im not an undergrad Oxford student. i also look up to singapore. but this boi made me think. i guess oxford and my cheap university is not far different tho
If I am fair and unbiased and honest, water is really dirt cheap . Malaysia should change the price. This is what any country would do. We should not be ungrateful to Malaysia, the country that has been feeding us water since independence. Without Malaysia water, how could sg have prospered. A bankrupt Malaysia is doing what they need to do to survive this crisis due to 1MDB. We should follow Confucius teachings and respect Malaysia for their generosity that allowed Singapore to survive. We must not bite the hand that feeds us, metaphorically speaking
Singapore goverment think they are the smartest people in the world....they think they could cheat thier neighbours forever and fool the world with thier hypocritical fake democracy....if they even know what democracy means...
Smart Singaporean! Unlikely many ungrateful bitches here who still don't get it why Malaysia finally bite back, after decades being taken advantage of.
Actually PAP-led administration exagarated the whole thing as in going into war because they wanted Singaporean believe that there is a diplomatic tension with neighboring countries. So that, SG people would look at PAP as the national hero who save them from "bad" Mahathir
Simple. Like a broken record player, it plays the same tune over and over again, spices it up with a little envy, race and religion. A lie repeated a thousand times seems to be true. The ex-PM is still at his old game, but the people of Langkawi and Malaysia in general could see more clearly now. It was the most embarrassing moment for a PM of 20 over years.
This young chap must have crafted his questions over nights. Smartness with a large dose of arrogance. I am glad Tun took his questions with grace, calmness and was unfazed by the youth's persistence. Society will teach him how to be humble in front of an old sage. I am Singaporean!
Ditto. Singaporean here too and I find the arrogance of some Singaporeans to be overbearing and off-putting. While I do not always agree with Tun M on all matters, I can see that he's just looking out for the interest of his people. That's what a good leader does. Of course, he isn't perfect but he has made a fundamental difference to the country's economy and forever reshaped in the landscape of politics in Malaysia. During his first tenure as PM, the Malaysian ringgit was stronger and there was a lot of progress and development within the country. It was only after he stepped down and corruption became rampant that things went south for Malaysia. He's no pushover, unlike many of his successors.
I’m Malaysian. This Mahathir is the biggest corrupter of all times. He stole from the people and if not for Singapore, we Malaysians would be bankrupt long ago.
You are as dumb as the Oxford student and the rest that laugh at the auditorium. You fell for Dr M choice of words. First buying raw water at 1 Singaore cent and selling clean water to Malaysia for 15 cent(50 sen) is a good deal, if we make money in bottled mineral water and tap water for drinking and bathing, so can Malaysia. Malaysia can sell the water to Thailand for much much higher, 1 gallon for 15 cent, everyone is the winner. Malaysia is already selling to Thailand for treated. I guess our oxford student didn't see that coming, he could have added this point to Dr M
Young chaps in Malaysia and elsewhere nowadays know old foxes are cunning and try to pull wool over their eyes to look good or win votes. Unfortunately there are some who don't.
Dr Mahathir is a Legend in politic Arena.Even Putin and many World Leaders also respected him.But the problem in Malaysia is corruptions which already become a habit and culture. It's not easy to stop this corruption in a country that bigger than Singapore.😊And furthermore it's too long to explain.
The kind of person that you can't ever argue, coz no matter what you say, they will only believe what they want to believe. Many students a scholars have this 'Smartass Syndrom' or commonly known as 'arrogance'.
I'm not malaysian myself...but i really admire TUN MAHATHIR ....Man with courage cool & calm....age catching up but his speech,brain still no 1.....may ALLAH SWT protect you TUN MAHATHIR...😊
Oh please, that trick is so old and commonly used, "I'm not (of a certain country) but...." - you are a Malaysian faking impartiality. It's just like an American Trump supporter starting the comment with "I'm not from America (erh...yes you are)" or "I'm not American (erh...yes you are)" and then start the bootlicking "I think Trump is a great, honest and for-the-people leader....".
@@chengwailiau7203..... excuses me MR....i'm not commenting to get Credit frm anyone...as long i knew I speak the truth....& its honestly i'm not a Malaysian coz as long ALLAH SWT knew the truth its more then enough for me...furthermore its my personal view of his BRAVE COURAGE to speak up abt things that not all have the COURAGE TO SPEAK THE REAL TRUTH.....especially abt ISRAEL & PALESTINE issues...... coz most WORLD COUNTRY LEADER Just ACT BLIND.....btw i'm not here to exchange debate with anyone alright.....its just my personal view & my right to PRAISE someone that i feel shd get the HONOUR CREDIT....even though I'm not MALAYSIAN MYSELF....& i dont think the need for me to prove to u I'm not MALAYSIAN....without me there are more other MALAYSIAN who can support TUN MAHATHIR .....so my comments its not a threat to others...its just a personal compliment frm me to TUN MAHATHIR.....ALLAH SWT will always protect the righteous people....😊
I'm a S'porean myself.. felt totally ubsurd listening to this young chap speaks; full of arrogance with unfairly biased replies. Definite inequitable substantial evidence to proof your point.
Im malaysian but the thing is singapore have water security problems in the past, now 65 % of water come from singapore themselves and 35 % from malaysia. The most important thing malaysia can do right now is to wait out the duration of the water deal itself. Morally it is wrong to buy water at such a low price but sells it at a bigger price. but a deal is a deal. The credibility of both countries at stake.
Now every body knw Singapore buy raw water at 3cents and Malaysia in 1962 was very generous because Singapore at that time is still a young nation from part of the State in Malaysia become an independance nation.
@@JesusSucksUrDick there is a degree of difference, is there not? Who has actual laws that allow discrimination? hint hint: bumiputra policies, and why sg gtfo from “malay malaysia” in the first place
This is a standard Oxford student or standard student from Singapore? Fail simple math. Buy water from Malaysia for they survival then claim they sell more water to Malaysia.
@@ifuknjk U are brainless or zero IQ? He claim they buy water from Malaysia then sell it back MORE. You think water can be produce like planting seed. 1 seed can grow a tree the produce a tons of fruit.
Best stop buying raw water and remove water treatment plant in Johor and no more treated water to johor. Johorians will die of thrist. The biggest losers are people of johor and not the federal government. Johorians has been pawns in the game of thrones. Wake up. All the Singapore government need is to ban all workers into singapore, no more treated water, no more ships from pasir Gudang thru Singapore water. No more food thru johor which we can easily increase supply from other countries. Dump to crash the ringgits thru financial means and we have 1 to 10 ratio, see what happen to Turkey. Send all malaysian PR back to Malaysia, you will have massive unemployment. The list can go on and on. Stop short of physical war. Only need soft financial warfare to bring down your economy. So think hard before any further stupidity.
This issue should be brought up by both countries leaders and to be settled peacefully behind closed doors. Every country leader is fighting for their own country and people rights. Unwise decisions from both sides by inviting hostility. One guy in small boat thought he was visiting international waters was then chased away by warships and coast guards. His intention is hear from his local naval experts on where the disputed waters are as he is no naval expert. The presence of the navy and Coast Guard fleet to chase away a small boat is overwhelming. Crooked bridge is a concept by Dr M bcos Singapore didn't want to free the passage at causeway possibly on the raw water supply and the possibility of pasir gudang port becoming more successful. If Malaysia is hostile, they would have disable the bridge on their own. Why bother negotiations? For the airspace system. No country leader will accept limiting their airspace without compensation. Is there any compensation package on the table? Nope. Singapore side is trying to be sneaky by letting this slide pass. If Malaysia is hostile once again, they will build 5 construction cranes at the spot blocking planes entering or landing safely at seletar airport. I dun stand on Malaysia or Singapore side but facts are on the table. We bought millions of gallons of raw water per month and Inreturn they purchased pea sized volumes from us. They need it as emergency backup. Not daily usage. Of cos both sides want to win but there must be a neutral agreement from both sides. The high speed rail is slightly controversial and in the end if there's no talk about it, Singapore can proceed to claim contractual compensation from Malaysia. That's what contracts are for. For the student I have only one question. "For fame or personal gratification?" my guess is both. Fundamentally disagree? You don't even have any foundations yet. Dr M has initiated Petronas towers, bridges, schools, automobiles... What have u done? 头没那么大，不要这样没礼貌。
If it is for fame then I guess he got what he want lol even his peers laughed at him.. As Malaysian I hope Tun can change the agreement while he is still in charge
Malaysia sold 1000gallon if untreated waterr for 3 cents. Price fixed in 1927 according to agreement between then Sultan of Johor and British authority
G Oroton, Mahaathir mentioned warships...what warships ? They were patrol and navy vessels. What a spinner Mahthir is. Where is his evidence ? Singapore Defence Minister said Singapore navy and Police Coast Guard craft have been patrolling these waters for 20 years or more. “Out of nowhere, on Oct 25 2018, Malaysian government vessels now claim these waters as theirs and have been continually intruding since November. These are serious violations of Singapore’s sovereignty.” Mahahtir said "warships'? Where are the pictures ? Mahathir has to show evidence.
well the inherent unfairness of a contract does not in itself excuse the breach of a contractual obligation nor excuse the attempt to unilaterally revise important clauses in the contract.
@@eugenedebbs2189 thats some slave owner mentality bruh. “My contract trumps fairness”. Wanted a fair deal is just human nature and holds weight in any argument. This kid got embarassed
@@ghilmanmutalib5149 This is not a slave owner mentality omg. That's just a false equivalency. This is not a contract for human servitude (in which case the contract will be immediately void for illegality). But the legal principle is that a contract cannot be vitiated simply because one side made a bad bargain. If that is the case, transactional security will be completely lost and people can just walk back on their legally binding contracts with impunity anytime one of the parties feel it is 'unfair'. Transactional security is a cornerstone of contracts and contracts can really only be vitiated for unfairness when there is deliberate and overt exploitative conduct by one party over the other to the extent that it becomes unconscionable to uphold the terms of the contract. I seriously doubt that the current water agreement reaches this very high threshold. I don't think it is met in this case and so I will just uphold the original terms of the contract. Besides, Malaysia had the option to revise the terms of the contract in 1987 and chose not to do so. This fact tilts the circumstances even more favourably towards Singapore.
