Good Doom WADs - REVPRBLM.WAD (The Revenant Problem)
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- Today we shall play a Doom WAD that's a spoof of the trolley problem thought experiment. It's another Doom WAD from Revenant100 of Doomworld, or MarphitimusBlackimus of TH-cam (the creator of those two crazy revenant WADs), and it's a nice take on the experiment.
Go here to download REVPRBLM.WAD (The Revenant Problem):
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Thanks for checking out The Revenant Problem.
When can we expect the zero Revenants wad?
MillywiggZ, never! Because it will be a boring map.
@Blade1067: Haha, maybe a -1 Revenant wad then. A normal living non-demon man who is plagued by rockets being fired at him.
Then those "Bony skeletons" won't be in the map, it will be the same old, but weak and colored negatively.
@Blade1067: How about we keep the zero Revenant idea and throughout the wad you see no skeletons with their skelerockets. It's a large wad until the final room containing only a mirror. As you get closer you realize you are the Revenant but through the trauma of the wad begin to doubt that you and your world is real. Then 'Komm Susser Todd' plays.
on nightmare (the highest difficulty) monsters respawn after you kill them. that's why it's not compatible
ohhhhhh
unknownkingdom I gained brain cells reading that.
@@TheBigDynamo That's a first.
so thats why it was so hard as a child.(i am a teen)
@@crazychang0434 MAP32 SOMETHING WRONG 19:48 !
No, Aquarius, you didnt break the map at 27:45.
You were so busy deciding where you would divert the trolley you never thought about stopping the trolley itself.
That's the true correct answer to the trolley problem.
I guess that was one way to derail the trolley...
The Dopefish burping before like 55 explosions and an Icon death killed me
The beauty of this specific brand of the trolley problem is that you can interpret it as an abstraction of humanity or take it at face value.
We don't know if these demons have greater moral complexity themselves. They may just be evil or they may be innocent since you don't SEE them doing anything.
So the question is not just "Is it right to let A die to save B, or should B be sacrificed to save A"
It can also be "Is it right to let threat A go unchecked compared to threat B, and vice versa", a question which essentially turns the whole system on its head in a way that doesn't actually disrupt it.
I also love the increasing variables being introduced without dialogue, like "The arachnotron and the mancubus have relatives that notice your decision and confront you about it."
The lost soul versus the pain elemental felt like "should you let a mother or her son die? I let the mother live. She can birth more children"
haha porn
"Look at me dance!"
-Aquarius199, playing a fucking Doom WAD.
It’s the Guy who put the ROBLOX Horror Music to TH-cam!
(Misspelt TH-cam sorry)
This WAD got promoted in the Steam News for DOOM...
I really expected that all the monsters you saved would show up in Map 30 and you would have to fight them.
shuichiboy We should tell MarphitimusBlackimus to put this idea of yours to work right away
that probably just wouldn't be possible, as the scripting in doom... let's just say it isn't good for "remembering" things.
@@charbomber110
Hexen remembers which switch was pulled in one world to open up a door in another. I've seen Doom Wads that do similar scripting as well. So it could be a matter of having another switch in each level that opens up a door or teleporter or whatever is needed to be done in summoning monsters for Map 30.
@@stylesrj I did not know this as I have NEVER played/seen hexen, but that's a cool idea.
Late, but:
@@charbomber110 | It Only Gets Worse actually comes to mind as a sort of rebuttal to what you said. To get to the true ending, you have to flip a hidden switch in one of the levels, and when you get to the bonus map select at the end, if you flipped that switch, the ending is available. The variable used to track that across maps could probably be used as a base and turned up to 12, with one variabe being set for each map; a 1 for Left, and a 2 _(At least, I_ think _this could be more than just binary...)_ for Right. _(A 0 would indicate that you skipped the level out-right, and could fire off a No Fair Cheating measure.)_
I love that it uses Gman’s “it’s time to choose” line. It’s too perfect.
