FARMMAC F070/F660V STIHL MS070/MS660 Next Gen FARMMAC PRO SERIES by NEOTEC
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What a beast of saw Ric. After you tweaked on the first, man the second third, and fourth cut it was like slicing butter. The one with the 42" bar, now that's the timber saw for sure. Very impressive. Neo tech is doing a great job with their clones at a fraction of the cost.
Yes sir Dean! Hope you are well bud! Man that F660 really responded to a little bit of tuning, I can't imagine what it would be like with some mods, muffler and some port timing. Funny thing us the chain hasn't been touched in over a month, luckily I haven't hit anything with it and it shows how strong that pup is!
Now that F070, that is a heck of a saw! It still needs some tuning but it still runs really strong. It is just really big, has lots of big heavy moving parts that really help it tractor along. I know you couldn't see it in the vid but I was grinning the entire time! What a blast! That design has been around since the 60's I believe. Very simply and very very good! We have some huge co-dominant stumps at work that have been needing to go away and I think we have the saw to take care of it now. I cut a footing stump yesterday with it and just couldn't believe how well she ran, really impressed. Neo-tec is changing the game for sure, glad we can be a part of it!
Always great hearing from you bud, be looking for your package in the next week!
They are lookin good! Glad to see the new line out!
Yes sir! I know we spoke with Neo-tec on the direction they wanted to go and they have no other plans than to go up! They truly, what they have told me personally that is, truly what to be on the level of the OEM makers. That's a bold statement but I believe after seeing the effort they have put in the last year, they are going for it and we are glad to be there to help them! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
I run a lot of the clone saws.... they have come so far! Awesome 👌 content
Thanks majorpix we appreciate that.
Bom ter linha antiga da stihl produzida por uma marca💪💪🇧🇷✌
Sim, ele é. marcas como Neo-tec e Farmmac são muito úteis. obrigado por comentar 👍 e se inscrever! Ric
Wow, what a beast of a saw. Thanks so much for sharing.
Yeah these are the latest generation saws which are all on the improvement side of generation. NEO-TEC is working hard to become a top name in the industry for sure. Thanks again for watching! It would help us out by giving us a thumbs up ! Thanks again, Ric!
Keep up the great videos
Awesome video!
Thank you Mr. Popa! It has been a while for us on a vid like this! Hope you are well, we know you are healthy from lifting all those saws and wood!
Ric and Mel
I'm realy likeing the stainless steal one peace bars. would be curouce to see how they were compared to other bars... Any thoughts on that issue?
Hey there! Ya know I have had all the entry level bars from husky and stihl, they are just basic like everything else. I have never owned a high end stihl or husky bar but I have some Oregon high end bars that I really like. Comparing the FT NT and FM bars to Archer and Oregon differences come out. FT stainless bars are decent but cheap and easy to replace for when you bend or pinch it which as you know will happen. The NT stainless solid bar that is milled works much better and overall I would say is on par with the higher end Oregon bars, the laminated stainless bar from NT is almost as good but the thickness I have noticed can vary slightly which is somewhat typical. The Farmmac bars I actually believe are slightly less resilient than the stainless NT bars. Overall I believe the NT bars, though more costly are the best value given they have less deflection than standard bars similar in cost. Bars are consumables and you gotta have a bunch of them, spend as much as you can afford and know one day it will just get hung up and have the chain that put it there hanging with it, that's what I do anyway. Thanks for commenting!
Ric
Please do a video on proper adjustments and thank you please keep it coming
We will add that to our plans and thank you! We have had lots of bad weather the last couple of months on top of sickness, not really the way we planned the new year! We hope we can publish anything soon but will add this to things to come! Thanks for commenting and subscribing! Ric
I've got the Neotec 070. I ported it and disabled the governor. It really cuts now.
Also, you don't really need to use the manual oiler. Mine doesn't even work. It oils like crazy on its own though. The 070/090 has a pulse pump that operates off the crank case pulse just like the fuel pump.
Thanks for the advice bud! We watched your vid on the 070, looks like it works well! Very impressed with this power head for sure! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
Are the parts completely interchangeable with a stihl 070?
