Fat Joe Verzuz Ja Rule Recap | The Joe Budden Podcast
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For anyone who thought Ja was going to lose this, they just had amnesia. Ja and Murder Inc where at the top of New York on their hot streak.
No you meant Murder Inc were at top of the Hiphop game period
@@kevincampbell4708 That's implied, NY was the epicentre of hip hop at the time.
@@kevincampbell4708 Agree👍.
Agreed
Ja rule was drake before drake. He was rapping, he crooning, he was making hits with gangsters and making classics with r&b legends. Dude was DEEP in his bag in the early 2000's
Him and Drake are nothing alike lol. Sure Ja Rule use to sing on tracks but that doesn't mean him and Drake style is the same
@@rodneyscott5450 Ja Rule >>> Drake...
Of course drake and Ja ain’t the same but Ja was the one who took the hit for every rapper to be cool n sing including 50
Nah PHONTE and PM DAWN was Drake before Drake, matter of fact, all Drake is nothing more than PHONTE + PM DAWN. lol. I get what you sayin tho
@@toddmaek5436 Drake style hasn't been like Phonte's since Comeback Season in 2007. From So Far Gone to CLB Drake has sounded nothing like Phonte
Let's face it. This Verzuz was a Ja Rule comeback concert🤷
I hope that this leads to a bit of a revival from Ja Rule. I'm not gonna lie, he was one of my favorite artists in the 2000s. His entire discography is still in my phone and in my mp3's on my computer. I listen to his music shamelessly everywhere.
I’m not a super fan but I was never a fan of the joking on him . Like I remember when that Milwaukee thing happened and everybody went straight to cookin him and I jus thought it was corny
I only like venni vetti vichi that's it. Afterwards he turned into a tupac wannabe. I was glad 50 crushed him.
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when we gon get the nas wins over jay z battle
@@Jaychilled what happened in Milwaukee 👀
Ja rule got that W. Y’all clown Ja Rule cause of the whole 50 Cent shit. He sold like 30 mil worldwide. Put some respek on his name
Fuck 50 ...Ja deffo deserves his credit
Fat Joe lost and got to cocky 😂 he was trying to do what Jadakiss did and he couldn't pulled it off! Fat Joe playlist was terrible but JaRule killed it and had his shit together!
YEAH:(.
Ja lucky Fat Joe dont got a Song with 50 it would have been over lol
@@thatdrakeSteve he does have a song with 50 it's a dj kay slay joint called Free
love Joe, but you right his war tactics were a lil off
Ja Rule wrote some of his hits so idk why RAT JOE PLAYED HIM SELF
Why would you think Fat Joe would win against Ja Rule
Joe really didn’t do his own catalog any service. He may not have as many hits as Ja, but he does have better songs than what he played
NY dudes view music different bruh. For better or for worse 😂
Ja rule told Joe, yo u forgot I'm part of the trio? That trio of him DMX and hov went on to be the most successful in NY history
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💯 FACTS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A ALBUM TOGETHER SUPPOSEDLY CALLED MURDER INC IF IM NOT MISTAKEN
yea, its the real murder inc planned by Irv Gotti with hova x and ja
@@Bsfnelz20 Hov and DMX ruined it because they couldn’t get along and didn’t respect Ja as being in their level yet
The first Triangle Offense
Ja rule wrote What’s Love. Case closed.
And that's one of Joe's biggest hits lol
@@abelanc1090 I bump that in my oldies playlist , it was a hit, it got played every day when it came out
Ja Rule might not be the most lyrical emcee, but he's a helluva performer, big projection, and hella hits. Great music with excellent features. This is a guy who was once one of the BIG THREE of New York in the late 90's, early 2000's (Jay Z, DMX, Ja Rule).
He really doesn't get his credit/flowers enough, so it's great that this Verzuz exists to put spotlight these greats.
And shout out to Fat Joe as well, he's another emcee who is heavily slept on, great to see him up there doing his thing as well.
