Sales Numbers Don't Equal Popularity
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- OKAY SORRY THIS VIDEO IS A WEEK LATE I STARTED PLAYING NEW WORLD AND THEN I GOT BUSY OOPSIES anyway in this video I talk about how people sometimes misconstrue what exactly sales numbers mean for a game, and that even if a game doesn't "sell well" it can still be insanely popular and have a massive online or in person following.
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Some games I mention in this video are PUBG, Minecraft, Wii Sports, Tetris, Grand Theft Auto V, Red Dead Redemption 2, Pokemon, Banjo Kazooie, GEX Enter the Gecko, and Croc and the Legend of the Gobbos. Unfortunately this video is NOT about Minecraft 1.16, Fortnite, Among Us, or Sora being reveal for Super Smash Bros Ultimate but that was pretty sick. WHEN YOU WALK AWAY, YOU DON'T HEAR ME SAY, PLEASE OH BABY DON'T GO, SIMPLE AND CLEAN, IS THE WAY THAT YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL TONIGHT - เกม
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Finally, Stryxo has talked about Gex
"This is like day dreaming in Eddie Murphy house"
- Gex
Did u say get I love gex
Someone said Gex?
didnt the guy who owns sonic jam talk about that
@@omgharemy8786 what about the guy who owns sonic 2 with a line
While I do agree that sales don't necessarily mean the game is going to remain relevant, I do think you're putting too much emphasis on gameplay alone. There are a ton of games that don't really aim for having exciting mechanics or interesting gameplay but are still seen as some of the best games out there. Visual novels and JRPGs are definitely the easiest example. Final Fantasy 7 is probably one of the most recognizable games out there but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who says that the gameplay is anything to write home about. I think what matters most is that the game does what it tries to do well. JRPGs focus on stories and characters, Metroidvanias and horror games on atmosphere and so on.
I’d agree. He mentioned RDR2 but I wouldn’t say RDR2 had good gameplay per se. The narrative and detail of the story was some of the best I’ve ever seen in any media, but the gameplay was a combination of go to place, shoot people, bring thing back, or go to place and shoot people. Still one of my favorite games tho
I'm here to say that FF7's gameplay slaps hard, you found me.
Turn based is litterally based fym ?
@@SomniaCE gotta agree with Somnia. Bad turn based combat is possible. FF7 had a good story, but it also had fun turn based gameplay. If it had bad gameplay, i wouldn’t have played it.
On the other hand, I couldn’t finish FF8 because imo the turn based combat was not fun. It’s story and visuals were better, but to me the gameplay was not fun, and that’s all it took to make me quit
That’s a bad opinion; if the gameplay sucks then the game generally just sucks as well. Graphic aren’t gonna make up for it. Look at vanguard.
I’ve always hated lazily made games sell amazingly like FIFA, and it always encourages companies to do less effort with a certain formula to always get the best result.
But FIFA is fun to play with friends, so it doesn't matter, as long as it's fun
cough Pokémon cough
@@farkasambrus5741 look man I can just pick up NBA or Fifa from 10 years ago, and just changed the roster according to the current lineup and still have fun.
same af.
Can also be said for youtubers, The size of the youtuber doesn't always equal how good the video is. You are the example.
Just in case he ever gets big in the future, I'll let everyone know that this comment was made when he was small, so it's a compliment!
Lol
@@Plide yeah, that comment is now a sick burn. xD
Well little timmy’s TH-cam channel doesn’t get any subs because the content is bad but for these types of videos it’s just that the algorithm doesn’t care for high quality content that takes long to make.. I am now going to chill about my very cool and epic chan-
large sales figures ≠ a game loved by all
source: origami king is the best-selling paper mario game
Wait really?! It sold more than the original two? That's kinda sad to hear
To be fair, it's at least better than the two games that came before it.
@@VeuTrox but at the same time, the switch has a bigger player base than the N64, and WAYY more than the GameCube, and the original appear Mario came out near the end of the N64’s lifecycle, so obviously oragami king has the advantage.
origami king on it's own is a great game, and it's not really a fair comparison for the older games since they were on less popular consoles. It's almost equivalent to the MW2 - Nintendogs comparison that stryxo specifically said was inaccurate in the video
Also: Ratchet and Clank 2016 is the best selling RaC game
makes me think of the assassins creed series, it slowly devolved over the years from a slow, calculated stealth based game to what is now basically an RPG with stealth elements
Infuriating part is the only reason it's called "Assassin's Creed" now is to sell copies
@@ahirbhattacharjee2352 hope the new one goes back to its roots, itd be fun to play a good assassins creed game
This is the second time today I have had people compare Gex and Persona. No joke, I was at class joking about rpgs and someone brought up how bad the movement in those games were and me and my friend just said “You know, you’re right Persona does need to be more like Gex!”
