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The issue in the U.S. isn’t that Elon Musk created self-driving cars, but rather that the country’s infrastructure was built in a way that prioritizes cars over green spaces, walkability, and public transportation. Unlike cities like Vienna, which have abundant greenery, pedestrian zones, underground parking, and sidewalks that encourage walking, the U.S. faces a systemic, governmental problem in how urban planning has been done-not a technological one.
Process this; all tech like social media to cars are monetizing connection because we don’t plan spaces and places we can be together easily. And much of this was aggressively intentional. Like how auto companies destroyed trollies and lobbied heavily for highways.
100% agree, and the worse that is... it's not like countries can't just change. The Netherlands, now known as a cycling city, used to full of a highways and stuff as it literally attempted to replicate America. And it successfully changed over the years. The issue is literally American mindset. Like how they perceive public transport is for poor people, and how they love "roadtrips" and big cars
Very accurate. I suppose an effect from most of the development of the country being done after the invention of the train. It was the first country created from the ground up with access to distance based transportation. Much of Europe is quite old, walking was the shelf mode of transportation for the majority of its development. It’s going to take quite the overhaul of that is ever to be a goal: walk ability and ease of access. But corporations rule for forces of humanity there and big oil makes good money off of vehicles.
Europeans don't understand how enormous the US is. Its 3449 KMs from Madrid to Moscow. Its 3900 KMs from LA to NYC. Public transportation is such a huge issue in the US because everything is so spread out.
I am from europe and still would like the robovan and the cybercap here. In the cities the public transport can be meh because you have to share it with a lot of (often weird) people and in rural areas the bus might drive only 2 times in an hour or 2 times in a day. Would be much nicer to not have to own a car and have a taxi which is cheap and reliable with all your personal settings for comfort.
@@byGDurdoesn’t seem like either of these problems will be solved by the Cyber Taxi thing. For cities there is already Uber/Bolt etc which is cheap and fairly reliable. For rural areas the limited range of electric cars means it’s not a meaningful solution anyway
"stadiums still need parking lots because of deliveries" is such a poor take. What? You need parking for 20,000 because you have 10 truck deliveries a day?
I also raised an eyebrow at that line. but I think he's mostly speaking to the fact that you still need full road infrastructure and a large tarmac for trucks to show up. If you're always gonna need that, AND you're gonna need regular parking lots for at least another 20 years until most cars are self driving, the whole ploy of showing a park next to a stadium is more fantasy than future reality
I live in San Francisco next to one of the Waymo garages/warehouses. I see probably a couple dozen of them self-driving in my own and nearby neighborhoods every day, and they're already driving at least as well as the average driver. They're definitely more cautious in some cases, which doesn't always mean better driving, but they're very consistent in terms of following the rules of the road which means when you're sharing the road with them you can be absolutely certain how they will behave which is an enormous advantage over random human drivers. So, the larger the percentage of self-driving cars the safer the roads should be, and the better the driving experience is for human drivers as well.
But they don't have the general solution of autonomy On the other hand tesla is developing the general solution of autonomy without expensive radar or lidar Purely based on AI and cameras
Guys guys, there's a difference between hopping straight up and an orbital launch. SpaceX is landing and catching boosters that send stuff to orbit. It actually flies back. Even if the earth wasn't rotating, it would still be a significant challenge.
@@cannadodry7022 ORBIT!!! Google going to ORBIT! Not LOW ORBIT! Do you understand what OBIT means? What SpaceX did no other country in the world can do. BEZOS can't do it with Blue Origin and they are 3 years older in comparison to SPACEX. This might be the dumbest Podcast, ever. They need to stick to researching Phone covers.
As a ex-rocketeer mechanical engineer transitioning into robotics engineers with AD, the amount of calculations and stress that rocketeers go through is just insane. And the entire 398ft tall feature lauches splits and lands back "between tweezers" whiile thrust vectoring with 33 Raptor engines on the booster and six Raptor and Raptor Vacuum (RVac) engines on the Starship is just the best show on earth? Huge props to Elon for the vision. As an Indian don't even get me started on how impressive the rocket/ jet engine technology and the marvels of the sub-cooled liquid methane (CH4) and liquid oxygen (LOX), let alone the incredible design.
I think the most obvious way to use the car is as a family car share. Dad uses it for work, sends it to his daughter to get her to a wedding, she sends it to her mother who's doing some shopping, etc. As well as a friend network, neighbor, company.
I do just want to say that as a blind person who can't drive, these ideas about cars that can completely drive themselves sound amazing. Just the fact that one day I could get in a car and go somewhere by myself is so exciting. Just wanted to provide a different perspective that some people maybe haven't thought of
Needs to be a regular cadence of Andrew+Ellis tech showcase/explainer videos on the Studio channel. Together they just shine with their content on that channel.
There are things that you fellas talk about casually on this show that are so insightful and clarifying to the plethora of nonsense hype out there around AI. It’s astounding just how many tech companies, sales and marketing folk are flogging this stuff. Thank you for being the beacon of light and reality in this mess 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
As a European, I already live without driving. In fact, I don’t have neither a car nor license. I just don’t need a car where I live. I go shopping, meet friends and family and travel around by walking/metro/bus/tram. Of course a car is nice to have (and even mandatory for some people), but in those cases that is a necessity, you always can rent a car or pay a taxi. Just lets remove people from the roads using good public transport 😅
57:58 whilst I agree there is a branding problem at Tesla right now, most folks are missing the obvious. Think about everything Elon is doing is going to Mars. Cybertruck; Mars Utility Vehicle. Optimus: First Martians. All the Hail Mary’s are actually goals for things he needs on Mars…. So, will the RoboTaxi come out? Absolutely, more data to feed the AI to help Optimus
I see ppl here complaining that they didnt do the dishes cz the pod wasnt out. Kinda unrelated but idk why but I sometimes listen to the podcast while I do math and stuff like that for school 😭
I think Tesla's event was unintentionally a huge hit. I think teleoperated Optimus is Cybertruck's onstage broken window equivalent, which got people talking about the Cybertruck.
