How BAD Was Johnny Manziel Actually?
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What bust should we make a video on next?
Ryan Leaf
Trubisky
Hasheen thabeet
Sugar Ray Robinson
Tua tagoviloa ik I might of spelled his name wrong
Main thing wrong with Manziel is he NEVER really wanted to be an NFL player ... he wanted to live the perpetual frat bro life though.
Who doesn't?
@@soulreaper1461 graduated now, i remember making fun of a kid reading a textbook in 7th grade. He said “work hard now, get rich later and then party”. I laughed and called him a nerd, i see his point now.
@@Glibzer yes but college parties are way different and more chill. People are "better" for partying at college
@@teto85 that never happened did it teto?
@@teto85 🧢
Back in the 1970's my high school baseball coach had a favorite saying: "A million dollar arm and a ten cent head." I reckon that transfers to football.
Hey, that's what happens when parents don't punish their kids. Manziel and Josh Gordon wasted so much potential, just to get high.
@@edwardgaines6561 Yes, sir, that has a lot to do with it.
@@edwardgaines6561 u everywhere and for once I agree
@@cliffpaul2483 ✌
@@edwardgaines6561 true
One of my favorite stories surrounding the Manziel draft is Stephen Jones having to hold his 70 year old father, Jerry Jones, against a wall until their first round pick was submitted, because Jerry was determined to intervene and pick Manziel. They picked 8-time pro bowl player Zack Martin instead, who is probably their best first round pick in the last two decades.
Great story!!
Haha what a story Mark
Manziel might have worked in Dallas though. The Cleveland coaching staff had no game plan for Manziel's free wheeling style.
@@meghanmisaliarENORMOUS 65 INCH VEINY BLACK DIK FORCED INTO A STEAMY BUT WHOLE
i agree, the reality is teams like the browns dont know how to develop a quarterback. he should have never seen the field that rookie year and kept under strict watch like dez bryant was as a rookie@@ylekiote99999
Man, hearing that comment he made about Joe Thomas and how he was a major waste of 2 entire seasons for a career long Pro Bowler, and how he regrets going to Cleveland and not getting closer to those guys, makes me actually kinda feel for the guy. Thats a very mature thing to say, clearly thinking about other people and how he affected the whole franchise.
I hope you’re winning in your next chapter in life, Johnny
Same here
"TRIPLE" ditto that ! 👍
His family is loaded. Much of their wealth made by screwing over and stealing from other people. They'd drill oil & gas wells and then just not pay royalty owners what they were owed. That's just one example of the type of grifts they would run. The name Manziel is found in court records of several east Texas counties more than any other name.
X4
@@honestbuiltperformance1819
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Manziel just cared more about being famous than being good at football. It's a shame he didn't have anyone in his life to knock some sense into him, he had a lot of potential.
A big What if
@@ceufrscio707 Next Daniel Jones??😮😮
Probably because he grew up
rich and spoiled
Nah he said had LeBron trying to talk sense into him and he knew at the time nobody was gonna be able to get through to him
Dude, Manziel threw for 1,500 yards with 7 touchdowns in 2015. I don't know, sounds pretty solid to me, but what do I know.
The moment when Cleveland drafted him, when he showed the money signs walking towards the commissioner, real browns fans knew that the Gm, and owner wasted a pick.
I knew before that. Teddy was the guy to pick at QB. Go back and look at the film from their college days. Body language says all you need to know about respective levels of maturity and leadership.
I was 100% against the pick and I was right
I would have taken Carr at 26.
Haslam loves those arrogant Texas boys.
its the browns, they have wasted a lot of stuff forever LOL
Seeing Johnny, Leaf, JaMarcus, Dupree, Boz, etc. makes you appreciate just how hard it really is to find success in the NFL - no matter your level of college success. The Bradys, Rices, and Mannings of the world have something that you obviously can't coach.
Intelligence?
@@drschwork ethic
I grew up in the same town as Johnny, my brother played with him also its T-I-V-Y. We all loved him and rooted for him when we learned of him going to A&M but then what happened to him broke our town heart. He's pretty much never coming back anytime soon
I do sports for a local radio station in Kerrville. I am encouraged to joke around on the air sometimes, but out of respect for Kerrville, Manziel is off-limits.
Announcer: it’s TIE-vee. And Kerrville is more like 60 miles northwest of San Antonio.
Dud they have his original jersey still up in the field house when you walk in, i remember a bunch of my friends asked coach jones when they were gonna burn it… he didnt like that too much. 😂
@@richardzowie1984 it's okay the rest of Texas still thinks he was the best Aggie joke of all time.
@@richardzowie1984why is he off limits???
Still have his browns jersey im saving so I can sell it when it's value reaches $2.75
U wrong for this comment. 🤣
bro lemme get it lmao
You may be waiting a long, long time.
