Seriously !!! I've just bought the Pro....It will be going back so I can get the ISO. This is a massive upgrade and just what we have been asking for... Thanks BMD, finally a company that listens to its users..
Great additions. If I hadn’t just recently bought the ATEM Mini Pro... But for $895, you’d think they’d have finally added headphone monitoring for the audio mix.
True, where the hell is the headphone jack...thats the worst thing they forgot...its so key 🔑, smh...how does it have the name pro...with no headphone jack for monitoring.. unprofessional.
My Atem Pro landed 2 weeks ago so i haven't opened it. I ordered the ISO today and will either sell the PRO or keep and add the bridge. Now i am debating wether to purchase 3 BMPCC 6Ks with Shure SM7Bs or URSA Minis 4k G2s. Big price difference but it opens up more revenues streams. Decisions to make.
Picked up the Atem Mini Pro like a few days ago and learnt a lot from your channel thank you - the new ISO is just wow looking forward to buying one soon
Hey Alex, I watched the entire stream from Grant and was blown away, a couple of thoughts are, 1 this takes what a friend of mine cited as an advantage of sling studio (the multi recorder and the editing project) and ramps it up by a factor of 100 when you factor in the Blackmagic eco-system (finishing a project in 4k or 6k using BRAW files😎 ) and 2 A clever way to sell more Pocket 4K and 6K cameras creating a class of broadcast programming that get's the "Big" players results on and indie network budget ! Blackmagic design, disrupts the status quo again 🥂🥂
Couldn't agree more! It's also encourages more people to open up DaVinci and see what that is like for editing :) Personally I love editing in DaVinci, but a lot of people are so used to Final Cup or Prem Pro, there has to be a huge reason to try another editor....and this might be it!
I am excited to have more capability all in one box for basic captures. I have been involved in live broadcast and streaming of music performances for many years and can't quite believe what is possible in such a small package. The Mini PRO ISO is worth the wait for me over the mini pro as I shoot a fair amount of music and ISO for fixes and replays is key. This kit will also work on some large wildfires as I am moving from operations to public information as a firefighter. We are live streaming content but need a quick workflow to deliver highlights. Super stoked for what this technology brings!
Such an innovative company. I’m happy with my standard and pro version mini’s working from home at present. I think when things get back to normal and I start doing more in-person event recording, the ISO would be a serious consideration. I also liked that Bridge adapter and the ability to send/receive video/audio over the internet to different locations. People doing higher end virtual conferences would be very interested in this. BMD hasn’t allowed a pandemic to slow them down at all.
No matter how much I'm in love with my Atem Mini Pro, I consider this a pretty pretty sneaky and greedy move. Can't help it. It's been, how many months between the Mini and Mini Pro? Now _another_ update that's got to be a hardware only so you'll have to buy a new one for all the new features.. It's like when you buy a Mac 2 weeks before they surprise you with a new laptop that's waaaay better. Now this from BMD. OK, I get it, a nice offerring of three different levels of a HDMI switcher, so let's see the prices and they'll cost accordingly. All the stuff you're presenting here Alex, are exactly what I thought of when I started using the Mini Pro. It was like "Oh, it can't do that, but it'd be great" - now we're getting it. So, my Mini Pro is going for sale because of the purely practical issues, the ISO will be saving me money & time with these new options. Now I'll need to check the availability and dig deeper in the resolutions and video quality promised... OK, OK, I might have been harsh and I get it, BMD need to make money, but still...
@@elissitdesign I think these things expand organically - e.g ATEM Mini was a big hit and the numbers made it viable to release more features. We are still well in front at these prices. My 15' Macbook pro with the old keyboard however.......
Agree, except you probably won't be able to actually get one in your hands for at least a month due to high demand. And by then, here comes another new product!
FYI!...there is a 4 camera limitation work around. I have a 4K HDMI 4x1 switcher hooked up to input 4. So I have cameras on inputs 1-through 3, and the 4x1 HDMI switcher Box on input #4 (as a sub group)...where I put 2- GoPro's and 2- Panasonic G7's on it, for a total of 7 HD-Cameras Feeds. The only issue is, when I switch through the 4x1 sub-switcher, there's a few millisecond of blackness, as the 4x1 switcher drops one signal and picks up the new selected signal...but I just make sure I have channel 1,2 or 3 on the program feed while I'm selecting the proper camera feed from the 4x1 sub-switcher.
I just purchased the ATEM Mini Pro on Monday, nooooooooooooooo. I want to upgrade already. Dangit!!! Great videos by the way and thank you for sharing your knowledge.
you can still return it it within 14days so you will get your money back i was just about to do pre order the pro luckily i saw this when i was reading the patch note on 16.2.5 when i opened up resolved lucky for me.
Fantastic function upgrade. Too bad it can't be a firmware upgrade(?) Even as a paid upgrade I would consider it. For me, however the single best new feature would have been to be able to reverse the USB-C and HDMI out functions, so that I could get a Program view via HDMI, which could be connected to a projector, and a Multi View via USB-C on my laptop screen!