Ngl I'd forgotten the gman's voice and thought he got coincident to voice that
The spider mastermind can't die by barrel explosions, because it's immune to area damage like the cyberdemon.
I think you made the right choices. Kill as absolute few as possible. :3
I just realized this is the *opposite* of Doom! You have no guns and nowhere to run, and you're having to save the monsters.
People better not connect this to Undertale
SouthwesternEagle Nevermind.
SouthwesternEagle the saving the monsters part
I think
Oh? People save monsters in Undertale?
Chances are, if you got to this video, you're knee deep in gaming and recognized G-man instantly :D
I did, but his quote sounds to be a little different from what I remember
olzhas1one if it's because it sounds like a different voice actor, that's because it is from the half-life 1 ending.
He also says "time to choose" a couple of times in that ending if you stand around pondering.
Some people spend more time in half-life than real-life.
Just like,
Old times.
@@lethalbroccoli01 gotem good haha
No offense
But i would have put the imp on the left out of its misery
Honestly
whats actually happening in hdoom
@@sadcat1565
I have hdoom and Russian overkill on
I'm the thot slayer
@@ThatOneGuy-fb3jr cool
Well, I'd say it is morally better to end the Imp's misery, as well as the Marine.
Both are presumably struggle snuggling until the end of time, its not their choice, and you can't quite tell how they feel about it either, but I imagine after a while its not a pleasant experience.
So, end the suffering of two, because attempting to kill the other just makes them fall over.
What would have been funny is if at the end, the game placed you inside the test chamber, where you're alone on your side, and there are five monsters on the other, and you're at the mercy of some random NPC, that (like most) will likely choose to kill as few people as possible.
Did you know that when a Cybertrolley fires rocketrolleys at you, instead of standing still and allowing them to hit you, it's actually possible to move to either side and they will pass by without causing you any damage? They will however still explode when they hit the wall behind you, which would cause damage if you were standing close to it. It may in fact also be possible to move forward, away from the wall, to prevent this.
"Bet you'll never guess which demons appear in Map07!"
"Oh yeah? Well see about that!!"
Proceeds to not guess and enters next map.
I've been subscribed to you for at least a couple of years, maybe longer, and I love watching these DOOM videos of yours! DOOM/DOOM 2 is easily my favorite first person shooter game of all time, and probably in my top 10 games of all time tbh. (counting DOOM and DOOM 2 as one game just because they're pretty much the same other than added enemies and the super shotgun in DOOM 2)
Keep it up man!
I blame the Partial Invisibility given to the player on MAP28 for how obnoxious that looked.
MAP 31's music is a MIDI rendition of Everything We Touch by Cascada.
can i have a link to it
dreamers242 You can search for it here on TH-cam. A music video of it is available once you search for it.
it will be easier if u send me the link to it
Now to know what the other midis are....
Lewa, Toa of Air the midi for the blue skybox is Sweet Dreams by La Bouche
th-cam.com/video/8nK1YQiaNEk/w-d-xo.html
19:25 Dopefish's dumminess killed Aquarius.
19:29
HEADPHONES WARNING
7:10 it looks like the arachnotron is dancing to the music.
also this is what you call the aggressive headbang 16:28
Have you ever seen that newgrounds doom dance competition?
www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/30786.
It's quite unsurprising who wins the competition IMHO though.
But I also disagree with them deciding the imp was better than the archvile.
The way Hissy looked at you before getting shot 😭
IT'S TIME TO CHOOSE
16:27 Wicked dance moves :P lol
16:50 what the name of song?
The funniest thing is that no matter what you choose, you'll always get 100% ethically challenged :D
But yeah, those unexpected twists really test your utilitarianism quite well.
It's because those are just counts for "secrets", which the WAD didn't had in the maps. There are no secrets, so it equals 100℅ secrets since there are no secrets to be found (excluding the 6 key door thing, if it is ever a secret area).
