Part of being apolitical comes with the notion of privilege to not have to be political. I’m gay. I sure as hell not only am not going to be voting for the people actively seeking political positions who say I am a terrible person for merely existing and as a result I am going to at least have a kneejerk reaction against the people who voted for such bigoted candidates. I’m going to try to understand but also IT’S FUCKING EXHAUSTING. If I had a nickel every time I had a conversation with someone who absolutely hates the LGBTQ community, I’d have quite a few dollars. Could I have had some kind of heart to heart with most of them? Probably. But I also have my own life to live and I’m not gonna spend every hour of my day trying to stop homophobes from being homophobic, especially when (say it with me kids!) it’s kind of a privilege to not have to have a heart to heart with a bunch of people so you can live a life free of bigotry. Basically, if someone says they voted for Trump, I just give them an ask why and then if I don’t like their answer I’m on my way. “I dunno, seemed fine. Didn’t really like Biden/Hillary” is a perfectly fine answer. Same with “my family said they were gonna so I just figured I would too.” MegaCapitalG said “I believe the economy comes before human rights” and I’m like “no”. Why? Because why is it a goddamn choice to begin with? It’s patently absurd because the notion of better human rights isn’t incompatible with a better economy and it’s bizarre to tolerate that especially when it isn’t like the left hates the economy. Also it comes with a massive lol because both the last couple republicans left office with a recession they sure as hell didn’t start with. They’re not even better for the economy. tl;dr: People saying Trump voters are bad aren’t evil. They just got hurt by too many of them. And also it’s weird how it’s a popular notion that the right is better for the economy
I think something that's important to remember in these kind of things is that everyone has had a different experience in life. There will be a lot of people that voted for Trump because they wanted the wall because they are racist, but there will probably als be a lot of people that voted for Trump because they have had to deal with a lot of Mexican gang crimes ie. And you can say "well that's racist to think all Mexicans would be like that" but it's the same philosophy as that the left has, the experience with Trump supporters were bad so therefore they only get a small chance cause it's tiring to deal with finding out whether it's a rascist Trump supporter or not. People's experience in life has a giant effect on them and their views and while it's not our job to have to listen to everyone's story and try to understand everyone, it's also not our job to judge anyone for it either. P.s none of this was directed to you in particular, your comment just made me think of this.
@@richarddrost5737 There is a big difference between making assumptions about people because of their ethnicity (being Mexican) and making assumptions based on the choices they've made (voting Trump).
You have no idea how happy I got to see this uploaded to the clips channel. The stuff MBT says in this video is actually so good that I ended up using it for a Final in one of my classes. Now I can official have a works cited for MBT on my final
Based take. I go through this line of thought on a near daily-basis. I hear people who claim to believe in equality and solidarity pull the trigger on designating people as out-groups so quickly, and I cannot reconcile the contradiction. My alignment with leftist policies/platforms is because I find them an extension of my beliefs in kindness and equal treatment for all. It has to be consistent, and we win by changing minds. Not shutting them out.
And people get confused when I tell them I just don't use twitter. Unless I'm feeling rather petty. I just. Don't. I have been on the "I just don't use twitter" train for a looooooooooong time. . . Is this. . . What is this!? ITS A I activate my Quick Play Spell Card! Twitter Was Always Bad! Since its inception people have obsessed over this dumb platform with almost No Content in its traditional sense. Followed by the Trap Card! But Harassment Is Proof To My Point! You cannot tell me this platform has done more good than harm. A handful of stories where good does come about wont convince me otherwise when people get bullied to DEATH for no reason at BEST. So unless you can play a decent counter trap, or draw the out. My Point monster will swing for game.
It's for this kind of takes that MBT stands for "Most Based Takes." This is the kind of talk we need to have from time to time but we have waited for big turmoils like the latest ones to happen, unfortunately. Myself included, don't misunderstand me.
Oh boy oh boy, let me introduce you to Brazilian politics, we have Trump 0.5 and basically the same discussions Today we had our presidential elections in Brazil And we have here the same problem, where we vote against a candidate and not in favor of another, Bolsonaro (aka Trump 0.5) lost today because we hate him much more than we love the other candidate
100% this, for some reason some people just kinda forget about individuals and treat people like they're part of some hive mind and that's their excuse for having 0 empathy towards them
I´ve always found amazing how the left and right are so divisive in the US when to me (a foreigner) it looks like the far right vs. the ultra far ""religious"" right
While I do agree with MBT here. About respecting people and shit. I think the bigger problem in this community is political topics coming up more and more. Personally the most political thing I wanna see is debate on should X card be banned. We are already a small community we should keep politics out of it.
@@velphidrow you have a fair point. But when I click on a yugitube video I just wanna see the card game. This game is an escape I have from the "real world". Video Games used to be that until recently.
@@velphidrow I meant I don't have 40 hours to play a game. School keeps me busy. And as long as the gameplay comes first I don't really care about the political motive. A la bioshock
Plus it doesn't really matter about video games since this is a yugioh thing. My point is political stuff just divides ppl especially in a small community.
Really well and concisely put. People need to realize how much we (average working class people and voting base not the politicians) have in common once we realize we are all justifiably angry against a capitalist system on the base of class and having economic struggles and how both dominant political parties are part of the same problem of being controlled by wealthy donors. Voting for presidents isn't the end all be all of our ideologies and it can't be simplified to such
Thanks for this video, i believe the same thing with bipartisan 100% or 0% common ground is just too much fear and ego speaking and I don't believe that we are close in our political thoughs. Again thanks
based take, also the level of purity of action people expect can often lead to an 'on the fence' type to become a tucker watcher. compassion and/or just blocking people you don't like without blasting them is a better strategy for literally everyone involved.