The goal was to attract the best engineers in the world, same as happen with space X which landing a rocket was classified impossible and it was done prior than everyone believe, if the goals are no ambiguous the progress will be slow so it is possible and challenging but not impossible
Your point about setting ambitious, seemingly impossible goals to drive progress is well taken, and SpaceX's accomplishments are indeed extraordinary. However, it's important to note some key differences between SpaceX and Tesla, which impact their approach to innovation and goal-setting. SpaceX’s success comes in part from its unique market position with little competition. By pioneering commercial spaceflight and focusing on reusable rockets and long-term goals like Mars colonization, SpaceX has built an early lead over rivals like Blue Origin and NASA. This near-monopoly allows SpaceX to take bold risks and set ambitious goals without the immediate pressures that come with fierce competition. Tesla, however, faces a very different reality. Once leading the electric vehicle market, Tesla now contends with numerous competitors-legacy automakers and new EV companies alike-forcing it to continually innovate just to maintain market share. Additionally, achieving full autonomous driving is far more complex than developing reusable rockets. While rockets operate in a controlled environment governed by predictable physical laws, autonomous driving must account for the unpredictability of human behavior, making it a far more challenging and multifaceted problem to solve.
I get the concept behind having your car drive autonomously while you're sitting at home. Relaxing or at night when you're sleeping, but you can't plan spontaneous events. What happened to the event of an emergency and you need to jump in your car and rush somewhere? What happens if you get that late night text from a certain lady telling you to come over. Now you have to stand and wait for your car to come back from wherever the hell it is in the city or order a Lyft or Uber when you have your own car.
Why not just subscribe to Audible and use your phone? The cost of a new device could buy you probably more audiobooks than you could reasonably listen to in several years
@@johnnyw525 Hey thanks for the suggestion. But I want Darth Vader to read to me. Edit: I'm joking about Vader. I just think it'd be cool to scroll through different voices for a particular book to find one that I personally like. No offense to anyone but there's some authors who read their own audiobooks but don't have the voice for it. I still listen anyway but.
Seems like it's a software feature Audible/Spotify/audiobooks in general will try to develop for use within an app, but voice actors would probably take huge issue with it
The taxi service could work in some of those newly designed cities popping up outside of metro areas. The townhouse/shopping center/park-themed places that have the self-driving taxis.
These clowns smooth brained the use cases. They could easily be geo-fenced to only support local routes. I live in a series of 4 beach communities w a LOT of oldsters who could use my 3 robotaxis (yes, I will buy them the day they’re announced) all day. 2 seats and room for groceries would be fine.
I'm actually shocked how they throw around spaceflight terms without much understanding. Maybe invite Everyday Astronaut or someone from NFS for stuff like this.
I had a similar reaction. They also seem to be echoing one another's negativity. A lot of what they're saying is easily refuted. Just a bunch of bros bagging on something they don't really understand.
Most of the time I'm watching the pod, I'm also retouching images of cars. Generative tech has sped up my workflows quite a bit and I think the results are equal to what I used to produce without the tech.
1:13:35 i’ve used that same analogy when explaining the ships on The Expanse. they’re like buildings that can launch into space and come back down. absolutely wild
@@theobservarator6424 insurance, just like now but much cheaper because accidents will happen less often and be less severe. Ai don’t get drunk or distracted or race each other but you’re right it won’t be perfect but a hell of a lot better than 40k loved ones dying EVERY YEAR.
@@theobservarator6424 No, the company that charges you for the software. They will have insurance and the customer will pay for it through a built in higher cost for the software license. However, crashes should get much more infrequent the more people are using Ai. Ai can react faster than any human and can see in all directions at the same time and can calculate trajectories and tolerances that a human couldn’t. It will drive superhuman. Right now, getting in your car and driving is the most dangerous activity anybody does with their day. It’s a false sense of security because there’re many crashes, including fatal crashes, that happen everyday where the driver had zero input into the outcome. I get why people don’t want to ‘trust’ a program with your life but programs are more predictable than humans. If I have to risk my life, I’d rather it be in the most predictably safe way possible.
@@TheGreatestJuJu No, that's not the question, the question is who is going to prison? The self driving algorithm engineers? The CEO? Or the owner of the company?
As on old (70s) IT geezer, I'm not going to watch your how to YT stuff, but I love the fact you've put it out there for the younger generations. Thanks.
Biggest difference between Starship and Flacon 9 is that Starship can hual 100 people to space while Falcon 9 is designed to take 4, sure plus cargo but its not meant for much more. Plus landing legs require maintenance after a launch so no legs means no fixing
The problem is the inefficiency of space with cars. Regardless of whether it's running about all day picking up people, it's inherently inefficient both in terms of people per square meter and its "access" to places. Buses and trains stop at a single, purpose-built location (usually) on the high-efficiency route and rely on people walking or rolling to that location. They used the example of school pickup - we have vehicles doing school pick up and it's *clearly* a bin-fire when it comes to efficiency. A car is not the size of a car, it's the size of the footprint of the car when it's being stored plus the size of "space" taken when it's in motion - which is always bigger than the actual car.
5:00 Screw Kindle since Amazon decided they had the right to automatically delete content off your Kindle without your permission. 1:19:28 I am glad they give SpaceX credit for the actual amazing stuff they are pulling off. Too often people are bitter or upset with Elon Musk so they either ignore his achievements or pretend they don't matter.
I wasn't intending to procrastinate for 3 hours, but I'm glad the podcast is FINALLY here so I can do my dishes! I'm going to have to use my (probably not genuine) AirPods, because my phone's on 1% and needs to charge, lol. What was I procrastinating on? My iPhone 16 models, which have been overtaken by my iPad Mini 7 model! It should be very easy since it's just a scaled down Air (with a dimmer screen than the Air) this year. Nonetheless, the dishes await me!
Someone should have asked one of the fake Tesla robots a math question to find out if it was a person hiding behind a curtain somewhere. That would have been really funny if the response was super delayed and wrong lol
I really feel the only way to make this feasible is to have swappable battery stations that it pulls up to the battery gets swapped with robots, the vehicle swept, and maybe a human look over.
Just off the top of my head, a bus does not address: door to door transport & privacy/safety. The people who say busses are great generally don’t use them.
@dannylemmon As someone who does use busses regularly, they r pretty much door to door if implemented correctly with within walking range bus stops with good service Also is privacy that important when u consider that they r cheaper, better on environment and can be used by people who don't have a cool 30k lying around ?
Not that the earth rotates that fast. More that you launch in an arc to accelerate into an orbit rather than straight up (essentially getting to a point where you fall so fast forward that you keep missing the earth over and over). Hence the little flip maneuver the first stage does to get back to the pad and the continuous burn of the second stage to accelerate into a stable orbit.