@Mighty mouse209 b Hell he has mud
@Mighty mouse209 b
My head hurts when I try to read what you call English.
Manziel and Leaf are the reason why teams evaluate mental stability for draftees.
All draftees (especially first rounders) should undergo a psychiatric evaluation before their first training camp so they could get the help they need and nip it at the bud.
They been doing that lol my cousin is in the league. They evaluate the guys at the draft combine
@@moneyonfleek305 no he isn't you'd name drop if he was. Unless it's Richard Sherman. Then no one would blame you
@@ryanstatt9910 why would i name drop him? You’re one of these fans that i guess sees players as superheroes lol its not that hard to
Believe they’re human as well. You sound miserable bro! Smh and he’s a backup safety
@@moneyonfleek305 in today's world, it's who you know. It's a very bragadocious society. Not miserable at all and if your boy made it, good on him.
Dude is the great what if of the 2010’s for football. Could have paved the way for guys who weren’t 6’2 plus to play the position. Instead he’s the cautionary tale of what happens when you buy into your own hype..
drew brees already paved the way for the guys under 6'0
If Doug Flutie couldn't do it no one can
When he turns 40-years old and looks back, prioritizing partying over this opportunity will hit him really hard. We all play a little of the "woulda-coulda-shoulda" game, but not at this level. That will be a tough time period for him.
still has more money than you will ever make in your life. what is woulda coulda shoulda to you? I think having a cool 6 million in the bank to buy a house start a family and make sure they get the best education and opportunities possible is awesome.
@@v.9395🤣🤣🤣. He doesn't still have that much. He's an addict. They spend!
@@v.9395and what is money when you're seen as a failure?? Nothing!
Appreciate what he did for A&M as an Aggie fan but he didn’t have what took for the NFL. You gotta have your mind right.
You ain't wrong dawg lol
Exactly, as a Browns fan this hurts so bad. I hated the pick at the time and I was right. He had enough talent to dominate in college, but talent isnt enough in the pros. Every player is supremely talented.
Short quarterbacks always get hurt in the NFL if they're drafted by a team with crappy line protection.
@@adamh.2791 Johnny more than had the physical skills to make it in the NFL, and he most definitely was NOT "your average college talent". It was his mind that fucked him. And HARD.
He actually did have the skill to be a good mobile Dual threat QB but he never took the game seriously and just didnt want to stop partying and it finally caught up to him it’s different partying then playing when u a kid but when its ur job it will ruin you ..
Drafting Manziel was like hiring Van Wilder to guard your brewery at night.
Or asking (the late) Jeffrey Epstein to babysit your teenage daughters.
That’s a funny ass movie 😭
😂😂😂
Just think if they hadn't traded up 4 spots. If he had still been there at 26 it wouldn't materially have been much of a difference, but they would have looked a lot less bad. If someone grabbed him and they needed a QB, they'd have had to settle for Bridgewater or Carr.
I saw him play as a freshman at Kyle Field. It was against a small school, like South Carolina State or something, but could tell right away he was something special. Saw him play a second time as a freshman then again as a junior. It was exciting. Mike Evans bailed him out of a lot of bad throws.
That is such a sad story. He was an amazing athlete who threw away what should have been a legendary career. I really disliked him for his arrogance, and beating Alabama, but I always admired and respected the raw talent he displayed during his time with TAMU. I hope he has finally found humility, peace and success in his life.
He's a college QB
@@chrischar9428 He's a tattooed freak now.
Hard to feel bad for someone that was given everything he could've hoped for.
@@edwardgaines6561Lmao tattoos are very common now. Is everyone just an alien to you?
@@rchyy9217 Oh yeah, I'm sure doctors and lawyers and scientists all have facial tattoos. 😒
Dude was on top of the world and given so many opportunities and chances others would kill for and he instead acted like a jackass and threw it all away. Massive waste of talent.
Pathetic comment from someone w/o life experience and a person on the far outside of pro sports. Ok if you say so, rube.
@@ctruth6185 lol relax stupid he's talking about how manziel wasted his talent doesn't matter if OP if a fat ass.
@@ctruth6185 he’s right though.
He got exactly what he deserved for the effort that he put forth....Lol.. Hope he can find a way to support himself now.
I'm not so sure Manziel had NFL level talent
Was a shame. I blame his attitude on his rich upbringing. He always knew whenever he screwed up, he’d still have an extremely rich family to depend on. Most NFL players have very little to fall back on, so slacking off is just not an option
Didn't seem to be a problem for Tom Brady or Bill Laimbeer. In fact, when Laimbeer was playing, he was the only player in the NBA whose father made more money than he did. He used to joke about that. Success has to do with personal integrity and motivation to be the best you can be - and that has NOTHING to do with how much money your parents may have.
