When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
I saw something saying about how Ed and Molly didnt die on impact in the car accident but were just knocked out, but Felix was too drunk to notice and panicked, therefore burying them alive
As someone who has gone through AA and has listened to many an horrific “absolute lowest point” story, I can completely see how that could have been how it turned out. I mean, I never came across anyone who did something THIS horrific, but…
that is a very good theory, and would kinda make sense since in canon Edd and molly Died but Felix didnt. and also that whole " you killed them! you crashed the car! " thing would probably be felix's mind making him THINK that they did die on impact.
Poor matt has been through so many muddled timelines aside from fnaf. He redid the LOZ timeline against Nintendo's canon, I think he did a mario timeline despite Nintendo stating it had no canon, petscop timelimes and that crow series too. A cohesive, stated timeline must seem like a godsend to the poor man
To be fair, medication can make you a bit,,, numb, I guess is the best word for it. For instance, the medication I take makes me react similarly to horror, lol. Very much "huh okay that's weird."
I feel like the Walten Files accomplishes what FnaF: Sister Location didn't-a more human oriented story involving family, with animatronics helping as set pieces to tell it.
Walten files works because from the get go it was established to be about Family, about these 2 owners of the place, and had a decent amount of character who just existed without being connected to the family. Fnaf only started adding the family elements 3 games into the series, and then went through and started retconning almost every small element to be contrived into the family dynamic, making the entire thing a mess and, like i said feel massively contrived and trite.
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
I think that the whole “the rabbit is starving” is a references to the fact that Susan was still alive in the suit. She probably died of starvation instead of immediately dying
@@lustally Didnt bon say "shadow man feeds me when lights go off." so what if shadow man was actually feeding them humans or drugs and they got addicted and is hungry for more of it?
@@Enderking-pt4ux well not flesh by itself. Maybe shadowman drugged them to be addicted to it to make animatronic human eating weapons trying to get more of the drugs?
A theory I love is that Sophie lured Rosemary in the backstage since in the second tape, Sha says “Sophie, where am I” when introducing one of the rooms and that the flash of Sophie in the uniform with Bon in the back is what Rosemary saw in the back
I can appreciate it that someone took probably hundreds of hours of their life to make an ARG that is essentially the most esoteric anti drunk driving PSA the internet has ever seen.
It's completely possible that Jack, knowing he can't get out of Bon is actively searching for & stuffing his family members in an effort to put the broken family back together
@@TheJCHarkins2 The term of being 'beautiful' as being a robot is because the robots are beautiful. That's what I've learned. however your logic could also be applied, since Jack would likely see his family members as beautiful. He does seem to care about his family after all.
fun fact all the drawing Martin is doing on his phone! he said on his twt that he doesn’t want to get a expensive tablet because he feels like it’ll keep the old type of fragmented style the walten files is perfect for
Since there's been another upload from Martin, I'm gonna try answer some questions for anyone who wants to know. 1) What happened to Jack? Jack found out what Felix had done and in a drunken panic, Felix killed Jack. He put Jack inside of Bon and left it at that. 2) What happened to Rosemary? Rosemary became depressed after her children's and her husband's deaths. Felix was the only person she felt she could talk to after Linda moved away, and so when she finally pieced it all together, she went to find Jack. Jack, inside of Bon, lured her backstage, dismembered her and stuffed her inside of Sha. 3) What happened to Felix? As far as I know, nothing. He isn't confirmed to be dead and is listed as an acting member of the Bon's Burgers franchise. 4) What's the deal with Susan? Susan says she's alive, because at one point she was. When she was stuffed into Banny, she was still alive. The reason that she say's she starving, and the reason for the rabbit is starving section is that she starved to death inside of the suit. I'm sorry if I got anything wrong, please feel free to correct me. I'll happily answer any questions.
1 ) what happened to jack? Jack finds out that what Felix had done and in a drunken panic Felix killed Jack. He put J ack inside of Bon and left it at that. 2 what happened to rosemary ? Rosemary Kim depressed after her children and her husband's death. Felix was the only person she felt she could take to after Laura moved away, finally pieced it all together she wants to find Jack, 3( what happened to Felix ? Belfor of knowing nothing he isn't confirmed to be dead enlisting listing the number of bunz burgers franchise bonus burgers 🍔 there was Susan Susan still alive because I want one point she was. When she was stuffed to the bunny, but she was still alive. The reason that she starving, reason for the Revit starving rabbit section is that she deserving to death starving to death inside of the suit.
I legit was playing a Roblox role-play game about the waltens (I was roleplaying as Jack, not really that important though), and the owner of the server we were in had the idea of Felix killing Jack, such a coincidence man
Fun fact: Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza is canon to the Walton universe and yes that includes all the animatronics we know and love. The only difference is that in this universe nothing went wrong there, no Purple Guy, no bite of 87, nothing. So it appears that regardless of which animatronic themed restaurant becomes a melting pot of vengeful spirits one of them always will. It’s an absolute point in time if you will.
If in every universe there is a animatronic themed killer restaurant there must be one in our reality as well right?? Just kidding *looks suspiciously at Chuck E Cheese*
I've seen my parents raise 4 children including myself, and I've seen how difficult it is. And I'm very thankful that Matpat still finds time for TH-cam even though he's raising a kid. You're doing great Matpat and we're proud of you.
Isn’t it funny how Matpat has such a soothing and easy to listen to voice even when he’s talking about creepy murderous animatronics. That’s a gift Matpat, that’s a gift.
maybe “feeding” the animatronics at night is as literal as we think, just not the type of food we’d expect. you said yourself at 6:20 that chris sent bryan to the facility, and his inevitable death - perhaps this was always the plan? maybe he, or his remains, was eaten. playing into this theory could also explain susans story, following the pre established theory that she is the bunny that is said to be starving in the first episode (which explains how she was still “alive” in the suit, she somehow survived the attack but eventually starved to death despite being fed by the shadow man) this would mean that the food she is being offered is human remains, maybe she denied this and given no other options starved to death.
Definitely something to consider! I think however, it’s important to note that currently Bryan is the only death that we know of that isn’t stuffed into an animatronic. Even with Ashley at the same facility, she’s killed and then stuffed into Billy the clown. So unless there’s more death be hind the scenes that we don’t know about yet (very possible!) I think it might be a different motivation behind the killing.
when Felix crashed the car, he never really even checked to see if Ed and Molly were okay. Now yes, they could have been dead on spot from the crash, and yes they could have been still alive. Felix was intoxicated but I still like to think that he would've checked to see if they were breathing first. But- if Ed and Molly were in fact still breathing and still alive after the crash, then Felix just buried them alive.
Adding onto what Mat said at the end, I remember when I was little I hated anything horror! I grew up with a very religious family and because of that I was taught that horror is only about the evil, the monsters, and the cruel. Now that I'm older, I know better. Horror is about humanity, about resilience, about love in all it's forms, and what humanity does when faced with a hopeless situation. A quote from one of my favorite TH-cam channels Cinema Therapy is when they say, "Ironically, it's often horror that has the best love stories." It makes us ask the question, "How far would you go for your loved ones? How far would you go for yourself?"
Being in a religious family...true horror games are seen as bad...im not allowed to play or talk of it...I just watch in secret kind of...there good games and sometimes good horror series on youtube..I can't be stopped since they don't know what I even watch...
In the trailer a voice can be heard saying “Edd and molly? They’re gone?” and it didn’t sound like jack, so I think Felix told Charles about the crash and got killed by Felix in the process of trying to report the death.
I love how a clearly laid out timeline of events is enough to bring MatPat to tears. However, considering the unholy mess the FNAF timeline, it is understandable how that would be the case.
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
@@bona903 Ok, now I'm wondering if that one goes beyond just Sophie, like stuffed people (or souls?) in said animatronics gradually forgetting who they are/losing their humanity (since dementia is a progressive disease)?
I’ve been saying that edd and molly posses Bon because they want their family back together. I don’t think it was out of rage that they were killing people, instead, since they are kids and don’t understand death properly, they think that since they are dead, the only way to reunite with their family is if they die too. That’s why they want Sophie and this also would explains the glitches. It’s two souls in one body. I think that it makes WAYYYYY more sense than Jack killing his family when it’s been confirmed that he was a loving husband and father by Martin. The idea of two kids just wanting their family back together would be so tragic
They are quite literally middle school children, I think they understand how death works. Regardless, jack was the first to “disappear”, and Susan is killed by Bon and stuffed into banny. Therefore it makes more sense for Jack to be Bon, in my opinion
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
@@whoshotjj Molly was 8 and Edd was 11/12. When I was 8-12 I still didn’t understand death much and thought it was just people leaving. Maturing is different for every kid. And I once again come back to the point that Martin Walls has stated that Jack was a loving husband and father. It wouldn’t make sense if he was bon unless he had no control and he had to watch it all happen and couldn’t do anything
11:11 Just as a reminder, you can actually see their (red kids') graves in Sha's minigame once Bon (player character) starts their search for Sha ... and I have no doubt that the forest in the minigame is the same forest where not only Brian died, but Felix crashed his car as well, as hinted by the broken fence and (later) flower beds. Also, from what I was told, Rosemary's screaming heard at the end of Sha's minigame (together with the twitching animatronic of her (Sha)) is the actual screaming of an adult woman referenced by Ashley in Relocate Project that got the restaurant condemned. Not to mention that the last time we see Bunnyfarm's title card (which then continues into the Magical Well of Memories), Bon has turned into Rocket as well.