Ja actually is lyrical, he didn't feature with the big 3 for no reason. If you listen to his album cuts and not just the hits, you'll hear his real rhymes. Shit, even his big hits Ja did not slouch on the pen at all, especially compared to how low the bar is now for lyrics in rap big hits
@@soichampion88 I agree people sleep on ja when it comes to lyrics his not top tier but he has lyrics when he wants to his just went the money route to do the singing rap route
His lyrics are lo key underrated..he has a flow and cadence ..and he is even an old school spitter..listen to his first Album venni vetti vecci
You here ja new York verse!he had bars too
Stop the cap 🧢 lyrical Ja is insane lyrics ask most rappers in the early 2000 he wrote there shit . 💯💯 ja my top 5 New York
Why do we care what kids think of Ja Rule?
Why do we care about what these kids think about ANY rapper who was out during our time ? I’ve never been a Fat Joe or Ja fan, but I knew Ja was taking this one home .
Why do we care what kids think about anything lol
@@hellojupiter.mynameiswine.8116 exactly !
But it's really not the kids...it was US...it was OUR generation...we turned our backs on Ja after 50...that's why he fell off...
kids are the customers.
@@dexter-jy3yk Kids aren’t JA RULE’S customer 🙄
Fat Joe lost when he decided he was going to try to be jadakiss instead of Fat Joe
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Ja Rule is not a slouch yall trippin he had the 2000s on lock!
Stop it.. dipset, the south, Jay z , ludacris, etc had the 2000s on lock
More like 2000-late 2002. And on lock pop/commercially. Basically he was Drake for like 2 and a half years.
@@ArtisanWindchimes yea i agree with that
@@ArtisanWindchimes no he wasn’t .. you guys are delusional lmaoooo
@@swazie8455 yea rocafella was doing it. But ja had hits for the ladies which clearly im part of that demographic lol
Ja Rule killed that versus. It was like Ja was back.
JA got cocky back in the Day and ruined himself going at 50, Dre and Em
@@thatdrakeSteve In all honesty though, why wouldn’t he think he could? He was way bigger a star than them at that time. 50 was new & unknown/unproven, and Em & Dre were still building/rebuilding their reputations. Ja was the third biggest act on Def Jam behind Jay & DMX, so really the cards were stacked in his favor. The only thing he underestimated was the magnitude of Em’s star power, when combined w/ 50’s street cred, & Dre’s ability to make hits.
@@Messiah_Black that Fame is a monster
@@thatdrakeSteve Yeah, but if you take Em out the equation, 50 never would’ve had the platform to reach Ja Rule’s level (and I say this as a 50 fan who never rocked w/ JaRule). 50 had the streets, but Ja had the mainstream crossover audience at that point.
@@thatdrakeSteve he showed he’s a better performer than fif
Damn they had they money on Joe lol even if Ja had played his hits without the PERFECT EXECUTION Ja still woulda won
Nah execution and stage presence matters. Winning verzuz is about more than just having hits.
@@NMAC27 It matters but not between Joe and Ja, maybe someone else Vs Ja, but with Joe it would've been an easy win regardless. Joe does not have as much hits as ja, not even songs that'll really make u bop. At one point ja was just sitting under the DJ booth letting the crown do it's thing! It was Effortless going against Joe. Like I said before, without the PERFECT EXECUTION Ja still had it in the bag effortlessly And it would be hard for anyone to go against Ja as stated by mostly everybody nobody wanted to go against him because his hits alone would've got the job done. I'm talking about Ja specifically not anyone else doing a verses! His hits alone gets the job done
I don't understand anybody picking Fat Joe over JaRule in terms of hits or performance. 🤷🏿♀️
Ja needs his roses..
YES 👏🏾!!!
Ja got hits, he can rap and sing them and he knows the words to all of them.
He just yelling
Nelly and drake took his style
I don’t see how i get it ja has melodic flow and harmonizes but drake actually sings btw ja rule music is a lot more hardcore then drakes or Nelly
Ja rule is getting the flowers he should have gotten a decade and a half ago when he was at his hottest moment but somehow a media machine told a bunch of people what he wasn't those people chose to believe that and that always baffled me
HYFR!!! 🔥🔥🔥
The dude was going multiple times platinum. How many more flowers could we have given him? Had ja rule ignored 50 cents he would still be rolling.