If Waveform has a million fans, I am one of them. If Waveform has ten fans, I am one of them. If Waveform has only one fan, that is me. If Waveform has no fans, that means I've probably done the dishes already, lol. The chances are slimmer than my moustache, but one can dream! 😝🗣️🗣️🗣️
The Super Heavy booster that landed on the chopsticks is 233 feet tall. The Starship they launched with them is 165 feet and with the Super Heavy boosters included, it's almost 400 feet. I think you got the launched and landed things mixed up a bit.
The Idea of reusing rockets had NASA way before SpaceX. The boosters of the spaceshuttle all landet in the sea and were reused. And the spaceshuttle of course was reused too.
@@symply_ajay It's not about the price, that's why I haven't mentioned the price. Marques said literally that rockets were always single use and dropped into the ocan. He also said "How do you reuse a rocket if it lands into the ocean". He said that SpaceX was build around the idea of reusing rockets and implied with this and the other things that this was not the case before. But the reusing of rockets is not new. If Marques had just said that SpaceX made reusing rockets a lot cheaper then I wouldn't have any problem with that.
A large portion of components were removed and replaced before each flight. It could not be directly reflown, without a lengthy refurbishment. Re-use in this context mean no or minimal refurbishment, other than refueling
I REALLY agree with the take “why not a bus?” For the Tesla event showcase. Public transportation like buses & trains are wayyy more efficient at getting a large amount of people from point A to point B. It’d be cool to see stuff from Tesla for electric, full-self-driving buses, rather than inefficient 2 seater cars that get stuck in traffic.
@@goofybryson I think a lot of people feel the way you do. But let me try and persuade you. Public transportation suffers from two issues. First, it's filled with strangers with all sorts of problems (smell, noise, crime, or even just uncomfortableness). Secondly, most people aren't going from point A->B they are going from point C->D and the bus doesn't go to those places. So they have to walk or Uber to get from C->A->B->D.
Walking 15 min to a bus station (at best) then waiting up to an hour (assuming it didn't arrive early and you missed it), and then walking again to your destination. Most of the US is spread out, and the density doesn't make a bus a viable option
The name of the arms that catch the rockets is cooler then tweezers, i heard them calling them Chop Sticks, which blows my mind if you think about where that probably came from and how they control this thing. (engineering/ training model) Respect 🙌
Do you guys have a magnet near the David and Andrew camera, or maybe stockpiling nuclear material in the room? 😅 There's camera fizzle throughout the video, on Andrew's white shirt around the left arm and David's hair and back of his collar. An example is at 1:20:57
I feel tech podcast should make people excited about the future not criticising everything can we a bit more optimistic. I don’t think they realise how negative these lot have become in recent times. I am sure I am not the only one. We need hope for tech than just plain criticism
I think they strike a good balance. The SpaceX stuff is very exciting and they are rightly enthusiastic. Elon dropping insane promises to get his stock up is not exciting and they are rightly cynical.
I do not understand why you are so confused about that we, robot event lol. Especially because your analyse of it is still exactly on point. They just put out a very cool vibe, image and inspiration of their future goals. Which IMO was very succesful. You have a clear image of what their robotaxi is going to look like, and they made it pretty clear they just need to start it somewhere, small at first and than see how and where and when they can roll it out bigger and quicker. It will probably accelerate on the way. Clearly their robots were human assisted but you get a very clear view of what they already can, compared to their robot man in a suit, than their clunky bots, now they have their pretty awesome robots than can already move around and do some moves autonomous and they felt confident moving it out into an event like this doing all these things but obviously they still need to assist it in many ways to make sure everything goes smoothly. It's just an inspirational vibe and setting and they rocked that. Furthermore we just need to keep faith in the way they are trying to get this into reality which to me seems like the smartest way to actually get to where they want to go. Obviously the exact timelines and frames will be somewhat unreliable, we will have to see as it progresses. I still think their plan is very on point, their vision is very clear, their approach is clearly mapped out, their products very clearly shown and demo'd. IMO all a big succes, awesome vibes. Would love to see it all happen in the coming years.
We know exactly what their current FSD is capable off, if not you can easily find videos of it or do test drives of it. They are not 100% there yet but clearly close and accelerating and also investing in that acceleration and they are also at a point of increasing returns. newer versions rolling out all the time. The plan was to get it to a point where they could jump from autonomy 2 to 5 but that seems difficult for different reasons so they start this autonomos robotaxi that they can roll out in clearly controlled and mapped small licensed places and grow that as it goes. It is also very clear how this new robotaxi can be 30k if you compare it to their current model 3 and y, take out 50% of the stuff and get this cheap stripped down version of it for robotaxi. You don't need a lot of stuff in a robotaxi because its a taxi not your car.
A bus needs a driver, a schedule, management etc. The robovan is just a gimmick now to counter the blabla capacity arguments that were obviously gonna happen without it there. But I can imagine having specific buslines that you would like to connect which you could easily map and try set up a robovan which you can carefully monitor at first and than as it works just let it more and more go on its own and than expand it. It's just another form and way that they could slowly experiment this and scale it up as they build their experience. It's a very cheap win win controlled way of getting to where they want to go. You should not see this as the jump from to the end product but as a step to get there.
I bet bringing out this event gave them a ton of real world data on people taking their first generation robotaxi's and also a ton of data on their optimus robots trying out some simple tasks and having them out in a public setting with real people. They have all their controlled environment data in their factory but at some point they have to get it out of there into somewhere. This was just another good way of making a small first step gathering data, giving it a try, see how it goes and what to work on. also giving people a glimpse of what they can now and a vision of where they aim to get it.
I don't look at this all saying hey this is not their end product yet and I don't have specs yet. I just see it as hey what a cool event, what a nice way to make a start getting some real world data, and what a good way of looking for ways to make steps to get to where they want to go. Obviously it is too early for Tesla for all of this still now. But it gives me a lot of confidence seeing the way they are generating the steps they need now to get there. Their plan is becoming more and more clear to me and gives me a lot of insight and clarity tbh.