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
I think this theory is good overall but there are some things that just don’t check out. Firstly, I think that the message after susans death isn’t implying that she is still alive but instead ties into “the bunny is starving” from a previous episode meaning she survived initially but starved to death soon after. Furthermore I think its pretty undebatable that edd and molly are represented by rocket and the scene where bon is seen going insane with edd and molly around him is symbolic of jack’s grief for them,
Also it’s confirmed by Martin himself that it’s “ shadow man sees me” not “shadow man feeds me” also Charles is a worker from bsi not the owner which was confirmed by one of the Voice actors for the series, in the twf [Redacted
I can agree there are some stuff that he does say that I personally don’t think adds up about the whole shadow man thing and Chris personally I think Chris is like a nickname for Charles or Charles just might be a random back up employee and we basically already know the story but with matpats explaining it just makes me more and more confused and I don’t think the children are possessing bon either it’s jack or Felix or maybe Felix might’ve put a programming on bon and the other animatronics to finish any loose ends and possibly after Sophie gaining her memory that’s why Felix might’ve put not only Sophie on medication but also programming the animatronics as backup so when she finds out the animatronics most likely bon will come after her and silence her good thus explains why you see bon in the episode 4 trailer standing what I think a hotel lobby because on the side you see what I think those old key holders they use to have back then for hotels and we know Sophie and her girlfriend Jenny are working at in the hotel and in the first episode in that jump scare of Bon standing behind Sophie is some foreshadowing because I don’t think Sophie in that clothing is a caretaker of sorts I honestly think that’s her In her hotel uniform but that’s what I think is what’s going on and with Mattpat explanation just only confuses me
My only nitpick in this theory is the part about the animatronics being fed and Susan’s stomach feeling weird, which doesn’t seem correct considering the whole, “the rabbit is starving, the rabbit must get the owners attention” bit. It seems to imply that Susan was still alive in the suit and instead of dying from her wounds she died of starvation or something like that
I still strongly disagree with the theory that Susan was stuffed in the suit and starved inside it. What I think happened was Bon attacked and paralyzed her like he did with Brian. We see the image of Susan, outside the suit, with her saying that she’s still alive but can’t move. I doubt she was put into the suit immediately. I think she was stuck in that room, over the weekend, with nobody there to help her. She then died of starvation or dehydration, after which Bon stuffed her in the suit. The stuff about her stomach feeling weird is probably just her hunger. Also Martin himself confirmed that the voice at the end of episode 2 said “shadow man SEES me, when lights go off” so the whole thing about feeding is false.
Its actually "Shadow man SEES me when lights go out" not feeds. Martin himself confirmed it. Also the series isn't over yet, and "Lucky You" explicitly said "don't try to solve this puzzle with the peices you have now."
@@nolanhartsoe agree! I had to go check Martin’s channel because when I saw Mat uploaded this I thought wait part 4 is out already and I missed it?! thinking this was about new content. I was mildly disappointed when I realized this was about the previous parts lol
Something really freaky about the car crash is how when the kids are buried you can hear muffled sounds of breathing, implying that the kids were badly injured but not dead. My theory: Felix buried the two kids in a drunken panic, unknowingly leaving them to suffocate.
Something really freaky about the car crash when the kids are being concern a muscle cell of breathing , implying that the kids were in her bedroom but not dead. My theory feel experience the two kids drucken panic , unknowing leaving them to suffocate
I love the addition of "its a burning memory" from the Caretaker's "Everywhere at the End of Time" where it depicts the slow-burn spiral down into dementia, really sad music, but also depicts "memory loss" *hint-hint*
Its actually just the al bowly version of heartaches and not the caretaker's version but its definitely a reference to EATEOT another reference is that at one point played the an empty bliss beyond this world track libets delay
Well , yes but actually no 😭 Its heartaches by Al Bowly , which caretaker uses the instrumental version overlaying crackles into it rather than using the lyric version - so caretaker was inspired , as well as walten files , by al bowly's song heartaches
First of all I cannot tell you how much I fangirled over the fact that Mat made models for Jack and Felix, I was so overly joyed about the fact that he got back into this. This makes me so happy, thank you Mat!!!
I believe felix is actually the shadow man based on the lost album that was uploaded. In one of the songs, the shadow man is talked on alot, and the line "Watches from the dark, he knows he wrecked that car, and swears he has no part." definitely describes the events that happened with Felix and the kids.
Yeah it makes sense. TBH I have a theory about this theory. My theory is that I think this file theory was finished a long time ago but they didn’t publish it. So, the video ignores stuff like the album and anything past that (I know it is only the teaser). One Piece of evidence is that he had a series like around IdK maybe 5 months ago. So when this came out it was kinda unexpected.
Exactly! The game references Matpat has been slapping into his film theories lately are solid! You can even see the DDLC classroom in the background at (3:00).
Okay, this "feeding" idea is getting out of hand. There was a chance when it was unclear who the Shadow Man is, but the The Showstoppers II Lost Album (that itself is worth a deep dive) confirmed that Felix is the Shadow Man and unless he's no longer human, what would he gain from "feeding" the robots? There isn't anything in any of the videos that remotely connects the idea that dead people trapped inside robots need to be sustained in such a way beyond maybe that one line. The fact that Banny is the only one that mentions starvation while none of the others do have makes the insistence that this is the correct interpretation even more baffling. Boozoo is focused on not remembering his face while Shaw wants constant affirmation that she's beautiful despite having been mangled up. These are callbacks to how they died and are short-hand for the story to reference. Banny is the only one that has the potential for "feeding" to work because Susan starved to death. More likely the line is "Shadow Man sees me when lights go off" because (and this is my theory) Felix likely knows what happened and covered it up like he did with the Red Children. The "sees me" part could be another way of saying Felix only acknowledges their deaths when no one else is around. When the lights are off. Mishearing that line combined with the insistence to tie this world to FNAF rules is really hurting what could be a solid theory. Wondering why Jack would be murdering his family if he was Bon assumes that the personalities of the robots are one to one with the dead trapped inside and that can be strongly argued for FNAF. Not so for the Walten Files. If that was the case, why would they need such round-about methods to communicate? The FNAF robots had zero issues in that department. More likely the robots in the Walten Files are limited in their abilities and the mechanical aspect is stronger. When Bon found Rosemary, his eyes were in the "Looking For Friends (customers)" mode (when that mode was shown off in episode 2 where Susan was first seen) before she was killed. Also in episode 2, Shaw warned the viewers to not touch or shine lights at the robots. Both Brian and Ashley did that moments before they were attacked and Susan (I assume) touched Bon before she died. I could go on about other things that are off (Sophie was mentioned earlier in episode 1 when Rocket named her specifically , also her guard uniform was red which doesn't line up with the caretaker purple plus there isn't enough evidence that suggests Sophie really was a caretaker), but these are the biggest issues. It's a shame cus' you are right with Chris being sus and could be onto something with Charles. EDIT: Re-listened to The Showstoppers II Lost Album and the lyric "Shadow Man watches from the dark" came up. This is further proof that the line was never "feeds". but instead "sees". Seriously, give this album a listen. It's canon and could have spare you all a lot of hours.
Also Jack might not have seen it as murder but as making her "beautiful" or he could have just found her already dead/dying body and made it "beautiful"
The uniform we see Sophie wear in episode 1 is likely her hotel uniform. She’s only in her early twenties, and I assume you need to be at least 18 to work at the facility. She said the pills are making her forget only her childhood years, so it would be weird if she forgot she worked at BSI just a few years ago.
To tack on: maybe I’ve missed this and it’s already been confirmed but I don’t think that image of Sophie in a uniform and Bon behind her is not a flashback/memory but more a set up for the future. Like at some point Sophie will go back and will encounter Bon especially since there’s like what 9 more episodes. That just seems more likely than her working in k-9 as a 12-14 year old.
im gonna be honest, walten files is the scariest imagery i have ever seen. I am almost always uncomfortable and scared watching it. 10/10 i love being scared
I have a small theory, I believe the shadow man was also a part of the cause of Felix’s car crash, and I believe this because in “The showstoppers 2 lost 1983 album” the song “slowly” contains this lyric “ shadow man, watches from the dark, he knows he wrecked the car, but swears he had no part,” it’s just a small theory that just came into my head.
