Jaguar XE SV Project 8 - Is This Really a Four Door 911 GT3 Rival?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2022
- Today, courtesy of good guy and Jaguar fan David I get to drive the wild and wacky Project 8. Based on the XE, Jaguar's smallest car, the Project 8 takes the 5L Supercharged V8 from the F-Type SVR, turns it up to 11 and shoehorns it into a car never designed for it. Just how good is this limited run special?
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I’ve had mine for over a year… put over 3k miles on it, most of them rally miles. It’s a beast. As quick as anything else on the rally and I can carry all their luggage too. If the real purpose of a car is to transport people and their belongings from point A to point B, nothing does that better than the P8.
What do you mean by rally miles? An actual rally? Fair play!
@@oaga71625e fast and curvy and over 600 miles on a weekend with a bunch of other cars. We have 3300 miles on it and I’m about to have to replace the Cup2 tires.. we reviewed it on our channel about a year ago.
@@oaga71625e Rally as in a "bike rally" I think. Basically an organised excuse to drive around a bunch and get together for a beer and a chat after.
@@yinyangsaladgang8789 I see, thanks 👍
Over a year and 3k miles? Rookie numbers, I used to do 3k miles in 3 weeks 😂
Those Jag V8s make a dirty, dirty noise... 🤤
How they get that past the authorities for noise regs is a mystery.
It's a jaaag they don't need to worry about that legislation 👍🏿
i think they get to pass under a less strict noise reg due to the lack of sales
I wish car manufacturers would take inspiration from the front end of this car I love the vents that are a bunch of holes
The rear of the McLaren 765LT has something similar.
@@johnmitchell2269 yea but it looks coolest on the front
Yeah rather than a giant fake plastic grill that most of its filled in.
The VW ID buzz has a similar thing
Ferrari Roma haha!
I’m a huge fan of the ajv8. Sold my f-type r and ordered a new f-pace svr for new dad duties. The reason it’s lhd is because of where jag mount the front diff. Yes the 6 and 8 short blocks are same size, that was a fun debate on the jag forums many moons ago, but you cannot buy a rhd v6 awd either. I only wish jag had waited for the xe facelift before doing this special edition, then I’d be buying one out of EU. The recent facelifts of xe and xf, but especially f-pace, catapult this brand into a different league now and a true, and in some ways better, rival to the ubiquitous Germans. Also you actually want a torque converter auto in a positive displacement supercharged engine due to how the engine makes power off idle, dct’s by design are more laggy off the line and best suited to NA or turbo engines
As someone who is (potentially) looking at a used XE S (with the V6) I've noticed there is one with awd currently on autotrader. Are you saying that is a listing mistake by the dealer? I did wonder, as I've been browsing for a while and never noticed any others with awd!
How is the f-pace SVR like? I've got an RSQ3 right now but was looking at it as a potential replacement in a year of twos time. There's also the macan GTS which looks interesting.
First world problems 🤣
@@stuco81 yes they are rare but available...
@@Harpreet06 i am still waiting for it, it got built and awaiting shipment. I have an 2020 RS3 atm that i have tuned but not even the 5 cylinder with the opf removed sounds as good as the AJV8
Thank you for this review! I agree with almost what you said. I am not a JAG man In general, but I do own a project eight that I bought in July 2021. In fact, I bought the last brand-new, previously untitled Project 8 in the United States that were still in a dealers showroom. Overall, the car is amazing. What makes an amazing is driving dynamics, suspension set up the amazing exterior styling. As far as your initial question regarding how it compares to a GT3, I guess it depends on which specifications and generation of GT3 you are talking about. To me, it is definitely better than the 991.1 GT3. It is not as good as the 991.2 GT3RS what is it is definitely a lot more special as far as the rarity of the car. I own a 991.2 GT3 touring and I believe there’s a two cars of probably on par overall and, the Jaguars definitely a lot more stable at higher speeds because my Porsche does not have a wing.. On track, I can tell you that last fall, we took my jaguar in by GT4 PDK car to ROEBLING Rd., Raceway in Georgia and every single one of us was faster in the Jaguar than the GT4 on Michelin CUP2 tires. finally, I recently became a proud owner of a brand new M5CS. BMW is clearly faster, especially at higher speeds. However, due to its smaller size, more aggressive and more meaty tire sizes in the back and a more track suspension set up, jaguar definitely feels more nimble and more special. Jaguar is definitely the best sedan I’ve ever owned and in my little collection, it falls behind only the magnificent 997.2 GT3RS, the Scuderia, and the STO. I would rate just above the 991.2 GT3 TOURING and my Heritage GT350R.
