Yeah, especially considering they gave Cyber Dragon it's alt art here despite being one of the extra good stuff cards, but ignored doing the same to what amounts to the cover cards given the Supreme King is on the box. Really don't comprehend what they were thinking with this. Could've just done it like LCGX at the very least where the normals are common and the alt arts are secrets again.
Feels like Neos would need a new card to be playable for Speed Duel format. Basically a "This card is always treated as Neos. If you control a Neo Spacian you can special summon this monster". Because otherwise the only deck they can release is Neos Fusion or bust.
I wish they’d add neos before they backtrack to og yugioh. Also did we really not send this to MBT? The only guy who I actually see talking about speed duel? Huge miss.
I wonder if they are ever going to release GX season 4 stuff, but considering that characters like Darkness or Trueman aren´t even in Duel Links I doubt it. The closest would be Judai/Yubel being a thing in DL but to my knowledge that's the extent to which they are acknowledging it, even the also non-dubbed Ark Cradle from 5Ds is more referenced. I guess that O'Brien getting literally traumatized on-screen about his parent's death really was way too much.
They did have Jaden Vs Darkness as a DLC duel in Legacy of the Duelist, and I believe Darkness was the last opponent in the GX era of the old Duel Generations game, but it’s awkward from a business standpoint to promote characters that a majority of viewers weren’t exposed to. That being said, the only reason they ignored season 4 was because it made sense to rush to 5DS as a way to promote the synchros.
Sad they didn’t include Archfiend’s Awakening as a reference to Titan Ritual summoning Archfiend Matador (which is currently anime-only) by tributing Summoned Skull. 😢
I hope Speed Duels get more popular. They are a lot more beginner friendly for the general public. Just a little concerned about where Konami takes it from here. Like I don't mind doing Battle City again but after that what do you think they will do?
I would think Konami would bounce around between different arcs, but they are clearly willing to milk Battle City again. I want a set with cards from the 2 Digital World Arcs, along with the episode where Jaden went into a computer.
What would be interesting is if they did some sort of tie-in between this and DL, such as releasing a new Legendary Duelist in DM or whatnot in Speed Duels while also running an event to obtain that duelist in DL. Especially since it is most likely meant as a bridge between Duel Links and regular YGO rather than strictly a "beginner" format.
You know what would be a really interesting thing to do with speed duel box sets? Do Sevens and Go Rush themed ones. We aren’t getting rush duels physically here anyways, might as well give us some kind of English printing of the cards. Even tho they’d be very weak when adapted to speed, Konami could always give them busted skills to compensate.
D-boyz finally getting D reprint. also not sure ih joe watched cyber knights opening, but dark fusion is also 1 of the secret rares, and looks pretty good.
Though I agree that 5D's is a dramatic shift for those getting into the game off of DM/GX nostalgia there is still quite a bit of nostalgia for 5D's (just look at the popularity of Edison) and if the point is to get folks wanting to get into big boy yugioh through Speed Duels then it should do something to bring in new summoning mechanics as teaching tools. So if we do ever get 5D's speed duels here is how I would do it. First design each character's decks in a way that they can work competently without synchro monsters (blackwings and plants can do a fantastic job as battle and swarming focused strategies without ever making extra deck plays). Then if players want to use tuners to make synchros they have the OPTION to play a synchro in their Skill slot. So like for example something like a Stardust Skill will read like a monster card with a rules reminder on synchro summoning like this (Synchro Summon this card by sending the above materials to the GY whose levels total to exactly 8) and be something like a Dragon/Synchro/Skill card with atk, def, a level, attribute, and effect; you can still play the big synchro bosses but you only get one and give up a skill so it's not overwelming and you can play fine without them. In addition to the Synchro skills each Character should also get a non Synchro Skill to play their decks in a more classic way, Yusei can have a skill that gives a monster he controls and atk boost equal to the combined atk of all lvl 2 or lower monsters, Jack can have a skill that searches a card that does piercing and gives his piercers double battle damage, Akiza and Crow can get Lonefire/Black Garden and Blackwirlwind as skills, Luna some weird field spell effect, Leo can get equips and position changing effects to use his morphotropics more effectively. There is so much potential in a 5D's set and this format can be used to introduce XYZ, Pends, and Links down the line in a way that doesn't break the game.