@@eugenedebbs2189 honestly i didnt even read your whole paragraph because its just too boring. U can keep writing this stuff down on the internet. All im saying is Singapore is a dirty cheat of a country. Maybe go out and exercise or smth Mohith
@@eugenedebbs2189 Singapore is the snobbiest trash hole country on Earth. Lowest of the first world countries. U fine people for littering but come to Malaysia and litter/speed on our roads. U can vitiate my naturally plump ass Mohith
Being neighbours closely related to each other both countries have gone beyond agreement to settle their differences. It's a fact Singapore should admit, they purchase water at a price that is completely obsolete and absurd to go on now eventhough it was mutually inked. Why can't Singapore be generous to revise the price that could reflect fairness to all Malaysians?
Tats why singapore is singapore... Only under mahathir, malaysia cannot be taken advantage off. Under rest of the PM, it is soo easy to do tat especially to Najib😅😅
If you are correct, then Malaysia should pay the Philippines billions of dollars for Sabah. Malaysia pays the Philippines "a price that is completely obsolete and absurd". What can a few thousand ringgit pay for cost of living of the Philippines sultan and royal family. Malaysia should be more generous before asking others to be generous. Laws and and legal agreements signed by both countries cannot simply be changed by anyone party.
@@westwoodly The claim of Sabah as ancestral territory of the Sultan of Sulu is baseless. Read: “Modern international law does not recognize the survival of a right to sovereignty based solely on historic title; not in any event after an exercise of self-determination conducted (in North Borneo in 1962) in accordance with the requisites of international law, the bona fides of which have received international recognition by the political organs of the United Nations. Against this, historic claims and pre-colonial titles are mere relics of another international legal era, one that ended with the setting of the sun on the age of colonial imperium”. - judge Ad Hock Frank, 2001. For example; the ICJ in the 2008 Malaysia-Singapore dispute over Pedra Branca recognised that Pedra Branca was not terra nullius (no-man’s land) and the sovereignty over it was with the Johor Sultanate. The ICJ, however, awarded Pedra Branca to Singapore when it was proven that the British government of Singapore has acquired it from the Sultan of Johor since 1953. If ancestral claims hold strong position under international law, then Pedra Branca should remain with the Johor Sultanate (Malaysia) and not with Singapore. In addition, if historical claims could be upheld, then, Malaysia, through the existing Johor Sultanate could put a claim on Singapore as well as the Riau Islands of Indonesia. Malaysia too, via the historical territories of the Kedah Sultanate, could claim sovereignty over Thai provinces of Satun and Trang as well as Tenasserim in Myanmar. This is nevertheless, not how international law operates and shows that ancestral claims do not carry much weight under international law. The Philippines Government does not recognise the Sulu Sultanate as a sovereign entity within the Philippine Constitution. The Malaysian Government no longer pays the Sulu representatives since 2013, and the Malaysian Government had been seeking to legally abolish the secession payment (which were not rents, as the Filipinos mistakenly believe) since the late 1990s. Stopping the payment indicates that Sabah is indeed Malaysian sovereignty. Any other claims are considered satire, and should not be entertained.
@@AliffDelacoure Of course you are right. Countries and politicians interpret the situation and agreement they way they like. So Mahathir can claim Singapore and parts of Indonesia, but Sulu cannot claim Sabah. To extend the argument further, the Thai King cannot claim part of northern Malay, and neither Indonesia can claim parts of Borneo. Only Malaysia can. That's Malaysia law. Itu macham mana boleh, Malaysia?
@@westwoodly of course I am right, I refer to international laws, after all. You are just some embittered brat spouting nonsensical views simply because you want to hate on Malaysia. But the world moves on, Sabah is still a vital part of Malaysia, of which no Filipino micropenis can claim any form of legitimacy. Hate all you want, bark all you wish, victimise yourself all you can. Hip hip hooray.
This kid already had a fixed mind about the subject.. he wasn't there for a discussion.. he already made up his mind and was holding on to a strong position. This is what left brain school systems do to you.
No, I saw a kid that dared to question a now disposed msia leader abt sanctities of agreements. Both parties AGREED n SIGNED to the terms of the agreement. Now this man wants to change the terms of it by trying to shame the other party instead. If shaming has to be done, why not try shaming the leaders who signed the agreement instead?? He cant do it... bcos his agenda is solely to bring down another country which he hated so much but studied there nonetheless.
@@marktan8074 SG is not a part of Malaysia anymore. Thats why the agreement should be revised. lol you dont seem to be open to listen to other views. Just like the SG guy in the video. lol
@@lemon2524 lol ofcourse you won't. Agreements don't last forever, the fact that you think otherwise tells me you are a naive person hanging on the mercy of international diplomacy. Any power worth its weight wouldn't cave in like a dog out of "principle"
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Singapore,spoilt rich kid of SEA.. everything they do,Malaysia have to accept it as their sovereign right but everything Malaysia wants to do, must consider Singapore's 'feelings' and sentimental values first ,! Nonsense..! Totally unfair water agreement..!
Funny, the rich kids of SEA are found in Malaysia - tonnes of them. Unfortunately, only a handful of them. Who is the one who owns a multi-million $$ yacht, private planes and can host parties for celebrities? Who is the one who can throw lavish wedding party with a communist beauty queen? Who is the one who wanted to build the tallest twin-tower in the world - only to be surpassed by many other taller buildings? The kids in Singapore only wanted to study smart and work hard to make an honest living. Anything wrong with that? Indeed many Malaysians go to Singapore to be exactly like that. Ask Tony Pua - or ask even their Prime Minister and his wife who got his medical degree from Singapore.
@@azinuddinasri3394 Sorry, I stopped driving to Johore a long time ago. "Prosper thy neighbour" seems to make some Malaysians very sombong. Yes, I was dumb before to save a few cents, unlike you who want a few sens more when there are million more to make. That's being smart for you, I supposed.
Wow ... Young guy, fresh mind, prodding a 93 year old man. Damn bloody proud of yourself, aren't you. Let's see whether you're half as good when you're 93.
It's quite clear that this student doesn't understand the principles of international law (which regarding this specific issue, would be of public international law, compared to private international law. The latter being that it is completely different in context as well as whether it has any legally binding actions.) Which in this case, can only be mutually agreed upon by the two nations, thus being in the context of _public_ international law. Looks like the person does not have any understanding of UNCLOS (the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea) as well. In essence, _both_ nations have to agree on the principles and terms of the agreement (or treaty which would likely be the case) between the two nations. *But if it is certain that the Government of Singapore is refusing to negotiate terms with Mahathir on the topic of water supply to Singapore, then Mahathir and the Government of Malaysia is not obliged to meet with them.* They have to discuss it in a such a way that the agreement is fair. (by the way, I'm neither a Malaysian nor a Singaporean.) If he had done his homework (something of which I'd expect a supposed Oxford undergrad to have done), he would have known this. Oh, and his ignorance shows.
International laws are less effective here, this plays into the deep roots and history Singapore and Malaysia have fought over on for decades, ASEAN rules (especially rules between SG and Malaysia) take precedence in this case. Most of the trades done between Malaysia and Singapore are back door and international laws are not prominent, Secondly, Singapore has never refused Malaysia of revisiting the water supply trade and Malaysia is dependent on Singapore for clean water as the bill of water trade in 1962 - 2061,in lieu of that, i disagree that the oxford kid was being ignorant he was probably aggravated by Mahathir’s response to his question as he was not directly responding to it. They just both have extremely different view points and that’s ok
Nathan, I think you are apparently Unaware that the Water, Agreement referred to by the student and Mahathir was an Integral Part of the LEGAL Separation Agreement by Singapore FROM Malaysia, signed and ratified by both Singapore and Malaysia under the watch of the British. This agreement IN TOTAL, created Singapore as an Independent Country, recognised by the UN. I presume Mahathir knows what a Legal agreement is. But he probably knows that you don't know that the 2 WATER AGREEMENTS were Embedded into the Singapore Separation Agreement from Malaysia. Without this water agreement, Singapore would NOT have agreed to Separate as Singapore would not have sufficient water to sustain itself. And the Malaysian PM then and Government wanted Singapore Out of Malaysia. These are the historical facts in 1965.
The boy argue with the best speaker of all time Tun M and without any facts.. I wonder how or whether the boy is from oxford as its a shame to himself and the university and also his country..
Senile fox just slapped his own face. One moment saying it’s neutral waters. One monent said it’s malaysia water. Oxford guy had all facts right. And nobody force malaysia to buy treated water from sg. It’s an agreement between 2 parties.
@@alvinmah6148 Exactly. The Water Agreement was registered in the United Nations and no country can unilaterally change it. Mahathir doesn't know history and facts?
@@ggfffthndruj4831 well singapore was the one that spent the money to build the facilities for the containment, deliverance, operations, maintenance for this deal, they even paid for the land that the facilities that holds these systems, the potential revenue lost from logging in that area. Singapore even acted in good faith, by selling way more water, on top of the surplus of the 11 million gallons of water in, in which i emphasise is only a ONE time event, when the water treatment plant in johor is affected by pollution. Additionally, by what Dr Mahatir has stated that, even though it may seem Singapore is the "richer" state, because our "GDP per capita" is greater than Malaysia on paper, that statement fails to account for other aspects, if Dr Mahatir wants to talk about "per capita" or each living heads in Singapore, the cost of living in Singapore per capita is far greater than that of Malaysia per capita. So his arguement that Singapore should pay more just because of the fact that Singapore is richer per capita is laughable. In fact, it just demonstrates how incapable the government is able to increase GDP per capita of Singapore. Malaysia has historically enjoyed the exact same benefits of Singapore, geographically, climate wise, diversity wise, and additionally Malaysia has natural resources, but why doesn't Malaysia have identical or greater GDP per capita? I am not against Malaysia, but their government does make some questionable choices sometimes, and I am sure that it is perplexing for the citizens to have to burden the cost from the mistakes from the government, no government is perfect, but you should not just blindly shill whichever suits the narrative.
Lol yes. Sell, not give it away freely to Malaysia. The more Singapore sells, the more Singapore makes money. What goodwill is this boy talking about ?
Err...250 million gallons per day of raw water does not equal 11,000 gallons of treated water. The heck is your parents sends to you to Oxford for if you can't even count?
@@tdugong It costs Singapore RM2.40 to treat every 1,000 gallons of water. By selling it to Malaysia at 50 sen, Singapore is giving a subsidy of RM1.90 per 1,000 gallons.