Plenty of successful pro athletes grew up with money.
His parents spoiled him. It’s not the money, it’s the mindset.
Some people are who they are no matter who raises them.
Ahhh yes. "ricH pEoPLe aRe aLL sPoiLEd jErKS wAAaaHH. tAx tHe riCH"
fucks sake.......plenty of players who grew up "poor" turned out just as bad, if not worse than him. In fact that happens FAR more often because they're stuck living that dumbass street life they couldn't leave behind. Oh but right.....we're not supposed to say that cuz of certain "r word" implications.....totally cool to stereotype a rich white kid though am i right?
We can thank his parents and the rest of his enablers for what happened to him. Having talent and no one who will tell you NO - always ends like this! Imagine what could have been!
right. i still believe he could’ve been great if he was drafted by any other team than the Browns that can get his head straight.
No! He did this to himself. Don't blame his parents. Now, doon't get me wrong, his parents didn't help a lick, but Johnny did this to himself. I wish him the best but there comes a point where you have to look in the mirror and say this is my mess that I made and I will be the one to clean it up.
Exactly, the people who enable that behavior are almost as guilty. He should've been told no a long time ago.
how can you blame the parents? Once he got into college, and started to get fame, he was a full blown adult, and had money... What were the parents going to do? Hop on a flight, and go scold their kid every other day. It's nobodies fault but his, this can be said quite literally about any drug addict.
@@danielgriffiths5901 Yeah you're not going to tell a recovering heroin addict how addiction works. I have 7 years sober, my parents literally couldn't do anything to stop me, I was raised very well. It was the friends, and people I hungout with once I got older, and was able to make my own decisions in life. I know people who were 4.0 students in College, and went to become a doctor, who ended up being an addict, and addicted to drugs. He didn't start messing up, until he was older, and away from parents. Your point is mute
Bottom line, he had an opportunity in front of him that many, many players hope for but never get, and he squandered it as if it were nothing. That was, to me, the real tragedy.
He sure did but he didnt want it. Has all the money he needs so didnt care, crazy I know but.....In the end, its his life.
He was never going to do good in the NFL regardless
He was born wealthy. I don't think he really cared. He didn't prioritize football.
@@dos_gringos9853 cap he was already improving in 2015
@@Fuego_gringo254 but he didn't improve enough.
I’ll never forget when Stephen Jones talked jerry Jones out of getting manzel. So instead we drafted Zack Martin. Not only is Zack still on the team but he’s made the nfl’s 2010s All-decades team and is considered one of the best players at his position
I love it
anybody else remember reading the SI article on him when he was still at A&M (I didn't really know anything about him previously)? I immediately thought "wow, his parents sound like enablers". Sure enough, they partied with him on a night before a game in Cleveland, getting him back late in the night, breaking curfew.
What's the problem? It's not like he had teammates and coaches fulfilling their end of the bargain by showing up prepared.
@@GrimeBot-io7ho What excuses will you use for him the other 18 chances he had to prove he was capable of handling life as a professional? He was a totally irresponsible, immature ass. A waste of talent.
I grew up in Texas and for about two years, when the prison was under reconstruction, they used our high school as a place to facilitate executions. Usually they do them at night, but since the our school was closed in the evening they had to conduct them in the morning, usually before school started, but there were always delays so it usually happened during first or second period. It seemed like they did one every other week. One time they had a delay and had to do it in the afternoon and the condemned inmate shared the cafeteria with A lunch students. He wasn't allowed to leave the table or anything, he had shackles on and officers around him all the time, so we weren't scared but watching him just eating lunch from a cafeteria trey and laughing and talking to all the prison guys there was surreal. Just imagining that in less than an hour he would be dead and here he was acting like it was just another day.
@@beckydoesit9331 what high school was this lol
I grew up in Texas and for about two years, when the prison was under reconstruction, they used our high school as a place to facilitate executions. Usually they do them at night, but since the our school was closed in the evening they had to conduct them in the morning, usually before school started, but there were always delays so it usually happened during first or second period. It seemed like they did one every other week. One time they had a delay and had to do it in the afternoon and the condemned inmate shared the cafeteria with A lunch students. He wasn't allowed to leave the table or anything, he had shackles on and officers around him all the time, so we weren't scared but watching him just eating lunch from a cafeteria trey and laughing and talking to all the prison guys there was surreal. Just imagining that in less than an hour he would be dead and here he was acting like it was just another day.
I watched him play in the CFL. He did show some flashes of brilliance. I also remember him throwing an interception and be first in for the suicide tackle which QB's rarely do. They won't say why he was banned from the league post season.
