Movies vs Reality: Amazon Stun Guns are Getting Out of Hand
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Today we convince the wife that I need a new hobby by measuring and testing out stun gun taser devices from Amazon. They sell truck loads of these but few if any are willing to try them out after buying, so how are they reviewing these? If they don't make the millions of volts they advertise, what DO they make? And does that equal a sufficient deterrent to an attacker?
We get up close and personal to find out.
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*Suggest more products with crazy specs you want to see tested below!*
If you think longer duration of the shock would make a difference, or that you could even accomplish that, I recommend this video: th-cam.com/video/me60gWzbMXw/w-d-xo.html
When last doing Horns and Lasers A LOT of you damn viewers commented about stun gun ratings on Amazon, and can't say I appreciated that at the time as the rest of the team saw those too and it was a bit of a Mexican standoff over here about doing them. Luckily Amazon came through as usual with unregulated highly exaggerated sales pitches and testing these didn't even ruin my day really. A few red marks, a little but brief soreness from the Vipertek, that's it. Please don't use or gift a stun gun as a personal defense weapon, it's likely going to do innocent people more harm than good.
If ceramic coatings aren't your style. Amazon - "magnet fishing" will show you 4 inch- 5 inch magnets with supposed strength to jack a car up.
Well, you already have one canister of pepper spray.....😉
Crazy specs that don't reflect reality at all? Man Math. The worst offenders probably wouldn't let you measure their junk on camera, though. And you probably don't wouldn't want to do the measuring anyway.
just wanna say thank you so much for doing this! it made me really happy to watch i feel like i was one of the first to suggest it btw back when you mentioned. so theres that 😄
Can you test if adjustable wrenches work better and last longer pushing or pulling?
I come for the information, I stay for the bad puns
Please, we are guys, hello? Ya just gotta test them! 🤣 I have never done it longer than a quick zap, only enough to determine that it feels like when you’re working with a live fixture and accidentally touch the power contacts. It was enough to cause muscles to cramp and convince me to behave myself around law enforcement. 😊
I came for the bad puns, I stayed for the information
The puns caught me by surprise… you could say they stunned me. Shocking I know.
I second this
reddit """humor""" 🚮
Can't believe you zapped yourselves, and RATING IT.👍 Thank you calling these companies out.
Edit: you could do a whole channel on these stun devices
"you could do a whole channel on these stun devices" I'ma stop you right there
@@TorqueTestChannel Hey. I liked where your testing is going with these toys. Can't wait till you try the good stuff.😁
"companies" lol.
@@TorqueTestChannel hahaha
It doesn't knock you out for hours like in the movies? What Hollywood lies?😂
The proper way to measure high voltage for these things is to solder wires to the electrodes, run the wires to a spark gap with calibrated spherical electrodes. Hold the stun gun under insulating oil (Shell Diala S4 ZX-IG) to prevent local discharge and measure the minimum gap. Bending the terminals can lead to sharp corners which lowers the sparking voltage. Just an FYI in case you or others are interested. Cheers.
I have tested ignition coil voltage using a pair of 50mm diameter chromed steel ball bearings. This diameter electrode requires almost exactly 3kV per mm to jump the gap. Sharp pointy electrodes will spark with much lower voltage. Not an accurate way to measure the voltage. You should also measure the energy delivered in millijoules. The duration of the spark would be useful too.
Using the insulating oil will result in gaps too small to differentiate with these all being so close. Not to mention, when I test insulating oil breakdown voltage you get a wide range for one oil sample, with 5 tests. I can get anywhere from 25kV to 55kV with the same oil sample in the same test sequence. Just not repeatable enough. Was a good idea though.
@@inothome It's the original electrodes that goes into the oil to ensure that the spark follows the wire to the test electrodes.
@@johanmetreus1268 You missed the point. Even when testing oil in a laboratory, under controlled conditions the breakdown voltage in the same oil, same cup, same electrodes and nothing changed the breakdown can vary by over 20kV. So testing the output of the stun guns can change for each test. It's not a very repeatable test using oil.
@@inothome OK, so what you are saying is that there likely will be side currents since the oil is not a reliable insulator, if I now understood you correctly?
I'm a self defense and firearms instructor.These products will not stop and aggravated attacker.The reason OC spray works even on a determined attacker, is because it causes involuntary eye closure that can't be overcome with practice.
I would think you could still train your eyes to be more resistant to OC spray, just like some people can train themselves to handle eating scorpion ghost peppers (my engineering mentor cross bred some very spicy peppers, someone cut a sliver of one of those and I was tearing up several cubes down, I had like 5 dust particles of the stuff in a bowl of chilli and I was running nose all day). Meanwhile my mentor just put tons of it in their chilli and it didn't phase them...
