Would be more interesting to run t5/t6 with cheapest possible fits where you can run this sites without problems and not some 6 bil. fits. T6 Firestorm gives in average 132 mil per run so you have to run at least 45/6 sites before you make profit and that under the circumestance that you never lose a ship. And testing those fits should be under the circumestances that there are hard waves like marshall, karbydis, overmind waves with 5-6 neuts/webs. Those are the situations where most fits got snacked when i try it at singularity.
When u showcase these fits to clear Abyss it would help alot with a small mention on what your skill lvl are at for the more important part of the fit. I get that maybe isent that easy to do but i think it kinda needs to be done becouse of how critical it can be. Do u have every single def stat at lvl 5 or just the Shield, are the drones lvl 5 and so on. Maybe for ratting it wouldent be as important becouse u can warp away if shit hits the fan but in the abyss u win or u could lose a very big size investment especially when just a few extra skills could be the diffrence betwinn a confortable win or slowly being grinded down to death.
You've got to keep up that transversal my bro, thought you were going to get popped at the end! Drop a few anchors in the right places and orbit them at 5000m with AB on
I have used/am using a similar fit, but i lost or in a t5 firestorm, when i got a really bad spawn: 5or 6 starving vedmaks and a few starving damavics. I was not able to kill them fast enough and they neuted me out. Otherwise i love that fit. also a wrecking shot from a t6 karybdis will probably bring you into hull, because you don't have that many shield hp
Love your content dude. I have a couple of questions. Do you think running nivarna's instead of crystals for the extra buffer would be better? Using hardshell and blue pill to counter the repping power lost from the crystals. And is the omega implant mandatory? (I don't have cybernetics 5 yet)
old comment but no, you would certainly not survive without crystals, as you can see in the 2nd room he really is barely tanking. for t6s yes the omega is necessary.
Did you see it? Minute 17:29 You finished the side already and go out but you lost a lot of Armor in the second. Why? I don't understand it. Great video 👍👍
When you leave the abyss you loose the extra 50% armor from the weather bonus, thats looked like that. If you enter an armor bonus weather with 0 armor you get extra from it.
Nice, was wondering when you start to shield boost the cycle time was long, then BAM its a dam XL :p. Still not a fan of drones in the higher tier abyssals tbh. Been having mad success with the Cerb.
@@Aceyface I have a VNI fit for T1 abyssal, basically low slot is 2 drone damage amplifier 2 armor reps one DC, and one membrane. 2 cap recharger II, 10mn quad lif afterburner, X5 webifier, 3x Dual 150mm railgun (Caldari navy antimatter/iron) and drone link Augmentator. Finally I have 5 republic fleet valkyries and 10 Federation Navy Hammerheads. 249.7 DPS, worked on my first try.
You can go with a large shield extender on the Ishtar to give you a significant buffer, but you lose the prop mod. Im not sure if that is worth it. But then you can face tank stuff and just go straight for the gate. Have you tried that?
I have a concept that I'd like you to test it possible. It's a dual-box idea for frigates. Requires a bomber and a skybreaker. Both are shield buffer fit with as much damage in lows as possible, and remote repping each other. I'd try it myself but my alt is still very new and can't fly either ship yet.
Better yet add shield buffer or do armor reps and switch the mids to the cap mods you replaced for armor reps on your lows, adding armor buffer on an active shield fit is kinda pointless my dude
Brave actually has a whole group of people for that ! The brave dojo leads classes, makes videos and anyone can take out roams for content or ratting by sending pings to the alliance. Our TH-cam videos are on the brave dojo, (Search up brave dojo eve online on TH-cam.) The in-game classes however require you to be part of legacy coalition, as many/if not all are held/run in our sovereignty null-sec a few jumps from amarr. We recently had an abyssal class
@@Pittigpiertje You don't need faction lows if you replace one DDA with a Co-Processor II. And yes, some sort of a deadspace booster is needed regardless, for tank reasons.