Yes, I believe all of the 070 clones will all interchange with the stihl 070. I know the manufacturer does list that they do. Thanks for commenting!
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead ok thank u. I’ve been looking and considering adding some of these saws to my tree business as back ups. I do like that Farmertec has a bigger variety/selection of saws and they even offer a 4-1 deal where the 4 saws are sold at an every cheaper rate. A 660/440/255/111 would give me four saws for around $750. It’s hard to beat that. I have all Stihl saws of those types and thought maybe they would be good while my Stihl saws were down for maintenance.
G’day Ric, what weapons mate! They are awesome. I ended up buying he 872 this morning and thanks for your great advice.
Thanks so much WB! We try to share what we can but especially if it can save you money then that helps too! You can't go wrong with any of there equipment I believe and the 872 is a great saw also! Happy cutting and stay safe while your doing it!
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead thank you so much once again, Ric.
how is farmmac vs farmertec?
Good video. Good information.
Thank you sir!
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I enjoyed the video. I'm split between these two saws. Maybe you can help me out. I thought the 070 had an automatic oiler. I saw you manually doing it. Am I mistaken on the auto oiler or were you overriding it?
Tough decision for sure! For the oiler yes I was overriding the auto oiler. Some folks suggest running it until the chain smokes at which point I would not be happy anyway as it would cause damage to not just the chain but the bar seals and other assorted rotating bits that I don’t want to replace prematurely. So having said that I’ll hit the oiler a little more and not worry about it. I think when it comes to deciding which saw to purchase you really just need to look at a few factors. Weight- the 070 is heavy and is more so the longer you wield it, the 660 clone is slightly less weight.
Ergonomics- the 660 is typical for most chainsaws only larger, the 070 will take some getting used to if you are slightly built like me but likely fine if you are 6’ or taller.
Power- they have totally different torque and power curves. 070 runs slower with more torque is less db’s, 660 higher revving higher db’s higher chain speed which in my opinion and experience causes fatigue faster.
Consumables- the 660 is going to run through everything faster, chain oil fuel, you name it, it leaves faster. Having said that you must consider time savings here which will reflect your cents per hour for run time along with time working on a job. Big consideration here.
Lastly
Fun factor- hands down the 070 clone is the funniest saw I have to operate. It sounds cool looks cool is cool to operate, the squirrels pay attention when you start it up, your wife gives you extra points for throwing it around, that is priceless too. Hopefully this helps with your decision bud. In the grand scheme of things I could never and still can’t afford an oem saw from husky or stihl, these saws though not perfect if you take care and maintain them are almost as good as the oems at a fraction of the cost. When you can’t afford to pay a tree service but you can get in to one of these and do the same job then keep the saw at the end of the job it is a win win situation! Hope this helps and if you decide drop a line back and let us know what ya ended up with! Thanks for commenting and all the best, Ric
I wish my farmmac f660 started like that.
Hey bud, sorry for the delay. We have been away from TH-cam for a while now but trying to at least respond to comments. Most of the time I have found these clones are off on the tuning from the factory. Some are close some are way off. Once you get it going the first time start trying to find the tune. After you have broke it in for a couple of tanks then I would tune it again. After that you should only have to retune when the air density changes or your fuel changes, keep in mind the air filter should always be clean along with good plug . . All the best, Ric
It's nice to see someone making a quality clone. I might have to pick up a F660. Do you know if they are coming out with a top handle saw?