Great write up Tim and impressive collection (of what you shared). I’m thrilled to also own a Scud and see you list as one of your top 3 favorites.
You just casually described what a dream garage of mine would absolutely look like lol
@@comeberza I am very blessed indeed. For a kid that started with absolutely nothing, I am living a (car) dream.
Thanks for this comment and comparisons.
What’s it like getting over speed humps and up and down ramps? That front splitter with no front axle lift looks challenging at times!
I am the guy that invited David out in my 7 & 8, which then made him empty his car fund. I can’t understand why people get so hung up about sitting on left, I soon adjust my driving style to suit and just get on with it, if I could use it as my daily drive I would, but it’s not so good on a biulding site with the carbon bits. I have taken my 8 on to the track and it certainly holds its own and in the hands of a professional driver it’s something to behold. But having spent the weekend getting the car ready to drive off to Italy, I know I will get a really smug feeling when I exit the shuttle and the signs say remember to drive on the left!
Same. Lived in Germany for 8 years and now much prefer driving from the left hand seat. If you fly, this is the PIC seat as well, so the right hand seat really is the second best spot. MY problem with the 8 and 9 is that they’re automatics - sitting on the left doesn’t bother me at all. In the 8’s case, for that engine, chassis and those looks, I could probably maybe possibly in a weak moment even accept the gearbox.
Cricky what a pair of back to back Jag days. Cannot get any more raw Jag that this pair.
Oh yuppppp I’ve never seen a review for this car this is the earliest I’ve ever been I’m so excited
Check out Harry's garage
The only reason I know so much about this car is by watching Henry Metcalfe drive his on youtube.
For a Supercharged V8 saloon with AWD, and heavy duty transmission and large brakes etc 1725 kg is an acceptable weight. Remember it wasn't build as a race car but rather a converted production car. Also you'll find that a Supercharged XJR is 200 kg heavier, and it's only RWD.
one off the best sounding car I've ever heard 🤤🤤🤤
The comment about the rocks from the rear wheels.. very accurate… everyone makes my drive in the back of the rally. Broke a brand new GT3 windshield on our 1st rally.
Yep they're lethal apparently!
The LHD Problem isnt really a problem. I have driven my LHD BMW for 6 years in the UK. After a while you can even use it to your advantage. The Meridian is amazing in the P8. It is bespoke to the P8, much better than in the Fpace SVR for instance. These are the two points I have to disagree but the rest of this video is great! Well done! Love my P8 and enjoy it every time i drive. Not many cars around that make you smile as much as this one
If “Mad Max” was made today this would be his interceptor of choice, if it isn’t I sure should be!
"It sounds dirty" - just the way I like it!
Best review i’ve seen in ages covered all the things we actually want to know! Keep up the great work james!
Top stuff again James. I agree with you, had Jaguar been bold enough and sunk the money into making a RHD version, they would have sold double what they did without much worry. I've always been gobsmacked my Harry M's lovely purple example, and I so fervently wish more examples of this jaw dropping, horizon assaulting machine had made it to market. One of those genuinely seminal moments in Jaguar's production life.
Love the way the scenery blurrs when you push the loud pedal. Awesome. 😄👍
You may have right here the best review of the Jaguar Project 8. Many did. A few with success! Congrats you did a good understanding of the car and the why(s).
The Track Pack version of XE SV P8 got manual bucket seats, I think similar to the ones on McLaren P1 and 675LT.
And boy do I love the Project 8. Looks amazing in any colour. Especially purple ones like St. Metcalfe's car.
I saw one of these on the A3, just before the M25. It was a grey one in what I can only imagine was the touring trim due to a lack of a wing.
Thanks James, I have watched Harry's project 8 drives and enjoyed them. And Now James, you have put the icing on the cake with a very different video that I also enjoyed. Sadly the project cars never made it to Australia. I cannot imagine the reaction the regulators here would have had. It seems every time I watch another of your videos it ends in envy.
Love this car. So much great engineering, looks amazing, goes like a bat outta hell.
The soundtrack ifs so raw, pure music 🔥👍
Great review James! Particularly exciting for me as I pick mine up next week !😃
I hope it meets expectations!
I hope that Jag is not forgotten... great video as always!
Developed in consultation with and endorsed by Harry Metcalfe... Praise doesn't come much higher than that.
