The fact your father's Wi-Fi password was the destruct code for the U.S.S. Enterprise tells me he had a great sense of humor and good taste in entertainment.
Nothing will top the emotional impact of Spock’s death in ST2, but the loss of the Enterprise, one of the biggest characters in her own right, was a close second and left a lot of people feeling the loss.
not only do I love how she called it something different every time it was there was no hint of uncertainty in her voice.. she knew what she was saying was the right name every time.
If you reach the summit of Mount Sulu just before sunrise, and the wind is blowing just right, legend has it that right as sunrise occurs you can hear a faint "oh myyyy" in the wind😆
When this first came out it kinda took a critical beating. But it's aged well. Seeing the reaction to IV is gonna be great. I'd speculate it'll be fave of ST reactions.
Also, Maltz (the only Klingon left on the Bird of Prey when the Enterprise crew takes over) was played by John LaRoquette, more commonly known as Dan Fielding on Night Court. James B. Sikking, who played the captain of the U.S.S. Excelsior, was well known in the 1980s for his role as Lt. Hunter on Hill Street Blues.
And also quick glimpses of a very young Miguel Ferrer (who ended a long career working on NCIS Los Angeles) and Phil Morris (prolific actor best known for work on Smallville and other Arrow-verse shows). Lots of good actors working on this one.
Six people put their lives and careers on the line for a friend. One lost his son and his ship. One of the best portrayals of friendship, love, loyalty and sacrifice I've seen on screen. Even Enterprise, broken as she was, fought to her last to save Spock.
I saw this movie 🍿 back in;1984,I believe?Captain Kirk’s son 🧒 get’s killed in the film,because,there was nothing left for him to do in the film.The same thing happened in Downtown Abbey with a character.
William Shatner was so good in this movie. His reaction when David dies is heart breaking, and changes Kirk forever. The desruction of the one thing he loves, the Enterprise, changing death into a chance to fight back. Kirk's finest hour.
The scene where Stiles tells him, "Kirk, you do this, and you'll never sit in the captain's chair again" is another perfect performance; Shatner has that instant of hesitation, Kirk asking himself one last time if this is the right thing to do, and then he's resolute and goes forward.
You apologized because "some people hate Star Trek" but honestly, these reactions have been among my favorites! I truly hope you go back and do some more original series reactions.
Right on! DEFINITELY "Mirror, Mirror".I'd also say "Doomsday Machine" , "Balance of Terror", "Journey to Babel" and "Menagerie". Hell, do 'em all. @@r.t.aegean3236
What I remember about this movie: when Spock died at the end of Star Trek II the theater was in stunned silence. But when the Enterprise blew up, people cried out. Then when the crew stood on that hill watching the Enterprise burn down through the atmosphere, you could hear people audibly sobbing all over the theater. Star Trek is not the voyages of Kirk and Spock, it’s the voyages of the starship Enterprise. And they killed the Enterprise. It really broke people.
@@SJHFoto And then you went to Star Trek 4, knowing that it was all about whales, but NO they kick the movie off showing it too you all over again and just twisting the knife.
Bear in mind that they were going to retire the old girl anyway. Given the battering it took they might not even have given the Enterprise the dignity of a museum ship. So she got to go out in a blaze of glory.
Kirk, early in TOS, episode: The Naked Time, "She...the ship is called "SHE!" Never lose you." As a young child growing up on Trek tos reruns in the 80s, then seeing this end to her refit so quickly after ST II TWOK...really broke me. I pitched a fit like an autistic child would about her burger being broken in two pieces at Red Robin. I later learned to appreciate it though...all good things must come to an end. Poor David, he really died saving Savvik, she was going to be knifed by the Klingon, no doubt...Klingons hate Romulans and Vulcans really, she was the obvious victim. He had to try to live up to his father's name after that guilt trip she put him on...and the plot needed Kirk to have a reason to fall trying to sit in his chair. Poor animal, though....Kruge's pet Targ didn't deserve to die! 😭😭😭
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 Also, a ship's name (at least in western maritime tradition, which Starfleet is based on) is traditionally spoken as if it were a person's. So you would just call her "Enterprise," not "THE Enterprise."
The reason they "killed" Spock in "Khan" was Leonard Nimoy really didn't want to play the part anymore and said he'd only do "Khan" if Spock died. But, during the filming, he realized he was wrong and that the character needed to live on and was vital to the franchise. But, they'd already committed his character to die. So, they basically had to come up with a way to bring him back, and that's how you get this movie.
Right. But watching the movies in order today makes it seem like there was a plan all along to bring Spock back. But there really wasn't! Star Trek 3 was not planned when 2 was made. Nimoy had a change of heart after 2, and getting into directing. But they were able to use some elements of 2 along with some really good writing to make it seem like bringing Spock back was always the plan.
Sort of "during the filming" It was actually during the first screening when he saw how everyone reacted to his death. So they went back and added the "remember" mind meld as a "back door" to bring him back if the movie worked out and he wanted to do another.
@lyianx I had saw a documentary a while back about "Khan" and that's where Nimoy had said at first he'd come back if they killed off Spock, but eventually he realized the character needed to survived. It's where he also mentioned that Spock "dying" had leaked out among the fanbase and they came up with the Kobayashi test and Kirk saying "aren't you dead?"
It's a shame that Leonard Nimoy isn't with us anymore. I feel he would enjoy a reaction like this many years after the fact. "I just like going on adventures with these guys," is a great quote that would have made him smile.
The best reaction ever and my absolute favorite line..... "Oh My Gawd, that was the WiFi password that my dad set up.... zero, zero, zero, destruct, zero. I remember that, like what the heck does this mean?"
Remember in "Amok Time" when Kirk defied orders to help Spock get to Vulcan and said “I owe him my life a dozen times. Isn't that worth a career?” This movie answers that question...
And Spock stuck around in Tholian space to retrieve Kirk from the USS Defiant, which was trapped in a trans dimensional rift, putting the entire Crew at risk of insanity from the deteriorating space they were in. They were also at risk of being destroyed by the Tholians' Energy Web. This movie answers Kirk's "You would have done the same for me" reply to Spock.
You are going to absolutely LOVE the next one. It's perhaps the one of the six movies that most features the characters of the major crew members, and gives each of them moments to shine. Plus it's a really fun story that I think you'll enjoy.
Agreed! Can’t wait for IV. People call it the second best film after Khan, but the two movies are so different in tone that I believe they can both share the top spot.
I'm sorry but IV is my least favorite. Don't get me wrong I have seen all of these movies about 100 times each. Love them all but that one just isn't my favorite.
I always found Star Trek III to be an underrated film. When I first saw it (in the 90s, during a my Trek discovery) I thought it was almost as good as the best in the series. Christopher Lloyd is great, I was fascinated by the destruction of the Enterprise, and the plot was really interesting. As for the movie bringing Spock back from the dead, Shatner said "The movie is called 'The Search For Spock'. If we'd have just shrugged and said 'we didn't find him' the audience would have thrown rocks at the screen". XD
It was always my favorite of the original movies. I never understood the "meh" reputation it seems to have. My only complaint is echoed by Cassie, which is that I think they could have handled David's death better -- like made it more of a significant and emotional scene, instead of a couple of quick shots.
@@Johnny_Socko I think it's because it was sandwiched between II and IV which are usually considered to be the best of the TOS films (VI as well, but that one seems to go back and forth with IV as the second-best). III seemed to be largely dismissed as the weak link of the three despite the fact that it is, in and of itself, a great Trek film.
I worked in Hollywood for 37 years. I met Nichelle Nicholls (Lt. Uhura) the same time I met Jimmy Stewart (It's a Wonderful Life), they attended the grand opening of the Galaxy Theater and Hollywood History museum, I think it was 1996 or so. Jimmy passed away soon after. And I knew Kirstie Alley well
@@RoadWarrior77 Spell Nazis. Not an original thought in their head, but they will scold and lecture you about a typo. Keep your sermons in church please.
I've grown to appreciate this movie a lot more in the youtube reaction era, it's got a lot of heart and care to how its crafted. Yes Saavik is supposed to be the same vulcan played by Kirstie Allie but was recast with Robin Curtis because Kirstie was a big star on the TV show Cheers by this point. Also you noticing that Mark Lenard (who plays Sarek, Spock's father) looking the same age as Spock; Mark Lenard is actually 7 years older than Leonard Nimoy but that's obviously not a very big age difference for playing father/son. But Mark Lenard is so dang good. And you caught Christopher Lloyd through the makeup, and the same actress playing T'Lar! Well done! You'll love #4
Being that you've only watched a few episodes, you can't understand how absolutely heartbreaking it was for long time fans to see the Enterprise destroyed....People were actually tearing up in the theaters...
Yes, it's Christopher Lloyd as the Klingon commander! He's most famous for playing Doctor Emmett Brown, but when I saw this movie in the theater, I recognized him as Reverend Jim from Taxi.
