In the theater, the moment the Enterprise blows up, the person sitting behind me cried out the word "no" just as I was thinking it. In the original series, the Enterprise was a "character" that fans really loved. It really felt like a character loss when the ship "died".
When I saw this in the theater you could hear people sobbing all over the theater as the crew stands on the genesis planet and watches the Enterprise burn across the sky. I'd never experienced that at a movie before. Then, when Star Trek 4 starts off replaying the Enterprise blowing up, you could hear people's breath catching as the knife twisted.
Shatner’s performance in the second film was thanks in no small part to the director. Shatner had a tendency to be extremely big and declamatory with his delivery, so the director intentionally had them do 15-20 takes with scenes with him to tire him out so his performance would become more subtle and nuanced, which fit the tone of the film better.
Well, he did train for the stage, and one thing that is often drilled into theatre actors is that you can't just perform for the other actors or the front row; the people in the upper circle paid to see you as well.
Star Trek IV and VI are widely loved. Star Trek V is mostly disliked, but it's going through something of a new wave of appreciation, and it's still worth watching.
I've never really understood all the hate that Star Trek V gets lol. I've always loved it. For me V felt a lot more in line with the series than the others.
Fun fact, the self destruct sequence is a call back to the original series episode “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield” when Kirk, Spock, and Scotty activated the self destruct sequence to prevent the ship from being controlled by an alien. “The Undiscovered Country” is well worth the watch and is on par with “The Wrath of Khan.”
There were a few good moments in Trek 5 "Final Frontier" but overall it was the worst one. I'd still say watch it, just because. Might as well watch 6 of 6 if you're gonna watch 5 of 6! lol
@@mikejankowski6321 Honestly, and it's likely through rosy lenses, but I just really like the original crew and their movies. The first movie was the toughest to watch only beacuse it was so different and kind of clinical, but the rest were just fun for me. 5 may have been considered the worst by many, but I liked it anyway.
Oh I'm posting this comment "before" I watch your reaction. Just your explanation of watching this movie sooner than you planned. The Death of Spock shook all a Star Trek fan and we ALL paid to see this movie when it first came out. It's not the worst of the "odd numbered" Star Trek movies. As your journey goes on...you may start to notice that the "even numbered" one's are more beloved by us SF fans. Thanks in advance for posting this video and reaction!!!
I love this movie; I feel it's criminally underrated, especially by people who glibly say things like, "Even films good, odd ones bad." Star Trek's II - IV are basically a trilogy, with the next one being directed by Nimoy as well, so Part IV is a must see. ST V is unfortunately the worst of all the films, but Part VI is good, and a final farewell to the original cast and characters. The movies after that are all about TNG, so I won't go into my opinions on them here.
I am part of a minor group that thinks that V isn't necessarily better, but it's more entertaining than III. All six original series movies are worth watching though, for the full story.
@@PixelatedH2O I'm going to be purposely vague in an attempt to avoid posting spoilers, but the part of the story in V that was so bad Shatner had to change it or Nimoy and Kelley would have refused to be in the movie is practically offensive to me, especially considering that he did not make similar changes for the rest of the cast (which he likely couldn't even if he wanted to since that would mean rewriting the entire story). I don't begrudge anyone for like V though, or any other movie for that matter.
Historically dismissed as one of the "bad" odd numbered _Trek_ movies, _III_ has aged well. It's a smart, fun heist flick with some genuinely emotional & iconic moments - a moving story about a guy who risks & loses everything to save the one thing he can't live without: his friend. Nimoy originally wanted Edward James Olmos for Kruge (Christopher Lloyd) but was overruled - that casting would've been incredible. Kirstie Alley exited _III_ because Paramount offered her less money than she got for _II._ You're gonna love _Star Trek IV_ - more than a great _Trek_ film, it's one of the best Action/Comedies of the 1980s. A perfect film.
It's worth mentioning that Leonard Nimoy had a parallel career as a still photographer. I believe that is why the sets are photographed in a way that lends credibility to the film, despite the poor production notes in some of the VFX sequences.
I'm pretty sure it's probably already been mentioned in other comments but the Enterprise itself is a character in the Star Trek universe. Its destruction was significant.
The Voyage Home is hands down my favorite Star Trek movie. We get to spend quality time with every one of the crew members and it is very, very funny and super fun!
You absolutely must watch movies 5 and 6. They're the last two with the classic crew, and in my opinion movie 6 might be one of the best of the Classic movies (save for Wrath of Kahn). Please do those two as well! :)
@@heather9857 It has a memorable line, "What does God need with a starship?" But everything prior to that line sucks and everything after that line sucks.
As far as watching additional Star Trek movies, Star Trek #6 "The Undiscovered Country" is my second favorite after #2 Wrath of Khan. I would definitely recommend #6, it the last time the original crew is together.
Same here!!! The one aspect of this movie was, they brought back some old actors with cameos from the old 70's TV show. A nice touch stone to what started it all. Then STTNG started on TV (which I watched and loved back in the day). The way they brought the expanded information/cannon from this movie into that TV show and beyond. That was the magic from an older guy now who played RPG's and even owns the FASA Star Trek RPG. The expansive Universe of Star Trek still amazes me today. Sadly both Star Wars and Star Trek are riddled with social political craps. Gone are the days of just "pure entertainment" vs give us a social morality lesson. I want to "forget about my life" when I watch a movie and escape reality for a couple hours... Just my opinion, and the reason the comic book and movie institutions are failing these days...
What do you think about "Strange New Worlds"? I signed on with Paramount Minus, expecting another Dumpster Fire. It's more like the "Stand By Me" campfire, with hot dogs, marshmallows, and a round of "Row Your Boat."
I was 8 when the show premiered. I grew up with this crew and there was nothing else until Next Generation. All 5 series are dear to me. Star Trek ended with Enterprise.
@@Otokichi786 I've only seen bits on TH-cam. I think they've tried hard to make a good show and there is much they've got right and done well. But I think they still need stronger storylines from what I hear. But it's certainly closer in spirit to TOS than anything that has been made since. And that alone earns great credit with me. Between the dire Discovery and awful Picard, SNW is a ray of hope for Trek.
Christopher Lloyd plays the best Klingon villain. It’s crazy because this is before Back to the Future but after he was in a comedy sitcom called “Taxi” with Danny DeVito.
Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, and Voyage Home always felt to me like 3 acts of one single epic story. Also, Kirstie Alley not returning as Saavik was due to her then agent who effectively sabotaged her by demanding far more money for her involvement than what her star status was worth at the time.
After Wrath brought back Ricardo Montalban from the Original Series as Khan, this one brings back Mark Lenard as Sarek, and he became a fan favorite, even making memorable appearances alongside Patrick Stewart in the Next Generation show. Other name actors include Night Court regular John Larroquette as a Klingon officer and Robocop’s Miguel Ferrer as the Excelsior helmsman.
As a fan since childhood and for so many years, I got more choked up watching the Enterprise die than I did when Spock died. Star Trek 4 definitely worth it and is also directed by Nimoy. It is also the end of a trilogy of sorts. ST5 is the weakest but has its good points and ST6 is well worth it. I have heard different reasons why Kirstie Alley left. One she went to take care of her sick mother but most accounts that it was over her high salary demands. The Next Generation Movies are also worth it. Some more than others with First Contact being the strongest. Great and enjoyable reaction and review Shan, Thanks.
The newer ones are good as well. "Star Trek: Generations", the 7th movie, bridges the gap between the original show and "The Next Generation", and passes the torch quite nicely.