I can tell you since we have been working with these folks not only has the first generation saws been better than others that are out(my personal experience as I have owned and still have the blue saws too), they are and have a constant desire to improve but also have a high standard of product. You could see In previous comments from other vids where they have lacked in one way or another and they have stepped up. They needed better contact in fo which we had been pushing for on many reasons and they finally got these things taken care of. Much of what people don't know is how the internet is controlled in China. The government controls how business works without government help and that is frowned upon which makes Chinese business difficult to make things happen for the average small business there. They have overcame many odds and recently stopped producing parts for FT because of various reason, some you should be able to figure out. At any rate to answer your question yes they are working on a couple top handle saws but I wouldn't expect to see them soon as they will be ground up saws, yes likely old patents expired but still will be new production with much development too. Hope this helps! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Personally we have been using the 1st generation 872, and 892 for felling and bucking. Recently we purchased the NH837 which is a Husky 537xp clone and I love that little saw. I had been using the echo cs335 which is a great saw but the power is lacking. This 837 is splitting time with 3 people now and it has turned out to be a great little saw! We are very happy with them all for sure! Thanks again! Enjoy, Ric
I just ordered their top handle model and looking forward to trying it out in the trees soon
Be nice to be able to buy one - everywhere here/online is "Currently Unavailable". :-( I'd buy one in the morning - but no bueno.
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put 21 inch bar on the 070 and 8 tooth to get it broke in. :)
Would you get the 92cc or the 105cc chinese clone saw for milling wood into long boards? I will be using the standard cheap chinese chainsaw mill.
The 92cc is much quicker, lighter, more mod potential, just many more positives with the 660 clone. The 070 is great but you can’t get past the size and heft plus the fact you are most always going to take longer while running the 070, hope this helps. Thanks for commenting, Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead Yes, this helps a lot! I think You've made my decision. Now to decide on the 42" vs 36" bar and which milling chain to get. Can't let these logs sit and rot in the woods!
A word on chain, if you are going to be doing a lot of chainsaw milling consider purchasing skip link roll chain and or custom file your own roll chain. It could save you money in the long run. About the only wood you can let lay is white oak and some of the cedars, try to leave none directly on the ground and seal them if you can. Have fun, Ric
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I’m going to buy one but I’m confused on the differences. What is the difference between the Neotec 660v, farmmac 660v, and the farmmac 660vw? I see the same thing with the 380, it shows a 380 and a 380w? From what I see there is the orange ones, the black and gray ones, and the carbon ones. Is there any real difference between them?
Yes there are some big differences. From what I read in the literature online, the f660v is the highest performance, it has a better coil, better carb, better rubbers in the bushings area, I'm going just from memory here on that but I believe it is accurate. In the standard ns892 the inverse is true, it lacks the Italian ignition, the fancy walbro card, the same for the rubber products. For the saws that have the "W" they are the white editions and lack some of the upgraded components as do the carbon units, I believe they lack the upgraded parts too. The Farmmac line is billed as pro models and in my opinion they are built a touch better and are stamped with date builds, plastics and other parts do come from Italy, Taiwan, , Sweden or other countries where Stihl or Husqvarna acquire there parts,, I do not know if they come from the same parts suppliers of them but they are stamped and do appear to be better.. I can tell you that the f660v we use in the video is much higher performance than the standard ns892 which isn't a bad saw, but the f660v is a better performing saw. In every way it does perform better in my opinion. I purchased my first clone saw almost 3 years ago and they have great value but do come with some flaws from time to time. I don't expect that but when it happens I repair if needed. We have only had 1 issue with the Neo-tec nh843, it had a looser air filter which didn't affect it, they sent me 2 air filters to use for the one problem and that has been the only issue. No they are not perfect with fit and finish which is why we show close up imagery. We always tear them down when we get them and also recommend people do that with any new equipment. Everything gets loctite and lubed, reassembled just to make sure before use. I think that is a good idea on anything because if you find an issue you can note it before you run and get disappointed.
Refer to either there website or the Amazon store and it should tell you things I can't remember. I work with saws and 2 strokes every day so I'm pretty finicky about things working and staying in good ready working condition. With clones from any brand you just need to make sure everything is in good working order. Your purchasing a clone with either a 90 day or 6 month warranty, this is why you have to check them very closely from the beginning. Hope this helps, thanks for commenting and subscribing, Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead considering the price of the 660 and the 380 are so close, would you even bother buying the smaller 380 over the 660? I don’t know what the weight difference is, but if the 660 cuts faster and gets it done faster, is the extra 2 pounds worth it?
