GUESS WHAT.. MORE SAND AND I'M LIKING IT
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- I'm getting used to this sand and I'm starting to like it!
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Considering that I pay outrageous prices for my totally clueless hvac guy, I can’t imagine what it must cost to hire this guy.
He costs the right amount
Lmao customer problems
He charges perfectly.
That sand is insane Chris! Alright, Alright Love the coke nose at the end. Wouldn’t be a video without the obligatory coke nose. 😂
I love blooper reels. This is gonna be good.
The drift with the probes is due to elevation changes and the barometric pressure, usually.... The acceleration time on that VFD was pretty fast in my opinion. I personally like a minimum of 30 seconds acceleration and 45 seconds deceleration. I mostly set them for 45 and 60 ( for a blower ). I've had to drill the liquid line many times....it works great. I recommend using the Phase 3 acid test kits to check your oil for contamination. I really like the fact you prepared for the future with the iso valves on the drier. You see that a lot with larger equipment. You take things much further than most companies who work on RTU's. I respect the fact you don't take the quicker route and take the correct course of action.
The fieldpiece probes have a real issue with drift and it's bigger than an elevation change. Ive got probes that dont drift at all no matter the elevation change
@HVACRVIDEOS good to know. I have Testo so no real world experience with FP. Have you ever sent them in for calibration
Chris is fortunate that he has customers that allow him to bill for that extra RTU work, because most third-party customers want the very bare minimum……and that’s all they’re going to pay for.
@@arthouston7361 Yeah, customers often are not able to calculate properly. Maintenance work goes unnoticed when everything is functioning as expected. People only tend to notice maintenance when something goes wrong. This can lead to the perception that they are paying for something they're not actively using or benefiting from. This mindset comes also often when you are part of a chain/franchise. Maintainance has to be payed by the franchisee while equipment swapouts payed by corp.
@@HVACRVIDEOS your the best
Building a town in an environment barely liveable - like a desert, what could possibly go wrong...
I think this is a case for "the biggest picture ever". Since abandoning this town is no possible solution at the moment, all the equipment must be made ready for this environment:
- ALL contents of the cabinets in a closed space in the basement or at least far away from any dusty/sandy air so only the bare minimum of equipment needed on the roof stays there.
- Installing cyclone sparators for the make up air and the air for the condenser so the filters have a lot less to do. Having only mimimum sand in the equation helps a lot.
- Perhaps rooftop units are not suitable in this environment. Sure, space in the basement is for storage, space on the ground floor and possibly first floor is for customers, but in the end the 20-50m² used for all this equipment would be a benefit in the long run.
@deineroehre But how to convince customers to spend the money when they often decline basic PM?
@@adamdnewman This is where regulations are most useful. Make it a requirement for anything new. Either they close up, find ways to not need active cooling, or install the parts needed.
Haha, basements in the desert southwest, your funny😂
I would recommend the control panels use "purge air". This is the principle used in gas stations: filtered, clean air is forced (by fans) into the control panel spaces to pressurize them. This allows for sophisticated electronics (like those entertaining screens with the trivia) in paces where the gasoline fumes would otherwise cause fire hazard. In a desert, it would keep dust out.
@@quietone610 no offense but think again: these customers already don’t change filters every so often for the air they breathe. Do you think they will change them on a electronic compartment ? Better sand airflow than nothing…
Usually, my holder word is "fuck". At least yours can make it to your video bloopers.
He's definitely getting a call from the local desert asking back for the sand, but jokes asside, its impressive how even after that it still had 2/3 of the compressors ok
You love sand, replacing contractors... it keeps you in work!
Hello from UK
With the volume of sand in that environment, it'd almost be beneficial to use a vortex sand seperator to isolate the sand from the filters!
So even sandstorms cannot clog the filters, only the finest of dust.
Hey Chris, do you think you could cut open a filter dryer and show the difference between HH and regular dryer?
I don't think you'd be able to see the difference, at least without using a microscope to compare the porosity of the cores. they'd be formed out of smaller diameter material and have smaller pores.
