the best of what i ever see about cheap hawks and nemesis we are allready use another cheap/45m hawks (3 try) in t6 darks but we cant pass it because of small DPS. thank you
It's easier in that most spawns you don't have to worry about tanking. But the hard spawns are harder and you have to worry about dodging clouds so there's a tradeoff
Doing higher tiers is actually easier since you get the -70% turret optimal penalty more frequently which helps you. -50% makes rooms much harder since the rats can hit you way more especially the trigs
Been trying this set up for a couple of days and its defenety hard lol, I keep dying from the Karybdis and other BS rooms because they get too close to the outside of the room!!!!! how do i kill them with out going around them? OR should i get 5000close?
Alright bud - are you still running this setup? I've had to downgrade to T4's as I couldn't master T5's. I'm close but loosing the ships quite a lot still. That said I feel I am being over spawned the angel room and in 21 sites I've had the angel room 6 times. Are you having the same spawn rate of the angel room?
I haven't done it in a while but the higher tier is actually easier since the falloff penalty applies to the rats and thus help you. -70% is ideal and at -50% a lot of rooms get much harder but still doable
@@lowput2526 thanks buddy i stepped back up to T5 to see if i could get a good run going. I managed a few successful sites followed by one with several speed clouds which i couldn’t navigate and the kiki room. On the point of the kiki room i think the technique would be to sacrifice one of the hawks and have your other two pilots murder the drams just an idea. This is rather cool way of making isk when it goes right
hello, i have tried on singularity with T4 to start, it's a super set up, but angel's pocket spwan on 75% of my tries... is it normal ? i'll try it again but ... it i'll stay so unlucky it will be impossible to run this sites
You've just been getting unlucky. I've had runs like that and I've had runs where I don't see an angel spawn in over 10 spawns. My record is completing 13 runs without dying
cant break if there are 4 shinning drakavik is that just me or you just cant do it can you upload at normal speed a few sites did like 15 sites on sing and couldnt get all the way thru not even in 1 always geting blown up or running out of time
I've had 6 Dreks and it went ok. You want to kill the Kiki's first since you can alpha through it. Yeah here's an uncut 4 hours of me running them. I make like 4b in this session www.twitch.tv/videos/851616170
Heh it's just on max graphic settings. No color filters were used. I spent too many years caring about performance I just max settings now and take my time looking at stuff.
Not sure tbh maybe T2 Torps, Covert Ops 4, Assault Frigates 4. This is a very niche setup that is only worth running in the highest tier since the times you die (Angel, going out of bounds) won't be avoided in lower tiers so the loot from the highest tier makes this viable to offset your ship losses. The problem is your success rate will be lower which makes it much less fun to run. I still get a little tilted from dying 3 times in a row and if your success rate is 50%, it's not uncommon to see 5 or 6 heads in a row when flipping a coin.
@@lowput2526 i run it with 2 remote shield repped hawks and a manticore. I leave the manti in the room behind until i clear the small stuff. Bring the manti in for anything with big tank. Sometimes it dont get used in a room at all.
I don't think so. This setup doesn't work as well in lower tiers because you want the turret penalty to be as high as possible. And most times I've died (Angel spawn, speed cloud) cannot really be avoided in T5. Also the T6 loot offsets your losses way better obviously
Trying this out on sisi. I've succeeded four rooms, and done two sets of filaments. (Guess why I haven't succeeded six rooms). Also my boi Low Put, King of Biceps - could you put a link to the image that has the listings of AB/MWD and T2/faction for each room somewhere? I keep coming back to it.
@@lowput2526 Beast, cheers. Practice makes _permanent._ Without knowing how to improve, all I'm doing is cementing bad habits. I'm trying my best though. Maybe it's time to OBS myself and rewatch for mistakes.
Ideally yeah but you can probably do it with less than max skills you'll just die a higher percentage of the time which is mostly just frustrating. There's not a make or break point with this setup
Very impressive and great mental agility required, but im thinking it would be much less stressful to do an hour of overtime for my employer > use it to buy PLEX > 1.5bn ISK :)
Informative, not overly long winded and very well built. Nice work madam.
What a legend
This dude won Eve
Good videos dude, great production quality for such a small channel!