@@JohnDoe-ud2cc well if your rounding with the 660 and a 24inch bar it I still much heavier to me but I am a slightly built guy with bad shoulders back and wrists, I like a 70cc class saw for small(less than 14 inch) rounding but prefer the 660 for anything over that just for what you stated, it's quick and cuts much faster through big wood. We don't round pines but use them on the sawmill so when we cut pines they typically don't exceed 16 inches and it makes for quick work as we usually cut them in 12' log lengths. But with rounding 70cc saw for me, if I could handle lugging the 660 I would, now saying all this I rounded a 12 or 13" tree this Saturday with the 070 clone with a 42 inch bar and the tree was 80' long, that's alot of rounds and by the end I was on the ground rounding, it whooped my tail! If you have the stamina and the power to wield the 660, that's what I would do if I were you, that a hell of a saw for sure!
Ric.
Nice video 👍
Tha k you! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
Can you please do a review of the neo-tec 25.8cc top handle 12" chainsaw. I just ordered one and there's hardly any reviews or videos. It's $138 with the bar and chain on Amazon currently with a $10 off coupon.
Actually we just purchased one and are working on a review of it working now! Look for it soon! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead I will! Mine should be here before Saturday. I ordered a spare chain with it too. Looking forward to the video.
I love my top handle neo-tec. I have a couple shorts on my other channel CP garage. I have some cool videos coming up on it as well. Hopefully going to get the f070 soon.
I'd like to get my hands on one of the F660V's and have a look inside. Hint, Hint...
You ain’t got to pump oil continuously.. on the old saw give it a squirt when you start to see smoke..
I also read that the F660V FarmMac has a Walbro carb instead of a Chinese carb.
Yes it does. They actually have several saws with the Walbro carb. We have the ns892 first gen saw from them , I don't remember if it has the walbro on it but I can tell you there is a world of difference between the ns892 and this saw. The f660 is very responsive and I would bet is every bit 95% if not more close to the stihl ms660/661. Great running and functioning saw this one is. Thanks for commenting!
Ric
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Tell them they need to make a Ms 440 magnum clone please
070 has auto oiler and Manuel is for extra in heavy cut. neather of saws are broke in I can tell . they sound tight . what's difference in neotech and farmertech ?
Hey there! Yes both of these saws were only heat cycled for an hour each before they were used under load, which is typical for me when I use new equipment. I have tried longer and shorter breakins in the past, this in my opinion works best which I could be wrong but this is my opinion. As for the difference between the 2 companies, that is a long discussion. Both started as repair parts suppliers both are located in the manufacturing sectors of China. At one time they worked together to accomplish the same goal, provide repair and build parts to tool manufacturers. In the last 20 or so years give or take they have independently started a line of tools for sale. Each has grown with obvious issues. They both have quality issues from time to time. We own both brands and use both brands. In my opinion the quality is substantially better than the FT brand, however I haven't used or purchased a new FT saw in over 2 years, it could be better now but I honestly can't say on them. The Neo-tec equipment is similar in machine model and type, the quality is just much improved. The quality of the bars are much better than the FT and they have a great variety of bar types also. I hope this helps! Thanks for commenting and subscribing, Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmsteadYou still give the nod to neotech over farm tech today?
Actually I do bud. Still use them every day too. I have sold the 872 to a fella and he mills with it, I only used it for felling and bucking, he will be more severe with it for sure. I did blow up the 843 running it to lean(+14k rpm) for to long during the work days. The extended high rpm causes greater float than normal use, the rod floated just enough it shaved enough metal off the cases to lock the rod then break a small piece off of the rod. Unfortunately at that point it created more damage. Having said all of this, there is something to be said about a saw that runs that well and strong but can easily be manipulated to give you the false since of security you should run it like that and you shouldn’t. Just because you can, maybe you shouldn’t but I did.
So yes, still using out neotec saws even though we haven’t created a vid in some time now. I’m a tree guy full time now so I have no choice! Thanks for commenting, Ric
How does the F070 differ from the ns8105?
Hey there! From what I know the following parts are the same as what stihl uses for oem saws. The carb, flywheel and ignition are all supposed to be the same as what Oem stihl uses. I believe it has a few other upgrades compared to the NT8105. I can't say for sure all the differences but to my knowledge that's what the upgrades are. Thanks for commenting and Happy New Years!