Your Customers obviously Appreciate your Consistent and Strong 💪 Efforts if they are willing to Pay you for two (2) hours of Travel Time in both Directions. 🤔👍🙏
When you first had it open and were moving that sand around with your hand I was just thinking of commenting about what we used to call “glamis fever” or sea fever. Anyone who’s ever gone out motorcycle riding in the dunes that hasn’t been there before almost always gets super sick after being in glamis or ocotillo wells, and it’s from the nasty dirt that blows around not just from the salton sea but from all the geothermal activity out there that pumps sulfur, c02 etc out especially like the mud pots, then the wind blows the dirt around and you breathe all that mess in. Glad to see you mask up before blowing the junk off that AC.
I enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing them
Thanks so much for the support!!
21:48 I love how you can see the refrigerant boiling out of the oil
To clean out those units, you might need a good shop vac. (and then the wind will still bring plenty more)
well, Alright ;)
I was thinking of a shop vac to clean out all that dust as well, since he knows it'll blow into the bar!
I was an electrician for over 40 years. The way they wired the mains in that compartment pisses me off. I know copper is expensive but they could have shaped the mains a lot better. It would not have been that much more money to dress those wires professionally!
Did i notice you using the new Leviton wago-style outlet as your cheater plug? Thats a really neat application for that cool outlet
I just love that reliable wago style connections on outlets is "new" in the US :D Has been the default in Europe since at least the mid 90s :D
Yeah my co worker Will made that
When a breaker trips and you go and reset it and it instantly trips again, don’t keep trying, you have a problem.
"Customers been tripping..." 😆
I love the way that you go the extra mile and check for all possible problems to save a call back. Well worth the time.
Loose lug on the contactor burned off the lead, then of course single phased it.
I think we need to design a pre-filter system, similar to, say, a centrifugal flow system in some large manufacturing facilities, to drop out some of that fine sand before the regular filters. I think it could be done somewhat inexpensively. Probably would have to be inexpensive as I think there would be a small number of use cases...
Man. I wish I worked for you before moving out of CA. Another awesome vid.
Be sure to video the compressor autopsy before burial Good vid ... Thx
Alright, alright, alright, haha. And I have the same struggle with my moustache.
We take these units for granted, but they're everywhere and quite complex systems internally.
5:02 It's funny noticing the differences in what we call things.
You call it "the tone feature", I call it "beep-o-graph mode".
Wow😮 I've never seen that much sand good job as usual Cris
It sounds like the Restaurant Manager needs to go up and check all the A/C Filters weekly and call for new ones every 3-4 weeks (or as needed) based on how much sand is in them...
This was certainly a different video! The main video had a ton of great info in it and the bloopers were a bit of fun as well. It's good to see your lighter side. I have a moustache as well and I get where you're coming from with that with those hairs occasionally irritating like crazy.
It was a bit of a surprise with the compressor oil with you using metric units for once when you said 'one point six litres' instead of your usual imperial units... I was wondering if you were feeling alright when you said that! You seem to have a thing against metric units.
Old machinist trick, put grease in the flutes of the drill bit, it will keep the shavings from going where you don't want it.
Chris, have the customer get the electrician to replace that breaker. Resetting it multiple times into a short has burned the contacts and it WILL fail soon. Seen it happen too many times in my career.
Only way to stop filters plugging up would be to eliminate OSA and fresh air. Need to invent a sand detection sensor and shut down air intakes. They have the same sand issue on the Navajo reservation
I was thinking a different direction, i would think using like the Dyson vacuum or propane forklift intake separator, and scaled for the volume, would be the way to go. Maybe a general 'storm incoming, turn off' wouldn't be bad also
The Load of Knowledge in ur Head 2 du this kind of job has 2 b ASTRONOMICAL !!
LOL'S
It's very Impressive how u make the jobs look so easy even with the Help, Apprentices ?
Anyhooo, luv the Channel .
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I sneezed every time sand blew out. I started in the hvac-r trade and transition to steam engineer. Thank you for your videos. Sometimes I miss being on the rooftops troubleshooting units.
Yup, good ol' sand. Gotta love it.
The alright outro was GOLD 😂😂
360p early club, I love Sunday nights!
You could weigh the old and new compressors to get an idea of any oil loss round the system. (assuming no internal design changes have been made to the compressor)
Edit: Wow that oil looks nasty!