27:47 You saved them both. Thus making the right moral decision out of two wrong ones
What a WEIRD thing to make into a doom level. Especially since one of the goals IS to kill as MANY monsters as you can. Those ethics thought experiments are USUALLY built upon the opposite assumption. I liked the menu choices..... I'm too moral to die....
Philosophy me plenty.
This is irevenant
Yellow 13 *GOD AS LEFT THE SERVER*
You mean **HAS*
Caleb WOODring srry i am not from Usa and i quite suck at english :/
Oh, never knew it was like that.
@@jacknoir4289 Don't worry, it happens to the best of us.
There’s a weird half life mod someone made I think you should check out. It’s called scientists slaughter house. Basically you just use a bunch of objects to go sheer overkill on a bunch of scientists npc’s
Not killing the chaingunners is the most evil decision you could make.
4:44
NO YOU MUST KILL THE PAIN ELEMENTALS
LOL IKR
Nah
19:29 is what it feels like when your dad closes a door
I also see how near the end, you strayed from "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". You chose other criteria to make your choices.
18:12 How could you kill off the probably innocent anime tiddy demon girl instead of the literal demon being sexually assaulted by another marine? You’re a monster for not putting the other one out of its misery...
painhellemental 9000 and...?
"Out of its misery"?!?! We don't need The Imp Encounter yestercentury.
Maybe the other marine was having consensual intercourse with the other imp
Anime was a mistake. All weebs deserve death.
9:00 Well I suppose alls well ends well right?
18:10 I would save the female imp, because the marine making love with an imp reminds me of Terry.
whos terry
@@crimsonweeps terry mama
@@Williaq whos that
@@crimsonweeps The guy who made all the trap WADs and was generally a dick
Ah, interesting use of the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind's blast damage invulnerability, and Voodoo Dolls
Just remember though, you can't spell trolley without troll.
I just looked at my really old comments from this video, and all I gotta say is, kill the chaingunners. In fact, kill every hitscanner. MULTI REVENANT DRIFT.
34:20 I thought there was going to be Icon of Sin or John Romero to sacrifice
Map 31: Now, that's a tough decision
18:12 She didn't even die. But you could've saved the rape victim. How could you
4:25 is almost like a mother and it’s baby
5:18
I don't like you that much. fuck Arches mate
*YOU LET IMP-CHAN DIE*
*YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENED, AND WILL HAPPEN*
29:02 I believe that music is a MIDI rendition of ATC - All Around the World.
"Around the World (La La La La La)" is a song most popularly sung by the music group ATC, later called A Touch of Class. It was adapted from a song called "Pesenka" by the group "Ruki Vverkh", which was one of the most popular Russian pop bands in the late 1990s. This band was active from 1997 to 2006. This song reached #1 on the Top 40 charts in 2000.[1]
th-cam.com/video/VF_hK_jjIdY/w-d-xo.html
on the cyberdemons, you'd have a much better chance if you stayed away from the back wall.
You know watching this, it occurs to me that nearly all of these choices are meaningless, as they could be practically circumvented by "Get an Arch-Vile".
Only those which involve things an Arch-Vile could not resurrect could be considered to have any weight.
Get a Pain Elemental.
6:00 Relax by Frankie goes to Hollywood
Interesting wad, some choices are tricky, but I think you made the right choices
**puts a bouncy castle on a trolley** The Fortrolley.
MIDI version of "King Herod's Song" from Jesus Christ Superstar - so silly hahaha
19:06 i know exactly where that comments from omg
I enjoyed the midis much more than I was supposed to.
"It's time to choose." -The G-Man at the end of Half-Life
Spoilers if you haven't played the game.
Music in the background of levels is so hilarious.
When the sky was red, The impse is from, well ya know, it's origin. And the other one is from H-Doom, Which the H stands for some really bad stuff
Also, on the second level, when you failed and all the barrels exploded, MY HEART JUMPED OUT OF MY BODY!