With Speed Duel already being on life support, it only made sense to go back to DM. Weird that they chose to go back to the 1 specific arc that already has a box, but it could be them trying to recreate the sales of the first BCB.
The two are not really related. Speed Duel is explicitly a US generated product. They have no control over whether or not HQ prints an entirely separate game.
@@RunicSigils That is true. I was not suggesting that they were in any way officially related however in my mind, despite one being singular supplemental products and the other being an entirely seperate product line, they share the same role as “the other version of the game but without one player jerking off for ten minutes while their opponents sit idle unable to interact before being told they lost the game”.😅
Posted this in the original Twitter thread but I still assume that they're going back to DM just to slow down the progression through the series. If they kept it at 3 sets per series they would not be able to have a whole lot of sets so instead doing 3 of a new series + 1 old series one makes it so they could release more product without being stuck on one series for too long.
Plus the Battle City Box and the old DM decks are out of print and way too expensive second-hand. From how many Midterm Paradox sets are still on store shelves, I think they want all of these to be accessible to players.
Aside from how much we all love retro formats, Konami needs to push them as the next step from speed duels. After being comfortable with speed duels, the next step is Edison.
I'm SO HYPE! GOD I love speed duel, and I don't necessarily hate the battle city refocus, especially if it makes some of the older cards from EARLY speed duel way easier to get, y'know? but yeah! Looking pretty cool! :D
It's weird how the theming of this box is Season 3/4, and then like half of the support is for Season 1 guys. Unless it's supposed to be villains, but then there's still some notable exclusions. Give us Dark Worlds, Konami! You can even make Colorless as a skill.
Speed Duel cards are TCG legal but nothing the other way around. You need cards with the watermark to be legal. So if you're like me and have a pile of these cards from when they came out, you can't use those. Although tbh you may be able to get away with it of your OTS is desperate enough for players.
Well, the difference is that Battle City has already been way more thoroughly explored in the TCG, and this is easier than making a bunch of new cards for the other arcs.
To be more exact, they aren't free to make new cards for this in general since it's the American branch that does this. Main TCG/OCG would need to be involved and since Japan doesn't have Speed Duels it's really not a world premier card option.
Is there a list of what cards are legal in speed duel somewhere? Im curious about the format but I don't want to buy all the speed duel shit because i have alot of old cards anyway so i could just use those and buy the skill cards
If you want to play in any official setting, Konami's rules say you have to use the actual Speed Duel prints. If you're playing in an environment where this doesn't matter you can use your old cards of course but luckily almost all Speed Duel cards are very cheap anyway. As for the viewing of the cards, Duelingbook lets you filter Speed Duel legal cards at least.
I think it's right to not go to Synchro they could build a new game for slightly later stuff. Agree they should do something different to battle city. I think they should print new cards for people like Duke and Tristan and make mini decks that work for them
I can't fucking believe adding stars together is so complicated they're just not letting 5Ds into the children's card game I can guarantee Xyz will be in there evntually
There's a lot of potential for DM product, i would buy the SHIT out of a millenium world themed box, or a darkside of dimensions box, or they can also get a little cringe and add stuff from the filler DM arcs. I also don't think it makes sense to go back to battle City again, its already been done, what else New is there to see?
Maybe I'm too TCG-brained but I feel like you can Altus + Aerosol just double or even triple handrip someone with the Fog Warning skill turn 1 and the game is just over
As the only MBT fan who watched all of GX Adrian is here because he becomes a villain in season 3, but he plays Exodia when he's a villain not Cloudian so the deck choice does not match up.
Pack openings and reactions to pack openings are cool, but what youtubers should be doing if they want to promote the format is actual gameplay imo. ;)
I gave up on speed duels. There's no support for it in any of the locals I go to. I still keep some sealed products in sleeves to play with non-yugioh-playing friends, cause it's a much better nostalgia bait than GOAT, surprisingly. But to actually play it? Nah, it's dead.