@@jamesalexander5623 Obviously, you grew up in the wrong generation when it comes to the original series and corresponding movies. First Contact seemed silly and forced. I enjoyed the following one where the Enterprise was separated between the bridge and the rest of the ship. Then, crashed into the nearest planet, which was to be destroyed a few moments later. But, most OS movies outdid all of the NG movies.
It'll definitely be worth your time to watch 4, 5, and 6. 4 is charming and funny. 5 is widely considered the worst with original cast, but it has moments and really shows the friendship between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. 6 is a great movie... almost as good as Wrath of Khan, easily the second best film of the series. PS. I've always thought the Bird of Prey was the best looking ship in the history of Star Trek.
The fifth movie might have been the worst of the films with the original cast, but it's still so much better than anything produced without them. They caught lightning in a bottle with that group of actors and all those who followed were merely shadow puppets by comparison.
I love this movie almost as much as part 2 and think it's very under appreciated. There is a lot you would get out of this had you watched the original series. When she talks about 'the burning of his Vulcan blood' that's a thing previously established where Vulcan males must mate every 7 years of their adult life or they will die. And during that time they kind of go crazy with pain and violent urges. Also, the impact of losing this ship - the same one that was in the series (even if prior to its refit) was greater. You would also get a lot more out of McCoy and Spock's love-hate relationship. Mark Leonard returning as Spock's father was a big deal since he played him in the series. And you'd get more out of that too because Spock and Sarek had a contentious relationship as well. The Klingons are always presented as a kind of 2-dimensional villain in the series and even here as you point out. But this is appropriate because this is how the Federation sees them. It isn't until the Next Generation series that they greatly explore the Klingon culture and point of view, and we learn there is so much more to them than this. Lastly, I'm a little confused about your impression of the effects. They were all considered very good for their time. But anyway, thanks for an awesome review. Was looking forward to you seeing this!
I think Uhura really shined in her big scene in this movie. It’s silly, but she really puts that young kid in his place, and gets to show her acting chops and loyalty to the crew.
@@DV80s yes, amazing character moment. She had a few moments like that in the show, but I think her best overall thing in the show was that she was just consistently competent as an officer.
The redhaired woman who watches the damaged Enterprise move into berth at Spacedock is Janice Rand, a former crewmember of the Enterprise (TOS era). She's played by the original actress in a lovely cameo nod to her original role. *Edit:* Spock's confusion at the end is a believable result of having been dead for weeks (or months, I don't recall the exact time table of events), and is not a plot point left alone in the fourth movie.
The whole "steal a ship" part of this movie has always made this one of my favorites. "The Voyage Home" (Star Trek 4) is still the best one the original cast, but this is a close second for me.
The anime "Space Battleship Yamato" (aka Star Blazers), was heavily inspired by Star Trek's popularity in Japan. Interestingly enough, in the 1978 "Comet Empire" second season there is a scene where following the death of a comrade, the crew steals the now obsolete ship against orders in order to confront a new threat, and are pursued by a newer more advanced ship with an antagonistic captain before finally getting away - six years before Star Trek III was released. I always wondered if it was just a remarkable coincidence, or if Yamato managed to return the favour and inspire the franchise it owed so much to. (Also, one of the Enterprise-D's sister ships in TNG was named Yamato before it got blown up)
@@rttoonist4275 I loved that show. When I saw it, or when it came on TV, it was called Star Blazers. I loved that scene when they steal the ship and the Andromeda let’s them go
Many of us fans of the series cried when the Enterprise "died." The way Kirk and Scotty often spoke of her during the show and how devoted they were to her, we came to love the Enterprise as if she were a living character. It hurt the fans more than the loss of David because he was a new character we (and Kirk) just met in the previous movie and we weren't really invested in David. But, then again, there's something to be said for the old girl going out in a literal blaze of glory to save her crew instead of being mothballed. Funny that you would say Kirk was not particularly athletic. In his prime (i.e., the series), Kirk was extremely athletic and Shatner even did some of the fight scenes himself. He studied karate, boxing and fencing and was/is a horseman. Ironically, one of the comparisons when ST: The Next Generation began was how too cerebral and unathletic Captain Picard was. BTW, Kirk doesn't speak Klingon. He was mimicking the Klingon commander and hoping to fool Maltz. And Mark Lenard, the actor playing Spock's father, Sarek, also played him in the series. He has the distinction of having played a Vulcan, a Romulan (in the show) and a Klingon (the captain in the first film).
Back when Star Trek 1 came out, the resurgence was from a once defunked canceled tv show. The only reason it was able to have a comeback was because of the surprise massive hit from Star Wars. So they got their foot back in the door with it. The familiar Star Trek came with Wrath of Khan, which was sort of a sequel to the Space Seed, an episode from the original series
It is a sequel to space seed. But they did try to bring back startrek as a series. But nimoy didnt want to do a series again. So they had it in the works before starwars was released
IV “The Voyage Home” and VI “The Undiscovered Country” are absolutely worth watching. If you’ve seen Next Generation, then “Generations” and “First Contact” are also very worth it.
Shaun list is as follows; ST IV: The Voyage Home ST V: The Final Frontier ST VI: The Undiscovered Country ST VII: Generations ST VIII: First Contact ST IX: Insurrection ST X: Nemesis All well worth your time as you are enjoying the world and the story telling. All very different and offer something special
In the climax of the previous movie, when Spock incapacitated McCoy, then briefly mind melded with him, the scripted line was: "Remember me." It was Nimoy who dropped the "me," & the director kept it. This movie ran with the implications of Spock's altered line, inventing the katra. Katra is the core of memories a Vulcan has: the Vulcan concept of the soul. Kirstie Alley demanded a lot more money to return for this movie. The studio recast Saavik, instead. Robin Curtis was more restrained because that's the direction she was given.
The Vulcan High Priestess T'Lar was played by Judith Anderson, who had played the role of Mrs. Danvers in the Academy Award Best Picture winner of 1940, Rebecca, directed by Alfred Hitchcock.
@@sherigrow6480 If you're talking about T'Pau in the episode, Amok Time, that was Celia Lovsky. I'll bet that they would have cast her in this film, if she hadn't died in 1979. In the late 30s and early 40s, Celia was married to Peter Lorre, a film legend in his own right.
Part IV is my favorite of the classic Trek films. It’s an audience-pleaser, put it that way. You should continue with the Next Generation crew’s movie series. The special effects really are light years (haha) ahead of the classic crew’s movies.
Fun facts: the second in command, of the Klingon ship was played by Night Court's very own John Larroquette. -The alien that McCoy tries to book passage with was a used as the inspiration for the Ferengi. -In the ST3 novelization, Savvak becomes pregnant with Spock's child. -The Klingon commander having a pet was to show that Klingon's do have a sense of compassion. This movie set the standard for so many things that would become common in Star Trek lore.
9:18 - I've never been able to find a confirmation of this (So if someone has, please do share), but I am convinced that this nameless alien was a first attempt at giving life to the Ferengi race (Or was used as inspiration for it), which became a major alien race in Star Trek: The Next Generation, two years after the release of this movie (The Big Ears, even if not as big as the final Ferengi look, the wrinkly and broad forehead, odd speech pattern and the lust for money certainly is not far off the mark!)
