What type of keyboard sustain pedal should I buy? Why is my keyboard pedal not working/backwards?
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Oh thank goodness the M-audio SP- 2, was listed as a cheap alternative. It just came in today! I want to teach myself how to play the keyboard. A music teacher told me I have no rhythm over 20 years ago and I took as an insult stuck me all this time. A friend was kind enough to gift her son's old Yamaha keyboard and I'm determined to learn. I feel I need a creative outlet other than gaming. Looking forward to watching your videos.
Does anyone know? I connected the piano pedal to the piano, but it doesn't work and the keyboard doesn't make any music sound. When I plug in the piano pedal, no sound appears.
Your video was absolutely useful. I am a guitarist and I recently bought a Roland FA 06 keyboard, at the time of purchase on the network I also ordered an SP-2 pedal that worked in reverse and I had not noticed the switch located underneath, after seeing the your video, I found out where it was and solved the problem, THANK YOU. 😉 👍
thanks for this. i found a free keyboard today and decided to snag the cords and accessories i'll need to learn how to use it. this was a really good intro to pedals.
It was helpful! Turns out the MIDI controller (not keyboard, in my case) I'm looking at, does indeed have the capacity to reverse the polarity, if needed. Without this video, I wouldn't have looked it up in the manual.
Thanks very helpful. The polarity was reversed on my pedal and thanks to your advise I looked on the bottom of the pedal and saw the switch. Problem solved. Thanks again !
Glad it helped!
Thanks for this video! I used to play grand piano a long time ago. Recently started playing electric piano and got a sustain pedal as a gift from family. I thought it was broken when I tried the first time! as it worked completely the opposite way compared to the pedal for a grand piano! So much to learn transferring to digital!
Than the polairity of that pedal is reversed. Than it does that. I would advise to buy a other pedal.. Because know you learning it the wrong way
Don't necessarily buy another one. The pedal is likely to have a switch and if it doesn't, it's likely switchable by the keyboard/controller, or it could just be a case of holding the pedal down while starting the keyboard/controller.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
On my Yamaha P45, the polarity will reverse if you hold down any key when powering on the piano. Then simply by restarting it without pressing any key will put the polarity back to normal.
I don’t get it. The same problem is happening with me. Can you reword it?
@@basantabdulrahman9346 basically, to reverse the polarity, you have to hold down a piano key while turning it on
Thank you so much! I was about to buu a new one since mine was reversed bit it turned out I had a switch under my pedal and it fixed the problem.
The best explanation on TH-cam, thanks a lot
Highly informative. Thank you!
I bought the M Audio SP2, it's great!
I have a parquet floor and it doesn't slip a bit
1:53 Which actually does make a lot of sense, seeing that a real piano without the dampening layer and mechanism, would play all the strings in sustain and *with* the dampening layer and mechanism, it would be considered to be played in "natural mode", so a "normal" pedal is actually in reverse.
Thank you very much that helped a lot !!
thank you so much I didn't even know that mine had that switch on the bottom ♥️♥️🙌🏾♥️
0:58, it depends on preference. I have one that looks like this and the other one you were talking about and I prefer this one.
Why do you prefer this one?
Make sure you also get one that's continuous. That way, it won't immediately cut off the sound when you take your foot off. The continuous ones slowly dampen the sound (like a piano slowly applying felt to the string)
You can also look in the keyboard owner's manual (available online) to see how to reverse polarity. Without using the reverse polarity switch, (assuming it has one - the premiere Yamaha SP4, for example, has no such switch). With some keyboards you simply power it on with the pedal attached, and the KB detects the pedal and sets polarity - Williams for ex. On others, you press a certain key at power on to reverse polarity, such as with Casio.
Good tip!
I didn't realise until now that the keyboard could switch the polarity! I had a Roland pedal which I sold with my Roland keyboard, but I had tried the pedal on my Yamaha keyboard and it didn't work. I assumed this was because it had one extra signal input (two black stripes on the plug instead of one), but just realised if I plug my working Yamaha pedal in and hold the pedal down while powering the piano up, it reverses polarity! And yes, it's one of those awful little rectangles that seems designed to run away from your foot no matter how you secure it in place. I loved that rubber mat that swung out from the Roland pedal, great feature.