I love how Joseph has this conception of himself of understanding the game and being a deck builder etc in reality his best accomplishment is day 2 in a ycs with floo
Massive miss on the E hero vanillas not being the alt arts.
Yeah, especially considering they gave Cyber Dragon it's alt art here despite being one of the extra good stuff cards, but ignored doing the same to what amounts to the cover cards given the Supreme King is on the box.
Really don't comprehend what they were thinking with this. Could've just done it like LCGX at the very least where the normals are common and the alt arts are secrets again.
The alt arts were Aster Phoenix's versions of them iirc
They’ve printed these mfs in every single GX set too. Same art every time.
We still don’t even have alt art clayman/wildheart
@@ToxicAtom No, the alt arts were the Supreme King's versions. There was also an alt art Clayman in the anime, but it never got printed.
I do appreciate how "Attention Duelists!" is still a line commonly used by Konami to this day.
I like how "Duelist" is Yugiohs version of "Trainer" or "Tamer" etc
Attention, all link spamming gamers
So worth noting that tons of GX stuff is still missing. Namely the Neos and the Neo-Spacians.
Bdw why didn’t they do sartorious deck
Feels like Neos would need a new card to be playable for Speed Duel format.
Basically a "This card is always treated as Neos. If you control a Neo Spacian you can special summon this monster". Because otherwise the only deck they can release is Neos Fusion or bust.
Or a skill related to Neos…
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 They are just printing new cards in these sets maybe they'd just give you Brave Neos lol.
I wish they’d add neos before they backtrack to og yugioh. Also did we really not send this to MBT? The only guy who I actually see talking about speed duel? Huge miss.
I never realized how gorgeous the Speed Duel Secret Rares were
It feels like the only instance where Konami QC actually tries.
I have speed duel secrets of Jinzo, Armed Dragon LV7 and Dogoran the mad flame Kaiju and they look amazing.
as far as i can tell, all speed duel cards seem to be printed in the EU
@@ArshadHosein pretty sure that you’re right about that
God the Speed Duel secrets look so nice. I love having foiling on the cards that doesn't just turn it into a glitter filled mess like modern secrets.
I wonder if they are ever going to release GX season 4 stuff, but considering that characters like Darkness or Trueman aren´t even in Duel Links I doubt it. The closest would be Judai/Yubel being a thing in DL but to my knowledge that's the extent to which they are acknowledging it, even the also non-dubbed Ark Cradle from 5Ds is more referenced. I guess that O'Brien getting literally traumatized on-screen about his parent's death really was way too much.
For what it’s worth, Axel has a voice line for Trueman so they clearly have plans once they finish up Season 3 of GX.
We could basically see anyone in Speed Duels at this point considering only 1 of the characters in this set is in Duel Links.
They did have Jaden Vs Darkness as a DLC duel in Legacy of the Duelist, and I believe Darkness was the last opponent in the GX era of the old Duel Generations game, but it’s awkward from a business standpoint to promote characters that a majority of viewers weren’t exposed to. That being said, the only reason they ignored season 4 was because it made sense to rush to 5DS as a way to promote the synchros.
Wonder why they did Adrian over Aster.
EDIT: The Red-Eyes deck is almost a reprint card for card of the OG structure deck.
Aster was already done in the last set
and Adrian beat Aster so hes better
I have the red eyes speed duel structure deck and this version is absolutely much better
Sad they didn’t include Archfiend’s Awakening as a reference to Titan Ritual summoning Archfiend Matador (which is currently anime-only) by tributing Summoned Skull. 😢
Idk why Speed Duel Secrets look so much nicer than regular secrets, but I’m all for it
It took 18 years but Don Zaloog finally came!
I hope Speed Duels get more popular. They are a lot more beginner friendly for the general public. Just a little concerned about where Konami takes it from here. Like I don't mind doing Battle City again but after that what do you think they will do?