Probably something that happened behind closed doors
Drugs
I was just getting into College Football in 2013, in the offseason to see future picks. Watching epics like Johnny Manziel A&M vs 2013 Auburn after the Superbowl. Shit was exciting! I'm the only one in my circles who watches recorded CFB and Im gushing to my friends "this guy is AMAZING; you've never seen anything like this", send them a clip of a play I just saw. Same thing Leonard Fournette & Derrius Guice LSU.
Guess what, we don't know shit! Multimillion $ GMs with legions of scouts triplechecking every millisecond of film....FAIL TOTALLY at acquiring talent. Its fun to study and learn, but its not predictive. Johnny was an easy lesson: He had ZERO fundamentals, footwork, anything resembling sound QB play. Like Tim Tebow. You can get away with a LITTLE bit of bad fundamentals if you can read defenses and throw to the right spot in 2.5 seconds. If you can't its over.
"How did it go so wrong?"
I dunno, but giving a cop a fake ID when you don't have to is probably a good clue.
He was at a bar
He didn’t have the mental maturity to be a pro
Jerry Jones had to be physically restrained from drafting Johnny Manziel.
🤣
Literally what i say every time one of my fellow Cowboy fans tries to tell me Jerry isn't the problem. Manziel was a GUARANTEED absolute disaster......and Jerry wanted him THAT bad.....incredible.
He wanted a wingman on the party circuit.
Would have worked…
@@rk3246 meanwhile the browns owner drafted him because a homeless man walked up to the owner and told him to. Wish I were joking.
Strong Opinion Sports did a great analysis showing the glaring weaknesses in Manziel's game at Texas A&M. The Browns GM did not have him on his board. But the GM got fired and the owner made the replacement draft him.
Johnny Football's fall should never be forgotten. His story is that of a case study material.
I remember around the time it was announced he was coming north to play in the CFL, many of the American sports commentators assumed he'd just walk in and dominate the league. Some of the Canadian sports commentators tried to play it up, but the analysts, who were all former CFL or CFL/NFL players and a mix of Canadians and Americans, were cautious and some even openly cynical about his ability to perform. When he crashed and burned, none of them were really surprised.
I know I wasn't surprised
If he had studied and focused on his athleticism, in the CFL he could've been special too.
He just never tried from what i watched and observed.
He was a beauty in NCAAF, and that's it. But when he was at his peak, he was a mobile scrambler and huge bomb passes as I recall too. CFL in the 1990's with Garcia and Flutie, (as well as others who never played NFL) that era of football was really tight. If Manziel was a Calgary Stampeder instead, then he maybe would've succeeded up here.
I never thought he would dominate when he played up north since he still partied.
@@cgasucksexactly. His lifestyle never changed.
@@derekknight9789Yep, his game was built for the CFL
Man this dude was like the biggest football celebrity of the early 2010s. Such a fall from grace
Well, he could always try celebrity boxing. The Paul Brothers might consider it.
@@edwardgaines6561 that would be the funniest thing in the world 😂😂😂
Well he did walk away with 8 million.......so.....
That can't be what he used lmao 1:45
"Testing, Cajunflag" 😂
I would like to say that even before I thought Josh Allen was any good I always appreciated his attitude. Allen works hard, and hasn’t embarrassed his team, or fans.
I just felt like I should mention that after watching this video.
Yes, we DO know how bad JM was. His style of runaround make-a-play football didn't fit the NFL. He was bad in pro football. Period.
runaround make-a-play quarterbacking works well for Patrick Mahome's, as it did for Fran Tarkenton.
His abilities and playing style was never the problem... Anyone with a brain would know that... Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes both play the exact same way and both of them are Super Bowl Champions, so stop... His immaturity and lack of giving a damn was his only problem...
@@RobotRebelCinema not exactly. Mahomes improvises and finds an open receiver who he hits with an accurate if unconventional pass. Manziel avoided the pass rush and threw up a jump ball to Mike Evans who would beat the double team and come down with it.
@@Zerox_Prime Mahomes is a generational talent with a cannon arm and ideal mentality. It's no comparison. Not to mention he's got a top notch set of skill players and a top tier hc.
@@Zerox_Prime Patrick Mahomes can actually throw unlike Kimmy Manziel😂
The guy was absolutely electric and fun to watch in college. He was also lucky as hell. I remember one game watching him do all kinds of crazy jukes and spins and against the grain completions. He had some kind of third and long play, went back to pass, had pressure, got away, guys chasing him, a big d lineman was on him...about to crush him...and as he's falling down, he just threw it up like 30 yards downfield---like a fricking Hail Mary---and a receiver, maybe Mike Evans, came down with it. The crowd went wild, announcers screaming, everyone losing their shit. My first thought was, "Holy Shit." My second thought was, "Well...that was dogshit lucky...he'll never get away with that in the pros." And I guess he didn't.
I remember that play…
1 td in the Bama game. he almost got stopped running, but he fumbled the ball after first contact, ball went backwards he catched in the air and was able to complete a pass in the middle.