If they want to play a platformer RPG they ought to try Valkyrie Profile.
7:20 second hand nostalgia is weird, I had a strange reverence for crash and Spyro despite having never played those games or very little of them
If you are apart of this certain class of late 90s born zoomers who watched gaming content in the 2010s as a teenager, then you know full well that in retrospect your taste in retro games were largely second hand nostalgia. I know I fall into this category.
Spending alot of your youth living in the nostalgia of another generation was pretty something. It actually freaked me out to start seeing nostalgia baiting rereleases start showing up that were from my childhood, not the millennials
That final point on gameplay being the most important part of a game is really interesting. I agree with the statement, but there’s one really weird exception, and that’s with Persona 3
Most people I’ve seen talk about the game say that it’s REALLY bad (gameplay wise) but the story is what carries it, and people certainly haven’t forgotten about it
Maybe it’s because it paved the way for future persona games to refine and almost perfect the mechanics in 3, or maybe the fun characters with the added excellent story, but I find it interesting that there are some very rare cases where despite awful gameplay, some games can still stay in people’s minds
I find that almost a little weird, As a person whose played Persona 5 twice (not the rerelease but the og) I think it is one of the best rpgs gameplay wise that Ive ever played, while I prefer the predecessors because of their story and characters, in fact from what ive seen I thought that was the generally agreed upon in the Persona community is that 5's gameplay tops most rpgs in terms of turn based combat.
The gameplay IS the game, if the gameplay is bad but you like the story, you DONT like the game, just the story
@@Helperbot-2000 that’s not really true. The story was inter grated and presented by the game. Gameplay is not the whole game just the way one gets to experience and interact with it
@@Helperbot-2000 Not true just because I find the gameplay of NieR replicant (I just dont like Daddy nier as mutch so of you go nier Gestalt) meh at best dosent mean I dont think its one of the best videogames out there due to the Story and how it uses its Medium to Tell its Story
@@KatZEdition sure its integrated into the game, but its separate from the gameplay unless you have something like half life where the story happens around you, not in cutscenes and such. imagine if fallout 3 had a good story, then it would be the story beeing good and the game itself complete shit. now, fallout 3 has a dogshit story because its a terrible game but you get what i mean
Don't worry Stryxo, you present videos just as well as ani :)
I don’t think it’s fair to put everything exclusively on gameplay, in particular I think things like story do impact a game and how people think of it especially in cases like the telltale games or visual novels like doki doki literature club where it’s almost exclusively the story carrying it and the actual gameplay is barely present
In VN navigating through the story is the gameplay.
@@Gnidel yes but I don’t think the gameplay of clicking through screens and if you’re lucky clicking between two choices is what’s selling the game the game as much as it is the story, characters, and the potential impact of such choices
yeah Undertale and The Last Of Us only became popular due to their stories
i guess you could argue that looking through the log files is a gameplay mechanic but even that is a bit of a stretch
The gameplay is the game
If u didn't like the gameplay but liked the story then you might as well watch the anime adaptation or something
Is what I would have said before playing trails
I don't usually watch videos about games like this but Stryxo's style really got me hooked, great content pal
In defence of Croc, the soundtrack was really good, I used to play Croc 2 and still listen to that soundtrack while working sometimes
I think the reason, what sales numbers and popularity isn’t just because of gameplay, it’s depends how dedicated the fanbase is. Like the banjo one is very interesting because they have it’s really die hard fans who have no problem vocally expressing how good the game. But that can apply to every game. But in the age of social media. It really dictates that popularity really applies vocal majority. It’s pretty important to distinguish more talked about a game is doesn’t always equal good. Otherwise, among us is best game ever by that definition.
Love the video! People really need to talk about these things and for some reason you are the only one.
Dangit I still can’t escape that Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts hate, even in an unrelated video, one of these days I’ll find it. The second Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts fan
Edit: just wanted to say it happened again on a hello neighbour video, bruh
i believe in you man there’s gotta be someone else out there
Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts is an odd case where it get's unfair hate that's sort of understandable, the biggest problem with that game is that it was made and marketed as "Banjo threeie" or as the next big Banjo Kazooie 3d platforming adventure and it came out after fans waited 8 years for banjo 3, that's the main reason why Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts get's so much hate even though the game is honestly quite fun In my opinion.
Maybe someday people who shit on the game can give it a proper shot without the hate glasses on and play it for what it is rather for what it isn't.
im here
Nuts and Bolts is a good game and the Jontron jokes are done to death. Also the misconceptions about Microsoft being the big bad evil villains behind the game is absolutely fucking stupid and I wish people stopped saying that.
@@Wahaller Jontron jokes?