Phenomenal review mate. Absolute belter
I love this Jag seeing the video at shelsley walsh I just fell in love with the noise it makes. Loved it ever since such a shame they didn't do rhd.
Amazing car. Thanks for showing.
I never found the stickers out of place, the wider tracks and the face looks so modern, menacing and elegant. Harry's specification was stunning with the stickers and the golden wheels but the discrete sleeper look is also very cool. This blue one is a riot too. I'd love to see you driving an m5cs or that Giulia GTA
I absolutely love this thing. I already like the look of the XE, but this is just spectular. And then there is the noise...
Nice Jay- Great review as usual. One of the few cars where I can appreciate the millennial mic mount near the exhaust. I can appreciate the frustration with LHD on a unique Jag. Waiting for a review of the Lister XJ-S
Very cool car. Nice video. Keep up the good work.
Just had one of these come to us for a little bit, absolutely filthy
JLR products sound amazing! 👌🏽
😍 oh wow! If I was ever to get a saloon again, this would be high on my list!
I saw you in someone else's video on a track day, that has crossed over to your channel, you get it now 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I appreciate your effort to understand what an RT Car is to Track lovers, cause you use to drive me crazy with you expectations that had nothing to do with an RT Cars purpose, especially the classics you would get your hands on 👍🏾
Me on a track day? An unusual sight!
Jay is simply the best on youtube hands down
This is not the first time I've been disappointed to live in the US; the project 8 and the GR Yaris are cars I will never be able to own.
Project 8s are available in the US
Thank you. What an amazing car...
Wonderful, you defiantly need one
Crazy car sick review not many around so I like the uniqueness
This week’s content. 😘❤️
Never been a Jag man, but the V8s just sound epic!
It's so funny you mentioned the indicators I was thinking the same before you mentioned it 🤣 lights especially headlights are key to a car purchase.
I think these are bad-ass🔥 and IMO the values of super sedans will sky rocket as companies like Jag insist on going electric and because they will never ever have a soul, THESE type vehicles will be in demand❗️
Another cracking review. Vehicle weights are such a minefield, mentioning no names (*cough* Guilia QV *cough*…). It’d be a great review feature to actually weigh the machine as it is on the road. Nobody seems to do it, other than Harry’s garage sometimes. I’m sure you’ve thought about it, but it’d a much appreciated feature, at least by me. Either way, keep up the good work!
I love p8 XE, looks gorgeous.
I personally love the interior of the XER. It feels like it hugs you in the drivers seat.
That car still looks amazing today!
Sounds nuts
Excellent presentation and full of interesting and many unknown facts. Not even keen on this car but was gripped watching the entire show. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@JayEmmOnCars Your presentations are excellent and you stay on topic and rarely, if ever, talk about yourself (unlike others) . Thoroughly enjoy you stay on point and spill the beans good and bad on whatever you are driving. Brilliant. Oh, and love the shirts! Your videos are an excellent point of reference. Cannot praise you more highly than that.
Not sure about the cat stickers. Looks a little too “tuner” for me.
Beast of a car though. I suspect it is left hand drive simply because as you said with the packaging they probably had to choose one side or the other. Something like 165/195 countries in the world drive on the right side of the road (left hand drive car). Simple math which side you choose.
Brilliant car 🚗🚙🚘👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Stunning car.
You are right, as a qualified IAM Roadsmart Masters with Distinction, I would position the car using SVS priority:
1) Safety
2) Visibility
3) Stability
So, basically, on an open left hand bend with no traffic behind, I would be towards the right hand side of the road. But on a blind left hand bend, I would be just left of the centre line.
Driving a left hand drive car in the UK would definitely be a positioning challenge. On the other hand, it would make it a doddle to do a visual check down the nearside of the car in front. Always handy when looking for an overtake immediately after the aforementioned left hand bend! 😁
I really like a lot of Jags, the ones the go PURRRR!.
I'm loving the ones that go GRRRRRRRRR!
Had wet laps with @BTGdale on the Nurburgring. Amazing experience. Fantastic car. The sound it made was epic. Plus Dale is an awesome driver!
Super review. Cost/value is important but above all these cars should be driven and enjoyed.
That thing sounds like a 44 gallon drum of nitrous oxide being chucked down a metal staircase. Absolutely NUTS!! Love it.
I like it! Furthermore, the offered advice to not follow one too closely in traffic - if you want to preserve your windscreen - is valuable information.
