Pain Elemental reveals the last official secret of Doom 2

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  • @MesugakiCorrectionalFacility
    @MesugakiCorrectionalFacility 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2504

    The most annoying enemy in Doom 2, whose job is to spit out the most annoying enemy in Doom 1, reveals the most annoyingly kept secret in this game. Add another layer of annoying, and you could spawn a second John Romero.

    • @Mate_Antal_Zoltan
      @Mate_Antal_Zoltan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

      it's annoying that this was only found out 20+ years later
      I would like to get my John Romero in the mail, please

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      @@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Annoyingly, you're not going to get one.

    • @davidsplooge14
      @davidsplooge14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@mjc0961 sad

    • @thenoobpro1176
      @thenoobpro1176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@mjc0961 that is annoying

    • @Jacktrack7
      @Jacktrack7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I agree, fuck Lost Souls, those enemies are supposed to be weak annoying fodder (Basically Medusa Heads but for Doom) then why the fuck are they bullet sponges? it's been 25 years since the release of Ultimate Doom and I still can't get over that design choice xd

  • @Treblaine
    @Treblaine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4128

    "this secret shouldn't take them that long to figure out"
    [Almost a quarter of a century later]

    • @Eren-ws9yw
      @Eren-ws9yw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Ahahaha def 80's people mindset 😂

    • @ireneparkin3360
      @ireneparkin3360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      I read the [almost a quarter of a century later] in a French accent.

    • @ireneparkin3360
      @ireneparkin3360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Rodrigo yes.

    • @andrewhaxley9467
      @andrewhaxley9467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Doom ftw:)

    • @brianblanda13
      @brianblanda13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am your 1000th like. I basically made you what you are. You are welcome.

  • @nobodygood7493
    @nobodygood7493 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2980

    “100 % Speed runners hate him for finding out this one little secret....”

    • @someone-ji2zb
      @someone-ji2zb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Yea, I am wondering if this will be incorporated into the 100% category, or will it be moved to a new 100%, with the old runs being labeled differently. Worse things have happened in other games, so we'll see.

    • @Frank_144
      @Frank_144 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Daniel Smith fuck you HAHAHAHA, You made my day.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@someone-ji2zb Nah, 100% is 100%. The previous records are forfeit. They were never valid when you think about it.

    • @toafloast1883
      @toafloast1883 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@Krystalmyth they were valid because it was believed the final secret was a glitch.

    • @mittarimato8994
      @mittarimato8994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      As far as I know, the map will not require 100% secrets for the traditional UV-max category because it is a glitch and it makes the map quite unfun in a way. The original rules in compet~n rules stated that only certain % of the secrets is necessary in this map, but of course rules can change. It would be quite unfair to disqualify 25 years worth of speedrunning because players werent aware of how to trigger one bugged 'secret revealed' trigger, even though the secret itself was known. Anyways, only time will tell in which direction it evolves.

  • @SoundboundOfficial
    @SoundboundOfficial 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3981

    To me the biggest surprise is that not a single id employee spoiled this for 24 years.

    • @ST1TCH916
      @ST1TCH916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +259

      You'd think Ramero would've hinted at it or something

    • @radiocaster2k
      @radiocaster2k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +504

      It was probably just a developer oversight that either nobody cared to fix or nobody noticed was wrong

    • @jonahweiss2124
      @jonahweiss2124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +295

      @@radiocaster2k no romero came out and stated what we thought was a glitch was the correct method

    • @MaxRideWizardLord
      @MaxRideWizardLord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +238

      +Jonah Weiss maybe it was just his method to not look like a dumbass that oversight something?

    • @cs512tr
      @cs512tr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      100% loyalty

  • @Mr-Mania
    @Mr-Mania 4 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    0:20 the shotgun is the best long-range sniper rifle of any game ever

    • @ZoofyZoof
      @ZoofyZoof 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Fun Fact: That's how they work in real life. Classic Doom is one of the few games in history to actually have a realistic shotgun.
      In video games, they are extremely commonly portrayed as close ranged weapons with high spread.
      Except... This just isn't the case.
      There is a part of a shotgun called a "Choke" that tightens the spread and allows for high accuracy.
      Shotguns were designed for long range.

    • @yourewallsareveryconvenien8292
      @yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@ZoofyZoof There is a modern game released 4 years ago called Rising Storm 2 Vietnam who also have a realistic shotguns

    • @PriyanshuSinhasc
      @PriyanshuSinhasc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 who cares lol..don't utter about a single non doom game here lmao

    • @yourewallsareveryconvenien8292
      @yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@PriyanshuSinhasc Oh yeah, i will utter about every games i want to tell so let me list some.
      Escape From Tarkov
      Insurgency Sandstorm
      Squad
      Post scriptum
      Hell let loose

    • @xilpes6254
      @xilpes6254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@PriyanshuSinhasc to not mention other games here would be to contribute nothing to the thread

  • @lQuadXl
    @lQuadXl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1924

    *Pain Elemental screws up 24 year old Doom secret with an accidental nudge*

    • @AngryJesus1
      @AngryJesus1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Demons hate him!

    • @ITRIEDEL
      @ITRIEDEL 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Quad X way to go Pain Elemental.
      You had two jobs - spawn lost souls and keep the secret a secret.

    • @mesafilmsproductions445
      @mesafilmsproductions445 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And no Pain Elemental has been maltreated during the making of this video...

    • @jat6758
      @jat6758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DoomHasCame The other one killed Daisy, sent there for bringing the doomguy upon them.

    • @jat6758
      @jat6758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DoomHasCame Cos they were all on earth waiting for you in Doom II :P

  • @steve018574
    @steve018574 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1961

    1:55 - preparation for trick
    3:05 - secret button pressed

    • @joshpl5451
      @joshpl5451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Thank you MVP

    • @HARwinsOUTagain
      @HARwinsOUTagain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      Thank you!! As a person who doesn't follow these types of speedruns normally, this looked like normal gameplay to me.

    • @gurdan-friedman
      @gurdan-friedman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!

    • @georgii2012
      @georgii2012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Спасибо!

    • @IAmFrom2008
      @IAmFrom2008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @Zdenda1990
    @Zdenda1990 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4706

    John Romero just shared this video on Instagram and Twitter.