I would guess its like burning yourself, after a while you burn all the nerve endings off, or the flames just don't seem very hot (which can be very bad when you don't notice you're melting your skin), but one hand I have particularly high heat tolerance, and the other is still pretty high but not as much.
The better question though is, who's going to pepper spray their eyes every morning or just before bed? Probably not many people... They would just wear safety goggles or glasses at that point. So its probably not something we would ever see. But I've yet to meet a man who takes 100 rounds of 9mm and or 25 rounds of 12 ga and say's it will buff out, if they do, reload and repeat!
I tell people the same thing, pain based self defense is not a good plan. OC, TASER, or gun. Nothing else for me will do.
@@jakegarrett8109 yes and some people it doesn’t have much effect on. I’ve been exposed to it quite a bit and doesn’t bother me too much
If they're used the way they're supposed to, they *can* be incapacitating. You're supposed to jam it against an attacker and hold it there for 10+ seconds. Supposedly, that can desensitize the muscle to the relatively low voltage of a nerve firing and paralyze it.
The challenge of course is that no one is gonna stand there and let you zap them for that period of time. In the time it takes for the stun gun to incapacitate them, they could grit it out long enough to either subdue you or get away.
@@jakegarrett8109 clearly you haven’t had a Terminator after you yet.
You need to test pepper spray and pepper gel and pepper foam now. Order them and spray each other with the pepper spray to let us know which is best.
yeah for "science" 😂😂😂
We're taking volunteers.... you know, to increase the validity with sample size
@@TorqueTestChannel I volunteer as tribute! I've been sprayed twice and I'm immune (I was military police, and then was a corrections officer when I got out). Feels like a little dust in my eyes.
Nerve agents for science? ;)
If your near Virginia I’ll let you know. I’ve been pepper sprayed before. Not the end of the world
You guys should have measured the lumens of some of the stun guns in stun mode because it seems like some of the arcs were brighter than the flashlights
I've definitely used an arc as a flashlight running through my house
That's because they are brighter. Electric arcs can get bright enough to scorch your retina.
yeah some of those arcs were friggin nasty lol he should of moved those prongs like he did but hold back a bit, one of those was crackling plasma lol touch that to your belly button lol that will do it
I commend you sir, this is the torture test channel😆
🙂
This is the reason I think Amazon is pretty in a very bad shape right now, everything I searched are 1 or 2 known reputable brand plus millions of unheard Chinese brands filled with inflated reviews.
Amazon is basically a Chinese state sponsored retailer at this point. I rarely use them anymore. I'm finding other retailers are often much easier to work with. Home Depot for example doesn't sell clones of power tool batteries so I don't have to worry if it's genuine or not like with every other item on Amazon.
Some Chinese guy is just mashing the keyboard to randomly arrange letters and numbers at this point. The search is terrible and designed to avoid giving you any suggestions but the crappiest Chinese garbage at the biggest profit. It's disgusting.
Electroboom made a good video on a similar topic. In his video, he shows that for every 15,000-25,000 volts, arcs form over 1cm, which would be the distance needed between the prongs.
For the 14 million volt claim, this would mean a prong distance of roughly 700cm, 7m, or, in freedom units, 23ft, not to mention this would arc to you or anything within 23ft, which would instantly fry you.
Me wanting Palatine gloves, UNLIMITED POWA!!!
considering the power, it might also get you into trouble with th FCC because of you disturbing every communication channel in a massive range (as you need a LOT of power to arc that far) as it would likely transmit at radio frequncies.
@@NoNameForNone FCC is waived for emergencies, pretty sure you can pick up any radio and broadcast for help. Lightning bolts for self defense would clearly be an emergency.
@@jakegarrett8109 imagine trying to explain this to a judge.
“Your honor, this man attacked me so I defended myself by literally throwing a lightning bolt at him”
Was looking for this
You need to add a cattle prod for a control device for the pain scale of 10
@@notsevenfeettall Have you tried them? i had and they hurt a lot more than any stunt gun ive ever tested, they can even leave burn marks.
Yup, cattle prods have a voltage of about 65kv. Also, they have a built-in pfn due to the stand of rod that delivers the pulse at a respectable peak amperage. Ouchie.
@@notsevenfeettall They are still designed to get a stubborn 1,500 pound ruminate to move in a split second mate. Cows are super tough.
I'll take a good human taser designed not to kill but incapacitate.
@@teresashinkansen9402 I've been hit by cattle prods a few times, they are about the same as regular stun guns.