Your right, they missed a complete trick not making it RHD. Insanity. In comparison to the Alfa Giulia AM Price it’s a bargain. Would love something like this as a daily haha and I think a lot more people would have bought it like you say if it was RHD, especially now on used market at 90k
Hi Jay, Think Harry said that it was down to the front axle for the four wheel drive, for the left hand drive issue..
Great vid as always..
Amazing car. The supercharged V6 will suit me just fine. This one is a winged unicorn. Only in my dreams...
I saw one of those at Blyton Park last year.
When I win the lottery I'm having one of these, a Project 7, an F Pace SVR, an XJ autobiography, an E type and an XJ220 (I've already completed XKR and XE)
Same!
Just bought an F Type R to replace my 600LT I still have , of course they are very different cars , however loving the F Type R , the design the noise , how it drives etc , obviously not as quick , but it’s a great sport GT, that for me is far better than the DB11 I once had, big disappointment 👍
I bought a 720s Spider to replace my F-Type R, and as much as I love the McLaren, I do miss the Jag. As you say, it's a great sports GT car, and such a wonderful engine.
@@willmjt2678 yeah good to hear u feel the same , I had a few problems with my McLaren , the car was off the road quite a but, but used it for what it was designed for, Nordschleife, Silverstone, Donnington etc it was brilliant , hope u r enjoying the 720S 👍
@@brentpowell7889 Fortunately I've had no issues whatsoever with the 720; luck of the draw I guess! Have fun with the F-Type 👍
You lucky, lucky man James. Driving 'proper' Jags must have been a great experience. I can't see any future videos being so good once they become a purely electric company. Or will they go bust before then?
there is just something about the sound of those Jag V8 engines, their American counterparts sound big and brash and showy. The Jags just sound pure evil, or kinda like the god of thunder just stubbed their toe, it's brilliant!
Love this car. Too bad the one for sale here in the states is listed at $159,000. Worth it I’m sure.
Hello Jay, and everybody else
@Jay. I love the Project 8, but also love the Project 7. I each please. LOL I was wondering about the Special Race/Track P8 that did not sell at the Silverstone Auction. Do you have any links so I can see what it looks like? David's blue looks amazing, but I also really like Harry's eggplant purple :)
i own this vehicle in GTA V (ocelot jugular) lol . Sick car and sounds sweet af 🤩
I like it and with the splendid bonus of a roof, I see no reason not to buy one, although paying for it is a separate issue but let's not dwell on the mundane.
I actually laughed and nodded like some dog at your comment regarding the bulbs. On your opening shot you could see them flash and I thought “ £150k motor and cheap as chips bulbs that no doubt you’ll have to remove the entire front end to gain access to replace them” it’s not just you and it’s not a silly point. Car folk notice these things.
Ah, beach driving promo videos. There's really nothing better for a car chassis than salty sea water and sand… 🤦♂ Sarcasm aside, love your videos Jay.
Thanks for a great review, there is not much good video about on the Project 8 and it has obviously attracted quite a few owners! I bought mine earlier in the year and I love it. It replaced a Giulia Qadrifoglio and it is a much better developed car. Day one with the Giulia and I was already writing a list of things that needed improving (exhaust, crap Pirelli track tyres, fix the brake feel problem etc.) My list for the Project 8 is precisely zero. Because it is not turbocharged the engine has a level of get up and go at any speed that the Ferrari derived engine in the Giulia simply can't match. It also handles better and gives you a greater level of confidence on road because of the 4WD and bespoke suspension. Most cars have now done somewhere around 2,000 to 4,000 miles at the moment and are selling at auction for around £100K or £115-£120K through a dealer. Future values? Just remember Jaguar built 75 D Types in total in the 1950s and had a hard time selling all of them! The Project 8 is truly one of the last great V8s and I plan to keep mine for a long time.
I can already imagine the conversation when the person behind confronts a Project 8 owner for firing stones at their windscreen...
"I'm sorry I broke your windscreen... in my Jaaaag."
Enjoying this video!! One question though: 13:01-13:11 is someone flashing his light trying to overtake you? 😉
15:05. As Dutch guy going to the UK regularly, I find the possibility to position the car as much as possible to the left perfect, just as close as possibly next to the hedges.Overtaking is something else, and in small streets it's not ideal..
Cool car and video, still to bad that guy who should darken the rear lights was on vacation in Hull.