Ric
What size bar was on that farm Mac 660?
36" based on the log he was cutting
Gibt es die Sägen auch für Germany?
I suppose you could order from the USA or from Australia then ship to Germany but that would be an added expense. I will ask and get back to you! What saw do you currently use now?Thanks for commenting 👍and subscribing!
Ric
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Thanks so much, subscribing to yours also, thanks you!
Ric
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I just bought a F660vw. Would not start and now would not even turn over without decompression.
What do I need to do?///
I called Neotec , but no support.
can you help?
Just from what you have mentioned it sounds like you have flooded it assuming it doesn't have a mechanical failure. In general saws 700cc's and above are easy to flood also known as fuel fouling. This can happen by trying to start the engine with the choke on and pulling the start cord more times than needed after fuel has entered the engine itself. Once the engine has basically filled with to much fuel it most likely will not start because both the engine and the plug have to much fuel for it to be ignited. As for it only rotating when the decomp is pressed, the 660 clone has a lot of compression, it is a big engine and they are difficult to pull in general. When starting any two stroke or even 4 stroke the engine must turn at a fast rate to effectively fire off the fuel , if the motor is turning to slow then you aren't creating enough opportunities to ignite the fuel quickly. This is similar to a weak battery trying to start a automobile , turns so slow makes nothing happen, same principle.
Back on the flooding. To clear the engine of fuel you must squeeze the trigger while simultaneously pulling the start cord rapidly and many many times quickly, the choke must be off also. Most likely you will pull the cord 20 to 30 times and then it will fire off, after it fires off the first time still leave the choke off. Now let go of the fuel trigger continue to pull and it will start, it will seem boggy at first as more than likely there is still an excessive amount of fuel lingering in the engine but it will fire off.
Running a large engine saw takes patience and strength. They are heavy and large capacity engines , everything has to happen harder because they are so large. In other consideration they also use more fuel and air which means you have more opportunities to make errors by using or by creating malfunctions. Normal starting use full choke,Pull it fast and pull it hard hard until it fires off the first time then turn it to half choke. Now pull if fast and hard again they usually start within 3 pulls if you are pulling fast and hard. Let it run for 10 to 15 seconds at fast idle then squeeze the trigger and let go it will go to normal idle. If you watch some of the vids we have on the 660 clones you will see the procedure we use running 660 clones. Hope this helps, Ric
Thanks for your reply. I am going to try your suggestion first. The issue that I have is that the engine will not turn unless I hold the decompression button in all the time, otherwise I cannot turn the engine over with the rope. It is too hard.
@@johanvanwyk4880 yes, they are very hard to pull to make them rotate. I would say it is the equivalent to kick starting a 250cc 2 stroke dirtbike or pull starting most 4 strokes 200cc's and above. When I flood them out I have to take a break if it doesn't clear out quickly. I start with it at my mid section grasping the saw tightly to make sure I have the benefit of the entire pull. You can also do a ground start with your foot in the handle to create more leverage with your body. This will help also. The saw will not start if the decomp is held in all the time as this relieves all compression and you need the compression to create the vapor charge so as to ignite. You should only press the decomp one time. Yes it is very hard but it is a 660. The 070 is much harder to start than the 660, I try to start it from my waist but almost always end up starting from the ground . You need to clear the excess fuel out first, hopefully the plug isn't fuel fouled which happens if you keep over fueling. I know this likely seems bleak but it isn't as bad as you think. Stay patient, pull fast and hard and it will start. Once you get the hang of it you will see how easy it is to both start and not start the larger saws. Stay patient and you will get it. You got this!
Ric
Will they ever build a 3120 clone?
I know the 395 clone should be arriving in the states later this month, not sure of the exact date yet tho. Neo-tec actually has several things in the works that will be here much quicker than everyone else has taken, and much better quality too. If you could imagine the possibilities I can say they are more than likely already in the development stages. As for this year, unfortunately I can't speculate on that, I wish I could though! Sure would be nice to mill with!