Would be more interesting to run t5/t6 with cheapest possible fits where you can run this sites without problems and not some 6 bil. fits. T6 Firestorm gives in average 132 mil per run so you have to run at least 45/6 sites before you make profit and that under the circumestance that you never lose a ship. And testing those fits should be under the circumestances that there are hard waves like marshall, karbydis, overmind waves with 5-6 neuts/webs. Those are the situations where most fits got snacked when i try it at singularity.
The Ishtar bonuses to heavies actually gives them slightly better velocity and tracking than medium drones on the same boat.
Oh! Didn't think about that. Thank you
Don't forget for those tight spots you have heat on your AB, and Shield booster. A lot of problems can be solved with heating the AB.
3rd wave would have gone much smoother if you took out that ghosting first. Made it take forever to kill the vedmaks
When u showcase these fits to clear Abyss it would help alot with a small mention on what your skill lvl are at for the more important part of the fit. I get that maybe isent that easy to do but i think it kinda needs to be done becouse of how critical it can be. Do u have every single def stat at lvl 5 or just the Shield, are the drones lvl 5 and so on. Maybe for ratting it wouldent be as important becouse u can warp away if shit hits the fan but in the abyss u win or u could lose a very big size investment especially when just a few extra skills could be the diffrence betwinn a confortable win or slowly being grinded down to death.
You've got to keep up that transversal my bro, thought you were going to get popped at the end! Drop a few anchors in the right places and orbit them at 5000m with AB on
There we go, you already have ishtar videos damn it haha
I have used/am using a similar fit, but i lost or in a t5 firestorm, when i got a really bad spawn: 5or 6 starving vedmaks and a few starving damavics. I was not able to kill them fast enough and they neuted me out.
Otherwise i love that fit.
also a wrecking shot from a t6 karybdis will probably bring you into hull, because you don't have that many shield hp
Exactly my thought too if the spawns are bad :(
@@Aceyface in other filaments it is less bad, because you can clear them fast enough, less so in firestorms
My Next Target! The ISHTAR! Nice vid! :)
this looks like you would be cap stable whit 1 or no capacitor rig(s), why did you equip them?
Once you'll get 6 neutro vedmaks and gg. Even 33% cap battery with proper cap management wont helps. Only ships with 2 cap batteries
Love your content dude. I have a couple of questions. Do you think running nivarna's instead of crystals for the extra buffer would be better? Using hardshell and blue pill to counter the repping power lost from the crystals. And is the omega implant mandatory? (I don't have cybernetics 5 yet)
old comment but no, you would certainly not survive without crystals, as you can see in the 2nd room he really is barely tanking. for t6s yes the omega is necessary.
Did you see it? Minute 17:29 You finished the side already and go out but you lost a lot of Armor in the second.
Why? I don't understand it.
Great video 👍👍
When you leave the abyss you loose the extra 50% armor from the weather bonus, thats looked like that. If you enter an armor bonus weather with 0 armor you get extra from it.
Yep
Im also very fast at clicking your videos
@Abel London :/
Thx for 1 mil sp 🤩
Put the above fit into my game, checked the trainin time.
Hope this is still relevant in another 9 months :)
Nice, was wondering when you start to shield boost the cycle time was long, then BAM its a dam XL :p. Still not a fan of drones in the higher tier abyssals tbh. Been having mad success with the Cerb.
Really? Make a vid dude would love to see
The Omni Cerb?
@@GustavMannfred a bit expensive for my tastes that one ha
how does this fit fare with the marshal drainer room?
Pull range >70km ez
Lovely stuff
Meanwhile me with a VNI in T1 electrical: *Sad Alpha Noises*
P.S. is this on Singularity or Tranquility? And is this with your main account?
Sisi, this is my main
That was a quick reply!
@@Aceyface I have a VNI fit for T1 abyssal, basically low slot is 2 drone damage amplifier 2 armor reps one DC, and one membrane. 2 cap recharger II, 10mn quad lif afterburner, X5 webifier, 3x Dual 150mm railgun (Caldari navy antimatter/iron) and drone link Augmentator. Finally I have 5 republic fleet valkyries and 10 Federation Navy Hammerheads. 249.7 DPS, worked on my first try.