    • @waisinet
      @waisinet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      And facebook 🙂

    • @eusouramiro
      @eusouramiro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +212

      is it wrong if i get a boner by reading this?

    • @Trevelyan2
      @Trevelyan2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Ramiro Figueiredo
      I unzipped

    • @borob.5168
      @borob.5168 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Ramiro Figueiredo, it's wrong if you don't.

    • @viktor1841
      @viktor1841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Who's that?

  • @koenmetekohy1296
    @koenmetekohy1296 5 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    Imagine completing a game 24 years after it’s release. That would be really satisfying

    • @whereskentuckybruce8245
      @whereskentuckybruce8245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      “To win the game you must kill me, John Romero”
      Any volunteers?

    • @TheUKNutter
      @TheUKNutter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So basically Duke Nukem

    • @xmarkclx
      @xmarkclx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whereskentuckybruce8245 I'm surprised that guy is still around given the playerbase includes school shooters like Dylan and Klebold.

    • @zigzagkillah7666
      @zigzagkillah7666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OR a bad design, honestly ... thru out the entire game there is nothing that leads to this , and nothing notes it ....
      I don't understand the praise ( to the devs , it was literally hidden with ZERO clues. Hence NO ONE was suppose to find it, and they made it to piss people off...) ( to the speed runners and completionist, hats off, praise understood and warranted.... this must have been like finding a grain of white sand on a world beach of tan sand ...)
      If something is hidden, and has *ZERO* reference to it, other than "ya missed that last secret" ... and really it wasn't a secret, until cheats were used to *really* discover it ...
      "Imagine completing a *broken* game 24 years after it's release. That would be really satisfying" .....

  • @kidyomu89
    @kidyomu89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +736

    Pain Elemental: Oh my god it's been like a quarter century dude, like seriously you haven't seen it? **Nudges DoomGuy** Here! It's right here ffs!

    • @reaty05
      @reaty05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      nicest pain elemental ever

    • @ThoseWhoKnowBalkan
      @ThoseWhoKnowBalkan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sands

    • @MisterJohnDoe
      @MisterJohnDoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I always love the idea of enemies being sick of the players’ shit.

    • @kidyomu89
      @kidyomu89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MisterJohnDoe me too

    • @danielhero2132
      @danielhero2132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dios mío, ha sido como un cuarto de siglo, amigo, ¿en serio no lo has visto? jajajajajajaja

  • @cacohat
    @cacohat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1072

    This lad didn't just leave his mark as a speedrunner, he left his mark as a fucking legend for that secret

    • @germanikolaas
      @germanikolaas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      *Secret Explained* A secret teleporter is marked as a discoverable "secret", but when you touch it, you never enter the sector. So you would never get inside the teleporter sector to trigger the secret. The only way to trigger this secret is to be pushed by an enemy into it!

    • @davidchez513
      @davidchez513 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Only for that? He was the first person to complete TNT on Nightmare in one run, and also to do a sub 20 run on UV in Doom 2. AND also for discovering and alternative and faster way to complete this map in an any% run, and many others merits.

    • @almostmatt1tas
      @almostmatt1tas 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also done a sub 20 Plutonia run.

    • @mikkobarros8436
      @mikkobarros8436 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ibf 4000m cooper results in army/college... :P

    • @JasonSims1984
      @JasonSims1984 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was the 666th like for this comment!

  • @Kenazzle
    @Kenazzle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    1:01
    Dude gets hit by the fireball then turns around like "what the hell, bro?"

    • @febbledebble
      @febbledebble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm literally one year late but I love that so much.

    • @kaiky_3821
      @kaiky_3821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@febbledebble Guy 1:*fireball*
      Guy 2: Ah fuck,i can't believe you done this

    • @pexrox2248
      @pexrox2248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *what are you doing step-bro?*

    • @quillon8984
      @quillon8984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@pexrox2248 OH GOD OH PLEASE NO

    • @intheshadowofathousandbean563
      @intheshadowofathousandbean563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's so ridiculous. I had the same situation in a game called Nuclear Throne. Kind of a bullet hell, roquelike. While I was fighting with a horde of enemies, somewhere in the corner there were two mobs that happen to have a friendly fire, just standing there, doing nothing, until one of them shoot another and he turned and was like "why? :(" I had to pause the game from laughing so hard, it was so unexpected.

  • @ama1212
    @ama1212 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1621

    Amazing that after all these years there is still things to be found!

    • @ZeroMaster
      @ZeroMaster  6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      then you might also like this: th-cam.com/video/aXtV82Nv0ms/w-d-xo.html

    • @bro89174
      @bro89174 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      U mean to find

    • @ama1212
      @ama1212 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@bro89174 yeah sorry, english is not my main language ^^

    • @sLincKz
      @sLincKz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@bro89174 Ew a grammar nazi

    • @smeadswanson
      @smeadswanson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      there are still settlements to found

  • @johnnyhernandez1804
    @johnnyhernandez1804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    For those that do not know what is happening here, the Pain Elemental is triggering that secret by the teleporter. Normally, the secret is too thin to trigger because you would normally teleport before the secret would trigger so 100% secrets were considered impossible. This also happened on another map (I can’t remember what specific map) but the Pain Elemental can spawn a Lost Soul inside the player and allow you to clip through the floor for a bit and trigger the broken secret.

    • @joseignaciogazzi3278
      @joseignaciogazzi3278 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think its Map 27

    • @ihswap
      @ihswap ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this intentional or is it a glitched secret?

    • @RipRLeeErmey
      @RipRLeeErmey ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@ihswap Pretty sure it's glitched, and the only reason why is due to the limitations of the idtech engine
      As you may well be already aware, Doom is more like 2.5D rather than proper 3D; it's code is read as though it was operating in a 2D space, therefore things like secrets getting stuck in walls does happen occasionally.

    • @Flickeralex
      @Flickeralex ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ihswap Glitched

    • @byrongardner9299
      @byrongardner9299 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What exactly is the secret, though. I got lost

  • @fallingbed1
    @fallingbed1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1022

    Imagine all the Easter eggs that have never been found

    • @porkyminch5131
      @porkyminch5131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What?