I guess people are just so used to companies keeping all their info inside, protected and only rolling something out when it's ready. All Elon Musk's companies are just enjoying pushing the technology and showing what they got and where they are as they go. IMO that is great, it started this whole community of people making videos of it, this whole generation interested in it and following their steps step by step. It is great to be able to look into the kitchen like that in the companies that are literally pushing for the future as they go. These events and their open kitchen is also what makes them attract 95% of all talent in the world. They are consistently number 1 and 2 and 3 for top companies where high performing students want to go and work for. That is what most of their events are about, showing us our kitchen, attracting the talent they want and need. But yes it's very different from most exisiting s&p 500 companies. And a lot of people who enjoy it are happy with it, but at the same time it seems to over and over confuse people expecting their standard s&p 500 companys management and marketing styles. For me it is mostly confusing why most standard analysts keep getting confused about this company just doing this different for valid reasons which have been obviously working for them very well so far.
More like every few days. That paired with the 20x increase in Tesla's compute means faster improvement and more focus on edge cases, now that the base challenges of driving are mostly solved
Well FSD is not good enough to get govt permission to be fully unsupervised, but I’m sure 2 more years and it will get there! I’m also sure i heard this before already
The price of uber is a combination of the state and uber. So if the state puts a bunch of permits and requirements, i could see them making the price too high for anyone to want to drive in it. Nyc rideshare had alot of crazy requirements for drivers compared to other states.
The complete lack of vision going on here is pretty frustrating. It won't all happen tomorrow but it will happen. It will also evolve in unexpected ways and everyone will pivot. Why the insane amount of negativity?
Because Tesla is talking about something they know can’t happen anytime soon? And they gave themselves a ridiculous timeline to make it happen? We already saw the movies about these ideas - if that’s all Tesla wanted to show (and not any actionable products/ideas) then they’re simply late
@@37racso I use FSD every day. It is incredible and it is quickly accelerating towards driving better than humans. It did take them a while to get all the pieces in place. But it's here. Much like every revolutionary product Tesla promises. They turn the nearly impossible into merely late.
To be clear, I believe Elon Musk exhibits problematic behavior and could benefit from serious therapy. However, the engineering teams at Tesla and SpaceX are accomplishing some of the most remarkable feats in modern engineering. While it's uncertain how long this momentum will last, the progress toward autonomous vehicles has reached a point where their widespread adoption seems inevitable.
What will happen? If this is possible then Tesla wouldn't sell it but instead use it for themselves. Why would they sell automatic money making machines to others?
David got the wardrobe of a Persian king
Lol😂
Love the shirt!
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That overshirt is definitely a joke
The issue in the U.S. isn’t that Elon Musk created self-driving cars, but rather that the country’s infrastructure was built in a way that prioritizes cars over green spaces, walkability, and public transportation. Unlike cities like Vienna, which have abundant greenery, pedestrian zones, underground parking, and sidewalks that encourage walking, the U.S. faces a systemic, governmental problem in how urban planning has been done-not a technological one.
Process this; all tech like social media to cars are monetizing connection because we don’t plan spaces and places we can be together easily. And much of this was aggressively intentional. Like how auto companies destroyed trollies and lobbied heavily for highways.
100% agree, and the worse that is... it's not like countries can't just change.
The Netherlands, now known as a cycling city, used to full of a highways and stuff as it literally attempted to replicate America.
And it successfully changed over the years.
The issue is literally American mindset. Like how they perceive public transport is for poor people, and how they love "roadtrips" and big cars
Very accurate. I suppose an effect from most of the development of the country being done after the invention of the train. It was the first country created from the ground up with access to distance based transportation.
Much of Europe is quite old, walking was the shelf mode of transportation for the majority of its development.
It’s going to take quite the overhaul of that is ever to be a goal: walk ability and ease of access.
But corporations rule for forces of humanity there and big oil makes good money off of vehicles.
The European mind cannot comprehend the American way of trying to do public transport without actually doing public transport
Nobody cares what the dying continent thinks. Their only ‘innovation’ is finding out new ways to tax or fine the successful.
Europeans don't understand how enormous the US is. Its 3449 KMs from Madrid to Moscow. Its 3900 KMs from LA to NYC.
Public transportation is such a huge issue in the US because everything is so spread out.
@@dpb22You do realise that you can take a train to from Moscow to Madrid. Most of it will even be high speed rail
I am from europe and still would like the robovan and the cybercap here. In the cities the public transport can be meh because you have to share it with a lot of (often weird) people and in rural areas the bus might drive only 2 times in an hour or 2 times in a day. Would be much nicer to not have to own a car and have a taxi which is cheap and reliable with all your personal settings for comfort.
@@byGDurdoesn’t seem like either of these problems will be solved by the Cyber Taxi thing. For cities there is already Uber/Bolt etc which is cheap and fairly reliable. For rural areas the limited range of electric cars means it’s not a meaningful solution anyway
David bringing up the calculator analogy in contrast to Marques's deep question is the best moment EVER on this podcast... It was just PERFECT.
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"stadiums still need parking lots because of deliveries" is such a poor take. What? You need parking for 20,000 because you have 10 truck deliveries a day?
I also raised an eyebrow at that line. but I think he's mostly speaking to the fact that you still need full road infrastructure and a large tarmac for trucks to show up. If you're always gonna need that, AND you're gonna need regular parking lots for at least another 20 years until most cars are self driving, the whole ploy of showing a park next to a stadium is more fantasy than future reality
I live in San Francisco next to one of the Waymo garages/warehouses. I see probably a couple dozen of them self-driving in my own and nearby neighborhoods every day, and they're already driving at least as well as the average driver. They're definitely more cautious in some cases, which doesn't always mean better driving, but they're very consistent in terms of following the rules of the road which means when you're sharing the road with them you can be absolutely certain how they will behave which is an enormous advantage over random human drivers. So, the larger the percentage of self-driving cars the safer the roads should be, and the better the driving experience is for human drivers as well.
Exactly. This Podcast has people on it who don't know how to drive and argue against robots driving for them. This isn't a podcast; it's a Podcats
But they don't have the general solution of autonomy
On the other hand tesla is developing the general solution of autonomy without expensive radar or lidar
Purely based on AI and cameras
@@aadityachourasia2124 So?
@@ummon so wait and watch 🙃
Guys guys, there's a difference between hopping straight up and an orbital launch. SpaceX is landing and catching boosters that send stuff to orbit. It actually flies back. Even if the earth wasn't rotating, it would still be a significant challenge.
The level of research for a Tech Pod is abysmal...
@@Teddy_M85 true!
It was done in 1993. It was called the delta clipper and the rocket landed vertically exactly where it took off.
@@cannadodry7022 ORBIT!!! Google going to ORBIT! Not LOW ORBIT! Do you understand what OBIT means? What SpaceX did no other country in the world can do. BEZOS can't do it with Blue Origin and they are 3 years older in comparison to SPACEX.