So here's something i found out about my 1997 Yamaha when i was playing around with the "polarity" switch on my BOSS pedal - the keyboard actually works with either "polarity" pedal, but the pedal needs to be connected before you power it on. It will just read the position of the switch at that moment when you power it on and assume that that's the released state, and the opposite is the engaged state. You can just try that with your keyboard whichever one you have by pressing down the pedal when you power it on and seeing whether it starts behaving the opposite.
"Polarity" is btw a misnomer, as the pedal has no positive/negative, just whether it allows the current to flow or not, so it's the really the switch type, NC (normally closed) vs NO (normally open). But as it often happens with misnomers, they tend to stick around.
Great Advice. This solved my problem
Great!
I rewired the M-Audio SP-2 sustain pedal to a G-Force Steering Wheel button to use as a handbrake and it works.
thanks for the video!
I had some difficulty finding info on which sustain pedal to purchase for my Arturia KeyLab 49 MKII. Finally settled on the Roland DP-10 after contacting Sweetwater. They assured me that it would be compatible and indeed it was. The one thing I was told by the sales rep was to plug in the sustain pedal to the KeyLab before powering it on. Works like a charm. No switching of polarities is necessary. The DP-10 is extremely durable and well made. It is definitely not a flimsy or cheaply made pedal. It’s a high quality piece of gear. It doesn’t slip when used on hardwood floors. Highly recommended!
❤ Thank you 🙏 it was a helpful comment
@@BenvelMusic You’re most welcome. I’m happy to hear that it helped.🙂🤙
Same exact situation 😅 I use it for my 88keylab and the 49MKll but I noticed a difference of how my 49 receives the DP. On the JunoX.... absolutely astounding just ridiculous beauty
I have an M-Audio SP2 and a Roland DP-10 (that as being part of a Roland PF-90). I've got a Roland A-88 MK2 then I thought I will use M-Audio SP2, while using Pianoteq software piano. It doesn't work with SP2. When the polarity is correct, seems to work in the correct direction, but as I press, doesn't keep in sustain, in a short moment falls back the signal and the software it shows that visually also. When I plug in the DP-10 in continuous mode, I see in the software that I can control gradually how much is pressed and it works. DP-10 also works in pure switch mode. I measured the impedances between the wires of the pedals. SP2 is just a switch, with on state of cca 80 Ohm. Roland DP-10 beside that has 3 pole connector rather than 2, has totally different impedance ranges and it also changes depending on the mode. At one point I have to purchase a Roland pedal. Since in the home we already have a DP-10 with the PF-90, perhaps it makes sense to have the 3 pedal version, to let us more possibilities.
Thanks for helping some guy in Alberta!!
Hey buddy I just got a Casio Privia and it also has a port for something called EXPRESSION pedal.
Would love ur insights on that.
I purchased the Roland DP-10 for my eletric piano Casio CDP-120, but unfortunately it works backwards... I found this video extremely helpful, although I would have appreciated a suggestion of an alternative to the Roland DP-10, with the same rubber mat, which is what made me buy the DP-10 in the first place :'D.
Thanks I also have some (how to play easy piano songs) it's actually easy and I play it slow so make sure to check it out for people who just started
I was stuck with my pedal. Your video helped me. Thanks :)
Great information. I have a Yamaha keyboard. The sustain pedal works for about half a minute after powering on the keyboard, then it stops. Not sure if it's the pedal or the keyboard 🤔. Any thoughts?
I can change the polarity of the DP 10 pedal on Pianoteq pedal settings. Maybe it will be useful to others too who need.
What's a good triple pedal that will work with yamaha dgx 505 and is a single 1.4" jack
Very informative video!!
I have a silly question, but I want to make sure...Do you know if damper pedals can function as on/off switches?
I mean, if the pedal is held down the whole time...do the notes still sustain?