@@christianrapper ignoring 50 is what got Ja in trouble. Of course he was acknowledge at his time but over time Ja had become a punchline. Hell...think about the amount of people who picked Joe for this battle. Ja had a 4 yr run with 3 platinum albums with singles and features and people was saying he was going to get killed. People don't need to like the man or his music but u HAVE to respect his resume and ALOT of people don't.
@@christianrapper Ja Rule messed up going at the two hottest back then, Em and 50, and then Dre too.
That Hail Mary Remix Diss track is what did it. Busta, Eminem and 50 all going at him
This was the best recap of Verzuz 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 everyone kept it 💯
Ja Rule took it back to the early 2000's.
Y’all gotta give the younger generation more credit I’m 23 and I knew all them ja rule records for the most part and I’m from California he clearly won it wasn’t even a competition
Cali loves Ja. He blew up in cali before anywhere else.
I think Joe Budden was way off..fat joes records outside of lean back make it rain n all the way up r not on ja rules hit record level
Absolutely
There is definitely a lot of young fans of Ja Rule. I see them in comments all the time, teenagers and they love his music. And it's because Ja's music is timeless and classics. My son is 15 and he loves Rule.
Much better assessment here, as opposed to what was being said on Hot 97 breakdown. Thanks for keeping it real. Real hip hop fans know the impact Ja and Murda Inc had on the industry. 💪🏾💪🏾
Hot 97 was horrible
@@alexandermitchell759, word. I was very disappointed although I shouldn't have been. Too many fake people out here.
Wack97 are frauds. Clowns.
The amount of Ja Rule hate they was spewing was disgusting. They're the "kids" that was in the comments hating Rule.
50 can't handle ja in versuz that's why he don't wanna do it!!!
RIGHT!!!
U crazy wtf he play back down and ya life on the line to start it off 😂 then play his other hits
it looked like when Ja Rule said that he had to battle the WHOLE TSquad, Remy Ma didnt even want to really perform the hits anymore. SAVE EM REM!!! that had me ROLLIN!!! then bust out with the "between me and you" hit song right after that was phenomenal!!
Ja Rule should’ve played “Time To Build” track with him, Mic Geronimo, Jay Z and DMX! That track was hard!
Or story to tell, or edub and Ja, and just the whole Venni Vetti Vecci album
@@infamousbarz1271 I wanted story to tell so bad
Fact that Joe preplanned Nelly to come on stage for him showed he knew he didn't stand a chance against Ja, period.
Just imagine Ja bring out Dru Hill..
Ja Rule was Drake before it was cool
Facts
Facts!!!!!
Yep
📠
Ja Rule should’ve played Kill Em All with Jay-Z, Dial M for Murda with CamRon and Murda 4 Life with Memphis Bleek 🔥🔥🔥
Nah his R.Kelly record with Ashanti would have killed it.
@@berlingray8058 I was waiting on them to play that but I understand why
PPL say Fat Joe left records on the table so did Ja. Ja was rebuttal KING
Kill em all and caught up was the only two records I was surprised he didn’t play. He didn’t need to do that destiny outro tune
Ja Rule is the beast he killed it🙌🙌🔥, Joe crack doesn't have enough hits for Ja 🙅
The was a great assessment of that Verzuz battle and accurate, in my opinion.. 💯💯
I AGREE.
Hop off his vienna sausage
That's why I laughed when they picked fat joe to win I had to come back just to here then double back after that jarule beat down 😅
Go saints we gotta do better then week 2 though
People talk about bad Ja rule cause he lost a rap beef. 2pac made the greatest diss track of all time and biggie it's still biggie
Dipset loved fat joe’s performance. It took the heat off of them. Lol
Lol.
I can hear the beginning of the beat and know the ja rule song. With fat joe I gotta listen to 30 seconds of most of his songs to actually remember it. Ja rule hits are just to massive to beat him.
I don't care what anyone says. Venni Vetti Vecci is amazing and has stayed in my rotation ever since I heard that Bass Drop on Lets Ride. He got killed by 50 an EM but that album has never left my rotation.
I'm with you on that. I feel like he didn't play anything from his first album
Its Feds fifty n Em were not problem . The feds took everything that he couldn't fight back..