Saavik's chain of logic: David chose to use protomatter. This made the Device seem to be viable. This led to the approval of Phases I & II. This led to USS Reliant going to Ceti Alpha V (thinking it was C.E. VI) and the events of the last movie. If David had not used protomatter, no research at Space Station Regula I, no dead scientists, no dead Enterprise crewmen, no death of Captain Terrell or Khan or his followers. All those deaths, logically, are on David's hands.
26:45 they are sad because they lost their beloved Enterprise. A loyal friend and we must say a real character of the show. In theatres, many people cried at her destruction.
McCoy's willingness to risk his life to save Spock really shows how the characters of Star Trek are connected on a personal level. First Spock gives up his life for his crew and then Kirk risks his career to save his friend and then McCoy selflessly is willing to lay down his life for his friend despite their constant bickering and conflicts. McCoy does care about Spock and he doesn't back down when it comes to saving him.
I always thought these 2 really bickered BECAUSE they cared for each other. Whenever the chips were down, one always came to the rescue of the other. That bickering isn't fooling anybody. These 2 are family.
fun fact: it was in this movie that the klingon language was actually created. yes. it is an actual language and you can learn it. in fact, christopher lloyd says that he can still speak it fluently.
They did have some Klingon Language in the first movie, but it was mostly words just made up by Scotty's actor James Doohan and one of the movie's producers, with no intent on making it a fully fleshed out constructed language, unlike what the did in 3. As a side note, the actor who played Spock's dad Sarek, Mark Leonard, played a Klingon in The Motion Picture. When you take into account the TOS episode where he also played a Romulan, that meant he had the hat trick for playing the big recurring alien species from early Trek.
Unfortunately Deforest Kelley was the first of the cast to pass away. Uhura was the most recent to pass away. Kirk, sulu, and chekov are all that remain
4:30 Fun fact this young actor talking to Shatner is Phil Morris. His dad was Greg Morris who starred on the original tv show Mission Impossible. Phil and his sister Iona played two of the orphaned children on the original Star Trek episode “Miri”. Over the decades Phil has played parts in various Star Trek movies and tv shows.
@cleekmaker00 he also played one of the kids in the TOS episode Miri and a Jem'Hadar in DS9 episode Rocks and Shoals in which he performs one of my favorite scenes in all of Star Trek
Im surprised the patron crew didnt recommend that you watch the episode "Journey to Babel " before this. It would help clear up Spock's family situation . Personally Id suggest before watching the next movie to watch "Journey to Babel" to see Spock's parents and perhaps also "Errand of Mercy" to get a handle on the Klingons who will show up again in the movies.
Excellent suggestion, and I agree. I found the exclusion of "Journey to Babel" to be an odd oversight from the start, as it's one of the most important episodes, particularly when one is planning on watching the films. "Errand of Mercy" is another good choice.
It really enhances the movies when you've watched ALL the episodes. Even the "bad" episodes have little bits of development that add to the fun of the movies. Errand of Mercy is a AWESOME suggestion.
Cassie, I liked the callback when you thought the Vulcan priestess was T'Pau... T'Pau was payed by Austrian actress Celia Lovsky. This was High Priestess T'Lar, played by the legendary Dame Judith Anderson (she was Memnet in "The Ten Commandments") . There was a lot of star power in the Star Trek franchise in those days.
17:23 Yep. For the first time in Star Trek history, they recast somebody. Saavik was originally played by Kirstie Alley. For this and the next film, she's played by Robin Curtis.
Your Dad is awesome. I bet he was crying during the destruction of the Enterprise too - a lot of tears in the theater. It is always hard to watch this movie for the self destruct sequence. Besides, "Don't call me tiny," the best line in the whole movie is: "That green blooded son of a bitch. It's his revenge for all those arguments he lost!" Runner ups, "How can you be deaf with ears like those!" and "I accept the danger. Hell of a time to ask." I suggest you take a look at the episode from the original series, season three: "The Tholian Web." Spock puts everything on the line based upon his theories to save Kirk.
Star Trek debuted in September 1966 when I was 12. I've been a Star Trek fan ever since. I enjoyed the first three Star Trek movies but wasn't blown away by any of them. I enjoyed the Wrath of Khan maybe the most. In 1986 when I was 32, I was a young father of two kids, a boy and a girl and had a lovely wife. When I heard about the release of (Star Trek 4) Star Trek, The Journey Home, I was excited to see it but wasn't getting my hopes up. I can honestly say that Star Trek, The Journey Home is and always will be my favorite Star Trek movie!!! I have a feeling that you, Cassie, will enjoy it too, but you need to have your sister Carly with you because she may like it just as much! PS: It was directed by Spock, Leonard Nimoy!
During the scene where Enterprise is coming into Spacedock, there’s a shot where a bunch of people are looking at the ship and gaping at the battle damage. One of them is a woman in Starfleet uniform with curly red hair - this is actress Grace Lee Whitney, reprising her role as Janice Rand. You’d remember her from the original series episode “The Naked Time” as a blonde yeoman in red with a high-piled hairdo and a short skirt who brought a report or something to Captain Kirk - she appeared in 8 episodes of the first season.
FYI most the crew from TOS is now dead. Shatner, Konieg and Takei or Kirk, Chekov and Sulu are left. Many have ashes going to space with Gene and Mrs. Rodenberry.
Majel Barret/Roddenberry aka Nurse Chapeldied in 2008. Jane Wyatt aka Amanda Grayson (Spock's mom) died in 2006 Mark Lenard aka Sarek (Spock's dad) died in 1996. James Doohan aka Mr. Scott died in 2005. Nicholls Nichols aka Uhura died in 2022. DeForest Kelley aka Bones died in 1999. Grace Whitney aka Yeoman Rand died in 2015 Honorable mention Jeffrey Hunter aka capt. Pike died in 1969
Leonard Nimoy (who directed Star Trek III: The Search for Spock), wanted Kirstie Alley to reprise the role of Saavik, but, according to Nimoy's autobiography I Am Spock, Alley's agent requested a large salary increase that the production simply couldn't afford.
Kirstie Alley on the other hand, claimed that she was offered less than Star Trek II to do more, and by then she also had far more clout. She deserved to be paid more, but Trek's movie pedigree was still not quite solidified so the budget wasn't there.
That's right. It was her manager that did that on his own without her permission. She had fully expected to come back and was shocked when she got replaced because the manager was greedy
*Sarek: **_"But at what cost. Your ship, your son."_* *Kirk: **_"If I hadn't tried, the cost would have been my soul."_* That brief exchange always stuck with me.
This movie was the first VHS tape that I ever owned. It was a present from my mom for my 11th (or 12th?) birthday in the mid 90s. Though she was generally not impressed with me watching any sorts of TV and strictly limited my TV sessions to around 5 hours per week (at that age), I was mind blown and unbelievably happy when she got me a VHS tape. Not just any VHS tape, but one of Star Trek. She even watched it with me because she wasn't sure if the movie was age appropriate. I still have a picture of that birthday, where my mom sits next to me while I unwrap the VHS tape. I am now in my 40s and have kids of my own. My mother is in her late 60s and has Alzheimer's. She is unable to walk, talk or move, and hasn't recognize anyone in almost 2 years. That picture of that moment is one of the most beautiful pictures I have of her and me together. We framed it and put it next to her bed. That is why to me, Star Trek The Search For Spock will always be associated with extremely beautiful memories.
@timothywhitfield8785 B'whahahahahaha! Then you really would've hated it back when we had to wait years for the next film to be made. Years left wondering what would happen in ST: III since we just saw Spock die. Is Saavik meant to take his place? Will Chekov return to the Enterprise or go off to a new ship like he was with Reliant? What about the rumor that Sulu will be Captain of a ship called Excelsior?
I have been watching you and your sister for - OH MY GOD OVER A YEAR NOW - and I can honestly say you are in my top 3 reaction channels. First time commenting because the joy on your face was just as palpable as the distress you had during RANSOM. I didn't have you pegged for a STAR TREK person but you did say part of you starting the channel was to get away from the "chick flicks" ... I hope you continue into the final frontier because THE VOYAGE HOME starts right where this leaves off and tells a fish out of water story (some irony there) that's filled with a lot of humor. I remember a lot of fans not really liking it at first but since then it's become part of the "the even numbered Star Treks are the best". Can't wait!
Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan Star Trek III: Search for Spock Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home Is one of cinema’s great movie trilogies, with Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and Rocky You’re in for a treat
Except they are not in any way a trilogy. Neither is Rocky It has 6 movies in it's franchise. 9 IF you include Creed, but personally I let Creed stand as its own trilogy. Also despite your personal feelings on the matter, Star Wars is also no longer a trilogy.
You should watch, as others have said, the original series episode Journey to Babel, as that introduced Sarek (Spock's father) and Amanda (Spock's human mother). Same actor playing Sarek in this film. And will help you get a little more out of Star Trek 4.