I doubt the Ferengi were on the drawing board at that time. We just had a jailbreak copied from Star Wars and now a backwards-talking alien money-grubbing smuggler (echos of both Yoda and Han Solo) tries to make a deal in a cantina. They just hyped up the far-out looks to help tie this all together. And Candice, the original Klingons looked like green humans because Desilu was CHEAP and it was a weekly series without lots of budget (as contrasted with the movies). They did splurge a bit in Journey to Babel, but they had to.
I have often thought similar too though. It might have been many years before Quark, but i could imagine that being him. (Yes i do know Ferengi were in TNG too)
I was 9 years old when this came out. I saw it in the theater. I was bouncing in my seat during the "stealing the Enterprise scene." But when they blew up the Enterprise, i was crying like the kid i was, as though my favorite toy had just been taken from me. That scene still moves me to tears every time i watch this. For fans of the show, blowing up the Enterprise was not just a scene in another movie, but she was a character of her own we had come to know and love for years, and grieve her loss when we see it again.
A highly under appreciated film. Awesome color palette. Love Christopher Lloyd as Krueger. Also Nimoy directed Three Men and A Baby… Also, ILM did the VFX once again. The opening shot of the ship was intended to mimic the look of the series and was kept less realistic and more stylistic, hence the brighter look and limited shadow. They return to the more cinematic look later in the film.
Great reaction. Search For Spock has been somewhat maligned over the years but I've always loved it. There are some pacing issues and I never cared for how hastily they killed off Kirk's son, but the amazing character moments with the crew and Christopher Lloyd's fantastically deranged performance more than make up for it. The sacrifice of the Enterprise and Spock's resurrection on Vulcan are also some of the greatest emotional punches the series ever delivered.
It took me a few watch throughs to appreciate David's death, it's sudden yet underplayed which is what really makes it so perfect, with David being Kirks son your expecting his death to be dramatic but by doing it the way they did they make it more disturbing by taking the drama away and giving you a bit of a darker more realistic feel for how a human would fair against a trained warrior like a Klingon, viewers where expecting the drawn out fight of TOS style. It makes the situation feel more serious and dire.
@@brandonangstman Agreed, it's a dark and hard hitting scene but I still felt like it was a waste of a promising new character and kind of cruel considering Kirk also had to deal with the trauma of losing Spock in the previous film and losing the Enterprise as well. The writers were just piling on him and making him suffer more and more. Thankfully David is referenced in the later films and his death does provide significant character development for Kirk so it wasn't completely gratuitous.
The other films are very much worth watching. 4 completes this loose trilogy. 5 . . . Well, 5 has one or two moments including the best character moment for Bones in the whole series. 6 is a tight, well paced thriller. Generations is a passing of the torch to the Next Generation, and First Contact is a fantastic addition to the series. Beyond that it really does become a matter of whether you want to continue or not. Insurrection is, simply put, an objectively bad film. And Nemesis, while it plays with interesting ideas, fails to really land in any significant way.
I agree with all of this except I actually enjoyed Nemesis. I liked the thematic darkness of the story and Tom Hardy helped to elevate the film. But wow, Insurrection is just terrible.
@@danielallen3454 Yeah, I can agree with that. In my opinion that's about the time Star Trek as a whole ran out of steam. Maybe someday it will be revived in spirit, but probably not any time soon.
It had a voice, it had a temperament, it had emotional attachments, it had friends. Enterprise was a character, and it being blown up like this hit fans just as hard as when Spock died in the previous film.
All of the Star Trek films are worth watching, as they're all very well done (though yes, there are some lesser popular films in the series). Kirstie Alley has experienced quite a few personal problems throughout her career, and without going into details, I believe that's why she was replaced.
The Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock and The Voyage Home (which I all saw in theatre) for a sort of trilogy of sorts as they all follow one another. Wrath of Khan is truly the best but The Voyage Home (which includes time travel) is, I believe, the most rewatchable as well as the funniest. I remember as a kid at the theatre for the Voyage home, the audience would be laughing a lot and there was a standing ovation at the end.
Back to the Future came the year after this so at the time Christopher Lloyd was mostly known for playing Reverend Jim Ignatowski on the TV series Taxi(1978-1983). Another actor who would go onto fame after his appearance in this film is John Larroquette, who played the Maltz(the last surviving Klingon). He would soon be winning multiple Emmy awards for his role as assistant district attorney Dan Fielding on Night Court(1984-1992) and its upcoming sequel series.
You are the gift that keeps giving Shaun. Really like your star trek reactions and hope you keep going to ST Nemesis. Posting this during your intro....hope u enjoyed. My fingers crossed
“The Voyage Home”was my favorite of the old movie series. Especially for the comedic value. As far a Next Generation movies . It’s hands down “First Contact” for many reasons.
You got to watch them all. There is 7 seven movies involving this crew.The last one being Generations ,the torch is passed to the Next Generation crew.
The "dog" is in fact a targ. Klingons not only keep them as pets, they also hunt wild ones and eat them- sometimes raw. I also understand that, since the signing of the Khitomer peace accords, some Federation establishments are now serving Targburgers...
"Star Trek: Generations" and "Star Trek: First Contact" are both very good, and you can probably enjoy them without knowledge of the TV Series, but they ARE companion pieces and play on events from the show.
I highly recommend watching Star Trek: First Contact (w/ the Next Gen. crew) from 1996. It's such a hearty movie that has everything you'd want from a Star Trek film. It's also known as the "Borg movie."
Just a fun bit. The Klingon transporter operator, he's in a couple scenes, Maltz is played by John Larroquette who at the time was best known as Dan Fielding on the NBC sitcom "Night Court". Larroquette is also known as the narrator of the original (and remake) of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre". Also became a cast member of "Boston Legal" an abc legal comedy drama that included many familiar 'Trek ' actors including Shatner and Rene Auberjenois in leading roles.
In the novel of this movie when Kruge and Kirk fought on the surface, Kruge was seriously kicking Kirk’s butt. It was brutal. It was only the ground crumbling under their feet that allowed Kirk to get the upper hand.
One of the Klingons was John Larroquette, of Night Court fame. Also, did you notice Kirk’s old Yeoman, Janice Rand in the Space Station’s Observation Deck? She was the one with red hair shaking her head at the Enterprise’s damage.
You absolutely should do the Next Generation movies. Just like the original cast movies, they had their ups and downs, but they're definitely worth a watch. Yes, it's quite disappointing that Uhura was so underused in the movie. Her role in the novelization was much more exciting. Not only did she stay on Earth to facilitate the escape of the rest of the team, her task was to inform Ambassador Sarek. And she had an exciting chase scene towards the Vulcan embassy.
Spock wasn't meant to be in any further movies beyond WoK, as Nimoy felt he was done with the franchise. Nimoy directing was a lure to bring him back. A little trivia: Maltz the Klingon was played by John Larroquette, best known from the TV show "Night Court."
They purposefully moved away from Kirstie Alleys performance after she talked herself out of the role (or her agent did, either way) because that was informed by a dropped subplot where she was half Romulan. Robin Curtis plays her as a full Vulcan so it's hard to be upset at her because that's what they asked her to do. They even redesigned her besides the permed hair. Look at Alleys eyebrows, they're arched. Of course they gave Romulans up swept brows later anyway, but that was part of it, as well as those minor flashes of emotion you're not gonna get outta Curtis.
If you want some real Saavik shenanigans, I'll try to remember to tell you about pre production on The Undiscovered Country. Such a great plot point they had to scramble off of.
