by switching it from wireless to wired while using it wireless. Curious to know if you know how to turn it on and off the proper way since yah know we are gentlemen
I need this controller to have a one night stand with the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra and use their offspring. If this had the Stealth Ultra's hall effect sticks, microswitch back buttons and bumpers, and the actually useful on-controller screen, it would be my endgame controller
Great review. Let me ask you something since you are a Controller Genius. I own the Turtle Beach Recon Cloud. The have Bluetooth to use it on tablets or phones. However, I want to use it via Bluetooth on PC, but, my PC doesn't recognize it. Any suggestions?
My man question.which kontrol freeks can fit.because my only fit with the normal thumps sticks.but when I change to the other thumps stick won’t fit..so which one will fit for the other thumps stick..
Been following your content for years, and this one does not disappoint! I'm really stoked you had a tear down of this controller cuz I was going to be taking it apart to see what switches they use for the face buttons, this saved me that time. Thank you... Can't believe they actually used these omron switches.... thought they felt damn good.
Bought this controller a month or so ago and I have to say it’s now my favorite controller ever. Works incredibly well, feels amazing in my hands, and I love the SAX buttons. (Use them for different things like push to talk and sprint etc) iCUE gave me issues in the beginning but I uninstalled and reinstalled and haven’t had an issue since. I think I’ll be using this one for a long time!
How does it feel compared to the duel sense ?
@@xccelerant8695it’s a little bit smaller which I like. I have big hands so I slide them up a little and I can hit all 4 paddles with 4 fingers, which I prefer. Feels really good when holding and using for long periods of time
can you use it without the ICUE
@@freesmoke8847 yes but iCUE lets you do all the nice customization you can still set back paddles without the program but the program lets you use the paddles as individual buttons themselves among other things
@@freesmoke8847 yes you can, but you will need icue to optimize it
Been playing Warzone for the past 2 years and never used any controller with pads but after purchasing this 4 weeks ago I can definitely say definitely a game changer
You played claw?
Thanks man love your reviews seems you’re the only one I feel is honest
Once again love the Chanel. Just wanted to say I got my hands on one in a store loved the feel but just couldn’t get myself to buy it till you came out with a video. Thank you for keeping us updated with honest reviews will be getting one.
love how straight up this dude is def gonna sub.
The undisputed best controller reviewer, sick video man. I think an interesting future video idea for this controller could be a comparison with the wolverine ultimate since you can still buy it, and it launched at a similar price and both having 6 extra buttons.
I have owned one of these since it came out, and it's my favorite controller. I replaced my custom Elite Series 2 with it. The only thing I miss is the tunable joysticks and the battery life. Everything else is better, IMO. Edit: I forgot about the bigger battery.
I get WAY better battery life running it in hardware mode (iCue not running) and always set ECO mode (RGB and vibration OFF).
I have had this controller for about a month, and it's been performing pretty well. I tried to overclock it and that basically bricked it for a couple hours until I found a solution online, so I wouldn't recommend trying that just to avoid the headaches. About once a week my sprint (L3) and jump (A and left paddle) stop working mid game, but it seems to be a software bug because all I have to do is unplug it and plug it back in to fix it, but it is annoying. I do wish they would've added hall effect joysticks since I'm sure stick drift will be a problem in the future, but for now they're good. Overall, the buttons, triggers, and joysticks feel great compared to a normal ps4 or ps5 controller. Great upgrade for those looking to do so.
im buying it now my plan was to overclock it so what do u think lol
@@11BCampbell11 Give it a shot if you really want to try it. If it bricks there are ways to fix it, but I couldn't get the overclock to stick with the controller working.
@KILLER76522 why overclocking it when it's been proven that there is no difference?
Ive purchased one recently and had absolutely zero issues. I only played wireless and usually play 5-6 hours a day. A full battery will easily last me 3 days maybe more, i use back buttons but have the blanks in for Sax buttons. Been grinding cod for about 3 weeks now and love this controller to death.
You're using it on COD?! You're on PC right? Why the F would you use an inferior controller? I'm asking seriously. Why not use Mouse and keyboard?