It isn't that the lore is too hidden, it's that the series has retconned itself so much that the clues don't fit together anymore. If you want your series to have deep and complex lore, or lore that is constantly being rewritten, then it needs to be spelled out very clearly. For example, think Lord of the Rings, Marvel, or even Thomas the Tank Engine. If you want your series to have hidden lore, then the story needs to be short and simple, with few plot twists or recons. Like the Walten Fills, Don't Hug Me, I'm Scared, or any one-off theory MatPat does. FNaF's problem is that it has a complex story AND hidden lore.
Jack is probably Bon as he would know who Sophie looks like and was probably forced by felix to stuff his wife into the Sha suit as we see Bon crying while stuffing rosemary into the suit.
Just a thought: It is possible that Bon splitting into Edd and Molly's spirits be a symbolic way of saying that Jack Walten, the person I believe wholeheartedly to be inside of Bon, is fueled by the death of his children. He is fueled by the rekindling flame of what could be a being a whole family again, just in another body. I believe this because the whole "family back together" theory really ties well with the whole story in general. He lures his family members and other people crucial to Bon's Burger's success (besides Felix because he is the one that killed his kids after all) and started his own family. Here is why I believe this to be true: First of all, at the point of 14:56, when he is glitching out when he is close to Edd and Molly, could that be Jack haunted by the death of his kids and remembrance to why he is doing this in the first place, to have a whole family again? Second of all, when Sophie is being told "a story about broken people; beautiful people", she is called "my little bunny". This could be a reference to the franchise itself, but since we know that she is a Walten, this could be Jack Walten calling her by a nickname he has given her before the contents of the story even took place, letting her know who he is. If Bon was Edd and Molly, it would not make sense for them to call her their little bunny (Older siblings are not usually called nicknames like that by younger siblings). Finally, and adding on to the second piece of evidence, when Rosemary is lured backstage by Bon, the voice Bon uses is very similar to the voice of the disembodied figure that called Sophie their "little bunny". If my theory is correct about Jack Walten being the one talking to Sophie at that moment, it will also confirm that Jack is Bon and he is the one luring them to him in the disguise of Bon to fix their broken family once and for all. As one man has said before me, ironically on a very similar topic, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. P.S: Rewatching this got me thinking, in both the canon and non-canon animations on Martin Wall’s channel, Bon is not fond of Banny. This could be because most people associate banny to be Bon’s “partner”. This then correlates with why Jack possibly attacked Susan first, whether he didn’t like her or didn’t like something she did has no answers yet. She could have helped Felix with the Edd and Molly situation, or helped him when Jack left, which was before her death and before tape #3. This is just me thinking abstract however, so take it with a grain of salt.
@@strangegurl4411 yes, but I do not believe that the animatronic is fueled by grief itself, if that is what you are hinting towards. It just makes more sense from the evidence given that Jack is inside Bon
I had this theory that Edd and Molly were behind "everything" since that part in Bunnyfarm, that and the text; "Is sad that we can't actually remember you, but soon we will be together forever and ever" That's unsettling for little kids. And that explains too the "beautiful" thing: they became Rocket. Molly's favorite toy, something she loved and considered "beautiful" So, if this is the case, why in Relocate project we have that tape with the "hit" list? Simple: it wasn't a hit list in the first place. It was a tape to reprogram Bon. Something happened before the opening of the restaurant, Bon probably killed someone and Felix watched it. How he was going to say that Bon was killing people? He was so scared about it, being caught by something he actually didn't do. With this fact in mind, he tried to reprogram it to not hurt the people on the list, the people that were more close to Bon. Something that we haven't thought about is why the reprogramming stuff in the first place. Probably was Felix himself the one that broke Bon's eye and arm since the beginning: he knew what he... THEY do. So why keep it and not throw it away? maybe our friend Chris, who for a side character is everywhere, threatened Felix not to. He knows they are possessed and he is obsessed by this "miracle". Maybe he's insane and the voice we hear in the teaser "So Edd and Molly are..." Belongs to him. Let's remember that he played Bunnyfarm, and also was the one that send Brian Stells as a facility caretaker. Let's remember that BSI disappears at some point, they know what's going on. The sad thing about all of this is that maybe Felix isn't the monster we thought in the first place he was. Maybe, the line "Safety in pills, Sophie" comes from him trying to protect her.
It’s even more scary because first episode it says “safety in pills” making her try to forget, while other ones try to make her remember what happened. I think the reason she needs to remember is because the robots may be hunting her down outside of the facility. Maybe even Sophie’s girlfriend will also learn about these events and maybe even get killed herself. For now that’s just a theory.
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
The non-canon stories definitely exist for a reason. While the actual events aren't part of the main story, there are probably hints im there. The mysterious house implies that Jack is a lot more sinister than the first 3 episodes implied. I feel like game theory hit the nail on the head with buzu's ghosts
Felix should be "Shadow Man" bc of the recent Lost Album upload that features the lyrics "shadow man watches from the dark. he knows he wrecked that car, and swears he had no part" (being repeated 3x) in the 2nd to the last song "Slowly". The words "shadow man" and "wrecked that car" being in the same song seem to me that it's pushing the statement that Felix 1) wrecked the car (as in crashed the car that led to Edd and Molly's deaths) and 2) He contributed to the disappearance of **maybe** Jack Walten and most likely Rosemary's (in the "missing husband" bit where Bon stuffs her body into Sha and the Shadow Man is watching). I recommend that you take a listen to the Showstoppers Lost Album, it's got super nice music as well as lore drops that go beyond just the lyrics (maybe the captions?)
I think that Felix is probably in Bon. Murdering the loose ends who would be looking for Jack, Edd, and Molly. I think that the spirits of Edd and Molly were around Bon because they were haunting Felix. I think the whole "they are beautiful now" is something a psychopathic Felix would be telling himself to cope/justify the murders. Also, the Billy recording/tape stating the 5 names was probably Felix either recording the names of his victims or keeping track of the loose ends (it was marked discard, which would track with it being incriminating for Felix). Felix being in Bon would also explain his absence because we don't ever get an answer to his fate. This is just my interpretation, and it may already be out there.
After learning the truth, Jack learned to never say “you’re a life saver” ever again as he learned the Felix, wasn’t a life saver. Now that is character development.
@@ConfusdTarz At the risk of getting r/whooshed, I can't tell if you correcting him incorrectly was a joke, or if you corrected him and didn't realize that you spelt it wrong...
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
Also it was very quickly glossed over by Matt but the final jumpscares of bon grabbing his head and the faces appearing around him with the screaming probably indicate how jack found out about his kids deaths for sure. possibly having suspicions before getting put in bon and having them confirmed afterwards bringing him to reanimation. or something like that.
I always thought that Felix was the one luring Jack’s wife away since she was trying to find out what was happening with her husband. And like it’s him in the suit trying to cover his tracks
@@Copparid492 I think the thought pattern here, is that instead of Jack luring Jack's wife into the back, Felix is spring locked (like in FNaF with William Afton and the golden suits) in the suit and he killed Rosemary while in the suit. So, Felix is not stuck in the suit and he isn't locked into the Bon suit, he can leave whenever. I hope this makes sense, I am not super good at wording my thoughts
My theory is that Bon is actually Felix, i think it makes sense for an animatronic that is killing people to "make them beautiful/perfect" to be possesed by a "imperfect" man who made a lot of mistakes. And that makes me think that Jack is actually the bear (forgot his name sorry) who helps Sophie remember her past, since Jack is shown to be a kind and caring father, I believe it makes more sense for him to not be the killer. Edit: Now i realized this is mostly wrong, but i still think the part about Jack holds up, also thanks to everyone who corrected me about Felix still being alive
That's so interesting! It would also connect to how Bon changes into Ed and Molly too, since Felix feels so guilty about their deaths. His spirit is connected to theirs, if that makes sense?
So when do we tell MatPat about the Showstoppers music albums for the Waltenfiles and how they also have lore dumps that explain some of what he is asking in their lyrics?
While the theory about Chris could still be a possibility, I recommend listening to the Showstoppers lost album 2. It’s on the Walten Files TH-cam channel. More specifically listen to the song titled: “ Slowly” In that song there are lyrics that say; “Shadow man( ...) he knows he wrecked that car (....) swears he had no part” Those lyrics point heavily towards shadow man being Felix and not Chris.
I don’t know Felix is like in bad guilt of killing jack two child so I don’t think he won’t do any killing cause I think that going make him feel most guilt
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
This new era of TH-cam horror shows are amazing. Seriously, Walten files, Battington, the explosion of FNAF VHS. I honestly cannot see how you can do better but I feel people will continue to do just that.
Hopefully Matt doesn't make us wait another few months for the next episode, there's defiantly still more to talk about, like the website dedicated to Jack's disappearance
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
Darn I just had the greatest reply to this… guess I just forgot.
@@plasticbag67 hello
@@plasticbag67 Yeah that happens to me too
Looking back, your right. That song always gives me chills.