I found some replacement compressors , same capacity , same style . same brand , weighing less than the old ones 😮
I wonder if they cut back on the copper 🤔
@@philltafolla yeah, for sure don't go by the weight, unless they're manufactured within a short time frame of a few weeks. even then a change of material could alter the weight.
@@throttlebottle5906I never do but yes I agree 🤷🏻♂️
Another interesting case study on a failed compressor
Anyone that says you shouldn't have a trap needs to go look at line sets with long vertical runs… Depending on the engineering, there will be traps every 15 to 25 feet! As you stated, it causes velocity to increase and eventually that increase carries the accumulated oil back to the compressor…
Wow, 61000 BTU per compressor. That's massive! Lol. And I thought a 24000 BTU unit was big.....
Great Video. Thank you for sharing
Alright, Great Work!
I think the second stage needs to be looked at again, that compressor jumped at start up and has lost a least 2 of the hold down bolts and another is about to get tossed too.
Pluged filters with very good compressors are more probably to inflict a fault than with older ones just because the system performs closer to the limit.
Wow air blower was helpful
Thanks for acknowledging your Helper named Will.....
I had the same thing in MQ when i was looking at a single compressor on a goodman 20 ton. I put it in as a 10 ton so it calculated for 4k cfm even though i had 8k, so the BTU estimation was all out of wack
I love your massively overcharged filter dryer’s 👍👍👍.
Something my father taught me when I was young .
Never be a lowball bid on the job cutting corners. Comes back and bite you and your name in reputation on the line..
And I know you of all people know this . 👍
I’ve done mechanical work my whole life, but I did have a part-time job for 19 years as a broadcaster, including being a rock DJ at the foremost rock station in Philadelphia….so I’m going to suggest that this video needed a Music bed of “Enter Sandman.” 😅
just an interested bystander but thanks for the vids, always interesting 👌🍻
"alright alright alright!" and coke nose, lol (mo-guy problems, i feel ya)
Coke nose. That caught me off guard lol. Im having that same issue
Good job sir 👍🏾
In the immortal words of matthew mcconaughey, alright alright alllright
Good job Chris.
Awesome 👍
Nice video
They should have manual (or automatic) switches to shut all units down during a sand storm.
That being said and people not taking responsibility, they might not care enough to trigger it. And there needs to be ventilation when the building is occupied and so on...
I'll keep quiet and continue watching. Thanks for sharing!
At 1:25 ---When visiting the Coachella Valley, keep an eye out for the Lennox rooftop air conditioner - it's a Landmark where you'll find Chris!
People in the marketing department actually got paid to choose the name "Landmark" for the model name - a word that has absolutely nothing to do with anything related to air conditioners.
Ha Ha great point!
sandman back at it again
Will has a bright future...
Aw man, ya had us thinking we were gonna see the compressor cut open 😢
Alright, another fine video! One question, why are the cups used to collect the oil wrapped in electrical tape?
Always irks me when people put on those “Emergency disconnect” stickers on, when it’s not an emergency disconnect, every time lol
Wire burned off due to loose connection. The contactor stuck because of constant locked rotor amps on remaining contacts. The compressor winding was destroyed by continued single phasing due to stuck contactor. At least that's my scenario.
I ordered 2 hats and a sticker last week
Thanks so much
All right
You can really see how much refrigerant is trapped in the oil at 22:40 the cup on the right is bubbling like a fizzy drink.
About 5:50 you can see the red wire seems to be gone from the contactor, the question is more, was this before the compressor shorted, or after? And I just don't get why you guys in the US dont have sealed electrical cabinets. Everything would just life that much longer.
Price of procurement. I’ve seen customers discussing 300€ additional costs for their 30k€+ Unit.
6.7 cups is your answer for 1.6 litters
That sand is unbelievable! Here in Chicago we don’t have a sand problem, in some areas it’s the random bullet holes that wrecks the package units.
fine abrasive particles vs anything mech or electro-mechanical, what could go wrong? ⚡
Looks like they need some sort of sand separator on the intake for that thing.
Those air filters, look like they are filled with fine silt, by looking at the video. (Would see near a dry lake or in this case, possibly Salton Sea shore line / earth.
Alright. Wasn't what you initially suspected. But, everything turned out alright.
