Absalon, fili mi - Josquin des Prez
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2024
- From Joel Chapman's recital, "What is This, Mozart?"
Senior Conducting Recital on May 09, 2014. Memorial Church, Stanford University.
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FROM THE PROGRAM NOTES
The authorship of "Absalon, fili mi" is problematic. While in its few surviving sources it is attributed only to Josquin, we do not entirely know who wrote it. Some musicologists suggest that Josquin’s contemporary Pierre de la Rue may have composed it. Regardless, "Absalon, fili mi" was written and first copied sometime around the turn of the 16th century. Composed for four voices, the motet begins with a simple ascending line to which the other voices respond in imitation. There are actually two questionably authentic versions of this piece: one in the key you hear in this performance, and one a fourth higher. This low version sits exceedingly low in register, which reflects the sunken reaction of a father in mourning. This makes the cascading descent on the word "descendam" even more resigned.
SUPERIUS
Andrew Forsyth
David Lopez
ALTUS
Ben Laboy
Will Watson
TENOR
Daniel Borup
Chris Lewis
BASSUS
Jacob Chamoun
Joel Chapman
Joel Chapman, conductor
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Absolutely brilliant!
This is really incredible! Great musicians and a great composer
This is one of the most tragic stories from the Old Testament (2 Sam 13-19). King David of Israel had a lot of children. Two of them were Salomon and Absalom. Salomon should once become the successor of David. Absalom was quite rebellious and formed an army against his father in order to become king over Israel. The whole situation escalated so that father and son went into a kind of civil war with each other. David commanded his troups to catch his son but to spare his life. After a wilde battle, David won. While Absalom was forced to retreat and rode back on his mule, he got stuck with his head between the limbs of a tree and hung their helplessly until Joab, the commander of King David's army, killed him. All Israel was happy that the civil war was over and public order was restored but as soon as King David learned that his son died in the battle, he burst into tears. No matter how bad their relationship has been in recent years, no matter how much misery Absalom brought to the Israelites, it was still his son. David was full of sorrow and spoke those words that Pierre de la Rue or maybe Josquin des Prez set to music. This explains why there are only male voices. This is a father mourning for his dead son.
Pierre de la Rue (1452-1518) or Josquin des Prez (1455-1521): Absalon, fili mi
Probably written for the funeral of Philip I of Castile (1478-1506), son of Emperor Maximilian I (1459-1519).
Absalon fili mi,
quis det ut moriar pro te, Absalon?
Non vivam ultra,
sed descendam in infernum plorans.
Absalon my son,
who grants me to die instead of you, Absalon?
I shall live no more,
but go down to hell, weeping.
2 Samuel @ (cf. Job @; cf. Psalm 54:16)
Thank you for the context!
Perfect tempo! So many groups do this too slow.
agreed!! and thank you
Nice nice nice! beautiful Magnificent ! I were singing along with the bass part, and the final note, seemed too easy! and i was like " That is no Bb1 ! " and i checked with a piano, and surely it wasn't .. you guys have it transposed up a half key, so the basses can sing the last note ! BUSTED !
+Hitashi son haha, you got us! We're low basses, but we're not unhuman. Thanks for watching. :)
+Joel Chapman i get what you're saying :)
i would have to transpose it up another half note, so the last note would be a C2, the B1 is too deep :) ! but you guys got that B1 through very convincingly, and i love the 'counter tenor?' the one in the middle, excellent voice on that man!
+Hitashi son Yes, he's amazing. I'll be sure to let him know!
@@joelchapmanmusic I am human and sing Bb without any difficulty, and even lower. But you're absolutely right to transpose: the goal is to sing to the best of the singers' abilities. The exact value of the tuning fork is a modern obsession due to recorders and oscilloscopes, and the tuning fork is only interesting for tuning instruments together. And it changes with temperature, times, places etc. De La Rue wanted it to be very low, he didn't want to make it impossible for the singers, he certainly had a good deep bass, it's not just the Russians who have it... if you search them an if you give them motivation to sing!!!
Lindo d+.
:D
nice!
Luther admired him...
Davi lamentando a morte do seu filho traiçoeiro Absalão ( como é contado na biblia