@@plasticbag67 -Is that an intentional pun-
I saw something saying about how Ed and Molly didnt die on impact in the car accident but were just knocked out, but Felix was too drunk to notice and panicked, therefore burying them alive
yikes that's even more fucked up than it was implied to be
Iirc Martin Walls has confirmed this.
@@sjj1879 Confirmed that it's fake apparently
As someone who has gone through AA and has listened to many an horrific “absolute lowest point” story, I can completely see how that could have been how it turned out. I mean, I never came across anyone who did something THIS horrific, but…
that is a very good theory, and would kinda make sense since in canon Edd and molly Died but Felix didnt.
and also that whole " you killed them! you crashed the car! " thing would probably be felix's mind making him THINK that they did die on impact.
Love how matt is overjoyed on how they show the timeline. *Fnaf Must’ve Gave His Mind Trauma On Tryna Solve The Times*
Poor matt has been through so many muddled timelines aside from fnaf. He redid the LOZ timeline against Nintendo's canon, I think he did a mario timeline despite Nintendo stating it had no canon, petscop timelimes and that crow series too. A cohesive, stated timeline must seem like a godsend to the poor man
Oh that's true
Trauma or *ability?*
Do you wanna know what a surfer cuts down a tree with reply if you want
*pog*
Sophie: legit sees rotting corpses in haunted old video games
Also Sophie: *uh that was weird*
To be fair, medication can make you a bit,,, numb, I guess is the best word for it. For instance, the medication I take makes me react similarly to horror, lol. Very much "huh okay that's weird."
anyway back to my 100% lets play
Yes it is werid
Also, also Sophie : *yep, this is why I eat these pills*
True
There's something so funny about how this series having a proper timeline is one of the most exciting things
Matpat can agree 💯
How no replies???
I feel like the Walten Files accomplishes what FnaF: Sister Location didn't-a more human oriented story involving family, with animatronics helping as set pieces to tell it.
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Walten files works because from the get go it was established to be about Family, about these 2 owners of the place, and had a decent amount of character who just existed without being connected to the family. Fnaf only started adding the family elements 3 games into the series, and then went through and started retconning almost every small element to be contrived into the family dynamic, making the entire thing a mess and, like i said feel massively contrived and trite.
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
@@bona903 is it tho? i dont remember it from anything
I think that the whole “the rabbit is starving” is a references to the fact that Susan was still alive in the suit. She probably died of starvation instead of immediately dying
yeah exactly. especially when she said her stomach feels weird- meaning she most likely died from dehydration or starvation.
@@lustally Didnt bon say "shadow man feeds me when lights go off." so what if shadow man was actually feeding them humans or drugs and they got addicted and is hungry for more of it?
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Maybe it's just that Susan had to bare a lot of hours (the entire day) without eating anything until shadow man appeared at night.
@@chillyswiss7882 addicted to flesh?
@@Enderking-pt4ux well not flesh by itself. Maybe shadowman drugged them to be addicted to it to make animatronic human eating weapons trying to get more of the drugs?
A theory I love is that Sophie lured Rosemary in the backstage since in the second tape, Sha says “Sophie, where am I” when introducing one of the rooms and that the flash of Sophie in the uniform with Bon in the back is what Rosemary saw in the back
Underrated
but why would Sophie refer to her mom with her first name? I know that it happens but it's uncommon enough that it stands out in fiction
I can appreciate it that someone took probably hundreds of hours of their life to make an ARG that is essentially the most esoteric anti drunk driving PSA the internet has ever seen.
When I saw this comment, I was about to say-
@@FormerWarAnimator You again!
Huh, so it is YOU-
Hatty?
@@Vivahngoeson Ye-
Remember, walten did say he did drew most of the art through his phone, which gives me props to him.
That’s friggin cool
Wow, that's some neat talent and dedication!
..walten..?
I never drew with anything but with my bare fingers on my phone- do people draw with a mouse?
@@user-bd2bo5pw3e Some do, yes. It's also strange to me because I can barely draw a circle with a mouse.
It scares me how easily matpat can segway from murders to google ads.
It's completely possible that Jack, knowing he can't get out of Bon is actively searching for & stuffing his family members in an effort to put the broken family back together
It would explain why 'They're beautiful' because then they'd be together with him and just like him.
@@TheJCHarkins2 The term of being 'beautiful' as being a robot is because the robots are beautiful. That's what I've learned. however your logic could also be applied, since Jack would likely see his family members as beautiful. He does seem to care about his family after all.
To bad mat doesn't read his comments
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fun fact all the drawing Martin is doing on his phone! he said on his twt that he doesn’t want to get a expensive tablet because he feels like it’ll keep the old type of fragmented style the walten files is perfect for
That’s awesome but I imagine that his work takes longer Because of it but it’s worth the wait
lmao I draw on my phone as well
Yeah he said he uses Ibis Paint X. Lmfao I used it years ago
WHAT?!!? THATS LITERALLY INCREDIBLE
I draw on my phone as well. Super underrated medium tbh
"A CLEARLY LAID OUT TIMELINE OF EVENTS?!"
Walten: *I gotcha, buddy*
I DIDN'T EVEN WANNA WATCH THIS
Wait..
THESE ARE REPLIES
What makes this better is the fact that the video's title is "Lucky You"
"I gotchoo, Fam!
Since there's been another upload from Martin, I'm gonna try answer some questions for anyone who wants to know.
1) What happened to Jack?
Jack found out what Felix had done and in a drunken panic, Felix killed Jack. He put Jack inside of Bon and left it at that.
2) What happened to Rosemary?
Rosemary became depressed after her children's and her husband's deaths. Felix was the only person she felt she could talk to after Linda moved away, and so when she finally pieced it all together, she went to find Jack. Jack, inside of Bon, lured her backstage, dismembered her and stuffed her inside of Sha.
3) What happened to Felix?
As far as I know, nothing. He isn't confirmed to be dead and is listed as an acting member of the Bon's Burgers franchise.
4) What's the deal with Susan?
Susan says she's alive, because at one point she was. When she was stuffed into Banny, she was still alive. The reason that she say's she starving, and the reason for the rabbit is starving section is that she starved to death inside of the suit.
I'm sorry if I got anything wrong, please feel free to correct me. I'll happily answer any questions.
1 ) what happened to jack? Jack finds out that what Felix had done and in a drunken panic Felix killed Jack. He put J ack inside of Bon and left it at that. 2 what happened to rosemary ? Rosemary Kim depressed after her children and her husband's death. Felix was the only person she felt she could take to after Laura moved away, finally pieced it all together she wants to find Jack, 3( what happened to Felix ? Belfor of knowing nothing he isn't confirmed to be dead enlisting listing the number of bunz burgers franchise bonus burgers 🍔 there was Susan Susan still alive because I want one point she was. When she was stuffed to the bunny, but she was still alive. The reason that she starving, reason for the Revit starving rabbit section is that she deserving to death starving to death inside of the suit.
For real life
Where did Martin confirm these questions and answers?
@@tayloranderson7547 bot
I legit was playing a Roblox role-play game about the waltens (I was roleplaying as Jack, not really that important though), and the owner of the server we were in had the idea of Felix killing Jack, such a coincidence man
Fun fact:
Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza is canon to the Walton universe and yes that includes all the animatronics we know and love. The only difference is that in this universe nothing went wrong there, no Purple Guy, no bite of 87, nothing.
So it appears that regardless of which animatronic themed restaurant becomes a melting pot of vengeful spirits one of them always will. It’s an absolute point in time if you will.
If in every universe there is a animatronic themed killer restaurant there must be one in our reality as well right?? Just kidding *looks suspiciously at Chuck E Cheese*
@@thenoobprecastinator7611 Chuck E Cheese animatronics: *suspiciously looks back*
why is it canon though? do u have sauce for dat?
@@thenoobprecastinator7611 Charles entertainment cheese
@@morielfilm I'm pretty sure MatPat mentioned it in a previous video and showed the source.
I've seen my parents raise 4 children including myself, and I've seen how difficult it is. And I'm very thankful that Matpat still finds time for TH-cam even though he's raising a kid. You're doing great Matpat and we're proud of you.
I mean this is his job. when a person can find a reason or drive to fuel their ambition, it will be completed
Same
Shoutouts to the guy voicing Felix in that car crash scene, it seemed so realistic.
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Oh my god if I see ONE MORE BOT I SWEAR TO GOD also yea, even though I don’t know what it would actually sound like
why are there so many bots
why is there so many annoying bots
i like how Mat put the DDLC background while he's talking about something tragic...like a cute background trying to match a scary scene XD
Isn’t it funny how Matpat has such a soothing and easy to listen to voice even when he’s talking about creepy murderous animatronics. That’s a gift Matpat, that’s a gift.
Has such a smooth and easy for listening voice even if he talks about creepy murderous animatronics. That's a gift map that's a gift.