I would instanlty purchase a bigg ol sun hat from you
hi i thought you would have also changes the contactor for the first compressor because 1 of the contacts looks different just to make sure it does not fail and ruin another compressor 24:13 they might have gotten sand in them
Hello man. 🤘How are you? Great videos BTW! I have a question, why don't they make dryers with connectors that can be screwed on and not soldered? cost cutting?🙃
Sooooo alright
Could you have used a flare filter instead of a soldered in this situation. Thanks.
Yes I could have but this location is very far from my shop so I prefer not to chance it with a flare, I will discuss this live on TH-cam this evening 11/13/23 @ 5:PM (pacific) come on over and check it out th-cam.com/users/livenmRWMlwKUMo
Out of curiosity, do bring the dust problem up with the customer and recommend monthly filter changes?
Man it's probably a phased out contactor
So was it flooding with liquid or high suction temperatures, can’t be both you have to pick one, but to save you the trouble the compressor failed due to single phase situation from loose connection on contactor someone replaced
Even if the sand/dust was chemically clean, breathing it in is still an EXTREMELY bad thing to do as the fine particles can get all the way down into your lungs, causing scarring and eventually Lung Cancer...
ALWAYS wear a mask when doing something that causes flying dust (sanding, grinding, Painting etc.)...
Off the fact that 5 pounds 8 ounces is a different amount than 5,8 pounds is killing me.
yeah coz metric
I'm only half way through so maybe its addressed, but lowering blower speed to get a higher delta T lowers capacity.
It is important to remember that a joke like this is a lot funnier if the viewer doesn`t know its coming. It may be better if you put the outtakes to open your video. still funny tho🤣
You should sell some arm sleeves
Alright alright
One thing I'm sure of...this video was alright.
A simple ferrule, a 0.1 cent part, could have prevented this (at least the burned contactor)
I still don't get it, why nobody uses these?
Other things I don't understand:
This AC has an 80A breaker (?) going in with 8 gauge wire (?) to a terminal block dividing it into 14 gauge. So in the event of an short or even just overload, the 14 gauge has to pass current to trip the 80A breaker. That would severely overload the 14 gauge wire, just as it did in this case. And the weakest link was the stranded wire screwed in without a ferrule (thinking about that: maybe without that weak point acting like a fuse, the whole wire would have burned up setting stuff on fire)
Why there aren't any kind of motor protection switches that detects single phasing and over current on an per-compressor basis? Also protecting the small wire from passing 80A
Such a thing costs like 50 bucks. Against the 500 for a new compressor, that's a no-brainer
Is there a way to put on some cyclonic dust separator on these, or totally impractical? The separator would have the added benefit of keeping the filters cleaner for way longer, even without the sandstorms. It's insane how loaded those media filters got!
I was thinking exactly the same thing, but I have to wonder how large something like that would have to be to handle the air flow. It probably is just cheaper to replace the filters and deal with the occassional burned out compressor.
is there a filter that is better able to handle the fine sand. I'm thinking along the lines of an oil bath filter used on off road vehicles? Or maybe a differential pressure switch to alert the owner to blocked filters.
I'll bet the compressor got single phased. Probably started with sand in the contactor
Yumm
question for the commercial guys... do you often have to set up a ladder or is there usually a built in ladder either in the building with a hatch somewhere or on the outside? Justa curious resi guy wanting to make the swap
Chris is bad as the sand storms are there I would not allow O/A dampers to open. Not only is that sand destroying their equipment but it's not good indoor air quality . That's just horrible for those filters.
I will discuss this live on my Q and A livestream this evening 11/6/23 @ 5:PM (pacific) on TH-cam come on over and check it out th-cam.com/users/livePTHaWVNvUjk
if the drier gets clogged wouldn't that mean there are still contaminants in the system? in that case wouldn't you change both the drier and refrigerant?
Well it really depends, for the most part refrigerant can be cleaned... I will discuss this live on my Q and A livestream this evening 11/6/23 @ 5:PM (pacific) on TH-cam come on over and check it out th-cam.com/users/livePTHaWVNvUjk
Will 2nd and 3rd stage come on if temps are not satisfied after so many mins. Obviously set temp split can do it.
4:06 😂 😂 😂