"yup, that hurts. ... Let's do it again"
Science!
@@TorqueTestChannel - And we thank you for your efforts. 🥰
The voltage required to jump a gap is also dependent upon the shape of the electrode. Sharp corners reduce the required voltage so you may be over rating the voltage produced by these stun guns.
Amazon has got to reign in these companies that advertise whatever they want
But they make lots of money on fraud!
Scamazon
Consumers need to stop buying from Amazon.
US corporation, they don't care about the quality or safety of the products they're helping to sell so long as the money keeps coming in.
Amazon gets anywhere between 8%-15% per sale, depending on the product type. Counterfeit, false advertising, or whatever, Amazon doesn't give a F- about the consumer. All they care about is the $$$.
You guys should test portable power banks. Feel like most mAh ratings are fake.
They cleaned up a lot recently. Plus if you’re shopping mAh you don’t know what you’re doing.
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad 1. Didn’t know there was a wrong way to shop for literal batteries (which are measured in mAh) made to charge your phone. 2. What’s the right way since you’re the expert?
@@MossbergSW mAh is fine as most companies calculate that from the Wh (which technically is the better way) as if there were a 3.7V cell inside. Some have multiple cells in series of slightly different cell buildups allowing for a difference in internal voltage. Also for normal batteries mAh/Wh ratings might not matter at all depending on your applications since those ratings are for very low discharge currents
The issue is that these type of „stun guns“ aren‘t that, they are purely pain compliance tools and as such don‘t work on doped up or determined people. As a less-lethal option a good pepper spray is superior.
ByrnaHD defense is even better imo if you have the finances, not susceptible to spray backfiring if the wind is blowing towards you. It is about $400-ish, but non lethal, effective enough with capcaisin balls, bear mace balls, or solid silicone balls...
This is horrible advice! Pepper spray will end up on the assailant and then it will end up all over you! Do NOT use or trust pepper spray. Ask any cop how many victims end up covered in the spray they thought would protect them
But not as fun.
First spray the bastard, and later give him pain from the shocking device!
As a solution that works, try a handgun.
I've shocked myself with these things. As far as I can tell they're pretty much useless as an actual self-defense weapon. They might work as an intimidation device but unlike a taser The user has to keep the electrodes in constant contact with the targets body and the immediate reaction to getting hit with one of these is to jump out of the way of it. I think that pepper spray is a much more effective non-lethal deterrent.
I found it like accidentally touching a live 120v electrical wire momentarily. I’ve never used one in myself longer than a fractional second.
Yeah only idiots would be afraid of these.
Sure there are always better things for sure but I've seen videos of the prongs not sticking after being fired. Or getting knocked off after the person falls.
Hell I have seen videos of people on drugs just somehow power through them and remove it.
Pepper spray is one of the worse because so many people blind themselves. Also some people have trained to resist being pepper sprayed and absolutely can power through it.
There really isn't a perfect self defense tool but these things are better than nothing for sure. You should be able to get someone to the ground and start stomping ankles or kicking heads before retreating.
@@dianapennepacker6854 You can’t resist pepper spray no matter how hard you try, the chemicals trigger an involuntary response that closes your eyes. Physically and psychologically it’s damn near impossible to train against pepper spray and that’s why it’s effective.
Here's a horrid idea: Barbed Taser Bident
Basically just the taser but the two barbed probes are larger and are at the end of a stabbing implement. Turn it on, stab the assailant, leave it in, back away.
This was an electrifying video. Shocking to see the results. Should be a jolt to manufacturers to rate things more accurately, though I think they might feel a zap in sales. I gotta bolt now, cheers
Such a negative review - can’t you see the positive side? These really have potential if they’re amped up a little bit. At least they discharged their duty testing them for the channel.
@@firstmkb Who do you think you are? Coulombo? Ohm, I get it. You just volt over all the numbers and go to the Max,well. The field is open, and the charge is on you.
After receiving a bad dog bite as a delivery driver, I purchased a Vipertek on the recommendation of the local sheriff. I've never actually stunned a dog with it, because the sound alone scares 95% of the bad dogs away on the first zap. Consequently, I've purchased more than 50 of these for my co-workers, family and friends. Oh and when you return to the homes of the bad dogs, the dogs remember you and generally keep their distance or go and hide.
I've been hit with the Taser X26 twice... 10/10 for me. I've heard the new 7 is even worse. 😬
Not too impressed with these stun guns for personal security. I've had a lot of success carrying my Thor impact wrench. I whip it out, it looks plenty serious, guys run.
I've often wondered about these. Ie, so let's say you are using it to stop an attacker, what happens when you left go of the trigger? The answer seems to be, now you have a really pissed off attacker who is not in pain anymore.