Hellcat springs to mind
Three tremendous Jaaaaaaaaaaaagggg films. Thank you James.
Great review mate! almost bought one of these 2 years ago when these babies were between $120-135K now they are looking like they are slowly declining. Aside from that.......Jay, When you coming back to the states? We still have to Collab at some of the tracks here...Limerock, Watkins Glen etc.. speak soon.
Love it
Might have sold better if jaguar had advertised it more! I certainly never knew of its existence! Mind you , at that price I don’t think it matters much for most people anyway ! However, looking at the car it seems too much of a thing to live with on a daily basis, over the top brutal and hard to manurer into parking spaces Also, If you are just considering it for track day events, well, good luck with that at that weight!
Another fine Jaguar that's sorely underrated by the public and motoring media alike. If this had a German or Italian badge they'd all be singing from the rooftops about it! There's no doubt Jaguar have had their missteps along the way, but I can't help but feel they never really get a fair crack of the whip. The plus side, if resale values do plummet I may be able to pick one up in a year or two!
NOT SURE WHY BUT I GOT A HEAVY R34 SKYLINE VIBE FROM THE THUMBNAIL PHOTO LOL ...JUST A BRITISH 4 DOOR VERSION WITH PROPER V8 SUPERCHARGED AWD 😊 NEVER BEEN A JAG FAN AND ALWAYS THOUGHT OF THEM AS OVER-RATED, UNRELIABLE AND LACKING THE FEEL OF THE OLD JAGS..THIS CAR HOWEVER ALONGSIDE SOME OF THE NEWER(PAST 10-15 YRS) V8 OFFERINGS SEEM HIGHLY DESIRABLE !
GODSPEED OLE' BOY !
I think there were 2 other reasons it didn't sell. There was never an M3/RS4/C63 version of the XE so this car represented a huge leap over the standard car which a lot of people found difficult to get their heads around. Would you buy a £150k version of a Vauxhall Insignia no matter how good it was ? And the decals were awful. I know they were a no cost delete option, but gave the whole project a Max Power whiff about it.... Not sure it would sell even now. Certainly current second hand values are nothing special. When a car is perceived as "failing" it takes a long time for market sentiment to change usually. Look how long it took for XJ220 values to rise.....
Also you could have gotten an XF-R (same V8 with 50-70hp less) in a bigger sedan for half the price than this. And LHD/RHD version and w/e options you want. So basicly only a Jag die hard fan would have ever purchased this and with no RHD...almost no british one wanted it.
I agree Jay I wouldn’t buy one because it’s left hand drive. It comes across to me as complacency and I don’t want anything about my car to be complacent from the manufacturer. Gives me that same vibes as when VAG cars have other VAG group logos on them. Or the supra with bmw everything.
There were 220 sold… 19 in the USA
Off the back of you mentioning it. For advanced driving educational information from an ex-police trainer, I'd recommend Reg Local here on TH-cam. IAM and RoSPA courses are available for official more personalised training for those in the UK, and passing gains the official recognition from some insurance companies that you drive to a higher standard and therefore safer than most drivers (cheaper insurance).
Hi and I think your 100% correct Jag should have made them in right hand drive too and I don’t believe that story too that the V8 wouldn’t fit in a right hand drive either
This is imo the best sport sedan ever, Supercharged V8 and AWD 200mph, comfy enough what more do you want ?
RHD
@@RichardEnglander yeah no, i live on the LHD side
M5 CS is better in every way, except the noise.
@@TML34 looks really lame by comparison
Something easier on petrol. The cost is skyrocketing to 2 pounds a litre for the good stuff.
If I was regularly driving in Europe... but here the LHD would drive me nuts, be a nightmare in the Lake District
I love these, do I love it more than the GTA M tho? Idk. My Giulia TI is the best handling modern car I’ve driven. I pulled 1.02 G while whipping it into my street while coming home today. And I only have it on PS 4 AS.
Wonderful car, great video.
I put 100k+ miles on a 325iX LHD, you get used to it, has its advantages?
Perhaps you should buy one indeed and..... use it for trips to the continent.
Ps love your channel
I was surprised by your comment on the brakes feeling like they didn't want to stop the car. Mine has the most sensitive break pedal I've ever used and they are crazy powerful. Maybe you meant they just feel a bit disconnected(?) but I almost find them to be too sensitive.
It's just at lower speeds, they don't talk to you enough - so it's hard to be smooth with them at junctions
Harry took his to 200mph
What about a review of the new RS3?