What legend ? He doesn't know that a Water Agreement registered at the United Nations cannot be unilaterally changed. He doesn't know facts and is ignorant that the internet shows up his faults. He deflects and diverts attention from his country's issues by announcing 1001 promises which he himself acknowledged in the news that he just printed the manifesto with the promises coz he did not expect to win...and this is how he won the elections ??OMGOSH !!
@@strykeryker u r smarter than those igloos who don't know contracts n laws... challenge them n they crawl back into their hole... like "why" not take back singapore which is a obscene give-away by johor.. no reply !!!!
@@irwankho318 joker-u don't qualify 2 b near oxford university..can't even afford a ticket, know nothing abt. the OU or punting in summer along the bund, drinking at the near-by pub - n it is "mouth" not "mooth"... ingoriminous...pathetic...
I'm not a Malaysian but what Tun.M said was true and make sense. And I hate our gov here in SG how they treated us especially the malay race. Plz save us Tun.M may allah show us the right path. Inshaallah. amin *HIDUP MATI ANAK MELAYU*
It shows that you lack knowledge, that's all. It was a package deal which requires Singapore to ensure that Johore gets sufficient treated water supply, and also that Johore has sufficient water before selling raw water to Singapore. Singapore abide by the agreement and procure the water catchment area, paying huge compensation to the inhabitants, paying rent for the catchment area and building dams and pipelines to tap the rain water that would otherwise flood the villages or flow down into the river and sea. In addition, Singapore supplies water to Johore at below cost whenever it needs more. It cost billions of dollars to build all these infrastructure which eventually will be given to Johore - as it did with earlier with one of the reservoir. Mahathir stills sees the treaty with blinkered eye - he only sees the 3 cents and that's all matter. That's why he couldn't resolve the old railway for his entire terms as Prime Minister, nor the water issue. It was Najib who was able to seal the deal - getting a few pieces of prime land in the city centre in land-scare Singapore that is now probably worth more than a few billion Singapore dollars compared to the railway line. Mahathir couldn't see the situation in totality. Same blinkered eye he sees in his relation with China, which is Malaysia's No 1 trade partner.
When all the audiences laughed at him, i feel pity for this young guy,but nevertheless for me he was brave enough, he was lucky TUN M was old and he was just answered back question politely and calmly.
This smart Alec kiddo is talking as if Malaysia owes him a living, as if Malaysia is subordinate to Singapore. This kiddo should be taught what is humility and respect the hand that feeds him the water
I think mahathir answered are reasonable. Just revise the deal and let both government get the benefit. For this young guys, u have to more honest when asking the question.
Those questions are bias and seriously looking down on Malaysia and it's ppl. He himself a Singaporean already say it's unfair for the water price. He as an Oxford student those questions really stirs up Malaysian emotion that's why we Malaysian are really angry at him and his question . Clearly can see he show no respect to Malaysia and it's people . Can't believe that kind of attitude. Good grades but bade attitude. Malaysia maybe not as advance as Singapore but we also have a lot of talents for example , the director of aquaman he is a Malaysian , Lee Chong Wei , namewee and a lot more . Attitude is more important than grade. No matter how good your grades are how many cert you have you have bad and you despise people and look down on them you have no future. Cause a simple act of respect for other country people are not shown.
@@ifuknjk Now u know how great T.M is....those young student ask miles long question...thinking that T.M could'nt anwser it...the moderater is speechless at some point too...hep hep long live Tun Dr.Mahathir the Prime Minister of MALAYSIA...!!
@@irwankho318 u r watching the wrong video... the moderator was dumb struck 'cse of M stupid rely 2 audience's questions... pretended he can't hear n don't have answers 2 valid questions from the floor or not knowing current world events... it is so great the debate is on you-tube 4 all 2 judge wat a useless M was...
@@irwankho318 "not point of view".. BUT raw visual debate on youtube 4 all 2 see n judge... unbreakable evidence that M could not answer questions... put 2 him.
Now you know, the concept of living together in the same world. If in the profit maker's eyes, they will say "NO PROFIT, STOP SELL" but Malaysia not looking for profit but relationship
Is Oxford Union a place to spar about iesues between Malaysoa and Singapore? Will our very own leaders dares to particopate in such Q&A without any preparatiom first? Obviously
If you're really a Singaporean you should know Mahathir is spouting nonsense. What 1926 agreement, what SG sell water to MY at $60.... This is all made up nonsense. Just because you act confident doesn't mean what you say is true. Do some fact checking on what he says. His facts are all over the place.
Suprianto tun m didnt mention singapore sell treated water 60$ to malaysia again. what tun m meant SG is selling the treated water to others. adoi cetek
The attack by this fellos singaporean student in Oxford is full of hatred and resentment towards Malaysia. Is this the quality that we want from our students? Pls take care of our image abroad
This is when you asked the kids, what differences does this makes? There are people that will do their job and decide what needs to happen. Mahathir is not a mafia leader.
What spirit of ASEAN? Spirit of ASEAN you don't intrude into another country. China intrudes into Malaysia waters and islands in the South China Sea., and Malaysia accepts it. But that doesn't mean Malaysia can intrude into a neighbouring country. Indonesia could easily have blasted the intruder into the bottom of the sea.
@@westwoodly Ayya... told you to get your fact right before come public... at first because of no agreement for a straight bridge option of crook bridge arrise.. nobody draw a crook bridge on day one... grow up la bro...
That kid just got his ass handed to him. What was he thinking when he thought of taking on a master politician who has had more years in power than the kid had in birthdays? Gotta love how Tun Mahathir was cool as a cucumber and easily turned the tables without flinching, and without giving any actual answers.
Statesman Tun has had a long and respected career at the national or international level, he saved our country from kleptocracy, he saved our country from bankruptcy...he's highly respected by all Malaysians who love this country !
Had a great exchange with Malaysian PM Tun Dr Mahathir at the Oxford Union, where I asked him about the ongoing maritime dispute between Singapore and Malaysia. Dr M responded that the 1962 Water Agreement is unfair to Malaysia. During our exchange, I understood his argument to mean that it was unfair for Malaysia to sell untreated water to Singapore at 3 sen per 1,000 gallons but buy treated water from Singapore at $60 per 1,000 gallons. Thinking that $60 per 1,000 gallons seemed strangely high, I subsequently double-checked this. It turns out that that Dr M was referring to the price at which Singapore's PUB sells water domestically (approximately RM 60 per 1,000 gallons). Singapore sells treated water to Johor at 50 sen per 1,000 gallons. Dr Mahathir thinks this is unfair but I disagree. Given that it costs Singapore RM 2.40 to treat 1,000 gallons of water, Singapore subsidises the water by RM 1.90 per 1,000 gallons. Johor sells this treated water to Malaysians at RM 3.95 per 1,000 gallons - meaning Johor earns a profit of RM 3.45 per 1,000 gallons. Dr M also noted that Singapore has bought water from Malaysia at a fixed price of 3 sen per 1,000 gallons since 1926, and that Singapore has stopped Malaysia from revising the price. This is also inaccurate. Singapore has purchased water at this price since 1962. Under the 1962 Water Agreement, Malaysia had the right to review the price in 1987 (when Dr M was PM). Malaysia chose not to do so. Furthermore, as Singapore's Foreign Minister noted in Parliament earlier this week, Singapore is obliged to sell Malaysia 5 million gallons per day (gpd) of treated water but out of goodwill supplies 16 million gpd. Two weeks ago, at Johor’s request, Singapore further increased the supply of subsidised water to 22 million gpd. In 2018, also at Johor’s request, Singapore supplied more than the usual 16 million gpd for 20 days. All the additional treated water has been supplied to Johor at the
@@ifuknjk in fairness malaysia should increase water prices...singapore goverment earned billions more than malaysia...sorry to say but the singapore goverment are insanely greedy..
“Sepandai pandai tupai lompat akhirnya jatuh ke tanah juga” dah dapat 3 sen per gallon ape lagi nak bising wahai budakk... Sounding smart doesn’t mean you’re smart
From my perspective, I can see a smart Alec Oxford educated student trying to outstrip A old and experienced 2 times Malaysian president man but in all ways he unsuccessfully tried but nothing is viable. “Modesty helps one goes forward while arrogance and conceited will make one lag behind.” -Chairman Mao
This undergrad has the guts to ask a pointed question and the former PM just deflects with untruthful answers.A typical Malaysian leader not wanting to tell the truth, evading like a fox as what Chinese Malaysians says.
That young arrogance man is not trying to discuss. He already made up his mind. Pointless. And he was rude towards tun M also. I am sorry but i see most of the singaporean acting arrogantly towards malaysian. But they dont even realised all this time malaysia supply them water. Without water you cant even live. Be grateful
It's so laughable that so many comments from Malaysians here blindly and delusionally trying to claim that Mahathir won against this Singaporean student, not knowing that he was actually school-ed and was completely forced into a corner by both reason and evidence; so much so that ALL he could only do was to keep harping on (which would be a flimsy argument in an international court by the way) the 3 cents thing, 3 cents here, 3 cents there. EVEN that argument was ALREADY clearly smacked down by the student's 3 rebuttals: 1. there's a legally binding agreement, lasting until 2060s, for raw water to be sold from Malaysia at that price. PERIOD. Black and white, YOU SIGNED IT under no coercion or duress. 2. you HAD the chance to revise it before! Not as if Singapore didn't give you the chance to revise the price. Again, YOU didn't make a fuss about it then and ultimately did not revise the price 100% WILLINGLY. 3. Singapore sells treated water at a huge discount to Johor, this is cost on our side as well - you think it doesn't take fuel, electricity, manpower and maintenance to treat water? So there is no use coming to us now and keep saying that "it's unfair" when ALREADY there's firstly, a legally binding agreement (BOTH parties mutually agreed to), and secondly, a good will opportunity given to you to revise it and thirdly, a pretty good deal that indirectly makes up for the so-called "unfairness" (cost savings from discounted treated water that you receive VS. 3 cents raw water that you sell). OOOOOO WAIT, are you able to understand any of the words above...? Oh right, you probably couldn't even get into a Malaysian University, let alone Oxford.
The real story is much more than that about water pricing. Malaysia supply not consistent and very dirty water in 1980s, Singapore asked Malaysia to clean up river & water bank. Malaysia refused unless Singapore pay higher price or come to Malaysia to repair and spent capex. Singapore had chosen the later spent billions. Long story short, many untold events
Sorry to say this student not even know the incident area was spore water or international water. You are not clever in all subject. So do your home work before u talk.