@@tayloranderson7547 What
True
He has a lot of experience
@@tayloranderson7547 I had a stroke reading this💀
maybe “feeding” the animatronics at night is as literal as we think, just not the type of food we’d expect. you said yourself at 6:20 that chris sent bryan to the facility, and his inevitable death - perhaps this was always the plan? maybe he, or his remains, was eaten. playing into this theory could also explain susans story, following the pre established theory that she is the bunny that is said to be starving in the first episode (which explains how she was still “alive” in the suit, she somehow survived the attack but eventually starved to death despite being fed by the shadow man) this would mean that the food she is being offered is human remains, maybe she denied this and given no other options starved to death.
Shadow man makes me think of the raid shadow legends sponssor character from internet historian, which is also named shadow man.
You said was eaten...
I think the flesh of humans is what the animatronics consider "food"
Also 666 likes nice
Definitely something to consider! I think however, it’s important to note that currently Bryan is the only death that we know of that isn’t stuffed into an animatronic. Even with Ashley at the same facility, she’s killed and then stuffed into Billy the clown. So unless there’s more death be hind the scenes that we don’t know about yet (very possible!) I think it might be a different motivation behind the killing.
when Felix crashed the car, he never really even checked to see if Ed and Molly were okay. Now yes, they could have been dead on spot from the crash, and yes they could have been still alive. Felix was intoxicated but I still like to think that he would've checked to see if they were breathing first. But- if Ed and Molly were in fact still breathing and still alive after the crash, then Felix just buried them alive.
I’m pretty sure Martin Walls, the creator, confirmed that Felix didn’t actually check for their pulses. Do with that what you will.
@@SpairM Okay, I was pretty sure he had said that. Just didn't know for sure-
@@SpairM *o h*
@Walter McDoggo yeah he was just like "woopty Doo nothing wrong here" and continued his life-.
Actually martin confirmed that the kids died on impact. theres no way they would have been even REMOTELY alive.
Walten files managed to get me attached to Sophie and Jenny though we haven’t seen much of them. Impressive. Now don’t break my heart
Adding onto what Mat said at the end, I remember when I was little I hated anything horror! I grew up with a very religious family and because of that I was taught that horror is only about the evil, the monsters, and the cruel. Now that I'm older, I know better. Horror is about humanity, about resilience, about love in all it's forms, and what humanity does when faced with a hopeless situation. A quote from one of my favorite TH-cam channels Cinema Therapy is when they say, "Ironically, it's often horror that has the best love stories." It makes us ask the question, "How far would you go for your loved ones? How far would you go for yourself?"
Kinda one of the BIG problems being in a religious family
I LOVE cinema therapy
Being in a religious family...true horror games are seen as bad...im not allowed to play or talk of it...I just watch in secret kind of...there good games and sometimes good horror series on youtube..I can't be stopped since they don't know what I even watch...
Very Wise My Friend! Very Wise!!
@Zis co awesome, now go away
In the trailer a voice can be heard saying “Edd and molly? They’re gone?” and it didn’t sound like jack, so I think Felix told Charles about the crash and got killed by Felix in the process of trying to report the death.
@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE lmao yeah
Martin Walls has confirmed Jack is in fact alive, as you can see his silhouette in one of the tapes that show the outside of the establishment.
Is there a twitter or TH-cam link of him confirming this?
@@chamberlainquench2484 There is a tweet yes
It’s been a while since this video dropped, but the “shadow man feeds me” thing still gets me. SEE NOT FEED.
I love how a clearly laid out timeline of events is enough to bring MatPat to tears. However, considering the unholy mess the FNAF timeline, it is understandable how that would be the case.
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
@@bona903 true
@@bona903 Ok, now I'm wondering if that one goes beyond just Sophie, like stuffed people (or souls?) in said animatronics gradually forgetting who they are/losing their humanity (since dementia is a progressive disease)?
I’ve been saying that edd and molly posses Bon because they want their family back together. I don’t think it was out of rage that they were killing people, instead, since they are kids and don’t understand death properly, they think that since they are dead, the only way to reunite with their family is if they die too. That’s why they want Sophie and this also would explains the glitches. It’s two souls in one body. I think that it makes WAYYYYY more sense than Jack killing his family when it’s been confirmed that he was a loving husband and father by Martin. The idea of two kids just wanting their family back together would be so tragic
They are quite literally middle school children, I think they understand how death works. Regardless, jack was the first to “disappear”, and Susan is killed by Bon and stuffed into banny. Therefore it makes more sense for Jack to be Bon, in my opinion
I miss my daughter Rosemary
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
@@whoshotjj Molly was 8 and Edd was 11/12. When I was 8-12 I still didn’t understand death much and thought it was just people leaving. Maturing is different for every kid. And I once again come back to the point that Martin Walls has stated that Jack was a loving husband and father. It wouldn’t make sense if he was bon unless he had no control and he had to watch it all happen and couldn’t do anything
that's why Bin said that they're beautiful now
11:11 Just as a reminder, you can actually see their (red kids') graves in Sha's minigame once Bon (player character) starts their search for Sha ... and I have no doubt that the forest in the minigame is the same forest where not only Brian died, but Felix crashed his car as well, as hinted by the broken fence and (later) flower beds.
Also, from what I was told, Rosemary's screaming heard at the end of Sha's minigame (together with the twitching animatronic of her (Sha)) is the actual screaming of an adult woman referenced by Ashley in Relocate Project that got the restaurant condemned.
Not to mention that the last time we see Bunnyfarm's title card (which then continues into the Magical Well of Memories), Bon has turned into Rocket as well.
The Walten Files is the weirdest drunk driving PSA ive ever had the fortune of watching
Imagine being soooo respected that you have GOOGLE as a sponsor, nothin but props
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
@@bona903 what does that have to do with the comment tho lol
I think this theory is good overall but there are some things that just don’t check out. Firstly, I think that the message after susans death isn’t implying that she is still alive but instead ties into “the bunny is starving” from a previous episode meaning she survived initially but starved to death soon after. Furthermore I think its pretty undebatable that edd and molly are represented by rocket and the scene where bon is seen going insane with edd and molly around him is symbolic of jack’s grief for them,
Bro wth
Also it’s confirmed by Martin himself that it’s “ shadow man sees me” not “shadow man feeds me” also Charles is a worker from bsi not the owner which was confirmed by one of the Voice actors for the series, in the twf [Redacted
It makes more sense even
I can agree there are some stuff that he does say that I personally don’t think adds up about the whole shadow man thing and Chris personally I think Chris is like a nickname for Charles or Charles just might be a random back up employee and we basically already know the story but with matpats explaining it just makes me more and more confused and I don’t think the children are possessing bon either it’s jack or Felix or maybe Felix might’ve put a programming on bon and the other animatronics to finish any loose ends and possibly after Sophie gaining her memory that’s why Felix might’ve put not only Sophie on medication but also programming the animatronics as backup so when she finds out the animatronics most likely bon will come after her and silence her good thus explains why you see bon in the episode 4 trailer standing what I think a hotel lobby because on the side you see what I think those old key holders they use to have back then for hotels and we know Sophie and her girlfriend Jenny are working at in the hotel and in the first episode in that jump scare of Bon standing behind Sophie is some foreshadowing because I don’t think Sophie in that clothing is a caretaker of sorts I honestly think that’s her In her hotel uniform but that’s what I think is what’s going on and with Mattpat explanation just only confuses me
@@Dumb_Plushie ignore it, its a damned bot
i like how MatPat threw some shade at FNAF by "shedding a tear" at the Walten Files' concise timeline of events
You all think he's acting, but he's actually letting out real tears of joy.
true
Martin Walz if you can hear this thank you for ending our suffering by giving us a clear and not confusing timeline. THANK YOU
My only nitpick in this theory is the part about the animatronics being fed and Susan’s stomach feeling weird, which doesn’t seem correct considering the whole, “the rabbit is starving, the rabbit must get the owners attention” bit. It seems to imply that Susan was still alive in the suit and instead of dying from her wounds she died of starvation or something like that
That, and her spine was snapped so that she couldn’t escape.
I still strongly disagree with the theory that Susan was stuffed in the suit and starved inside it. What I think happened was Bon attacked and paralyzed her like he did with Brian. We see the image of Susan, outside the suit, with her saying that she’s still alive but can’t move. I doubt she was put into the suit immediately. I think she was stuck in that room, over the weekend, with nobody there to help her. She then died of starvation or dehydration, after which Bon stuffed her in the suit. The stuff about her stomach feeling weird is probably just her hunger.
Also Martin himself confirmed that the voice at the end of episode 2 said “shadow man SEES me, when lights go off” so the whole thing about feeding is false.
thats actually right- there is a photo of her starved in some tape i forgot
@@Nixxan0108 Walten Files 3
@@lukethelegend9705 that’s actually a really good point, I like that version of the theory
The Walten Files: Proving that something made in MS Paint can be unironically terrifying.