Definitely the weirdest WAD I've seen.
Cuz everytime we touch, I get this feeling...!
Have you checked out Cyberdreams? It's an interesting puzzle WAD where you have to kill, telefrag, or use the Cyberdemon in unique and clever ways.
25:15 "Pesenka" would translate as "The Song" and "Ruki Vverh" would be "Hands Up". No need to thank me.
Saw this one a while ago, most people didn't really understood the Logic and played by their doom player standard.
(Aka kill as many Monsters)
-Also, rest in pieces imp_tan-
(Her death sound was kinda funny to be honest.)
Wish this wad was a bit longer tough, i dont know why.
In MAP07 it seems as if the demons you killed come back from the afterlife to get revenge :P
*Aquarius199:* 24:03
Speedrunners: *absolute disagreement*
27:46 good job, you derailed the revenant
No, he just jammed him. Same effect, though.
Which vehicles play the best pranks?
the TROLL-eys!
12:51 what the frick does that mean it gave you candy?
18:05 It's HDoom but You Can Spare of This 2 of Them
38:18 Poor Daisy, she exploded.
Man that has got to hurt getting slapped by a bunch of revenants
35:04 you realize those 6 hands could be buttons, right? And why didn't you attempt to press the button on the last "2 cyber demon" test that kept killing you?
Those chaingunners are wanted for multiple warcrimes, you monster
19:28 my heart beat skipped
What an ending. I guess the only moral move is not to even play?
27:47
Harvard: bro u want a scholarship?
You didn't save the dopefish. Nooooo!
The already hanged dead Commander Keens will be angry in their graves.
The true best answer is open console and go into noclip to the exit :o everyone lives :D gotta find the light out side the box!
Nanyayoksay lol
ikagura x3 hah
The Captain Kirk answer to the no-win scenario: cheat.
In case you are interested, the levels background music is jesus christ superstar king herod's song
Hey Aquarius! I've been watching your DooM WAD playthroughs for a while now, always a pleasure to watch! Took me long enough to subscribe... but anyhow. Keep doing what you're doing man!
Oh by the way, I have a suggestion for a good WAD you might be interested in. Where would I go if I wanted to suggest a WAD for you to play?
30:40 Yeah! You got that shitty bastards!
It's like a trolley problem but with a revenant
"I'll save the Pain Elemental, since it can make more lost souls."
You're basically saying:
"I'll save the Mother, since it can make more babies."
Can you really call them babies if they can't grow up to resemble you? And how does a flaming skull reproduce?
Fun fact, the Pain Elemental will do that anyway if you kill it.
You kept all the chaingunners and shotgunners alive, but I would've killed those sons of bitches without hesitation. THE most annoying enemies in Doom II in my opinion.
Great wad. I'm happy to see a play through of it as I can't myself. Do you feel more moral after your journey? Flip the switch to say no.
song name 18:01 because I want this version of Every time we touch
DAMN YOU FOR KILLING HISSY
16:57 The fun music was speed up
A lot of those level names (almost all of them in fact), weren't puns. A pun isn't just putting one word with another :P
I feel bad for the zombieman he never got revenge on the chaingunners
You did the right thing Aquarius.
I found a 3rd choice. Time well and hit the switch right when the revenant is at the point above where the platform raises, it raises him up and now he is stuck and you have stopped him there, now nobody is hurt, although you can't escape the level :P
Oohh great choice of music (for the vid)!
And you'll so have to do Ravenant bus.....
the music from the red sky levels is Around The World, though i forgot the artist name
Steventhe2nd Daft Punk amirite?
no, no it is not, i'd look up Now 6 album to know the artist name if i was you
Random drinking game, take a shot whenever you see "The skill levels here are nice as well, but what's with the last one?".
Or a reference to spock
OH THIS IS A VERY VERY VERY HARD WAD
33:31 you ran to the switch faster than lighting
*Help mans, I don`t find sound in **16:00** !*
We do a little trolleying.