James Doohan who played Scotty on Star Trek is missing the middle finger on his right hand. It was shot off while participating in the D-Day invasion. He was shot a total of six times. If you watch closely he makes it so that you never see this on screen.
Seeing this in theaters and when the Enterprise blew up, it brought tears to my eyes after so many years watching that ship. Looking forward to seeing you review part IV.
Kirk's reaction at the news of David's death is devastating. Shatner did an amazing job. I saw this in theaters and the audience was shocked. I heard people weeping when Kirk laments' "Klingon bastards killed my son". I think there were men in the audience who felt that 'as fathers' reacting to the death of their own children. It was soul crushing and a great performance by Shatner.
The old model of the Enterprise (11 foot long) was not detailed enough to withstand inspection under HD cinema. So a new model was commisioned for the later films.
A helpful tip for learning the Vulcan salute. If you really want to train your hands to be able to do it, take hair ties and tie them around each of the two pairs of fingers. That will keep your fingers together as you get used to holding the "V" shape and makes it easier to keep your fingers upright. I did this when I was younger and to this day, I am still able to hold the salute on both hands.
Let's not forget... It was also similar to the Mork from Ork alien handshake greeting from the 70s sit-com Mork & Mindy with Robin Williams.. We all know they copied Spock's Vulcan salute and modified it. Nanoo nanoo.🖖
When I was 5 (37, soon), I could do it on my left hand easily, but it took me 6-7 years until I could do it on my right, and I trained my right eyebrow during my middle school days to go up without my left following.
For long time Star Trek fans, since TOS, the first time watching ST III, it hurt to see the Enterprise blew up and disintegrate in the atmosphere of the planet. Yet it's fitting it served its final duty and bring forth a new beginning.
Another fun thing about this movie is that it really laid the groundwork for what the Klingons would become going forward. From their look to their militaristic yet honor driven culture to solidifying the foundation of their language. They are one of the most beloved and fleshed out alien cultures in sci-fi and it owes a lot to this movie.
Cassie should watch the Star Trek episode, "Journey to Babel." Great back story regarding Spock's parents. Good action. Good drama. Quintessential Star Trek!
Fun fact: the foreward to the klingon dictionary fondly attributes the federation's ability to translate the language to Maltz, the transport techincian turned prisoner of the incident. So thanks to Kirk for not killing him.
In universe, Maltz's cooperation would've built upon the groundwork laid by Hoshi Sato, the linguist/communications officer aboard Captain Archer's Enterprise in the decade before the Federation was founded. Of course, none of that existed until the prequel series, Star Trek Enterprise, was made.
@@saytr4 He approached Christopher Lloyd at the wrap party and told him it was nice working with him. Lloyd said, "Who are you?" Didn't recognize him at all without the make up. LOL
Brilliant having you along as a Trekkie Cassie! Great reaction as always. I love this film, an essay on how wonderful a character Shatner's Kirk is. He is just 100% loyalty to Spock and his crew here, and Shatners acting when David is killed always brings a lump to my throat. Enjoy 4, it is my favourite Star Trek film, perhaps one of my favourite films total. Sheer fun!
Fun fact not only Christopher loyd played a klingon, but also john laraquette, who is also known for playing Dan on night court. He joked around saying his name was waltz, first name chocolate.
There is a very Large list of actors who played in both Night Court and Star Trek. Infact Bibi Besch Carol Marcus played a very rich snooty lady in a episode. The most famous is Brent Spiner who played Bob Wheeler in Night Court and Lt Commander Data in Star Trek
It took two movies to see Spock's final solution to the Kobayashi Maru test. What do you think of his ultimate solution?😁. Gotta add, you now need to see the third part of this story in the fourth movie. It's fun, lighthearted, and a nice conclusion to the trilogy.
It still hits me in the gut every time I see our precious Enterprise destroyed. I was quite young when this first came out, so I don’t know if I saw it in theaters or later at home, but I feel the loss every time I see it. I was aghast.
One of the key reasons I love the original movies, actions have consequences and the dramatic moments land because they're built up to and a genuine emotional sacrifice is made.
I seriously had a temper tantrum where I was not willing to accept the destruction, I flipped out and my parents had to turn the tape off to calm me down...omg, I'm embarrassed about it now. "She! The ship is called She! Never lose you." Kirk and Scotty both loved their baby, but in retrospect, better to have her go in this way than fall into enemy hands...too bad those photon torpedoes were so weak though, all they did was kill Kruge's pet Targ, animal!
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 I remember in the original series when they used to dial in multi-megaton yields on photon torpedoes. That sure changed throughout the course of the franchise!
Tears man, tears. The shot of them on Genesis watching the Enterprise fall across the sky. What a shot! The Enterprise was a CHARACTER. Its like a loved one died. I get choked up every time.
There is a clip of the whole "stealing the Enterprise" sequence on YT somewhere and the thing I remember most about it were two comments, one comment underneath that said "When you can turn 5 minutes of reversing a ship into a thing of beauty and tension, its a fantastic scene!" and the other "The most epic backing out the garage scene ever filmed!!!!!" The music and visuals are exvellent and the cast realy sell the increasing tension as the Enterprise gets closer to the closed bay doors.
Imagine what it was like for people who grew up watching the original series, all the stuff in between that and the first movie, seeing the E's makeover but still feeling that connection, and then watching her explode and fall burning to the planet below. The crew were us in that scene.
As a fan it must've been jarring to see all the changes. Like people are freaking out about the new Harry Potter show and cast on Max. This franchise feels like an extreme version of that.
It almost broke my heart when I learned "Bones" had died in 1999. He is my favourite character in Star Trek. Grumpy, sarcastic and a good friend. I miss him.
Don't feel bad if you can't do the Vulcan salute, Cassie. Not even Shatner can do it...when he does it in THIS movie, ("how many fingers am I holding up?") his fingers are glued or taped together. 🖖
This and "The Wrath of Khan" were among the very first Movies that I'd ever seen when I was a Kid, and while the former is considered (by most) to be The Best one of them all...I've always had a soft spot for "The Search for Spock."💝I genuinely Love-&-Respect this one because it gives Me everything that I want: another Fun-&-Epic Adventure with My Favorite Crew, it's both Sci-Fi as well as Spiritual too, and all of this was even Directed by Spock himself🖖(R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy)!
Maltz, the Klingon 2nd in command, was played by John Laroquette who was known for being the defense attorney on 80's NBC TV series Night Court, which just recently got rebooted.
@dudeusmaximus6793 It is a bit harder to recognize John as opposed to Chris as his makeup covers more of his face but there is no mistaking that voice. He may not get screen or IMDB credit...I haven't looked myself. Another little known credit for John is on the Robert Conrad led series Baa Baa Black Sheep, which I loved as a kid about WWII pilots in the South Pacific.
@@jayeisenhardt1337 In the TOS era, I'd say Klingons are more like space-orcs lol. Tolkien would've probably had a heart attack if he heard their language! 😂🖖
You should really watch more episodes from the original series. So many good ones. "The Naked Time", "A Piece of the Action", "Shore Leave", "The Conscience of the King", "Court Martial", "Journey to Babel", "Friday's Child", "Wolf in the Fold", "Patterns of Force", "The Enterprise Incident", "Day of the Dove", "For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky", "The Tholian Web",
Glad you noticed that "Doc Brown" played Kruge. But what you missed was that Maltz, the last surviving Klingon, was played by John Larroquette - better known as prosecutor Dan Fielding on Night Court and the star of The John Larroquette Show. :)
In fact - Christopher Lloyd played Commander Kruge BEFORE he played Doc Brown! Which - for most of us in the early to mid 80s, meant we went straight from knowing him as "Reverend Jim" on the comedy sitcom "Taxi" to seeing him as the Klingon Kruge! You would not BELIEVE the bizarre intersection of referential jokes we came up with based on THAT mental whiplash back in the day! 🤣🤣🤣
35:27 Mark! 11K Thumbs + Mine! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊 Notes: When asked what Maltz's first name might be, he speculated that it might be "Chocolate"! 😉
In an interview promoting The Search for Spock, Shatner and Nimoy were asked if they find Spock. Shatner answered, "Well, it would be an awful waste of time if we didn't." When I saw this in the theater on opening weekend, the audience raised their right hands in the Vulcan salute during the replay of Spock's death scene. We were into it from the very start.
Love how Cassie called the Vulcan Mountain everything but mount Seleya. We even got a mount Sulu at one point 🤣🤣🤣. I have a feeling that star trek 4 will be Cassie's favourite out of the OG franchise. Can't wait 🖖
Additionally, the foes were first written to be Romulans instead of Klingons and the Bird of Prey was supposed to be one of their ships. In the rewrite the bad guys were changed to Klingons and the story was supposed to be the Bird of Prey was a Romulan ship that the Klingons stole.