Very fine production. Really motivating idea! Awesome.
the best of what i ever see about cheap hawks and nemesis
we are allready use another cheap/45m hawks (3 try) in t6 darks but we cant pass it because of small DPS.
thank you
He's done it again!
This seems way easier than the 2x retri and deacon. definitely giving it a shot
It's easier in that most spawns you don't have to worry about tanking. But the hard spawns are harder and you have to worry about dodging clouds so there's a tradeoff
Great vid mate
If i had 10% of that kind of eve knowledge, danm
if only I had spent 10% of my eve time on something more useful...
@@lowput2526 No such thing as something useful, we're all going to die alone and we're food for worms. Don't be harsh on yourself.
Excellent video and explanation! Nice work!
Oh snap, this looks interesting.
Multi tasking to the max
Very creative, very impressive.
the ship that made me join Eve
Incredible i'll try this soon :)
Flying dangerous... Stay frosty pilots! Good memories from low sec pvp in 2014
subbed, great job!
Great video. Great info, I'm far too bad to do this.
great stuff
Still can’t get a run going but starting to get better. Just when I think I can start making isk I get boned on tranquility lol
Downgraded to Chaotic and still can't complete them LOL
Doing higher tiers is actually easier since you get the -70% turret optimal penalty more frequently which helps you. -50% makes rooms much harder since the rats can hit you way more especially the trigs
Good stuff !
that looks interesting
I can confirm that the Bomb launcher does not work in Abyssal space, just tried it in a Tranquil Firestorm.
That’s funny I thought of this exact setup but I was told it wouldn’t work so I didn’t try it
Funny I was told the same thing i.imgur.com/bchD8EI.jpg
great vids, Do you by any chance have the fits for a tripple hawk setup?
U said 3 Hawks are more profitable now, can u shoot a video with 3 hawks if possible pls?
he quit the game
@@kalrex6615 So did i
Been trying this set up for a couple of days and its defenety hard lol, I keep dying from the Karybdis and other BS rooms because they get too close to the outside of the room!!!!! how do i kill them with out going around them? OR should i get 5000close?
can i do it with a manticore.........................
How do you fit all those windows on a single monitor? What resolution is it set at?
Damm bro !!
Alright bud - are you still running this setup? I've had to downgrade to T4's as I couldn't master T5's. I'm close but loosing the ships quite a lot still. That said I feel I am being over spawned the angel room and in 21 sites I've had the angel room 6 times. Are you having the same spawn rate of the angel room?
I haven't done it in a while but the higher tier is actually easier since the falloff penalty applies to the rats and thus help you.
-70% is ideal and at -50% a lot of rooms get much harder but still doable
@@lowput2526 thanks buddy i stepped back up to T5 to see if i could get a good run going. I managed a few successful sites followed by one with several speed clouds which i couldn’t navigate and the kiki room. On the point of the kiki room i think the technique would be to sacrifice one of the hawks and have your other two pilots murder the drams just an idea. This is rather cool way of making isk when it goes right
hello, i have tried on singularity with T4 to start, it's a super set up, but angel's pocket spwan on 75% of my tries... is it normal ? i'll try it again but ... it i'll stay so unlucky it will be impossible to run this sites
You've just been getting unlucky. I've had runs like that and I've had runs where I don't see an angel spawn in over 10 spawns. My record is completing 13 runs without dying
cant break if there are 4 shinning drakavik is that just me or you just cant do it
can you upload at normal speed a few sites did like 15 sites on sing and couldnt get all the way thru not even in 1 always geting blown up or running out of time
I've had 6 Dreks and it went ok. You want to kill the Kiki's first since you can alpha through it. Yeah here's an uncut 4 hours of me running them. I make like 4b in this session www.twitch.tv/videos/851616170
Do bomb launchers work in Abyss?
Is this method still working for you @lowput. was working really well. but since last patch seems like its gotten a lot harder???/
Yeah it's not as worth it anymore I think 3 hawks would be more stable
Are you multiboxing with 3 accounts while doing this?
Do i have to use the Nemesis or every bomber Is ok?
This is a late comment but is this dependent on all 3 ships for lower level abyssal runs? Can the bomber do t3 solo? Ty if you see this.
Probably not because you need the -70% turret optimal penalty to not get hit and the penalty is lower in the lower tiers.
bro how do you get this colors in eve it looks AMAZING!
