The cinematographer of this movie is Phillippe Lesourd, a high end French cinematographer who has worked on many productions including advertisements for Louis Vuitton.
@@ismailibrahim1354 behind the scenes documentary, also available on TH-cam. All the actors trained during the 3 years it took to finally start production of the movie. Tony leung (ip man) broke his arm, this guy Chang Chen (razor) managed to win a regional kung Fu forms championship
This guy was using a mix of bajiquan and piguaquan. Bajiquan is all elbows and close range fighting. Piguaquan is long range fighting with your hands outstretched (those of you who saw the final battle in The Matrix: Revolution saw Neo take the same Piguaquan stance this guy takes at 0:56). They were originally one style, then they got split into 2 separate styles.
AJweathersby I've heard that they are originally different styles and eventually one master who practices both styles decided to merge them into the "new" Bajiquan. Not absolutely sure though.
Bajiquan is not just Close Range Fighting an Elbows it teaches also longrange Fighting in Dui Da and Feihuquan and Taizongquan forms. These are Traditional Forms. But its main Focus is Short Range thats Correct. Baji is also known as Bodyguard Style this Style of Wushu has no limits! And many traditional Bajiquan Branches Teaches also Piguaquan that correct. That Guy in the Video uses also Pigua!
Baji and Pigua were once one style, and even after they split most people who practise one style also use the other. A lot of forms or moves labeled as baji will actually be partially pigua, because many people will tell you that baji is incomplete without pigua and vice versa.
Bajiquan (Eight Extremities Fist) is one the most lethal Quan Fa styles around. It is known as the “bodyguard style” due to its efficiency, proficiency and viciousness, and it is still used by Presidential bodyguards in Taiwan and China to this day. This scene from The Grand Master is truly amazing and, although a bit stylized and heavily dramatized, it showcases the style´s brutality. I have been truly fortunate enough to train in Bajiquan and I can attest to its formidable power.
I have meet a Taiwan special force member who master at Bajiquqn when I was in military training. He can easily break any part of your bones by only holding it. That force is not joke. Is some kind of most ridiculously power I have ever seen. All of his body is a weapon.
Its also one of the few Chinese martial arts to have the capacity and ferocity to go up against another very well known martial art that's been very overrated over the years since the early 2005s, Muay Thai.
The guy in the video also used Piguaquan, a style of kung fu that focused on long range attacks using extended arms like using a whip. He even used a Piguaquan's stance halfway. It is usually used in combination or practiced together with Bajiquan which focused on close range attacks using elbows and knees to deliver powerful attacks in the shortest time and distance as possible.
Wentao Feng Bajiquan mainly uses the Elbows and the Knees, because they are tough and hard naturally and you don't need to train your body for Bajiquan. It hurts because it uses techniques that counter the enemy's punch. They aim the rib and many vital points and sometimes can be extremely deadly.
Wentao Feng I read the Kenji manga, it's about a grandpa teaching his grandson martial art. The little kid is called Kenji and his first martial art is Bajiquan. The manga explained the techniques and what Bajiquan specializes in. My grandpa and great grandpa learned Wutang as their martial art.
Primitive Spongebob I don't learn martial arts, but I know a little bit about them. Just so you know my great grandpa and my grandfather both learn wutang and was considered a master, my grandfather took on 5 gang member and beat them up. Because they threatened my uncle and my grandma's life.
***** Bajiquan (and many of chinese kungfu) can be deadly as fatality if being done right. Bajiquan has 24 finishing moves, and 8 of them are considered lethal if performed in full power.
The rain, setting, music, 20 thugs with knives...everything about this scene makes me think how similar it is to a typical Batman fight scene (which is awesome)
Fun fact: Bajiquan is the primary fighting style of Goku, and Gohan in the Dragon Ball Z franchise. It is also one of the building blocks of Sanshou/Sanda.
Nah, goku and gohan definitely do kung fu but I would say since in this show there so insanely strong and gifted martial artists they probably use tons of different styles. Like, baji, xing yi, tai chi, pigua, shaolin, etc.
edison7300037 It's true that bajiquan is the martial art that often use by bodyguards in China, even both the bodyguard of Mao Zedong and Chiang Kai-shek practice this art. But, for the lucky ones bajiquan master who survived, I think you're not giving the right example. Yip Man wasn't a bajiquan master, but a wing chun master, and these are different arts. As for the bajiquan master who survived the war, it was in fact one of the secret agent of KMT, named Liu Yun Qiao. He died in 1992.
edison7300037 Oh, I see. It's because you didn't say just "kungfu masters", but you said "kungfu masters who learned bajiquan". Ah, doesn't matter. I'm at wrong too :)
Erepyon bullshit. All Taiwan baji sucks... Check my teacher his baji in my channel, he is 79, from the birth place of baji in Hebei and been practicing wushu since 6. Vidyis called real wushu and he shows 4 baji forms.. They start after xingyi
san5324 Mmm... I just stated some history about Bajiquan and its practitioners. If you think their style of baji sucks, and your teacher's style is better, then that's another matter. I won't counter that as I'm not an expertise to which martial art is better than the other.