@@BogeyTheBear The only in-movie aspect of this that survives is the Bird of Prey bridge in Star Trek III looking so un-Klingon (compared to what we saw in later movies and shows). One of the few things I will ding Star Trek IV for is totally remaking the Bird of Prey bridge in a more "Klingon style", something that makes no sense after watching STIII.
@@mattperiolatOhhhh that's right. I was having visions of Amy Grant and Dreamlover era Mariah for some reason. But t'was Canadian legend and Prime Minister Celine Dion.
The death of David was described to Shatner by Nimoy, who was directing that that moment was a thunderclap. He left Shatner alone for a few minutes to process it and we got that incredible scene.
Star Trek (original) has an interesting formulation, in that most (I think) consider Spock to not be the central character, but he's the most essential character. Kirk is clearly the central character, and he's good at his role, but what we really enjoy are the cast of reoccurring / support characters and their bits of screen time. I don't remember any other production - including all of those ensemble cast TV shows - where I felt quite this way. Like in this movie, I'm happy to see Sulu get a moment early on, where he flips a guard and destroys a control station, and to see Uhura get a couple lines as she beams the rest of the crew away. I cannot think of any other show where I thought it was cool to see the individual supporting actors doing the simple things the plot requires.
These movies were a huge part of my childhood and I was hoping to see a reaction to them someday so this has been so much fun seeing these reactions. The Search for Spock was always my favourite one. Christopher Lloyd was so epic in it and you could tell he was having an absolute blast during the whole thing. Also of note the other Klingon, the one at the end that Kirk lied to, that was John Larroquette.
What to me is cool about this series of movies is that they begin where the last one left off. So I think you will like the next one, it has a lot more comedy and all the characters get to really shine. Loved your reaction.
Phil Morris, the guy who plays the cadet Kirk talks to at the beginning, was in an episode of the original series as a child, and in the Voyager episode "One Small Step." He also played a Klingon and a Jem'Hadar in two different episodes of DS9. Maltz is played by John Larroquette, who is famous from Night Court. Robin Curtis, who plays Saavik in this movie, played a Vulcan in the TNG episode "Gambit." She was the second actress to portray Saavik, after Kirstie Alley in ST2. Both actresses made their acting debuts as this character.
That your dad set the Wi-Fi to 000-destruct-0 is just perfect. And that you were today years old when you found out what it meant.
it always stops at one on the show
Cassie's Dad has taste lol
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I think Cassie's Dad better change his wi-fi password now! LOL
Highlight of the reaction!
I love how Cassie immediately got defensive when they even mentioned retiring the Enterprise. She's a Trekkie now.
Like CV 5 and CVN 65 (both famous carriers that inspired Roddenberry's starship), a crying shame to dispose of such a ship...
The fact your father's Wi-Fi password was the destruct code for the U.S.S. Enterprise tells me he had a great sense of humor and good taste in entertainment.
"Is that Doc from Back to the Future?"
Us oldies: It's Jim Ignatowski from Taxi!
Haha... 😂👍🏻
Damn.... Definitely feel aged now 😆
There’s also Dan Fielding from Night Court in this film.
@@sansabarkWhat? Really?!
@@orolab4048 John Larroquette plays Maltz, a member of Kruge's bridge crew.
Nothing will top the emotional impact of Spock’s death in ST2, but the loss of the Enterprise, one of the biggest characters in her own right, was a close second and left a lot of people feeling the loss.
Honestly losing the Enterprise hit me harder than the death of Spock. I just loved that ship the same way Kirk did.
@@bobrunnicles4618 As another series famously said, "only death can pay for life".
I love that we got at least three different names for Mount Selaya from Cassie. The funniest was Mount Sulu. 😃
Yeah, "Mount Sulu" really tickled me!!
not only do I love how she called it something different every time it was there was no hint of uncertainty in her voice.. she knew what she was saying was the right name every time.
If you reach the summit of Mount Sulu just before sunrise, and the wind is blowing just right, legend has it that right as sunrise occurs you can hear a faint "oh myyyy" in the wind😆
Mount Selena.
Another great Cassieism. But she'll never top the James Bond movie, Doctor Number.
You're gonna love Star Trek IV, glad to see you sticking with these movies, they really are a treat
she can skip V
My 2nd favorite 😊
@@denisdonohue1863 I dunno, seeing how bad V is makes you appreciate the others more :D
IV IS GREAT
When this first came out it kinda took a critical beating. But it's aged well. Seeing the reaction to IV is gonna be great. I'd speculate it'll be fave of ST reactions.
Yes, Christopher Lloyd, who is known for many roles including Doc Brown, plays the Klingon baddie in this film.
Along with John Larroquette.
Also, Maltz (the only Klingon left on the Bird of Prey when the Enterprise crew takes over) was played by John LaRoquette, more commonly known as Dan Fielding on Night Court. James B. Sikking, who played the captain of the U.S.S. Excelsior, was well known in the 1980s for his role as Lt. Hunter on Hill Street Blues.
*Remember when it was a thing for popular actors to appear in a Star Trek movie?*
And also quick glimpses of a very young Miguel Ferrer (who ended a long career working on NCIS Los Angeles) and Phil Morris (prolific actor best known for work on Smallville and other Arrow-verse shows). Lots of good actors working on this one.
The first Klingon-looking Klingon in the franchise!
Six people put their lives and careers on the line for a friend. One lost his son and his ship. One of the best portrayals of friendship, love, loyalty and sacrifice I've seen on screen. Even Enterprise, broken as she was, fought to her last to save Spock.
I credit this movie, really Star Trek in general, but this movie in particular for teaching me what it really means to be a friend.
I saw this movie 🍿 back in;1984,I believe?Captain Kirk’s son 🧒 get’s killed in the film,because,there was nothing left for him to do in the film.The same thing happened in Downtown Abbey with a character.
William Shatner was so good in this movie. His reaction when David dies is heart breaking, and changes Kirk forever. The desruction of the one thing he loves, the Enterprise, changing death into a chance to fight back. Kirk's finest hour.
The scene where Stiles tells him, "Kirk, you do this, and you'll never sit in the captain's chair again" is another perfect performance; Shatner has that instant of hesitation, Kirk asking himself one last time if this is the right thing to do, and then he's resolute and goes forward.
I got to ask Mr Shatner if he meant to miss the chair. He just smiled and said, "does it matter?"
@@neiloxley7229 Nimoy said on the DVD commentary that it wasn't scripted, but Shatner didn't break character so he didn't call "Cut." Good choice.
Shatner is Star Trek. Everything else stands on his shoulders.
You apologized because "some people hate Star Trek" but honestly, these reactions have been among my favorites!
I truly hope you go back and do some more original series reactions.
Mind if I add my vote for more ST:TOS Reactions?..
Especially, "Mirror, Mirror".
Right on! DEFINITELY "Mirror, Mirror".I'd also say "Doomsday Machine" , "Balance of Terror", "Journey to Babel" and "Menagerie". Hell, do 'em all. @@r.t.aegean3236
Yes. She needs to see more of the episodes.
CASSIE would enjoy more hardcore SciFi : STARSHIP TROOPERS, *PREDATOR 2* and ALIEN vs. PREDATOR. 👍
What kind of brainless Morlock hates Star Trek?
What I remember about this movie: when Spock died at the end of Star Trek II the theater was in stunned silence. But when the Enterprise blew up, people cried out. Then when the crew stood on that hill watching the Enterprise burn down through the atmosphere, you could hear people audibly sobbing all over the theater.
Star Trek is not the voyages of Kirk and Spock, it’s the voyages of the starship Enterprise. And they killed the Enterprise. It really broke people.
I actually commented about that. I didn't cry at Spock's death, but the sight of the iconic NCC-1701 on the hull melting did it for me
@@SJHFoto And then you went to Star Trek 4, knowing that it was all about whales, but NO they kick the movie off showing it too you all over again and just twisting the knife.
Bear in mind that they were going to retire the old girl anyway. Given the battering it took they might not even have given the Enterprise the dignity of a museum ship. So she got to go out in a blaze of glory.
Kirk, early in TOS, episode: The Naked Time, "She...the ship is called "SHE!" Never lose you."
As a young child growing up on Trek tos reruns in the 80s, then seeing this end to her refit so quickly after ST II TWOK...really broke me. I pitched a fit like an autistic child would about her burger being broken in two pieces at Red Robin.
I later learned to appreciate it though...all good things must come to an end.
Poor David, he really died saving Savvik, she was going to be knifed by the Klingon, no doubt...Klingons hate Romulans and Vulcans really, she was the obvious victim. He had to try to live up to his father's name after that guilt trip she put him on...and the plot needed Kirk to have a reason to fall trying to sit in his chair. Poor animal, though....Kruge's pet Targ didn't deserve to die! 😭😭😭
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 Also, a ship's name (at least in western maritime tradition, which Starfleet is based on) is traditionally spoken as if it were a person's. So you would just call her "Enterprise," not "THE Enterprise."
The fact that your dad made that password means he was a true trekkie. GG on him.
But it also means he had terrible network security.