Hahaha true colours of sg. Pointing on another angle, but cannot face the reality. Listen to Idioteque- radiohead. It may heal you guys some for weeks.
Try to Imagine How Mr Lee Kuan Yew React to this Boy…He Maybe put into Bankruptcy By Now and into prison…Mahathir Very Calm and Relax…He Will Always Be Malaysia GodFather…👍👍👍
now i totally understand the phrase orang yg dah mkan garam dlu -i don’t know what’s the exact quote but yeah, Tun M is really a leader with so many pengalaman,
This youngster try to screw T.M...but when T.M was Malaysia P M at that time...they not even born yet...they have no respect to the olds...l dare you to talk to ur P M in such a way....you got no b....lls.
The issue for Spore was not the price of water. It knows it's too cheap. Singapore was prepared to accept a price revision in the past but it wanted concessions on other areas from Malaysia . This Malaysia could not accept and rightly so. They see it as good negotiating strategy but Malaysia see it as ungrateful and stuck up neighbour.
Walauwei this boy. This is freaking embarrassing! I'm singaporean and I agree with Dr. Tun. I have so much respect from him. Salam neighbour may allah continue to shower u and ur country with barakah and good health and peace. Ameen
Tun love to state a fact . That's why he so calm . He said the truth and it's deep . That's why sometime Tun is very sacarstic and it's always deep . Hahahaha .
Plan to reschedule the water price and negotiation always fail. Then after the water agreement end. Malaysian authority in future must calculate all the cost they had lost for years and the new agreement must be really totally severely acutely on the Malaysian side. Just 'hati kering' sell untreatment water USD10 PER LITER to Singapore. Agreement revise every 5 years. Malaysia no need to buy treatment water from singapore again. Because here we already have good water treatment facilities a long time ago. We actually dont need at all these kind treatment water for this bad unfair unfavorable 1926 water agreement. If in the future, Singapore govt feel it is unfair for this new agreement, dont say we are cruel, unmankind, unacceptable or any labels that you like to label us...think it now before its to late. Be wise, dont delay, dont play play, revise the agreement asap because malaysian govt is not so cruel (now). If you dont like the future agreement gonna be like, you can plan to buy it somewhere else i.e from Batam, Indonesia. Like Tun M said before.. "I dont care! " Tepuk!👏 Anyway, how did the boy get into oxford? Look like he want to be a 'hero' for Singaporean...confront but at last been laugh because he miss the point...tak boleh terima jawapan terus nk passing microphone.. lastly he tarnish Singaporean image in the Oxford Hall. Come on lah..pergi belajar and dont play play in oxford maa. Do some good reasearch and show lah the best quality standard of Singaporean youth citizen. Siapa la pilih dia wakili student singapura. Look at SS (syed sadiq) being good attitude facing the confront during bbc hardtalk. He was agree and disagree to the presenter nicely. Haa macam tu lah.. tepuk lagi!👏
Well said Tun. These youngsters did not realise that Singapore cannot survive without Abang Malaysia. Try this for a moment...blow up the Causeway and see how long Singapore can endure and last. Enough is enough of this anti-Malaysia feelings. Learn to count your blessings and not with your proud mouth blastings. A new generation of 'young farts'. "We eat more salt than they eat rice"
There is a reason why Singapore Dollar is now 3.3 MYR and its not Mahathir that is suffering because they are billionaires, its the Malaysians who are suffering because Malaysians are lagging behind even by Indonesian and Vietnam standards
I like how most people in the comments are condemning and enlarging small mistakes made by the Oxford student from Singapore , you won't understand the pressure and circumstances while standing in front of a crowd and speaking to Dr. Mahathir like the student did. 98% of you probably wouldn't even have the courage or opportunity to do so.
Well drafted, concise, memorized questions that somehow show stupidity and laughable arrogance that has no weight. Always good at presentation with little substance.
im not an undergrad Oxford student. i also look up to singapore. but this boi
made me think. i guess oxford and my cheap university is not far different tho
Exactly man
well said ..haha
Lol!!
Hohohoho 😄
bruh a school student can answer this simple math
If I am fair and unbiased and honest, water is really dirt cheap . Malaysia should change the price. This is what any country would do. We should not be ungrateful to Malaysia, the country that has been feeding us water since independence. Without Malaysia water, how could sg have prospered. A bankrupt Malaysia is doing what they need to do to survive this crisis due to 1MDB. We should follow Confucius teachings and respect Malaysia for their generosity that allowed Singapore to survive. We must not bite the hand that feeds us, metaphorically speaking
Singapore goverment think they are the smartest people in the world....they think they could cheat thier neighbours forever and fool the world with thier hypocritical fake democracy....if they even know what democracy means...
Opportunist cannot easily let go when they have chances to grab the opportunities...
Blames should go to stupid leader.
Smart Singaporean! Unlikely many ungrateful bitches here who still don't get it why Malaysia finally bite back, after decades being taken advantage of.
Actually PAP-led administration exagarated the whole thing as in going into war because they wanted Singaporean believe that there is a diplomatic tension with neighboring countries. So that, SG people would look at PAP as the national hero who save them from "bad" Mahathir
Cosmo John thanks for your understanding
I'm not sure if other head of state could ever been as calm , polite and candor as Prime Minister Mr Mahathir...
Simple. Like a broken record player, it plays the same tune over and over again, spices it up with a little envy, race and religion. A lie repeated a thousand times seems to be true. The ex-PM is still at his old game, but the people of Langkawi and Malaysia in general could see more clearly now. It was the most embarrassing moment for a PM of 20 over years.
Calm n polite? Or you really mean, "relek relek , cakap no substance "
There are differences between people who are smart and people who get good grades 😏
exactly my thoughts
Tru dat
@@appl2597
That the fact bro. U should get the document from both side. Dont show ur stupidity here.
@@appl2597 We'll see how smart are you at his age. hahaha.
The name suprianto? More like indonesian trying to poke his nose into singapore and malaysia problems. My gosh 1 cent. Make you rich.
This young chap must have crafted his questions over nights. Smartness with a large dose of arrogance. I am glad Tun took his questions with grace, calmness and was unfazed by the youth's persistence. Society will teach him how to be humble in front of an old sage. I am Singaporean!
Ditto. Singaporean here too and I find the arrogance of some Singaporeans to be overbearing and off-putting. While I do not always agree with Tun M on all matters, I can see that he's just looking out for the interest of his people. That's what a good leader does. Of course, he isn't perfect but he has made a fundamental difference to the country's economy and forever reshaped in the landscape of politics in Malaysia. During his first tenure as PM, the Malaysian ringgit was stronger and there was a lot of progress and development within the country. It was only after he stepped down and corruption became rampant that things went south for Malaysia. He's no pushover, unlike many of his successors.
I’m Malaysian. This Mahathir is the biggest corrupter of all times. He stole from the people and if not for Singapore, we Malaysians would be bankrupt long ago.
You are as dumb as the Oxford student and the rest that laugh at the auditorium. You fell for Dr M choice of words. First buying raw water at 1 Singaore cent and selling clean water to Malaysia for 15 cent(50 sen) is a good deal, if we make money in bottled mineral water and tap water for drinking and bathing, so can Malaysia. Malaysia can sell the water to Thailand for much much higher, 1 gallon for 15 cent, everyone is the winner. Malaysia is already selling to Thailand for treated. I guess our oxford student didn't see that coming, he could have added this point to Dr M
Young chaps in Malaysia and elsewhere nowadays know old foxes are cunning and try to pull wool over their eyes to look good or win votes. Unfortunately there are some who don't.
Dr Mahathir is a Legend in politic Arena.Even Putin and many World Leaders also respected him.But the problem in Malaysia is corruptions which already become a habit and culture. It's not easy to stop this corruption in a country that bigger than Singapore.😊And furthermore it's too long to explain.
The kind of person that you can't ever argue, coz no matter what you say, they will only believe what they want to believe. Many students a scholars have this 'Smartass Syndrom' or commonly known as 'arrogance'.
So true
Pure adamant
Thats why islam teach us manners always come first..
@@hudzaifahayob93 yep
Thanks for the platitude
I'm not malaysian myself...but i really admire TUN MAHATHIR ....Man with courage cool & calm....age catching up but his speech,brain still no 1.....may ALLAH SWT protect you TUN MAHATHIR...😊
Not like some who think they can belittle Malaysia.
@999 111 so what ??? he just want Malays to wake up and be successful. Nothing wrong!!
Oh please, that trick is so old and commonly used, "I'm not (of a certain country) but...." - you are a Malaysian faking impartiality. It's just like an American Trump supporter starting the comment with "I'm not from America (erh...yes you are)" or "I'm not American (erh...yes you are)" and then start the bootlicking "I think Trump is a great, honest and for-the-people leader....".
@@chengwailiau7203..... excuses me MR....i'm not commenting to get Credit frm anyone...as long i knew I speak the truth....& its honestly i'm not a Malaysian coz as long ALLAH SWT knew the truth its more then enough for me...furthermore its my personal view of his BRAVE COURAGE to speak up abt things that not all have the COURAGE TO SPEAK THE REAL TRUTH.....especially abt ISRAEL & PALESTINE issues...... coz most WORLD COUNTRY LEADER Just ACT BLIND.....btw i'm not here to exchange debate with anyone alright.....its just my personal view & my right to PRAISE someone that i feel shd get the HONOUR CREDIT....even though I'm not MALAYSIAN MYSELF....& i dont think the need for me to prove to u I'm not MALAYSIAN....without me there are more other MALAYSIAN who can support TUN MAHATHIR .....so my comments its not a threat to others...its just a personal compliment frm me to TUN MAHATHIR.....ALLAH SWT will always protect the righteous people....😊
@@chengwailiau7203 ....BRAVENESS
I'm a S'porean myself.. felt totally ubsurd listening to this young chap speaks; full of arrogance with unfairly biased replies. Definite inequitable substantial evidence to proof your point.
Im malaysian but the thing is singapore have water security problems in the past, now 65 % of water come from singapore themselves and 35 % from malaysia. The most important thing malaysia can do right now is to wait out the duration of the water deal itself. Morally it is wrong to buy water at such a low price but sells it at a bigger price. but a deal is a deal. The credibility of both countries at stake.
Im Malaysian and I think the student rightfully put our Maddy in his place!
@@marktan8074 you are just as stupidly obnoxious as this student!
