How Is Using the SMOOTH 4 Gimbal with FiLMiC PRO?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video we give our first impressions and a quick overview of working with the Zhiyun-Tech Smooth 4 gimbal and its integration with the FiLMiC Pro app. We also compare and contrast the Smooth 4 to its predecessor the Smooth Q gimbal (which we have used for a while and really like).
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I'm absorbing many videos about my gimbal, or arm as I like to call it. Thanks for creating this!
Smooth 4 arrived today ready for this wedding 👰 I’ve got to film tomorrow. Glad I got it. Combined with Filmic Pro it hands down beats the Osmo Mobile 3 gimbal.
Thanks for sharing your wonderful video
I have a smooth 4 gimbal
It’s really heavy not comfortable to use
I bought this and use it with my Huawei p20 pro and it works really well! Love being able to pull focus!
Good for phone using phone, thanks this important info. Two thumps up for me.
Thanks for the well presented information. I'm just getting into this Smartphone connection with film-quality images. It is amazing.
Really like your presentation style, chilled and informative and yes, less is more. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
The best overview... Simple yet rich of information...
THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL! THANK YOU
Man, the editing of this video is stellar.
Thank you!
This video is so well made. I love the rhythm & flow of the content & features. As a voice-over artist myself, the VO artist (possibly creator) here is extremely clear and well articulated.
Even though you kept reminding us it wasn't a tutorial, it did share a few vital tips. Tks for sharing. SM4 owner here
Thanks for watching and the feedback! We just didn’t want people to mistake this video as an in-depth app tutorial. :) And appreciate the editing & VO compliments! 👍🏻 Always trying to improve.
@@iphoneographers Pleasure. I don't even own an iPhone but ended up watching 4 vids of yours in a row. Well done. Best wishes for your future & current endeavours
Thank you! 👍🏻
Starts at 2:04
Np
New KING thank you lol
Thanks for this very impormative👍🏻👍🏻
wow...i really like this video...just give me more info about smooth4...
I have the SMooth 4, BEST purchase this year for me. :)
Good deal! We’ve found it to be a very good gimbal as well.
Nice unboxing and review. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your tips bro
Thanks for information about the video sir very informative
little heavy duty piece of velcro at the end of the axis and on another end of the actual zhiyun counter balance and it will balance the moment wide perfectly. that lens i think is 79g or something,zhiyun sells a counter balance for $15 or so on amazon that's got a thread you can file off. or keep.
Love this video
Thank you for clearing up the concept; I appreciate it.
I need to watch this!!!
Thanks for share, with that explain I'll buy it right now
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful.
Nice to see that the Smooth 4 integrates with Filmic Pro now. I might have to pick one up because the integration and control with Filmic Pro looks amazing (I should have waited). I purchased the Osmo 2 and it really struggles with the iPhone 7+ and Moment lenses even with the counterweight...even more than my Smooth Q. I use the Crane 2 with my DSLR and it really is nice to be able to control camera functions from the handle of the gimbal, but having a gimbal that controls the iPhone in a compact form factor is next level!
OrganicFarmer I was actually thinking to buy the Osmo 2 instead of the Smooth 4.. you think the smooth 4 is better ?
Am here for the intro music :D
Great shots! I just find that this is such a long setup. Balancing and all...
Thanks for sharing, btw how did you do the 360 rotation with zhiyun smooth 4?
good Review
Nice...so good...💫💫💫💫
Wow, drive safely bro
I would really like a smooth 4 now its integrated with filmic pro. The setup would be so much faster than the Crane M i'm using. i'd like to counter balance the ExoLens on it though, which is probably similar weight to the Moment lens - if your able to explore this further i'd be keen to see it!
We’re going to do that for sure! It works with the Moment, just felt a tad bit sluggish. But, we haven’t done much real world shooting with it yet. Our Smooth Q held it fine - so we think the Smooth 4 will be okay, too. Just our initial feeling is a bare-bones setup is probably ideal for it (but that probably applies to most smartphone gimbals).
WOW I LIKE YOUR CHANNEL MATE!
Thanks for watching!
Very good
This us literally the setup I'm planning on getting and you have a video for me. Do you work for the FBI?