You can go with a large shield extender on the Ishtar to give you a significant buffer, but you lose the prop mod. Im not sure if that is worth it. But then you can face tank stuff and just go straight for the gate. Have you tried that?
abyss wo prop mod makes no sense, u have to get the loot and speed prevents the npcs from hitting. a marshal will hit u very hard without props.
hey Aceface! is this build still working? or probably do you have better ishtar fits?
why u not try this in the live server
As a headsup this fit has some trouble with tripple deepwatcher spawns. The time to clear is just too long. Lost the fit =/
:( good to know
I have a concept that I'd like you to test it possible. It's a dual-box idea for frigates. Requires a bomber and a skybreaker. Both are shield buffer fit with as much damage in lows as possible, and remote repping each other. I'd try it myself but my alt is still very new and can't fly either ship yet.
I'm sorry for you, but the skybreaker has no utility high slot for a remote shield booster, but 2 hawks with the same concept would work
I realized that shortly after :/ unfortunate. Just wanted to use its ability to dps the frigate blobs
Can a gila Do that too?
Do you think mid grades would be OK or too risky
Is this Ishtar still operational for 2022 ? I'm trying to consider a ship for T6 Firestorms but not Gila...
Ishtar still bad ass
Hi, Aceface. Does the Ishtar handle this well still?
Nothing has changed in abyss since then but best you test on test server first
Probably Hard to further enhance your shield on there, but you could maybe add a plate or armor repairer to cover for when you bleed through shield.
Why would you want this.
Rule 1 of Eve; don't mix types. Pick one ;)
@@Entropy__ Rule #56 of Eve, there are exceptions to every rule.
Better yet add shield buffer or do armor reps and switch the mids to the cap mods you replaced for armor reps on your lows, adding armor buffer on an active shield fit is kinda pointless my dude
What rigs are you using here.
Enjoying your vids!
Would be nice if you could always show the fits in normal and sim :)
Thanks! Description
@@Aceyface Yes, I know but I am interested in your max output in those missions :p
Ace does Brave have a trainer fleet for new players where they take them out and teach things? Or at least people dedicated to training?
I think so
Brave actually has a whole group of people for that ! The brave dojo leads classes, makes videos and anyone can take out roams for content or ratting by sending pings to the alliance. Our TH-cam videos are on the brave dojo, (Search up brave dojo eve online on TH-cam.) The in-game classes however require you to be part of legacy coalition, as many/if not all are held/run in our sovereignty null-sec a few jumps from amarr. We recently had an abyssal class
How much money can you make off the t6, on average. On an okay day?
130 mil per site on average.
Would EC-300s be worth for the trig rooms?
If I scaled down this fit in cost to mid grades and t2, would it be enough to run t4s and 5s safely?
I personally haven't tested but I definitely think it should! The buffer issue will be a lot less problematic there too
Don't bother with a t2 tank, at least get a deadspace booster and then you probably need faction lows for cpu issues
@@Pittigpiertje You don't need faction lows if you replace one DDA with a Co-Processor II. And yes, some sort of a deadspace booster is needed regardless, for tank reasons.
damn. 3.7B fit...
Missed the loot in that last room.
It's because of test server so not really any point
This thing is going to die a lot in T6, due to basically zero buffer :( And it's "fast" just because of all those spawns are very quick ones.
you didn't take any cans, which is the whole point of running the site. If you did you'd barely get out in time
He didn’t open any caches. How did he make any money here
I dont understand why u go Firestorm with this instead of Gamma... makes no sense
Lower filament cost = more isl
overheat your shield booster ffs.....hard to watch
lol 6b fit 13k ehp = 2 tornado
Чемодан для тупых?
@@dronvorobev854 ну да ну да ну да да да да
@@user-in8hp5vu6h , я вот и думаю
КУПИ ТРАКТОР!!! Покажи как пройти и собрать весь Loot!!!!
Translation: Buy MTU!!! Show how to get the loot.
Ran out of time