Hope this helps! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
That manual oiler is in a horrible location, were it on the left where you could use your thumb that becomes a great setup with that good low end torque. The 660 sounds just like my Stihl 660 and I believe that’s a good deal and tried to get my father in law to buy one instead of the Stihl but he wanted a Stihl. Now that they have made some upgrades like you discussed it’s hard to spend all that extra money on a stihl in my opinion.
I agree totally. It is also pulse along with having the manual oiler so I have been told. We have the original first gen 892 and this f660 sure is a hotrod compared to it, the 892 is no slouch too by the way. I think if a person kept things in perspective they will find these will do what they want but also keep alot of money in your pockets too. I had to make that decision a few years ago, still have that first one and it still runs. Worth it and if it breaks and you fix it you are still less than what you would have for the oem equivalent. Thanks for commenting and thanks for watching!
Ric
Why don’t they sell the bars and chains for the saws all together why do I have to hunt for them?
I can't really speculate the reason for that but I can mention that with our contact just so that they will know. Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
you can find 24 32 36 w chain 120 or less neotech brand high quality I must admit the chains are are excellent just for buy a Oregon High quality appropriately sized file break saw in 25 to 1 min 4 tanks short bursts of wide open I then switch to ethanol free 91 octane mixed 40 to 1 high quality semi synthetic 2 stroke oil check plug after first half tank of 40 1 should be good to go they rip. TH-cam has several goid videos on cheap upgrades to prevent break downs for an Xtra 75 u have a very good saw. I may port mine eventually but it runs so sweet As is almost 2 much power especially w 36 w 28 full chisel balanced nice can fell or buck firewood for days enough power that a dull chain cuts even careful w rakers go to low and this thing will rip your arms off in a holtz 660 I'm very interested in farm mac nice lower rpms lots of torque
would u agree neotech 660 best bang for buck
Yeah, we have 3 g660s from over a 2 year span, but we also have the ns892 Neo-tec and now this Farmmac 660, by far both the Neo-tec and the Farmmac (certainly the strongest and best built), I would say yes they are much better than the bluesaw. Not that it is bad by any means, but, if your going to spend the same amount of money I am going to get the better piece. Looks play a part too , hands down the Neo-tec and Farmmac saws win that easily, performance, quality. It's an easy choice for me bud. What is your experience with the blue saw?
Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing! Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead nice I plan to get the 660 version farm mac power head nothing against there bars and chains but I have the large ones going to get a stihl lightweight 24 full skip chisel and demolish a pile of 16 cord hardwood maple and yellow birch Beach all 16 to 28 inches I have found a light coat of grease helps seat the air filter are the macs better look better in your vids
Sounds like you know how to put it to good use.! It is the little things that matter isn't it! As for the bars I can't complain about them, they are good bars and all rust free too!
We usually run 24 to 28 and on occasion will run them out a bit further, I don't prefer that being 5'5, makes them hard to handle! Happy rounding ! Ric
The F070 is a steal of Echo's CS-1201
Get Holzfforma G660 vs Farmmac F660V
Yes, we have it also.
Nice saw but that oiler is painful!!!
Yes, yes it is LOL! I'm sure I managed to under and over oil from time to time and even forget to oil also! But hey, life is about lessons, sometimes you are the teacher and sometimes you are the student. On this day I was a little of both! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
@@CornucopiaFarmstead the 070 also has an automatic oiler.