If not conceal carrying a firearm, pepper spray is really the only other self defense I support.
Yeah that's pretty much the deal. It's not like it looks like in the movies. I have shocked myself with these plenty of times before when I was younger and that you major problems are that as soon as you're done being shocked you're pretty much good to go again and the immediate reaction to one of these things touching you is to jump out of the way which will get you out of contact with it pretty quickly. This might be good for detering someone who has never actually been hit with one but other than that it's not going to do much.
The pain isn't continuous anyway. They could just push through it, since I doubt it's enough to interfere with the ability to use muscles like regular stun guns.
@@techno1561 depends on where you get shocked. If you get it in the stomach and it's held there it is pretty distracting while it's happening and I'm not sure I could actually functionally do much but Like I said the immediate reaction to something like that is to jump away from it so it would be pretty difficult to actually keep contact on someone with one.
Usually with less lethal defense items you're gonna want to run away. Tasers and pepper spray have high fail rates, even for police who would have gear better than amazon's Chinese junk, so it's not going to win you a fight or anything like a gun would.
Movies portray these things as rending people unconscious for an extended period of time. As you've shown, that's not at all how they work. People need to understand just how useless most of these things are. Criminals knows they are worthless and won't be deterred by toy stun gun. Like you said pepper spray is a better option for anyone not willing to use lethal force. I'd love to genuine cattle prods tested and compared to these. I don't think these things should be considered for self defense.
most stun guns are around 50kV. i always assumed it was because of the air gap formula and the size of something you can hold in your hand. also, they share essentially the same basic circuitry so no reason to change it up. you can get calibrated devices that deliver a very specific pulsed voltage too, often used for chemistry experiments (again, in the same 50kV ballpark)
The SLOWER the frequency of the stun gun, the more effective it is in ‘stunning’ an assailant. These high frequency toys just cause minor discomfort.
I had a 240v heated throw blanket that somehow held charge like a capacitor when unplugged an controller cord removed. I was so stunned and disbelieving of first minor kick that I went to inspect and copped a second real big one and 3rd small in quick succession. I was crook and everything ached for hours after that.
Most likely static electricity, some of those will make some huge arcs of very painful bolts, and its some blankets more than others, but the common fuzzy material they use on those blankets in particular builds up a hefty amount of static discharge that most other linens don't. I used to fear walking across the carpet and certain blankets (non-electric) because when it was very dry it was just outright painful, especially if you touched something metal afterwards.
Interestingly, if you wear socks while on a trampoline (just dragging your feet or walking), you can hold a big fluorescent shop light and the thing will strobe looking like a lightsaber. You can pretty much keep it lit almost constant (at least 50% duty cycle seemingly), especially if you slide across the trampoline when its dry out. My friends and I would do that and have slow motion lightsaber battles (swinging slow motion as to not break the glass), but we'd use like 3ft shop lights. Don't underestimate static electricity, its a powerful thing!
If it has a capacitive dropper power supply with no discharge resistor, the capacitor can store a charge and zap you through the plug prongs after it's unplugged.
Definitely want to report that to the company and consumer safety. Some old lady or kid might not be as able to tolerate the shock.
I had a hair dryer that did that!
@@jakegarrett8109 Absolutely not, if he was feeling the effects later he definitely got a belt off the power supply. In this case you can think of the static-accumulating surface like a big, crappy capacitor with an extremely high breakdown voltage, but capacity in the nano- or pico-farads.
Thank you!
4:10 Discreet🙄……yes, openly carrying a $1000 phone should deter most neerdowells😎
To be fair, that's at best an iPhone SE lookalike and at worst an iPhone 6. Far from a $1000 phone and something most burglars will happily ignore. You would be surprised how well-trained they are in identifying expensive stuff from a distance.
Against a human these are a terrible idea. Not just because of the false sense of security they give, but I imagine the shock would just piss off an attacker and get you a worse beating.
Wrong
But stun gun spark would instantly scare dog away
The part you left out is how to properly use them. Press to abdomen and hold there for three to four seconds. The one that is a seven would drop someone to the ground and incapacitate them for several minutes. Probably some of the others would too. It's not just a quick touch.