    • @christinamorrigan8573
      @christinamorrigan8573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Bruh, it was made in the 90s. What Easter Eggs?

    • @felipeaglo8699
      @felipeaglo8699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@christinamorrigan8573 the OST is one of them hahaha

    • @relic374
      @relic374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@felipeaglo8699 Wdym? I love the song so I want to know what the Easter Egg is. Also @Christina Morrigan there have been Easter Eggs in video games since the Atari 2600 in the late 1970s.

    • @chriswelcome8102
      @chriswelcome8102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@relic374 Leave her alone. How could she possibly know devs put easter eggs in games before the 90s? It's not like she has some... Vast database of knowledge directly in front of her right beneath her finger tips or something
      .....Wait

  • @ricodc6529
    @ricodc6529 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2608

    Who would crack the last secret of doom?
    1. A community of thousands of players that has been working on it for two decades or...
    2. One pushed boi

    • @GegoXaren
      @GegoXaren 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Or just open the map in an editor and look for the trigger, then figure out how to trigger it.

    • @DizzySpark
      @DizzySpark 6 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      ..we did.
      we tried.
      I mean jeze its not like we think getting crouched by a P.E. was the actual trick to getting to the trigger line.

    • @vasyl4g34
      @vasyl4g34 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      This one boi.... is significant parth of community...

    • @DanielNordhorn
      @DanielNordhorn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There was no secret, just a bug. I was not missing anything when using the teleports in maps 15 and 27 without the secret being triggered.

    • @DanielNordhorn
      @DanielNordhorn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Do you believe him?

  • @sugarshow4941
    @sugarshow4941 6 ปีที่แล้ว +686

    24 Years later the final secret has been revealed, John Romero can finally rest in pieces

    • @theyearwas1473
      @theyearwas1473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I think you're thinking of George Romero... John's still alive.

    • @Josh-dm8uw
      @Josh-dm8uw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the babutheocelot85 your a dumbass

    • @cmcphotography1
      @cmcphotography1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Josh-dm8uw You're*

    • @ahriman935
      @ahriman935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "24 Years later the final secret has been triggered"
      There, I fixed it for you.
      The secret had been known for long years, together with the exact cause why it doesn't trigger (faulty map design, causes the secret triggering sector to be normally inaccessible).
      It only wasn't known how to trigger it legit.

    • @banana9494
      @banana9494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theyearwas1473 you're*

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2966

    I've been trying to figure this out for 20+ years...

    • @Unknown-dq2cj
      @Unknown-dq2cj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ProtoMario Fck!

    • @cripknuckles9112
      @cripknuckles9112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      GG

    • @dirge341
      @dirge341 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      As have I. All these years later i STILL drive myself batty playing doom and doom 2. Oh and...ALL HAIL PROTOMARIO!!*bows*

    • @michellp1909
      @michellp1909 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At this point you're just like Justin Y.

    • @KaguyaH
      @KaguyaH 6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Why do you feel the need to promote your channel on every popular gaming video? Every popular video that hits the news sites you post some beyond-super generic comment like this.

  • @pacoramon9468
    @pacoramon9468 6 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    The end of an era.
    The beggining of a new one.

    • @reverse1371
      @reverse1371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Fucksticks And hopefully where we don't reply to a 9 month old comment. Genius

    • @KnjazNazrath
      @KnjazNazrath 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reverse1371 Better late than never.

    • @reverse1371
      @reverse1371 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KnjazNazrath Better early than never.

    • @legreatpotato8888
      @legreatpotato8888 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reverse1371 better early than late but better late than never

    • @JimmehRulez
      @JimmehRulez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

  • @hydra4370
    @hydra4370 6 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    hot to trigger speedrunners who want the title of "100%" and have to work again for it

    • @jamestuff5240
      @jamestuff5240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Including him

    • @panthekirb7561
      @panthekirb7561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah that shit is retarded.

    • @kominatoriku5483
      @kominatoriku5483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@panthekirb7561 but still correct it doesnt matter if they worked hard if this shit isn't included they speedrun isn't 100%run making it not valid

    • @ክፉየዩቲዩብእጀታ
      @ክፉየዩቲዩብእጀታ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@panthekirb7561 mad

    • @legathar8558
      @legathar8558 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@panthekirb7561 rude

  • @EarlobeJuice
    @EarlobeJuice 6 ปีที่แล้ว +694

    Wow I'm watching a video of a guy discovering the last secret of a game that took two decades to discover. What a time to be alive.

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      THE SUN IS BURNING WHITE PEOPLE OFF THE PLANET LOL
      And I thought my name was extremely goofy

    • @jankjason
      @jankjason 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt it took two decades, not everyone would realize that it's hard to find nor think to announce finding it.

    • @spoiledmilk2587
      @spoiledmilk2587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The sun isn't killing us, cultural Marxism is.

    • @xyphoes345
      @xyphoes345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@enocherone .....

    • @rusemode
      @rusemode 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats a rad Vibes playlist

  • @dazzer7986
    @dazzer7986 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1053

    Best Secret in Gaming History. Found 23 Years after Release.

    • @nomad_mk7301
      @nomad_mk7301 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Along with the hidden EJB Menu in the klassic mortal kombat games, this is for sure up there.

    • @ikagura
      @ikagura 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Like the coin in Tiny Huge land in SM64

    • @Architector_4
      @Architector_4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      To be completely honest, it's rather "figured out" than "found".
      I'm pretty sure the existence of this secret and the required conditions were known for years now - it's just that someone figured out how to meet those conditions now.

    • @Marcin_z_bloku_obok
      @Marcin_z_bloku_obok 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How do you know that nobody ever discovery it before?

    • @fulldisclosureiamamonster2786
      @fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @Mister Scoops it's not the chamber itself that was undiscovered. It was how to make it factor into the number of secrets found.

  • @guynamederick
    @guynamederick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    Didn't thought a little push by a Pain Elemental would be enough to get on the lower floor and score this secret. It's still amazing how new things like this are found, Doom 2 is now 100% completed!

  • @polynektar
    @polynektar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I love how your description literally explains every question I had. All youTube videos should be so thorough. Congrats!

    • @ZeroMaster
      @ZeroMaster  6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I'm just happy someone actually reads it, thanks!