This guy's forearms are probably harder then a steel pipe. There's a difference between choreography, and the actual martial art it's derived from. I could totally see Bajiquan's Elbow, and Forearm strikes in Self Defense situations.
This video and Akira Yuki are what inspired me to practice Bajiquan! This a great fight scene and not only should the Razor get his own movie but there should be more movie fight scenes featuring Bajiquan
the music, the fight style, the fact that they all have swords and he doesn't. perfect. they should've just made the movie about the razor and how he gives perfect shaves and pulverizes bad guys in his spare time.
+Kevin Sandor the 'razor' is believe to be based on the hitman who died in taiwan at 1992 in his 80's. Many believed he was THE most succesful hitman (or agent or 007 whatever you may call it) that chinese (KMD) send beyond enemy (Japan) line, since this wushu 'Bajiquan' is unarmed, up close, brutal (broken bones and internal bleeding) and personal. At that time, it makes the perfect choice for assassinate: get close unnoticed, kill a few key targets leave no trace (bullet shell, melee weapon type and other equipments). Until today, he is still believed to be one of a few user of Bajiquan that made this wushu to perfection.
+eden yan The first recorded baji quan teacher was Wu Zhong (吳鍾) (1712-1802). Other notable teachers included Wu Xiufeng (吳秀峰) and Li Shuwen (李書文) (1864-1934). Li Shuwen's students included Huo Dian Ge (霍殿閣) (bodyguard to Pu Yi, the last Emperor of China), Li Chenwu (bodyguard to Mao Zedong), and Liu Yun Qiao (劉雲樵) (secret agent for the nationalist Kuomintang and instructor of the Chiang Kai Shek's bodyguards). Baji quan has since acquired a reputation as the "bodyguard style". - Wikipedia
Xinyi is the style of Ma San, this character is Yixiantian (Razor), the style is bajiquan. The two characters are easy to confuse since the actors look a bit alike, and both sport a mustache and the same hairstyle. If you remember from later in the movie it says "The same year Razor started teaching, baji kungfu came to Hong Kong."
InfernosReaper check mengchun baji by the wu family. I also have a video of my teacher ( called real wushu) who is from the birth place of baji and pigua.. In that video he shows 1 tongbei, 4 baji, 1 pigua and 1 xingyi form... Besides other forms. Baji is much much more softer, because it is an internal style. This movie is awesome don't get me wrong. The xingyi was pretty spot on. Especially when u saw the dust move in that direction when the old accountant gives his presentation. That's really how it should be and what not many people can. I just wish they would have made the baji a bit more internal in this movie.
san5324 baji is internal well kown for its elbows and that movie shows elbows techniques that are used only in baji as internal martial art. Pigua and baji are combined make it more powerful. This video shows the main techniques of internal baji check in channel bajifreak this channel shows the aplications of baji
just finished reading this manga called "Kenji" that dealt with different fighting styles and the main one was Baji Quan. had to peep it being used in real time and i cant lie. this definitely did me justice lol. intense ass fight scene ~ !
THE BAJIQUAN GRANDFMASTER IN THE COMIC IS WHO THIS GUY REPRESENTS. iM DIRECT LINEAGE FROM THE REAL gm FROM THE KENJI COMIC(WHO ITS BASED FROM). THEY COUDNT USE HIS NAME IN THIS OR LIFE STORY SO SETTLED FOR THE BARBER CHARACTER. EH GOSH DARN CAPS!!
I love everything about Kenji but its ending. That manga (and to a lesser extent, Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple) is what convinced me to stick with my baji/pigua
Even though this fight used a lot of elbow strikes, they are not Baji Quan. These elbow strikes come from inner side so they are Wing Chun. Elbow strikes of Baji Quan come from outer side & move along with the advancing stance.
DUDE HAHAHA ME TOO . AFTER reading kenji i cant get enough of bajiquan and search everywhere about the martial art. by the way do you guys read "history's strongest disciple kenichi" and "holyland"? cuz both are also good martial arts manga hahaah it would also be nice if you could share me some martial arts manga
This movie is very much like trivisa. it shows the backstory of multiple characters that effect each other in multiple ways yet they themselves are unaware.
@@GodSpeed91 Yep the exact same movie. If I'm not mistaken again, the theatrical release had 30 mins of footage cut out from it. I guess The Razor vs Ip encounter was also removed in it. Lemme try to find a link for a version with that brief fight. Edit: After doing some reading, I found out that there are apparently 3 versions of The Grandmaster. - The original Hong Kong cut (130min) - The international cut (122min) - The US cut (108min). The Razor vs Ip encounter is only featured in the US version. The below article explains in greater detail the difference between each of the releases. wong-kar-wais-love-odysseys.blogspot.com/2017/09/making-sense-of-razor-of-2013s.html?m=1
ba ji quan use fist, elbow, shouler, back, knee and kick. It's very powerful movement. Ba ji quan's basic movement is using spear(Xing yi quan is basic on spear movement too, but it's little different). and they use Chen jiao, it is very unique movement in chinese martial arts. and Ba ji quan is martial arts of Islam village's people in the China.