My buddy had a vipertek(?) stun gun back in the day. Seemed to be top of the line at the given time. It was loud. Could wake up a sleeping adult within seconds. I remember I walked up to him and my other friend and pretended like I was going to stun myself by flipping on the flash light, yet I actually pressed the stun button with my thumb over the probes. I just remember falling straight to the floor like someone switched off my legs. It was insane. Of course no long-term lingering pain, other than feeling like an idiot. But I was very impressed. Good times
The only reason that would drop you up the floor is because it startled you
I accidently shocked myself on the hand with one also and all I did was toss it into the air , no loss of body control or any involuntary body movements besides the jump startle
The problem is that no one forces Amazon to take care of what is published. Then they make false advertising at ease
Making money on fraud
I think contact duration matters too. Yeah .. a quick tap .. and it's no big deal, but if someone holds one of these against you for a full second or longer .. I think it will be seriously discouraging of further attack.
That's why the harpooned compressed air with insulated wire is used by police
To clarify, using the 3000V per mm, the 59B would be able to jump almost 20km…close to 24 Burj Khalifas….
So stun guns are going to be the gateway drug into the autosadism trend the channel suddenly pivots to? :P lol
I think auto-sadism is masochism. 😅
I think the flashlight part is likely to justify it as a carry able device in some places.
I would think that the key to using one of these is to aim for bare skin. Nail someone who's holding on with one of these and they'll likely let go, if only for a moment.
The smaller one's can be no more than toys though.
I gave one to a lady friend who was having issues with her neighbor. Her big and bad ass son, (6ft4in tall, 320 lbs) tells me they don't hurt and those things don't have enough power to stop a chihuahua. Then he pressed the thing to his neck and lit it up. His fat sweaty neck must have made one hell of a conductor.
That said, i didn't buy mine from Amazon, it came from a law enforcement supplier and was rated at 50kv/4.85 milliamps. About the same as a police taser. I would guess being more of a professional model, its specs are likely more accurate to reality.
The funniest part was the black burnt snake bite it left on his neck that lasted for a week or more. No amount of coaxing or cash would get him to take another shot of that thing.
His mother was mad at me in the end, probably because I was laughing so hard, as were several of his buddies.
I can't say how much it hurts, there's no way I'm nailing myself with that thing.
One thing I did notice is that it came with spare electrodes, and playing with it does burn away the contact points. It smells like someone welding when its arcing.
The key to its use is not to stand there arcing the thing and waving it around, that's only depleting the battery and the charge. Its best used only in surprise to afford an escape.
You might already know this, but....stun guns have two phases. Phase one is to make the make the repeated Buuzzzzzz for intimidation and warning. Then when it actually comes into contact with something, switched to a higher voltage to actually do damage.
Not sure if these do that, but theres that
So, they are worthless. A false sense of security is dangerous. Thanks for the video.
Generally in life, you get what you pay for. Just spend more money and get a police stun gun.
I guess you couldn't help yourself at the end and fired off your Pun Gun. LOL
Other than the ViperTek that seems like it would cause enough pain to make an attacker flinch, the rest are pretty much all flash and no bang.
the main problem with 'stun guns' is that its not really possible to maintain contact with the target long enough for the electricity to incapacitate, its why police mainly use the deployable tasers
They use tasers because they are a completely different technology that is built to actually incapacitate. A stun gun will NEVER incapacitate a human being that is full of adrenaline, it doesn't matter how long you maintain contact. There is no nuero-muscular incapacitation involved, it is entirely relying on pain compliance. Notice how people twitch and move away when zapped by a stun gun vs seizing up and are physically unable to communicate with their muscles when being hit by a taser. A baton, a big stick or your simply your fist, is thousands of times better than a stun gun if you want to invoke lasting pain compliance.
@@flyingtentacle7631 thanks for the explanation no one asked for
Which is also why it's absolute BS when in EVERY TV show, people pass out for 20 minutes after getting zapped by a "stun gun".
The reason Tasers work so well against all but the most hardened/drug fucked crims is not only the discharge electrodes being stuck to their clothing/skin, but also the waveform. Taser has done a lot of research into making their product effective at taking down attackers. The shock circuitry in a Taser actually uses a waveform that paralyzes the extremities e.g. arms and legs. Thats why targets recover so quickly after getting tased. All these things do is give you a painful electric shock, as you discovered.
The pink set is to be used together pepper spray then use the stunner as an ignition source lighting them on fire 😂
It's Cooolombs not Columns; named after French physicist Charles-Augustin de Coulomb
The ViperTek one was clear it hurt far more than the other ones. None of the other ones had you tense up after the shock.
What is the baseline of a law enforcement stun gun? That is the real life benchmark we should measure against.
That was fun. I’m impressed by your dedication to your art. When are we getting the Frankenstein V8 powered stun gun/elephant deterrent?