Yes he was.
Wow, that closing quote really shows a lot of humility and self-reflection. It is hard to remember that guys being drafted to the NFL are very young and really not fully matured. And to get so much money, fame and success showered on them, some of them are not ready for it. Manziel was one of them. It has to be a very hard thing to look back on for someone like him. But I hope he can be happy with what he was able to do and can find peace.
He was unmedicated bipolar, with a substance addiction issue. No way he could succeed without long term therapy and medication monitoring.
@@Pdmc-vu5gj I didn't know about the mental condition. If that's the case, in combination with the addiction yeah it is really no wonder things ended up this way
Kid had mental health issues and was well, just a kid. People seem to forget that at the end of the day athletes are people too. The fact that he can look back and talk about how he regrets his handling of one of the most pivotal moments in his life shows a lot of character. A lot more character than the people calling him an idiot in these comments show
"Hard work kicks in when talent fails"
Even if he was a saint and studied and worked hard, he didn’t have the frame to play to be a franchise qb. We should appreciate his college career and not hold his pro career against him, only a select few become franchise qb’s
@@dr.reviewsfrompersonalexpe7603 we'll never know if he could. He let the fame & money get to his head. Tom brady was doubted to.
@@dr.reviewsfrompersonalexpe7603 That's speculative. Are Drew Brees and Russell Wilson still too small for the league?
A disaster created by ESPN when they made him Mr Football and it went to his head. He totally forgot he is no longer amount a group of guys he played with for many games, now he had to focus and he had no idea how.
He has bipolar disorder
He was the gold standard for being a true Cleveland Brown
There are three prerequisites to being an NFL player, toughness, the application and constant hard work to keep improving . He might have been special but we'll never know because he never applied himself . Go Hawks
I’m an Aggies Football fan, and Manziel being a bust really hurt. The thing is, he was such a bad guy outside the game, and that caught up to him later on.
Dude, Manziel threw for 1,500 yards with 7 touchdowns in 2015. I don't know, sounds pretty solid to me, but what do I know.
@@beckydoesit9331 he was a royal fuckup. Those aren't solid numbers when you include the 5 interceptions he threw and his 56% completion percentage. He partied instead of practiced. He beat up his gf. He was just a flat out embarrassment.
Montreal alouettes fan here we wasted everything for johnny football
@@STEPOFFBITCHH Please refer to Ezekiel 23:20. And through this thou shall know me.
@@beckydoesit9331 did you read your bible ?
Johnny went to the worst possible situation he could go to. He needed an authoritarian coach, or a disciplined organization.
No situation in the world can fix someone who's simply a locker room cancer, and just doesn't want to be coached.
@@dickbuttkiss6002 I think if he would have gone to somewhere like Baltimore or Green Bay, not exactly those two, but organizations like that. Stable organizations.
He would have been humbled and disciplined.
Wouldn’t have mattered, he’s just a knucklehead
The biggest problem with that is sometimes you can't help people even if you have that. If Manziel did go to an organization like that, he would have been thrown out sooner. The only reason Cleveland gave him so many chances was because they didn't have an organization that would say, "either straighten up or we'll find someone else."
A “stable organization” wouldn’t have drafted him or would have cut him after his rookie year if they did. He only got all the chances he did because of the desperaty of Cleveland’s owner to sell jerseys over fielding a winning team.
I saw him in game. He was unstoppable. I've never seen a qb like that. He left school without graduating and got a job for one of the pro-football companies.
I’m a current senior at Tivy an when I wrote an article for the school newspaper about Manziel, I wasn’t aloud to mention his failures. Johnny is my schools golden child, he can do everything wrong and still be mom’s favorite.
He put that franchise back atleast 5 years. As a steelers fan, I'm okay with that.
I'm not okay with him wasting 2 years of Joe Thomas' career though. May be a steelers fan, but I respected the hell out of Thomas. Man was the most consistent piece and the lone bright side on some terrible brown's teams.
Respect to Joe.
As a University of Wisconsin alum it killed me seeing Joe Thomas in that pathetic organization. His talent and career were wasted.
💯 agree.
Love Joe Thomas.
@@pixurguy4915 I agree, but... as. A life-long Browns fan. Thomas was the only shining light for most of those 12 years. He's got a special place in Browns' fans hearts.
No matter what team you root for, Joe Thomas and Joe Staley are two of the most beloved offensive linemen of the modern NFL. Absolute great guys and class acts.
Joe Thomas was a god tier tackle.
Got sent home in Peyton QB camp. He didn’t love football. He used it. Used it all up.
He loved football but quickly fell in love with what football gave him. As we can see now he loves the party scene more than football.