@@epicmike3915 controller is where it’s at for cod. The aim assist is INSANE, so why not. Also using the back paddles puts my drop shot and slide cancel to levels I’ve never achieved on a keyboard. Don’t get me wrong every other shooter I love m+k. I was grinding ranked last year on mw2 and placed waaaay higher once I switched to a controller. Excited to play ranked this year since I have now upgraded from a stock Xbox controller to the scuf. Also just a thought, if keyboard and mouse was really the GOAT why is every cod pro player using controller.
@@epicmike3915mouse and keyboard for cod is boring
I can’t get my triggers to work and when they do work they are bugged out scoping in and out and shooting uncontrollably
Why no Sax buttons? I've ordered one of these for WZ3 with the intention of using the Sax button for ping and then not sure on the other one.
Just got mine yesterday, I love it.
I use my left sax button for sprint and it’s like butter, I don’t fully reach down to tap it, more so pushing it down with the middle of my finger how it lies on the controller. W video
Great review, thank you for keeping your reviews honest.
Finally a vcuda upload, been waiting bro
This rear button design is for you only using your middle fingers like you push down for the bottom ones and you push up for the top ones. That's how I use it and it's really easy to use that way.
And sax buttons I have used to replace my L3 and my R3 So I never click in my sticks anymore. I've never accidentally hit them. I hold my controller a little bit further down than you do so my knuckle is not over them like I saw in your clip. I hit them with the bottom meaty part of my pointer finger
Why spend several hundred on a scuf when all you need to do is teach yourself to solder for Jun Zeng's Hall Effect replacement sticks.
That's for a much different crowd of people than this review is aiming for. It isn't as simple as teaching yourself to Solder unfortunately. The process of removing & replacing the sticks, especially the ones that come with the additional board, isn't something a person with little Solder experience could pull off with no issue first try. It's possible, but not a good idea to attempt as you could ruin your device, or the sticks with ease.
That's a DIY thing and I feel like that's an entirely different group of people. Pro players, and aspiring pro players/content creators want something that works, and aren't too interested in taking the time to get that involved with their device.
@@vCuda Honestly that is perfectly on point its a completely different audience. Hell most of your vids hit the mark and the only thing I generally disagree with on your channel is the importance of comfort in the hand that a lot of the newer pro controllers dont prioritise.
The 360 and the dual shock 4 were the peak of comfort. It was all downhill from there. The xbox one controller was too sharp and compact and the ps5 controller was too big. Generally even some of the older pro controllers had better design than modern pro controllers like that piece of shit msi controller that broke in a week feels way better in the hand than most controllers coming out these days.
I was thinking this, like i been thinking about getting a fully loaded Hypr controller and adding the dual sense edge adjustable triggers diy
Installing those is an absolute nightmare. Would honestly just dish out some money to save the pain
Guys I installed them yesterday and I was about to cry, I am very decent at soldering (for me desolder a stick module is very easy) but those are another level.
The main problem is there is no step by step video that teaches you all the problems you may face in the process
Best controller review video I've ever watched. Kudos.
I'm 3 minutes into this video and you've already earned a sub. You've got me ROLLING
🤔 With it being a PC only controller, there's really no justification for it to _not_ have hall effect sticks.
and no gyroscope
Agreed. At this price point is kind of an insult.
Hall effect joysticks have very low resolution so not good for aiming
Just bought this controller today, based on your review. Great job, and thank you! I also just happened to get my first gaming computer, this month as well.
Let's gooooooo!!!! Been waiting WCuda
PeeCuda
I went with an Elite Series after hearing you, and others, say Scuf wasn't durable nor reliable. I'm enjoying my Elite a lot, but I'm glad to see that this Scuf is working well. I look forward to your 3 and 6 month updates.
I had to scuff and the both broke and I have two elite 2 and they still work 🤷🏽♂️
But I prefer scuff I feel like aim is smoother and and I prefer they paddles even tho they both broke one me lol
Great video dude ✌️
Okay, something actually worth spending some of my life watching, unlike the other 98.2% of YT that is dreck. Thanks for a very entertaining and very informative video. Someone that has snark and substance. Much appreciated. Subbed.
IcemanIsaac catching a stray out of nowhere 🤣🤣
Great review. Been waiting for this one although I already decided to buy it. I also had the trigger jitter thing, but increasing deadzones solved that (I only use the clicky trigger setting). I like the sax and extra back buttons
How long did it take to mail to u
@@1037g8ming I live in Europe. The website told me within 5-7 business days and it arrived in 6 days. I didn’t have any option other than standard shipping
I've just watched a couple reviews by you before this one and you do some great work here! I appreciate how well you section your videos and the way you discuss every small component with your thoughts on each tiny part is refreshing. I've subscribed and look forward to more reviews.