Great video thanks. Have you guys covered the @dreamgrip rig/lenses?
Thanks! We have not used their gear yet, although we are familiar with it. We’ll look into it. 👍🏻
I really wanted to like this gimbal, but there are 2 features that were part of my requirements to purchase. I wanted something that has good active tracking and pano. The other features are battery life, ease of use, and weight. These features it has. The weight was on the heavy side but I thought I can live with it. The smooth 4’s active tracking was very bad, and the pano was very slow.
Just got my iPhone XS max today and was wondering if this Smooth 4 is compatible with it. Thanks great video!
Awesome! Would like to hear how it works for you.
How does your iPhone XS Max perform with the Smooth 4?
i heard it can't balance the iphone xs Max
Good Job
I wish there was a behind the scenes video for the unboxing portion of this video. Those angles and transitions were cool ;-) Curious how many cameras you used?
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it. Used two cameras and then in editing reframed & repositioned different shots to make it look like there were more. Shot in 4K and edited in HD so there’s plenty of room in the footage to move it around without degrading it. 👍🏻
One thing that can help the "up and down" movement of the image while walking is shooting at 60fps and set playback at 24fps. Looks great! Of course, it will depend on what you're shooting.
Yes, great tip! Shooting slow motion definitely smooths out everything. But, like you say depends on what you’re shooting. Thanks!
I stay in DJI M2 with Filmic pro so smooth
Good vdo like it
old school method of keeping the "up and down" comment under better control is to use some weight. either screw something into the bottom of the gamble, or use a (example: 5Lb wrist weight for exercise). we used to do this when gimbles cost 60 grand. works rather well as a cheap steady cam.
I have a smooth q and i think is not neccesary to upgrade to this except you chase the zoom in or out feature. The other just the same but smooth q better bcause never lose bluetooth connection and more compact size with nice carying case.
We like the Smooth Q a lot! Main reason to upgrade to us is the Filmic Pro integration with the gimbal. You can’t control it the same way with the Smooth Q.
Do you have to always run wifi to film on the smoothq , because am on a prepaid phone and alot of time I run out on wifi service
No, you don’t have to do that.
Thank you for the good information. Will you show how to share the vedio. Thanks.
wowwow in the intro
Good for product
Which one should I buy for Android phone - zhiyun smooth 4 or smooth Q2 ? I heard zhiyun app compatibility issues with android so, should I go with zhiyun or other gimbal.. any recommendations ?
Guys, could you help me? I've just downloaded Filmic Pro and tried to pair them by going to that gear icon and selected hardware but the problem is, SHIYUN isn't on the display. I just see 3 selections including dgi osmo. What should I do pls..
It should say Smooth 4 then you tap that to connect via Bluetooth. Hope you got it figured out!
Do you have to buy the additional remote app for this?
Hi. Do you have to sign in or something like that?
He mentioned like 10%of the epic features.
Great tutorial. I am learning it right now, and I find that the “menu” button on the Smooth 4 does absolutely nothing in Filmic Pro. What is you experience?
Believe that button lets you exit out of menus or go back. Don’t have the gimbal right now to confirm, but don’t actually use that much. If you haven’t watched the Epic Tutorials video on this they go into more details on the controls... th-cam.com/video/iVA9JA-P-yQ/w-d-xo.html. Thanks for watching!
iPhoneographers I’ve watched it several times, but it does not do at least on my Zhiyun 4 anything. I will ask the filmic pro people. Thanks so much. I am loving your tutorials!!
Nice
Can I use this for my hero 4 sir? thanks
Haven’t tried it on this, but works well on others like the Smooth Q.
Love all your videos and am sold on the Zhiyun 4 but wonder if I can find a right angle lightning cable to 3.5 Mini female or lightning right angle male to female lightning. I want to plug a mike into my phone because sometimes I actually want to use my voice! Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for watching! Have seen right angle Lightning to micro USB for charging, but not 3.5mm. Of course there is the regular adapter that Apple makes it’s not right angle but it will adapt Lightning to 3.5mm.
I LOVED VIDEO! DOES THE APP WORK WITH IPHONE 11 PRO MAX AND SAMSUNG NOTE 10 +?