This might be the dumbest Podcast, ever. They need to stick to researching Phone covers.
@@Teddy_M85 I agree, they need to learn about how this stuff works before saying random thoughts they have on it.
"Are you worse at math because you can use a calculator? Yes." David came with the best wardrobe & best one line today.
52:35 Robotaxi is the service, and Cybercab and Robovan are the vehicles
I don’t think that’s right. The Tesla website doesn’t say cybercar anywhere I can find.
Ellis needs his own 15 minute show. Too much charisma sitting over there.
Correct
Qué perris, Ellis! ✨
Who is Ellis?
@@widerthanpictureswhen they show the 2 producers of the show, he’s the one on the left. Lots of jokes.
If you guys want to do a deep-dive interview episode about space tech, y'all should interview Everyday Astronaut (Tim Dodd).
They've GOTTA get someone who actually knows what they're talking about when it comes to space stuff
@@isaacstevens1912 Exactly!! They need to learn how it works
As a ex-rocketeer mechanical engineer transitioning into robotics engineers with AD, the amount of calculations and stress that rocketeers go through is just insane. And the entire 398ft tall feature lauches splits and lands back "between tweezers" whiile thrust vectoring with 33 Raptor engines on the booster and six Raptor and Raptor Vacuum (RVac) engines on the Starship is just the best show on earth? Huge props to Elon for the vision. As an Indian don't even get me started on how impressive the rocket/ jet engine technology and the marvels of the sub-cooled liquid methane (CH4) and liquid oxygen (LOX), let alone the incredible design.
For people who haven't done their dishes yet, do it now!!!
Get out of my head!!
You just saved me a fee from missing a clean check at my apartment. 👍 👍
took so long to upload the podcast because everyone was entranced by David’s shirt holy hell 😅
I think the most obvious way to use the car is as a family car share. Dad uses it for work, sends it to his daughter to get her to a wedding, she sends it to her mother who's doing some shopping, etc. As well as a friend network, neighbor, company.
assuming it can actually drive itself... which they currently can't
I get the point but why does your mental family live in the 1950s?
Dude who loves busses has never rode the bus.
I enjoyed riding buses in Japan
@@cjmixmaster bro did the meme
Wow, Jacob Collier sitting for David was quite the "get" for todays episode.
I do just want to say that as a blind person who can't drive, these ideas about cars that can completely drive themselves sound amazing. Just the fact that one day I could get in a car and go somewhere by myself is so exciting. Just wanted to provide a different perspective that some people maybe haven't thought of
Needs to be a regular cadence of Andrew+Ellis tech showcase/explainer videos on the Studio channel. Together they just shine with their content on that channel.
That Shania Twain joke was amazing haha 1:18:14
David, your shirt looks beautiful 🙋🏽♂️
I saw people thinking Andrew got fired 💀
That was some very funny logic to follow
Oh my god, I actually laughed out loud for so long because of how you sent Andrew on this little trip with the Shania Twain thing 😂😂😂
There are things that you fellas talk about casually on this show that are so insightful and clarifying to the plethora of nonsense hype out there around AI. It’s astounding just how many tech companies, sales and marketing folk are flogging this stuff. Thank you for being the beacon of light and reality in this mess 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
As a European, I already live without driving. In fact, I don’t have neither a car nor license. I just don’t need a car where I live. I go shopping, meet friends and family and travel around by walking/metro/bus/tram. Of course a car is nice to have (and even mandatory for some people), but in those cases that is a necessity, you always can rent a car or pay a taxi. Just lets remove people from the roads using good public transport 😅
Riding around with a bunch of other people every day kinda sucks.
Adam losing it at the Shania Twain joke is pure gold
57:58 whilst I agree there is a branding problem at Tesla right now, most folks are missing the obvious. Think about everything Elon is doing is going to Mars. Cybertruck; Mars Utility Vehicle. Optimus: First Martians. All the Hail Mary’s are actually goals for things he needs on Mars…. So, will the RoboTaxi come out? Absolutely, more data to feed the AI to help Optimus
The WVFRM’s take on the iPad Mini not having a Pro version is spot on!
I see ppl here complaining that they didnt do the dishes cz the pod wasnt out. Kinda unrelated but idk why but I sometimes listen to the podcast while I do math and stuff like that for school 😭
My procrastination in dishes is always spontaneous! 😝💯
Wtf is cz? Is that like when kids say IJBOL bc they’re too insecure to say lmao
@lorddeecee idk what ijbol is but cz stands for cause/because here, it's a shortform
@@fidaananver I just found out IJBOL means I Just Burst Out Laughing.
@@just_mdd4 lmaoooo 🤣
Taco bell being the "dong heard round the world" was a MASSIVELY underappreciated joke from Elis. I actually cackled outloud
46:39
>"i have a hot take"
>proceeds to share literal coldest take
Just watched whole video while doing gym.. I am always happy to see these type of tech stuff podcast ❤❤
7:29 "Audio listeners, I am staring blankly at David" OMG, best line 😂😂😂
46:46
>"i got a hot take"
>proceeds to share literal coldest take
I haven’t gotten there yet but that sounds like an Ellis line
I think Tesla's event was unintentionally a huge hit. I think teleoperated Optimus is Cybertruck's onstage broken window equivalent, which got people talking about the Cybertruck.
It is still super impressive. They reliably walked amongst the crowd for hours. No other humanoid could handle that
The goal was to attract the best engineers in the world, same as happen with space X which landing a rocket was classified impossible and it was done prior than everyone believe, if the goals are no ambiguous the progress will be slow so it is possible and challenging but not impossible
Your point about setting ambitious, seemingly impossible goals to drive progress is well taken, and SpaceX's accomplishments are indeed extraordinary. However, it's important to note some key differences between SpaceX and Tesla, which impact their approach to innovation and goal-setting.
SpaceX’s success comes in part from its unique market position with little competition. By pioneering commercial spaceflight and focusing on reusable rockets and long-term goals like Mars colonization, SpaceX has built an early lead over rivals like Blue Origin and NASA. This near-monopoly allows SpaceX to take bold risks and set ambitious goals without the immediate pressures that come with fierce competition.