Dong wook Kim the reason because baji uses all those is you focus mainly on the opening and closing of the hips, do basically everything is powerful when you know how to use it. This scene had nothing to do with baji. I practice it for 6+ years now with my teacher who is actually from the birth place of baji in Hebei.
It's a crime we never see this guy vs Ma San. That shit would have been insane. Also, it's pretty cool seeing all that elbow action. You don't get that often in kung fu fights.
It would definitely have been an interesting encounter, but I'm just happy that we got to see him hear the beautiful tune - that he otherwise seldom hears - while 'fighting' Ip. That was a beautiful moment.
Video games got me into the visuals of baji quan. Akira (Virtua Fighter), Julia/Leo (Tekken), Kokoro (Dead or Alive). The powerful single-hit blows or Akira's "trinity" combos that are hard to pull off (fuck his "Knee" though; da fuq iz "release G after one frame?")
Yes excatly, that's take years of hardly deadly serious training. People think that training for 2 hour in a week will lead them to this like UFC fighters train.
Granted, the depiction is probably spiced up a bit for film, given that many of the "flashy" moves in martial arts are not supposed to be the first thing you go for anyway and are only supposed to be deployed when the situation calls for it, but given that many people often call Chinese martial arts impractical or more of a dance than fighting styles, this really isn't that flashy. This is mostly very direct, brutal hammering with the bodies extremities, and to the untrained eye, it would appear to be little more than brute force with a bit of organization to it, this is pretty much what many striking styles would end up looking like in practice when utilized as intended.
This video made me look up actual practitioners of the style and when looking at the kata, it doesn't look nearly as flowery as most kung fu does. The kata and strikes look efficient, similar to karate. Like, almost sort of stiff, with hard fast strikes and pauses. It's like you get the best of both worlds, karate type strikes with kung fu flair.
@@greyelf1537 it's not "karate type" and there is no "kata". It's forms. Don't try to devalue Baji by categorizing it with karate, or try to mock kung fu. Most real Kung Fu is efficient. There's also just as many karate practitioners who couldn't handle a fight, as there are Kung Fu flunkies that just practice forms.
@@Xannyphantom905 shut the fuck up dipshit. It's my opinion and it's going unchanged. nobody wants to hear from some uppity know it all bitch pushing up his glasses screaming ACKCHUALLY!!! It's my opinion and that's final.
@@greyelf1537 I'm nobody's dipshit and I wasn't being uppity. You're being uppity with that over the top reply. Your opinion is not final, and opinions can be wrong. My comment wasn't to change your mind, what little of a mind you have. It was a comment. The only b* is that thing who squatted you out on your b-day.
Highly exaggerate, it is a movie after all, but I love how they emphasized and animated both the elbow and foot work. They capture Baji perfectly in an entertaining movie form.
there are many types of zhangs and quans, but least you'll find which part they emphasized most during movie....and if you've googled already, you'll find most kung fu masters who learnt(ed) bajiquan ended up being warlords' body guards, or entered some secret agencies established by KMT or communist, during the civil war of china and second sino japanese war....that's how they ended up their lives, there's still some "lucky" ones however, such as Ip Man, opened his own "dojo" in hong kong
You know why this is bad choreography? 88 cuts in 1:43. Camera is too zoomed in to appreciate the whole picture or the skills on display. Yes it's pretty, but shaky blurry camerawork does nothing for the choreography.
There must be so much backstory and sub plot, especially regarding the Baji master, that has been cut out of the theatrical release of this film. All you see are a few fight scenes, and a scene with Zhang Ziyi on the train. Would love to have seen more of his story.
Sifu Liu Yun Qiao is the basis for this master but his back story was cut because the movie was too long. Tehy coudnt use his name etc so he was changed up and put in HK but really LYQ went to taiwain.
Something I really like about these chinese fight choreography. Though it does has some over the top antics, spinning attacks and physic breaking stunts, the fights still look like fights and not some kind of flail-fest of flesh and metal.
Imagine a live-action movie based on Virtua Fighter, I could totally see Akira's fight scene like this (but with more stomping), sadly I don't think we'll ever get an adaptation of the game series any time soon, on the bright side I'm planning to make a short martial arts vid since I learnt Baji myself.
@@SONY95ishChinese martial arts tend to have branches of the same style. Like Bajiquan has Wu lineage/Mengcun kaimen bajiqan, WuTan lineage from Taiwan (the lineage Im learning) Han family Baji, Huo family, Ji family, Li family, Ma family, Qiang family, and Yin Yang Baji Quan
Okay, I can partially understand the studio cutting the overall film down for the American release (Yankees aren't known for their patience), but why the F*** would they shorten the action scenes?! That's what most Americans want to see from foreign martial arts movies!