Thanks! And yes Filmic Pro works on both.
Professional presentation! I recently bought the original Smooth Q for a test with my iPhone and found that my landscape video ends up in portrait mode after "saving" to iPhone Photos. Any suggestions on how to prevent this? Also, after "setting the exposure", the exposure changes during shooting according to different lighting conditions. Any idea how to lock the exposure? I hope this is operator error, but I would like to confirm that the ZY app is working properly BEFORE investing in the Smooth 4. Thank you for your feedback and look forward to more excellent presentations related to video technology! glen.
I am not an expert on the ZY play app, I rarely use it except to set up the gimbal. I typically use third-party apps like Filmic Pro, which you can use with a Smooth 4.
Sounds like it’s possible that orientation lock is turned on or was on when you were shooting. Locking the exposure usually happens when you press on the reticle and hold it down, otherwise it will shift.
The Smooth 4 is a great gimbal, but again, I would recommend using a third-party app. Thanks for watching!
I use it with my Sony Z5
Great video, could you review the Ashanks camera slider (will be sponsored by Ashanks) ?
Well, nice video and pretty cool app, its too bad you have to buy it on iphone to try it. Yes, the best is put iphone without a case in clamp, with case i felt like it will drop out somehow. And one more thing I found out, when filming in the wind, it sounds so loud so I ordered Boya microphone, and ring with hot shoe to attach it.
Thank you for video, I subscribed
Thanks for watching and subbing! Filmic Pro is available for iOS and Android. Some Android phones won’t work with it though, but it is cross platform.
iPhoneographers some android phones wont work with Zhiyun app too, they work but you cannnot call it work as the app freezes every minute, when I tried zoom wheel it stopped completely, so I had to restart app and trie agai. All that was with LG G6 phone which I had, now I have iphone and it works flawless
Ah ok, good to know. Thanks for the info!
zdravo iPhone still has the best video camera on any smartphone, not a deal at all.
The Ace of Spades really its truth, i tried many good android phones but iphone is better in its speed, camera and design too, as I work in phone repair shop I can confirm that they are good when it comes to screen or battery replacement ;)
smooth-round means easier to slip and loose control also. Does it rely on dedicated vdo shoot app or I can use any gimbal or vdo app ? I hear the Q2 can use any app. ?? Filmic is for vdo shoot app.; or gimbal control ?
I hope we'll have that in the Philippines?
Does either have BT audio like the FT spg2 ?
Does either let you usse your own phone vdo shooting app. ie. not dedicated to locked in . But then the control app can't control all your vdo options on your phone. Give and take vs integrated gimbal to the vdo app. Date/time on the vdo frames is std ?
I have the same setup Smooth 4 with iPhone 8 Plus. Did you encounter any wobbly effects due to the phone’s built in optical image stabilization? I can’t disable it on the phone because it’s mechanically builtin. And filmic Pro can only do it by software. I was told to use a magnet to counter the phones OIS. What are your thoughts?
The OIS is hardware based, so you can’t disable it. Using a gimbal though we haven’t experienced many, if any, issues though.
We definitely have had problems with it with bumps shooting handheld or even on a tripod if the camera gets hit (even slightly hit). So yeah, it kinda sucks for video. But we just really pay attention to it and avoid circumstances where it could affect things.
Haven’t tried the magnet trick, but have heard the new XS phones are much better and almost eliminate the problem. We’re upgrading pretty soon and will he testing this.
When u switch to ultra wide mode the gimbal also will be participate in ur cinema 😂
Tanks. Love your channel. I own a Osmo Mobile 2. Don’t know if make the switch to the Zhiyun Smooth 4...maybe a comparative test of this 2 gimbals with FilmicPro can help 😉.
Thanks! We are hoping to make that video. 😎 We’ll be getting an Osmo 2 for some comparisons in the near future.
There are tons of comparison video of the two on TH-cam.
nospam 1950 tanks...will take a look
I did not found a comparison of the 2 gimbals with FilmicPro compatibility comparison. Can you please post a link?
Andrea Turbolz -- Search TH-cam using "smooth 4 vs osmo mobile 2" and you'll find more videos than you care to watch.