17:49 Fun fact - that Klingon officer is John Laroquette of Night Court fame And no, Kirk doesn't speak Klingon (well he might speak a little) - he's just repeating what he heard the Klingon captain say earlier
😂 I love how the guy who played Spock‘s father mark lenard is depending on the show or the movie a Romulan a Klingon and a Vulcan 😂 he’s the only person in Star Trek history to play three different alien races
There was one more major actor in this film. The last Klingon left alive was John Laroquette, who was HUGE on Night Court at that time. The Bird of Prey is actually a much smaller ship than the Enterprise; if it weren't damaged and uncrewed, it would crush the Klingon.
I met all the OG cast except for Kelly & Jimmy. Boy, you get some fun stories from them in their own element. And Lloyd made a great Klingon! Score is great here. Best uniforms ever. 2, 3, 4 and 6 are the best. It took me decades to get a decent model of a Bird of Prey. I need another.
ST IV is my personal favorite, but Ii, III and IV really is a trilogy so the whole arc is necessary. V is problematic although I still feel a certain warmth about it. It unfortunately had issues with the budget, which is entirely Paramount's fault, and the big climax was entirely whittled down to compensate which is unfortunate because Shatner really wanted to get it done. The Next Generation series of films are very good particularly FIRST CONTACT, which deals with Captain Picard's most sinister enemy.
According to an episode of the original series, Kirk’s predecessor had been commanding the Enterprise for 11 years. Kirk hasn’t seen Khan since the first season fifteen years ago. Plus, Kirk’s predecessor is said to have taken over from the first captain, so the Enterprise is more like 30 years old. However, this movie came out about twenty years after the series. That’s likely where the “twenty years” comes from.
About the next movies in the original line, the 5th part is quite rough but the 6th and final movie with the TOS crew is definitely a must-watch. As far as the Next Generation films go, they're more of a mixed bag, if Star Trek is more and more appealing to you, I'd still recommend a watch, but it's of course up to you. Thanks for the reactions!
13:57 So, you wouldn't have known what Pon Farr actually is. 15:32 Shatner was actually trying to flop in the chair, but they kept the flub in because it fits the pathos of the moment.
Shatner was supposed to collapse into the command chair but he missed & hit the floor instead, all while staying in character. Nimoy liked it so much that he used that take
Omg. I’ve been watching you since beginning! 🤓😁😎 I’m huge Star Wars fan. But I think Star Trek edges out a smidge. For reasons I think only Star Trek fans can understand. I am so happy to watch your reactions to Star Trek OG! And how much you have already loved them! Especially the core values of the story and characters. Even the Enterprise, a true character. I CAN NOT WAIT till you see ST IV The Voyage Home! Omg! That one is amazing. True core love. It means a lot to me cause my mom who passed. We loved it. And the places that were filmed, very personal and loved. I love watching your reactions so much!!! True film lover! Btw if you can watch some crucial episodes of The Next Generation before you watch the TNG Star Trek films will be greatly appreciated and help you to develop deep and understand some critical and truly great points. Thank you so much for your great amazing reactions! Seriously you’re part of the greatest reactors, so well done!!!❤️👍🤌
This was the one I remembered the most as a kid, because I grew up watching it on VHS when we didn't have the other movies in the franchise. So this one always holds a special place for me.
Trivia: Frank Welker (voice of Megatron, Scooby Doo, and a gazzillion others) voiced Spocks screams When Megatron was almost killed in Transformers: The Movie (animated) Leonard Nimoy took over the voice when Megatron was rebuilt as Galvatron.
I would highly recommend watching through the second Next Generation film, but to get the most out of them, I would be sure to watch the following Next Generation episodes: 1) Q Who 2) The Best of Both Worlds, Pts. I & II 3) Family These will give you the character insight you need for both the first two Next Generation films.
fun fact star trek III is the first time the iconic "klingon bird of prey" is shown on screen previous times the "bird of prey" was a romulan vessel....watch all of the movies; they are good even star trek 5 which, as i call it "is the movie paramount didn't want to make" edited: the kilngon who says "i do not deserve to live" is john laraquette(or is it laroquette) a.k.a. dan feilding on 'night court'
From what we will eventually learn about Klingon history, culture and politics from TNG, DS9, and Voyager, Kruge really isn't a villain, but an antagonist. From the Klingon perspective, he's actually pretty heroic, sacrificing everything to defend his empire against what he believed was an illegal Federation super weapon. It's actually pretty tragic that circumstances pitted Kruge and Kirk against one another. If they had been born eighty years later, they very well might have fought alongside each other during the Dominion War - and it would have been glorious...
In the theater, the moment the Enterprise blows up, the person sitting behind me cried out the word "no" just as I was thinking it.
In the original series, the Enterprise was a "character" that fans really loved.
It really felt like a character loss when the ship "died".
In the theater I saw it in, the audience erupted in cheers when Kirk kicked Kruge off the cliff.
Had the same feeling when the Enterprise D got destroyed.
@@helloweener2007 I was a DS9 fan, so the loss of the "D" didn't hit me as hard as it did other fans in the theater.
When I saw this in the theater you could hear people sobbing all over the theater as the crew stands on the genesis planet and watches the Enterprise burn across the sky. I'd never experienced that at a movie before.
Then, when Star Trek 4 starts off replaying the Enterprise blowing up, you could hear people's breath catching as the knife twisted.
@@liljenborg2517 Yep. Same thing I heard in the theater as well. Really emotional 😭
Shatner’s performance in the second film was thanks in no small part to the director. Shatner had a tendency to be extremely big and declamatory with his delivery, so the director intentionally had them do 15-20 takes with scenes with him to tire him out so his performance would become more subtle and nuanced, which fit the tone of the film better.
Well, he did train for the stage, and one thing that is often drilled into theatre actors is that you can't just perform for the other actors or the front row; the people in the upper circle paid to see you as well.
Note to the galley: Roman Ale will no longer be served at diplomatic functions. - James Tiberius Kirk
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t I’m an opera singer, trust me, I know ;)
Star Trek IV and VI are widely loved. Star Trek V is mostly disliked, but it's going through something of a new wave of appreciation, and it's still worth watching.
I've never really understood all the hate that Star Trek V gets lol. I've always loved it. For me V felt a lot more in line with the series than the others.
5's biggest let down was the fact that ILM weren't available to do the effects.
It's been a long time since I've seen V, but I (vaguely) remember it as being not that bad: more Star Trekky and fun to watch than I.
Nah, it’s still terrible. It’s ok, they redeemed themselves with 6.
Is it really going through a new wave of appreciation, and why? It's still as bad now as it was when it came out.
Fun fact, the self destruct sequence is a call back to the original series episode “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield” when Kirk, Spock, and Scotty activated the self destruct sequence to prevent the ship from being controlled by an alien.
“The Undiscovered Country” is well worth the watch and is on par with “The Wrath of Khan.”
There were a few good moments in Trek 5 "Final Frontier" but overall it was the worst one. I'd still say watch it, just because. Might as well watch 6 of 6 if you're gonna watch 5 of 6! lol
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@@Dracounguis 6-2-4-3-1-5. But I agree that 5 is worth watching both as part of the entire set and because it has some worthy moments.
@@mikejankowski6321 Honestly, and it's likely through rosy lenses, but I just really like the original crew and their movies. The first movie was the toughest to watch only beacuse it was so different and kind of clinical, but the rest were just fun for me. 5 may have been considered the worst by many, but I liked it anyway.
@@MST3Killa On the other hand, if you saw TNG (the series) first, as I did, and then TMP, you'll feel much more "at home" than in TWOK....