@@fakecubed He had Red-Shirt Linux.
Somewhere in Canada numerous people logged onto Cassie's dad's WiFi last night...
"My logic is uncertain where my son is concerned" still hits hard given everything between Sarek and Spock.
The reason they "killed" Spock in "Khan" was Leonard Nimoy really didn't want to play the part anymore and said he'd only do "Khan" if Spock died. But, during the filming, he realized he was wrong and that the character needed to live on and was vital to the franchise. But, they'd already committed his character to die. So, they basically had to come up with a way to bring him back, and that's how you get this movie.
Right. But watching the movies in order today makes it seem like there was a plan all along to bring Spock back. But there really wasn't! Star Trek 3 was not planned when 2 was made. Nimoy had a change of heart after 2, and getting into directing. But they were able to use some elements of 2 along with some really good writing to make it seem like bringing Spock back was always the plan.
Sort of "during the filming" It was actually during the first screening when he saw how everyone reacted to his death. So they went back and added the "remember" mind meld as a "back door" to bring him back if the movie worked out and he wanted to do another.
@lyianx I had saw a documentary a while back about "Khan" and that's where Nimoy had said at first he'd come back if they killed off Spock, but eventually he realized the character needed to survived. It's where he also mentioned that Spock "dying" had leaked out among the fanbase and they came up with the Kobayashi test and Kirk saying "aren't you dead?"
Paramount pictures was inundated with letters from fans to bring Spock back after the death of Spock scene and the rest is history.
It's a shame that Leonard Nimoy isn't with us anymore. I feel he would enjoy a reaction like this many years after the fact. "I just like going on adventures with these guys," is a great quote that would have made him smile.
Well said.
I think George Takei WOULD love these reactions, to be honest.
Only 2 of the og cast left…
And they hate each other.
Kinda sad.
@@notmee2388There’s three, actually. Wait, you’re not counting Chekov, aren’t you?
@@zacharylewis2802 I stand corrected.
The best reaction ever and my absolute favorite line..... "Oh My Gawd, that was the WiFi password that my dad set up.... zero, zero, zero, destruct, zero. I remember that, like what the heck does this mean?"
Funny how you figured out what it means now lol
Remember in "Amok Time" when Kirk defied orders to help Spock get to Vulcan and said “I owe him my life a dozen times. Isn't that worth a career?” This movie answers that question...
And Spock stuck around in Tholian space to retrieve Kirk from the USS Defiant, which was trapped in a trans dimensional rift, putting the entire Crew at risk of insanity from the deteriorating space they were in. They were also at risk of being destroyed by the Tholians' Energy Web.
This movie answers Kirk's "You would have done the same for me" reply to Spock.
You are going to absolutely LOVE the next one. It's perhaps the one of the six movies that most features the characters of the major crew members, and gives each of them moments to shine. Plus it's a really fun story that I think you'll enjoy.
Totally agree IV was my favorite of the original era movies
Agreed! Can’t wait for IV. People call it the second best film after Khan, but the two movies are so different in tone that I believe they can both share the top spot.
I'm sorry but IV is my least favorite. Don't get me wrong I have seen all of these movies about 100 times each. Love them all but that one just isn't my favorite.
The Nuclear Wessels!!!
My favorite! I wasn’t much of a Star Trek fan ( I was 12 at the time). But I really enjoyed it when we rented it. I like the whole storyline.
One thing to consider about Star Trek is that the ship is a part of the crew, it's its own character, so blowing it up is a pretty big deal.
Cassie will ALWAYS keep surprising you, her becoming a full blown Trekkie was not on my bingo card. 😂
When she starts watching season 3 of DS9 we'll know we've finally converted her.
heheh. Mine too neither.
"Not on my Bingo card."
I like that! 😂
I never thought I might see Cassie introduced to Weyoun, Odo and Quark, but now my fingers are crossed!@@fakecubed
When she asked if they beamed to the Klingon ship or Genesis, I know she's a Trekkie right there
I always found Star Trek III to be an underrated film. When I first saw it (in the 90s, during a my Trek discovery) I thought it was almost as good as the best in the series. Christopher Lloyd is great, I was fascinated by the destruction of the Enterprise, and the plot was really interesting. As for the movie bringing Spock back from the dead, Shatner said "The movie is called 'The Search For Spock'. If we'd have just shrugged and said 'we didn't find him' the audience would have thrown rocks at the screen". XD
It was always my favorite of the original movies. I never understood the "meh" reputation it seems to have. My only complaint is echoed by Cassie, which is that I think they could have handled David's death better -- like made it more of a significant and emotional scene, instead of a couple of quick shots.
@@Johnny_Socko I think it's because it was sandwiched between II and IV which are usually considered to be the best of the TOS films (VI as well, but that one seems to go back and forth with IV as the second-best). III seemed to be largely dismissed as the weak link of the three despite the fact that it is, in and of itself, a great Trek film.
I worked in Hollywood for 37 years. I met Nichelle Nicholls (Lt. Uhura) the same time I met Jimmy Stewart (It's a Wonderful Life), they attended the grand opening of the Galaxy Theater and Hollywood History museum, I think it was 1996 or so. Jimmy passed away soon after. And I knew Kirstie Alley well
I was in Jr. High when WOK came out and a sci-fi supergeek. Fell in love with KA inside 15 minutes.
But not well enough to know how to spell her name. It's Kirstie.
@@RoadWarrior77 Auto-correct did that
@@RoadWarrior77 Spell Nazis. Not an original thought in their head, but they will scold and lecture you about a typo.
Keep your sermons in church please.
@@dudeusmaximus6793
He said it was auto-correct that did it. You don't have to be a richard and say anything.
I've grown to appreciate this movie a lot more in the youtube reaction era, it's got a lot of heart and care to how its crafted. Yes Saavik is supposed to be the same vulcan played by Kirstie Allie but was recast with Robin Curtis because Kirstie was a big star on the TV show Cheers by this point. Also you noticing that Mark Lenard (who plays Sarek, Spock's father) looking the same age as Spock; Mark Lenard is actually 7 years older than Leonard Nimoy but that's obviously not a very big age difference for playing father/son. But Mark Lenard is so dang good. And you caught Christopher Lloyd through the makeup, and the same actress playing T'Lar! Well done! You'll love #4
Kirstie Allie started doing Cheers in 1987. This movie came out in 1984. She was recast because she wanted more money than Shatner and Nemoy.
All so the last to live klingon is John Laeoquette of night court😅
Robin Curtis is highly underrated for "not being Kirstie Allie". I think she did a BETTER job with the character honestly.
T'Lar's first and only appearance is this movie
The Vulcan High Priestess was played by the extraordinary Dame Judith Anderson, one of Australia's finest actresses all the back to the 1930s.
Being that you've only watched a few episodes, you can't understand how absolutely heartbreaking it was for long time fans to see the Enterprise destroyed....People were actually tearing up in the theaters...
Because she's a Main Character... Someone forgot to tell Justin Lin.
Yes, it's Christopher Lloyd as the Klingon commander! He's most famous for playing Doctor Emmett Brown, but when I saw this movie in the theater, I recognized him as Reverend Jim from Taxi.
Don’t forget John Larroquette from Night Court.
“GIVE ME GENESIS!!! And… what… does… a … yellow… light… mean?”
And uncle fester in the 1991 Addams family and addams family values movies
Saavik's chain of logic: David chose to use protomatter. This made the Device seem to be viable. This led to the approval of Phases I & II. This led to USS Reliant going to Ceti Alpha V (thinking it was C.E. VI) and the events of the last movie.
If David had not used protomatter, no research at Space Station Regula I, no dead scientists, no dead Enterprise crewmen, no death of Captain Terrell or Khan or his followers. All those deaths, logically, are on David's hands.
26:45 they are sad because they lost their beloved Enterprise. A loyal friend and we must say a real character of the show. In theatres, many people cried at her destruction.
Yes they did. I was one of them.
So did I
McCoy's willingness to risk his life to save Spock really shows how the characters of Star Trek are connected on a personal level. First Spock gives up his life for his crew and then Kirk risks his career to save his friend and then McCoy selflessly is willing to lay down his life for his friend despite their constant bickering and conflicts. McCoy does care about Spock and he doesn't back down when it comes to saving him.
I always thought these 2 really bickered BECAUSE they cared for each other. Whenever the chips were down, one always came to the rescue of the other. That bickering isn't fooling anybody. These 2 are family.
DeForest Kelley - Bones - was often cast in supporting roles in TV westerns before Star Trek. And pretty much the same kind of character.
fun fact: it was in this movie that the klingon language was actually created. yes. it is an actual language and you can learn it. in fact, christopher lloyd says that he can still speak it fluently.
They did have some Klingon Language in the first movie, but it was mostly words just made up by Scotty's actor James Doohan and one of the movie's producers, with no intent on making it a fully fleshed out constructed language, unlike what the did in 3. As a side note, the actor who played Spock's dad Sarek, Mark Leonard, played a Klingon in The Motion Picture. When you take into account the TOS episode where he also played a Romulan, that meant he had the hat trick for playing the big recurring alien species from early Trek.