Great minds think alike.... I suggested this feature when then mini pro first came out. Would love to have multiview on my laptop via USB-C. Hopefully it's something that can be added via software update
You know all those Backorder Notification lists for the ATEM Mini PRO? Hopefully the companies haven't sent major deposit money to BMD as I'm sure there will be a LOT of cancellations of the AMP in favor of the ISO. I was on one of those lists and decided 3 weeks ago to just get the AM which was in stock locally. I've been using and learning all this time rather than waiting 6-9 weeks for the Pro. Now this ISO is definitely worth looking at. Just wish the output files would be Premiere compatible for the auto timeline. Even so, having the multi track files will be huge. I do feel sorry for all the ones who jumped on the Pro so quick.... I would have been one of them, except for the inventory issue. I almost HAVE to believe this is a firmware change if the box is the same. So much can be done with software, and you KNOW BMD was designing building the ISO MONTHS ago. They really should offer an upgrade for a fee.
Such a great review spoke very well and detailed. I'm about to buy one now because you explained exactly what I was looking for. Using 4 cameras all the footage go to that sd card for easy edit. I can see all the fades and graphics. I love it thanks
Oh, good. I just got the ATEM Mini Pro a little over a month ago. But, that's not a complaint. I like seeing tech march forward and when it does, there's always some who get caught in bad timing. You can't use that to pressure companies to hold back. Bring it on! By the way, I suddenly have an ATEM Mini Pro, just over a month old, for sale! :)
Cool features. The Slingstudio had that ISO features 4 years ago with Adobe premiere timeline with up to 8 or 10 cameras. Unfortunately that company sucked at marketing. Amazing engineering, zero marketing. Glad that Blackmagic got it with DaVinci.
Hello Alex, nice introduction, thank you, I am really looking forward to your full review. From the description I do not fully understand where the recording goes. It seem that there is still only one USB out, so do I understand it right that I can EITHER connect the external hard drive OR connect to the computer? If I connect to the computer via USB and stream, are the 5 separate recordings saved to the computer? Thanks for clarifying it.
I wonder if there is a way to access the recordings whilst they are in progress for a live replay on sports programs. The other feature I’d like is to be able to add broadcast delay (industry requirement for us) i.e. start the recording and say a minute later stream the recording from the start
Thanks for the great content Alex. If you wanted to both record the individual inputs & output the stream to a PC for use with OBS would you switch the multiview out to program out & use the HDMI out as well as a capture card to get this into your pc or mac? I know this would kill the multiview aspect but I need the overlay functionality & my instant replay macros from OBS. Alternatively, In your opinion/experience Is there a better solution than this?
BM are playing incredibly well to the short term demand and using this to create product tiers. Not dissimilar to DJI drones....albeit even DJI didn't rush out new products at this pace. Neither that dissimilar to Behringer XAIR range....which hit the sweet spot of customer offerings and then stopped....no new HW innovations....just SW upgrades. So we're all in the early adopter stage so expect to be paying the price of being an early adopter and to see what we bought quickly bypassed by something better....no point in complaining about it. The best bit is that the HW price will come down further and eventually HW will have a longer lifecycle (3yrs) and SW upgrades will be the differentiator. For now BM are enabling independent creators to work more efficiently and an affordable price and that is very good. Embrace the tech!
All these reviewers fail to mention that the webcam out is used for recording. This means you cannot use it in OBS/SLOBS/Zoom/Skype/Teams/etc while recording the individual camera feeds
Man. It keeps getting closer and closer to my slingstudio kit.
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Hi Alex Great series of videos on the Atem Mini Pro ISO! I just purchased mine after watching all of your videos! Thanks A question that came to mind. Does the ATEM keep its settings after shutting off? For instance the audio offset, if I set 4 frames delay, will it keep it even after I turn it off? Not only the audio delay but all settings configured via the software. In my perfect set up I wouldn’t need a computer every time I shut It off. Thanks
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By the way. I’ve watched your video explaining how to save profiles and then restore it later. What I’m curious to understand if I can save a certain profile so it always starts the same way without the need to restore a profile with computer.
Thanks for the informative video. When recording simultaneously in the ISO mode and in the cameras, does DaVinci Resolve use the Multicam ISO as proxy footage and relink the cameras hight resolution as the source. In other words, do we have to re-edit the camera footage in a new timeline separate from the ISO recording?
Hey guys, love some thoughts on 3 x cameras connected to an ATEM Mini for a medium size church setup. Options: 1. Consumer camcorders 2. Blackmagic 4k 3.DSLR Style e.g EOSR or 4.Used semi pro cameras such as Canon C100 or Sony FS7. Already have Canon lenses and sound will be patched from mixing desk.
Do not have major problem really, however be prepared the color from the different camera will not be the same. Best to use the same brand of camera or even the same camera to get the same color all the way.
Thanks Alex. Can you tell me if the individual HDMI input recordings are still quality limited by the streaming bitrate? I recenty did a shoot where I had to stream at 2 mbps and the recording while surprisingly decent was not great considering the bitrate.
morchangstudios becuase it needed all new hardware inside. Although the outside may look the same as the previous unit, the ISO has a lot more on the inside ;)
Great stuff Alex! Got a question...I tried changing the XML for the ATEM Mini Pro with Subsplash streaming and had problems with there player. Streaming with the ATEM Mini Pro worked well with FaceBook, TH-cam, and Restream but not with Sybsplash player...Any advice?