  • @kazuhiramiller7945
    @kazuhiramiller7945 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1168

    The speedrunning community trying to defend the old runs in the comments section has actually caused me to have a stroke

    • @youtubesuresuckscock
      @youtubesuresuckscock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Speed running is poison anyway. Screw them. Games are supposed to be fun.

    • @codythompson9973
      @codythompson9973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      Big Blue Frontend
      No one says you have to speed run. It is setting a challenge for yourself like trying not to die once in Dark Souls or something.

    • @panthekirb7561
      @panthekirb7561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      The old runs are COMPLETELY valid. No reason to shit down people's throats for not knowing this bullshit. Everyone thought it was a shitty glitch anyway.

    • @Primight
      @Primight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      @@panthekirb7561 They are completely valid, as ANY% speedruns anyway, as a 100% speedrun however.............

    • @panthekirb7561
      @panthekirb7561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Primight Bullshit.

  • @HorkSupreme
    @HorkSupreme 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1359

    Now all those runs are invalidated, good job!

    • @AltimaMantoid
      @AltimaMantoid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I don't believe that this will be the case.

    • @Supcharged
      @Supcharged 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh hi altima

    • @AltimaMantoid
      @AltimaMantoid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Eman Gamer I hate to tell you but nothing is going to change. It comes down to a case of practicality. Do you REALLY want to have an infinite number of runs ended because one monster literally refuses to cooperate? Not to mention the actual pixel-perfect precision reliant upon said monster? The video is already making rounds in the Doom speedrunning community and no one is changing any rules. No one is making this mandatory because of the sheer absurdity this is to pull off with any relative, realistic consistency. Period.

    • @AltimaMantoid
      @AltimaMantoid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Supercharged Heyo!

    • @kusanarakeoto325
      @kusanarakeoto325 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      it need to change

  • @egr1957
    @egr1957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3045

    So are you technically the first vanilla Doom 2 100% runner?

    • @ZeroMaster
      @ZeroMaster  6 ปีที่แล้ว +787

      Well I doubt anyone's done this before by accident, and the secret on map 27 isn't easy to get either :)

    • @Supcharged
      @Supcharged 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      how possible is it to get the third secret in e4m7 using the cyberdemon rocket?

    • @ruslansmirnov9006
      @ruslansmirnov9006 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Best skill playing vanilla Doom I've ever seen.
      What exactly happens on 2:54? PE triggers some wall opened?

    • @Sopze
      @Sopze 6 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      no MSDOS = no vanilla

    • @ruslansmirnov9006
      @ruslansmirnov9006 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I've noticed the framerate is very smooth. Which port is it he's playing?
      Technically he also ought to play it on 486DX. This is the only way to be 100% sure the engine behaves as it meant to be.
      INDUSTRIAL ZONE is the best.

  • @lupinedreamexpress
    @lupinedreamexpress 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Created: 1994
    Discovered: 2018
    Wow, nice find.

  • @noahg2
    @noahg2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    it's nice to see the game still has fans, i simply love this community

    • @bruceli9094
      @bruceli9094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There will always be DOOM.

    • @adrianestevez8843
      @adrianestevez8843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well... DOOM is eternal :)

    • @SoldierOfFate
      @SoldierOfFate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most of these fans are well past their 30s and some are even in their 40s. This game just doesn't and will never die.

  • @theninjustice138
    @theninjustice138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    This looks so cool. (If only I knew what was actually going on..)

    • @ronaldraygun8007
      @ronaldraygun8007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      it's a secret shhh

    • @jacobstaten2366
      @jacobstaten2366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I love Doom, but this made me nauseous.

    • @josuedelarosa8190
      @josuedelarosa8190 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      The secret is about to get the 100% complete in the level, aparently is impossible get the 100% without get that secret, where you need get pushed by an enemy.

    • @squasherdown
      @squasherdown 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      same lol

    • @L3ON360Z
      @L3ON360Z 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Read the description

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 6 ปีที่แล้ว +693

    You absolute madman! My helmet's off to you sir.

    • @Gustavo6046
      @Gustavo6046 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Don't take your helmet! This atmosphere is way too thin!

    • @Suburbannite
      @Suburbannite 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      rats off to you

    • @solaireofastora4227
      @solaireofastora4227 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never take your helmet off! That thing can save your life!!!

    • @fryode
      @fryode 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gordon Freeman still wishes he had a helmet... in his own Mind.

    • @BusyBadger
      @BusyBadger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice avatar, subscribed to you as soon as I saw it. 👍

  • @CarmaSombrio
    @CarmaSombrio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +264

    "So to all the commenters in my Nightmare all secrets video about only getting 90% secrets on map 15, you were right, my bad. And to all those completionists who could never get the 100%, well, looks like you didn't try hard enough.. you should have just dragged an uncooperative pain elemental from his hideout to help you out." Well said! LUL XD

    • @yatinkheti2427
      @yatinkheti2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gayahhbihh Well zeromaster still solved it. no one else did

  • @ImpseMX
    @ImpseMX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +389

    Life, uh, finds a way.

    • @JBzucc
      @JBzucc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So weird, just watch a video with Jeff in it

    • @boomerdoomer7534
      @boomerdoomer7534 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To make me vomit!

    • @thefishgolder
      @thefishgolder 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Missing like 2 more uh's there bud

    • @thebigmoosy9706
      @thebigmoosy9706 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your foster parents are dead

    • @neglesaks
      @neglesaks 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Death finds a way, Always.

  • @arkadycaca
    @arkadycaca 6 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    2:34 - 3:06 Doomguy making the perfect expressions for this sequence XD

    • @lynk172
      @lynk172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He's like "...where's that fam?"

    • @febbledebble
      @febbledebble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those are the only expressions he has. What's your point?

    • @arkadycaca
      @arkadycaca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@febbledebble If you don't get it, you don't get it.

    • @febbledebble
      @febbledebble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fned Tolfsen Oh I get it, it's just not funny.

    • @arkadycaca
      @arkadycaca 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@febbledebble So?

  • @bilazaurus2759
    @bilazaurus2759 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I just love how he shoves and pushes Pain Elemental and he looks so frustrated! No respect at all.