Duke University used to offer a Klingon Language course based on the Klingon Dictionary by Marc Okrand.
“Great Scott!”
(or however you say it in Klingon)
Lloyd is my favourite Klingon.
@@OneTrueVikingbard bIDuy'yaH.
May Your channel "LIVE LONG AND PROSPER". 🖖😌
Unfortunately Deforest Kelley was the first of the cast to pass away. Uhura was the most recent to pass away. Kirk, sulu, and chekov are all that remain
It blows my mind a bit that "Captain James T. Kirk" is a couple months shy of 93.
@@Vipre- he's up there in age and if I remember correctly he was the second eldest
And Shatner appears to have stopped ageing in his 60s.
Good to know.
I felt so happy to get to see him at one of the last conventions he did. 🖖
4:30 Fun fact this young actor talking to Shatner is Phil Morris. His dad was Greg Morris who starred on the original tv show Mission Impossible.
Phil and his sister Iona played two of the orphaned children on the original Star Trek episode “Miri”. Over the decades Phil has played parts in various Star Trek movies and tv shows.
He was the Guest Star in one of Voyager's best Episodes of the entire Series... "One Small Step".
@cleekmaker00 he also played one of the kids in the TOS episode Miri and a Jem'Hadar in DS9 episode Rocks and Shoals in which he performs one of my favorite scenes in all of Star Trek
Shout out to your Dad. It's the little things we all discover about a parent, that can bring great joy.
Im surprised the patron crew didnt recommend that you watch the episode "Journey to Babel " before this. It would help clear up Spock's family situation . Personally Id suggest before watching the next movie to watch "Journey to Babel" to see Spock's parents and perhaps also "Errand of Mercy" to get a handle on the Klingons who will show up again in the movies.
Excellent suggestion, and I agree. I found the exclusion of "Journey to Babel" to be an odd oversight from the start, as it's one of the most important episodes, particularly when one is planning on watching the films. "Errand of Mercy" is another good choice.
It really enhances the movies when you've watched ALL the episodes. Even the "bad" episodes have little bits of development that add to the fun of the movies.
Errand of Mercy is a AWESOME suggestion.
..and also watching Star Trek : Deep Space Nine episode - "Trials and Tribbulations" will explain why Klingons changed.
Cassie, I liked the callback when you thought the Vulcan priestess was T'Pau...
T'Pau was payed by Austrian actress Celia Lovsky. This was High Priestess T'Lar, played by the legendary Dame Judith Anderson (she was Memnet in "The Ten Commandments") .
There was a lot of star power in the Star Trek franchise in those days.
omg... that was memnet?
17:23 Yep. For the first time in Star Trek history, they recast somebody. Saavik was originally played by Kirstie Alley. For this and the next film, she's played by Robin Curtis.
Your Dad is awesome. I bet he was crying during the destruction of the Enterprise too - a lot of tears in the theater. It is always hard to watch this movie for the self destruct sequence.
Besides, "Don't call me tiny," the best line in the whole movie is: "That green blooded son of a bitch. It's his revenge for all those arguments he lost!" Runner ups, "How can you be deaf with ears like those!" and "I accept the danger. Hell of a time to ask."
I suggest you take a look at the episode from the original series, season three: "The Tholian Web." Spock puts everything on the line based upon his theories to save Kirk.
Star Trek debuted in September 1966 when I was 12. I've been a Star Trek fan ever since. I enjoyed the first three Star Trek movies but wasn't blown away by any of them. I enjoyed the Wrath of Khan maybe the most. In 1986 when I was 32, I was a young father of two kids, a boy and a girl and had a lovely wife. When I heard about the release of (Star Trek 4) Star Trek, The Journey Home, I was excited to see it but wasn't getting my hopes up. I can honestly say that Star Trek, The Journey Home is and always will be my favorite Star Trek movie!!! I have a feeling that you, Cassie, will enjoy it too, but you need to have your sister Carly with you because she may like it just as much! PS: It was directed by Spock, Leonard Nimoy!
During the scene where Enterprise is coming into Spacedock, there’s a shot where a bunch of people are looking at the ship and gaping at the battle damage. One of them is a woman in Starfleet uniform with curly red hair - this is actress Grace Lee Whitney, reprising her role as Janice Rand. You’d remember her from the original series episode “The Naked Time” as a blonde yeoman in red with a high-piled hairdo and a short skirt who brought a report or something to Captain Kirk - she appeared in 8 episodes of the first season.
And also The Motion Picture. She was the transport officer.
@@StargliderGamingI think she pops up a couple more times in the movies. I think even in Star Trek 6.
@@logandarklighter Indeedy, but Cassie hasn't got there yet ;)
FYI most the crew from TOS is now dead. Shatner, Konieg and Takei or Kirk, Chekov and Sulu are left. Many have ashes going to space with Gene and Mrs. Rodenberry.
Koenig. Walter.
Majel Barret/Roddenberry aka Nurse Chapeldied in 2008.
Jane Wyatt aka Amanda Grayson (Spock's mom) died in 2006
Mark Lenard aka Sarek (Spock's dad) died in 1996.
James Doohan aka Mr. Scott died in 2005.
Nicholls Nichols aka Uhura died in 2022.
DeForest Kelley aka Bones died in 1999.
Grace Whitney aka Yeoman Rand died in 2015
Honorable mention
Jeffrey Hunter aka capt. Pike died in 1969
And Leonard Nimoy, our beloved Mr. Spock, died in 2015.
@@wal6377 That makes me sad reading that list but happy to have been able to ride along with them for so many years.
Unlike George Takei, many of them died too soon to send out racist Tweets.
Leonard Nimoy (who directed Star Trek III: The Search for Spock), wanted Kirstie Alley to reprise the role of Saavik, but, according to Nimoy's autobiography I Am Spock, Alley's agent requested a large salary increase that the production simply couldn't afford.
Kirstie Alley on the other hand, claimed that she was offered less than Star Trek II to do more, and by then she also had far more clout. She deserved to be paid more, but Trek's movie pedigree was still not quite solidified so the budget wasn't there.
That's right. It was her manager that did that on his own without her permission. She had fully expected to come back and was shocked when she got replaced because the manager was greedy
I prefer Robin Curtis, she's A FAR better Vulcan! 🖖🏽
@@sean_b_drummer Robin Curtis was better in the role, but that was a crappy thing for Alley's manager to do.
@@theaikidoka
For sure, but I never really bought Alley as a Vulcan. I know she’s a fan favorite but Curtis brought the right gravitas to the role.
*Sarek: **_"But at what cost. Your ship, your son."_*
*Kirk: **_"If I hadn't tried, the cost would have been my soul."_*
That brief exchange always stuck with me.
I LOVE when Uhura says:And Admiral all my hopes❤
This movie was the first VHS tape that I ever owned. It was a present from my mom for my 11th (or 12th?) birthday in the mid 90s. Though she was generally not impressed with me watching any sorts of TV and strictly limited my TV sessions to around 5 hours per week (at that age), I was mind blown and unbelievably happy when she got me a VHS tape. Not just any VHS tape, but one of Star Trek. She even watched it with me because she wasn't sure if the movie was age appropriate. I still have a picture of that birthday, where my mom sits next to me while I unwrap the VHS tape. I am now in my 40s and have kids of my own. My mother is in her late 60s and has Alzheimer's. She is unable to walk, talk or move, and hasn't recognize anyone in almost 2 years. That picture of that moment is one of the most beautiful pictures I have of her and me together. We framed it and put it next to her bed. That is why to me, Star Trek The Search For Spock will always be associated with extremely beautiful memories.
Damn dude. You got me practically sobbing reading your comment. What the heck. I wasn't ready for this. Hope you both are doing alright. ❤
So many painful things can take our loved ones. The good memories are what keeps the love alive for them.
A great gift from a great mom. God bless.
Leonard Nimoy also directed Three Men and a Baby, a movie you'd probably like.
Thanks for going to this right away... Every other week is ok, but I hate waiting for months for the next film in a series!! LOL
Tell me about. Still waiting for the Mummy 3 and Terminator 3 and Alien 3
I actually feel like binging them is the wrong way to go but hey each to thier own
Voyage Home is coming next week too!
@timothywhitfield8785 B'whahahahahaha! Then you really would've hated it back when we had to wait years for the next film to be made.
Years left wondering what would happen in ST: III since we just saw Spock die. Is Saavik meant to take his place? Will Chekov return to the Enterprise or go off to a new ship like he was with Reliant? What about the rumor that Sulu will be Captain of a ship called Excelsior?
@@pauld6967 I'm a kid from the 70s and 80s.... I had to that for everything. Waiting between Star Wars was even worse then waiting for Star Trek.