I don't comment often, but I wanted to share this out of good will, hoping to see you and your channel grow! The comment at 8:25 "still pretty gay" just felt like an out of place comment from 2009 tbh lol. It isn't something I want you to feel bad about in any way, just wanted to share that a comment like that can be a red-flag for many people in gaming communities. Much love :)
Thanks!
I appreciate the support man, thank you!
this controller is phenomenal, changed my game massively...
can you use it without that icue mate ?
You are the only good reviewer when it comes to stuff like this. Your the only person who's given valid and helpful information about my controller. Before I watched this video all I knew about the controller was that it had a good Bluetooth connection. Great video man 👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥
From me using the controller the sax buttons are very well placed it takes a little brain power figuring out the controller but it’s worth it in my opinion. great review
insane amount of depth you went into. i cant imagine how good you would be if you reviewed other tech as well. Im subbing even though i dont care that much for controllers, your videos are great
Sometimes i come for the review, sometimes i come for the comedy. I never laugh so hard watching ur reviews!
I love mine, the only issue again is the software. Sometimes it crashes mid game and you’re stuck with an un functioning controller while in a gun fight. BUT it’s only happened 2 times in the last 4 weeks.
A simple restart of the software fixes everything.
Still though, that’s pretty annoying.
Thanks for the review! Always enjoy your raw humor 💪👊
Same problem, even in hardware mode. Have to alt tab out and back in to get paddles to work again.
@@ShadLambertYES! Is there any fix to this?
The alt tab out and then back in is the only band aid that works for me so far 😢
I have had one for about 2 months and its really good a really love everything about it its the perfect controller out rn imo. Having said that the only downside ive seen is that the iCue software sometimes glitches and the back buttons dont work and i have to restart my whole PC not just the software, and then also the rumbles i would have liked a way to manually remove them or something because i was used to the impact for a while which had no rumbles and it felt so much lighter apart from that amazing controller for the price would really recommend it! Great vid man i had been waiting for this review so much 😂 (you probably have seen all my comments in the community tab 😂😂😂)
From the perspective of a PC game pad nerd: Does this controller have good gyro? And does it really have a PS layout, but no touch pad?? Because the touchpad has at least 4 distinct inputs, that you can always map the way you want.
I'm pretty sure the FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro is a cheaper (costs below 100 bucks, bigger issue currently is the ability to order one, cause it's non stop sold out everywhere), yet better pro controller for PC nerds, with the extremely good feeling hall effect joysticks, also switchable triggers to micro switch and also 6 extra buttons (4 back buttons, but instead of the weird sax buttons it just got 2 extra face buttons right below the standard 4 ones). And the FlyDigi controllers have extremely well support by the remapp program reWASD, that allows you to set every button of this controller to any input you want.
So vCuda, I highly recommend you try out and review the FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro (not the APEX 3, that one's shit, tbh). Maybe you'll like that controller, too. :)
He literally showed it in the video and said the buttons don't compare to the scuf Envision lol.
As some who got theres last week i love the side button but i think i find it useful because i have big hands but over all i love it.
I have to restart my PC so many times for the Envision Pro to work.
Icue keeps saying there is a profile conflict + my mappings do not work.
My triggers will also stop working mid game sometimes.
Really sucks cuz l do like the feel of the controller, but I can rarely use it :(
Wait...this controller doesn't have Hal effect sticks? Did I mishear that?
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most controllers with hall effect sticks usually aren’t as accurate. we have to wait until companies get it right completely before hall effect sticks become more common.
@@chasepierre6661 im fortunate that i must suck enough to not tell the difference.
the hall sticks on my 8-bit-duo ult feel as good, or better then the sticks on my dualsense 5.
and i can say my k/d actually improved on every game since getting it.
10/10 review! I always look forward to your content. I would love an fps controller tier list one day. THANK YOU
Been waiting for your review on this
Best review I’ve ever seen. Subbed
I want you to review everything ever please. What a perfect and entertaining way to deliver information. Thanks for this!
Been waiting for this one!