Finally, you have talked about Croc
Tetris position on the Best Selling games of all time is unfair, as they are counting the WHOLE ENTIRE FRANCHISE as ONE GAME, which couldn't be further from the truth i bet crap like Tetris 2 is being counted as the same game
Weeb
I love these videos so much. Very well made
6:55
Interestingly in Poland (where I live) nearly nobody heard about Banjo Kazooie, but Croc was popular there.
Thankyou for using the Banjo Kazooie music, that fucking banjo backing track is gonna be stuck in my head for a week now. I do recommend playing it yourself though, it's a fun game!
I love it, good job Stryxo
Can’t wait for your channel to grow
keep up the good work
About time, im gonna love this
the title explains the entire video. Love that
Waiting on the Gex review now
Congratulations on 20k!
Thank you!
Reminder that PUBG was a Game of the Year nominees in 2017 next to Horizen Zero Dawn Mario Odyssey Breath of the Wild and Persona 5
Sales Numbers Don't Equal Popularity
pokemon:mission failed succesfully
Croc was awesome!
Congrats on 20k! :D
thanks!
"This is like an all-nighter at Richard Simmons' house."
That outro will never get old.
You should really give nuts and bolts a chance. I remember loving that game in 1st grade, which did mean that I've never played the original games, but it was a genuinely fun game.
Great vid
damn how does stryxo keep making such good videos on top of editing ani's videos, what a king
this video was way before MWII (2022) and this entire video perfectly describes that game
Rockstar's open world games prove that you don't need compelling gameplay for your game to be successful or even popular.
But the games are still fun to play, they may not have the best gameplay, but exploration is fun and the locations varied, compare that to some games where you hate playing it, to the point where you would rather just watch a video on the story than play the game, then the gameplay just isn't manageable, it isn't just janky, it's unplayable
@@PO1PLE I don't think they're fun to play. They're fun to watch, listen to and appreciate them on a technical level but what you do in the game is just as if not more tedious than your typical Ubisoft open world game. The presentation fools people into believing they're revolutionary masterpieces.
@@korvo3427 that may be your opinion, but exploring is fun to me, and whole I don't think their gameplay is anything revolutionary, their worlds sure are
7:00 Croc: Legend of the Gobbos is the only one of the two I have played, and it's a really big part of my childhood! When I was little Croc was *the* game I was playing.
And Croc 2 is a joke.
Gex series outselling the Persona blew my mind.
5:35 why do I suddenly hear a whole lot about Gex everywhere lmao
I keep forgetting that these videos don't have six figure view counts, this channel is such a gem and produces higher quality content than most multi-million subscriber channels. I'm excited to be able to say that I was here at 30k.
I wanted to buy hotline majami today and now i saw it in this video . It's time to play it :D
Even though I’ve never played persona I love the music and the fact that you can beat death(end boss I believe) by attacking him during flu season
5:21 Nah, that would be Panzer Dragoon Saga HANDS DOWN! Just for that twist alone is this one of THE best JRPGs in existence.
Finally stryxo is here
Your voice sounds so nice.. One more youtuber to read me bedtime stories
Your such a good TH-camr you deserve 1m
Please check out the persona or smt series.
Persona is easier to start with so if you’re a beginner play 4 and 5 for easier gameplay and 2 (IS and EP) and 3 for the better stories.
I love Persona 1 but I cannot recommend it to beginners.
If you’d rather start with smt, start with 3 or 4. I enjoy the older smt games but they’re a bit difficult
Styxo can you also do a vid on how search popularity doesn't mean how popular a game itself is
Great vid btw
great video
that was the first time I heard anything about a Tetris released by EA
now i feel sad for my friend who is still a pubg addict
I agree that gameplay matters more than most other factors, but i think that a really good story is fun in and of itself, that can make even a dull game more fun
Dude I'm class, but i need to watch this just cause YES
I fucking start crying tears of joy when I hear the banjo kazooie theme
Fnaf is a series with gameplay that has never achieved very high heights as far as gameplay is concerned, but it has still lasted eight years.
this video feels so aimed
The only reason some games sell well is because of the huge hype around the game at the time, spiking sales.
last time i heard about PUBG was in this video.
I like how you always use Sonic music in your background
The Last of Us Part 2 has dropped in sales pretty quickly, yet people still play it because how fun it actually is. We didn't realize it at the time because of all the drama, but if you watch some videos you can see how creative people get with the combat.
This video title is gonna get the ponies mad
While you are correct, I will still use Gex's sales numbers as an opportunity to beg for a modern remake or sequel because nostalgia go brrr
Good video
7:00 I put $100 on at least 80% of the people watching right now never hearing about the game on the right.
Jokes on you, I've never played Banjo Kazooie and have actually beat Croc. Its an absolute relic of early 3D gaming, and has stiff controls. But the pacing and level design are actually pretty good. Not to mention the music which is top notch. However I do agree that more people know of Banjo Kazooie than Croc by a large margin.