Hi Alex, thank you for this video. For some reason, my ISO is not producing all of the output files. When I finish recording with 3 cameras, I see only 1 completed file on my hard drive. Am I missing a setting to produce the separate files and the Divinci file?
Do you have to set it up a certain way to get it to create a davinci resolve file? I just setup my a7cs and the iso but it records the camera settings (not clean) and only saves a mp4 file.. what am I missing?
If you're just recording a podcast, editing, and uploading it to youtube later and not live, do you need the mini pro iso or will the regular mini pro do just fine? Is the ability to record all 4 hdmi inputs just for live things?
Hey Alex. I just received my ATEM Mini Pro ISO and I'm looking at cellular bonding devices/options for live events that would play nicely with this new product from BM. Would you be willing to explore this concept for us? I know the market for live streaming events is exploding and I want to be on the edge.
What do you recommend for a 4k workflow? I want to be able to capture (record) 4k feeds from cameras and PC's/consoles but i don't need to stream in 4k of course.
The Atomos Sumo and Shogun7 do this but do not create a Resolve Project file. Each will record a Program and up to 4 ISOs simultaneously. But unlike this new Mini Pro ISO, you can actually see on the monitor/recorders how much time you have left for the record. I wish there was a way to visually see that when recording on this new device.
Do you think there is a limitation of these ATEM minis when filming live concerts where the cameras are usually quite a distant apart? Do you know what the maximum recommendation for HDMI cable length? Great videos btw.
Cool! I just got the mini pro after waiting two months. But I want to use zoom/meet/teams with the atem but then I have to use the usb to get the “webcam” feed. So how can you work this out while retaining the hdmi multi viewer?
There is only one usb-c output right? What happens when you record? if you want to feed a laptop for a stream you need to use the HDMI and Capture Card?
Still hoping we get an update to output and reframe all 4 hdmi inputs with a custom background. Incase we want to display all four cameras at once and not just 2 cameras as picture in picture.
Hello Alex, I have problem connecting my Atem Mini Pro ISO with Gopro and Canon R6, actually no signal coming inside the Atem, do you have any tips what is wrong?
hi. i am not a video guy but i did purchase the iso just so i can record and stream live music from home. at the moment i am using lumix gx85 and 2 go pro cameras. question is does the resolution settings in the camera affect the video being sent to the atem or does it only apply to the in camera recording? ive also noticed that the gx85 has also resolution settings for the tv/monitor output separate from the main resolution/framerate settings. my guess is it is the signal that reaches the atem iso so it must be the one that is relevant here.
Thank you for your video sir, We just got our ATEM ISO, I have some issue need your guidance, how to add extra media player for showing my organisation Logo and at the same-time lower third. I am very confused with this, need your kind help. You are doing great, it helps lot.
I have one question please. How can I make the lower thirds that I use during the live stream on my ATEM MINI PRO ISO also appear in the Da Vinci project file for post production editing. At the moment it does not appear in the Da Vinci project file from my SSD recording. Is this even possible?
Hey Bart, they will be recorded at whatever resolution has been set in the ATEM Mini Pro ISO up time 1080p60. But as Mire says, if you record BRAW on camera, you can import these into the DaVinci project and master a UHD version.
God dammit lol! Just got the pro, finally. The only thing I still would like to see is better audio inputs rather than more HDMI audio combo inputs...A pro audio balanced input that doesn’t distort easily through a 3.5 mm headphone. I realize you could feed the audio through the HDMI, but I don’t want to do that, I want to go in from a pro mixer directly into the mini
Wait, does that mean the BM opened up the HDMI output for full resolution export or is it still just 1080 and we have to grab the media manually from the cards?
Hey Man i hope you are looking comments i need your help.I am using right now magewell ultrastream hdmi for non profesional gaming stream to twitch tv, but that quality on ultrastream not good enoght i need something powerfull compact standalone streaming device can u recomended something.? Thanks :))
Hello @Alex Pettitt, what is the lowest version of Davinci Resolve that can edit Atem Mini ISO files? I'm having issues with Resolve 16 and will have to go low on the version
I have one question please. How can I make the lower thirds that I use during the live stream also appear in the Da Vinci project file. Is this even possible?
The next Mini Pro Iso Mk II, we don't gonna need worry about 6k, 4k or full HD. Everything gonna upscale to 8K and looks like 8K! I will waiting to buy MkII. September 2020, is very near. 😆 LoL
The ATEM Mini Pro can only record the program output to USB-C / Hard Drive. The ISO records the ouput + all 4 HDMI inputs to the hard drive at the same time :)
One potential problem on recording of gaming. If the game is HDCP encrypted, I doubt the MiniPro will accept that HDMI input. That would violate HDCP rules.
Most modern consoles allow you to turn of HDCP for games, but it is re-enables for Netflix / DVD’s etc :) ATEM Mini Pro has no issues with PS4 & XBOX as input from my testing :)
Nope, they are standard MP4 files for video and WAV files for the audio tracks so will work in any editors. The bonus of the DaVinci file is that it has a timeline of all the cuts,transitions,graphics etc that you used during your show to make editing quicker.