Oh I'm posting this comment "before" I watch your reaction. Just your explanation of watching this movie sooner than you planned. The Death of Spock shook all a Star Trek fan and we ALL paid to see this movie when it first came out. It's not the worst of the "odd numbered" Star Trek movies. As your journey goes on...you may start to notice that the "even numbered" one's are more beloved by us SF fans. Thanks in advance for posting this video and reaction!!!
I love this movie; I feel it's criminally underrated, especially by people who glibly say things like, "Even films good, odd ones bad." Star Trek's II - IV are basically a trilogy, with the next one being directed by Nimoy as well, so Part IV is a must see. ST V is unfortunately the worst of all the films, but Part VI is good, and a final farewell to the original cast and characters. The movies after that are all about TNG, so I won't go into my opinions on them here.
I remember the critics called it, Star Trek III The Search for Plot.
@@Lethgar_Smith me too 😂
I am part of a minor group that thinks that V isn't necessarily better, but it's more entertaining than III. All six original series movies are worth watching though, for the full story.
@@PixelatedH2O I'm going to be purposely vague in an attempt to avoid posting spoilers, but the part of the story in V that was so bad Shatner had to change it or Nimoy and Kelley would have refused to be in the movie is practically offensive to me, especially considering that he did not make similar changes for the rest of the cast (which he likely couldn't even if he wanted to since that would mean rewriting the entire story). I don't begrudge anyone for like V though, or any other movie for that matter.
@@Asher8328 I think I know what you're saying but I'm not entirely sure. I'm not sure what could be offensive about what I'm thinking though.
There is a fifth and sixth in the original Star Trek crew. Both were interesting, but the sixth was a favorite for me. I LOVED the story!
Historically dismissed as one of the "bad" odd numbered _Trek_ movies, _III_ has aged well. It's a smart, fun heist flick with some genuinely emotional & iconic moments - a moving story about a guy who risks & loses everything to save the one thing he can't live without: his friend.
Nimoy originally wanted Edward James Olmos for Kruge (Christopher Lloyd) but was overruled - that casting would've been incredible. Kirstie Alley exited _III_ because Paramount offered her less money than she got for _II._
You're gonna love _Star Trek IV_ - more than a great _Trek_ film, it's one of the best Action/Comedies of the 1980s. A perfect film.
Could imagine Olmos as Kruge:
(turns to his first officer) "Do your job!"
Beware, many colorful metaphors.
3 is underrated and instantly nullifies the idea of odd number films being not good. That’s a real disrespect of nimoy and the cast’s excellent work.
I concur about 4
It's worth mentioning that Leonard Nimoy had a parallel career as a still photographer. I believe that is why the sets are photographed in a way that lends credibility to the film, despite the poor production notes in some of the VFX sequences.
I'm pretty sure it's probably already been mentioned in other comments but the Enterprise itself is a character in the Star Trek universe. Its destruction was significant.
As a kid this was my favorite one to watch. The fight between the Bird of Prey and the Enterprise I recreated while playing more times than I count.
I hope You watch the other STAR TREK movies too! 🖖😊
The Voyage Home is hands down my favorite Star Trek movie. We get to spend quality time with every one of the crew members and it is very, very funny and super fun!
Plus, Greenpeace got a boost out of "Star Trek IV: Save The Whales," too.:)
It’s thanks to The Voyage Home’s box office success that we got The Next Generation in the first place.
You absolutely must watch movies 5 and 6. They're the last two with the classic crew, and in my opinion movie 6 might be one of the best of the Classic movies (save for Wrath of Kahn). Please do those two as well! :)
5 blows
Skip 5 but 6 is excellent.
5 is the worst
5 is silly, but there are still some good parts. 6 is great and the musical score is killer.
@@heather9857 It has a memorable line, "What does God need with a starship?" But everything prior to that line sucks and everything after that line sucks.
As far as watching additional Star Trek movies, Star Trek #6 "The Undiscovered Country" is my second favorite after #2 Wrath of Khan.
I would definitely recommend #6, it the last time the original crew is together.
Nicholas Meyer directed both.
Can't wait for more "Star Trek" movie reactions! 👍🖖
Same here!!! The one aspect of this movie was, they brought back some old actors with cameos from the old 70's TV show. A nice touch stone to what started it all. Then STTNG started on TV (which I watched and loved back in the day). The way they brought the expanded information/cannon from this movie into that TV show and beyond. That was the magic from an older guy now who played RPG's and even owns the FASA Star Trek RPG. The expansive Universe of Star Trek still amazes me today. Sadly both Star Wars and Star Trek are riddled with social political craps. Gone are the days of just "pure entertainment" vs give us a social morality lesson. I want to "forget about my life" when I watch a movie and escape reality for a couple hours... Just my opinion, and the reason the comic book and movie institutions are failing these days...
It doesn't matter how many new crews or Treks they make. How many new actors fill these roles. This will always be my cast and my crew. ☺☺
What do you think about "Strange New Worlds"? I signed on with Paramount Minus, expecting another Dumpster Fire. It's more like the "Stand By Me" campfire, with hot dogs, marshmallows, and a round of "Row Your Boat."
I was 8 when the show premiered. I grew up with this crew and there was nothing else until Next Generation. All 5 series are dear to me. Star Trek ended with Enterprise.
@@Otokichi786 I've only seen bits on TH-cam. I think they've tried hard to make a good show and there is much they've got right and done well. But I think they still need stronger storylines from what I hear.
But it's certainly closer in spirit to TOS than anything that has been made since. And that alone earns great credit with me.
Between the dire Discovery and awful Picard, SNW is a ray of hope for Trek.
Shane should binge watch the original Star Trek series from the 1960's. It's great imo.
I’m so happy you are getting into the Star Trek universe! I’ve seen all of them with my dad. He raised me on Sci-Fi and I am grateful.
Christopher Lloyd plays the best Klingon villain. It’s crazy because this is before Back to the Future but after he was in a comedy sitcom called “Taxi” with Danny DeVito.
Jim, the stoned cabdriver
You are lucky, many of us had to wait two years to see how it worked out 😅🙈
You can see how nimoy cared in his direction to give everyone on the cast a chance to shine. He was generous with his co-workers and friends
Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, and Voyage Home always felt to me like 3 acts of one single epic story. Also, Kirstie Alley not returning as Saavik was due to her then agent who effectively sabotaged her by demanding far more money for her involvement than what her star status was worth at the time.
After Wrath brought back Ricardo Montalban from the Original Series as Khan, this one brings back Mark Lenard as Sarek, and he became a fan favorite, even making memorable appearances alongside Patrick Stewart in the Next Generation show.
Other name actors include Night Court regular John Larroquette as a Klingon officer and Robocop’s Miguel Ferrer as the Excelsior helmsman.
As a fan since childhood and for so many years, I got more choked up watching the Enterprise die than I did when Spock died. Star Trek 4 definitely worth it and is also directed by Nimoy. It is also the end of a trilogy of sorts. ST5 is the weakest but has its good points and ST6 is well worth it. I have heard different reasons why Kirstie Alley left. One she went to take care of her sick mother but most accounts that it was over her high salary demands. The Next Generation Movies are also worth it. Some more than others with First Contact being the strongest. Great and enjoyable reaction and review Shan, Thanks.
The newer ones are good as well. "Star Trek: Generations", the 7th movie, bridges the gap between the original show and "The Next Generation", and passes the torch quite nicely.
I think First Contact is the Best Star Trek Film of all!