I love this middle of the road take on things and from someone with a left lean too that's become surprisingly rare lately and I respect you for it I do take issue though that you take to the lesser of 2 evils ideology so hard I feel like a 3rd party has a good chance if we actually speak up and advocate for voting for 3rd parties
"Middle of the road takes" when one side wants to and is commiting literal genocide and the other side is just people from minorities tryna live in peace always inherently support the genocidal side
@@azurabbit12 indeed but which side is which might surprise you if you read on I don't support either side in fact (and this isn't stated in my original comment) I align strongest with the libertarian party aka thee party of small government again I'm not a fan of lesser of 2 evils ideology you're still voting in evil it's like saying take your pick Hitler or Stalin actually a look back on history that's actually how Hitler got into power in the first place there was no right wing party in Germany at the time and both people he ran against belonged to the German communist party
@@andrewcovell9692 "which side is which might surprise you" yeah fuck off if you gonna try to tell me that the left is the one commiting genocide and the fascists are the ones tryna live in peace lmao Tha fact that you call yourself a libertarian tells me everything I need to know 💀
@@azurabbit12 what fascist? All I see are socialist and they aren't on the right no on the right I see a less terrifying threat religious zealots who want a theocracy or at least somthing close to it that's not fascism the only political violence I've seen in the last decade have all been leftist hell mr.militrary complex the man who started the forever wars in the east himself bush now calls himself a Democrat if you think that the violent bigots right now are right wingers that shows you don't pay attention and further more more and more poc have been leaving the Democrat party for the Republicans to the point that the Mexicans where blamed by liberals for the republican victory in Florida in 2020 if I where a lesser of 2 evils kind of guy honestly the Republicans have a lot over the democrats rightnow but I'm not personally I don't want the common Cristian concervite in power anymore than I want the typical Democrat in power I want someone in office who will cut taxes reduce inflation and lift restrictions that have been in place to make citizens more reliant on government institutions such as the police (which also need to be dismantled btw) I said my political ideology lines up closest with the libertarian party I did not say I am a libertarian I'm more of an anarchist or maybe a minarchist I kinda switch between the 2 based on how stupid I find other anarchist to be that day as most only seem to want to remove government to establish a government of their own ideological liking i.e. ancom and ancap (though I do side with ancap more since capitalism is going to thrive with or without government anyways)
I'm gonna say it, I don't care that you broke your arm. Edit: In all seriousness, though, I really admire Joseph's interest in unity and the acceptance of differing opinions and I hope for the sake of our nation, or for the sake of decency in general, more people begin to have that perspective, too.
I really like mbt's take. I hope people in general will stop acting like Republicans are all bad and Democrats are all good because let me tell you as a 31-year-old black man that lives in a black community, no the Democrats are not all good and no the Republicans are not all bad.
@@azurabbit12 I thought we were supposed to be against dismissing opinions based on sex and gender. Thanks for letting me know bigotry is cool again. 😎
MBT like 4 months ago: "We need more drama in the Yugioh community. Let's get some beef going. Something we can settle over a best of 3." (or something to that effect) Too bad the last bit got ignored.
Would've loved a duel between the decks that best represent each side, so like Exosisters (catholic democrat lesbians) vs Live Twin (chronically online leftist lesbians)
I can imagine an episode in the anime where some racist starts bullying a minority and then the kids friend duels the racist for the right to not be bullied for being a minority.
Nah, a solid and well-grounded take by a leftist is still a take by a leftist. They get to be heard and even to be correct at times, but they don't get to be "based".
Absolutely love that Joseph can give these supremely well thought out, well articulated points on political theory. And then literally 2 minutes later will be screaming about peepeepoopoo doodoobreath penis yugioh cards.
Okay, but when do they drop a hand trap? Glad to see a serious take I can agree with completely. How you vote isn’t indicative of your soul’s trajectory.
Yeah but in this specific situation Cap kinda proved to be exactly what everyone was talking about at the start, even when HardLeg went super duper kid gloves to explain exactly why people would be upset. He even provided screenshots to further prove the original point in his attempts to absolve himself It was really weird that MBT went to bat for him and doubled/tripled down on it over the course of the entire drama.
I'm about half way through the video and to me it just sounds like MBT is saying that all of our political problems can be solved through the lens of a Japanese children's card game
The Yugioh lens is a way to relay these ideas to his audience in a relatable way. This kind of advice about tolerance and discussion applies to anywhere.
From an outsider's perspective, it's incredible how removed from reality a lot of American political discourse is (at least from what I see online and hear about through others).
For sure. Seeing how wearing a mask got politicized and how the Q movement moved from the US to other countries is crazy.. many other countries have different ties to fascism and the rightwing. While in America due to the 2 party system both dems and reps are economically right the reps more so , their differences are mainly culturally. So seeing this crazy cultural devide which undoubtedly has been formed through mccarthyism and the red scare and more lately Q is really crazy. The way Fox news, OAN and all the rightwing Influencers push people to the right by spreading misinformation is scary to any onlookers from outside the USA..
@@jonathan-6958 I learned something about politics when you are talking face to face people are more willing to sway any direction. I think text on the screen is a lot easier to belittle than an actual live person
"How come I'm not allowed to do a bit about it? Come on!" I thought your quip was hilarious. But it was layered and you know Yugioh players don't read.