  • @PeterLawrenceYT
    @PeterLawrenceYT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1534

    Did you just make all 100% speedruns of Doom obsolete??

    • @AltimaMantoid
      @AltimaMantoid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      I don't believe he did. It's impressive and shows it's doable but this doesn't just magically make the secret in this map "not bugged". It just means there's a *p a i n f u l* (pardon my pun) workaround. The rule on this map is still in place that you only need 90% secrets to UV-Max the map.

    • @AltimaMantoid
      @AltimaMantoid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      The practicalities come into play. Do you *really* want to run a full game where one secret is totally reliant on a stupid enemy that can brick your whole run because it wants to? This is quadruple for Nightmare 100% Secret runs

    • @gia257
      @gia257 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      yes, all of them are 99.999% now, or any%

    • @guynamederick
      @guynamederick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Can't make past records obsolete for both the fact that it'll just be wiping history for no good reason and because trying to score the secret would cost too much time, which is counter-productive for a speedrun.

    • @gia257
      @gia257 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      it doesnt wipe history, just add a footnote "in it was found you can obtain a true 100% so any run that obtains it gets precedence over the old runs, only true 100% runs are to be considered legal from on" in fact it makes history more interesting because theres an special event attached to it. Fastest is fastest, the level will take longer, but the record will still be held by who he does it faster. Also note that the 90%+ categ is still 90%+, talking about 100% only.

  • @wifflebat14
    @wifflebat14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love how you're just pushing it along the corridor and it keeps trying to spit a lost soul but getting jammed up. You're like a nightclub bouncer with a drunk dude trying to punch you.

  • @practic4l349
    @practic4l349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +682

    zero master: casually playing doom
    people that aren't familiar with doom: is this a speedrun?

    • @ikagura
      @ikagura 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Huh?

    • @Architector_4
      @Architector_4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Well to be honest when you start getting really good at DooM it's quite possible that your casual play of the game could be misattributed as a speedrun by people who aren't familiar with the game, because, holy shit, does this game allow for some speed.

    • @practic4l349
      @practic4l349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      actually as the time passes by you get more and more... shall I say comfortable with the movement that even if you speedrun it feels like you're just playing normally

    • @bart0642
      @bart0642 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      >tfw too oldschool

    • @disnagburnazog9552
      @disnagburnazog9552 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      He's moving really fast, knows where to go and shoots like he's prescient, it sorta looks like a speedrun

  • @Maniac742
    @Maniac742 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    And with a single reveal, all 100% speed runs of Doom 2 come crashing down.

  • @Miniahobbies
    @Miniahobbies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    That is what I call map design... jesus I've been playing Doom now for over 15 years and I cannot believe one of the secrets involves being pushed in by an enemy... bloody hell hats off to you!

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      it was obviously not intended, it's a bug but this lad found a work around

    • @Miniahobbies
      @Miniahobbies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      No, it was a glitch that Romero then made a secret out of intentionally.

    • @slinkeepy
      @slinkeepy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Calling it a secret doesn't make it any less a glitch X)

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Exactly, having a bug and then naming it intentional ONCE people find a way to trigger it doesn't make it a secret, is a lazy excuse to not admit he made a mistake

    • @Miniahobbies
      @Miniahobbies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There are plenty instances of what started off as a glitch being turned into a functional and sometimes iconic feature of a game. I understand what you're saying but in this instance I believe that is the case since Romero knew about this years ago when the game came out. None the less, this still is a great game.

  • @reptongeek
    @reptongeek 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1412

    So what you have to do is stand under the door and then wait until the Pain Elemental pushes you into the secret is that correct

    • @grimtygranule5125
      @grimtygranule5125 6 ปีที่แล้ว +388

      The Pain Elemental spawns a lost soul on top of you pushing you down slightly, triggering the secret.

    • @moegreen3870
      @moegreen3870 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      haha wow! its been so many years since i played Doom2
      is a pain elemental the only monster that can push you backwards like that?
      or could it have been done with another monster?
      i can't remember if you get pushed back by shotgun blasts of the 2nd degree human soldiers or not
      grats to Zero Master :)

    • @YaGirlJuniper
      @YaGirlJuniper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +256

      This secret is actually *underneath* the teleporter pad, and you can't reach it normally, but when a lost soul gets spawned on top of you, you get pushed downward, triggering the secret.

    • @moegreen3870
      @moegreen3870 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      +Vid-szhite - ahhh, so its pushed down, not pushed backward
      thx u sir!
      i think that also answers my second budding question which was "could this possibly have been made near inaccessible by a designer accident?"
      to me it is sounding like Romero knew that lost souls push you down, because he made them that way, or because Carmack told him that's what they do when they spawn on a player's head
      and thus him putting a pain elemental way down there in that hallway was no accident... and he wondered if a player would ever figure it out before Mars was colonized
      woops... i think i left out a step...
      after placing the pain elemental, and the secret underneath the teleporter pad, Romero said "muahaha! muahahahaah! muahahahahahahahaha!" and then had a sip of his red wine :)

    • @fullgooseloot
      @fullgooseloot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      Err this sounds more like a bug