I have been watching you and your sister for - OH MY GOD OVER A YEAR NOW - and I can honestly say you are in my top 3 reaction channels. First time commenting because the joy on your face was just as palpable as the distress you had during RANSOM. I didn't have you pegged for a STAR TREK person but you did say part of you starting the channel was to get away from the "chick flicks" ... I hope you continue into the final frontier because THE VOYAGE HOME starts right where this leaves off and tells a fish out of water story (some irony there) that's filled with a lot of humor. I remember a lot of fans not really liking it at first but since then it's become part of the "the even numbered Star Treks are the best". Can't wait!
Maltz is John Laroquette from Night Court -- when this show came out he was a HUGE star and almost on one noticed it was him under the makeup.
Remember, for those of us who watched it in the theater, we had to wait YEARS! It's funny to see you watch right after the last one.
those very long two years would have seemed even longer if we hadnt gotten return of the jedi to keep us going
Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan
Star Trek III: Search for Spock
Star Trek IV: the Voyage Home
Is one of cinema’s great movie trilogies, with Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and Rocky
You’re in for a treat
Best 6 plus hours ever.
I'm gonna say the LOTR Trilogy is the best.
I never realized that it is technically a trilogy, good call!
4 and 5 are the lesser weakest in the series. 6...is a great entry and perfect send off.
Except they are not in any way a trilogy. Neither is Rocky It has 6 movies in it's franchise. 9 IF you include Creed, but personally I let Creed stand as its own trilogy. Also despite your personal feelings on the matter, Star Wars is also no longer a trilogy.
You should watch, as others have said, the original series episode Journey to Babel, as that introduced Sarek (Spock's father) and Amanda (Spock's human mother). Same actor playing Sarek in this film. And will help you get a little more out of Star Trek 4.
He was a Romulan in an episode (can't remember the name) before that.
@@RobertSmith-js2kz balance of terror. 2nd best original series episode
@@0biwan7 Agreed. Well, maybe 1st best tied with The Doomsday Machine.
James Doohan who played Scotty on Star Trek is missing the middle finger on his right hand. It was shot off while participating in the D-Day invasion. He was shot a total of six times. If you watch closely he makes it so that you never see this on screen.
IIRC the finger was due to friendly fire.
You did twice in the series; "Catspaw" and "The Trouble With Tribbles."
Your smile when Spock remembered Jim, that was a thing of beauty. You really are loving these, and that passes for your audience.
I KNEW you couldn't wait!
I was excited when this came so quickly, she HAS to see what happens next!!! Imagine our suffering 3 years of speculation
Seeing this in theaters and when the Enterprise blew up, it brought tears to my eyes after so many years watching that ship. Looking forward to seeing you review part IV.
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Some of Shatner’s best acting is when he finds out his son is dead. Gives me chills every time.
Yes very heartbreaking.
That and Spock's death.
Kirk's reaction at the news of David's death is devastating. Shatner did an amazing job. I saw this in theaters and the audience was shocked. I heard people weeping when Kirk laments' "Klingon bastards killed my son". I think there were men in the audience who felt that 'as fathers' reacting to the death of their own children. It was soul crushing and a great performance by Shatner.
The self destruct codes are the same codes used in a TOS episode. Nice that they carried it over to the film.
Yes.
I cried when the enterprise blew up... It still hits me.
Right in the feels
"You didn't cry at the end of Titanic?! Do men even have feelings?" yeah didn't see me at Destruct-0.
@@blacktronpavel I've never seen Titanic. Chicflick.
The old model of the Enterprise (11 foot long) was not detailed enough to withstand inspection under HD cinema. So a new model was commisioned for the later films.
That is the only scene in the entire franchise that I cannot watch to this day.
A helpful tip for learning the Vulcan salute. If you really want to train your hands to be able to do it, take hair ties and tie them around each of the two pairs of fingers. That will keep your fingers together as you get used to holding the "V" shape and makes it easier to keep your fingers upright. I did this when I was younger and to this day, I am still able to hold the salute on both hands.
it also involves sticking the thumb out, which makes it a little easier to separate the middle fingers.
Let's not forget...
It was also similar to the Mork from Ork alien handshake greeting from the 70s sit-com Mork & Mindy with Robin Williams..
We all know they copied Spock's Vulcan salute and modified it. Nanoo nanoo.🖖
When I was 5 (37, soon), I could do it on my left hand easily, but it took me 6-7 years until I could do it on my right, and I trained my right eyebrow during my middle school days to go up without my left following.
Time wise, it's Kruge that plays Doc Brown. Christopher Lloyd is a man of many faces! You will really enjoy 4.
For long time Star Trek fans, since TOS, the first time watching ST III, it hurt to see the Enterprise blew up and disintegrate in the atmosphere of the planet. Yet it's fitting it served its final duty and bring forth a new beginning.
Damn, it still hurts to watch it.
My god bones. What have I done 😢
What you had to do. What you always do. Turn death into a fighting chance to live.@@RealRavi
Another fun thing about this movie is that it really laid the groundwork for what the Klingons would become going forward. From their look to their militaristic yet honor driven culture to solidifying the foundation of their language. They are one of the most beloved and fleshed out alien cultures in sci-fi and it owes a lot to this movie.
John Larroquette from night court , was the klingon left on the ship by himself
Cassie should watch the Star Trek episode, "Journey to Babel." Great back story regarding Spock's parents. Good action. Good drama. Quintessential Star Trek!
Why? Maybe because it's the logical thing to do. 😂
@@djlp2212 YES! 💯🖖
For my money, that's the very best episode of the original series.
@@njt2347 it's only 1 of 2 times we get to see Spock smile.
And a great murder mystery.
Thx Cassie for not having us wait so long for the next movie! It's a joy to watch your reaction!
Fun fact: the foreward to the klingon dictionary fondly attributes the federation's ability to translate the language to Maltz, the transport techincian turned prisoner of the incident. So thanks to Kirk for not killing him.
Maltz is played by John Larroquette. Not really relevant but I just wanted my nerd points.
In universe, Maltz's cooperation would've built upon the groundwork laid by Hoshi Sato, the linguist/communications officer aboard Captain Archer's Enterprise in the decade before the Federation was founded. Of course, none of that existed until the prequel series, Star Trek Enterprise, was made.
LOL did not know that...
@@saytr4 He approached Christopher Lloyd at the wrap party and told him it was nice working with him. Lloyd said, "Who are you?" Didn't recognize him at all without the make up. LOL
@@saytr4 WHAT?!?!
Brilliant having you along as a Trekkie Cassie! Great reaction as always. I love this film, an essay on how wonderful a character Shatner's Kirk is. He is just 100% loyalty to Spock and his crew here, and Shatners acting when David is killed always brings a lump to my throat. Enjoy 4, it is my favourite Star Trek film, perhaps one of my favourite films total. Sheer fun!
Fun fact not only Christopher loyd played a klingon, but also john laraquette, who is also known for playing Dan on night court. He joked around saying his name was waltz, first name chocolate.
Yup! He's the one that said , "Impressive. They can make a planet".
Maltz
There is a very Large list of actors who played in both Night Court and Star Trek. Infact Bibi Besch Carol Marcus played a very rich snooty lady in a episode. The most famous is Brent Spiner who played Bob Wheeler in Night Court and Lt Commander Data in Star Trek
@@karter95 Also Nana Visitor.
I loved how you changed the name of the mountain each time you said it, Cassie. So funny.
It became Mount Sulu at the end 😭😭 lol
@@jaymac7203 so good. cassie is the best lol
Mt. "Oh, my!"
The guy who plays Spock's father in this movie also plays Spock's father in the original series, and also in Star Trek: The Next Generation.
He's also the Romulan Commander in Balance of Terror 🙂
It took two movies to see Spock's final solution to the Kobayashi Maru test. What do you think of his ultimate solution?😁. Gotta add, you now need to see the third part of this story in the fourth movie. It's fun, lighthearted, and a nice conclusion to the trilogy.
"WHere are the nuclear wessels?"
I like the rogue crew with their individual styles and stuff. Doesn't happen often enough in my opinion, but gives them each a chance to shine a bit
It still hits me in the gut every time I see our precious Enterprise destroyed. I was quite young when this first came out, so I don’t know if I saw it in theaters or later at home, but I feel the loss every time I see it. I was aghast.
One of the key reasons I love the original movies, actions have consequences and the dramatic moments land because they're built up to and a genuine emotional sacrifice is made.
Could not agree more. Pretty much on-par with Spock dying (to me anyway).
I seriously had a temper tantrum where I was not willing to accept the destruction, I flipped out and my parents had to turn the tape off to calm me down...omg, I'm embarrassed about it now. "She! The ship is called She! Never lose you."
Kirk and Scotty both loved their baby, but in retrospect, better to have her go in this way than fall into enemy hands...too bad those photon torpedoes were so weak though, all they did was kill Kruge's pet Targ, animal!