I do think corporations played a part in creating the divide we see now, but that it's mainly the algorithm at play. The reason I think companies were involved is that I was an adult during Occupy Wall Street. People across the spectrum were all standing up in opposition to economic inequality and there was a united front to bring down the wealthy. Then towards the end of that identity politics suddenly entered into the equation, and that drove a wedge in the community, fractured it apart, and as the years have gone by people have stopped focusing on economic inequality and started focusing on racial inequality, and it's turned allies into enemies. Once that split happens the algorithm absolutely creates echo chambers that radicalize and create extremism on both sides, but when you go back to the source I wouldn't be shocked at all if companies chose to signal boost the racial economic inequality to take the attention off of themselves.
Yea. It's really strange to me that USA doesn't have party or much of politicians for that matter to represent the economic left. They just have economic right and even more right. Majority of Americans seem to agree that both dominant parties are corrupt but they are either too apathetic to do anything about it or they divide themselves over social policy stances and then fight over which party is worse. And this prevents them from fighting against the corporate oligarghy that has formed to Washington DC over the decades. Both parties are in corporate pockets screwing over the average people.
The distinction between algorithms and corporations is insensible: who wrote (or rather had some one write) these algorithms? Capitalists trying to maximise profits in the media market.
Sorry but that's just inaccurate, first of all what both sides extremism? There's almost no left wing politicians in the mainstream politics of the US, the Democrats are center right if anything. On the other hand the majority of terrorism is right-wing domestic terrorism. This is both sides shit when it's frankly not equal
@@justalurker3489 who is talking about politicians? I'm talking about people being turned against each other. You are a great example though so thanks for that
Legit the first person ive ever seen online suggesting that the "other side" shouldn't be outright destroyed but instead tolerated and perhaps reformed. Kinda wild both sides don't want the other to get better but instead for their enemies to be banished to the shadow realm.
@@marciamakesmusic perhaps, yes. However, are you against the idea that the people on that side can change? And what does that say about your politics? Think about that.
I experienced this firsthand, my dad is super conservative and spends most of his time watching far FAR right news, after I finally moved out I told my family I was trans, I saved telling my dad for last because I was worried that he would get violent when he heard, but the moment I told him, he became my biggest supporter without hesitating for even a second, it was very jarring because until then I had this mindset of "you're either a leftist or a bigot" and suddenly the issue became much more nuanced
This is surprisingly one of the most insightful discussions in any gaming community i've been in. This really applies to more than just Yugioh if I'm being honest.
While I get that leftoids and rightoids exist I still don't think that applies to IRL circles. Trump voters aren't 'Evil' but there is a certain point where you either own up to your parties nonsense or you're a part of a problem.
An issue I've encountered a little too frequently when interacting with fellow left leaning people is the parroting of the belief in restorative and rehabilatory justice on one hand and the absolute refusal to acknowledge it as something that can be applied to the other side. Which leads to these situations more often than not. Also tweeting and making youtube videos is not valid political action :)
@@Cybertech134 let's not pretend the right, especially but not exclusively Christian protestants, also don't have this issue. Preaching empathy while actively ignoring when the types they're "empathetic" towards are explaining why something is harmful. Unironically empathy for me but not for thee is a both sides issue.
@@mutedknght I don't remember the last time I've heard Christians demand empathy like the left does. The clear parallel would be the current left and the religions hyperzealots of the 90s. Same tactics.
@@Cybertech134 I was speaking more on preaching empathy and not actually practicing it. Love the sinner and all that. It's literally doctrine. Also churches still practice a the whole act of them being politically repressed while still being a majority voting block, it was still political suicide to be an atheist less than 8 years ago. I'm sure you've heard the argument of "gay people make us religious type uncomfortable therefore what about our feelings?" Churches with a disdain for the poor being especially prevalent in these cases, and while arguably un-christian, are still in line with and voting with the majority protestant block. I do agree that their voices about that are lessened, but I think that has more to do with the cultural shift left rather than a lack of trying. When the culture shifts right again those voices will become louder.
this is a very interesting talking point I'm not totally in agreement with all that MBT said but I do find his position understandable as someone who lives in a very rural, conservative community, and is trans, that not all Conservative voters are bad people inherently. I think a more important aspect to me and something I've learned in my mid 20s is the self care/mental health aspect of this. A lot of people with this extreme reaction to having to share a locals or a YCS with a Conservative tend to be younger or people who have not learned how to pick and choose their battles. If I got upset and moved to bar every Conservative from everywhere I went or barred myself from sharing the same spaces... I would not be able to live. It's just a needless drain on your mental health and lifestyle that unless your life is 100% in immediate risk, is just not worth it.
I do like this video mostly just because it helped me to get the f*** out of the annoying circle jerk of online leftism. It also helped me realize that while I do not consider myself to be a good person, I do generally care about the well-being of other people and believe that they should have basic rights no matter what they believe. Begrudgingly
I didn’t think such insightful and nuanced takes on americas political and voting infrastructure would come from you. Absolutely underestimated you and although I disagreed on a microcosm of things overall I agree with the macro ideas being addressed. Good shit you’re definitely well experienced and well read
Was despite agreeing with everything you were saying also really annoyed at the start of this video. I realize i just fucking hate america and that annoyance is just more of that. god life since like 2018 has been so fucking obnoxious
The problem is trying to find middle ground with people that would gladly watch a million climate refugees die. Trying to team up to fight climate change is also a beautiful ideal until you realise that the other side not only do not believe in it, they are actively trying to make decisions that move us in the opposite directions of solving it
Its funny how as an outsider I always consider USA as "the land of endless possibilities", except when it comes to politics, then you only have 2 choices, and I don't get it. In the the supermarket you have like 30 kinds of cereals, but when it comes to the most impactful part of your life you only have 2 choices?