Tesla, however, faces a very different reality. Once leading the electric vehicle market, Tesla now contends with numerous competitors-legacy automakers and new EV companies alike-forcing it to continually innovate just to maintain market share. Additionally, achieving full autonomous driving is far more complex than developing reusable rockets. While rockets operate in a controlled environment governed by predictable physical laws, autonomous driving must account for the unpredictability of human behavior, making it a far more challenging and multifaceted problem to solve.
I get the concept behind having your car drive autonomously while you're sitting at home. Relaxing or at night when you're sleeping, but you can't plan spontaneous events. What happened to the event of an emergency and you need to jump in your car and rush somewhere? What happens if you get that late night text from a certain lady telling you to come over. Now you have to stand and wait for your car to come back from wherever the hell it is in the city or order a Lyft or Uber when you have your own car.
I'd 1,000% buy an E-Reader that has built-in AI voices that read the books. Turning every book into an audiobook.
Why not just subscribe to Audible and use your phone? The cost of a new device could buy you probably more audiobooks than you could reasonably listen to in several years
@@johnnyw525 Hey thanks for the suggestion. But I want Darth Vader to read to me.
Edit: I'm joking about Vader. I just think it'd be cool to scroll through different voices for a particular book to find one that I personally like. No offense to anyone but there's some authors who read their own audiobooks but don't have the voice for it. I still listen anyway but.
Seems like it's a software feature Audible/Spotify/audiobooks in general will try to develop for use within an app, but voice actors would probably take huge issue with it
@@thanos879The actor is dead so there's no way to get his consent for that.
@@MindAndMyth Sorry, I should've made it cleat that I was joking. I wouldn't expect this theoretical device to have any famous voices.
If the robot can cook and go shopping, I definitely would want one - this costs so much time every day
The taxi service could work in some of those newly designed cities popping up outside of metro areas. The townhouse/shopping center/park-themed places that have the self-driving taxis.
These clowns smooth brained the use cases. They could easily be geo-fenced to only support local routes. I live in a series of 4 beach communities w a LOT of oldsters who could use my 3 robotaxis (yes, I will buy them the day they’re announced) all day. 2 seats and room for groceries would be fine.
’I am very happy with the amount of people who complimented David on the jacket that hes wearing cause that thing looks awesome
I'm actually shocked how they throw around spaceflight terms without much understanding. Maybe invite Everyday Astronaut or someone from NFS for stuff like this.
I had a similar reaction. They also seem to be echoing one another's negativity. A lot of what they're saying is easily refuted. Just a bunch of bros bagging on something they don't really understand.
Most of the time I'm watching the pod, I'm also retouching images of cars. Generative tech has sped up my workflows quite a bit and I think the results are equal to what I used to produce without the tech.
Highlight and shadow clipping indicator visible on David and Andrew 😂
Imagine waking up and seeing how many tickets your car got when you was asleep or when you was at work. Pretty big Bill to me.
This is not how I expected to discover that Ellis is an Animaniac
1:13:35 i’ve used that same analogy when explaining the ships on The Expanse. they’re like buildings that can launch into space and come back down. absolutely wild
40,000 deaths from car crashes every year. I’m ready to take humans out of the loop.
Who will be liable for AI accidents that will definitely happen?
@@theobservarator6424 insurance, just like now but much cheaper because accidents will happen less often and be less severe. Ai don’t get drunk or distracted or race each other but you’re right it won’t be perfect but a hell of a lot better than 40k loved ones dying EVERY YEAR.
@@TheGreatestJuJu
Who's insurance?
Mine?
I'm liable for an AI killkg someone?
@@theobservarator6424 No, the company that charges you for the software. They will have insurance and the customer will pay for it through a built in higher cost for the software license. However, crashes should get much more infrequent the more people are using Ai. Ai can react faster than any human and can see in all directions at the same time and can calculate trajectories and tolerances that a human couldn’t. It will drive superhuman.
Right now, getting in your car and driving is the most dangerous activity anybody does with their day. It’s a false sense of security because there’re many crashes, including fatal crashes, that happen everyday where the driver had zero input into the outcome.
I get why people don’t want to ‘trust’ a program with your life but programs are more predictable than humans. If I have to risk my life, I’d rather it be in the most predictably safe way possible.
@@TheGreatestJuJu No, that's not the question, the question is who is going to prison? The self driving algorithm engineers? The CEO? Or the owner of the company?
I spent this whole episode waiting for David to aplogize about the Wild Robot
As on old (70s) IT geezer, I'm not going to watch your how to YT stuff, but I love the fact you've put it out there for the younger generations. Thanks.
Biggest difference between Starship and Flacon 9 is that Starship can hual 100 people to space while Falcon 9 is designed to take 4, sure plus cargo but its not meant for much more. Plus landing legs require maintenance after a launch so no legs means no fixing
Kind of sad seeing you young guys acting like old men. Conservative, negative, grumpy, no vision and even worse: lacking in knowledge/understanding
The problem is the inefficiency of space with cars. Regardless of whether it's running about all day picking up people, it's inherently inefficient both in terms of people per square meter and its "access" to places. Buses and trains stop at a single, purpose-built location (usually) on the high-efficiency route and rely on people walking or rolling to that location. They used the example of school pickup - we have vehicles doing school pick up and it's *clearly* a bin-fire when it comes to efficiency.
A car is not the size of a car, it's the size of the footprint of the car when it's being stored plus the size of "space" taken when it's in motion - which is always bigger than the actual car.
I never doubted you guys for a minute
5:00 Screw Kindle since Amazon decided they had the right to automatically delete content off your Kindle without your permission.
1:19:28 I am glad they give SpaceX credit for the actual amazing stuff they are pulling off. Too often people are bitter or upset with Elon Musk so they either ignore his achievements or pretend they don't matter.
I wasn't intending to procrastinate for 3 hours, but I'm glad the podcast is FINALLY here so I can do my dishes! I'm going to have to use my (probably not genuine) AirPods, because my phone's on 1% and needs to charge, lol.
What was I procrastinating on? My iPhone 16 models, which have been overtaken by my iPad Mini 7 model! It should be very easy since it's just a scaled down Air (with a dimmer screen than the Air) this year. Nonetheless, the dishes await me!
Bro u use iphone 16 with fake airpods?
@@christopherkaliati8480 *Samsung Galaxy A03 Core, lol. The battery life on my iPhone 8 Plus is...questionable.
You guys really should look into what Space Xs contract was, vs what they produced, and what is new vs what they are just repeating
Was nervous….i saw the audio only version of this was available…didn’t see the video and now yay! Ha
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode
you guys made me nervous! Glad to see the fam, thanks for another Friday! Hope you all have a great rest of your weekend!