Yeah maybe eat a lot shit.. 🤣🤣🤣
Of course you said like this, you are a Malay...😅.....
Now every body knw Singapore buy raw water at 3cents and Malaysia in 1962 was very generous because Singapore at that time is still a young nation from part of the State in Malaysia become an independance nation.
@Lee Choon hoe well Singaporean aint that nice to their own minorities as well ..pot calling the kettle black huh?
@@JesusSucksUrDick there is a degree of difference, is there not? Who has actual laws that allow discrimination? hint hint: bumiputra policies, and why sg gtfo from “malay malaysia” in the first place
@@lol... Yeh we ran away because we wanted mulit-culturalism not communalism.
This is a standard Oxford student or standard student from Singapore?
Fail simple math. Buy water from Malaysia for they survival then claim they sell more water to Malaysia.
u r bonkers... buy raw water n then sells TREATED water....11,000 MORE gallons per day....
@@ifuknjk U are brainless or zero IQ? He claim they buy water from Malaysia then sell it back MORE. You think water can be produce like planting seed. 1 seed can grow a tree the produce a tons of fruit.
@@ifuknjk it's more than what has been agreed (to sell for Malaysia ). But not more than what they bought from Malaysia. They benefited either ways
Best stop buying raw water and remove water treatment plant in Johor and no more treated water to johor. Johorians will die of thrist. The biggest losers are people of johor and not the federal government. Johorians has been pawns in the game of thrones. Wake up. All the Singapore government need is to ban all workers into singapore, no more treated water, no more ships from pasir Gudang thru Singapore water. No more food thru johor which we can easily increase supply from other countries. Dump to crash the ringgits thru financial means and we have 1 to 10 ratio, see what happen to Turkey. Send all malaysian PR back to Malaysia, you will have massive unemployment. The list can go on and on. Stop short of physical war. Only need soft financial warfare to bring down your economy. So think hard before any further stupidity.
@@titanworld1401 bitch we still got port klang bitch....
The ranking of Oxford is getting worse...now I know why!!!
Hahaha...agreed!
Yeo Wee Huat Huat hahahahah I’m agrees
hahaha..
hhahahahha
Yeo Wee Huat Huat Malaysians only agreed to lies..
I never liked TM but he certainly has retained his sharp acumen into his 90’s …really impressive
This issue should be brought up by both countries leaders and to be settled peacefully behind closed doors. Every country leader is fighting for their own country and people rights. Unwise decisions from both sides by inviting hostility. One guy in small boat thought he was visiting international waters was then chased away by warships and coast guards. His intention is hear from his local naval experts on where the disputed waters are as he is no naval expert. The presence of the navy and Coast Guard fleet to chase away a small boat is overwhelming.
Crooked bridge is a concept by Dr M bcos Singapore didn't want to free the passage at causeway possibly on the raw water supply and the possibility of pasir gudang port becoming more successful. If Malaysia is hostile, they would have disable the bridge on their own. Why bother negotiations? For the airspace system. No country leader will accept limiting their airspace without compensation. Is there any compensation package on the table? Nope. Singapore side is trying to be sneaky by letting this slide pass. If Malaysia is hostile once again, they will build 5 construction cranes at the spot blocking planes entering or landing safely at seletar airport.
I dun stand on Malaysia or Singapore side but facts are on the table. We bought millions of gallons of raw water per month and Inreturn they purchased pea sized volumes from us. They need it as emergency backup. Not daily usage.
Of cos both sides want to win but there must be a neutral agreement from both sides.
The high speed rail is slightly controversial and in the end if there's no talk about it, Singapore can proceed to claim contractual compensation from Malaysia. That's what contracts are for.
For the student I have only one question.
"For fame or personal gratification?" my guess is both.
Fundamentally disagree? You don't even have any foundations yet. Dr M has initiated Petronas towers, bridges, schools, automobiles... What have u done?
头没那么大，不要这样没礼貌。
Now that's a lot matured way of looking at things.
Well said bro. n that kid looks arrogant too.
Very well said. Darrion should take heed about your facts and how you look at it, instead of being the failed young turk disposition he displayed.
For fame, have a peek at his FB shortly after this event. So proud..
If it is for fame then I guess he got what he want lol even his peers laughed at him.. As Malaysian I hope Tun can change the agreement while he is still in charge
Apply aloe Vera to reduce burn.
Loool
haha
mohd salim mansurdin funny
Hahahahaha
Singapore won this debate check Vivian Balakrishnan speech on this issue.
As an American this is very interesting and I have no idea how I ended up here.
Malaysia sold 1000gallon if untreated waterr for 3 cents. Price fixed in 1927 according to agreement between then Sultan of Johor and British authority
@@shamshulanuar7718 for real tho??? 🤔
@@shamshulanuar7718 umm thanks for the info, but no one asked tho
@@rollinghippo2940”no one asked””hehehe everyone must thought that i am such a cool dude giving that word”🤓
@@shamshulanuar7718Malaysia need to do something about it. The price is really ridiculous.
So SG can send warships to international waters? On what basis?? Absurd!
Paya Chinglish yeah baseless over reaction, thats why its absurd. Especially since its their neighbors malaysia!
The waters in question is in Singapore's EEZ in accordance to International Law of the Sea.
G Oroton, Mahaathir mentioned warships...what warships ? They were patrol and navy vessels. What a spinner Mahthir is. Where is his evidence ?
Singapore Defence Minister said Singapore navy and Police Coast Guard craft have been patrolling these waters for 20 years or more. “Out of nowhere, on Oct 25 2018, Malaysian government vessels now claim these waters as theirs and have been continually intruding since November. These are serious violations of Singapore’s sovereignty.”
Mahahtir said "warships'? Where are the pictures ? Mahathir has to show evidence.
only stupid dont understand sarcasm
Then SG complain kenot use Msia airspace for Seletar airport LOL walao international waters also so hostile, airspace they dont understand
when he said "it may not be fair..." he already lost any weight in whatever rhetorics that he tried to bring up to the table after
well the inherent unfairness of a contract does not in itself excuse the breach of a contractual obligation nor excuse the attempt to unilaterally revise important clauses in the contract.
@@eugenedebbs2189 thats some slave owner mentality bruh. “My contract trumps fairness”. Wanted a fair deal is just human nature and holds weight in any argument. This kid got embarassed
@@ghilmanmutalib5149 This is not a slave owner mentality omg. That's just a false equivalency. This is not a contract for human servitude (in which case the contract will be immediately void for illegality).
But the legal principle is that a contract cannot be vitiated simply because one side made a bad bargain. If that is the case, transactional security will be completely lost and people can just walk back on their legally binding contracts with impunity anytime one of the parties feel it is 'unfair'.
Transactional security is a cornerstone of contracts and contracts can really only be vitiated for unfairness when there is deliberate and overt exploitative conduct by one party over the other to the extent that it becomes unconscionable to uphold the terms of the contract. I seriously doubt that the current water agreement reaches this very high threshold. I don't think it is met in this case and so I will just uphold the original terms of the contract. Besides, Malaysia had the option to revise the terms of the contract in 1987 and chose not to do so. This fact tilts the circumstances even more favourably towards Singapore.
@@eugenedebbs2189 honestly i didnt even read your whole paragraph because its just too boring. U can keep writing this stuff down on the internet. All im saying is Singapore is a dirty cheat of a country. Maybe go out and exercise or smth Mohith
@@eugenedebbs2189 Singapore is the snobbiest trash hole country on Earth. Lowest of the first world countries. U fine people for littering but come to Malaysia and litter/speed on our roads. U can vitiate my naturally plump ass Mohith
Being neighbours closely related to each other both countries have gone beyond agreement to settle their differences.
It's a fact Singapore should admit, they purchase water at a price that is completely obsolete and absurd to go on now eventhough it was mutually inked. Why can't Singapore be generous to revise the price that could reflect fairness to all Malaysians?
Tats why singapore is singapore...
Only under mahathir, malaysia cannot be taken advantage off. Under rest of the PM, it is soo easy to do tat especially to Najib😅😅
If you are correct, then Malaysia should pay the Philippines billions of dollars for Sabah. Malaysia pays the Philippines "a price that is completely obsolete and absurd". What can a few thousand ringgit pay for cost of living of the Philippines sultan and royal family. Malaysia should be more generous before asking others to be generous. Laws and and legal agreements signed by both countries cannot simply be changed by anyone party.
@@westwoodly The claim of Sabah as ancestral territory of the Sultan of Sulu is baseless.
Read:
“Modern international law does not recognize the survival of a right to sovereignty based solely on historic title; not in any event after an exercise of self-determination conducted (in North Borneo in 1962) in accordance with the requisites of international law, the bona fides of which have received international recognition by the political organs of the United Nations. Against this, historic claims and pre-colonial titles are mere relics of another international legal era, one that ended with the setting of the sun on the age of colonial imperium”. - judge Ad Hock Frank, 2001.
For example; the ICJ in the 2008 Malaysia-Singapore dispute over Pedra Branca recognised that Pedra Branca was not terra nullius (no-man’s land) and the sovereignty over it was with the Johor Sultanate.
The ICJ, however, awarded Pedra Branca to Singapore when it was proven that the British government of Singapore has acquired it from the Sultan of Johor since 1953.
If ancestral claims hold strong position under international law, then Pedra Branca should remain with the Johor Sultanate (Malaysia) and not with Singapore.
In addition, if historical claims could be upheld, then, Malaysia, through the existing Johor Sultanate could put a claim on Singapore as well as the Riau Islands of Indonesia.
Malaysia too, via the historical territories of the Kedah Sultanate, could claim sovereignty over Thai provinces of Satun and Trang as well as Tenasserim in Myanmar.
This is nevertheless, not how international law operates and shows that ancestral claims do not carry much weight under international law.
The Philippines Government does not recognise the Sulu Sultanate as a sovereign entity within the Philippine Constitution. The Malaysian Government no longer pays the Sulu representatives since 2013, and the Malaysian Government had been seeking to legally abolish the secession payment (which were not rents, as the Filipinos mistakenly believe) since the late 1990s.
Stopping the payment indicates that Sabah is indeed Malaysian sovereignty. Any other claims are considered satire, and should not be entertained.
@@AliffDelacoure Of course you are right. Countries and politicians interpret the situation and agreement they way they like. So Mahathir can claim Singapore and parts of Indonesia, but Sulu cannot claim Sabah. To extend the argument further, the Thai King cannot claim part of northern Malay, and neither Indonesia can claim parts of Borneo. Only Malaysia can. That's Malaysia law. Itu macham mana boleh, Malaysia?