I loved him as the kid on "the middle"
Johnny texting the browns “let’s wreck this league together” was probably like how a tipsy guy at 2 AM texts every girl in his phone looking to hook up without caring who they are. As a Browns fan I’m so happy we helped him ruin his career, go’s it was fun to watch.
One thing I like about him now is how he admits he screwed up and owns it like a mature adult. I wish him nothing but the best in life. His college highlights will always be legendary!
You can't take away his accomplishments on the collegiate level.
Saying your sorry with no intentions of changing isnt really admirable. Thats his life. Thats why he is what he is.
@@tdozzy991 ... you're* sorry ...
@@einundsiebenziger5488 thank English nazi
@@einundsiebenziger5488 damn grammar Nazis are even in the football clips. What could be more inappropriate.
I felt bad for Manziel right up until “punched girlfriend”. Get bent Johnny
But why would you feel bad about someone who didn’t take his career seriously and just kept partying?
Yea I never of heard of this before
out of everything thats when you stopped.... lmao
@mike vasovski U think that make it ok to punch females lol
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 If a female is trying to hit me you bet your ass Ima lay her out.
In our humble opinion, Manziel had a chance to be special. All mental with him.
My buddy attended college with Johnny for a little while at A&M, I remember the stories he used to tell about him partying.
Gronkowski was the same way but somehow made it work. I guess that's where the term, functioning alcoholic comes from
The Ryan Leaf of the 2010s. Big oof. At least the Browns are finally better off.
Would you rather have Ryan Leaf or Peyton Manning on your team? It's Ryan. People really overlooked Ryan, but Ryan was such a better athlete than Manning, there's no comparison. And Manziel? Dude, Manzeil was twice as talented as Manning and Leaf put together. There is no debate on this.
@@beckydoesit9331 right lol
@@beckydoesit9331 you need to adjust the dosage on your pills. They're not working.
@@beckydoesit9331
I pick Manning, any day of the week over either of them--and many others.
@@beckydoesit9331 Johnny got thrown out of the NFL and CFL and even the Manning's Passing Academy. He was a good college player for maybe two years. He was unwilling or unable to do the work to make it in the pros. He reached his talent level and was unwilling to do any work to improve. He became a loser and has yet to do anything to change that.
I saw this coming from a mile away. I got into so many arguments in High School because I told people he lacked the work ethic and dedication to be anything other than a bust in the League.
Yeah, him sending a text saying, “Let’s wreck this league.” … he was in way over his head, that’s an understatement
His head wasn't right but the factor he couldn't change was his style of play that could NOT translate to the NFL. You simply cannot scramble for 20 seconds in the backfield bc you're not faster than NFL defenders. His game style and instincts were wrecked game 1.
Wow, you’re a real oracle. You should be an advisor to the king of England or something
@@wolvesetc Wow, you’re a real douchebag, you should be a Texas Senator or something.
@@fairtaxhtown he also probably wasn’t going to end up on a team with such a dominant O-line either, which imo, was probably a bigger factor to his success than anything Manziel himself ever did
All QB's who run out the pocket when the pressure gets hard may be able to get away with this in the college but sometimes....the running out the pocket in the NFL eventually stops working.
Johnny's rookie card is worth 25 cents in mint condition.
It's his parents fault. They never told him no, never made him earn anything, and his daddy's check book couldn't even get him a roster spot on a CFL team. Biggest NFL buster ever
Yes he’s a buster
Straight up bust
Biggest bust ever?
Ryan leaf would like a word
No. It's his own fault. His parents didn't get kicked out the league in two years. And parents wasn't on TMZ every other day for the wrong reasons
I was working night shift in a call center when, knowing my Browns had quite a few picks before they drafted, went outside for a break. Come back in and my coworkers, knowing I'm a Browns fan (this was in Florida) are excited on my behalf for the Browns trading up and picking Manziel. I gave myself a facepalm that when I close my eyes I can still feel....like a phantom limb....
I'm a lifelong fan of the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. I was disappointed when they signed Manziel, because I'd heard of his problems in the States. He had a decent showing in a pre-season game, but never got on the field for a real game before being traded to the Alouettes. His first official CFL action was against my Tiger-cats...the game where he threw four picks.
I remember being soooo fucken mad that my cowboys didn't draft him. Lol. 🤦♂️ Thank God, we dodged a bullet. 🤷♂️
I remember being soooo fucken mad that my browns did draft him, got alot of grief from browns fans in ctown but I knew he was just a punk.
Not only that but you guys got Zack Martin so huge Dub for the Cowboys
Fr I remember that 😅
Yeah thank god. Cuz yall so good now 💀
Proof fans need to chill 99% of the time
It also helped he had Mike Evans for a receiver.
very true
Watching tape on Evans to evaluate him was what tipped me off to Manziel for sure being a bust. Evans bailed him out so often, and I saw a lot of really bad mistakes from Johnny. Between that tape and his other struggles it should have been really obvious
Evans made him, 100%
@@JoycenatorGaming lol this guy. Okay 👌 scout boy lmao
@@moneyonfleek305 ?