It's incredible how the US sold itself as "the land of the free" where the American Dream™ will turn impoverished families from other countries into well-off and wealthy ones, and in turn basically drafted a bunch of people to work in their businesses and factories to make the rich even more rich and those families just slighty better off than their previous state.
I mean there are third parties... but they won't win so voting for them is throwing your vote away and fundamentally casting a vote for whoever wins preemptively. And in many states one of those to actual choices doesn't even matter because the winner of the Electoral College is a far gone conclusion because our democracy was designed to reduce the power of the popular vote. It took a surprisingly long time, but the flaws in the system have come home to roost.
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One of hardlegs tweets was funny to me as it mentioned people being upset with Trif and how he had a responsibility to be informed with his 75 k subscribers. Seemingly ignoring Trif is a Torontonian if he should gain more political awareness municipal provincial and Canadian federal should be prioritized before American. The fact our premier wants to privatize healthcare and the leader of the opposition won’t denounce people who wanted to hang the prime minister until months later when they threatened PP’s wife should be prioritized.
Stop bringing politics in a Japanese childrens card game. Politics is already exhausting and has no place in recreational activities. Im not here to talk about foreign policy while playing a childrens card game. America has a unique system where 2 parties frequency clash and creates divide when most people are moderate.
I'm holding MBT personally responsible as a representative member of the Ghostrick community!
Wait. Are you guys still Alive?
@@ollievirus6695 no that's why they play ghostrick, it's a form of irony
They're still alive because Mr. DuelLogs still playing their outdated deck....
@@mattbaltimore7195 You mean TheDuelLogs, of the TheDuelLogsDuelLogs channel? We need more moon spider vtubers in the Yugioh community.
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Part of being apolitical comes with the notion of privilege to not have to be political. I’m gay. I sure as hell not only am not going to be voting for the people actively seeking political positions who say I am a terrible person for merely existing and as a result I am going to at least have a kneejerk reaction against the people who voted for such bigoted candidates. I’m going to try to understand but also IT’S FUCKING EXHAUSTING. If I had a nickel every time I had a conversation with someone who absolutely hates the LGBTQ community, I’d have quite a few dollars. Could I have had some kind of heart to heart with most of them? Probably. But I also have my own life to live and I’m not gonna spend every hour of my day trying to stop homophobes from being homophobic, especially when (say it with me kids!) it’s kind of a privilege to not have to have a heart to heart with a bunch of people so you can live a life free of bigotry.
Basically, if someone says they voted for Trump, I just give them an ask why and then if I don’t like their answer I’m on my way. “I dunno, seemed fine. Didn’t really like Biden/Hillary” is a perfectly fine answer. Same with “my family said they were gonna so I just figured I would too.” MegaCapitalG said “I believe the economy comes before human rights” and I’m like “no”. Why? Because why is it a goddamn choice to begin with? It’s patently absurd because the notion of better human rights isn’t incompatible with a better economy and it’s bizarre to tolerate that especially when it isn’t like the left hates the economy. Also it comes with a massive lol because both the last couple republicans left office with a recession they sure as hell didn’t start with. They’re not even better for the economy.
tl;dr: People saying Trump voters are bad aren’t evil. They just got hurt by too many of them. And also it’s weird how it’s a popular notion that the right is better for the economy
I think something that's important to remember in these kind of things is that everyone has had a different experience in life. There will be a lot of people that voted for Trump because they wanted the wall because they are racist, but there will probably als be a lot of people that voted for Trump because they have had to deal with a lot of Mexican gang crimes ie. And you can say "well that's racist to think all Mexicans would be like that" but it's the same philosophy as that the left has, the experience with Trump supporters were bad so therefore they only get a small chance cause it's tiring to deal with finding out whether it's a rascist Trump supporter or not.
People's experience in life has a giant effect on them and their views and while it's not our job to have to listen to everyone's story and try to understand everyone, it's also not our job to judge anyone for it either.
P.s none of this was directed to you in particular, your comment just made me think of this.
@@richarddrost5737 There is a big difference between making assumptions about people because of their ethnicity (being Mexican) and making assumptions based on the choices they've made (voting Trump).
@@richarddrost5737you don't choose your race, you choose your ideology and actions.
mbt political youtube channel when
How can one man be so based and so good at suggesting great decks to gage which he can completely ignore
You have no idea how happy I got to see this uploaded to the clips channel. The stuff MBT says in this video is actually so good that I ended up using it for a Final in one of my classes. Now I can official have a works cited for MBT on my final
>Yugioh drama starts with Stevie Blunder saying something dumb
Imagine my shock
8:24 Loves this moment 13:40 "why do you believe the things that i believe?"
MBT really does have some excellent political takes. Thanks for sharing!
Really like to hear your serious takes on something like this. The goofs and gaffs are great but serious Joseph is very appreciated
As a non-american. American politics feel more like sports teams than politics.
I somehow never saw this but MBT is unequivocally based
Based take. I go through this line of thought on a near daily-basis. I hear people who claim to believe in equality and solidarity pull the trigger on designating people as out-groups so quickly, and I cannot reconcile the contradiction. My alignment with leftist policies/platforms is because I find them an extension of my beliefs in kindness and equal treatment for all. It has to be consistent, and we win by changing minds. Not shutting them out.