When using a gimbal, do you recommend turning off the Filmic Pro in app stabilization or keeping it on?
We leave it on.
hey!
I love the software.The software is superior to all. But the Holem Isteady is smoother. It really is. I can see a slight bounce in movement in your footage.
There’s definitely some bounce. Was just getting a feel for the gimbal. Haven’t heard of the one you mentioned though. Will look for it.
what counter weight you use for Zhiyun smooth 4 in this VDO 7:57
Pretty cool. I finally picked up an iphone 11. Do you still like this Zhiyun with filmic pro? Any others out there to compare for filmic pro integration? I’ve done a fair amount with DJI Osmo + and other Osmo’s....and they are too compressed, breaking handles etc. not going to bother fixing them. Maybe go this route for a fun portable shoot anywhere camera?
The Smooth 4 is still solid but payload not great for larger phones. The DJI Osmo Mobile 3 is one to look at too in that price range. The best options are probably the FeiyuTech G6 Max or Zhiyun Crane M2. The newer Smooth Q is nice also.
iPhoneographers Sort of leaning towards a DJI Osmo Mobile 3 for starter.. and then later a Zhiyun Crane or other better gimbal. DJI to look like a tourist and be invisible and easily stash in jacket pocket. Hmmmm. I forget.. did the Osmo Mobile 3 go into flashlight mode for the ultra wide?
For anyone who has bought this, how does this hold up? Is it still working great because I’m considering buying this.
I cant use saramonic blink 500 with Iphone 6 plas
Is there a way to include other units onto the user list? I would like to use the features on my SMOVE-Mobile with FiLMiC PRO?
Right now they support this gimbal and the DJI Osmo Mobile. Not sure about future integrations though.
Good
How about tracking subjects ???
If I had to choose between the Smooth 4, M2 and Smooth Q2, what are the different features and why would i buy one over another? Please let me know. I will choose one of these three for use with a smartphone and the new GoPro. Thanks! :) Or should I get a DJI Osmo Pocket?
Only get the M2 if you have other type of heavier cameras. If you’re using for smartphones or action cameras only then that wouldn’t be our first choice. Haven’t used the new Smooth Q2 yet. We’re getting one soon though. The others are a tossup. The DJI will hold more weight. Lots of great choices out there for gimbals right now.
I have also bought the Smooth 4. Will i have all features available when using FilmicPro or is this only possible with app from zhiyun? Thx
The stuff like tracking etc are only with the Zhiyun app. The benefits of using Filmic Pro are the UI of their app and the manual controls along with the ability to shoot high bit rates and in cinematic log or flat gamma curves.
Thanks a lot for your answer!
Esse gimbal tem opção de rodar 180° ou 360°?
Awesome video! Do you know if there is any other gimbal (or ways) to remotely control our focus on FilmiC Pro without touching the screen? OBS: not talking about programmed focus, but live manual focus (I cam from manual DSLR and this freedom on focusing is the most important thing to me now that I'm thinking on acquire one) Thank you in advance! 🙏🏻📱🇧🇷
You might look at the companion app for Filmic Pro called Filmic Remote. You can control the focus, exposure, WB, etc. from another phone or an iPad.
@@iphoneographers thanks for the response! As a brazilian, you might know that every single imported product around here is very expensive and we're constantly looking for the cheaper way to achieve what we want to do, that's why I asked if there is any other gimbal options available, keeping in mind that I don't have another smartphone or iPad, just my S10+. Yesterday I saw a OM4 review that says you can control the focus adjustments by connecting with FiLMiC Pro right on the joystick (up and down), do you know anything about this?
Oh ok, I see… Then yes the OM4 will connect within Filmic Pro to control some features. It’s a nice gimbal for phone only setups. It’s not great if you need to add accessories like lenses, etc., but most smartphone gimbals aren’t. Overall it’s a solid option.
@@iphoneographers that's right, my friend... thanks for your help btw! I'm thinking on get some rig + lens case + anamorphic lens, and try to work with post stabilization instead... hope it works on most of the situations 🙏🏻📱
why don't you tryed the zoom?? i have huawei p20pro, when I zoom, it crash!
How did u change layout plz tell
Can there be a zhiyun apk for kitkat
looks much better with latest smartphones like XS Max.