  • @T1mm0s
    @T1mm0s 6 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I watched very carefully and what I think what's happening in the engine and map is the following:
    - At 2:47, you see him opening the gate in the wall leading to the teleporter.
    - Then, starting from 2:49, he enters the area but is very anxious about stepping too far because that would teleport him away. But you can see him stepping backwards onto the platform, which the teleporter surface is aligned with. He does so while strafing against the wall at a ~45 degree angle in order to go as slow as possible in the direction to the teleporter, in order to get to the sweet spot. So the teleporter trigger is not triggered when stepping on the platform but only somewhat further on this platform. Now the sweet spot, being right above the secret trigger, is just 16 units wide if I may believe what I read on the internet. This means that locating Doomguy's centre at the sweet spot itself is quite difficult: too far and you'll be teleported away; too close to the door and the secret won't be registered. You must locate Doomguy right at the edge of the teleporter platform.
    - Then at 3:06, a lost soul is spawned at the player location which forces him through the platform under which the secret trigger is located, but this location is thus (slightly?) closer in the horizontal axis than the location of the teleporter trigger. I read somewhere that infact the secret trigger is infact adjacent to the raised platform. The player was already in the horizontal-axis sweet spot as explained above, but now the player also makes contact with the secret trigger by being in the vertical-axis sweet spot, thus the secret is tagged / revealed. If you watch carefully and follow a vertical line from the bricked textured wall in front of him, you can see that he is NOT forced backwards. So he stays in the same horizontal position, and only gets pushed downwards.
    Please correct me if this is wrong. I want to know how it works.
    I believe that John Romero designed it this way. That man is a living legend. Congratulations Zero Master!
    EDIT: in the meantime I tried this myself. I was wondering why the Pain Elemental was not attacking you in the narrow passage where he is initially hidden. Seems that no Lost Souls are spawned when there is no place for them, and can't spawn in the lowest section of this passage either. According to DOOM wiki a Pain Elemental only spawns Lost Souls when the player is in its line of sight, which makes it logical that Zero Master is hiding behind all corners in this section. This way no Lost Souls are spawned, but I also noticed during my test that the Lost Souls may attack their parent which is also unwanted behavior as the Pain Elemental is the only chance of getting to the secret. Then as a last remark, it is crucial that the Pain Elemental comes from the right because for as long as you're behind the corner of the secret area, the Pain Elemental won't spawn any Lost Souls because you are not in its line of sight.
    So it's lot to keep in mind: kill all other enemies first so they don't attack the Pain Elemental, make sure it doesn't spawn Lost Souls, stay out of its line of sight, and lure him in such a way that he comes from the top of the stairs towards the secret area.
    I don't know how much luck is actually involved. I believe that monsters will always come after you, so only the part from 2:25 to 3:05 is unknown how much randomness in path decision making is involved here. The stuff before 2:25 seems pretty fixed.

    • @zanogre
      @zanogre 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Noice comment

    • @borissurkan3035
      @borissurkan3035 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ye

    • @dantedeloden
      @dantedeloden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I read it all. Kill me lol

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dantedeloden You finally read what amounts to a page of text. I'm proud of you.

    • @debravalreyes2033
      @debravalreyes2033 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go to sleep school is tomorrow for you

  • @abrickfullafist
    @abrickfullafist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Knows each enemy and where
    Knows each secret and when.
    Knows the weapons and why.
    Dude just knows.. I'm astounded.
    Practice leads to perfection. Rock on Zero Master.

  • @benz8426
    @benz8426 6 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    I saw this on the news lmao

  • @allenbacho3456
    @allenbacho3456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Everyone: Talking about the secret
    Me: Dang those frames are good for a 20 year old game

    • @evdestroy5304
      @evdestroy5304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This isnt how it originally ran. The original runs at 35 fps

    • @dooplon5083
      @dooplon5083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@evdestroy5304 hardcoded into the game logic too, iirc

  • @AllknowingUnknown
    @AllknowingUnknown 6 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Demon sees a green blur flash by - "WTF WAS THAT"

    • @Zeoinx69
      @Zeoinx69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      GREEN BLUR SPEEDS BY! DOOMGUY THE HUMAN! TOO FAST FOR THE NAKED EYE! DOOMGUY THE HUMAN!

    • @Neverhoodian
      @Neverhoodian 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then it realizes that its torso is suddenly missing and dies.

    • @Galdenberry_Lamphuck
      @Galdenberry_Lamphuck 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      the only being faster than keemstar is the doom guy

    • @neglesaks
      @neglesaks 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ""WTF WAS THAT""
      >hey, is that a doom tro... *

  • @webbrowser6454
    @webbrowser6454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome find, after so many years. With props from the man himself and the first true 100%, you deserve all the praise and envy you recieve. Godspeed, sir.

  • @Ninjetika
    @Ninjetika 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Amazing find! Doom will always have a special place in my heart!! This game made me want to become a game developer and programmer!

  • @oren2234
    @oren2234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    masterpiece, not only the gameplay itself was ahead of its time, but the actual "3d" engine was remarkable and cleverly built

  • @saxwastaken
    @saxwastaken 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    lmao @ the people defending old 100% speedruns because the secret "is not convenient"
    So essentially you're all just saying that 99% should be considered 100% because you dont want to add a minute to a run.

    • @davidchez513
      @davidchez513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because it is still a bug, nonetheless there are now two categories for this map (and even whole game)
      Classic 100% without this and the very precised secret on Map 27, and true 100% that obviously takes more time because of both secrets.

    • @rasta7655
      @rasta7655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      JD 5 13 it was the way it was intended by the developers

    • @davidchez513
      @davidchez513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, sure, whatever you say dude, even if Romero nor any of the developer haven't really say this is how it was intended.
      And I don't want to have this kind of conversation again, all I have to say is that social media loves to exagerate everything and you are one of the many people who believe whatever a web page says.

    • @-Zakhiel-
      @-Zakhiel- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rasta7655 No it wasn't

    • @shouzhengtang2692
      @shouzhengtang2692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@davidchez513 shouldnt matter if it was intended or not, if it is possible it should count for the 100% or are you saying that the speedrunners cant use wallrunning and out of bounds clipping because it wasnt intended by the developers?

  • @wasabidog14
    @wasabidog14 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Fantastic work! I always thought someday somebody would figure out how to get that last secret!

    • @zanogre
      @zanogre 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      U say that as if you new it was thetr

    • @Furionic696
      @Furionic696 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The score screen at the end of the level informs you of the percentage of secrets collected on a level, without this one it shows 90 percent so yeah he and the whole community knew it was in the level just not where or how to trigger it

    • @wasabidog14
      @wasabidog14 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We did know it was there, it's easily accessed, it's just that the secret counter at the end of the level wouldn't count it if you accessed it normally.

    • @DanielNordhorn
      @DanielNordhorn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everybody who found the teleport found the secret. It is the mistake of the programmers that it just was not counted.