I’m glad I didn’t get a pro, because I love the new features in ISO, but couldn’t get a pro due to availability...... I mean they’ve made a product redundant before it was even fully available !
@@AlexPettitt oh true. I’ll have to give that a go! Have you had much experience with it? Noticed and key issues or differences between the edit when doing this?
I’m confused by this as well. There is only one Ethernet port and one usb c port. So how would you stream and record simultaneously? Do I need an Ethernet hub or a usb hub? I’d want to stream to Facebook but record all the separate cameras to disk? Do I connect the hard drive directly to my Mac? And then connect the ATEM to computer via usb c? And then connect my internet via Ethernet cable to my Mac or do I connect it directly to the ATEM?
Hey Matt, to explain you could plug a hard drive directly into the ATEM Mini Pro ISO via its USB-C port. All your recordings will then go directly on to that drive. Then for streaming, connect your ISO to your network via Ethernet cable and this will allow you to stream to the internet (Facebook) directly from the device, and control the ISO via the ATEM software running on a Mac/PC that is connected to the same network :) Hope this helps!!
Alex Pettitt I’m following this. However... if you connect external HD to ATEM for recording the individual videos and the internet line directly to the Ethernet port, how do you connect the ATEM to your computer to tell it what to do since all the ports will be in use? Would you then connect it to Mac via WiFi ? Or do I need a Ethernet hub that I can connect more than one Ethernet to either the ATEM or to my Mac since both Mac and ATEM have only one port? Make sense what I’m asking?
Yes Matt, you would need to connect both your Mac and ATEM up to a network switch via Ethernet so that both are on the same network. If you go to my channel, you will see a specific video about how to setup networking :) Hope this helps
Haha I know right....I'm going to have to go back and try and find the clip where I talked about wanting something like this. So awesome that they listen to users feedback :)
Watch my Hands-On demo with the ATEM Mini Pro ISO here: th-cam.com/video/PrtZAt38l90/w-d-xo.html
Seriously !!! I've just bought the Pro....It will be going back so I can get the ISO. This is a massive upgrade and just what we have been asking for... Thanks BMD, finally a company that listens to its users..
Great additions. If I hadn’t just recently bought the ATEM Mini Pro...
But for $895, you’d think they’d have finally added headphone monitoring for the audio mix.
True, where the hell is the headphone jack...thats the worst thing they forgot...its so key 🔑, smh...how does it have the name pro...with no headphone jack for monitoring.. unprofessional.
Yep, I too would love to see a headphone jack on there... but I guess BM also know that most field monitors have headphone jacks too.
Wait for headphones when everybody bought ATEM MINI PRO ISO. Then, they will launch “ATEM MINI PRO ISO SUPER”, with headphones new feature!
@@carlosromeira Ha, ha, ha - I bet you are right.
I'm sure in 3 months we'll have the ATEM Mini Pro ISO EAR or something that will have a headphone jack and then they'll bump it to $995
This is incredible although I'm sad how quick my pro feels so redundant now
I know the feeling bro, although I am super impressed at how they’re continuing developing both hardware and software for the mini
My Atem Pro landed 2 weeks ago so i haven't opened it. I ordered the ISO today and will either sell the PRO or keep and add the bridge. Now i am debating wether to purchase 3 BMPCC 6Ks with Shure SM7Bs or URSA Minis 4k G2s. Big price difference but it opens up more revenues streams. Decisions to make.
What a great device, bought the Pro Version recently. The ISO Feature is cool, would be nice, if BM had an upgrade or trade-in program:)
Picked up the Atem Mini Pro like a few days ago and learnt a lot from your channel thank you - the new ISO is just wow looking forward to buying one soon
Honestly, thank you so much for this. I've been thinking for a while what my best options are and you've sold it for me.
I was considering buying the Shogun 7 but now I think that I will buy the ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Thanks for doing this.
Hey Alex, I watched the entire stream from Grant and was blown away, a couple of thoughts are, 1 this takes what a friend of mine cited as an advantage of sling studio (the multi recorder and the editing project) and ramps it up by a factor of 100 when you factor in the Blackmagic eco-system (finishing a project in 4k or 6k using BRAW files😎 ) and 2 A clever way to sell more Pocket 4K and 6K cameras creating a class of broadcast programming that get's the "Big" players results on and indie network budget ! Blackmagic design, disrupts the status quo again 🥂🥂
Couldn't agree more! It's also encourages more people to open up DaVinci and see what that is like for editing :) Personally I love editing in DaVinci, but a lot of people are so used to Final Cup or Prem Pro, there has to be a huge reason to try another editor....and this might be it!
I am excited to have more capability all in one box for basic captures. I have been involved in live broadcast and streaming of music performances for many years and can't quite believe what is possible in such a small package. The Mini PRO ISO is worth the wait for me over the mini pro as I shoot a fair amount of music and ISO for fixes and replays is key. This kit will also work on some large wildfires as I am moving from operations to public information as a firefighter. We are live streaming content but need a quick workflow to deliver highlights. Super stoked for what this technology brings!
Such an innovative company. I’m happy with my standard and pro version mini’s working from home at present. I think when things get back to normal and I start doing more in-person event recording, the ISO would be a serious consideration. I also liked that Bridge adapter and the ability to send/receive video/audio over the internet to different locations. People doing higher end virtual conferences would be very interested in this. BMD hasn’t allowed a pandemic to slow them down at all.