I was enjoying using FiLMiC Pro with the Smooth 4 for over a month. Then I hooked up the ZY Play app and used the gimbal once with that app. I have since been unable to connect my FiLMiC Pro to the Smooth 4 gimbal. I have re-downloaded both apps losing all my presets and still cannot connect Filmic Pro to the Smooth 4, even without ZY Play app on my phone.
Yes there’s a problem with the Zhiyun SDK and so it’s not working for everyone right now. Told a fix is in the works though. Heard a temp fix is to manually set your phone clock back to an earlier date.
iPhoneographers Thank you for the reply. I also today encountered a problem with the Filmic Remote for the first time in two months. The record button went read during recording but without my glasses on I didn’t notice the counter was evidently not moving. I lost five scenes of a class video today. Whole day lost. I tested it later and verified that it won’t sync up properly now with the filmic pro app on my iPhone 11. I also had trouble with the focus reticule working if that’s of any help.
Would I still need to use the zhiyun app for the initial setup?
It’s probably best to update the firmware etc using the app.
Nice review. Got a couple test vid in my channel too :)
I am looking at upgrading my EVO Shift to a Smooth 4 because of the Filmic Pro integration but a couple of things are giving me pause for thought.
1. No joystick. I like being able to pan and tilt with my thumb. That's highly useful when holding it out the car window to get low shots, rather than bending a wrist.
2. This is more general. Connecting a mic. Most gimbals seem to have the Lightning connector (I'm on iPhone) up against the gimbal. Plugging in a mic throws it off balance.
Any general tips on that, or is buying and rebalancing with a counterweight the way to go?
Thanks in advance for any guidance. Keep up the good work!
Lack of a joystick is a concern for many, but it works ok without it. And mics can be tricky too! You might consider a DJI Osmo if you’re looking for a smartphone only gimbal. Or look at larger “hybrid” like the Moza Mini-P or FeiyuTech G6 Max.
@@iphoneographers Thanks for the reply. I appreciate you taking the effort. I'll explore.
This might be a dumb question but how do I put it in selfie mode?
Click the camera icon button on the right side just below the dial.
Is it compatible with Samsung S9 and Samsung Note 9? Thank you. Nice Video.
They have a free Filmic Evaluator app that will see if your device is compatible. So download to confirm, but believe the S9 is supported.
@@iphoneographers Okay. Thank you.
A very important question I hope you can help.. Is Filmic Pro on S9 Plus compatible with Smooth 4? Your answer would be a great help. Thank you
Have found that if FP works on your phone then it will work with the gimbal.
@@iphoneographers thank you. So this means I do not need the ZY Play since it won't capture 4k on S9?
I wish i can buy one
Is there any way to pan pan this thing manually...
In osmo we have joystick in it...
Yes me also searching for that.😌
How are you able to charge your Apple iPhone while docked in the smooth 4 when the charging port is obstructed?..tia
We don’t on this one as our phone will last fine if charged first. But, you can use an L cable and slide the phone down to charge it. That is one nice thing about the Moza gimbal having wireless charging if you need it.
I have the same problem with the bluetooth connection.
Currently there's a bundle for "Filmix pro Camera Kit" Inside there's Filmic Pro and Filmic Remote. Is it worth/necessary/ a must to get it as a bundle or just Filmic pro is enough
If you want to control it with an iPad or another phone it is cool to have, otherwise though you don’t really need it.
Best gimbal you can advice for beginner with iPhone 7
This one is pretty nice, but you might like the DJI Osmo Mobile 2 better as it’s probably a little easier to control. We have links to a variety of stuff on our website... www.iphoneographers.tv/apps-gear
How did you shot the roll axis 10:15
Hey Guys! im new to filmic pro with iphone 7 plus. which gimbal do you prefer? zhiyun smooth 4 or the dji osmo mobile 2
We haven’t used the Osmo 2 yet, so can’t comment on it. We will be soon though. Most reports say it’s a solid gimbal. Smooth 4 works well so far with our 8 Plus.
Sir. what program do you use to edit your videos? thanks...
Adobe Premiere Pro mainly. Sometimes FCPX and sometimes LumaFusion, too.