Look into 10 reasons why you should delete your social media by Jaron Lanier. He has an inside scoop on what the algorithms do
yugioh players try not to start drama over a minute comment challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Wait a second... are you telling me that most of the other side DOESNT want to purge the other one?
And people get confused when I tell them I just don't use twitter. Unless I'm feeling rather petty. I just. Don't. I have been on the "I just don't use twitter" train for a looooooooooong time. . . Is this. . . What is this!? ITS A
I activate my Quick Play Spell Card! Twitter Was Always Bad! Since its inception people have obsessed over this dumb platform with almost No Content in its traditional sense.
Followed by the Trap Card! But Harassment Is Proof To My Point! You cannot tell me this platform has done more good than harm. A handful of stories where good does come about wont convince me otherwise when people get bullied to DEATH for no reason at BEST. So unless you can play a decent counter trap, or draw the out. My Point monster will swing for game.
Hats off to you. We need more people who think like you do!
Oh shit! Another old bay enjoyer
It's for this kind of takes that MBT stands for "Most Based Takes." This is the kind of talk we need to have from time to time but we have waited for big turmoils like the latest ones to happen, unfortunately. Myself included, don't misunderstand me.
"WHERE DO YOU THINK MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS ARE"
Joseph nO
my man is namedropping Contra on stream lol I knew I liked this guy.
I'm a bit late but HardLegs take is perceived better because he looks more like daddy Proudhon.
“How come I’m not allowed to do a bit about it”
The whitest I’ve ever seen MBT
Oh boy oh boy, let me introduce you to Brazilian politics, we have Trump 0.5 and basically the same discussions
Today we had our presidential elections in Brazil
And we have here the same problem, where we vote against a candidate and not in favor of another, Bolsonaro (aka Trump 0.5) lost today because we hate him much more than we love the other candidate
Lula is objectively better than Biden in every sense my guy, it's not even the same comparison
16 minute clip 💀 love MBT
My brain checked out after about 5mins and then started looking for funny comments in twitch chat.
@@Element_Doom MBT Politics W
100% this, for some reason some people just kinda forget about individuals and treat people like they're part of some hive mind and that's their excuse for having 0 empathy towards them
IMO: who you voted for/who you love/who you identify as doesnt mean jack shit
The community hates MBT because he is not Cimo, I rather like MBT and his content and find him rather handsome.
I´ve always found amazing how the left and right are so divisive in the US when to me (a foreigner) it looks like the far right vs. the ultra far ""religious"" right
Feel like there’s not a single country on earth the Democrats would be actually considered far right in ngl.
What a lovely young man
While I do agree with MBT here. About respecting people and shit. I think the bigger problem in this community is political topics coming up more and more. Personally the most political thing I wanna see is debate on should X card be banned. We are already a small community we should keep politics out of it.
But why shouldn't they be allowed to discuss what they want? Why should a yugituber be pidgeonhold into one subject because you don't like it
@@velphidrow you have a fair point. But when I click on a yugitube video I just wanna see the card game. This game is an escape I have from the "real world". Video Games used to be that until recently.
@@the199dirtrider video games have been political for YEARS
@@velphidrow I meant I don't have 40 hours to play a game. School keeps me busy. And as long as the gameplay comes first I don't really care about the political motive. A la bioshock
Plus it doesn't really matter about video games since this is a yugioh thing. My point is political stuff just divides ppl especially in a small community.
well said
Really well and concisely put. People need to realize how much we (average working class people and voting base not the politicians) have in common once we realize we are all justifiably angry against a capitalist system on the base of class and having economic struggles and how both dominant political parties are part of the same problem of being controlled by wealthy donors. Voting for presidents isn't the end all be all of our ideologies and it can't be simplified to such
Blaming it on capitalism already means you're lacking the capacity for common ground.
last time i was this early, being zero-hour gang was cool.
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Based take by MBT. This should be common sense and what everyone should do.
It's cuz Hardleg has a beard and you don't lol
Thanks for this video, i believe the same thing with bipartisan 100% or 0% common ground is just too much fear and ego speaking and I don't believe that we are close in our political thoughs.
Again thanks
based take, also the level of purity of action people expect can often lead to an 'on the fence' type to become a tucker watcher. compassion and/or just blocking people you don't like without blasting them is a better strategy for literally everyone involved.