Came here because i saw the Baji Quan appearing in Tekken and i thought it looked pretty cool and indeed it is cool actually saw some moves that appear in tekken in this scene
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after all those fights, moves, and rain .... HAIR STILL PERFECT.
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The cinematography in this film is simply gorgeous!
The cinematographer of this movie is Phillippe Lesourd, a high end French cinematographer who has worked on many productions including advertisements for Louis Vuitton.
The director made this poor guy train for 3 years only to have him fight in one scene
Totally worth it
@jojo twice 3 months? How did you know?
Sorry, 3 years?
How did you know?
@@ismailibrahim1354 behind the scenes documentary, also available on TH-cam. All the actors trained during the 3 years it took to finally start production of the movie. Tony leung (ip man) broke his arm, this guy Chang Chen (razor) managed to win a regional kung Fu forms championship
This guy was using a mix of bajiquan and piguaquan. Bajiquan is all elbows and close range fighting. Piguaquan is long range fighting with your hands outstretched (those of you who saw the final battle in The Matrix: Revolution saw Neo take the same Piguaquan stance this guy takes at 0:56).
They were originally one style, then they got split into 2 separate styles.
AJweathersby
I've heard that they are originally different styles and eventually one master who practices both styles decided to merge them into the "new" Bajiquan.
Not absolutely sure though.
Bajiquan is not just Close Range Fighting an Elbows it teaches also longrange Fighting in Dui Da and Feihuquan and Taizongquan forms. These are Traditional Forms. But its main Focus is Short Range thats Correct. Baji is also known as Bodyguard Style this Style of Wushu has no limits! And many traditional
Bajiquan Branches Teaches also Piguaquan that correct. That Guy in the Video uses also Pigua!
yes the slapping one is Piguaquan. i learn Xu Style Bajiquan. There is some Piguaquan too :)
I heard piquaquan and bajiquan actually was brothers, in the old times people usually practice both baji and piqua.
Baji and Pigua were once one style, and even after they split most people who practise one style also use the other. A lot of forms or moves labeled as baji will actually be partially pigua, because many people will tell you that baji is incomplete without pigua and vice versa.
Bajiquan (Eight Extremities Fist) is one the most lethal Quan Fa styles around. It is known as the “bodyguard style” due to its efficiency, proficiency and viciousness, and it is still used by Presidential bodyguards in Taiwan and China to this day. This scene from The Grand Master is truly amazing and, although a bit stylized and heavily dramatized, it showcases the style´s brutality. I have been truly fortunate enough to train in Bajiquan and I can attest to its formidable power.
I have meet a Taiwan special force member who master at Bajiquqn when I was in military training.
He can easily break any part of your bones by only holding it.
That force is not joke.
Is some kind of most ridiculously power I have ever seen.
All of his body is a weapon.
Damn, what I wouldn’t give to learn Bajiquan! 😳
Its also one of the few Chinese martial arts to have the capacity and ferocity to go up against another very well known martial art that's been very overrated over the years since the early 2005s, Muay Thai.
The guy in the video also used Piguaquan, a style of kung fu that focused on long range attacks using extended arms like using a whip. He even used a Piguaquan's stance halfway. It is usually used in combination or practiced together with Bajiquan which focused on close range attacks using elbows and knees to deliver powerful attacks in the shortest time and distance as possible.
@@joshuaamadeusishak1887 Nothing wrong with keeping your bases covered. ^^
elbows and knees and the cracking sounds ....... damn it feels hurt.......
Wentao Feng Bajiquan mainly uses the Elbows and the Knees, because they are tough and hard naturally and you don't need to train your body for Bajiquan. It hurts because it uses techniques that counter the enemy's punch. They aim the rib and many vital points and sometimes can be extremely deadly.
King Midas yea...I mean it feels hurt to the opponents....
Wentao Feng I read the Kenji manga, it's about a grandpa teaching his grandson martial art. The little kid is called Kenji and his first martial art is Bajiquan. The manga explained the techniques and what Bajiquan specializes in. My grandpa and great grandpa learned Wutang as their martial art.
Primitive Spongebob I don't learn martial arts, but I know a little bit about them. Just so you know my great grandpa and my grandfather both learn wutang and was considered a master, my grandfather took on 5 gang member and beat them up. Because they threatened my uncle and my grandma's life.
I am interested in learning that imagine learn how to master that skill good enought to beat a tae kwon do style or kick boxing
***** Bajiquan (and many of chinese kungfu) can be deadly as fatality if being done right. Bajiquan has 24 finishing moves, and 8 of them are considered lethal if performed in full power.
@Syed Murtaza 8 deadly moves btw which is better in your opinion hung gar or bajiquan?
@Erepyon where di you think is the best place to study baji chuan or where did you yourself learn the art?