@@westwoodly of course I am right, I refer to international laws, after all. You are just some embittered brat spouting nonsensical views simply because you want to hate on Malaysia. But the world moves on, Sabah is still a vital part of Malaysia, of which no Filipino micropenis can claim any form of legitimacy. Hate all you want, bark all you wish, victimise yourself all you can. Hip hip hooray.
This kid already had a fixed mind about the subject.. he wasn't there for a discussion.. he already made up his mind and was holding on to a strong position. This is what left brain school systems do to you.
No, I saw a kid that dared to question a now disposed msia leader abt sanctities of agreements. Both parties AGREED n SIGNED to the terms of the agreement. Now this man wants to change the terms of it by trying to shame the other party instead. If shaming has to be done, why not try shaming the leaders who signed the agreement instead?? He cant do it... bcos his agenda is solely to bring down another country which he hated so much but studied there nonetheless.
@@marktan8074 lol chill you burning ass 😂
@@ReformationUA No, it doesnt cost me much to expose this old bastard. I will do so at every opportunity I have.
@@marktan8074 man had no life 😂
@@marktan8074 SG is not a part of Malaysia anymore. Thats why the agreement should be revised. lol you dont seem to be open to listen to other views. Just like the SG guy in the video. lol
Thank you to this oxford fler, now the world knows Spore buying water @ 1 cent per 1,000.00 gallons.
It's not about the price but respecting the agreement.
@@lemon2524 Yes like the Versailles treaty am I right. Germany should've stayed as slaves to the allies and swallow the bitter pill😂😂😂
@@OfficialRapMV Nah keep to the subject of Singapore and Malaysia.
@@lemon2524 lol ofcourse you won't. Agreements don't last forever, the fact that you think otherwise tells me you are a naive person hanging on the mercy of international diplomacy. Any power worth its weight wouldn't cave in like a dog out of "principle"
@@OfficialRapMV I don't know what you are talking about.
The wisdom of age vs the recklessness of youth
Saya Orang Indonesia tapi saya kagum Pak Mahathir...usia beliau sungguh mengelabui...sangat fit untuk usia 90an...beliau sangat menginspirasi.....
Hahahhahahaah yah me too as malaysian
ilmu kutty dengan keberanian hisap lubang jubur dilorong haji taip walaupun ada tahi kuning kuning busuk dan ulat dalam lubang jubur dengan keberanian kutty hisap lubang jubur sampai bersih bersih
@@eewsswee8262 Walau marah sekalipun, banyak juga jasa Mahathir terhadap Malaysia
kutty sifu lubang jubur
dilorong haji taip jasa kutty
Singapore,spoilt rich kid of SEA.. everything they do,Malaysia have to accept it as their sovereign right but everything Malaysia wants to do, must consider Singapore's 'feelings' and sentimental values first ,! Nonsense..! Totally unfair water agreement..!
Funny, the rich kids of SEA are found in Malaysia - tonnes of them. Unfortunately, only a handful of them. Who is the one who owns a multi-million $$ yacht, private planes and can host parties for celebrities? Who is the one who can throw lavish wedding party with a communist beauty queen? Who is the one who wanted to build the tallest twin-tower in the world - only to be surpassed by many other taller buildings?
The kids in Singapore only wanted to study smart and work hard to make an honest living. Anything wrong with that? Indeed many Malaysians go to Singapore to be exactly like that. Ask Tony Pua - or ask even their Prime Minister and his wife who got his medical degree from Singapore.
Respect the water treatment , not the riches of Singapore
Malays unless lazy liars
this video never gets old. pure entertainment never get to see in any TV programs. asking about ''3 cent vs 60 dollar...'' is total backfire..
Exactly. He's just want to clearup the badside of singapore
LOL Singaporean said they are so rich but still wont pay more than 1 cent sgd. Melaka pays more than Singapore dude 😂😂😂
Lol haha so true
You want to earn 10 sen more or RM22.90 (for every car entering Malaysia) or hundreds of RM more from daily tourists?
The choice is yours.
@@westwoodly you look like a dumb Singaporean who comes to Johor just to fill the petrol
@@azinuddinasri3394 Sorry, I stopped driving to Johore a long time ago. "Prosper thy neighbour" seems to make some Malaysians very sombong. Yes, I was dumb before to save a few cents, unlike you who want a few sens more when there are million more to make. That's being smart for you, I supposed.
@@westwoodly LOL, just being logical with the price.
Wow ... Young guy, fresh mind, prodding a 93 year old man. Damn bloody proud of yourself, aren't you. Let's see whether you're half as good when you're 93.
KH Chan well said haha 😂
Trying to be smart... not your standard😂
It would take that guy 90 years to understand basic math not even on par with Tun M
Kiasu Singaporean propaganda punya pasal le.This is what happened when LKy tried to control his people with his fairy tales.
i doub that this young man could live that long lol
It's quite clear that this student doesn't understand the principles of international law (which regarding this specific issue, would be of public international law, compared to private international law. The latter being that it is completely different in context as well as whether it has any legally binding actions.) Which in this case, can only be mutually agreed upon by the two nations, thus being in the context of _public_ international law. Looks like the person does not have any understanding of UNCLOS (the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea) as well. In essence, _both_ nations have to agree on the principles and terms of the agreement (or treaty which would likely be the case) between the two nations.
*But if it is certain that the Government of Singapore is refusing to negotiate terms with Mahathir on the topic of water supply to Singapore, then Mahathir and the Government of Malaysia is not obliged to meet with them.* They have to discuss it in a such a way that the agreement is fair.
(by the way, I'm neither a Malaysian nor a Singaporean.)
If he had done his homework (something of which I'd expect a supposed Oxford undergrad to have done), he would have known this. Oh, and his ignorance shows.
What?
International laws are less effective here, this plays into the deep roots and history Singapore and Malaysia have fought over on for decades, ASEAN rules (especially rules between SG and Malaysia) take precedence in this case. Most of the trades done between Malaysia and Singapore are back door and international laws are not prominent, Secondly, Singapore has never refused Malaysia of revisiting the water supply trade and Malaysia is dependent on Singapore for clean water as the bill of water trade in 1962 - 2061,in lieu of that, i disagree that the oxford kid was being ignorant he was probably aggravated by Mahathir’s response to his question as he was not directly responding to it. They just both have extremely different view points and that’s ok
Bunkum
Nathan, I think you are apparently Unaware that the Water, Agreement referred to by the student and Mahathir was an Integral Part of the LEGAL Separation Agreement by Singapore FROM Malaysia, signed and ratified by both Singapore and Malaysia under the watch of the British.
This agreement IN TOTAL, created Singapore as an Independent Country, recognised by the UN. I presume Mahathir knows what a Legal agreement is.
But he probably knows that you don't know that the 2 WATER AGREEMENTS were Embedded into the Singapore Separation Agreement from Malaysia. Without this water agreement, Singapore would NOT have agreed to Separate as Singapore would not have sufficient water to sustain itself. And the Malaysian PM then and Government wanted Singapore Out of Malaysia. These are the historical facts in 1965.
The boy argue with the best speaker of all time Tun M and without any facts..
I wonder how or whether the boy is from oxford as its a shame to himself and the university and also his country..
Ks Joe wasted money sending him there
Dickhead showing off how they can standup and be idiotic to speak up to old fox..
Senile fox just slapped his own face. One moment saying it’s neutral waters. One monent said it’s malaysia water. Oxford guy had all facts right. And nobody force malaysia to buy treated water from sg. It’s an agreement between 2 parties.
sour grapes.. wish 4 a malaysian student ?
@@alvinmah6148 Exactly. The Water Agreement was registered in the United Nations and no country can unilaterally change it. Mahathir doesn't know history and facts?
Need more knowledge boy. Oxford doesn’t define u
Yes, yet so many comments are hating on Singapore as a country just because of 1 person.
Lemon 25 u guys got nothing to offer man. Trying to compromise somemore. Bullshit tactic all ppl can smell
@@ggfffthndruj4831 What bullshit tactic?
Not revising the contract. Stone walling Malaysia.
@@ggfffthndruj4831 well singapore was the one that spent the money to build the facilities for the containment, deliverance, operations, maintenance for this deal, they even paid for the land that the facilities that holds these systems, the potential revenue lost from logging in that area. Singapore even acted in good faith, by selling way more water, on top of the surplus of the 11 million gallons of water in, in which i emphasise is only a ONE time event, when the water treatment plant in johor is affected by pollution.
Additionally, by what Dr Mahatir has stated that, even though it may seem Singapore is the "richer" state, because our "GDP per capita" is greater than Malaysia on paper, that statement fails to account for other aspects, if Dr Mahatir wants to talk about "per capita" or each living heads in Singapore, the cost of living in Singapore per capita is far greater than that of Malaysia per capita. So his arguement that Singapore should pay more just because of the fact that Singapore is richer per capita is laughable. In fact, it just demonstrates how incapable the government is able to increase GDP per capita of Singapore. Malaysia has historically enjoyed the exact same benefits of Singapore, geographically, climate wise, diversity wise, and additionally Malaysia has natural resources, but why doesn't Malaysia have identical or greater GDP per capita?
I am not against Malaysia, but their government does make some questionable choices sometimes, and I am sure that it is perplexing for the citizens to have to burden the cost from the mistakes from the government, no government is perfect, but you should not just blindly shill whichever suits the narrative.
..if the US still have cents..😂😂. I don't know why but this line is funny.
Double meaning 😂 Dr Mahatir is a legend
“It is maybe not fair but we sell more water” Oxford Dumb Student From Singapore
Lol yes. Sell, not give it away freely to Malaysia. The more Singapore sells, the more Singapore makes money. What goodwill is this boy talking about ?
Haha dumbest reply ever
Err...250 million gallons per day of raw water does not equal 11,000 gallons of treated water. The heck is your parents sends to you to Oxford for if you can't even count?
he meant adding some seawater?
@@tdugong It costs Singapore RM2.40 to treat every 1,000 gallons of water. By selling it to Malaysia at 50 sen, Singapore is giving a subsidy of RM1.90 per 1,000 gallons.
Tun Dr Marhatir you're truly a legend and you have done a wonderful job of lecturing this arrogant kiasu being. 👏👏👏
M is an idiot... publically showing he is a dictator n liar.