Looooool
Did you forget omega flowey?
@@cyanchaos4490 lol
Apparently (and this has been confirmed on Twitter) martin draws all the characters on his phone
@@deadmoonasmr5359 WHATT THAT DUDE IS TALENTED
Its actually "Shadow man SEES me when lights go out" not feeds. Martin himself confirmed it.
Also the series isn't over yet, and "Lucky You" explicitly said "don't try to solve this puzzle with the peices you have now."
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You see, Matt doesn't know how to read "don't try to solve"
@@nolanhartsoe What better time to release a video about a horror series than during October?
@@nolanhartsoe why the caps man?
@@nolanhartsoe agree! I had to go check Martin’s channel because when I saw Mat uploaded this I thought wait part 4 is out already and I missed it?! thinking this was about new content. I was mildly disappointed when I realized this was about the previous parts lol
I love this, MatPat. It's so interesting to think about the terrifying reality of these animatronics and Jack and Felix's backstory!
Something really freaky about the car crash is how when the kids are buried you can hear muffled sounds of breathing, implying that the kids were badly injured but not dead.
My theory: Felix buried the two kids in a drunken panic, unknowingly leaving them to suffocate.
Thats…………. Fucking messed up-
Don’t worry, you’re not the first to think of that; it’s been confirmed that while Felix didn’t check their pulse, both died immediately upon impact.
@@astrocake584 I really hope they died on impact actually-
Something really freaky about the car crash when the kids are being concern a muscle cell of breathing , implying that the kids were in her bedroom but not dead. My theory feel experience the two kids drucken panic , unknowing leaving them to suffocate
Something really freaky about the car crash is how the kids are buried you can hear the kids were badly injured not dead. Leaving them to suffocate.
I love the addition of "its a burning memory" from the Caretaker's "Everywhere at the End of Time" where it depicts the slow-burn spiral down into dementia, really sad music, but also depicts "memory loss" *hint-hint*
Its actually just the al bowly version of heartaches and not the caretaker's version but its definitely a reference to EATEOT another reference is that at one point played the an empty bliss beyond this world track libets delay
Its heartaches.
It’s heartaches, with reverb and a lower pitch.
The caretaker’s version didn’t have lyrics.
idk it kinda takes me out of it cause people overuse that song so much ever since eatot
Well , yes but actually no 😭 Its heartaches by Al Bowly , which caretaker uses the instrumental version overlaying crackles into it rather than using the lyric version - so caretaker was inspired , as well as walten files , by al bowly's song heartaches
The start of the video gave me so much chills that I legit got scared and skipped it duh 🗿
First of all I cannot tell you how much I fangirled over the fact that Mat made models for Jack and Felix, I was so overly joyed about the fact that he got back into this. This makes me so happy, thank you Mat!!!
@Zis co wtf
@@bagofmoss4710 it’s a bot. Ones like these infest the comment sections of popular youtubers like Matt. Just don’t click the link and you’ll be fine.
Tbh I really thought u were talking about PewDiePie and jacksepticeye
I believe felix is actually the shadow man based on the lost album that was uploaded. In one of the songs, the shadow man is talked on alot, and the line "Watches from the dark, he knows he wrecked that car, and swears he has no part." definitely describes the events that happened with Felix and the kids.
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That's a good theory
Yeah it makes sense. TBH I have a theory about this theory. My theory is that I think this file theory was finished a long time ago but they didn’t publish it. So, the video ignores stuff like the album and anything past that (I know it is only the teaser). One Piece of evidence is that he had a series like around IdK maybe 5 months ago. So when this came out it was kinda unexpected.
*film. Stupid auto correct
Worth our time to hear the details of the crash. Hopefully from Felix's perspective. If he denies responsibility, maybe he's not lying.
I love how the Walten Files are clearly inspired by fnaf, but they’re definitely unique and have a different kind of horror. I love it.
It doesn't even rely on jumpscares
its almost the same
@@cyberlemon9840 yeah it mostly jsut "HEY you there!! heres a psychologically disturbing bunny, hav efun trying to sleep tonight"
In my opinion much more interesting and creepy. Fnaf was never interesting to me
@@omnipotentbanana1576 Understandable, since one is a game and another is a video.
Google must love the Walten Files if they keep sponsoring the episodes of it.
You can clearly see the FNAF influence in the Walten Files. What makes this even better is that MatPat is already the King of FNAF theories.
Wierd seeing you with only 3 likes
Exactly! The game references Matpat has been slapping into his film theories lately are solid! You can even see the DDLC classroom in the background at (3:00).
Hahaha I’m the fifth reply
I basically heard the exact same gibberish as those videos.
nobody knows m0re than us
Okay, this "feeding" idea is getting out of hand. There was a chance when it was unclear who the Shadow Man is, but the The Showstoppers II Lost Album (that itself is worth a deep dive) confirmed that Felix is the Shadow Man and unless he's no longer human, what would he gain from "feeding" the robots? There isn't anything in any of the videos that remotely connects the idea that dead people trapped inside robots need to be sustained in such a way beyond maybe that one line. The fact that Banny is the only one that mentions starvation while none of the others do have makes the insistence that this is the correct interpretation even more baffling. Boozoo is focused on not remembering his face while Shaw wants constant affirmation that she's beautiful despite having been mangled up. These are callbacks to how they died and are short-hand for the story to reference. Banny is the only one that has the potential for "feeding" to work because Susan starved to death. More likely the line is "Shadow Man sees me when lights go off" because (and this is my theory) Felix likely knows what happened and covered it up like he did with the Red Children. The "sees me" part could be another way of saying Felix only acknowledges their deaths when no one else is around. When the lights are off.
Mishearing that line combined with the insistence to tie this world to FNAF rules is really hurting what could be a solid theory. Wondering why Jack would be murdering his family if he was Bon assumes that the personalities of the robots are one to one with the dead trapped inside and that can be strongly argued for FNAF. Not so for the Walten Files. If that was the case, why would they need such round-about methods to communicate? The FNAF robots had zero issues in that department. More likely the robots in the Walten Files are limited in their abilities and the mechanical aspect is stronger. When Bon found Rosemary, his eyes were in the "Looking For Friends (customers)" mode (when that mode was shown off in episode 2 where Susan was first seen) before she was killed. Also in episode 2, Shaw warned the viewers to not touch or shine lights at the robots. Both Brian and Ashley did that moments before they were attacked and Susan (I assume) touched Bon before she died.
I could go on about other things that are off (Sophie was mentioned earlier in episode 1 when Rocket named her specifically , also her guard uniform was red which doesn't line up with the caretaker purple plus there isn't enough evidence that suggests Sophie really was a caretaker), but these are the biggest issues. It's a shame cus' you are right with Chris being sus and could be onto something with Charles.
EDIT: Re-listened to The Showstoppers II Lost Album and the lyric "Shadow Man watches from the dark" came up. This is further proof that the line was never "feeds". but instead "sees". Seriously, give this album a listen. It's canon and could have spare you all a lot of hours.
I do want to note that most of this video is probably recorded long before the Album
Also the Red Uniform could've just looked Red because of lighting
Also Jack might not have seen it as murder but as making her "beautiful" or he could have just found her already dead/dying body and made it "beautiful"
The uniform we see Sophie wear in episode 1 is likely her hotel uniform. She’s only in her early twenties, and I assume you need to be at least 18 to work at the facility. She said the pills are making her forget only her childhood years, so it would be weird if she forgot she worked at BSI just a few years ago.
This is a legitimate theory dude! This is an example that not all the internet is stupid neckbeards
To tack on: maybe I’ve missed this and it’s already been confirmed but I don’t think that image of Sophie in a uniform and Bon behind her is not a flashback/memory but more a set up for the future. Like at some point Sophie will go back and will encounter Bon especially since there’s like what 9 more episodes. That just seems more likely than her working in k-9 as a 12-14 year old.
im gonna be honest, walten files is the scariest imagery i have ever seen. I am almost always uncomfortable and scared watching it. 10/10 i love being scared
Came back from the newest episode and now we kinda know who the shadow man is and who is not possesing bon
Rosemary’s face during the murder screen is single handedly one of the scariest things ever
and susan in the bunny suit
she look like a colgate ad
is she still beautiful to you?
@@javganbonk yes
@@javganbonk absolutely not
Had a high feeling that matpat’s “shadow man feeds me” thing was gonna set him on the wrong path
Yup. He misheard and it’s tanking this theory, very frustrating to watch.
what does it say?
@@bluelilly5607 shadow man sees me
@@lukethelegend9705 It’s honestly only small part of the theory..So it’s not like it ruins much!
You know what even if its wrong I kinda appreciate that that it isn't perfect
"FELIX. PICK UP THE PHONE. *_*NOW*_* "
Felix: hehe car go brrr
No
If these bots were a person i would watch them crying in misery as i cut their limbs one by one
And the kids go boom
He was just too busy playing Tokyo drift
@@rift3068
He watched a little too much Initial D and wanted to try it out.