If they were gonna go back they should have just gone to the start tbh.
I would think Konami would bounce around between different arcs, but they are clearly willing to milk Battle City again.
I want a set with cards from the 2 Digital World Arcs, along with the episode where Jaden went into a computer.
There's still a ton of GX characters left to do. Any waking the dragon/grand championship stuff from DM.
Every time my favorite part 2:57 “You don’t wanna do the non-canon season, what about another non-canon season?”😊
The Thief King Bakura embargo is real
What would be interesting is if they did some sort of tie-in between this and DL, such as releasing a new Legendary Duelist in DM or whatnot in Speed Duels while also running an event to obtain that duelist in DL. Especially since it is most likely meant as a bridge between Duel Links and regular YGO rather than strictly a "beginner" format.
Everyone freaking out in chat about Cliff being "errata'd" to have "Dark Scorpion" in his name, acting like it wasn't already done back in 2012...
Armor cards as speed duel original cards would be awesome
love the coverage man, we need more speed duel hype!
You know what would be a really interesting thing to do with speed duel box sets? Do Sevens and Go Rush themed ones. We aren’t getting rush duels physically here anyways, might as well give us some kind of English printing of the cards. Even tho they’d be very weak when adapted to speed, Konami could always give them busted skills to compensate.
D-boyz finally getting D reprint. also not sure ih joe watched cyber knights opening, but dark fusion is also 1 of the secret rares, and looks pretty good.
"You can just go pyramid turtle into-" yeah about that...
The funny thing is Kaibaland cup isn't cannon either
Though I agree that 5D's is a dramatic shift for those getting into the game off of DM/GX nostalgia there is still quite a bit of nostalgia for 5D's (just look at the popularity of Edison) and if the point is to get folks wanting to get into big boy yugioh through Speed Duels then it should do something to bring in new summoning mechanics as teaching tools.
So if we do ever get 5D's speed duels here is how I would do it. First design each character's decks in a way that they can work competently without synchro monsters (blackwings and plants can do a fantastic job as battle and swarming focused strategies without ever making extra deck plays). Then if players want to use tuners to make synchros they have the OPTION to play a synchro in their Skill slot. So like for example something like a Stardust Skill will read like a monster card with a rules reminder on synchro summoning like this (Synchro Summon this card by sending the above materials to the GY whose levels total to exactly 8) and be something like a Dragon/Synchro/Skill card with atk, def, a level, attribute, and effect; you can still play the big synchro bosses but you only get one and give up a skill so it's not overwelming and you can play fine without them. In addition to the Synchro skills each Character should also get a non Synchro Skill to play their decks in a more classic way, Yusei can have a skill that gives a monster he controls and atk boost equal to the combined atk of all lvl 2 or lower monsters, Jack can have a skill that searches a card that does piercing and gives his piercers double battle damage, Akiza and Crow can get Lonefire/Black Garden and Blackwirlwind as skills, Luna some weird field spell effect, Leo can get equips and position changing effects to use his morphotropics more effectively. There is so much potential in a 5D's set and this format can be used to introduce XYZ, Pends, and Links down the line in a way that doesn't break the game.
That Red Eyes deck looks like something I built back in the day when I wasnt competitive and made for fun theme decks
Just waiting for he Jim cook set to come out babyyy. Release my guy
I'm surprised no Arcana Force BUT Supreme King is also good! I am surprised no Inferno Sniper or whatever it was called. I must GET this box!
With Speed Duel already being on life support, it only made sense to go back to DM. Weird that they chose to go back to the 1 specific arc that already has a box, but it could be them trying to recreate the sales of the first BCB.
We just got sneak peeks for duel links skills, fog warning specifically.
Damn lithium really decided he was going to have one profile picture and never change it for 10 years
Im going to start asking my ots store if they can start doing speed duel stuff.
Every time I see a speed duel release I cannot help but wish it were english Rush Duel cards instead.
The two are not really related.
Speed Duel is explicitly a US generated product. They have no control over whether or not HQ prints an entirely separate game.