@@masibulelempuqa815 yea kinda hard to record records when the feds have all your assets and froze your money.
I can’t believe folks who would choose fat Joe..ja rule has had bigger hits n he performs yr around so he has a better idea of how to perform n what to perform
Iv been routing for ja rule ever since I started taking music seriously in terms of listening to albums. Am 25 years old !!!! And I knew Ja had this one, his songs rock Crowds crazy !! Am happy for Rule. His price deffo went up. Ja the OG with a 21 year old’s energy on stage, and just to add am the youngest of 4. All my siblings were born in the 80s, I was hearing ja and Ashanti since I was like 5. Iv been listening to albums since 19 …. Am telling you, you don’t have to pat me on the back or any of that corny shit but trust me idc about the 50 beef. Am not these fickle fans I give credit where it’s due. Ja killed it
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Love❤
You are sooo correct.
Islam means Peace! And you spreading Peace with that comment fam. Word
@@masibulelempuqa815 ❤️
Bruh
Ja is a top tier performer.
Plus he was wit x and jigga.
A Emcee at heart.
Nelly was sounding like the Ying Yang twins
Nelly sounds like he smoke 25 backwoods before he came out..
Yea Remy doing that Pun verse was amazing. That was not easy at all
The best versus battle Yet!
Ja came out the time capsule, on this one.
The very first time I heard ja and Joe was going to be doing a verzuz battle....first thing i said was "ja going to wash him"
Who wouldn't know that.
Right ✅.
VICTORY FOR THE RULE, BABY!!!!🏅🥇🎖️
Well earned win for Ja Rule. Finally some respect. ☺️😉
Clap Back is a great record and it was great then. The problem is the album wasn't cultivated enough. He needed another club banger, another top 100 worthy R&B fused track to triple down on what got him there, and land a big feature
Blood in my eye was never supposed to be an album, Ja wanted to put it out as a mixtape just to get everything off his chest that he hadn't been able to because of the feds. But def jam said NOOO WAY Ja, you're not about to put out all that material for free when you're def jams biggest artist, make it an album.
But Ja's next album R.U.L.E was back to Ja Rule at his best, hit after hit and that album sold 1.5 million worldwide. People sleep on that album but every single song is 🔥
Had it came out 2 years earlier it would've been huge and considered a masterpiece.
@@youtubeaccount458 The Feds disrupted errtyn in the Inc..
@@maleekgeechi7960 yup
Fat Joe tried his hardest. And just like his career, his hardest wasn't enough.
Super facts
I have always been a Ja Rule fan. Never judge a book by it cover
Am I the only one who thought "Furious" was a hard ass Ja track, that most definitely should've been included at some point? Not sure why that track gets overlooked all the time.
Hell yeah 💯
me too
Camr forget life ain't a game
Nobody:
Ice: “That’s what I was saying”
“That’s what I been said”
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I disagree with Joe Budden. In order for Fat Joe to make changes on the fly he actually needed enough hits to do that.
But I do agree with the comment he made about Chris Gotti. He wasn't overhyped but that's because he didn't have to be...the team knew what they had.
This was a "BS" verzuz from the start & even though "Fat Joe" tried to "Lox" his way through the battle he admitted that he had no chance towards the end of the event on top of the "PREPRODUCTION" in this verzuz was beyond telling... No disrespect to "Fat Joe" but he's never been in any top artist conversations for a reason & he's arguably the worst rapper on "Terror Squad."
Precisely. His bars don’t hit anywhere near Jada’s but he thought because he may have more “street cred” that it was gonna be a blow out. Jada is in Top 5 Dead or Alive convos, Fat Joe has neverrrrr been that. People try to sleep but Ja is legendary. The run he had was amazing and he proved it.
@@axa5005 ~ Yes Ja had a great run but I don't subscribe to fake street niggas, that's just me. The songs for the ladies are cool but all of that "IT'S MURDER" bs is cringe. Non of his street joints hit & that says a lot. Ja is basically a pop star that ran into a nasty machine in 50 Cent, Eminem & Jimmy Iovine = Career Over!