The rain, setting, music, 20 thugs with knives...everything about this scene makes me think how similar it is to a typical Batman fight scene (which is awesome)
Someone had a bad day at the office 😂😂😂👏
Nice one😂😂😂
Fun fact: Bajiquan is the primary fighting style of Goku, and Gohan in the Dragon Ball Z franchise. It is also one of the building blocks of Sanshou/Sanda.
its also kotomine kirei's style from fate/zero
Both facts are ridiculous and not true
Nah, goku and gohan definitely do kung fu but I would say since in this show there so insanely strong and gifted martial artists they probably use tons of different styles. Like, baji, xing yi, tai chi, pigua, shaolin, etc.
The way he just punch away that flying knife.. Soooo guuuuuud
edison7300037 It's true that bajiquan is the martial art that often use by bodyguards in China, even both the bodyguard of Mao Zedong and Chiang Kai-shek practice this art.
But, for the lucky ones bajiquan master who survived, I think you're not giving the right example. Yip Man wasn't a bajiquan master, but a wing chun master, and these are different arts.
As for the bajiquan master who survived the war, it was in fact one of the secret agent of KMT, named Liu Yun Qiao. He died in 1992.
but...i said kung fu masters...okay, i guess my english was worse enough to misslead you.
edison7300037 Oh, I see. It's because you didn't say just "kungfu masters", but you said "kungfu masters who learned bajiquan". Ah, doesn't matter. I'm at wrong too :)
Erepyon bullshit. All Taiwan baji sucks... Check my teacher his baji in my channel, he is 79, from the birth place of baji in Hebei and been practicing wushu since 6. Vidyis called real wushu and he shows 4 baji forms.. They start after xingyi
san5324 Mmm... I just stated some history about Bajiquan and its practitioners. If you think their style of baji sucks, and your teacher's style is better, then that's another matter. I won't counter that as I'm not an expertise to which martial art is better than the other.
Anyone know we're I can witch grandmaster for free
You can see some Pigua movements as well (the styles share roots and many Baji schools mix in some Pigua to complement their style)
I was in a fight like this once, but I came out with 64 stab wounds. Am I awesome or what?
This guy's forearms are probably harder then a steel pipe. There's a difference between choreography, and the actual martial art it's derived from. I could totally see Bajiquan's Elbow, and Forearm strikes in Self Defense situations.
Mistaa Spaakles u are awesome that u survived
Mistaa Spaakles u forgot the epic music
+Mistaa Spaakles I was in a fight like this too.
We really stabbed the hell out of that one guy.
what a lucky fellow...it's good to survive
This video and Akira Yuki are what inspired me to practice Bajiquan!
This a great fight scene and not only should the Razor get his own movie but there should be more movie fight scenes featuring Bajiquan
I’m working on learning this martial arts
Try Mad Dog (the Raid) who is a professional and arduous in pencak silat
Don't forget kokoro from Dead or Alive too.
@@NelsonWin and Leo from Tekken 😁
@@ryunekoyashiki akira yuki is the poster boy for Bajiquan.
the music, the fight style, the fact that they all have swords and he doesn't. perfect. they should've just made the movie about the razor and how he gives perfect shaves and pulverizes bad guys in his spare time.
+Kevin Sandor the 'razor' is believe to be based on the hitman who died in taiwan at 1992 in his 80's. Many believed he was THE most succesful hitman (or agent or 007 whatever you may call it) that chinese (KMD) send beyond enemy (Japan) line, since this wushu 'Bajiquan' is unarmed, up close, brutal (broken bones and internal bleeding) and personal. At that time, it makes the perfect choice for assassinate: get close unnoticed, kill a few key targets leave no trace (bullet shell, melee weapon type and other equipments). Until today, he is still believed to be one of a few user of Bajiquan that made this wushu to perfection.
+eden yan The first recorded baji quan teacher was Wu Zhong (吳鍾) (1712-1802). Other notable teachers included Wu Xiufeng (吳秀峰) and Li Shuwen (李書文) (1864-1934). Li Shuwen's students included Huo Dian Ge (霍殿閣) (bodyguard to Pu Yi, the last Emperor of China), Li Chenwu (bodyguard to Mao Zedong), and Liu Yun Qiao (劉雲樵) (secret agent for the nationalist Kuomintang and instructor of the Chiang Kai Shek's bodyguards). Baji quan has since acquired a reputation as the "bodyguard style". - Wikipedia
+Kevin Sandor Yup the Liu Yun Qiao (劉雲樵) in your quote here is believe to be the hitman that 'razor' is based on.
I know! so lame that they cut out his parts in the American version - reportedly there loads of Razor scenes that didn't make it into any version.
They should have made the movie about.. oh oh sometimes.. I got a good feeling.. yeah. But yeah, Razor rules!
Xinyi is the style of Ma San, this character is Yixiantian (Razor), the style is bajiquan. The two characters are easy to confuse since the actors look a bit alike, and both sport a mustache and the same hairstyle. If you remember from later in the movie it says "The same year Razor started teaching, baji kungfu came to Hong Kong."