Heh it's just on max graphic settings. No color filters were used. I spent too many years caring about performance I just max settings now and take my time looking at stuff.
Question: Do you think i could get away with 1 less hawk in a t3 or 4? Hawk/nemesis. The third hawk pilot is still cooking.
I don't think it's worth it since you'll still die in angel rooms and some speed clouds. Might be good practice though
VERY SMAAAAaaaalll SHRIFT EXEL
Do cheap implants make a difference in any of your loss scenarios or do they just add to the bill?
Nah I wouldn't bother. Won't make the difference between living/dying
hi could you tell me what are minimal skills requsted to do it? we want to do it as a group of friends but we have low sp ^^
Not sure tbh maybe T2 Torps, Covert Ops 4, Assault Frigates 4.
This is a very niche setup that is only worth running in the highest tier since the times you die (Angel, going out of bounds) won't be avoided in lower tiers so the loot from the highest tier makes this viable to offset your ship losses. The problem is your success rate will be lower which makes it much less fun to run. I still get a little tilted from dying 3 times in a row and if your success rate is 50%, it's not uncommon to see 5 or 6 heads in a row when flipping a coin.
Is this after abyss changes?
What if i change that fit from Nemesis to Manticore ? Does it work like this ?
Yeah it should work. Won't be as good though. Nemesis has a lot more ehp with the exact same fit and slightly better damage type vs trigs
@@lowput2526 i run it with 2 remote shield repped hawks and a manticore. I leave the manti in the room behind until i clear the small stuff. Bring the manti in for anything with big tank. Sometimes it dont get used in a room at all.
@@lowput2526 ok. Now do you make it all room with same tactical: orbit at 35km and then 15km?
@@trungthanhgaming2857 all the MWD rooms yeah. Not the 4 battleship rooms I use the AB with
I lost my hawk in a tranquil after my third run due to a speed cloud. Very miffed.
Many thanks for sharing. We need fun setups like this!
One question, how do you draw aggro on the hawks?
Thank you
Regroup with the bomber so the hawks move first.
I am DOING this.
Would it be worth to run this setup in a less-stressful t5?
I don't think so. This setup doesn't work as well in lower tiers because you want the turret penalty to be as high as possible. And most times I've died (Angel spawn, speed cloud) cannot really be avoided in T5. Also the T6 loot offsets your losses way better obviously
Trying this out on sisi. I've succeeded four rooms, and done two sets of filaments.
(Guess why I haven't succeeded six rooms).
Also my boi Low Put, King of Biceps - could you put a link to the image that has the listings of AB/MWD and T2/faction for each room somewhere? I keep coming back to it.
Practice makes perfect! And sure imgur.com/a/bgMnhFX
@@lowput2526 Beast, cheers.
Practice makes _permanent._ Without knowing how to improve, all I'm doing is cementing bad habits.
I'm trying my best though. Maybe it's time to OBS myself and rewatch for mistakes.
does the hawk pilots need to high skill?
Ideally yeah but you can probably do it with less than max skills you'll just die a higher percentage of the time which is mostly just frustrating. There's not a make or break point with this setup
I can't even
Here's a 5 hour uncut session where I make 6.6B doing this: th-cam.com/video/HaanDUXZWq8/w-d-xo.html
Bro. your Uncut session is missing .could you please re-upload so we can study your skills?
@@wettoification Just uploaded one of the twitch vods on youtube th-cam.com/video/HaanDUXZWq8/w-d-xo.html
If you make what much isk can you jump a titan next time instead of a nyx pls? :)
Graf von Ortho I'm down to blops my Chremoas in next time
1b/hr with just frigates 120m invested... meanwhile i'm ice mining on 4 accounts @160m/hr ........
160m an hour how ? is that in nullsec ???
its 160m an hour with 10 account in highsec LMAO
@@ronaldwoofer5024 A Covetor or Hulk can mining 26 to 30 Mill in a hour.
Must subscribe youtube for abyssal players damnnnnnnnnn
if only i could multibox like that... lol
Very impressive and great mental agility required, but im thinking it would be much less stressful to do an hour of overtime for my employer > use it to buy PLEX > 1.5bn ISK :)
hmm try to kill angels , better eject your ship xD