@@jamesalexander5623 Obviously, you grew up in the wrong generation when it comes to the original series and corresponding movies. First Contact seemed silly and forced. I enjoyed the following one where the Enterprise was separated between the bridge and the rest of the ship. Then, crashed into the nearest planet, which was to be destroyed a few moments later. But, most OS movies outdid all of the NG movies.
@@jjkhawaiian first contact is a dumb action movie. totally out of character for tng.
Nope. The TNG movies all suck.
It'll definitely be worth your time to watch 4, 5, and 6. 4 is charming and funny. 5 is widely considered the worst with original cast, but it has moments and really shows the friendship between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. 6 is a great movie... almost as good as Wrath of Khan, easily the second best film of the series.
PS. I've always thought the Bird of Prey was the best looking ship in the history of Star Trek.
The fifth movie might have been the worst of the films with the original cast, but it's still so much better than anything produced without them. They caught lightning in a bottle with that group of actors and all those who followed were merely shadow puppets by comparison.
Agreed on the Bird of Prey! I used to draw those in my school books growing up...
I love this movie almost as much as part 2 and think it's very under appreciated. There is a lot you would get out of this had you watched the original series. When she talks about 'the burning of his Vulcan blood' that's a thing previously established where Vulcan males must mate every 7 years of their adult life or they will die. And during that time they kind of go crazy with pain and violent urges. Also, the impact of losing this ship - the same one that was in the series (even if prior to its refit) was greater. You would also get a lot more out of McCoy and Spock's love-hate relationship. Mark Leonard returning as Spock's father was a big deal since he played him in the series. And you'd get more out of that too because Spock and Sarek had a contentious relationship as well. The Klingons are always presented as a kind of 2-dimensional villain in the series and even here as you point out. But this is appropriate because this is how the Federation sees them. It isn't until the Next Generation series that they greatly explore the Klingon culture and point of view, and we learn there is so much more to them than this. Lastly, I'm a little confused about your impression of the effects. They were all considered very good for their time. But anyway, thanks for an awesome review. Was looking forward to you seeing this!
I agree . Their was nothing wrong with the effects smh
I think Uhura really shined in her big scene in this movie. It’s silly, but she really puts that young kid in his place, and gets to show her acting chops and loyalty to the crew.
@@DV80s yes, amazing character moment. She had a few moments like that in the show, but I think her best overall thing in the show was that she was just consistently competent as an officer.
The redhaired woman who watches the damaged Enterprise move into berth at Spacedock is Janice Rand, a former crewmember of the Enterprise (TOS era). She's played by the original actress in a lovely cameo nod to her original role.
*Edit:* Spock's confusion at the end is a believable result of having been dead for weeks (or months, I don't recall the exact time table of events), and is not a plot point left alone in the fourth movie.
The whole "steal a ship" part of this movie has always made this one of my favorites. "The Voyage Home" (Star Trek 4) is still the best one the original cast, but this is a close second for me.
The anime "Space Battleship Yamato" (aka Star Blazers), was heavily inspired by Star Trek's popularity in Japan. Interestingly enough, in the 1978 "Comet Empire" second season there is a scene where following the death of a comrade, the crew steals the now obsolete ship against orders in order to confront a new threat, and are pursued by a newer more advanced ship with an antagonistic captain before finally getting away - six years before Star Trek III was released. I always wondered if it was just a remarkable coincidence, or if Yamato managed to return the favour and inspire the franchise it owed so much to.
(Also, one of the Enterprise-D's sister ships in TNG was named Yamato before it got blown up)
@@rttoonist4275 I loved that show. When I saw it, or when it came on TV, it was called Star Blazers. I loved that scene when they steal the ship and the Andromeda let’s them go
*Definately* watch all the other Movies. I can't say they are all on the same level, but they all have something worth watching.
I’m been looking forward to this one coming all week
Many of us fans of the series cried when the Enterprise "died." The way Kirk and Scotty often spoke of her during the show and how devoted they were to her, we came to love the Enterprise as if she were a living character. It hurt the fans more than the loss of David because he was a new character we (and Kirk) just met in the previous movie and we weren't really invested in David. But, then again, there's something to be said for the old girl going out in a literal blaze of glory to save her crew instead of being mothballed.
Funny that you would say Kirk was not particularly athletic. In his prime (i.e., the series), Kirk was extremely athletic and Shatner even did some of the fight scenes himself. He studied karate, boxing and fencing and was/is a horseman. Ironically, one of the comparisons when ST: The Next Generation began was how too cerebral and unathletic Captain Picard was.
BTW, Kirk doesn't speak Klingon. He was mimicking the Klingon commander and hoping to fool Maltz. And Mark Lenard, the actor playing Spock's father, Sarek, also played him in the series. He has the distinction of having played a Vulcan, a Romulan (in the show) and a Klingon (the captain in the first film).
Back when Star Trek 1 came out, the resurgence was from a once defunked canceled tv show. The only reason it was able to have a comeback was because of the surprise massive hit from Star Wars. So they got their foot back in the door with it. The familiar Star Trek came with Wrath of Khan, which was sort of a sequel to the Space Seed, an episode from the original series
It is a sequel to space seed. But they did try to bring back startrek as a series. But nimoy didnt want to do a series again. So they had it in the works before starwars was released
He saw ST 2 the week before this one.
IV “The Voyage Home” and VI “The Undiscovered Country” are absolutely worth watching. If you’ve seen Next Generation, then “Generations” and “First Contact” are also very worth it.
It's a great sci-fi trilogy in the middle of a flurry of okay Trek films. 2,3 and 4.
Shaun list is as follows;
ST IV: The Voyage Home
ST V: The Final Frontier
ST VI: The Undiscovered Country
ST VII: Generations
ST VIII: First Contact
ST IX: Insurrection
ST X: Nemesis
All well worth your time as you are enjoying the world and the story telling. All very different and offer something special
Thank you Shan for your reviews. Yes, please continue the series and include the Next Generation films, Patrick Stewart is wonderful.
2, 3 and 4 are a perfect little trilogy. I'm not even a Trek fan but i love those three.
In the climax of the previous movie, when Spock incapacitated McCoy, then briefly mind melded with him, the scripted line was: "Remember me."
It was Nimoy who dropped the "me," & the director kept it. This movie ran with the implications of Spock's altered line, inventing the katra. Katra is the core of memories a Vulcan has: the Vulcan concept of the soul.
Kirstie Alley demanded a lot more money to return for this movie. The studio recast Saavik, instead.
Robin Curtis was more restrained because that's the direction she was given.
If I remember correctly, the shot of the burning Enterprise falling was simply a piece of burning steel wool slung on a wire for the arcing movement.
The Vulcan High Priestess T'Lar was played by Judith Anderson, who had played the role of Mrs. Danvers in the Academy Award Best Picture winner of 1940, Rebecca, directed by Alfred Hitchcock.
Pretty sure she had played that role in the TV series as well. But I'm willing to be corrected
@@sherigrow6480 If you're talking about T'Pau in the episode, Amok Time, that was Celia Lovsky. I'll bet that they would have cast her in this film, if she hadn't died in 1979. In the late 30s and early 40s, Celia was married to Peter Lorre, a film legend in his own right.
Part IV is my favorite of the classic Trek films. It’s an audience-pleaser, put it that way.
You should continue with the Next Generation crew’s movie series.
The special effects really are light years (haha) ahead of the classic crew’s movies.
Fun facts: the second in command, of the Klingon ship was played by Night Court's very own John Larroquette.
-The alien that McCoy tries to book passage with was a used as the inspiration for the Ferengi.
-In the ST3 novelization, Savvak becomes pregnant with Spock's child.