@@RunicSigils That is true. I was not suggesting that they were in any way officially related however in my mind, despite one being singular supplemental products and the other being an entirely seperate product line, they share the same role as “the other version of the game but without one player jerking off for ten minutes while their opponents sit idle unable to interact before being told they lost the game”.😅
what the fuck why did they print Alchemy Beast skills but not a SINGLE ALCHEMY BEAST
How often do you want to reprint the ElementalHEROes in Speed Duel?
Konami: "YES!"
The fucked up part of you thinking I'd go to a clips channel to watch a 25 minute video, is that I'm here, and you were right somehow.
Sigurn's Valkyries would be perfect for Speed Duels
I think Battle City must have sold especially well, if they are going back to it.
Posted this in the original Twitter thread but I still assume that they're going back to DM just to slow down the progression through the series. If they kept it at 3 sets per series they would not be able to have a whole lot of sets so instead doing 3 of a new series + 1 old series one makes it so they could release more product without being stuck on one series for too long.
Plus the Battle City Box and the old DM decks are out of print and way too expensive second-hand. From how many Midterm Paradox sets are still on store shelves, I think they want all of these to be accessible to players.
MBT can you make a video about drafting with speed duel product please? I love the idea of playing with cards that are not OP
If only they used the quality of secret rare foiling on TCG cards
Aside from how much we all love retro formats, Konami needs to push them as the next step from speed duels. After being comfortable with speed duels, the next step is Edison.
i missed out on the first battle city, excited for this set
Damnit, we can't even get venom support in speed duels.
I really hope we get to see a king of speed duel tournament 3
Ngl i dont play speed duels but the inclusions here are nice i might actually buy 3 of this
They did in fact print Spirit Gates
I'm SO HYPE! GOD I love speed duel, and I don't necessarily hate the battle city refocus, especially if it makes some of the older cards from EARLY speed duel way easier to get, y'know? but yeah! Looking pretty cool! :D
It's weird how the theming of this box is Season 3/4, and then like half of the support is for Season 1 guys. Unless it's supposed to be villains, but then there's still some notable exclusions.
Give us Dark Worlds, Konami! You can even make Colorless as a skill.
As a massive GX fan i love this product so much
Can we play some Speed duel on stream again?
They could have given us Secret Black Metal Dragon. 😢
24 minute video on the clip channel, why am i laughing so hard 😂
This makes me want more speed lords 😢
I need @15:40 to be it's own clip lmao😅😅
Maybe they could try stuff from the later series that is main deck focused... I can't think of anything but there has to be something...
19:04 it was 8 or lower
They'll give Cloudian modern support and buff the hell out of Vampires, but Amazoness Princess is too much.
Yeah, okay Konami.
I don't know why MBT kept mentioning it, but Pyramid Turtle is not in Speed Duel
Wait, why is chaos trap hole a counter trap? Isnt it a normal trap?
It was always a counter trap. It's not even an actual trap hole card either
I’m surprised we’re not getting another GX mini box. We don’t even have Crystal Beasts in Speed Duel yet
We have CB in the first GX box
@@457Shadowman whoops
To be honest i kinda want to see a pack where all the millium users decks get printed
The old Speed Duel decks had Yugi, Pegasus, Marik, Bakura, and Ishizu, so they're not far off already. They just need to reprint them is all.
Can you use speed duel cards in the tcg? Like are they legal for tournaments?
Speed Duel cards are TCG legal but nothing the other way around. You need cards with the watermark to be legal. So if you're like me and have a pile of these cards from when they came out, you can't use those.
Although tbh you may be able to get away with it of your OTS is desperate enough for players.
Well, the difference is that Battle City has already been way more thoroughly explored in the TCG, and this is easier than making a bunch of new cards for the other arcs.
To be more exact, they aren't free to make new cards for this in general since it's the American branch that does this.
Main TCG/OCG would need to be involved and since Japan doesn't have Speed Duels it's really not a world premier card option.
tin prismatic secret sacred beasts or speed duel secred sacred beasts?