What legend ? He doesn't know that a Water Agreement registered at the United Nations cannot be unilaterally changed. He doesn't know facts and is ignorant that the internet shows up his faults. He deflects and diverts attention from his country's issues by announcing 1001 promises which he himself acknowledged in the news that he just printed the manifesto with the promises coz he did not expect to win...and this is how he won the elections ??OMGOSH !!
@@strykeryker u r smarter than those igloos who don't know contracts n laws... challenge them n they crawl back into their hole... like "why" not take back singapore which is a obscene give-away by johor.. no reply !!!!
@@strykeryker
You have no rights on MALAYSIA POLITICS....so dont cross the border...ok..!
@@irwankho318 joker-u don't qualify 2 b near oxford university..can't even afford a ticket, know nothing abt. the OU or punting in summer along the bund, drinking at the near-by pub - n it is "mouth" not "mooth"... ingoriminous...pathetic...
Ironically, it’s easier for him to question the Malaysian government than his own
that young chap think he is smart to ask that kind of question which finally become a laughing stock to other audiences.
Sorry man u are 100 years away boy
Stup trying to act hero. I'll manered moron!
Hendic Tan *ill mannered. Moron
@@hendictan9179 , no apostrophe in ill.
@@freenational who cares?
So what makes you 100 years ahead?
I thought this Oxford undergrad would ask a smarter question, but it is so disappointing....Respect to Tun🤩
You are wrong !
The Oxford student made valid points even though he may not have said it well.
"Teach the kids how to think, not what to think" - IDK me probably...
experience speaks its mind...knowledge speaks its limitation...that's the difference between them...
I'm not a Malaysian but what Tun.M said was true and make sense. And I hate our gov here in SG how they treated us especially the malay race. Plz save us Tun.M may allah show us the right path. Inshaallah. amin *HIDUP MATI ANAK MELAYU*
Takkan melayu hilang di dunia.
True! now find job must speak Chinese ! So many China in sg
@@damontan4749 is it because I am chinese?
It shows that you lack knowledge, that's all. It was a package deal which requires Singapore to ensure that Johore gets sufficient treated water supply, and also that Johore has sufficient water before selling raw water to Singapore. Singapore abide by the agreement and procure the water catchment area, paying huge compensation to the inhabitants, paying rent for the catchment area and building dams and pipelines to tap the rain water that would otherwise flood the villages or flow down into the river and sea. In addition, Singapore supplies water to Johore at below cost whenever it needs more. It cost billions of dollars to build all these infrastructure which eventually will be given to Johore - as it did with earlier with one of the reservoir. Mahathir stills sees the treaty with blinkered eye - he only sees the 3 cents and that's all matter. That's why he couldn't resolve the old railway for his entire terms as Prime Minister, nor the water issue. It was Najib who was able to seal the deal - getting a few pieces of prime land in the city centre in land-scare Singapore that is now probably worth more than a few billion Singapore dollars compared to the railway line. Mahathir couldn't see the situation in totality. Same blinkered eye he sees in his relation with China, which is Malaysia's No 1 trade partner.
Because the government caught you riding PMD/PAB, you kena charged right ? Hahahaha.
When all the audiences laughed at him, i feel pity for this young guy,but nevertheless for me he was brave enough, he was lucky TUN M was old and he was just answered back question politely and calmly.
This smart Alec kiddo is talking as if Malaysia owes him a living, as if Malaysia is subordinate to Singapore. This kiddo should be taught what is humility and respect the hand that feeds him the water
I think mahathir answered are reasonable. Just revise the deal and let both government get the benefit. For this young guys, u have to more honest when asking the question.
Those questions are bias and seriously looking down on Malaysia and it's ppl. He himself a Singaporean already say it's unfair for the water price. He as an Oxford student those questions really stirs up Malaysian emotion that's why we Malaysian are really angry at him and his question . Clearly can see he show no respect to Malaysia and it's people . Can't believe that kind of attitude. Good grades but bade attitude. Malaysia maybe not as advance as Singapore but we also have a lot of talents for example , the director of aquaman he is a Malaysian , Lee Chong Wei , namewee and a lot more . Attitude is more important than grade. No matter how good your grades are how many cert you have you have bad and you despise people and look down on them you have no future. Cause a simple act of respect for other country people are not shown.
How do you know he asked the questions out of ill intent?
The old fox Tun M is brilliant..amazing how he can answer in cool manner like its so easy...
mahathir is seen by the audience as MAD.. see the face of the moderator... as M avoided questions n gave 1 sentence reply..
@@ifuknjk
Now u know how great T.M is....those young student ask miles long question...thinking that T.M could'nt anwser it...the moderater is speechless at some point too...hep hep long live Tun Dr.Mahathir the Prime Minister of MALAYSIA...!!
@@irwankho318 u r watching the wrong video... the moderator was dumb struck 'cse of M stupid rely 2 audience's questions... pretended he can't hear n don't have answers 2 valid questions from the floor or not knowing current world events... it is so great the debate is on you-tube 4 all 2 judge wat a useless M was...
@@ifuknjk
That was ur points of view not us....anyway thanks for ur info....bye bye..
@@irwankho318 "not point of view".. BUT raw visual debate on youtube 4 all 2 see n judge... unbreakable evidence that M could not answer questions... put 2 him.
Now you know, the concept of living together in the same world. If in the profit maker's eyes, they will say "NO PROFIT, STOP SELL" but Malaysia not looking for profit but relationship
Is Oxford Union a place to spar about iesues between Malaysoa and Singapore? Will our very own leaders dares to particopate in such Q&A without any preparatiom first? Obviously
Im a Sporean..but My Respect to Tun..Always fight for ur rights..to that joke boy..lu zip sudah..
If you're really a Singaporean you should know Mahathir is spouting nonsense. What 1926 agreement, what SG sell water to MY at $60.... This is all made up nonsense. Just because you act confident doesn't mean what you say is true. Do some fact checking on what he says. His facts are all over the place.
Suprianto tun m didnt mention singapore sell treated water 60$ to malaysia again. what tun m meant SG is selling the treated water to others. adoi cetek
@@appl2597 i kmow my goverment well..than u do..
@@appl2597 We know our gov facts more than you probably do. He's not spouting nonsense. You are. Sit your ass down.
@erza scarlet well said..
3:48 savage😂😂" if us cent still" have scene""
Sense*
The attack by this fellos singaporean student in Oxford is full of hatred and resentment towards Malaysia. Is this the quality that we want from our students? Pls take care of our image abroad
idiot
your dad a incel
@@johnbb9824 nice
Look at the currency exchange rate and the answer are there!
This is when you asked the kids, what differences does this makes? There are people that will do their job and decide what needs to happen. Mahathir is not a mafia leader.
Let it be anything... but why should send a warship to encounter a minister. Is this a spirit of ASEAN? End of the day SIN & MSIA are neighbours.
What spirit of ASEAN? Spirit of ASEAN you don't intrude into another country. China intrudes into Malaysia waters and islands in the South China Sea., and Malaysia accepts it. But that doesn't mean Malaysia can intrude into a neighbouring country. Indonesia could easily have blasted the intruder into the bottom of the sea.
@@westwoodly Get your fact right first before come to public...
@@abidinshaik1427 It's as straight as it can be. We don't know how to be crooked. That's why we never agree to a crooked bridge.
@@westwoodly Ayya... told you to get your fact right before come public... at first because of no agreement for a straight bridge option of crook bridge arrise.. nobody draw a crook bridge on day one... grow up la bro...
3:48 “it’s equivalent to half a US CENT... if the US still has cents (sense)” ... lol
This youngster forget his root. not only water Malaysia supply to Singapore but land also where he born.
Now it is different. Malaysia is getting water FROM Singapore. Stop dreaming and wake up.
@@thomastay1638 origin water still from malaysia..without malaysia what singapore can produce as water for sell to malaysia, from your recycle mess?
Shameless For that poor kids singapore for ask that question...🤣hahaha...go back home just play Mahjong...haha
Those were logical questions that Tun M did not answer properly.
Add this age, MM can still sit down quietly, listen and answer so clearly. Malulah that boy. Hehe
That kid just got his ass handed to him. What was he thinking when he thought of taking on a master politician who has had more years in power than the kid had in birthdays? Gotta love how Tun Mahathir was cool as a cucumber and easily turned the tables without flinching, and without giving any actual answers.
Statesman Tun has had a long and respected career at the national or international level, he saved our country from kleptocracy, he saved our country from bankruptcy...he's highly respected by all Malaysians who love this country !
What a bloody joke. Are you okay ?? What crack are you smoking ?
Tun terbaik... Singapore mmg sombong nk msmpus
Had a great exchange with Malaysian PM Tun Dr Mahathir at the Oxford Union, where I asked him about the ongoing maritime dispute between Singapore and Malaysia. Dr M responded that the 1962 Water Agreement is unfair to Malaysia.
During our exchange, I understood his argument to mean that it was unfair for Malaysia to sell untreated water to Singapore at 3 sen per 1,000 gallons but buy treated water from Singapore at $60 per 1,000 gallons.
Thinking that $60 per 1,000 gallons seemed strangely high, I subsequently double-checked this. It turns out that that Dr M was referring to the price at which Singapore's PUB sells water domestically (approximately RM 60 per 1,000 gallons).
Singapore sells treated water to Johor at 50 sen per 1,000 gallons. Dr Mahathir thinks this is unfair but I disagree. Given that it costs Singapore RM 2.40 to treat 1,000 gallons of water, Singapore subsidises the water by RM 1.90 per 1,000 gallons. Johor sells this treated water to Malaysians at RM 3.95 per 1,000 gallons - meaning Johor earns a profit of RM 3.45 per 1,000 gallons.
Dr M also noted that Singapore has bought water from Malaysia at a fixed price of 3 sen per 1,000 gallons since 1926, and that Singapore has stopped Malaysia from revising the price. This is also inaccurate. Singapore has purchased water at this price since 1962. Under the 1962 Water Agreement, Malaysia had the right to review the price in 1987 (when Dr M was PM). Malaysia chose not to do so.
Furthermore, as Singapore's Foreign Minister noted in Parliament earlier this week, Singapore is obliged to sell Malaysia 5 million gallons per day (gpd) of treated water but out of goodwill supplies 16 million gpd. Two weeks ago, at Johor’s request, Singapore further increased the supply of subsidised water to 22 million gpd. In 2018, also at Johor’s request, Singapore supplied more than the usual 16 million gpd for 20 days. All the additional treated water has been supplied to Johor at the
Correct. You go to Singapore and ask the direction please don't surprise if they ignore you. Arrogant and Kiasu.