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I love this middle of the road take on things and from someone with a left lean too that's become surprisingly rare lately and I respect you for it I do take issue though that you take to the lesser of 2 evils ideology so hard I feel like a 3rd party has a good chance if we actually speak up and advocate for voting for 3rd parties
"Middle of the road takes" when one side wants to and is commiting literal genocide and the other side is just people from minorities tryna live in peace always inherently support the genocidal side
@@azurabbit12 indeed but which side is which might surprise you if you read on I don't support either side in fact (and this isn't stated in my original comment) I align strongest with the libertarian party aka thee party of small government again I'm not a fan of lesser of 2 evils ideology you're still voting in evil it's like saying take your pick Hitler or Stalin actually a look back on history that's actually how Hitler got into power in the first place there was no right wing party in Germany at the time and both people he ran against belonged to the German communist party
@@andrewcovell9692 "which side is which might surprise you" yeah fuck off if you gonna try to tell me that the left is the one commiting genocide and the fascists are the ones tryna live in peace lmao
Tha fact that you call yourself a libertarian tells me everything I need to know 💀
@@azurabbit12 what fascist? All I see are socialist and they aren't on the right no on the right I see a less terrifying threat religious zealots who want a theocracy or at least somthing close to it that's not fascism the only political violence I've seen in the last decade have all been leftist hell mr.militrary complex the man who started the forever wars in the east himself bush now calls himself a Democrat if you think that the violent bigots right now are right wingers that shows you don't pay attention and further more more and more poc have been leaving the Democrat party for the Republicans to the point that the Mexicans where blamed by liberals for the republican victory in Florida in 2020 if I where a lesser of 2 evils kind of guy honestly the Republicans have a lot over the democrats rightnow but I'm not personally I don't want the common Cristian concervite in power anymore than I want the typical Democrat in power I want someone in office who will cut taxes reduce inflation and lift restrictions that have been in place to make citizens more reliant on government institutions such as the police (which also need to be dismantled btw) I said my political ideology lines up closest with the libertarian party I did not say I am a libertarian I'm more of an anarchist or maybe a minarchist I kinda switch between the 2 based on how stupid I find other anarchist to be that day as most only seem to want to remove government to establish a government of their own ideological liking i.e. ancom and ancap (though I do side with ancap more since capitalism is going to thrive with or without government anyways)
@@andrewcovell9692 "socialists are less terrifying than right-wing religious zealots"
"I side more with anarchocapitalism"
Yeah you're a walking joke
unfortunately for you, im playing 4 copies of Frog the Jam, meaning your argument is invalid
I'm gonna say it,
I don't care that you broke your arm.
Edit: In all seriousness, though, I really admire Joseph's interest in unity and the acceptance of differing opinions and I hope for the sake of our nation, or for the sake of decency in general, more people begin to have that perspective, too.
MBT 2024. Make America Based Again
Of all the languages, he decided to speak BASED and FACTS
I really like mbt's take. I hope people in general will stop acting like Republicans are all bad and Democrats are all good because let me tell you as a 31-year-old black man that lives in a black community, no the Democrats are not all good and no the Republicans are not all bad.
My issue with cap was him doubling down
smh whatever happened to “good afternoon proletariat” 😢😢😢 MBT (MarxBolshevikTrans) has been couped by the CIA as expected
The one comment " "right wing or left wing" bitch i'm blackwing" in the twitch chat sent me
Sounds like a Jordan Peterson fan
And then you keep looking and see people invalidate MBT's points because he's """"cishet"""" and you remember Twitch commenters suck
I love that so much
@@hppvitor cishet white men when they're told their opinion on problems that don't affect them mean absolutely nothing: 😭😭😭😭😭
@@azurabbit12 I thought we were supposed to be against dismissing opinions based on sex and gender. Thanks for letting me know bigotry is cool again. 😎
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Honestly shocked to hear that MBT is actually just a well adjusted individual but i'm happy to hear that
Who knew
Was also suprised
Socialism sooths and centers the mind. It's twitter that makes you insane.
MBT like 4 months ago: "We need more drama in the Yugioh community. Let's get some beef going. Something we can settle over a best of 3." (or something to that effect)
Too bad the last bit got ignored.
Would've loved a duel between the decks that best represent each side, so like Exosisters (catholic democrat lesbians) vs Live Twin (chronically online leftist lesbians)
He got blocked before he could propose the match
I can imagine an episode in the anime where some racist starts bullying a minority and then the kids friend duels the racist for the right to not be bullied for being a minority.
@@FranzNF Performapal Trump Witch turbo vs Lefty Driver turbo
MBT continues to be the most based content creator. Thank you, man.
Nah, a solid and well-grounded take by a leftist is still a take by a leftist. They get to be heard and even to be correct at times, but they don't get to be "based".
Clinton aid didn't kill himself.
Absolutely love that Joseph can give these supremely well thought out, well articulated points on political theory. And then literally 2 minutes later will be screaming about peepeepoopoo doodoobreath penis yugioh cards.
Joseph: Pinchable waists and Worm Kussy.
Also Joseph: there comes a time when the bourgeoisie...
Expected a funny clip, found a lecture, stayed for the good take.
Whenever I see MBT fix his already well-sitting hair I just can't help but have one word pop into my mind: "puddingcess".
Joseph we dont hate you because of antisemitism, its because you like Neos Alias
Okay, but when do they drop a hand trap? Glad to see a serious take I can agree with completely. How you vote isn’t indicative of your soul’s trajectory.
Activate on Year 4 in the Voting Phase
Yeah but in this specific situation Cap kinda proved to be exactly what everyone was talking about at the start, even when HardLeg went super duper kid gloves to explain exactly why people would be upset. He even provided screenshots to further prove the original point in his attempts to absolve himself
It was really weird that MBT went to bat for him and doubled/tripled down on it over the course of the entire drama.
@@Marqrk you are missing the forest for the trees pal
I'm about half way through the video and to me it just sounds like MBT is saying that all of our political problems can be solved through the lens of a Japanese children's card game
Cardboard for world peace
The Yugioh lens is a way to relay these ideas to his audience in a relatable way. This kind of advice about tolerance and discussion applies to anywhere.
From an outsider's perspective, it's incredible how removed from reality a lot of American political discourse is (at least from what I see online and hear about through others).
Im inside and its true. This blows booty bruh. Its mad annoying tbh.
its all driven by propaganda and money
Bingo. When people start throwing -ism's haphazardly you start reading they're brain dead. Thanks TikTok and Twitter!