@@karegairegi9071 it doesn’t matter if you subscribe to fake street niggas or not. It was a competition of songs and hits and Ja won. It wasn’t a battle of who’s the toughest or how many bodies either of them got.
@@axa5005 true..
@@axa5005 ~ OMG how did that go over your head?
I'm not talking about verzuz, I'm talking about my personal opinion of Ja Rule image as an artist.
Is it safe to say that you're a female?
I agree with ice for the first time ever, Nelly being there and performing got on my nerves it was unnecessary for their battle.
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My girl 21 and she love them ja rule records. The woman under 30 definitely love them songs
it was a dope verses....i respect n enjoy both ja n joe but Ja was fire.....watching from KENYA
JaRule is fire 🔥 give him his props!!
Nelly vs Ja would have been better if we weren’t getting Ja vs 50. Give me the two singing rapping dudes from that era. What. Dilemma vs Put it on Me or always on time, country grammar vs New York. Hot in herre vs I’m Real. Give me. Give me.
It would have been amazing
That would have been crazy Nelly lik the ja clone people don't realized that they both got the rap shit but then got the singing rap shit
Then who vs Luda?
@@timothycurry2167 Luda vs TI or Luda vs Busta
@@ramierecollins891 I would have lost my shit if Nelly and Kelly did Dilemma then Ja and Ashanti did Always on Time
I am still mad that ja rule ruined his own career by listening to 50 cents. He should have continued doing his thing.
don't put it on Ja Rule he did what he was supposed to do, he clapped back, it was on y'all.
@@spliffspark4918 that was on him. His fan base wasn’t worried about 50 cents. Ja rule was mainstream. His fans weren’t worried about 50 cents. Mainstream fans weren’t aware of 50 cents.
When the Feds came for Murda Inc they couldn't put out music. That's what really put an end to his career. 50 cent and them did damage but it wasn't over over til the Feds freezed all their assets
@@StayAlert_StayAlive I thought about that too.
@@spliffspark4918 JA went at Eminem and Dre for no Reason that was a big mistake
Love Joe’s commentary on Verzuz battles
JA VS 50 would have been a madness!!! But well worthwhile!
I mean fuck a competition, these are two of the many artists from my childhood. I was a 50 fan over Ja and Joe, but I owned that Ja Rule the last temptation album, I loved that shit. Great nostalgic moment.
great show! guys! Yes, Ja killed it!
Joe Budden is literally always wrong when it comes to Versuz 😂😂😂
Fat Joe should of played “all I need” for the ladies. That would of got him 2 points odeee lmfaooo. But nah Ja is the Goat. He earned and deserved this win.
Yes that was my song! It's still on my Playlist lol
@@Geezysbaby ayyyee you already know lol
As one of those ladies, I agree! 💞
@@johnnybradley4821 also take me home was my shit
@@Geezysbaby both songs on my Sunday cleaning playlist. Then i transition to the neyo and remy song
Fat Joe vs Nore, would’ve been good
Bruh what 20 songs is Nore playing?
@@dtc8756 Are u crazy? Nore has joints. Solo, features and shit off that CNN album are classics bro
That would have been kinda good 🤔
Nore is battling Beanie
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Plot Twist...Did Fat Joe Throw Battle
To Get Ja Rule His Props He Deserves..
IJS🧐🧐
That would be cool but...
Fat Joe kinda insinuated that in his recap. He didn't say it in so many words, but I got that from what he said
@@bkameka69 no if he said it, he was just trying to save face. That man really thought he was going to win and have a Jada moment lol
@@axa5005 yeah. He tried to use Jadas tactics but it didn't work
Naw
Jahdakiss is his name now 😂😂
Hip Hop is alive and well. Thank you all the fans who ❤️ Hip Hop!!!
Shout out to VERSUZ.
Well done Ja Rule. Congratulations on the win. You deserve your 💐 and 🏆
Man you have to watch on Patreon. It is hilarious with the music 😂loving the visuals on this though.
JBP officially the pod for old niggas cause why we still talking about verzuz battles every time they happen
A lot of people are confused, look versuz is about hits not rap lyrical n Joe don't have hits that are timeless so Joe would never have won nor matter what he comes with!!!