Honestly enjoyed the shit out of this review. I have one of them on order currently, looking forward to seeing how it holds up.
Bro your reviews are the best.
I ordered my scuf envision pro the day it was released! I use the Right Side button to slide in COD, the only con for me is the fact that it's clocked at 500mhz whilst PS5 controllers (Dualsense edge, Scuf reflex FPS) which I've owned both have the capability to be OC'd to 8000Mhz, night and day difference in response time. Great review however.
I've been waiting for mine to come in for forever. Hopefully it finally gets here next week.
I absolutely LOVE the vibes of ur videos
Using the same spectra infinity for 2.5 years now. No issues. 30 quid.
what is the response time on the instinct Pro thinking of switch over to the envision pro. what do you think ?
First off, vCuda, You hands down have the best controller reviews I've ever seen and I actually bought the scuff envision pro after my PS5 controller started experiencing stick drift. I just want to add that I never touch the sax buttons by accident and I think that they're in the perfect location. I don't have big hands by any means but I can definitely see the issue being a problem if you have small hands and you have to wrap around the controller to reach the triggers
Also, I'm loving the controller so far and I'm thinking about trying out some control freaks
Lmao idk if it’s cuz I’m smacked but I think I laughed for entire first 1:03 seconds. Subbed 😂
A fighting game player here and from what I've seen this controller would be really good for them (don't know anybody that has a clicky dpad controller so not sure how easy motion inputs are on them) but I will say not having any way for any adapter to get this thing on a PS5 is a major shot in the foot. Almost all local tournaments are played on those so you're limiting yourself to online events. Hopefully Brook adds compatibility for their Wingman FGC
I bought mine a couple months ago from Best Buy and thank God I have the protection plan because I've already swapped it out three times and I'm about to so it for a fourth time because v the buttons wear out. The other three times were all the back buttons. This time was both trigger buttons. I absolutely love the controller with my Kontrol Freak up until it gives out. Today I went ahead and bought the Razer Wolverine V3 Pro, which I will use for COD while I wait for my Envision replacement, but the plan is to use the Wolverine for all things not COD and pulling less stress on the Envision. The Wolverine would maybe work for COD, but I like how I'm able to nap one of the back buttons to a keyboard let that's dedicated to prone rather than having to long press the crouch/slide button. Long pressing anything in a game of milliseconds is detrimental.
I like this guys style, great review.
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I have 2 I'm working on now
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Great Review on this Scuf Controller
Whenever i had the Scuf Vantage or whatever with the sax buttons, i ended up using those primarily to go left and right in the inventory for Blackout on Black Ops 4.
Touchpad and replaceable joystick modules would’ve sold me on this. So close to my perfect controller.
Just bought one. I found it at Best Buy on Accident. Its my first scuf controller, and i only play pc anyway. Joysticks feel way more accurate and smooth and i will eventually make the g buttons do something useful just haven't played with them yet...
do you suggest this or the hypr? i know can be different but similar
Scroll wheel reset on fortnite is chefs kiss , especially when you bind it to a rear button
PS5/4 or Xbox kontrol freak thumb sticks for the scuf envision?
The fact that the GameSir T4 Cyclone Pro is sold for $50 means that all pro controllers on the market are now irrelevant. Scuff does not offer anything worth $120 more compared to the T4 Cyclone.
What's better than the Scuf Envision Pro with the PS layout? That's really good and budget friendly? (Since the problems with this controllers seems to be pretty bad).
Just ordered one after my reflex fps R2 button stopped working today after only 15 months. Hope this one last longer.
great review man
Anyone know how to stop icue from crashing so much? Happens every time I play. Controller is unplayable competitively
The P1 n P4 buttons take a lot more force to press. I wonder why Scuf didn’t use the same switches as all their other buttons.
At what point is the jump in input delay not worth it? I’ve been using an elite 2 for a long time and had no idea how bad the input delay was. But, I’ve never used anything better. I was considering the turtle beach since it’s twice as fast. But is 500hz a big upgrade from 250?
I have 2 Scuf Instinct Pros with stick drift. Is there a place that fixes and replaces controllers?
Great review. Commenting for the algorithm
Whats about Response time on wired use? And overclocking aswell on wired
I like that design the SCUF Envision Pro has. It looks similar to the PS4 controller, mainly because they have the same button and stick layout, which makes it super cool. :3
Btw, does it work on Android or IOS devices?