Damn I think I just found my favorite style!
sincitydude31 I practice baji for 6 years and sorry to break your bubble this is nothing to the real deal.
Do you have an example of the real deal, because I'm actually genuinely interested.
InfernosReaper check mengchun baji by the wu family. I also have a video of my teacher ( called real wushu) who is from the birth place of baji and pigua.. In that video he shows 1 tongbei, 4 baji, 1 pigua and 1 xingyi form... Besides other forms. Baji is much much more softer, because it is an internal style. This movie is awesome don't get me wrong. The xingyi was pretty spot on. Especially when u saw the dust move in that direction when the old accountant gives his presentation. That's really how it should be and what not many people can. I just wish they would have made the baji a bit more internal in this movie.
Ah, thank you. I will look into it.
san5324 baji is internal well kown for its elbows and that movie shows elbows techniques that are used only in baji as internal martial art. Pigua and baji are combined make it more powerful. This video shows the main techniques of internal baji check in channel bajifreak this channel shows the aplications of baji
just finished reading this manga called "Kenji" that dealt with different fighting styles and the main one was Baji Quan. had to peep it being used in real time and i cant lie. this definitely did me justice lol. intense ass fight scene ~ !
telepathy90 That is a very great manga.
agreed!
There is a guy in Gantz that uses bajiquan.
THE BAJIQUAN GRANDFMASTER IN THE COMIC IS WHO THIS GUY REPRESENTS. iM DIRECT LINEAGE FROM THE REAL gm FROM THE KENJI COMIC(WHO ITS BASED FROM).
THEY COUDNT USE HIS NAME IN THIS OR LIFE STORY SO SETTLED FOR THE BARBER CHARACTER. EH GOSH DARN CAPS!!
I love everything about Kenji but its ending. That manga (and to a lesser extent, Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple) is what convinced me to stick with my baji/pigua
Mr Anderson, welcome back... We miss you... Oh, wrong movie 😂😂😂
Even though this fight used a lot of elbow strikes, they are not Baji Quan. These elbow strikes come from inner side so they are Wing Chun. Elbow strikes of Baji Quan come from outer side & move along with the advancing stance.
Exactly
I saw this in the theater with my cousin when it came out, the only thing my cousin could say after this scene was "fuck..."
watch this after read manga "kenji"
love Kenji. Very Specific on the art and others. wish it was ongoing
like u cmt after watch a takizawa laure flim
caraka dibya dewangga One of the most realistic martial art manga out there... I learn so much about the beauty of Kung fu from it.
caraka dibya dewangga Go watch the actual movie.
DUDE HAHAHA ME TOO . AFTER reading kenji i cant get enough of bajiquan and search everywhere about the martial art. by the way do you guys read "history's strongest disciple kenichi" and "holyland"? cuz both are also good martial arts manga hahaah it would also be nice if you could share me some martial arts manga
That scene was shot so well!
My favorite fight scene in this movie. Your boy went IN!
It's Bajiquan, a lot of elbows, shoulder and body checks. Very explosive style focused on power.
when you want an early leave from work and the bosses henchmen try to stop you
BajiQuan!
😉😁.
This scene is absolutely insanely awesome.
Especially the music while Razor is fighting these dudes.
great movie In my opinion the best of all the ip man's
Lots of Chang Chen, elbows, knives, cracking, and splatting. Siiiick.
Me walking out of a shop and there's this hella bar fight: "Sir, I just want to go home"
Seen the movie, was expecting Ip Man vs this Razor guy :( I wanna see them fight each other so bad.
This movie is very much like trivisa. it shows the backstory of multiple characters that effect each other in multiple ways yet they themselves are unaware.
If I'm not mistaken, there are two versions of this movie. And in the other one, they do fight.
@@_Mayibongwe which one ? With same actors ?
@@GodSpeed91 Yep the exact same movie. If I'm not mistaken again, the theatrical release had 30 mins of footage cut out from it. I guess The Razor vs Ip encounter was also removed in it. Lemme try to find a link for a version with that brief fight.
Edit:
After doing some reading, I found out that there are apparently 3 versions of The Grandmaster.
- The original Hong Kong cut (130min)
- The international cut (122min)
- The US cut (108min).
The Razor vs Ip encounter is only featured in the US version. The below article explains in greater detail the difference between each of the releases.
wong-kar-wais-love-odysseys.blogspot.com/2017/09/making-sense-of-razor-of-2013s.html?m=1
@@_Mayibongwe WOW, thanks man, was there an actual fight between them ? Who won that fight ?
Am I the only one who thinks The Razor needs his own movie?
Well children, I hope you all learnt something from that.
Everything blossoms unt.
I learned an umbrella is better than a knife when it rains.
The style used is Ma Family Tongbei Baji 马氏通备八极，the pinnacle of combining Baji and Pigua techniques.