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eli silva & zé goiano
composição: moacir dos santos / zé goiano
o machado e a motosserra tiveram uma discussão
motosserra diz que é orgulho da evolução
machado pra mim já era pois vem do tempo de adão
você agora só serve pra fazer calo na mão
motosserra dá um ronco relou o dente no tronco já se vê o pau no chão
a serra chamou o machado pra fazer uma porfia
machado aceitou na hora e quando chegou o dia
entraram junto no mato pra mostrar a serventia
a motosserra roncava machado velho tinia
e naquele matagal foi só cavaco de pau pó de serra que subia
e esse grande duelo deste jeito é que termina
na briga das ferramentas o machado é que domina
motosserra parou cedo ali no tronco da quina
machado seguiu cortando mata grossa e mata fina
motosserra impotente rebentou sua corrente acabou a gasolina
que isto sirva de exemplo para toda humanidade e você que é tão jovem tem que saber a verdade respeite bem os mais velhos não brinque com sua idade uma pessoa idosa também tem utilidade é um diamante valioso se não tivesse o idoso não teria mocidade
I noticed the 660 was around 30 second cut vs 40 second on the 070. The RPMs make a big difference and for a long day the 660 at half the weight will allow the oporator to run longer ;)
Absolutely, we ran them together to show this possibility too. Depending on the wood from my experience harder woods be it hickory to oaks and the like, chain speeds make a difference when I have cut different species. The 070 won’t always be appropriate but then again the same applies to the 660. I’ve found while cutting with top handles I will switch from the little 25cc to the 35cc depending on either hardness or density of the wood fiber. Having said all of this time is not just money , time cannot be replaced. Experience and life will teach us what is best if that is we pay attention. Hauling the 070 even without the bar can be a workout! Thanks for commenting, Ric
Any way you could do a start procedure video on the the farmac F070 I just got mine a they forget to include the instructions in the package
Hello there I hate that, but they do seem to leave out a couple of parts here and there every now and then and still for the grand scheme of things that’s not bad considering for what you get but one thing you sure would like to have is the manual I know always hate it when that happens when they’re missing and believe it or not The sawmill we have we bought it in 2020 to the beginning of the year before Covid hit and we did not actually get the manual. I wanna say until 2021 almost a year after we made the purchase and it wasn’t until I got on Facebook and started, letting my experience be known about Frontier and how they seem to do things or did things back then I don’t believe they’re like that now but anyway the only way I was able to get a manual was somebody had one and took the time to copy every page and then every page made it a PDF . They then sent it to me and that’s how I got the manual to be able to assemble the sawmill . I contacted Frontier Sawmills in Canada and there was a lady there named Sarah I believe who worked in the warehouse that saw one of my post from the Facebook page in Canada and she managed to get me a manual and a lot of the missing parts but the main parts that I was missing all that took around a year to happen but Anyway I know what it’s like! I’ll try to make a video in the next couple of days that helps you to start this. It’s essentially the same as any big size and when I say big, I mean 90 cc or above choke and try to plug that’s essentially what you’re doing if you’re choking it too long and constantly pulling it did you’re probably flooding it And potentially plug so for me it’s a matter of choke at one time pull it real good and hard 2 to 3 times and once it initially barks over then you turn the choke halfway off or off and you just pull until it starts that’s essentially it said all of that it still easy to flood it and plug. You just have to have a good solid pay attention to when it sparks over the first time you have really good fuel really fresh fuel that’s not too rich in oil too rich is what I consider over 25 to one our equipment, two stroke we run in the winter 40 to one and in the summer 50 to one.. I’ll comment here as soon as I can get the video made. Thanks for commenting. Ric
I’m sorry about that response not being grammatically correct this is voice text as I’m working with gloves on in the woods right now! Hopefully you can decide for everything that was said if not a video sure would clear these things up!
Ric
th-cam.com/video/a43xycHlU2w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jSEyMRLBwUfikVGN
This is from Neotec’s own TH-cam for starting on the 070. I apologize for delay. It is a beast of a saw and will easily flood like any other big saw.
Ric
I think something is wrong with that saw the first chainsaw it don't sound good I don't love how it sound
The first saw was the f660, the stihl ms 660 clone. This was the first time either of these 2 saws actually cut hard. They were heat cycling for breakin only then were used cutting in this vid. Neither had the carbs tuned until we put them in wood. The f660 was very rich and as you can see I tuned both while using them. After even this video they were both fine tuned more as the motors were used more. Both of these saws functioned well and were free of any defects and still run well today!
Thanks for commenting, Ric
The 070 will cut everything
Yes it will! Thanks for commenting 👍 and subscribing!
Ric
Tensioner is bullshit only by dogs..
I agree completely, I don’t know any clone that has a great tensioner, they have improved but are still no where near as good as any oem saw for sure.
I bet those Chinese saws don't last as long as still or husky
Indeed