The most insane thing discussed in this video is the 2 hours and 40 minutes daily commute.
Someone should have asked one of the fake Tesla robots a math question to find out if it was a person hiding behind a curtain somewhere. That would have been really funny if the response was super delayed and wrong lol
😂😂😂😂. Just a long multiplication such as 8383×4737
@@dnn32 lol 😂. I’m sure the “robot” would have said it’s not programmed to respond to math problems at the moment or some bs like that 😂
I really feel the only way to make this feasible is to have swappable battery stations that it pulls up to the battery gets swapped with robots, the vehicle swept, and maybe a human look over.
The studio video was awesome. Almost an hour but went by in a flash!
Thank you! We're giving that human way too much energy
Ayyyyyy 1:07:12 Sri Lanka 🇱🇰 mentioned..... and finally we have something :)
Let's go lad finally we have something 😂😂
At least they’ve heard about us
Ellis is the voice in my head reacting to everything from the Tesla event
David came back in styleee
40:20 Ellis is the goat for a reason
Just off the top of my head, a bus does not address: door to door transport & privacy/safety. The people who say busses are great generally don’t use them.
@sravtheshark orr alternatively--from my perspective--he's just wrong
@dannylemmon
As someone who does use busses regularly, they r pretty much door to door if implemented correctly with within walking range bus stops with good service
Also is privacy that important when u consider that they r cheaper, better on environment and can be used by people who don't have a cool 30k lying around ?
its going to be so much fun watching MKBHD vs Tesla bulls feud !!
"tell me if there's any flaws in logic with this dream: you have a car-"
well i found the flaw lol
Haha true
Not that the earth rotates that fast. More that you launch in an arc to accelerate into an orbit rather than straight up (essentially getting to a point where you fall so fast forward that you keep missing the earth over and over). Hence the little flip maneuver the first stage does to get back to the pad and the continuous burn of the second stage to accelerate into a stable orbit.
If Waveform has a million fans, I am one of them. If Waveform has ten fans, I am one of them. If Waveform has only one fan, that is me. If Waveform has no fans, that means I've probably done the dishes already, lol.
The chances are slimmer than my moustache, but one can dream! 😝🗣️🗣️🗣️
I already take a nap on my commute, it’s calling riding the bus or train 😂
Finally 🎉 kept refreshing my feed all morning lol
The Super Heavy booster that landed on the chopsticks is 233 feet tall. The Starship they launched with them is 165 feet and with the Super Heavy boosters included, it's almost 400 feet. I think you got the launched and landed things mixed up a bit.
I’ve been waiting 168 hours for this… happy Friday!!
The Idea of reusing rockets had NASA way before SpaceX. The boosters of the spaceshuttle all landet in the sea and were reused. And the spaceshuttle of course was reused too.
It's literally not the same thing😭... And the Shuttle costs $1.6b per launch and this one is gonna cost SpaceX like 10-20m.
@@symply_ajay It's not about the price, that's why I haven't mentioned the price. Marques said literally that rockets were always single use and dropped into the ocan. He also said "How do you reuse a rocket if it lands into the ocean". He said that SpaceX was build around the idea of reusing rockets and implied with this and the other things that this was not the case before.
But the reusing of rockets is not new.
If Marques had just said that SpaceX made reusing rockets a lot cheaper then I wouldn't have any problem with that.
@@Anigma9400 I wouldn't say that's 'reuse' when it's expensive af
@@symply_ajay Then look up the definition of the word reuse.
A large portion of components were removed and replaced before each flight. It could not be directly reflown, without a lengthy refurbishment. Re-use in this context mean no or minimal refurbishment, other than refueling
I've been saying y'all need to add Ellis screaming "ALLEGEDLY!!" to the sound board
Just got a cava bowl for lunch! Thank the heavens y'all uploaded.
These guys are more exited about an iPad with pretty much the same specs than the previous ones than a fricking humanoid robot, that's crazy 🤣🤣
They can't put their wallpaper app on the robot
I mean I'm more excited for lunch than the tesla robot. We've had humanoid robots for ever.
Waves and Cruz stocks went up after the Robotaxi event. Their investors liked the Robo show!
I REALLY agree with the take “why not a bus?” For the Tesla event showcase. Public transportation like buses & trains are wayyy more efficient at getting a large amount of people from point A to point B. It’d be cool to see stuff from Tesla for electric, full-self-driving buses, rather than inefficient 2 seater cars that get stuck in traffic.
because americans don’t like public transportation, they loooove their cars.
@@AdhiNarayananYR Also, when compared to other countries, a lot of people in the US do not respect the property of public spaces
In San Francisco, the majority of Waymo rides are from homes to a train station
@@goofybryson I think a lot of people feel the way you do. But let me try and persuade you. Public transportation suffers from two issues. First, it's filled with strangers with all sorts of problems (smell, noise, crime, or even just uncomfortableness). Secondly, most people aren't going from point A->B they are going from point C->D and the bus doesn't go to those places. So they have to walk or Uber to get from C->A->B->D.
Walking 15 min to a bus station (at best) then waiting up to an hour (assuming it didn't arrive early and you missed it), and then walking again to your destination.
Most of the US is spread out, and the density doesn't make a bus a viable option
The name of the arms that catch the rockets is cooler then tweezers, i heard them calling them Chop Sticks, which blows my mind if you think about where that probably came from and how they control this thing. (engineering/ training model) Respect 🙌
Scott Manley and Everyday Astronaut are the space goats
My Friday has been restored!
Betting on what comes out first, the roadster or the robotaxi.
Do you guys have a magnet near the David and Andrew camera, or maybe stockpiling nuclear material in the room? 😅 There's camera fizzle throughout the video, on Andrew's white shirt around the left arm and David's hair and back of his collar. An example is at 1:20:57
A.I. Company: “I have a concept of an idea”.
Yes and a bunch of reviewers who have no experience in hardware and software manufacturing knows better 😂
The last Studio channel's video was a BANGER 🔥
It’s the start of the weekend guys here in the UK, and of course we start it off with the brilliant WaveForm podcast.❤
Starship is Height: 120 meters (394 feet) when fully stacked (Starship + Super Heavy booster).