Wow! So glad I waited to buy it ... the ISO is a killer feature! 🙌
No matter how much I'm in love with my Atem Mini Pro, I consider this a pretty pretty sneaky and greedy move. Can't help it. It's been, how many months between the Mini and Mini Pro? Now _another_ update that's got to be a hardware only so you'll have to buy a new one for all the new features.. It's like when you buy a Mac 2 weeks before they surprise you with a new laptop that's waaaay better. Now this from BMD. OK, I get it, a nice offerring of three different levels of a HDMI switcher, so let's see the prices and they'll cost accordingly.
All the stuff you're presenting here Alex, are exactly what I thought of when I started using the Mini Pro. It was like "Oh, it can't do that, but it'd be great" - now we're getting it.
So, my Mini Pro is going for sale because of the purely practical issues, the ISO will be saving me money & time with these new options. Now I'll need to check the availability and dig deeper in the resolutions and video quality promised... OK, OK, I might have been harsh and I get it, BMD need to make money, but still...
Yes all three should have been presented at once! Bad move.
@@elissitdesign I think these things expand organically - e.g ATEM Mini was a big hit and the numbers made it viable to release more features. We are still well in front at these prices. My 15' Macbook pro with the old keyboard however.......
Agree, except you probably won't be able to actually get one in your hands for at least a month due to high demand. And by then, here comes another new product!
FYI!...there is a 4 camera limitation work around. I have a 4K HDMI 4x1 switcher hooked up to input 4. So I have cameras on inputs 1-through 3, and the 4x1 HDMI switcher Box on input #4 (as a sub group)...where I put 2- GoPro's and 2- Panasonic G7's on it, for a total of 7 HD-Cameras Feeds. The only issue is, when I switch through the 4x1 sub-switcher, there's a few millisecond of blackness, as the 4x1 switcher drops one signal and picks up the new selected signal...but I just make sure I have channel 1,2 or 3 on the program feed while I'm selecting the proper camera feed from the 4x1 sub-switcher.
I just purchased the ATEM Mini Pro on Monday, nooooooooooooooo. I want to upgrade already. Dangit!!! Great videos by the way and thank you for sharing your knowledge.
you can still return it it within 14days so you will get your money back i was just about to do pre order the pro luckily i saw this when i was reading the patch note on 16.2.5 when i opened up resolved lucky for me.
Clear, Concise, and as always very informative.
Fantastic function upgrade. Too bad it can't be a firmware upgrade(?) Even as a paid upgrade I would consider it.
For me, however the single best new feature would have been to be able to reverse the USB-C and HDMI out functions, so that I could get a Program view via HDMI, which could be connected to a projector, and a Multi View via USB-C on my laptop screen!
Or selectable, depending on our needs at the moment.
I agreed RemekTek I would pay for the firmware upgrade if these new features are in it.
Great minds think alike.... I suggested this feature when then mini pro first came out. Would love to have multiview on my laptop via USB-C. Hopefully it's something that can be added via software update
RemekTek Media can someone open up an ATEM and see what’s on the inside... has to be I hack ...I’ll donate a 100 the purchase
You know all those Backorder Notification lists for the ATEM Mini PRO? Hopefully the companies haven't sent major deposit money to BMD as I'm sure there will be a LOT of cancellations of the AMP in favor of the ISO. I was on one of those lists and decided 3 weeks ago to just get the AM which was in stock locally. I've been using and learning all this time rather than waiting 6-9 weeks for the Pro. Now this ISO is definitely worth looking at. Just wish the output files would be Premiere compatible for the auto timeline. Even so, having the multi track files will be huge. I do feel sorry for all the ones who jumped on the Pro so quick.... I would have been one of them, except for the inventory issue. I almost HAVE to believe this is a firmware change if the box is the same. So much can be done with software, and you KNOW BMD was designing building the ISO MONTHS ago. They really should offer an upgrade for a fee.
Such a great review spoke very well and detailed. I'm about to buy one now because you explained exactly what I was looking for. Using 4 cameras all the footage go to that sd card for easy edit. I can see all the fades and graphics. I love it thanks
Oh, good. I just got the ATEM Mini Pro a little over a month ago. But, that's not a complaint. I like seeing tech march forward and when it does, there's always some who get caught in bad timing. You can't use that to pressure companies to hold back. Bring it on! By the way, I suddenly have an ATEM Mini Pro, just over a month old, for sale! :)
I just bought the ATEM MIni Pro yesterday 😐😐 i guess im gonna return it now
hi. please Deply explain this device too devicewell hds9105. thanks
thanks for the video that helps me better acknowledge the new product's features
I have always dream of something like this... a dream come true for real! thanks for the info!
Hey Alex. Thank you for the information. Keep up the good work.
Cool features. The Slingstudio had that ISO features 4 years ago with Adobe premiere timeline with up to 8 or 10 cameras. Unfortunately that company sucked at marketing. Amazing engineering, zero marketing.
Glad that Blackmagic got it with DaVinci.