I have a small theory, I believe the shadow man was also a part of the cause of Felix’s car crash, and I believe this because in “The showstoppers 2 lost 1983 album” the song “slowly” contains this lyric “ shadow man, watches from the dark, he knows he wrecked the car, but swears he had no part,” it’s just a small theory that just came into my head.
Guys, MatPat found the secret. It was Curious George all along
That legendary monke?
Ok
th-cam.com/video/oLvWcADjeSc/w-d-xo.html
Lol no
Furious George. He's not curious anymore. He's pissed.
Martin really took notes to make sure that his story was tight and wouldn't fall into timeline nightmare holes that fnaf suffers from.
Yeah I love fnaf but I feel like the lore is hidden to hard
It isn't that the lore is too hidden, it's that the series has retconned itself so much that the clues don't fit together anymore. If you want your series to have deep and complex lore, or lore that is constantly being rewritten, then it needs to be spelled out very clearly. For example, think Lord of the Rings, Marvel, or even Thomas the Tank Engine. If you want your series to have hidden lore, then the story needs to be short and simple, with few plot twists or recons. Like the Walten Fills, Don't Hug Me, I'm Scared, or any one-off theory MatPat does. FNaF's problem is that it has a complex story AND hidden lore.
Internally took notes to make sure that his story was playing and would fall in a few timeline nightmare holes that Vanessa suffers from
The phaneuf's suffers from
"You crashed the car! You killed them!"
That part broke me...
Same here. And what happened immediately afterwards broke me even further. "they're still there."
Also, sorry about the bots.
Don’t you love it when you make a comment talking about how Felix accidentally murdered his best friend’s kids and then there is 4 LINK SPAMMERS
1:22 I HAD MAX VOLUME ON MY HEADPHONES
“Felix, pick up the phone… NOW.”
*chills*
Felix is Phone Guy confirmed?
literally every time. the sadness and anger behind his voice just gets me every time
You mean me
@Josh the Joshey Boii alright do I have to call the cops on you all
What is up with these bots it’s insane like why are there so many on this video specifically
"Jack would soon find out that Felix would not in fact, be a life saver."
Me: Was he... *_A LIFE ENDER?_*
Was he PURPLE!?!
@@laharlkent lol
I'd like to see a scenario where a person would say life ender
@@laharlkent
you jointed 15 years ago but you only have 13 subscribers
🤨
...he's a lifetaker
Felix saveth, and taketh it away!
The opening line being “a portion of this episode is sponsored by google” REALLY threw me off in so many ways
Imagine someone doesn't knew Google exist before this video...
@@iyadouaras4225 I think they meant Goolegs
0:25
You know when the music box gets louder something is f!&ked up
Jack is probably Bon as he would know who Sophie looks like and was probably forced by felix to stuff his wife into the Sha suit as we see Bon crying while stuffing rosemary into the suit.
But Jack isn't dead?
@@Otterifcation he might not be, because as you saw the people were still alive after being stuffed
@@CaptnCheeze Except Rosemary. Kind of impossible to be alive when you're literally torn to pieces *before* being stuffed.
@@GoldieMethrans thinking bout it yea, maybe her spirit might be there. But Jack is probably alive
@@Otterifcation it’s not confirmed if he’s alive or dead but it makes the most sense that he’s dead and is possessing Bon
Just a thought:
It is possible that Bon splitting into Edd and Molly's spirits be a symbolic way of saying that Jack Walten, the person I believe wholeheartedly to be inside of Bon, is fueled by the death of his children. He is fueled by the rekindling flame of what could be a being a whole family again, just in another body. I believe this because the whole "family back together" theory really ties well with the whole story in general. He lures his family members and other people crucial to Bon's Burger's success (besides Felix because he is the one that killed his kids after all) and started his own family. Here is why I believe this to be true:
First of all, at the point of 14:56, when he is glitching out when he is close to Edd and Molly, could that be Jack haunted by the death of his kids and remembrance to why he is doing this in the first place, to have a whole family again?
Second of all, when Sophie is being told "a story about broken people; beautiful people", she is called "my little bunny". This could be a reference to the franchise itself, but since we know that she is a Walten, this could be Jack Walten calling her by a nickname he has given her before the contents of the story even took place, letting her know who he is. If Bon was Edd and Molly, it would not make sense for them to call her their little bunny (Older siblings are not usually called nicknames like that by younger siblings).
Finally, and adding on to the second piece of evidence, when Rosemary is lured backstage by Bon, the voice Bon uses is very similar to the voice of the disembodied figure that called Sophie their "little bunny". If my theory is correct about Jack Walten being the one talking to Sophie at that moment, it will also confirm that Jack is Bon and he is the one luring them to him in the disguise of Bon to fix their broken family once and for all.
As one man has said before me, ironically on a very similar topic, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
P.S: Rewatching this got me thinking, in both the canon and non-canon animations on Martin Wall’s channel, Bon is not fond of Banny. This could be because most people associate banny to be Bon’s “partner”. This then correlates with why Jack possibly attacked Susan first, whether he didn’t like her or didn’t like something she did has no answers yet. She could have helped Felix with the Edd and Molly situation, or helped him when Jack left, which was before her death and before tape #3. This is just me thinking abstract however, so take it with a grain of salt.
WOAH THIS MAKES A LOTTA SENSE
ty for making it understandable for my stupid self
And another thing: grief can cause insanity. Especially since it was his kids who died, it makes sense. Jack/Bon aren't thinking clearly
@@strangegurl4411 yes, but I do not believe that the animatronic is fueled by grief itself, if that is what you are hinting towards. It just makes more sense from the evidence given that Jack is inside Bon
that makes more sense why he is looking for sophie to complete his family
Everyone: “We want a part 2”.
Matpat: “Your wish is granted”.
But he still won't give Dr Who part 3
@Spense2345 I’m sure one day he will give it to us.
I agree
@@TheMetalchild333 He already did
@@prithviiyer1271 nah, he did Dr who part 2 but not part 3
That intro was exactly what I wanted to hear at midnight when I'm watching this
I find it nice how Sophie’s girlfriend, Jenny showed her the game and stayed with her for a bit when she was starting to play
I think it would've been nice if she stayed the whole time and helped comfort Soapie
@@grattful yeah same
@@arealgamer342 LoL nO hEr CaNoN nAmE iS sOaPiE
WAIT SOPHIE HAD A GIRLFREIND
@@tera6030 yeah it got confirmed Jenny is her girlfriend
This series is one of my favorites, not going to lie.
Same!
Fr for me it might even be better than fanf it’s just so dark descriptive and raw.This and Gemini home entertainment oh so good
@UCRVtUu4QjspEZao17At7f3Q shut up bot
Same
I had this theory that Edd and Molly were behind "everything" since that part in Bunnyfarm, that and the text; "Is sad that we can't actually remember you, but soon we will be together forever and ever"
That's unsettling for little kids. And that explains too the "beautiful" thing: they became Rocket. Molly's favorite toy, something she loved and considered "beautiful"
So, if this is the case, why in Relocate project we have that tape with the "hit" list? Simple: it wasn't a hit list in the first place. It was a tape to reprogram Bon. Something happened before the opening of the restaurant, Bon probably killed someone and Felix watched it.
How he was going to say that Bon was killing people? He was so scared about it, being caught by something he actually didn't do. With this fact in mind, he tried to reprogram it to not hurt the people on the list, the people that were more close to Bon.
Something that we haven't thought about is why the reprogramming stuff in the first place. Probably was Felix himself the one that broke Bon's eye and arm since the beginning: he knew what he... THEY do.
So why keep it and not throw it away? maybe our friend Chris, who for a side character is everywhere, threatened Felix not to. He knows they are possessed and he is obsessed by this "miracle". Maybe he's insane and the voice we hear in the teaser "So Edd and Molly are..." Belongs to him. Let's remember that he played Bunnyfarm, and also was the one that send Brian Stells as a facility caretaker.
Let's remember that BSI disappears at some point, they know what's going on.
The sad thing about all of this is that maybe Felix isn't the monster we thought in the first place he was. Maybe, the line "Safety in pills, Sophie" comes from him trying to protect her.
It’s even more scary because first episode it says “safety in pills” making her try to forget, while other ones try to make her remember what happened. I think the reason she needs to remember is because the robots may be hunting her down outside of the facility. Maybe even Sophie’s girlfriend will also learn about these events and maybe even get killed herself.