@@fazilsmith ditto in johor-paris-bangkok-manila-istanbul... no different... u expect people 2 b yr. slave ?????
@@ifuknjk in fairness malaysia should increase water prices...singapore goverment earned billions more than malaysia...sorry to say but the singapore goverment are insanely greedy..
@grey turret
how much we earn what has it got to do with you?
u are the greedy one to ask for more money when price is fixed
the boy should know his argument already going down the drain when audience laughing at him.
Cause it's a Malaysian audience.
then why this kiasu boy there ? mocking ny international students! understand ?
The way Mahathir laugh at the end of the video 🤣
this is why company rather to take 'experienced' worker than 'good grades' worker.
Irrelevant stupidity
Very smart of mahathir to turn a topic on anti-singaporean measures; particularly on the recent maritime dispute to a several decade old agreement
the way of smart people thinking. he is my idol!
when the people who thinks he is smart enough meets with the wise man. he'll run as fast as he/she can before he/she gets more humiliated.
Can you imagine if he's still young, this people wont even say a word i bet
Ya loh. Nobody wants to be in prison lol
“Sepandai pandai tupai lompat akhirnya jatuh ke tanah juga”
dah dapat 3 sen per gallon ape lagi nak bising wahai budakk...
Sounding smart doesn’t mean you’re smart
Lel applies to malaysians in power too abang, lek
singaporean tu kiasu bro
Kiasu in their genes all want to win but non valid answer
From my perspective, I can see a smart Alec Oxford educated student trying to outstrip A old and experienced 2 times Malaysian president man but in all ways he unsuccessfully tried but nothing is viable. “Modesty helps one goes forward while arrogance and conceited will make one lag behind.” -Chairman Mao
This undergrad has the guts to ask a pointed question and the former PM just deflects with untruthful answers.A typical Malaysian leader not wanting to tell the truth, evading like a fox as what Chinese Malaysians says.
That young arrogance man is not trying to discuss. He already made up his mind. Pointless. And he was rude towards tun M also. I am sorry but i see most of the singaporean acting arrogantly towards malaysian. But they dont even realised all this time malaysia supply them water. Without water you cant even live. Be grateful
Rates Fail Reasonable Test. Wasted money study at Oxford boy.
It's so laughable that so many comments from Malaysians here blindly and delusionally trying to claim that Mahathir won against this Singaporean student, not knowing that he was actually school-ed and was completely forced into a corner by both reason and evidence; so much so that ALL he could only do was to keep harping on (which would be a flimsy argument in an international court by the way) the 3 cents thing, 3 cents here, 3 cents there. EVEN that argument was ALREADY clearly smacked down by the student's 3 rebuttals:
1. there's a legally binding agreement, lasting until 2060s, for raw water to be sold from Malaysia at that price. PERIOD. Black and white, YOU SIGNED IT under no coercion or duress.
2. you HAD the chance to revise it before! Not as if Singapore didn't give you the chance to revise the price. Again, YOU didn't make a fuss about it then and ultimately did not revise the price 100% WILLINGLY.
3. Singapore sells treated water at a huge discount to Johor, this is cost on our side as well - you think it doesn't take fuel, electricity, manpower and maintenance to treat water?
So there is no use coming to us now and keep saying that "it's unfair" when ALREADY there's firstly, a legally binding agreement (BOTH parties mutually agreed to), and secondly, a good will opportunity given to you to revise it and thirdly, a pretty good deal that indirectly makes up for the so-called "unfairness" (cost savings from discounted treated water that you receive VS. 3 cents raw water that you sell).
OOOOOO WAIT, are you able to understand any of the words above...? Oh right, you probably couldn't even get into a Malaysian University, let alone Oxford.
@@chengwailiau7203 it's more laughable when u wrote essays in a utube comment section which probably no one will read
@@rollinghippo2940 Still a good argument which proves the student was right.
@@lemon2524 if u really need to explain it that long then it means that u're probably in the wrong... still, good job with the cope haha
@@rollinghippo2940 That makes no sense and you are not even responding to the argument.
If you want to ask Tun Dr Mahathir any questions especially political ones, make sure you're fully prepared.
Dr Mahathir. A true statesman and a kind human being. Allowing a mediocre whimp to spar with him. Key word here is Allow
He's the type of guy, who thinks if you speak more you are smart
😂😂🤣
True but better than a centenarian that can't stop talking.
The real story is much more than that about water pricing. Malaysia supply not consistent and very dirty water in 1980s, Singapore asked Malaysia to clean up river & water bank. Malaysia refused unless Singapore pay higher price or come to Malaysia to repair and spent capex. Singapore had chosen the later spent billions. Long story short, many untold events
Sorry to say this student not even know the incident area was spore water or international water. You are not clever in all subject. So do your home work before u talk.
You can't even type in English properly. So please do not try to justify. Get the English correct first then type something that makes sense.
@adnan did you even do your homework first, even mahathir says the water is not malaysian!!
Dont copy your chinese friend homework okay
Hahaha true colours of sg.
Pointing on another angle, but cannot face the reality.
Listen to Idioteque- radiohead.
It may heal you guys some for weeks.
Try to Imagine How Mr Lee Kuan Yew React to this Boy…He Maybe put into Bankruptcy By Now and into prison…Mahathir Very Calm and Relax…He Will Always Be Malaysia GodFather…👍👍👍
Paying 3 cents since 1926 without any price revision is absurd.
now i totally understand the phrase orang yg dah mkan garam dlu -i don’t know what’s the exact quote but yeah, Tun M is really a leader with so many pengalaman,
This youngster try to screw T.M...but when T.M was Malaysia P M at that time...they not even born yet...they have no respect to the olds...l dare you to talk to ur P M in such a way....you got no b....lls.
The issue for Spore was not the price of water. It knows it's too cheap. Singapore was prepared to accept a price revision in the past but it wanted concessions on other areas from Malaysia . This Malaysia could not accept and rightly so. They see it as good negotiating strategy but Malaysia see it as ungrateful and stuck up neighbour.
This guy is a product of Oxford Univ..? Its a joke!
Walauwei this boy. This is freaking embarrassing! I'm singaporean and I agree with Dr. Tun. I have so much respect from him. Salam neighbour may allah continue to shower u and ur country with barakah and good health and peace. Ameen
The boy may have not phrased it properly but the issues he raised were valid.
THEAN IN THE AUDIENCE STILL REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT THE MB WAS IN (INTERNATIONAL) WATERS..
Tun Dr Mahathir = Sejahtera Malaysia
This is simply intelligence vs wisdom
Did anyone catch that quick witted joke
"...it's 3 sen, half a US cent...if the US still has sense."
lol love the subtle humor
Nice try dude. Thank you, next.
Cringe
We had one dude who is replying almost of the comments.
Tun love to state a fact . That's why he so calm . He said the truth and it's deep . That's why sometime Tun is very sacarstic and it's always deep . Hahahaha .
aku syg tanah airku terima kasih allah kerana memberikn kami perdana menteri yg terbaik lagi bijak sana
Macam mana sekarang???!!!! Bijak lagi tak??? Ke dah kena tendang?????
Plan to reschedule the water price and negotiation always fail. Then after the water agreement end. Malaysian authority in future must calculate all the cost they had lost for years and the new agreement must be really totally severely acutely on the Malaysian side. Just 'hati kering' sell untreatment water USD10 PER LITER to Singapore. Agreement revise every 5 years. Malaysia no need to buy treatment water from singapore again. Because here we already have good water treatment facilities a long time ago. We actually dont need at all these kind treatment water for this bad unfair unfavorable 1926 water agreement.
If in the future, Singapore govt feel it is unfair for this new agreement, dont say we are cruel, unmankind, unacceptable or any labels that you like to label us...think it now before its to late. Be wise, dont delay, dont play play, revise the agreement asap because malaysian govt is not so cruel (now). If you dont like the future agreement gonna be like, you can plan to buy it somewhere else i.e from Batam, Indonesia. Like Tun M said before.. "I dont care! "
Tepuk!👏
Anyway, how did the boy get into oxford? Look like he want to be a 'hero' for Singaporean...confront but at last been laugh because he miss the point...tak boleh terima jawapan terus nk passing microphone.. lastly he tarnish Singaporean image in the Oxford Hall. Come on lah..pergi belajar and dont play play in oxford maa. Do some good reasearch and show lah the best quality standard of Singaporean youth citizen. Siapa la pilih dia wakili student singapura. Look at SS (syed sadiq) being good attitude facing the confront during bbc hardtalk. He was agree and disagree to the presenter nicely. Haa macam tu lah..
tepuk lagi!👏
A young boy who probably read a lot and thought he was smart versus one of the most knowledgeable and experience politician/leader on the planet.
When you'r loosing a debate , give others chances....
Thats smart also 🤣
Kiasu no shame lah
@@muhammada2445 That's not true.
👍👍👍 Tun 😘
Well said Tun. These youngsters did not realise that Singapore cannot survive without Abang Malaysia. Try this for a moment...blow up the Causeway and see how long Singapore can endure and last. Enough is enough of this anti-Malaysia feelings. Learn to count your blessings and not with your proud mouth blastings. A new generation of 'young farts'. "We eat more salt than they eat rice"
There is a reason why Singapore Dollar is now 3.3 MYR and its not Mahathir that is suffering because they are billionaires, its the Malaysians who are suffering because Malaysians are lagging behind even by Indonesian and Vietnam standards
I like how most people in the comments are condemning and enlarging small mistakes made by the Oxford student from Singapore , you won't understand the pressure and circumstances while standing in front of a crowd and speaking to Dr. Mahathir like the student did. 98% of you probably wouldn't even have the courage or opportunity to do so.
Stop praising the 97 year old coward.
True especially when he was mocked by the Malaysian crowd which was rude.
*says something irrelevant*
"But i would pass the mic to someone else instead"
Hahahahaha boii got slapped back with his words hahahhha
Not really he did that cause the conversation was going no where and in a clearly Malaysian audience it was more daunting.
What is he talking? Agreement must be honored , he does not understand this.
Well drafted, concise, memorized questions that somehow show stupidity and laughable arrogance that has no weight. Always good at presentation with little substance.