Hello Alex, nice introduction, thank you, I am really looking forward to your full review. From the description I do not fully understand where the recording goes. It seem that there is still only one USB out, so do I understand it right that I can EITHER connect the external hard drive OR connect to the computer? If I connect to the computer via USB and stream, are the 5 separate recordings saved to the computer? Thanks for clarifying it.
I wonder if there is a way to access the recordings whilst they are in progress for a live replay on sports programs. The other feature I’d like is to be able to add broadcast delay (industry requirement for us) i.e. start the recording and say a minute later stream the recording from the start
Thanks for the great content Alex. If you wanted to both record the individual inputs & output the stream to a PC for use with OBS would you switch the multiview out to program out & use the HDMI out as well as a capture card to get this into your pc or mac? I know this would kill the multiview aspect but I need the overlay functionality & my instant replay macros from OBS. Alternatively, In your opinion/experience Is there a better solution than this?
Woow. My original atem mini now feels ancient already
Here’s hoping everyone in front of me at the DVE Store decides to get the ISO version so I can get my non-ISO faster. 😀
🤣
BM are playing incredibly well to the short term demand and using this to create product tiers. Not dissimilar to DJI drones....albeit even DJI didn't rush out new products at this pace. Neither that dissimilar to Behringer XAIR range....which hit the sweet spot of customer offerings and then stopped....no new HW innovations....just SW upgrades. So we're all in the early adopter stage so expect to be paying the price of being an early adopter and to see what we bought quickly bypassed by something better....no point in complaining about it. The best bit is that the HW price will come down further and eventually HW will have a longer lifecycle (3yrs) and SW upgrades will be the differentiator. For now BM are enabling independent creators to work more efficiently and an affordable price and that is very good. Embrace the tech!
AVI - Q this is so well thought out and explained and I totally agree! Thanks for taking the time to comment it
All these reviewers fail to mention that the webcam out is used for recording. This means you cannot use it in OBS/SLOBS/Zoom/Skype/Teams/etc while recording the individual camera feeds
I thought you could still stream via ethernet
Man. It keeps getting closer and closer to my slingstudio kit.
Hi Alex
Great series of videos on the Atem Mini Pro ISO! I just purchased mine after watching all of your videos! Thanks
A question that came to mind.
Does the ATEM keep its settings after shutting off? For instance the audio offset, if I set 4 frames delay, will it keep it even after I turn it off? Not only the audio delay but all settings configured via the software.
In my perfect set up I wouldn’t need a computer every time I shut It off.
Thanks
By the way. I’ve watched your video explaining how to save profiles and then restore it later. What I’m curious to understand if I can save a certain profile so it always starts the same way without the need to restore a profile with computer.
Ross Video Switchers have had LiveEDL in them for many years now......Proper Broadcasters and Switchers have been using them for years :)
Thanks for the informative video.
When recording simultaneously in the ISO mode and in the cameras, does DaVinci Resolve use the Multicam ISO as proxy footage and relink the cameras hight resolution as the source. In other words, do we have to re-edit the camera footage in a new timeline separate from the ISO recording?
Hey guys, love some thoughts on 3 x cameras connected to an ATEM Mini for a medium size church setup. Options: 1. Consumer camcorders 2. Blackmagic 4k 3.DSLR Style e.g EOSR or 4.Used semi pro cameras such as Canon C100 or Sony FS7. Already have Canon lenses and sound will be patched from mixing desk.
Do not have major problem really, however be prepared the color from the different camera will not be the same. Best to use the same brand of camera or even the same camera to get the same color all the way.
@@EdChinWorld Thanks mate! All the best :)
I definite would have bought one, if I do not have the ATEM Mini Pro and ATEM Mini already
Thanks Alex. Can you tell me if the individual HDMI input recordings are still quality limited by the streaming bitrate? I recenty did a shoot where I had to stream at 2 mbps and the recording while surprisingly decent was not great considering the bitrate.
Great info -- thanks Alex!
Now why couldn’t they have done that with an update ??
morchangstudios becuase it needed all new hardware inside. Although the outside may look the same as the previous unit, the ISO has a lot more on the inside ;)
@@AlexPettitt just got mine after seeing your great vids....pfff....keep up the good work!
Waiting the ATEM MINI PRO ISO UHD H266/VCC to place order ;-)
You mean H265?
@@guysofly4315 H265 would be fine, but :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versatile_Video_Coding
Already Pre Ordered it and the ATEM streaming
Great stuff Alex! Got a question...I tried changing the XML for the ATEM Mini Pro with Subsplash streaming and had problems with there player. Streaming with the ATEM Mini Pro worked well with FaceBook, TH-cam, and Restream but not with Sybsplash player...Any advice?
Hi Alex, thank you for this video. For some reason, my ISO is not producing all of the output files. When I finish recording with 3 cameras, I see only 1 completed file on my hard drive. Am I missing a setting to produce the separate files and the Divinci file?
I am glad i have waited however . Wondering if there will be a 4K version in the near future for live steam?
Do you have to set it up a certain way to get it to create a davinci resolve file? I just setup my a7cs and the iso but it records the camera settings (not clean) and only saves a mp4 file.. what am I missing?
If you're just recording a podcast, editing, and uploading it to youtube later and not live, do you need the mini pro iso or will the regular mini pro do just fine? Is the ability to record all 4 hdmi inputs just for live things?