For now that’s just a theory.
www.youtubeuis.com/watch?v=RCMXeapwDseY
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
m.th-cam.com/video/mZilw16J38s/w-d-xo.html
The non-canon stories definitely exist for a reason. While the actual events aren't part of the main story, there are probably hints im there. The mysterious house implies that Jack is a lot more sinister than the first 3 episodes implied. I feel like game theory hit the nail on the head with buzu's ghosts
They did an amazing job of making the visuals INFINITELY creepier than FNAF. Truly horrific.
agreed. i’ll take jumpscares over this nightmare fuel that martin makes any day
Heard something about how majority of the art was made on a phone
@@basketballaholic_5818🤯🤯
Felix should be "Shadow Man" bc of the recent Lost Album upload that features the lyrics "shadow man watches from the dark. he knows he wrecked that car, and swears he had no part" (being repeated 3x) in the 2nd to the last song "Slowly". The words "shadow man" and "wrecked that car" being in the same song seem to me that it's pushing the statement that Felix 1) wrecked the car (as in crashed the car that led to Edd and Molly's deaths) and 2) He contributed to the disappearance of **maybe** Jack Walten and most likely Rosemary's (in the "missing husband" bit where Bon stuffs her body into Sha and the Shadow Man is watching).
I recommend that you take a listen to the Showstoppers Lost Album, it's got super nice music as well as lore drops that go beyond just the lyrics (maybe the captions?)
@弥彦yahiko uehara9 😘 .
Mad respect for Matthew’s truly loyal fans who got here early enough to see this
Cool
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I see you everywhere
I am lonely
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I think that Felix is probably in Bon. Murdering the loose ends who would be looking for Jack, Edd, and Molly. I think that the spirits of Edd and Molly were around Bon because they were haunting Felix. I think the whole "they are beautiful now" is something a psychopathic Felix would be telling himself to cope/justify the murders. Also, the Billy recording/tape stating the 5 names was probably Felix either recording the names of his victims or keeping track of the loose ends (it was marked discard, which would track with it being incriminating for Felix). Felix being in Bon would also explain his absence because we don't ever get an answer to his fate. This is just my interpretation, and it may already be out there.
I love Walten Files
same ‼️‼️
What's Walten Files??
@@highlandstorm0137 the vid you watched
I fear Walten Files
@@highlandstorm0137
Bruh
The next sponsorship is gonna be the US government with the way MatPat’s sponsorship game is going.
yeah
What do you mean?
After that it's gonna be the illuminati
Wait until it's actually diet coke
Start small like the floridian government
The walten files is like a breath of fresh air in the FNAF community. I would love to see more of it the future. ❤
Saw a trailer about it and apparently that's just the beginning.
Mat - apologies head phone users
Me - apology not expected
Ok but can we appreciate that every episode is getting way more high-effort than the last
not really
It’s insane how much better each episode gets better than the last
@@Haruki-_ no, not really
@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE shut up lol
*Fun Fact: Felix Always Carry's a Box Recorder When He is Drunk Because he Forgets Stuff When He's Drunk.*
Ufff this is going to totally back fired on him. isnt it?
@@edwintrinidadperazacaraban4650 yep he replayed the clip of what happened with edd and molly
After learning the truth, Jack learned to never say “you’re a life saver” ever again as he learned the Felix, wasn’t a life saver. Now that is character development.
Yoru’e*
@@ConfusdTarz At the risk of getting r/whooshed, I can't tell if you correcting him incorrectly was a joke, or if you corrected him and didn't realize that you spelt it wrong...
@Mot Kaou Shut up
16:16 tell me the bunny on the right doesn't look kinda like Glitchtrap! And TVA looks like Springtrap.
Jack: hey Felix can you pick up my kids for me?
Felix: no
*the end*
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
@@bona903...
Nobody ever asked?
@@bona903 Ooooo, fascinating.
Imagine realizing someone close to you is a alcoholic and not trusting them with your children.
Didn’t he try and say it wasn’t a good day and Jack just talked over him
Matt crying happy tears because of the clear timeline will never stop being hilarious 😂
Ohhhh
th-cam.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/w-d-xo.html
………..
It will never get old, just like Ed and Molly
iH
“Who is this mysterious third party?”
The silhouette: the little lad!
Bro that music box in the beginning is fire! Where did you get it?
Also it was very quickly glossed over by Matt but the final jumpscares of bon grabbing his head and the faces appearing around him with the screaming probably indicate how jack found out about his kids deaths for sure.
possibly having suspicions before getting put in bon and having them confirmed afterwards bringing him to reanimation. or something like that.
Can we appreciate him for making believable theories consistently?
@The TacoCat shut up
@@leonsgaming9247 is it the religious video again
@@Lobo-o_o idk
@@Lobo-o_o nope it's a freaking TRUCK SIM VIDEO
"Ness is Sans" would like a word
I always thought that Felix was the one luring Jack’s wife away since she was trying to find out what was happening with her husband. And like it’s him in the suit trying to cover his tracks
Wait, but how would Felix use Bon if he's/it's an animatronic if I could ask?
@@Copparid492 I think the thought pattern here, is that instead of Jack luring Jack's wife into the back, Felix is spring locked (like in FNaF with William Afton and the golden suits) in the suit and he killed Rosemary while in the suit.
So, Felix is not stuck in the suit and he isn't locked into the Bon suit, he can leave whenever.
I hope this makes sense, I am not super good at wording my thoughts
@@JDM-is-my-name Basically you're suggesting the idea Bon is a springlock suit?
If I remember right, Rosie says “Sophie where are we?” or something along those lines. Not sure why that wasn’t included in that section but yk
@@wulf768 It's not my idea, I was trying to explain the OP comment to the person I was replying to :)
So I normally just listen to episodes and watch sometimes. This was terrifying
My theory is that Bon is actually Felix, i think it makes sense for an animatronic that is killing people to "make them beautiful/perfect" to be possesed by a "imperfect" man who made a lot of mistakes.
And that makes me think that Jack is actually the bear (forgot his name sorry) who helps Sophie remember her past, since Jack is shown to be a kind and caring father, I believe it makes more sense for him to not be the killer.
Edit: Now i realized this is mostly wrong, but i still think the part about Jack holds up, also thanks to everyone who corrected me about Felix still being alive
That's a good theory
Yes!! I think so too, I’m surprised he didn’t mention it but I believe that too
That's so interesting! It would also connect to how Bon changes into Ed and Molly too, since Felix feels so guilty about their deaths. His spirit is connected to theirs, if that makes sense?
I’m bon?
Not bad but if you listen to the show stoppers album on Martian walls channel then it is actually revealed that Felix is indeed the Shadow man.
So when do we tell MatPat about the Showstoppers music albums for the Waltenfiles and how they also have lore dumps that explain some of what he is asking in their lyrics?
It literally confirms that felix is the shadow guy
@@mts9266 realilyyyyyyy?
@@SubZero-hs9xc yeah.
In one of the songs they say the shadow man knows he crashed that car. Idk the exact quote though.
@@mts9266 oooh
In the last One
@@SubZero-hs9xc yup, also in baby blue you can hear ominous breathing
I like that he thanked Google who is known to sell info of users for protecting his security and information
While the theory about Chris could still be a possibility, I recommend listening to the Showstoppers lost album 2. It’s on the Walten Files TH-cam channel. More specifically listen to the song titled: “ Slowly” In that song there are lyrics that say; “Shadow man( ...) he knows he wrecked that car (....) swears he had no part” Those lyrics point heavily towards shadow man being Felix and not Chris.
I don’t know Felix is like in bad guilt of killing jack two child so I don’t think he won’t do any killing cause I think that going make him feel most guilt
This series is sooo eerie and unsettling, incredibly well done. Hats off to Martin Walls. More please! :D
HUMAN MAULED BY UNKNOWN CREATURE 😣th-cam.com/video/PO6raUQZAGI/w-d-xo.html
When the animatronic is “dancing”, a song called Heartaches is played and it is famously used as a sample in an album collection “Everywhere at the end of time”. The collection tackles the topic of dementia and forgetting.
It’s not just eerie it’s downright disturbing, I won’t be sleeping tonight
Another TH-camr did a full series on this
This new era of TH-cam horror shows are amazing. Seriously, Walten files, Battington, the explosion of FNAF VHS. I honestly cannot see how you can do better but I feel people will continue to do just that.
Ohhhh
th-cam.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/w-d-xo.html
…………..
Analog Horror is THE thing.
0:05 The best intro ever
It seems as if we're going to learn more about Charles in the next installment of The Walten Files.
I'm so excited.
Why is there so many bots here ;-;
@@SuperWaffleMuffin ikr they're everywhere
OH GOD THERES MORE
To this day, The Walten Files is some of the most terrifying pieces of horror I have ever seen. Great job on Martin Walls’ part
Everytime I watch something scary, I always remember it will never be worse than the Walten Files😭
The plot isnt that original but the visual and auditory execution is masterful
Hopefully Matt doesn't make us wait another few months for the next episode, there's defiantly still more to talk about, like the website dedicated to Jack's disappearance
Wait! There is a website?! Where?!
Dorodumdum it is on sy09’s channel in the about bit
the WHAT!?
@@cd-ramos defiantly