For sure. Seeing how wearing a mask got politicized and how the Q movement moved from the US to other countries is crazy.. many other countries have different ties to fascism and the rightwing. While in America due to the 2 party system both dems and reps are economically right the reps more so , their differences are mainly culturally. So seeing this crazy cultural devide which undoubtedly has been formed through mccarthyism and the red scare and more lately Q is really crazy. The way Fox news, OAN and all the rightwing Influencers push people to the right by spreading misinformation is scary to any onlookers from outside the USA..
@@jonathan-6958 I learned something about politics when you are talking face to face people are more willing to sway any direction. I think text on the screen is a lot easier to belittle than an actual live person
I just want to show appreciation for the chatter who said “Are you right wing or left wing? Bitch I’m blackwing”
"How come I'm not allowed to do a bit about it? Come on!"
I thought your quip was hilarious. But it was layered and you know Yugioh players don't read.
The classic if “he says it it’s fine but if I say it it’s a call to hr”
ngl, this really makes me want to play Marvel Snap, this is the best ad I've seen for it.
I actually like playing against people with a different political view than me, it gives me a reason to activate Mystic Mine.
this is praxis
None of this would happen under President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho.
I do think corporations played a part in creating the divide we see now, but that it's mainly the algorithm at play. The reason I think companies were involved is that I was an adult during Occupy Wall Street. People across the spectrum were all standing up in opposition to economic inequality and there was a united front to bring down the wealthy. Then towards the end of that identity politics suddenly entered into the equation, and that drove a wedge in the community, fractured it apart, and as the years have gone by people have stopped focusing on economic inequality and started focusing on racial inequality, and it's turned allies into enemies. Once that split happens the algorithm absolutely creates echo chambers that radicalize and create extremism on both sides, but when you go back to the source I wouldn't be shocked at all if companies chose to signal boost the racial economic inequality to take the attention off of themselves.
Yea. It's really strange to me that USA doesn't have party or much of politicians for that matter to represent the economic left. They just have economic right and even more right. Majority of Americans seem to agree that both dominant parties are corrupt but they are either too apathetic to do anything about it or they divide themselves over social policy stances and then fight over which party is worse. And this prevents them from fighting against the corporate oligarghy that has formed to Washington DC over the decades. Both parties are in corporate pockets screwing over the average people.
The distinction between algorithms and corporations is insensible: who wrote (or rather had some one write) these algorithms? Capitalists trying to maximise profits in the media market.
@@jokuvaan5175 That's cause the left's platform usually relies on everyone ignoring the economics of their theories.
Sorry but that's just inaccurate, first of all what both sides extremism? There's almost no left wing politicians in the mainstream politics of the US, the Democrats are center right if anything. On the other hand the majority of terrorism is right-wing domestic terrorism. This is both sides shit when it's frankly not equal
@@justalurker3489 who is talking about politicians? I'm talking about people being turned against each other. You are a great example though so thanks for that
4:18 Rothschild discovers the rest of the Rothschilds
This is definitely the kind of stream that Marvel Snap wanted to represent their brand on
Well the people that developed it, used to work for blizzard 🙈 Atleast some of them. Make of this what you want.
Now I understand why the rothschilds aborted joseph to the shadow realm, he doesnt want to divide and conquer 😂❤ I appreciate ur attitude 👏
Your openmindedness combined with your humor and knowledge of the game are why i like you and your content so much MBT
Legit the first person ive ever seen online suggesting that the "other side" shouldn't be outright destroyed but instead tolerated and perhaps reformed. Kinda wild both sides don't want the other to get better but instead for their enemies to be banished to the shadow realm.
Some mfers want to be so performative they end up agreeing with Hillary Clinton copium takes. Deplorables OMEGALUL
Because one side is wrong
@@marciamakesmusic perhaps, yes. However, are you against the idea that the people on that side can change? And what does that say about your politics? Think about that.
The MBT "holocaust victim bit" incident of 2022 :TrollDespair:
US American poilitics, from the perspective of someone who has never been to the US, are a joke - and a really bad one.
I experienced this firsthand, my dad is super conservative and spends most of his time watching far FAR right news, after I finally moved out I told my family I was trans, I saved telling my dad for last because I was worried that he would get violent when he heard, but the moment I told him, he became my biggest supporter without hesitating for even a second, it was very jarring because until then I had this mindset of "you're either a leftist or a bigot" and suddenly the issue became much more nuanced
3:00 "'are you left wing or right wing' bitch im blackwing" actually funny mbt viewer
Thank you for posting this, i've read some elses comment here on youtube talking about it, but missed it in the actual video.
Excellent praxis, it leaves me hopeful that others will hear and understand as well.
So many people could not figure out you and Hardleg were making the same point, truly proof that yugioh players do not know how to read.
Intolerance only against intolerance. Otherwise live and let live
This is surprisingly one of the most insightful discussions in any gaming community i've been in. This really applies to more than just Yugioh if I'm being honest.
After you get canceled can I host one of your shows
*sprinkles extra sarcasm on post*
While I get that leftoids and rightoids exist I still don't think that applies to IRL circles. Trump voters aren't 'Evil' but there is a certain point where you either own up to your parties nonsense or you're a part of a problem.
An issue I've encountered a little too frequently when interacting with fellow left leaning people is the parroting of the belief in restorative and rehabilatory justice on one hand and the absolute refusal to acknowledge it as something that can be applied to the other side. Which leads to these situations more often than not.
Also tweeting and making youtube videos is not valid political action :)
Go figure that the side that preaches empathy lacks any of it.