-The Klingon commander having a pet was to show that Klingon's do have a sense of compassion.
This movie set the standard for so many things that would become common in Star Trek lore.
9:18 - I've never been able to find a confirmation of this (So if someone has, please do share), but I am convinced that this nameless alien was a first attempt at giving life to the Ferengi race (Or was used as inspiration for it), which became a major alien race in Star Trek: The Next Generation, two years after the release of this movie (The Big Ears, even if not as big as the final Ferengi look, the wrinkly and broad forehead, odd speech pattern and the lust for money certainly is not far off the mark!)
Yeah, that makes sense. Remember how Klingons looked in the original series?
Yeah I always thought that also
It's not far off the mark... but. No
I doubt the Ferengi were on the drawing board at that time. We just had a jailbreak copied from Star Wars and now a backwards-talking alien money-grubbing smuggler (echos of both Yoda and Han Solo) tries to make a deal in a cantina. They just hyped up the far-out looks to help tie this all together. And Candice, the original Klingons looked like green humans because Desilu was CHEAP and it was a weekly series without lots of budget (as contrasted with the movies). They did splurge a bit in Journey to Babel, but they had to.
I have often thought similar too though. It might have been many years before Quark, but i could imagine that being him. (Yes i do know Ferengi were in TNG too)
I was 9 years old when this came out. I saw it in the theater. I was bouncing in my seat during the "stealing the Enterprise scene." But when they blew up the Enterprise, i was crying like the kid i was, as though my favorite toy had just been taken from me. That scene still moves me to tears every time i watch this. For fans of the show, blowing up the Enterprise was not just a scene in another movie, but she was a character of her own we had come to know and love for years, and grieve her loss when we see it again.
A highly under appreciated film. Awesome color palette. Love Christopher Lloyd as Krueger. Also Nimoy directed Three Men and A Baby… Also, ILM did the VFX once again. The opening shot of the ship was intended to mimic the look of the series and was kept less realistic and more stylistic, hence the brighter look and limited shadow. They return to the more cinematic look later in the film.
In my opinion all the movies are worth watching but then again I've been watching every series since the early 80s.
The Klingon captured near the end when they escape Genesis was John Larroquette from the tv show "Night Court"
Great reaction. Search For Spock has been somewhat maligned over the years but I've always loved it. There are some pacing issues and I never cared for how hastily they killed off Kirk's son, but the amazing character moments with the crew and Christopher Lloyd's fantastically deranged performance more than make up for it. The sacrifice of the Enterprise and Spock's resurrection on Vulcan are also some of the greatest emotional punches the series ever delivered.
It took me a few watch throughs to appreciate David's death, it's sudden yet underplayed which is what really makes it so perfect, with David being Kirks son your expecting his death to be dramatic but by doing it the way they did they make it more disturbing by taking the drama away and giving you a bit of a darker more realistic feel for how a human would fair against a trained warrior like a Klingon, viewers where expecting the drawn out fight of TOS style. It makes the situation feel more serious and dire.
@@brandonangstman Agreed, it's a dark and hard hitting scene but I still felt like it was a waste of a promising new character and kind of cruel considering Kirk also had to deal with the trauma of losing Spock in the previous film and losing the Enterprise as well. The writers were just piling on him and making him suffer more and more. Thankfully David is referenced in the later films and his death does provide significant character development for Kirk so it wasn't completely gratuitous.
The other films are very much worth watching. 4 completes this loose trilogy. 5 . . . Well, 5 has one or two moments including the best character moment for Bones in the whole series. 6 is a tight, well paced thriller. Generations is a passing of the torch to the Next Generation, and First Contact is a fantastic addition to the series. Beyond that it really does become a matter of whether you want to continue or not. Insurrection is, simply put, an objectively bad film. And Nemesis, while it plays with interesting ideas, fails to really land in any significant way.
I agree with all of this except I actually enjoyed Nemesis. I liked the thematic darkness of the story and Tom Hardy helped to elevate the film. But wow, Insurrection is just terrible.
@@warlockEd73 I enjoyed Nemesis. For the most part, but it really did suffer from feeling like TNG was running out of steam.
@@danielallen3454 Yeah, I can agree with that. In my opinion that's about the time Star Trek as a whole ran out of steam. Maybe someday it will be revived in spirit, but probably not any time soon.
"Wrath of Khan", "Search For Spock", and "Voyage Home" are considered Star Trek's Trilogy. The stories are connected...
It had a voice, it had a temperament, it had emotional attachments, it had friends.
Enterprise was a character, and it being blown up like this hit fans just as hard as when Spock died in the previous film.
The Klingon Battle music you hear in the movie was reused in ALIENS, and prior to that it was used in WOLFEN and Star Trek 2.
All of the Star Trek films are worth watching, as they're all very well done (though yes, there are some lesser popular films in the series).
Kirstie Alley has experienced quite a few personal problems throughout her career, and without going into details, I believe that's why she was replaced.
The destruction of the Enterprise was very emotional for fans, who had loved that ship for 17 years.
The Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock and The Voyage Home (which I all saw in theatre) for a sort of trilogy of sorts as they all follow one another.
Wrath of Khan is truly the best but The Voyage Home (which includes time travel) is, I believe, the most rewatchable as well as the funniest.
I remember as a kid at the theatre for the Voyage home, the audience would be laughing a lot and there was a standing ovation at the end.
Back to the Future came the year after this so at the time Christopher Lloyd was mostly known for playing Reverend Jim Ignatowski on the TV series Taxi(1978-1983). Another actor who would go onto fame after his appearance in this film is John Larroquette, who played the Maltz(the last surviving Klingon). He would soon be winning multiple Emmy awards for his role as assistant district attorney Dan Fielding on Night Court(1984-1992) and its upcoming sequel series.
You are the gift that keeps giving Shaun. Really like your star trek reactions and hope you keep going to ST Nemesis. Posting this during your intro....hope u enjoyed. My fingers crossed
Kirk doesn't speak Klingon; he heard Kruge say it.
Oh man, your face when they killed David !
“The Voyage Home”was my favorite of the old movie series. Especially for the comedic value.
As far a Next Generation movies . It’s hands down “First Contact” for many reasons.
You got to watch them all.
There is 7 seven movies involving this crew.The last one being Generations ,the torch is passed to the Next Generation crew.
The "dog" is in fact a targ. Klingons not only keep them as pets, they also hunt wild ones and eat them- sometimes raw.
I also understand that, since the signing of the Khitomer peace accords, some Federation establishments are now serving Targburgers...
Did anyone notice that Maltz, the "I don't deserve to live!" Klingon, was played by John Larroquette, Dan Fielding from Night Court?
I've been watching this movie for more than thirty years, and only now does Saavik's choice to call Kruge "my Lord" stand out to me.
I always thought this was underrated. It’s definitely the best of the odd numbered movies.
"Star Trek: Generations" and "Star Trek: First Contact" are both very good, and you can probably enjoy them without knowledge of the TV Series, but they ARE companion pieces and play on events from the show.
My favorite of the Next Generation crew is "First Contact". Very enjoyable and you get some backstory on Earth and Vulcan.
Hey Shan, the hand motions that Saavik and Spock were doing was how Vulcans show affection towards each other
I highly recommend watching Star Trek: First Contact (w/ the Next Gen. crew) from 1996. It's such a hearty movie that has everything you'd want from a Star Trek film. It's also known as the "Borg movie."