Dark Gaia not being a secret kills me.
Everytime i see a speed duel deck that looks like id enjoy its always missing something i like.
Is there a list of what cards are legal in speed duel somewhere? Im curious about the format but I don't want to buy all the speed duel shit because i have alot of old cards anyway so i could just use those and buy the skill cards
If you want to play in any official setting, Konami's rules say you have to use the actual Speed Duel prints. If you're playing in an environment where this doesn't matter you can use your old cards of course but luckily almost all Speed Duel cards are very cheap anyway. As for the viewing of the cards, Duelingbook lets you filter Speed Duel legal cards at least.
I think it's right to not go to Synchro they could build a new game for slightly later stuff. Agree they should do something different to battle city. I think they should print new cards for people like Duke and Tristan and make mini decks that work for them
man they can do and retrain proper Chess Archfiends now in TCG, with the card placement rules and everything
I NEED this seettt aaaaAAAA
I keep forgetting that actual ass vampires are canon in Yu-Gi-Oh
19:13 oh wait
This can add Ra
Dude is sleeping on vampire genesis
I just want Rush Duels man..
They fucked up First Sarcophagus. How profoundly frustrating with he Skill is so insane
Fuckin pogging out over the chess archfiends. Love the archetype, can’t wait to hate it once I actually play them
We need E hero vanilla Secret Rares (reprint)
Hopefully structure common super polys will drop a dollar or two soon then lol
Even if I wanted to play speed duels, where would I even be able to
I can't fucking believe adding stars together is so complicated they're just not letting 5Ds into the children's card game
I can guarantee Xyz will be in there evntually
Xyz is a very simple mechanic, and the kid friendly nature of zexal works well. I say just skip 5ds and go straight there.
Archfiend's Constipation
Pyramid turtle not in speed duel yet
Why don't we have rush duel yet
There's a lot of potential for DM product, i would buy the SHIT out of a millenium world themed box, or a darkside of dimensions box, or they can also get a little cringe and add stuff from the filler DM arcs.
I also don't think it makes sense to go back to battle City again, its already been done, what else New is there to see?
Fang of critius be good in speed duel. Be so funny
The only target I could possibly see being printed is Tyrant Wing.
Maybe I'm too TCG-brained but I feel like you can Altus + Aerosol just double or even triple handrip someone with the Fog Warning skill turn 1 and the game is just over
As the only MBT fan who watched all of GX Adrian is here because he becomes a villain in season 3, but he plays Exodia when he's a villain not Cloudian so the deck choice does not match up.
is that vocelli pizza i see?
Just do Dungeon Dice Monsters again, that board game was fun af
Double D Boyz 😩😩😩
Pack openings and reactions to pack openings are cool, but what youtubers should be doing if they want to promote the format is actual gameplay imo. ;)
I gave up on speed duels. There's no support for it in any of the locals I go to. I still keep some sealed products in sleeves to play with non-yugioh-playing friends, cause it's a much better nostalgia bait than GOAT, surprisingly. But to actually play it? Nah, it's dead.
They should uncensored yugioh and redub the anime honestly. Wanna see the final arc of gx
Lots of stuff that turns off new players like counting
I dont care about the crotchety yugiboomers, I just want my Yusei skills and deck to turbo out Stardust
Let's goooooo
15:41 isn’t he gay?
Gud.
If you're going to leave a comment about "lol 24 minute 'clip'", just don't
Lol 24 minute clip
@@sammydray5919 lmao!!!!! You did the thing!!!!! That someone asked you not to do!!!!!!!! That's SO FUNNY!!!!!!!!
@@manjackson2772 🤣
This won’t stop me because i play yugioh
I love how Joseph has this conception of himself of understanding the game and being a deck builder etc in reality his best accomplishment is day 2 in a ycs with floo
And the Yugi boomers get pandered to once more. Yay........
CORRECT 🎉
Yeh and XD
They gave Evil Heros, Vampires and Macro everything and gave Dragons, Archfiends and Amazoness nothing 😂🥲