@@Cybertech134 let's not pretend the right, especially but not exclusively Christian protestants, also don't have this issue. Preaching empathy while actively ignoring when the types they're "empathetic" towards are explaining why something is harmful.
Unironically empathy for me but not for thee is a both sides issue.
@@mutedknght I don't remember the last time I've heard Christians demand empathy like the left does. The clear parallel would be the current left and the religions hyperzealots of the 90s. Same tactics.
@@Cybertech134 I was speaking more on preaching empathy and not actually practicing it. Love the sinner and all that. It's literally doctrine.
Also churches still practice a the whole act of them being politically repressed while still being a majority voting block, it was still political suicide to be an atheist less than 8 years ago. I'm sure you've heard the argument of "gay people make us religious type uncomfortable therefore what about our feelings?" Churches with a disdain for the poor being especially prevalent in these cases, and while arguably un-christian, are still in line with and voting with the majority protestant block.
I do agree that their voices about that are lessened, but I think that has more to do with the cultural shift left rather than a lack of trying. When the culture shifts right again those voices will become louder.
"You aren't a communist? Then why are you playing melffies?"
Funny Spanish Dante man, 2020.
Yu-Gi-Oh players really getting schooled in sociopolitical knowledge by the Tendangler. W
this is a very interesting talking point
I'm not totally in agreement with all that MBT said but I do find his position understandable as someone who lives in a very rural, conservative community, and is trans, that not all Conservative voters are bad people inherently.
I think a more important aspect to me and something I've learned in my mid 20s is the self care/mental health aspect of this. A lot of people with this extreme reaction to having to share a locals or a YCS with a Conservative tend to be younger or people who have not learned how to pick and choose their battles. If I got upset and moved to bar every Conservative from everywhere I went or barred myself from sharing the same spaces... I would not be able to live. It's just a needless drain on your mental health and lifestyle that unless your life is 100% in immediate risk, is just not worth it.
I do like this video mostly just because it helped me to get the f*** out of the annoying circle jerk of online leftism. It also helped me realize that while I do not consider myself to be a good person, I do generally care about the well-being of other people and believe that they should have basic rights no matter what they believe. Begrudgingly
MagaCapG
I didn’t think such insightful and nuanced takes on americas political and voting infrastructure would come from you. Absolutely underestimated you and although I disagreed on a microcosm of things overall I agree with the macro ideas being addressed. Good shit you’re definitely well experienced and well read
MBT: 5:38
Literally everyone on Twitter: I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that
Was despite agreeing with everything you were saying also really annoyed at the start of this video. I realize i just fucking hate america and that annoyance is just more of that. god life since like 2018 has been so fucking obnoxious
I'm sorry, I've been on the internet for years, I didn't know you were allowed to have reasonable takes. Can MBT do this?
The problem is trying to find middle ground with people that would gladly watch a million climate refugees die.
Trying to team up to fight climate change is also a beautiful ideal until you realise that the other side not only do not believe in it, they are actively trying to make decisions that move us in the opposite directions of solving it
Its funny how as an outsider I always consider USA as "the land of endless possibilities", except when it comes to politics, then you only have 2 choices, and I don't get it. In the the supermarket you have like 30 kinds of cereals, but when it comes to the most impactful part of your life you only have 2 choices?
You don’t have exactly 2 choices, they tend to more options, but they aren’t as big and agreed upon as the 2 main parties that most people vote for
It's incredible how the US sold itself as "the land of the free" where the American Dream™ will turn impoverished families from other countries into well-off and wealthy ones, and in turn basically drafted a bunch of people to work in their businesses and factories to make the rich even more rich and those families just slighty better off than their previous state.
we actually have zero choices!
I mean there are third parties... but they won't win so voting for them is throwing your vote away and fundamentally casting a vote for whoever wins preemptively. And in many states one of those to actual choices doesn't even matter because the winner of the Electoral College is a far gone conclusion because our democracy was designed to reduce the power of the popular vote.
It took a surprisingly long time, but the flaws in the system have come home to roost.
Do you go to a football game and ask why are there only 2 teams playing, I thought this was the land of endless possibilities?
My wife’s grandfather survived Auschwitz, and my Great Grandmother was a Polish Jew who came here in the 1920’s…
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Bruh what a world we live in where a yugi-tuber is giving me great life lessons
i mean he did go to college
420 views at time of watching this :)
ngl, hardlegs tweets were a lot more clear in their message
Exact same thing, less sass. People just want performative words over meaning.
One of hardlegs tweets was funny to me as it mentioned people being upset with Trif and how he had a responsibility to be informed with his 75 k subscribers. Seemingly ignoring Trif is a Torontonian if he should gain more political awareness municipal provincial and Canadian federal should be prioritized before American. The fact our premier wants to privatize healthcare and the leader of the opposition won’t denounce people who wanted to hang the prime minister until months later when they threatened PP’s wife should be prioritized.
@@U1TR4F0RCE To be fair, smugly looking at American politics is a national Canadian pass time.
Spam "Hardleg has made you" in MBTs Chat.
@@bagorngo can confirm, and then we go on to complain about our own catch 22 politics
“Why do you think I’m in MARYLAND” 😂
It's a pain to realize that you're voting not because u support that person and what they stand for, but because u hate the other party more
Stop bringing politics in a Japanese childrens card game. Politics is already exhausting and has no place in recreational activities. Im not here to talk about foreign policy while playing a childrens card game. America has a unique system where 2 parties frequency clash and creates divide when most people are moderate.