You make the bestest reviews on the internet, amazing once again.
Also after gaming with pro controllers for a while I recently concluded that gyro quality on PC is the most important for me, would be nice if those brands could stop ignoring that part, lol
why do you need gyros ?
Has anyone had issues where the right thumb sticks felt weird? Or maybe the sensitivity curve? I came from hall effect sticks that have a way lower circularity but it's more consistent. It looks like a jittery square on gamepad tester vs this controller that has a circular one.
Good review!
I was wanting to open my envision pro and change the a b x y button color and was wondering are they standard Xbox a b x y buttons that I can just throw in there?
Hey Cuda, which Kontrol Freeks fit this controller better?
He literally said it in the video.
Recently got a Scuf Envision Pro and I love everything about it, except for the iCue software. Physically, the controller is great, but getting it to work how it's supposed to has been a pain
Should I get this or the hyper ps5 controller with the anti stick drift sticks. I like the idea of mapping out keyboard keys can I do that with another softwere
I’m waiting for razer to pull their head out of their ass and give us a Hall effect controller with the front and back button locations of the TE, with the capability of keybind mapping on the extra buttons. I’d pay $200 in a heartbeat for good Hall effects and those front buttons.
Is the mouse clicky only on 2 paddles or all 4?
I really like this controller, but I already have an issue and it's been 3 weeks. My left d-pad button has just stopped working - I hear no click or actuation. Wondering if this is something I could fix by disassembling and fixing myself instead of going through the lengthy scuf warranty process.
I have the same issue somehow, didn’t disassemble fully but still didn’t fix
Warranty process has actually been incredibly smooth. Maybe I got lucky or maybe they’ve improved but I was not expecting such quick turnaround. I sent my controller back last week and I just received a notification today that my scuf had been fixed and was being shipped back to me along with ups tracking. The whole process has taken about two weeks. If your controller is under warranty I recommend taking advantage of it.
Hello , im in doubt this controller and the edge, what do you recommend? Thank you
ordered one 2 days ago and can't wait. Best fking funny review every keep at it cuda
Can you give an update on your experience after 3 months? Do you recommend it? Thanks
@@tamerthebian7286 i loved everything, except the paddles and the software. The paddles are really bad for my grip, I prefer the ones like xbox elite etc. Software is dogshit. Amazing controller and if you like the paddles I would see why its the best, but for me the paddles were too awkward so I returned them
As someone whos using a razer ultimate, this seems so close to the mark for an upgrade. But those triggers just seem so crammed. Im not sure what to get, but i cant imagine not having 4 fingers on the triggers at this point. Might just order another razer ultimate. 😂
I love you dude. You're not the "Bad Boy" of tech reviews. You're just being your wild self and it shows. Your reviews are works of literal art and I see you. Keep going.
Thank you man!
Got my blacked out impact and it’s survived since 2017 somehow💀. But was thinking about picking this controller up
Just came across your channel fire review and funny af.
I don't suppose the stick and the directional buttons are able to be swapped? LIke, having similar setup to xbox controller.
Might be a dumb question but how do you property turn it off and on? Only two ways I do this is changing the auto shutdown to 1 min but yet that still seems like it’s on or puts it in sleep mode. And the second way is by switching it from wireless to wired while using it wireless. Curious to know if you know how to turn it on and off the proper way since yah know we are gentlemen
Just press the on/off button on the controller lmao the circle button right above the profile button.
I need this controller to have a one night stand with the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra and use their offspring. If this had the Stealth Ultra's hall effect sticks, microswitch back buttons and bumpers, and the actually useful on-controller screen, it would be my endgame controller
Great review.
Let me ask you something since you are a Controller Genius. I own the Turtle Beach Recon Cloud. The have Bluetooth to use it on tablets or phones. However, I want to use it via Bluetooth on PC, but, my PC doesn't recognize it. Any suggestions?
I enjoyed this review, lol... Thanks for the great work!
My man question.which kontrol freeks can fit.because my only fit with the normal thumps sticks.but when I change to the other thumps stick won’t fit..so which one will fit for the other thumps stick..
is this faster than victus gambit controller?? had no problem with this controller had it for 3 years no stick drift
worth buying for 150$ vs a gamesir g7 se? at 50?