Dude was a beast on the college field, but didn't have the head or the heart for the NFL. It's a shame really. With the way the game is being played today, he could have fit right in.
It makes you respect guys like Tom Brady and Brock Purdy even more, because this just goes to show that hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard
It’s funny he has now played for all 3 of my favorite teams. Browns, Texas A&M and the zappers
I was never a fan of Johnny Manziel I saw this coming
You gotta admit what he did in college was special.
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar honestly thats what makes me so angry is we had so much of him in college left to watch
And never beat Alabama again
What happened the next season everyone started to figure him out
@@jeremyjames3633 came out after his sophomore season he had 2 more years to develop into a better passer
The funny thing about all this is that the Browns had the #1 overall pick in 2000. So if they looked at character and work ethic as much as they did talent, they would've had Tom Brady in 2000 and ignored Manziel 13 years later.
Lmao
Lol if Johnny had the heart and work ethic that Tebow had ... or it Tebow had the talent . We live in an imperfect world.
There was definitely nothing methodical about the way he played. It's as if he was purposely sabotaging the intended play and replacing it with video game heroics. It works when you have raw talent and are facing college players. But at the NFL level, a game plan based on improvised plays is doomed to fail.
He did manage to make Merril Hoge look brilliant though. Not gonna say he made Skip Bayless look like an idiot, Bayless gets the credit for that.
Romo, Favre, Elway etc still had great careers playing off of improvised plays. Manzel just didn't have the mindset.
I remember Merril Hodge Predicted everything about how it would go if any team drafted him
I remember the flipping the bird thing at Washington. Brian Oracpo burger him in the turf and made that money gester
6:29 Dem pupils hahaha
"Draft day, Johnny Manziel,
Five years later, how am I the man still?"
-Drake
Did you just quote Drake like he's relevant in any way in terms of wisdom?
@@TommyFunderburk803 guess u don't understand sarcastic humor....moron
It's extremely hard to feel bad for someone who's been giving the world.
*given
Agree!!
What he needed was a real father, or at least one role model, in his life. Both his father and grandfather were man-children, and that’s all Johnny had for an example.
He also needed to control his anger, something his father never managed to control within himself.
@@Johnsmith99663 why are you saying his father was a man-child? I don't know anything about him but what I saw in the Netflix doc. He SEEMED like a no nonsense type of guy.
NFL X and Os are alot more organized and structured, whereas college is more freestyle and raw talent driven. Tebow is another great example where he simply dominated on raw talent that fits in a free style but was never going to translate well into a higher level.
All I know is...
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
I was an Aggie season ticket holder both of his years in college station. Dude was an absolute legend. Unfortunately, he was also a GIANT douchebag. And you could see both things occurring in real time.
Haha true. Im not an Aggie fan at all, but one thing I'll always respect him for is alot people forgot this was A&M's first season in the SEC. It's not like for the past 15 years the Aggies were dominanting the Big 12 lol, they were the Longhorns doormat. So no one gave them a chance in the SEC, but Manziel and Mike Evans were the best players you could have for that 1st season!
@@billblaski9523 Mike was decent that first year, but his second year was unreal. Especially in the Alabama game at College Station. They lost, but I think he had damn near 400 yards receiving.
Aspergers accounts for the douchebag part.
@@billblaski9523 we weren't the longhorns doormat in the big 12 fam
@Barney Stinson oh I apologize, y'all were Texas Tech's doormat.....lol nah im messing with you kinfolk, mean no disrespect, all just fun
Y’all should do a “ How good is ______, actually” NFL edition.
They couldn’t even answer the question in this video. They said nobody really knows.
The first episode will be about Tom Brady...😫
Man, that reflection on him blatantly wasting a part of Joe Thomas' career was deeper than I ever thought he'd go, good on him for at least recognizing and owning it.
A man among boys is college, a boy among men in the NFL. He needed to grow up, never happened. The browns were the worst possible place for him to land.
Great video as always.
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I really enjoyed Manziel’s college career, he was electric. So I wanted to see him carry that into the NFL. But I knew within the first quarter of his first preseason game that he wasn’t going to cut it. He looked way too small to be out there among those giants. Small QBs can succeed in that league, but they need to have elite speed AND accuracy. Johnny had neither of those.
Everything else about his career (talent around him, off field problems, poor work ethic) were just window dressing to that core problem.
Devo said it best... "I didn't know I was a midget"
Johnny and Ryan Leaf were kind of the same type of players in the NFL. EXTREMELY immature.