  • @Wilburgur
    @Wilburgur 6 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    kewl

    • @Spore1018
      @Spore1018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Skooma

    • @ClayrVoyanT
      @ClayrVoyanT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Almost as good as discovering Kitty space mission for the first time

    • @JRockBlessing
      @JRockBlessing 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      iiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • @racccongenocide
      @racccongenocide 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      woah hi

    • @palermo777
      @palermo777 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      HELLO

  • @johnlewisbrooks
    @johnlewisbrooks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I have found a new game breaking glitch in e1m8.
    1, set game to nightmare mode. Not needed but makes it better.
    2, kill as FEW pinkies as possible and allow them to filter into the hallway and quickly kill the two barons!
    3, right when the star shape comrs down QUICKLY run outside to either the left or right of the pinkies.
    4, theres a good chance at least 1 pinkie will be lowered outside.
    5, activate the stairs and trick the pinkie onto the final teleporter!
    You have now soft broke DooM.
    I actually found this out by playing doom on nightmare mode and saw a respawned pinkie fall outside and suddenly thought 'gee, wonder what would happen to him if HE goes in there?'
    All it does is deactivate the teleporter and thus sealing you on the moon...
    Forever!!!!!!
    Can anyone make a vid of this?

    • @8-mir
      @8-mir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow that's kinda cool

  • @darrentate1388
    @darrentate1388 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wtf! I remember my friends and I struggling so many hours and never getting this. I had no idea all these years later that it STILL hadn't been done until now. Congrats, man!

  • @PepperDoom
    @PepperDoom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats ZeroMaster! I enjoy your runs a lot and your channel inspires me to make my own runs

  • @rodiculous9464
    @rodiculous9464 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    amazing that people are still finding out new things about this game even today!

  • @HispanoFeik
    @HispanoFeik 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    3:00 secret revealed after 24 years

    • @obamacat3
      @obamacat3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is?

  • @sirleviatandoom
    @sirleviatandoom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Secret explained: A secret teleporter is marked as a discoverable "secret", but when you touch it, you never enter the sector. So you would never get inside the teleporter sector to trigger the secret. The only way to trigger this secret is to be pushed by an enemy into it!" by: John Romero.

  • @fer1980
    @fer1980 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    24 years and I still get motion sickens. GJ Sir. Kudos!

  • @techno-kitchen
    @techno-kitchen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    круто!

    • @СтаниславК-о7ш
      @СтаниславК-о7ш 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      очень круто ) , сколько часов я бродил по DM15, но этой фишки не знал ...

    • @MarkTheCat
      @MarkTheCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      не ожидал увидеть вас, ребят, здесь :)

    • @MarkTheCat
      @MarkTheCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @The Final Chapter look out everyone, we’ve got a big funny guy over here!

    • @tinais4362
      @tinais4362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vodka

    • @ElephasXFalconeri
      @ElephasXFalconeri 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tinais4362 Reb

  • @tenacious645
    @tenacious645 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow. I never thought I'd see it...not the secret, but zero master posting again! Lol seriously though that secret find/exploit is brilliant and satiates my OCD.

  • @IIFirenII
    @IIFirenII 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Woaw good job to find that ! You are the true player of doom II !

  • @kobayashi4672
    @kobayashi4672 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is history in the making !

  • @faisalahmed1982
    @faisalahmed1982 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't even fucking imagine how the Zero Master felt once he discovered this!!! Ur the DOOM GUY DUDE! UR THE LEGEND....U BREATHE AND LIVE UR LIFE IN MARS!

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have been playing this game for 25 years, and just noticed that pain elemental has cyberdemon's horns.

  • @curorisluodi
    @curorisluodi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    “Art for art's sake is an empty phrase. Art for the sake of truth, art for the sake of the good and the beautiful, that is the faith I am searching for.”
    - George Sand

    • @Professor_Utonium_
      @Professor_Utonium_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DanielRyanScott
      You sound like a lot of fun

    • @raskolnikovthe4th923
      @raskolnikovthe4th923 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DanielRyanScott What an ignorant statement, art( especially literature ) has been used to influence intellectual movements varying from Narodnaya Volya to the Nazis , to persuade the masses, to provoke thought etc etc

    • @simonedaishi5290
      @simonedaishi5290 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanielRyanScott videogames are art, if it wasn't for art you wouldn't be nutting on guns in fps games :)

  • @Zdenda1990
    @Zdenda1990 6 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    Wait, there's also a similar secret in Map27. Can you do the same trick there as well?

    • @ZeroMaster
      @ZeroMaster  6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      I already grab that one in nightmare all secrets, it's a linedef skip so it's different: th-cam.com/video/yIxEEgEuhT4/w-d-xo.htmlm10s

    • @12319603
      @12319603 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could you please explain how a linedef skip works and what it is? It's a special type of running i guess?And why it doesn't work on idustrial zone teleport,because of the stairs or teleport setup?

  • @viniciusvieiracostadatti9700
    @viniciusvieiracostadatti9700 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    24 years, and still had undiscovered secrets....amazing

  • @bruceli9094
    @bruceli9094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This secret is older than me.

  • @Axel-Dreemurr
    @Axel-Dreemurr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So...usually I just play to dead simple and get bored but you just made me want to play to the end. Thanks!

  • @TheAdatto
    @TheAdatto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    3:00 where you are here for.

  • @ashleighchance9420
    @ashleighchance9420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Pain Elemental was like "my job is finally done, I must go now."

  • @stalkerbugdankguy8358
    @stalkerbugdankguy8358 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you dude
    Finally we can say Doom 2 is finished to 100%

    • @KonpakuYoumu2003
      @KonpakuYoumu2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think theres lore secrets out there

  • @cristianmosqueira9984
    @cristianmosqueira9984 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YOU ARE A LEGEND

  • @ChryslerLeBaro
    @ChryslerLeBaro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HOLY SHIT! That's one hell of an impressive run! Very well done. Flawless execution.
    -Chris

  • @CantTreadOnMe
    @CantTreadOnMe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man these early Doom games were so ahead of there time. Truly Legendary! Also original Wolfenstein was exceptional as well. I would play those games non stop on my family room computer trying to hide it from my parents. Turned out that my dad loved it too and had no problem with me playing it. Haha THE MEMORIES!!

    • @Atlas-yh6vg
      @Atlas-yh6vg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you've had a good dad there.

  • @sa-x19
    @sa-x19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Congrats mate, you're in the record books now.