Yunpeng Du 馬氏通背八極
I'd love to see a video demonstration of this Baji lineage
这是吴氏开门八极及大八极。
No it’s not , baji and pigua and tongbei are 3 styles that compliment each other very well .
ba ji quan use fist, elbow, shouler, back, knee and kick. It's very powerful movement. Ba ji quan's basic movement is using spear(Xing yi quan is basic on spear movement too, but it's little different). and they use Chen jiao, it is very unique movement in chinese martial arts. and Ba ji quan is martial arts of Islam village's people in the China.
Dong wook Kim bajiquan uses the back?
Dong wook Kim the reason because baji uses all those is you focus mainly on the opening and closing of the hips, do basically everything is powerful when you know how to use it. This scene had nothing to do with baji. I practice it for 6+ years now with my teacher who is actually from the birth place of baji in Hebei.
Yes Eight Pole Fist is power ful
It's a crime we never see this guy vs Ma San. That shit would have been insane. Also, it's pretty cool seeing all that elbow action. You don't get that often in kung fu fights.
It would definitely have been an interesting encounter, but I'm just happy that we got to see him hear the beautiful tune - that he otherwise seldom hears - while 'fighting' Ip. That was a beautiful moment.
The jacket flick at the end, like hes saying, "Youre all a waste of my time."
i'm am so glad that i learn martial art and by seeing how it works it just so impressive.
I want to see more of this Baji mannnnn
So perfectly done each fight scene, its like science
break this neck, break that neck.
BREAK ALL THEORY NECKS!
"snap, crackle, pop"
+Cyberneticxylem More like "Snap, crackle, death." xD
When your one handed skill reaches legendary.😀
This dudes observation and armament haki are on point.
One of the most beautifully filmed movies ever.
Video games got me into the visuals of baji quan. Akira (Virtua Fighter), Julia/Leo (Tekken), Kokoro (Dead or Alive). The powerful single-hit blows or Akira's "trinity" combos that are hard to pull off (fuck his "Knee" though; da fuq iz "release G after one frame?")
its all about move speed and force include strategy
Yes excatly, that's take years of hardly deadly serious training.
People think that training for 2 hour in a week will lead them to this like UFC fighters train.
The Razor is the coolest character in the movie. For the life of me I can't figure out WHY he's in the movie at all.
nheuk3 the original version is like 4 hours but they have to cut it
Granted, the depiction is probably spiced up a bit for film, given that many of the "flashy" moves in martial arts are not supposed to be the first thing you go for anyway and are only supposed to be deployed when the situation calls for it, but given that many people often call Chinese martial arts impractical or more of a dance than fighting styles, this really isn't that flashy. This is mostly very direct, brutal hammering with the bodies extremities, and to the untrained eye, it would appear to be little more than brute force with a bit of organization to it, this is pretty much what many striking styles would end up looking like in practice when utilized as intended.
This video made me look up actual practitioners of the style and when looking at the kata, it doesn't look nearly as flowery as most kung fu does. The kata and strikes look efficient, similar to karate. Like, almost sort of stiff, with hard fast strikes and pauses. It's like you get the best of both worlds, karate type strikes with kung fu flair.
@@greyelf1537 it's not "karate type" and there is no "kata". It's forms. Don't try to devalue Baji by categorizing it with karate, or try to mock kung fu. Most real Kung Fu is efficient.
There's also just as many karate practitioners who couldn't handle a fight, as there are Kung Fu flunkies that just practice forms.
@@Xannyphantom905 shut the fuck up dipshit. It's my opinion and it's going unchanged. nobody wants to hear from some uppity know it all bitch pushing up his glasses screaming ACKCHUALLY!!! It's my opinion and that's final.
@@greyelf1537 I'm nobody's dipshit and I wasn't being uppity. You're being uppity with that over the top reply. Your opinion is not final, and opinions can be wrong.
My comment wasn't to change your mind, what little of a mind you have. It was a comment. The only b* is that thing who squatted you out on your b-day.
@@Xannyphantom905 as a Baji practitioner myself, props for keeping the know-nothings in line. I can't be bothered
Seriously, what is the soundtrack?! It is fantastic!
None in the list
X-Ray Dog - Black Ice
@15Patronus I thought you were trolling with that song title 😂 thanks
now that was an a*s whoopin
beautiful fight scene! like Brazil 😊✌
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, bajiquan and thai muay are kind of similar, for all using elbow hits much.
This kind of skill is not fighting. Is try to kill in little time so every part he strike is the weakest parts of human body.
When you are fighting against so many people, this is the only way to fight if you want to come out alive in the end.
Translate what I said
這是中國的一種外家功夫叫八極拳 招招致命出名的
How to fight the gangsta.
America : using guns.
Chinese : using kung-fu.
Highly exaggerate, it is a movie after all, but I love how they emphasized and animated both the elbow and foot work. They capture Baji perfectly in an entertaining movie form.
HsinHao Wang Do u know Baji?)