Hey Alex. I just received my ATEM Mini Pro ISO and I'm looking at cellular bonding devices/options for live events that would play nicely with this new product from BM. Would you be willing to explore this concept for us? I know the market for live streaming events is exploding and I want to be on the edge.
What do you recommend for a 4k workflow? I want to be able to capture (record) 4k feeds from cameras and PC's/consoles but i don't need to stream in 4k of course.
The Atomos Sumo and Shogun7 do this but do not create a Resolve Project file. Each will record a Program and up to 4 ISOs simultaneously. But unlike this new Mini Pro ISO, you can actually see on the monitor/recorders how much time you have left for the record. I wish there was a way to visually see that when recording on this new device.
Do you think there is a limitation of these ATEM minis when filming live concerts where the cameras are usually quite a distant apart? Do you know what the maximum recommendation for HDMI cable length? Great videos btw.
I have run 20m cheap HDMI cables for 4K without serious issue. I have seen 100ft cables at stages all the time.
@@EdChinWorld Thanks for the info 😊
serious all they are missing is release a 4K version and i will still buy / pre order the ISO version
Does anyone know if you can use the ATEM 1 M/E Advanced Panel with the Atem minis instead of only using the software?
Cool! I just got the mini pro after waiting two months. But I want to use zoom/meet/teams with the atem but then I have to use the usb to get the “webcam” feed. So how can you work this out while retaining the hdmi multi viewer?
There is only one usb-c output right? What happens when you record? if you want to feed a laptop for a stream you need to use the HDMI and Capture Card?
Still hoping we get an update to output and reframe all 4 hdmi inputs with a custom background. Incase we want to display all four cameras at once and not just 2 cameras as picture in picture.
Hello Alex, I have problem connecting my Atem Mini Pro ISO with Gopro and Canon R6, actually no signal coming inside the Atem, do you have any tips what is wrong?
Awesome, do you get the full length video recorded through the Mini for each camera or only the pieces that were broadcast?
From the moment you hit the record button on the ATEM Mini PRO ISO, it will record output and all ISOs :) All dame length and timecode synced.
@@AlexPettitt Thanks!
Also, this device is awesome. But damn, I want a 4K ATEM mini
I belief they will have one very soon haha
Do I need to have a Black Magic Camera to use the ISO feature.....
hi. i am not a video guy but i did purchase the iso just so i can record and stream live music from home. at the moment i am using lumix gx85 and 2 go pro cameras. question is does the resolution settings in the camera affect the video being sent to the atem or does it only apply to the in camera recording? ive also noticed that the gx85 has also resolution settings for the tv/monitor output separate from the main resolution/framerate settings. my guess is it is the signal that reaches the atem iso so it must be the one that is relevant here.
Will the Mini and Mini Pro work okay with USB2? My MacBook Pro does not have USB-C
How to saved project file with usb out and simultaneously operates as a simple webcam source. Only One usb out.
As far as I’m aware, you can’t but think is something I will be testing today and including in my ATEM ISO review video
I would love to know that as well... unless you can somehow use the ethernet port for streaming and the usb for recording?
Thank you for your video sir, We just got our ATEM ISO, I have some issue need your guidance, how to add extra media player for showing my organisation Logo and at the same-time lower third. I am very confused with this, need your kind help. You are doing great, it helps lot.
Check out this video, it may help: th-cam.com/video/JLOn6Z4tkP0/w-d-xo.html
@@AlexPettitt thank you very much for your kind response.
Is there is any way we can add two media player or DSK? Also I am facing audio delay from Hdmi input no analog input.
but why only one usb-c??? i’d like to record and stream at the same time reliably
I am facing issue in live streaming. It does not goes online and builds up cache. Please help.
Tell black magic to refund us for the last 2... I mean where’s my headphone and power switch...
if I use Zoom/OBS, than the (recording-)features of the new PRO ISO cannot be used anyway, cause of only one USB-C output ??
Will Atem mini pro iso recored on any disk format? NTFS, EXFAT...
I have one question please. How can I make the lower thirds that I use during the live stream on my ATEM MINI PRO ISO also appear in the Da Vinci project file for post production editing. At the moment it does not appear in the Da Vinci project file from my SSD recording. Is this even possible?
Is it possible to find a work around to be able to stream and record at the same time?
What is the resolution of the recorded h.264 files? Is it full HD or 4K?
The ATEMs only put out HD. However, he said that if you're recording in 4K on the BMPCC, you replace the HD files in DaVinci with the cameras BRAW 4k.
Hey Bart, they will be recorded at whatever resolution has been set in the ATEM Mini Pro ISO up time 1080p60. But as Mire says, if you record BRAW on camera, you can import these into the DaVinci project and master a UHD version.
Thanks guys.
Hey alex, have you found a way to use the atem mini pro with Skype and obs at the same time?
God dammit lol! Just got the pro, finally. The only thing I still would like to see is better audio inputs rather than more HDMI audio combo inputs...A pro audio balanced input that doesn’t distort easily through a 3.5 mm headphone. I realize you could feed the audio through the HDMI, but I don’t want to do that, I want to go in from a pro mixer directly into the mini
Wait, does that mean the BM opened up the HDMI output for full resolution export or is it still just 1080 and we have to grab the media manually from the cards?
from what I understand, the hi-res will remain on the cards...
YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Man i hope you are looking comments i need your help.I am using right now magewell ultrastream hdmi for non profesional gaming stream to twitch tv, but that quality on ultrastream not good enoght i need something powerfull compact standalone streaming device can u recomended something.? Thanks :))
Hello @Alex Pettitt, what is the lowest version of Davinci Resolve that can edit Atem Mini ISO files? I'm having issues with Resolve 16 and will have to go low on the version
Hey Gideon, I believe 16 is the lowest I'm afriad
Game. Changer.
Imagine if they bring this into our ATEM 4K 😍
@@AlexPettitt ah mate, seriously. Would open up a so many possibilities!
I have one question please. How can I make the lower thirds that I use during the live stream also appear in the Da Vinci project file. Is this even possible?
It’s now $395 for ATEM MINI PRO ISO in 5/2023 on sale !!!! Unreal pricing
Can you connect phones on this? Instead of a proper camera?
Hey guys, how do i set up my video resolution on My atem mini, i have an issue with my camera when I’m using atem mini pro
The next Mini Pro Iso Mk II, we don't gonna need worry about 6k, 4k or full HD. Everything gonna upscale to 8K and looks like 8K!
I will waiting to buy MkII. September 2020, is very near. 😆 LoL
I thought this was possible on the pro as well no...I remember seeing a video saying that it can record separately.. am I incorrect??
The ATEM Mini Pro can only record the program output to USB-C / Hard Drive. The ISO records the ouput + all 4 HDMI inputs to the hard drive at the same time :)
One potential problem on recording of gaming. If the game is HDCP encrypted, I doubt the MiniPro will accept that HDMI input. That would violate HDCP rules.
Most modern consoles allow you to turn of HDCP for games, but it is re-enables for Netflix / DVD’s etc :) ATEM Mini Pro has no issues with PS4 & XBOX as input from my testing :)
Can I use this with VMix?
Are the video output tracks ONLY compatible to Resolve? What is their format?
Nope, they are standard MP4 files for video and WAV files for the audio tracks so will work in any editors. The bonus of the DaVinci file is that it has a timeline of all the cuts,transitions,graphics etc that you used during your show to make editing quicker.
The New Mini Pro ISO Would be Exciting if They Could Make It Send The Webcam Via Ethernet
Isn't the multi-cam record already exist on the atem mini pro? I can record all cams and program out on my mini pro.
No, the ATEM MINI PRO will only record one file (program output) to your hard drive. The ISO will record output + 4 HDMI inputs :)
I’m glad I didn’t get a pro, because I love the new features in ISO, but couldn’t get a pro due to availability...... I mean they’ve made a product redundant before it was even fully available !
Can't this be done with a software update. I literally just got the Mini Pro. I would have waited to pull the trigger.
You probably can return it..
I just got the ATEM Mini Pro...
Hey is there a way to get the Resolve file or recordings straight onto a Premiere timeline as per the edit done on switch ?
You could export an EDL file of the timeline from DaVinci to open in Prem Pro :)
@@AlexPettitt oh true. I’ll have to give that a go! Have you had much experience with it? Noticed and key issues or differences between the edit when doing this?
Where does the recording go - to a harddrive plugged directly into the mini or to the computer connected?
Yep everything got to the hard drive that it’s plugged into the USB-C of the ATEM Mini Pro ISO
I’m confused by this as well. There is only one Ethernet port and one usb c port. So how would you stream and record simultaneously? Do I need an Ethernet hub or a usb hub? I’d want to stream to Facebook but record all the separate cameras to disk? Do I connect the hard drive directly to my Mac? And then connect the ATEM to computer via usb c? And then connect my internet via Ethernet cable to my Mac or do I connect it directly to the ATEM?
Hey Matt, to explain you could plug a hard drive directly into the ATEM Mini Pro ISO via its USB-C port. All your recordings will then go directly on to that drive. Then for streaming, connect your ISO to your network via Ethernet cable and this will allow you to stream to the internet (Facebook) directly from the device, and control the ISO via the ATEM software running on a Mac/PC that is connected to the same network :) Hope this helps!!
Alex Pettitt I’m following this. However... if you connect external HD to ATEM for recording the individual videos and the internet line directly to the Ethernet port, how do you connect the ATEM to your computer to tell it what to do since all the ports will be in use? Would you then connect it to Mac via WiFi ? Or do I need a Ethernet hub that I can connect more than one Ethernet to either the ATEM or to my Mac since both Mac and ATEM have only one port? Make sense what I’m asking?
Yes Matt, you would need to connect both your Mac and ATEM up to a network switch via Ethernet so that both are on the same network. If you go to my channel, you will see a specific video about how to setup networking :) Hope this helps
dude you asked for this... well you got it
Haha I know right....I'm going to have to go back and try and find the clip where I talked about wanting something like this. So awesome that they listen to users feedback :)
Alex how would you like to be a guest on my weekly Talk show that Aires on Facebook and TH-cam at the same time
Goddamn. I want to trade in my pro for the iso. Will it be possible?