  • @lucaskellermann4740
    @lucaskellermann4740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always, impressive, dude!
    I take at least 20 minutes to full complete this map in Ultra Violence

  • @Peccath
    @Peccath 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, reading the video description cleared my confusion :D Nice job!

  • @NintenFan0900
    @NintenFan0900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I only recently impulse bought doom 2 because its cheap.
    Which secret outnof all of these was the super secret one

    • @bubsmcgee6048
      @bubsmcgee6048 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The one where he has the pain elemental nudge him somewhere to get to a secret 3:05

    • @Tucher97
      @Tucher97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you should have bought Doom 3 BFG edition where it includes doom 1, 2 and 3 as 3 the flash lights are shoulder lamps where its atleast tolerable

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tucher97 The WADs in BFG edition are censored and the port isn't too good (earrape chainsaw sound, ear-grating pitch randomizer, and the censorship: medikits and Wolfenstein levels)

    • @Tucher97
      @Tucher97 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xyzzy-dv6te the censorship i do not mind, the chainsaw sound, yea i was greatful for Heretic's necrogauntlets

  • @victoryoung4315
    @victoryoung4315 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite game of all time!!! Iv played this through literally dozens of times and there are still secrest to be found 😱😱😱😱
    Truly a game before its time😎

    • @metalvideos1961
      @metalvideos1961 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      this was the last secret in the game that wasnt been found yet

  • @ImDatOoz
    @ImDatOoz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the mapper who did this map is plain genius, I couldn't believe how improved the levels where but the city's one where amazing

    • @fulldisclosureiamamonster2786
      @fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This particular map was by John Romero btw

    • @elkinnortlee3497
      @elkinnortlee3497 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The map was made by John Romero, the madlad behind the iconic E1M1 and the entire episode 1

  • @JoeyJoJoJoestarJuniorShabadoo
    @JoeyJoJoJoestarJuniorShabadoo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The second this was discovered John Romero's hair grew an inch.

  • @shardcoff
    @shardcoff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, you're a badass at this game bro!

  • @jalcom69
    @jalcom69 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, taking my hat off to you, sir! Impressive commitment!

  • @breadleywheatler9242
    @breadleywheatler9242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Dk 64 coin and now this?! Wonder what else is out there...

  • @davemarx7856
    @davemarx7856 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Summoning Salt : "Time to get back to work 🍵"

  • @Zhark159632
    @Zhark159632 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Uh I’m not too familiar with doom 2 so I don’t really know what the secret was but hey people seem to think it’s awesome so good job man

    • @davidchez513
      @davidchez513 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      At 3:00 a Pain Elemental spawns a Lost Soul on top of the player to trigger the secret. The secret was already known and people thought that the only way to get it was by using noclip (a cheat). This video, however proof that is not neccesary to use noclip to reach the secret, so this basically means that after 24 years, it is possible to get all the secrets in Doom 2.

    • @Zhark159632
      @Zhark159632 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      JD 5 13 nice

    • @skipmanghondarg
      @skipmanghondarg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidchez513 Who is Pain Elemental?

    • @PinkBroBlueRope
      @PinkBroBlueRope 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      literally what was the point of leaving a comment if you were just gonna be like, I have no idea what's going on but nice

    • @davidchez513
      @davidchez513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skipmanghondarg Basically the enemy that you see at 3:00

  • @TheSibler
    @TheSibler 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    absolute legend

  • @furiomorius7962
    @furiomorius7962 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all I like to say thank you for posting this video. You have done well for the DOOM classic community. You have know idea how much this means to me. I used to play DOOM II religiously back in high school (2013 -2017). I swear I know about the secret exit [8:20] and have open it once, but I never know the explanation so I just noclip my way there [8:20} due to my frustration. I never looked at any forums or walkthrough so I am not aware this was a mystery .

  • @1thevm1
    @1thevm1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Based and doompilled.

  • @TheBurleybrawler
    @TheBurleybrawler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finished this game many times decades ago but it looks way harder than I remember it, I think I must've camped and retreated alot but still it shows how new games cater to a larger audience by lowering the skill required.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you think this is hard try it with the complex+LCA mods.

  • @createprince2093
    @createprince2093 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    secret happens shortly after the 3:00 mark

  • @vitorfray
    @vitorfray 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad spent days, even weeks, looking for this secret back in the 90s. He had this goal of getting 100% in the whole game. This level pissed him off more than anything else in the game. Several hours of frustrated backtracking and exploring went into this. Guess I'll show this to him now, though I doubt he remembers.

  • @pinktooth5473
    @pinktooth5473 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers once again to @zeromaster . You continually amaze and inspire me, man. Keep up the awesome work and fuckin DOOM on, brother!! (also, stoked as shit that jRomero remarked on this feat. Keep setting the bar, bro, you're the best.)

  • @danem2215
    @danem2215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    900 dislikes because it took someone 24 years to upend the notion that it was unattainable? Wild community.

  • @kvnc0039
    @kvnc0039 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Oye amigo felicidades 👌 eres todo un crack

    • @fabian5786
      @fabian5786 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aunque no sepas ingles al menos usa Google traductor

    • @George-wv5wk
      @George-wv5wk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fabian5786 El sentido del mensaje es hacerle saber al runner que no solo la comunidad inglesa aprecia su logro...

    • @kvnc0039
      @kvnc0039 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George La verdad es así 👌

    • @fabian5786
      @fabian5786 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tanto te costaba escribir algo como "Hello friend congratulations 👌 You're all crack
      the Spanish-speaking community supports you"
      Aunque no se si la comunidad inglesa tambien use la palabra "crack" para referirse a alguien pro o algo asi :u

    • @kvnc0039
      @kvnc0039 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@fabian5786 Bueno si no te gusto mi comentario en español lo lamento mucho pero es mi comentario no el tuyo :v

  • @sevenherdsmen
    @sevenherdsmen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow dude, I played doom for ages and I was goood, but I never reached that expert Level of agility and Level knowledge!

  • @jsapexvideos3321
    @jsapexvideos3321 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an old Secret! i have known this for over 15 years, but never told anyone.

  • @Mr.Eternal966
    @Mr.Eternal966 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 30 and I've playing Doom since i was 15... and i could honestly say i'd never be able to find this solution.... you Sir are a fucking legend, my most sincere respect....