Just a fun bit. The Klingon transporter operator, he's in a couple scenes, Maltz is played by John Larroquette who at the time was best known as Dan Fielding on the NBC sitcom "Night Court". Larroquette is also known as the narrator of the original (and remake) of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre". Also became a cast member of "Boston Legal" an abc legal comedy drama that included many familiar 'Trek ' actors including Shatner and Rene Auberjenois in leading roles.
In the novel of this movie when Kruge and Kirk fought on the surface, Kruge was seriously kicking Kirk’s butt. It was brutal. It was only the ground crumbling under their feet that allowed Kirk to get the upper hand.
One of the Klingons was John Larroquette, of Night Court fame. Also, did you notice Kirk’s old Yeoman, Janice Rand in the Space Station’s Observation Deck? She was the one with red hair shaking her head at the Enterprise’s damage.
You absolutely should do the Next Generation movies. Just like the original cast movies, they had their ups and downs, but they're definitely worth a watch.
Yes, it's quite disappointing that Uhura was so underused in the movie. Her role in the novelization was much more exciting. Not only did she stay on Earth to facilitate the escape of the rest of the team, her task was to inform Ambassador Sarek. And she had an exciting chase scene towards the Vulcan embassy.
Stealing the Enterprise is such a great moment, the destruction of the Enterprise always brakes my heart. All the movies are so well worth watching.
Next Gen is probably my favorite series if not, the best series. Their movies are OK, but First Contact is a standout
Spock wasn't meant to be in any further movies beyond WoK, as Nimoy felt he was done with the franchise. Nimoy directing was a lure to bring him back. A little trivia: Maltz the Klingon was played by John Larroquette, best known from the TV show "Night Court."
They purposefully moved away from Kirstie Alleys performance after she talked herself out of the role (or her agent did, either way) because that was informed by a dropped subplot where she was half Romulan. Robin Curtis plays her as a full Vulcan so it's hard to be upset at her because that's what they asked her to do. They even redesigned her besides the permed hair. Look at Alleys eyebrows, they're arched. Of course they gave Romulans up swept brows later anyway, but that was part of it, as well as those minor flashes of emotion you're not gonna get outta Curtis.
If you want some real Saavik shenanigans, I'll try to remember to tell you about pre production on The Undiscovered Country. Such a great plot point they had to scramble off of.
17:49 Fun fact - that Klingon officer is John Laroquette of Night Court fame
And no, Kirk doesn't speak Klingon (well he might speak a little) - he's just repeating what he heard the Klingon captain say earlier
Captain Styles is intended to be the same character as in the TOS episode, "Balance of Terror"[he was a Lieutenant, at the time]
You should watch The Original Series aka TOS. I believe you would greatly enjoy it. The writing was fantastic
😂 I love how the guy who played Spock‘s father mark lenard is depending on the show or the movie a Romulan a Klingon and a Vulcan 😂 he’s the only person in Star Trek history to play three different alien races
For what it's worth, the effects were good for their time, I don't recall me or my friends noticing anything sub-par.
There was one more major actor in this film. The last Klingon left alive was John Laroquette, who was HUGE on Night Court at that time. The Bird of Prey is actually a much smaller ship than the Enterprise; if it weren't damaged and uncrewed, it would crush the Klingon.
I met all the OG cast except for Kelly & Jimmy.
Boy, you get some fun stories from them in their own element.
And Lloyd made a great Klingon! Score is great here. Best uniforms ever. 2, 3, 4 and 6 are the best.
It took me decades to get a decent model of a Bird of Prey. I need another.
ST IV is my personal favorite, but Ii, III and IV really is a trilogy so the whole arc is necessary. V is problematic although I still feel a certain warmth about it. It unfortunately had issues with the budget, which is entirely Paramount's fault, and the big climax was entirely whittled down to compensate which is unfortunate because Shatner really wanted to get it done. The Next Generation series of films are very good particularly FIRST CONTACT, which deals with Captain Picard's most sinister enemy.
According to an episode of the original series, Kirk’s predecessor had been commanding the Enterprise for 11 years. Kirk hasn’t seen Khan since the first season fifteen years ago. Plus, Kirk’s predecessor is said to have taken over from the first captain, so the Enterprise is more like 30 years old. However, this movie came out about twenty years after the series. That’s likely where the “twenty years” comes from.
It's still hard watching Spock's death, even on recap, a recap on a review... It's that well done.
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country is an *amazing* movie and my favorite of the entire series. Great Cold War analogy.
About the next movies in the original line, the 5th part is quite rough but the 6th and final movie with the TOS crew is definitely a must-watch. As far as the Next Generation films go, they're more of a mixed bag, if Star Trek is more and more appealing to you, I'd still recommend a watch, but it's of course up to you. Thanks for the reactions!
13:57 So, you wouldn't have known what Pon Farr actually is.
15:32 Shatner was actually trying to flop in the chair, but they kept the flub in because it fits the pathos of the moment.
Shatner was supposed to collapse into the command chair but he missed & hit the floor instead, all while staying in character. Nimoy liked it so much that he used that take
Omg. I’ve been watching you since beginning! 🤓😁😎 I’m huge Star Wars fan. But I think Star Trek edges out a smidge. For reasons I think only Star Trek fans can understand. I am so happy to watch your reactions to Star Trek OG! And how much you have already loved them! Especially the core values of the story and characters. Even the Enterprise, a true character. I CAN NOT WAIT till you see ST IV The Voyage Home! Omg! That one is amazing. True core love. It means a lot to me cause my mom who passed. We loved it. And the places that were filmed, very personal and loved. I love watching your reactions so much!!! True film lover! Btw if you can watch some crucial episodes of The Next Generation before you watch the TNG Star Trek films will be greatly appreciated and help you to develop deep and understand some critical and truly great points. Thank you so much for your great amazing reactions! Seriously you’re part of the greatest reactors, so well done!!!❤️👍🤌
The Klingon ship was a K-22B Bird of Prey. A scout class vessel.
Scotty told Geordi LaForge the same thing he told Kirk, about multiplying the time requirement by 4, for repairs, in the TNG episode, "Relics"
This was the one I remembered the most as a kid, because I grew up watching it on VHS when we didn't have the other movies in the franchise. So this one always holds a special place for me.
Trivia: Frank Welker (voice of Megatron, Scooby Doo, and a gazzillion others) voiced Spocks screams
When Megatron was almost killed in Transformers: The Movie (animated) Leonard Nimoy took over the voice when Megatron was rebuilt as Galvatron.
I would highly recommend watching through the second Next Generation film, but to get the most out of them, I would be sure to watch the following Next Generation episodes:
1) Q Who
2) The Best of Both Worlds, Pts. I & II
3) Family
These will give you the character insight you need for both the first two Next Generation films.
fun fact star trek III is the first time the iconic "klingon bird of prey" is shown on screen previous times the "bird of prey" was a romulan vessel....watch all of the movies; they are good even star trek 5 which, as i call it "is the movie paramount didn't want to make"
edited: the kilngon who says "i do not deserve to live" is john laraquette(or is it laroquette) a.k.a. dan feilding on 'night court'
From what we will eventually learn about Klingon history, culture and politics from TNG, DS9, and Voyager, Kruge really isn't a villain, but an antagonist. From the Klingon perspective, he's actually pretty heroic, sacrificing everything to defend his empire against what he believed was an illegal Federation super weapon. It's actually pretty tragic that circumstances pitted Kruge and Kirk against one another. If they had been born eighty years later, they very well might have fought alongside each other during the Dominion War - and it would have been glorious...