Where's the mop?!?! Hahahahahahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Only reason fat Joe was over confident is because of how bad the critics r on ja rule but hit for hit ja rule was light yrs ahead of fat Joe n I’m a fat Joe fan..This new generation don’t care if u sing they don’t care if u not street they just go with ur energy n the hits..ja rule couldn’t be canceled in this era..
then came out with "livin it up" after "all the way up"?= yeah ja rule did that SOLO! thats a true W!
Great analogy " Spades" can't use your Jack of spades early
Remys ante up verse (i wish i could bring pun back) was a lay up into deep cover remix
Joe with his best Fat Joe story telling impression
HOT97 should be banned from recapping verzuz!!!! What they were saying is extremely bad for hiphop when you discredit are legends like em or not
Only one guy was biased
@@christianrapper No bull.. Shyt!!
In my opinion Mr. Far Joe did everything to get his brother back in the Hip Hop grace so to speak. They are brothers and who else other the Fat Joe would extend an olive branch and let JA Rule get his shine and Flowers all at the same time. Fat was about the celebration and not the murder, Fat got records that could have smashed plus he chose not to throw a audible around the track 9, he could have shook JA out MSG but he didn’t. They both won!
I agree with this 100%. They are friends from way way back. All that said, Ja still sounded amazing. I seen him in concert when I was a little kid & I remember thinking wow he sounds exactly like his recorded versions.
@@scarlet8078 IdK what JA been doing for 20 yrs other then the festival debacle but dude is in shape and look like he ready to still be recording like EMINEM. His catalog crosses so many thresholds and Fat does to! JA made me go to my Apple and re-download some records i forgot about! His early mixtape hood and gutty records were hitting me like i was back in the club in 98’
I don't understand why niggas can't see this he didn't pick Ja for a Verzuz and to put his homy on the stage to try to destroy him...clearly was tryna show people that Ja ran an era of rap and should be respected as that.
Why y’all actin like he gave ja the respect jas getting? Ja earned it, & took it.
He could've came harder, but blow him out the auditorium? No... Rule also showed hisself to be the better showman
Dope Verzuz idea: Lloyd Banks vs Cassidy 👀
Would love to see them do a real battle though 🔥🔥🔥
Perfect analysis!
I spilled juice!!!🤣🤣🤣
Yall sleep how funny Joe was reviewing this 😂😂😂
He didnt play the " Go Crazy Remix"
Ja And Joe Was Both Winners..Versus Was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Glad To See Two Legends Go At It For The Culture ✊👊💯✌
Fat Joe is lame asf to me after verzuz! Ja rule showed why he was the greatest during his time!!!
I could listen to Joe talk all day
Ja had it on lock for a bit but he fell off so hard that people forgot.
Should’ve been
Luda vs T.I.
Maybe
Nelly vs Ja
Lox vs Hot boys
Dipset vs TRU
Lox vs hotboyz??? Naw
@@toddmaek5436 you must not been around for the hot boyz
@@livelifels2726 I was around for the hot boys but not enough for the lox. Mobb deep if prodigy was still here, hell even watching lox rap circles around g unit again would be entertaining. Dipset just wasn't on cue but they had the crowd popping it was good they just not as timeless as the lox
@@iprodigy6723 id put g unit vs the lox too. They probably would’ve blew the lox out the water cuz they got more commercial hits and they had lyrics. Banks and 50 would’ve brought a similar performance as jada imo. I also think 50 would be a whole lot more strategic than dipset was. Well dipset wasn’t strategic at all that’s why they lost. I think they were perfectly capable of putting up a way better fight if they had a plan.
Ja-da Kiss
Love this chemistry
new singles don't equal new hits. a new song out dont mean its a hit
budden loses a versuz to vanilla ice.... IJS 🤣
People thought Joe was gonna win coz 50 won his beef
30? we know all those songs word for word lol
Damn Joe said Xbar damn we old 😂
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Who ever seen fat Joe being prepared and calculated for this would be sadly mistaken. Listen to fat Joe’s albums they’re all poorly calculated and horribly put together
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These are classics, it was over when that was said.
Joe trying to do a podcast verzuz