Also the possibility of Mario 64 being inadvertently inspired by it when Argonaut gave pitch to Nintendo of a 3D platformer starring Yoshi either during Mario 64's development or before it is always an interesting tidbit.
The only thing I remember about PUBG was that time PewDiePie went on that bridge
as a game dev I must say enforcing your point that if a new device comes up the first games that comes there sell very well. Like there was people geting rich with smarthphones games on hangman game. its outsold a lot of advanced games sold on steam today. Is simply offer and demand. Gex is a example. Sold well because when it launched n64 didn't had much games available actualy. Popularity is about coming first and coming with the popular devices, marketing and all that stuff. Quality is just one aspect of marketing
2:46 saying that the game was released "15" times is I would say misleading. Porting a game to a new console is hardly something of note, I would argue that the original release, the release of special edition, anniversary edition, and the VR editions are the only real "releases" of the game, everything else is ports. Especially counting the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 releases as three different releases despite all happening on the same day is ridiculous. Skyrim has been released a ridiculous number of times, but that ridiculous number is three or four. Not 15.
Re-realasing the same game 4 times is still way too much, especially when you charge $60 every time
@@aagp2 In that case they only re-released the game three times because Anniversary Edition was a 20$ upgrade. Not to mention that Special Edition was free for PC users, though Bethesda still left console players out to dry.
Ayy croc to smash 2022
I'd say that story AND gameplay are both equally important. Sometimes it is handled poorly where gameplay and story do not service each other (like the last of us franchise, haven't finished TLOU2 yet, but I'm getting there) where the story has a more serious tone, but is undermined by itself mindless, outdated gameplay. But a game like Portal manages to intertwine its gameplay and story, both had the same tones and were paired for each other.
homeboy made up his own definition to fit his video bruh
The US isn't the only market for video games, to answer the question about PUBG
Finally someone says what I've been thinking for awhile.
I never heard about banjo kazooi till internet was mainstream. Croc was bigger thing in my country. And croc history is interesting with how it developed.
Gameplay isn’t the only thing that matters, nor is it necessarily the most important aspect. It depends what the developer wants to achieve.
I was born in 94 and hearing about Gex and Croc was something I least expected dude, no clue
5:37 bruh i freaking jumped when I saw that LMFAO
About story being second to gameplay: not always! Games like Oneshot have just kinda alright gameplay but more than make up for it in the story department.
Interesting to see, good video. Did you go to filmschool or are you all selftought?
I have heard of and played croc but that was because my parents used to play it.
What is the game at 4:19? I've been digging and can't find the name for the life of me
Un ironically playing Skyrim right now…
*Surprised pikachu face*
Who’s here after MW2 (2022) was the most sold COD ever.
I think you meant Popularity ≠ Good Game because having high sales does indeed mean that high amounts of people have bought the game and therefore know about it
5:10 You know I think that's what confuses me about files sometimes. I can't tell if the unexpected videos part # is a joke or not. That very well could just be the name of the file, or a joke.
I LOVE GEX
I really hope you didn't call the smt series a spinoff of persona.
He didn't
Awesome 👍
I guess I'm the outlier then, because I grew up with the PC version of Croc and didn't know that Banjo-Kazooie even existed until I was an adult despite owning an N64
Croc being more recognizable is also normal in Poland. Back then, barely anyone actually owned a N64, while PC was the most prominent platform. Also, back in 2000, Croc was released in a video game magazine, which further increased the popularity.
Sales figures definitely don't equal quality. The best-selling Ratchet and Clank game is the PS4 remake, which is inferior to the PS2 original in basically every conceivable way. The best selling Pokémon games are Red/Blue/Green, which are inferior in basically every conceivable way to their own GBA remakes.
Every conceivable way except graphics and performance, because the PS2 had graphics that made the N64 jealous.
Liked, shared and commented :)
Could you do a video on the CTR game?
Something that is popular in my opinion is just something enjoyed by a massive amount of people. It can be a fad, or it can be a legendary piece of art. Popularity doesn't speak to quality either. I don't think popularity covers sales numbers either. Free to Play games are also very popular and also exist. Candy Crush, Fortnite and League of Legends are some of the most popular games of all time. These are just facts. Popularity doesn't speak to quality in the slightest. There is a massive difference between popularity and quality and I think it's weird to somehow try to change the definition of popularity when you could have simply changed the argument a little to make it make sense. "Sales Numbers Don't Equal Quality" is just as punchy and more accurately describes what you're trying to say.
People like what they like believe it or not.
He talked about eh most realistic graphics, while playing Minecraft.
Remember me at 100k
Your underrated btw
U had banjo kazioe on my old x box 1