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 I remember in the original series when they used to dial in multi-megaton yields on photon torpedoes. That sure changed throughout the course of the franchise!
Tears man, tears. The shot of them on Genesis watching the Enterprise fall across the sky. What a shot! The Enterprise was a CHARACTER. Its like a loved one died. I get choked up every time.
One of my all time favorite movie moments when they "steal the Enterprise!" The visuals and the music were awesome.
There is a clip of the whole "stealing the Enterprise" sequence on YT somewhere and the thing I remember most about it were two comments, one comment underneath that said "When you can turn 5 minutes of reversing a ship into a thing of beauty and tension, its a fantastic scene!" and the other "The most epic backing out the garage scene ever filmed!!!!!"
The music and visuals are exvellent and the cast realy sell the increasing tension as the Enterprise gets closer to the closed bay doors.
Imagine what it was like for people who grew up watching the original series, all the stuff in between that and the first movie, seeing the E's makeover but still feeling that connection, and then watching her explode and fall burning to the planet below. The crew were us in that scene.
As a fan it must've been jarring to see all the changes. Like people are freaking out about the new Harry Potter show and cast on Max. This franchise feels like an extreme version of that.
It almost broke my heart when I learned "Bones" had died in 1999. He is my favourite character in Star Trek. Grumpy, sarcastic and a good friend. I miss him.
Kruge should have remembered the Klingon proverb that says: "Only a fool fights in a burning house."
Don't feel bad if you can't do the Vulcan salute, Cassie. Not even Shatner can do it...when he does it in THIS movie, ("how many fingers am I holding up?") his fingers are glued or taped together. 🖖
According to Nimoy, they tied fishing line to his fingers.
This and "The Wrath of Khan" were among the very first Movies that I'd ever seen when I was a Kid, and while the former is considered (by most) to be The Best one of them all...I've always had a soft spot for "The Search for Spock."💝I genuinely Love-&-Respect this one because it gives Me everything that I want: another Fun-&-Epic Adventure with My Favorite Crew, it's both Sci-Fi as well as Spiritual too, and all of this was even Directed by Spock himself🖖(R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy)!
Maltz, the Klingon 2nd in command, was played by John Laroquette who was known for being the defense attorney on 80's NBC TV series Night Court, which just recently got rebooted.
Maltz…choi chu!!
Thanks, thought he looked familiar but didn't come up on IMDB.
@dudeusmaximus6793 It is a bit harder to recognize John as opposed to Chris as his makeup covers more of his face but there is no mistaking that voice. He may not get screen or IMDB credit...I haven't looked myself. Another little known credit for John is on the Robert Conrad led series Baa Baa Black Sheep, which I loved as a kid about WWII pilots in the South Pacific.
"It's not a very cute language"
Marc Okrand: "Qapla'!"
Much as I'm glad they got a language I still gotta smile because it sometimes makes me think space-elves and space-dwarves.
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@@jayeisenhardt1337 In the TOS era, I'd say Klingons are more like space-orcs lol. Tolkien would've probably had a heart attack if he heard their language! 😂🖖
Mt Sulu LOL
You should really watch more episodes from the original series. So many good ones. "The Naked Time", "A Piece of the Action", "Shore Leave", "The Conscience of the King", "Court Martial", "Journey to Babel", "Friday's Child", "Wolf in the Fold", "Patterns of Force", "The Enterprise Incident", "Day of the Dove", "For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky", "The Tholian Web",
I would say add Balance of Terror to get into the Romulan end....also an amazing episode (with Sarek before he became Sarek)
Nah, the best episodes were "Balance of Terror" and "Dooms Day Machine". :)
Glad you noticed that "Doc Brown" played Kruge. But what you missed was that Maltz, the last surviving Klingon, was played by John Larroquette - better known as prosecutor Dan Fielding on Night Court and the star of The John Larroquette Show. :)
Who?
In fact - Christopher Lloyd played Commander Kruge BEFORE he played Doc Brown! Which - for most of us in the early to mid 80s, meant we went straight from knowing him as "Reverend Jim" on the comedy sitcom "Taxi" to seeing him as the Klingon Kruge! You would not BELIEVE the bizarre intersection of referential jokes we came up with based on THAT mental whiplash back in the day! 🤣🤣🤣
@@logandarklighter He must have taken piano lessons. ;)
Larroquette also rejoined Shatner on Boston Legal which has some subtle Trek nods. 7 of 9 shows up as a client for an episode as well.
Your dad is clearly a gentleman and a scholar! 🖖
Agreed!
35:27 Mark! 11K Thumbs + Mine! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊
Notes: When asked what Maltz's first name might be, he speculated that it might be "Chocolate"! 😉
In an interview promoting The Search for Spock, Shatner and Nimoy were asked if they find Spock. Shatner answered, "Well, it would be an awful waste of time if we didn't."
When I saw this in the theater on opening weekend, the audience raised their right hands in the Vulcan salute during the replay of Spock's death scene. We were into it from the very start.
Love how Cassie called the Vulcan Mountain everything but mount Seleya. We even got a mount Sulu at one point 🤣🤣🤣.
I have a feeling that star trek 4 will be Cassie's favourite out of the OG franchise. Can't wait 🖖
I think she will love 6 better, close but better!
Glad she got to see Mount Sha Na Na.
@@jeffreyjeziorski1480 🤣👍
This film is notable for being the first appearance of the Klingon Bird of Prey.
They had Klingon Birds of Prey in Star Trek The Motion Picture, but ILM changed the model design for this film.
@@dan_hitchman007 No, the ones in the first film were K't'inga-class battlecruisers.
Additionally, the foes were first written to be Romulans instead of Klingons and the Bird of Prey was supposed to be one of their ships. In the rewrite the bad guys were changed to Klingons and the story was supposed to be the Bird of Prey was a Romulan ship that the Klingons stole.
@@BogeyTheBear The only in-movie aspect of this that survives is the Bird of Prey bridge in Star Trek III looking so un-Klingon (compared to what we saw in later movies and shows). One of the few things I will ding Star Trek IV for is totally remaking the Bird of Prey bridge in a more "Klingon style", something that makes no sense after watching STIII.
First appearance of the BOP, the Excelsior-class starship, and the Oberth-class as well.
I absolutely loved that you sang 'It's all coming back to me now." That was hilarious. Good on ya!
Who sang that?
@@ct6852Canadian legend Celine Dion.
It was Celine Dion...
😀😀😀
@@mattperiolatOhhhh that's right. I was having visions of Amy Grant and Dreamlover era Mariah for some reason. But t'was Canadian legend and Prime Minister Celine Dion.
The death of David was described to Shatner by Nimoy, who was directing that that moment was a thunderclap. He left Shatner alone for a few minutes to process it and we got that incredible scene.
Shatner's acting in that scene is so good. One of his finest moments!
You remind me so much of my late wife. Your sense of innocence, purity my God, you two could've been friends u had she lived.
Star Trek (original) has an interesting formulation, in that most (I think) consider Spock to not be the central character, but he's the most essential character. Kirk is clearly the central character, and he's good at his role, but what we really enjoy are the cast of reoccurring / support characters and their bits of screen time. I don't remember any other production - including all of those ensemble cast TV shows - where I felt quite this way. Like in this movie, I'm happy to see Sulu get a moment early on, where he flips a guard and destroys a control station, and to see Uhura get a couple lines as she beams the rest of the crew away. I cannot think of any other show where I thought it was cool to see the individual supporting actors doing the simple things the plot requires.
Star Trek 4 The Voyage Home takes it to another level, for support characters.
Yeah I'm new to Star Trek and the Spock/Kirk/Crew dynamic feels very very different from what I'm used to. But it's interesting.
These movies were a huge part of my childhood and I was hoping to see a reaction to them someday so this has been so much fun seeing these reactions. The Search for Spock was always my favourite one. Christopher Lloyd was so epic in it and you could tell he was having an absolute blast during the whole thing. Also of note the other Klingon, the one at the end that Kirk lied to, that was John Larroquette.
What to me is cool about this series of movies is that they begin where the last one left off. So I think you will like the next one, it has a lot more comedy and all the characters get to really shine. Loved your reaction.
There's big gaps between TMP and II, (15 years) and V and VI, (8-10) but otherwise true.
I always have a soft spot for 3. James Horner's music score is amazing. The enterprise stealing is the best sequence of all the films imo.
Phil Morris, the guy who plays the cadet Kirk talks to at the beginning, was in an episode of the original series as a child, and in the Voyager episode "One Small Step." He also played a Klingon and a Jem'Hadar in two different episodes of DS9.
Maltz is played by John Larroquette, who is famous from Night Court.
Robin Curtis, who plays Saavik in this movie, played a Vulcan in the TNG episode "Gambit." She was the second actress to portray Saavik, after Kirstie Alley in ST2. Both actresses made their acting debuts as this character.
Cassie, if you’re enjoying the journey so far, I think you’ll enjoy the rest of the movies, especially 4 and 6.