I feel tech podcast should make people excited about the future not criticising everything can we a bit more optimistic. I don’t think they realise how negative these lot have become in recent times. I am sure I am not the only one. We need hope for tech than just plain criticism
I think they strike a good balance. The SpaceX stuff is very exciting and they are rightly enthusiastic. Elon dropping insane promises to get his stock up is not exciting and they are rightly cynical.
we need a long form episode on David’s outfit
I do not understand why you are so confused about that we, robot event lol. Especially because your analyse of it is still exactly on point. They just put out a very cool vibe, image and inspiration of their future goals. Which IMO was very succesful.
You have a clear image of what their robotaxi is going to look like, and they made it pretty clear they just need to start it somewhere, small at first and than see how and where and when they can roll it out bigger and quicker. It will probably accelerate on the way.
Clearly their robots were human assisted but you get a very clear view of what they already can, compared to their robot man in a suit, than their clunky bots, now they have their pretty awesome robots than can already move around and do some moves autonomous and they felt confident moving it out into an event like this doing all these things but obviously they still need to assist it in many ways to make sure everything goes smoothly.
It's just an inspirational vibe and setting and they rocked that. Furthermore we just need to keep faith in the way they are trying to get this into reality which to me seems like the smartest way to actually get to where they want to go. Obviously the exact timelines and frames will be somewhat unreliable, we will have to see as it progresses.
I still think their plan is very on point, their vision is very clear, their approach is clearly mapped out, their products very clearly shown and demo'd. IMO all a big succes, awesome vibes. Would love to see it all happen in the coming years.
We know exactly what their current FSD is capable off, if not you can easily find videos of it or do test drives of it. They are not 100% there yet but clearly close and accelerating and also investing in that acceleration and they are also at a point of increasing returns. newer versions rolling out all the time. The plan was to get it to a point where they could jump from autonomy 2 to 5 but that seems difficult for different reasons so they start this autonomos robotaxi that they can roll out in clearly controlled and mapped small licensed places and grow that as it goes. It is also very clear how this new robotaxi can be 30k if you compare it to their current model 3 and y, take out 50% of the stuff and get this cheap stripped down version of it for robotaxi. You don't need a lot of stuff in a robotaxi because its a taxi not your car.
A bus needs a driver, a schedule, management etc. The robovan is just a gimmick now to counter the blabla capacity arguments that were obviously gonna happen without it there. But I can imagine having specific buslines that you would like to connect which you could easily map and try set up a robovan which you can carefully monitor at first and than as it works just let it more and more go on its own and than expand it. It's just another form and way that they could slowly experiment this and scale it up as they build their experience. It's a very cheap win win controlled way of getting to where they want to go. You should not see this as the jump from to the end product but as a step to get there.
I bet bringing out this event gave them a ton of real world data on people taking their first generation robotaxi's and also a ton of data on their optimus robots trying out some simple tasks and having them out in a public setting with real people. They have all their controlled environment data in their factory but at some point they have to get it out of there into somewhere. This was just another good way of making a small first step gathering data, giving it a try, see how it goes and what to work on. also giving people a glimpse of what they can now and a vision of where they aim to get it.
I don't look at this all saying hey this is not their end product yet and I don't have specs yet. I just see it as hey what a cool event, what a nice way to make a start getting some real world data, and what a good way of looking for ways to make steps to get to where they want to go.
Obviously it is too early for Tesla for all of this still now. But it gives me a lot of confidence seeing the way they are generating the steps they need now to get there. Their plan is becoming more and more clear to me and gives me a lot of insight and clarity tbh.
I guess people are just so used to companies keeping all their info inside, protected and only rolling something out when it's ready. All Elon Musk's companies are just enjoying pushing the technology and showing what they got and where they are as they go. IMO that is great, it started this whole community of people making videos of it, this whole generation interested in it and following their steps step by step. It is great to be able to look into the kitchen like that in the companies that are literally pushing for the future as they go. These events and their open kitchen is also what makes them attract 95% of all talent in the world. They are consistently number 1 and 2 and 3 for top companies where high performing students want to go and work for. That is what most of their events are about, showing us our kitchen, attracting the talent they want and need.
But yes it's very different from most exisiting s&p 500 companies. And a lot of people who enjoy it are happy with it, but at the same time it seems to over and over confuse people expecting their standard s&p 500 companys management and marketing styles. For me it is mostly confusing why most standard analysts keep getting confused about this company just doing this different for valid reasons which have been obviously working for them very well so far.
It's so cool that Scott Manley became an actual engineering youtuber
Well, fsd is already very good. 2 years doesn't sound too stupid to me. But hey we can only wait and see!
Exactly. Every few months the FSD early adopters are posting TH-cam videos showing the improvements.
More like every few days. That paired with the 20x increase in Tesla's compute means faster improvement and more focus on edge cases, now that the base challenges of driving are mostly solved
Well FSD is not good enough to get govt permission to be fully unsupervised, but I’m sure 2 more years and it will get there! I’m also sure i heard this before already
@@37racso yeah that's what I meant, but if Trump get's elected maybe a bit quicker 😅
That Studio video was great!!! A lot of really helpful tips I made note of as I shift my channel!
Sweet! It’s officially Friday!
The price of uber is a combination of the state and uber. So if the state puts a bunch of permits and requirements, i could see them making the price too high for anyone to want to drive in it.
Nyc rideshare had alot of crazy requirements for drivers compared to other states.
The complete lack of vision going on here is pretty frustrating. It won't all happen tomorrow but it will happen. It will also evolve in unexpected ways and everyone will pivot.
Why the insane amount of negativity?
Because Tesla is talking about something they know can’t happen anytime soon? And they gave themselves a ridiculous timeline to make it happen? We already saw the movies about these ideas - if that’s all Tesla wanted to show (and not any actionable products/ideas) then they’re simply late
Who cares if they are late?
@@37racso I use FSD every day. It is incredible and it is quickly accelerating towards driving better than humans. It did take them a while to get all the pieces in place. But it's here. Much like every revolutionary product Tesla promises. They turn the nearly impossible into merely late.
To be clear, I believe Elon Musk exhibits problematic behavior and could benefit from serious therapy. However, the engineering teams at Tesla and SpaceX are accomplishing some of the most remarkable feats in modern engineering. While it's uncertain how long this momentum will last, the progress toward autonomous vehicles has reached a point where their widespread adoption seems inevitable.
What will happen? If this is possible then Tesla wouldn't sell it but instead use it for themselves. Why would they sell automatic money making machines to others?