It is so easy for us to forget that so many times we are looking at 22 or 23 years old on this field/court with all that fame, money, attention, etc. So many demons just sitting there ready to jump on you. He certainly got caught by them. I just hope JM is dong better today and living a great and healthy life.
Saying that "demons jumped on him" is a poor way to express it. It makes it sound like poor little Johnny wasn't responsible for hi actions. "Demons" weren't the problem. Manziel was the problem.
Life went too fast for this fool. I hope they show this video to every up and coming rookies in the NFL.
The most annoying thing for the Browns was they knew he was trouble, everyone did, that's why he was supposed to slip to a non starter QB pick.
Then for whatever reason the Browns said eh fuck it he sent us a text he seems genuine.
i will forever be grateful that Dallas didn't waste their 1st round pick on him. All thx to Stephen Jones cause from wat i heard Jerry was set on picking Manziel but Stephen took the upper hand and instead they picked Zack Martin
Not sure, considering their last 10 years, that it would have made a difference with the Cowboys....
Butthurt tears @ 5,4,3,2.....
@@moebetta4224 butthurt for wat ur just stating facts lol 🤨🤨 but anyways at one point we did have one of the best O lines in the league with Zack, Tyron, & Travis especially when all three were fully healthy. I mean when Demarco had that one great year with Dallas or Zeke in 16’. It was due to all three of those guys playin at a all pro level. Plus it doesn’t hurt to have not one… not two but three Pro Bowl O linemen. But you right tho they haven’t done shit for the last 10 years despite at one time having three great O lineman.
@@Scuba_steve0487 most of the cowboys short comings have came from injury or bad coaching. Rn we're playing the best we've played in a long time
@@villian99918 YUP! and with Zack Martin back on that line and doing his usual dominance at RG im just thankful they selected him and not Johnny
He had some skills but he mostly ran around and found the open receiver after the play broke down. However, that's very had to do in the NFL because the players are much fasters than in college. Johnny was fun to watch in college.
Exactly. Having NFL caliber Wars helped too.
Mike Evans was the reason he had that great season
If you're not a Manning or Cam Newton, SEC quarterbacks in the modern era have always had tough times adapting in the NFL for some reason.
True. Funny, as I watched this initially, Manziel's play actually foreshadowed Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, and Lamar Jackson. The photo of Manziel and Lamar Jackson is interesting. In spite of being taller, faster and just better than Manziel, Lamar Jackson has received much more scrutiny with little reason.
As a life long Browns fan, the biggest problem is that even after a pathetic rookie year, the staff and ultimately the owner decided to give him another year.
I still remember watching that draft and see him do his money sign when he was getting his jersey. My Dad and I texted each other and that text said. BUST!!!!
Honestly, watching him at A&M I didn’t even feel impressed by his play. He had a good sense of pressure I’ll give him that, but he was way too quick to just leave the pocket and throw on the run to a random receiver. He never stayed composed and stepped up in the pocket to deliver a good throw, and most of his “flashy” plays were bailed out by Mike Evans. Mike Evans is the real deal as we all see now.
I wonder if it's because a short QB? If you're 6'4 you're gonna see more for longer and not feel like you can't throw it over the top of the rusher.
@@realMaverickBuckley Kyler Murray is proving what u said wrong. And yes he is scrambling out of the pocket a lot, but when he does he tends to make smarter decisions and executes better than Manziel ever did
You may need to go watch his film again lol… dude was one of the most electric players ever. He wasn’t carried by Evans and it is kinda embarrassing to suggest that.
@@23StudiosSports well even if he was “electrifying”, he obviously didn’t translate to the NFL. I understand the browns took a risky pick, but I feel they took that risky pick way too high in the draft
@@23StudiosSports It’s not an embarrassing suggestion. Mike Evans was a huge target and a great college receiver who knew to get open and wait for the ball to get chucked up for grabs by “Johnny Football.” He threw a lot of ducks that could have been intercepted if not for Evans, who is also a solid pro receiver, while Money Manziel couldn’t make it in the CFL. He was never going to be a pocket passer in the NFL, had a laughable work ethic, and the drug addiction and mental health issues, including being an abusive asshole, certainly didn’t help.
Johnny "Drunk" Manziel
This man really tried to use a fake license with a name Testing Cajunflag, an address of 55 Test Drive, his height at 5 feet, and his date of birth being in 1963. 🤣
I remember seeing him for the first time when he was drafted into the NFL. Couldn't stand his smug attitude, and correctly figured he was born to fail.
As someone who also suffers from bipolar disorder- I applaud this video for not making it a major point against Johnny. Sometimes the stigma is easy to use a vehicle to blame actions on whereas Manziel did all of this to himself
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How do you license all these images?
I legitimately feel bad for Browns fans who keep getting their hopes up for each draft. Manziel, Mayfield...
The saddest thing in life is wasted talent, and the choices that you make will shape your life forever.”