Great video! There is a lot of hype with these things online. That said, I think you are missing a couple of variables. As you mentioned, in a distance scenario the fear factor coming from the sight/sound is undeniably very intimidating. An attacker will probably not say "Oh that's only 40,000 volts I'm ok". What I think you are missing is contact time and target areas. While I am not suggesting that you zap yourself continually for longer periods of time in a video. In a real-life situation, the contact time will be much longer. As you said, it was very uncomfortable even with a quick touch. There is also where on the body you make the contact. Facial and groin areas are particularly more effective areas. Obviously, these place you too close to an attacker, but it's not like you always have a choice. However, with proper training, they do add an extra amount of personal safety. There is no substitute for "Situational Awareness".
Now I want a YT channel where famous people are interviewed and get stungunned between questions with increasingly painful versions. Call it Shock Ones.
1 year into the future:
"Hi, this is the torque test channel and today we're testing how much torque these thumb screws can make, as well as the advertised rate of confession..."
Be interesting to see how they compare to the legit police issue units. Maybe even cattle "persuaders" or dog shock collars.
Frequency and arc length tend to be the biggest factors that determine felt pain. Considering the very small gap, none of these “stun guns” will incapacitate a physically fit adult.
Edit
Higher voltage allows for a longer arc as demonstrated by the Viper.
High end units use a microprocessor to regulate frequency which can effect muscle spasms and cause considerably more pain.
Next I think we need to see if these can be modded for higher output. A Makita 40v battery might give a decent amount of improvement.
The electronics would just fry
@@AsdfirePLUnless they are larger and more durable?
I think these are more about scaring people off. Plus, consider the situation that you’re being snuck up on and are already in arms reach, something like a 7 may be enough to dash away long enough to pepper spray . That’s t
Props to you for riding the lightning.
The main thing that makes non commercially available stun guns lethan is the current rating, law enforcement tasers run at micro amps with low current ratings the reason they are so much more effective is the direct contact with range, more than 30000 volts for any stun gun with 1 cm spacings isn’t possible
Also you can tell pretty easily if they are bad quality by the arc, the less the colour is to the white spectrum the lower they are and the lower the lumen output the stronger they are dependant on how it is measured and on time (mainly because violet and blue have shorter wavelengths so they have higher energy = more photons but at the same frequency red emits more lumens), lower rated frequency of the pulse in relation to its current the less effective it is
You can tell by everything that the numbers are whacky and the best course of action is the colour of the arc in most cases
Very interesting video. Seems like Vipertek, which is the only moderately effective model of those you tested, is large/bulky enough that it couldn't be easily carried in a pocket or small purse, making its use case questionable. And ff you carry it in a backpack or large purse, you then have to count on being able to fish it out in the time between when you realize there's a threat and when you need to use it. Pepper spray products seem like a much better option to me.
And also ensuring that you don't zap yourself while getting it out, I didn't see any safety-feature on that one 😅
Its funny that they stole the Dodge Viper Logo xD
@@AIRDRAC It has a on/off slide switch on the bottom before you can press the zap button
@@TorqueTestChannel Ah, neat - thanks for clearing that up! I must've missed that in the video!
or a .357 mag for protection. because you might hate the truck they drove up in. lol
For self-defense I would definitely choose pepper spray over a stun gun. I've seen way to many people take a taze and keep on going. But I haven't seen anyone take pepper spray and keep going
Well you could end up pepper spraying yourself. Then you will not be able to see while you are attacked.
@@eternalbeing3339 wind direction matters!
There is an issue I have here with some of the tests. When you turn those sharp points you're changing the angle they point at eachother, which alone (even if the gap remained the same) will increase the voltage required to cross the gap. You can test this easily. See the MIT 802 class videos for an explanation I am nowhere near qualified to give.
Interesting, never knew that. Thanks!
Moral of the story: any product with a paragraph long name from a company you never heard of probably isn't something you want to trust your wellbeing to.
Product 20-A from Son and Father Inc. is indeed a lot more trust worthy, especially if the company website looks handmade and shows an industrial building that could be down the road.
I used to have a little stun gun... Like 25 years ago! It was advised as 100K but I used to shock myself with it all the time. They are a useless defense tool! People see what a tazer does and think a stun gun will do the same... Clearly they do not!
I love the idea of a produce listing on Amazon casually mentioning that it "causes intolerable pain" lmao
Way to take one for the team TTC.
I suffer from Atrial fibrillation and I can tell you unless it's leaving blisters it's not hurting.
The treatment for such is a shock from a Defibrillator. That hurts
Legitimately appreciate your work on this one. I carry a small stick one when I walk my dog just to scare off random loose dogs and the noise and smell of ozone I think makes them think twice. But might get the Vipertek for just a bit more... Tasers are just too expensive at $300.