1:21 never gets old
Anything in Baji Quan is explosive! I bet its a good match for a rain fight!
wow, that was pretty bad ass
0:37-0:42 bro took 7 brutal elbow strikes
Best of Chang Chen.
ANNNND HE Is the very definition of "Throwing them bows"
there are many types of zhangs and quans, but least you'll find which part they emphasized most during movie....and if you've googled already, you'll find most kung fu masters who learnt(ed) bajiquan ended up being warlords' body guards, or entered some secret agencies established by KMT or communist, during the civil war of china and second sino japanese war....that's how they ended up their lives, there's still some "lucky" ones however, such as Ip Man, opened his own "dojo" in hong kong
Oh my God, this the best fight scene I have ever seen in my life
Surprised that Xiao Si’r (from A Brighter Summer Day) is grown up and a Bajiquan master (Xian’s Si’r and Razor are played by the same actor FYI)
I like how he just throws the guy into a wall head first
Li shuwen..
When people think Kung Fu is dancing, then the elbows arrive 😂
You know why this is bad choreography? 88 cuts in 1:43. Camera is too zoomed in to appreciate the whole picture or the skills on display. Yes it's pretty, but shaky blurry camerawork does nothing for the choreography.
There must be so much backstory and sub plot, especially regarding the Baji master, that has been cut out of the theatrical release of this film. All you see are a few fight scenes, and a scene with Zhang Ziyi on the train. Would love to have seen more of his story.
Sifu Liu Yun Qiao is the basis for this master but his back story was cut because the movie was too long. Tehy coudnt use his name etc so he was changed up and put in HK but really LYQ went to taiwain.
@@Kaanan No kidding, Liu Yunqiao was the basis of this character??
This movie is classic.
The rain made the fight scene sound more brutal
Who is here knowing kotomine kirei from fate stay night uses super bajiquan
I enjoyed watching this fight scene the most
Something I really like about these chinese fight choreography. Though it does has some over the top antics, spinning attacks and physic breaking stunts, the fights still look like fights and not some kind of flail-fest of flesh and metal.
He's so bad he's the only one stays dry while fighting in the rain. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Beautiful
There's something romantic about wong kar wai's films even the fighting scenes look soft and cool. And philip did a great job
Body check is a signature move in Bajiquan. I can’t teach you for nothing. Bring me some aged Laojiu, the 8 liter jugs. - Shenmue 3
Leo from tekken 7 happy as shit right now
Leo Kliesen took inspiration from this.
Imagine a live-action movie based on Virtua Fighter, I could totally see Akira's fight scene like this (but with more stomping), sadly I don't think we'll ever get an adaptation of the game series any time soon, on the bright side I'm planning to make a short martial arts vid since I learnt Baji myself.
which lineage? not a lineage snob just askin :)
@@Kaanan What do you mean Lineage? I'm confused by your question, could you please re-elaborate?
@@KaananAkira’s lineage of Bajiquan is Wu lineage.
@@SONY95ishChinese martial arts tend to have branches of the same style. Like Bajiquan has Wu lineage/Mengcun kaimen bajiqan, WuTan lineage from Taiwan (the lineage Im learning) Han family Baji, Huo family, Ji family, Li family, Ma family, Qiang family, and Yin Yang Baji Quan
@@camiloiribarren1450 Wow had no idea of this.
Ok so is it fair to say that this dude is as skilled, or more so than Ip? I mean this is some superhuman shit right here even for an Ip Man movie.
i like chinese people, but honestly i m jealousing from thier beautiful fighting styles and thier gymnastics.
All my favorite kung fu styles shows in this movie. But this guy and ip man fight scene was best. And also Gong Ers fight scenes was awesome.
Damn, that man look slim, but he got power!
Those hammer fist strikes at 0:29 ,,,,,,, it's like part Loonytunes, part bad-ass martial arts.
I wanted to see an Akira Yuki shoulder check...
Awesome thank you
That double punch looks really cool.
Okay, I can partially understand the studio cutting the overall film down for the American release (Yankees aren't known for their patience), but why the F*** would they shorten the action scenes?! That's what most Americans want to see from foreign martial arts movies!
The best fight scene!
Pretty much all fight scenes shown in this site about this movie.
anyone know the song when razor and ip man have their little swing at each other? it's an amazing song and I'd love to hear it in its entirety
That's from the opera Norma. The aria Casta Diva.
+Fernando Reyes thanks I appreciate the help
"When baji is added to pigua, both gods and demons will tremble. When pigua is added to baji, heroes will sigh knowing they are no match against it."
This fight is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reminds me of myself as a younger man. I would show up to fights with a three piece suit, and use martial arts.
Came here because i saw the Baji Quan appearing in Tekken and i thought it looked pretty cool and indeed it is cool actually saw some moves that appear in tekken in this scene
When u seen it appear in tekken
Also read Kenji its all about bajiquan
I come here after seeing li shuwen from the fate series
Damn, that is one dapper badass.
Dude qualified to become batman