Buy a gun...
@@chazmichaelmichaels88 Don't be an ass. Not everyone is looking to murder people or dogs.
@@chazmichaelmichaels88 Dogs don't know what guns are
@@KurtisStell Interesting, because they seem to run when they know its firing towards them. Even not firing country dogs know when you're pointing at them when they were messing with chickens, that's like saying cows don't know when the electric fence is on (they seem to be telepathic, because they know the MINUTE you turn that off, either that or they check it every minute and when its not working moo to everyone to breach the perimeter)
Tasers are that cheap? Kind of surprised for name brand.
MUCH RESPECT for this video, you tried them out, very cool. GREAT CONTENT!
Pepper spray sucks and you never get used to it, but for a few months my BJJ school had an optional "stun knife" self defense course and by like month two all fear of the stun knife had vanished and it really stopped being threatening.
Takes a man to shock theirselves over and over again especially with the sound of them things.. Hats off too ya and great videos one of my favorite channels on all of TH-cam. Been watching you guys since the beginning back with the ole semi truck lug nut tests 😂😂and it’s amazing to see the progress this channel has made.
Haha thanks man. I remember the days of semi truck lug nut tests. It's still the home screen of where we keep a lot of the data.
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If the shock didn't make you drop the stungun, it's probably not strong enough... am I right?! lol
Pro tip: If you are using pepper spray, aim for the nose and mouth (getting eyes for good measure after won't hurt) . It's a lot harder to fight if you can't breathe than if you can't see.
The interesting thing to me is how much your subjective pain metric increased with only relatively small increases in the delivered voltage. I'd be interested in seeing another video of this sort, with more reliable brands (if indeed there are any). It seems likely that an achieved 75-85KV could potentially actually be effective.
I think this really came down to the amount of time he was able to hold it. They should have rigged up a system that zaps him for 0.5 second consistently
The problem with the phone one is it may actually attract an aggressor that wants to steal your phone.
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Hey round 2 try it again! Was watching the 1st one, and all of a sudden it said it was no longer available?
Instant demonetization. Let's try this again
Hi Dave - get back to work or Im'a come try one of these out on you! 🤣
The pepper spray one is actually smart, the method is probably blind them, then if they grab hold of you shock their arm in the hopes that the sudden surprise of that pain will make them let you go.
I have that pink stun gun! I carry it alongside some mace, hidden blades, and more when I go on walks for self defence. I think for the most part, the shock itself or at least the thought of shock will deter most attackers. If not, well, I have deadlier options at my disposal. 🤷🏽♀
No it won't, if a man is actually attacking or robbing you, a bold crime, it will only piss him off and make him hit you. Get a gun and learn how to responsibly carry and use it from a trustworthy man at a range.
I have a couple older vipertek stunguns without a light and they advertised 60k when I bought them, sad to know they now jumped on the deception train
I think most of these, if held to someone for longer then a second or two will probably deter someone. I have a friend that works in the law enforcement and I asked if he works stun me. He had a genuine taser x26. He couldn't use the cartridge to shoot me some be could have gotten in trouble for that, but he did hold it against my arm the several seconds until I basically started to kneel. If he had only held it to my skin for about a second like in your video, I feel my reaction was about the same as you had with these. Time increases effectiveness with these products. If you've ever seen someone get tasered with the projectile probes, you know the officer has to hold the button for a bit until people fall over.
I was looking for a comment like this. If I want to deter somebody, my finger would not leave the zap button until the dude was leaving or twitching on the ground.
In fairness, that level of realism in testing is a lot to ask from a TH-cam channel.
The Coulomb is the SI unit of charge, and it is pronounced _/KOO-lomm/_ not _/COL-umm/_, fyi.
Generally the only place you hear about it is in physics work (and physics classes), because charge is not something we measure or deal with in everyday life. There some kind of imperial unit equivalent. If it's helpful, Wikipedia tells us that "a capacitor of one farad can hold one coulomb at a drop of one volt."
I used to do swap meets and most stun guns were junk but there was one that said 1 second for pain 2 seconds unconscious 3 seconds possible death when I discharged it the arc sounded like a gun and half the event hit the ground never seen anything like it again. If I remember correctly it said something like 500,000 volts
Interesting to watch you Zap yourself
15 or so years ago I was zapped with a stun gun that claimed 1 million volts
I agree it hurts
But I still took it away from him and EXPLAINED with kinetic impacts
That using that device on someone , just to see if it worked
Was a REALLY BAD IDEA
I love how people in movies are knocked unconscious 95% of the time when tasered. In my experience it has the opposite affect, people get very vocal and animated.
I suspect your quick reflexes breaking the contact right away might be reducing the perceived effectiveness. I suggest handing the Vipertek to your wife and telling her she looks fat as a better test of it's effect on a victim... er, perpetrator.
NOTE: Check your state and local laws, these are not legal to use everywhere.
I’ve never watched your videos before. The algorithm brought me here. The Nate Newton reference, however, got you a sub from me! Thanks for zapping yourself for science!
You should have read the instructions. You are supposed to zap ze ballz. Try again and report. 👍🏼.
Awesome content by the way. You made me spend way too much in tools lately. 😭
i would venture to say that the friphone looks like a phone so it won't be considered a weapon. like if an attacker makes you give them your phone, you can whip this one out, pretend it's a phone you're giving them and zap them at the last moment in a complete surprise. surprise is always an edge.
Can you torque test the newer SDS Ryobi hammer drills 5/8 and 1”? Their compact was garbage. Would love to see how the other ones stack up.
If only real guns were sold on Amazon, lol. The Tao Bao 9mm ultra stopping power 999,000 FPS bad guy eliminator 9000.
This might be difficult to test but:
1. Garage shelf/ rack stupid weight ratings?
2. Various too chest drawer weight ratings?
Given how you could use the thing on yourself and go back for more... I'm starting to wonder if these should even be legal to sell as self defense weapons. At that point, a loud whistle is probably more protective. Something that won't stop an attacker but just piss them off is really not good to label as protection. At least a whistle causes the red flags of attention to go way up.
Would have liked to see TASER’s StrikeLight 2 (advertised “20kV”) and/or the more expensive, but functional as a proper TASER as well, TASER Pulse’s dive stun option (no advertised voltage listed, with TASER's site not even mentioning its existance) as a baseline for the comparison.
An Axon Taser is 50,000 volts. I have one. Cost $400.
Don't know what the amps are though...
It will drop a person long enough to bolt or follow through.
I tested a few of these Chinese stun guns and most peak at about 35kv peak. The reason for testing was for a cheap trigger coil for large laser flash lamp tubes, the alternative was spending about 250 bucks for an EG&G trigger coil.
Amazon / product claims= clackbait. One thing, this channel never is.
I always wanted to know how effective these are and a fly zapper works on a dog I tried it one time and it is bad enough that the dog runs every time she sees the zapper.
These are mostly toys and might scare off some less knowledgeable people with bad intentions, but most people know they do nothing, especially in a fight situation, when adrenaline would make those feel like a bee sting, barely.
If the Vipertek claim isn't official, then its sure the best one. Otherwise choose the Sabre products
LOL a lot of those silly zappers sounded like someone cutting the cheese! Whenever i see them for sale i remark out loud oh look honey they sell marital aids here!.. smFh
Come for the stunning results, stay for the puns.
but does it have a..... FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER ?!?!?!?
I've had the second to last one for years and it still does what it's supposed to flashlight alone is worth the 10 bucks & the taxer can be fun too 😵💫
I picked up one of the flashlight/stun guns rated for 1 million volts and charged it up. This one has a bunch of sharp spikes that the arc jumps across and it definitely looks and sounds spooky. But being the skeptic that I am, I had to test it on myself.
Being an electrician, I’ve been zapped a few times by 120 volts @ 15 amps and have found that it hurts just enough to piss me off.
Not something I enjoy but definitely not what I’d consider an effective weapon. Still, I didn’t know what to expect from a million volts at what could only be milliamps of electricity, so I zapped the back of my hand with it. It hurt like hell for just a second.
I didn’t fall down and pee myself and wake up on the floor two hours later, so I don’t think this is much of a useful weapon. But I carry it anyway, more for the flashlight to blind an attacker and the spikes to puncture him with. The shock is only good if I can hold it on the attacker for more than a split second and no attacker would allow that. They’d jump away mad as hell and attack again.
But the sound of the arc is definitely a deterrent to anyone who hasn’t actually been zapped by one. It doesn’t scare me anymore so don’t assume a professional mugger hasn’t zapped himself just to see if they’re worth fearing or not. That’ll definitely backfire on you if they see your stun gun and start laughing.
Do it on your bare skin and not through clothing ...
they hurt a lot more because of the salt and water in your body skin is a better electrical conductor than clothing or don't you want us to see you crying like a little girl
The whole point of a “stun gun” is to drive it into the attacker, they usually be on top or wrapped around you hence why we in the LE call it “drive stun” it’s to be used when your taser is non deployable.
When I was a teenager one of these kept me from getting jumped, after one zap per person they reconsidered what they were doing and let me run away