Yes it basically is an on off switch sending a signal to the keyboard. It’s the keyboard that sustains the notes not the pedal. As long as you’re holding down the pedal it will sustain yes. Piano sounds eventually die out anyway though but other kinds of sounds maybe go on forever
Hi...Great video..! I have a question, i have an M-Audio 88 keyboard and i use it with Logic pro x....it works perfect. Last weekend i bought an M-Audio SP-2 pedal and when i plug it on the keyboard i can play and the pedal works but if i stops playing for a while..a really short while, the keyboard disconnects from logic pro so i have to turn it off and on again then it works again....but if stops playing again disconnects....can someone sendme some tip or solution or something ? thanks in advance.
I'm looking at getting a arturia minilab mkii. Can you tell me if the cherub wtb004 or the other cherub that looks like a real piano sustain pedal will work with the arturia?
I have a switchable-polarity pedal similar to the M-Audio one you recommended. It has a jack connector but my piano (Roland RP701) has a pin connector. How can I connect my pedal? Because the RP701's pedal doesn't sustain notes long enough. RP501R didn't have that problem. Thanks in advance for your advice.
I bought myself the m-audio sp-2. It works fine with my roland: GO Piano but as soon as i record on it, the recording doesn't seem to acknowledge my sustain pedal. Do i have a wrong sustain pedal or something?
Thank you!!!
No problem
Love your videos, thank you!very helpful. Quick question-I’m also using dp-10 pedal with my electro 6d73. Should the switch be set to continuous ?
I am wondering if dp-10 works with Nord Piano 5? Is it reversed or function normal on your 6D73?
@@kennethHuo thx -which pedal do you recommend I get for the electro 6d73?
As a beginner moving fast, I do find the switch pedal that came with my Dp120 annoying as it's either on or BANG off so I just leave the sustain on and yes I know it's stretches the notes a bit long..er, but it's better than listening to the notes cut off as soon as you release the keys. I will look into getting a foot pedal when I upgrade, hopefully soon.
Thank you for the breakdown! I liked that last one you said you used. I just have to figure out if my ancient keyboard supports it.
Hopefully!
Is a pedal with half pedal function the best kind of pedal you can get?
I have a universal pedal but it's not working for my e-media keyboard I've done everything I know to do I don't know which polarity it should be on I can switch it back and forth and either one works do I need to just get a different foot pedal
the. Yamaha FC5 sustain pedal works backwards on mu Yamaha 260 and I don't know how. to fix it. Any help would be appreciated,
Hey thanks for the video. My sustain pedal in midi keyboard operates with a binary logic (on/off) without any interval sensitivity. When I press the pedal the midi value comes only as 127 (the maximum level). Normally when i play the piano i can easily fade out the sound by slowly releasing the pedal, but in midi keyboard i always find myself editing the values in DAW. Is this normal for the midi keyboard? Is there any other type of pedal to generate interval values depending on the pressing intensity?
A lot of pedals are just essentially an on off switch. Sounds like you need a pedal capable of 'half pedalling'. The Roland DP-10 for example is capable of half pedalling but only with keyboards that can do it. I'm honestly not sure about use with a DAW though i'm afraid. Perhaps searching for half pedalling with midi in your specific DAW may help your find the answer. Good luck!
@@PianoFromScratch I use Ableton with Novation sl mk2. I'm not sure whether these are compatible with half pedalling but I'm relieved to read that it's a usual issue for midi users :) Thanks for your explanation!
What pedal can i use for a Davis D-198? I've been searching and haven't found any answer.
I have the DP10 too but the half damper function does not work for Nord (again - lack of standards). I'm getting the Kawai F10H which is equivalent to the Nord Pedal 2.
I have a Casio CTK 573. Which pedal would best fit for it?
Hi, recently I am looking at some continuous sustain pedal. I know Korg DD18, roland dp-10 and yamaha fc3a pedal which support half pedal. But would you please tell me does all of them can send cc from 0-127？ That means I would reach any number from 0-127 depending on the pressure I am applying. I am not sure if the “half-pedaling” means it is divided into two parts or multiple small parts only, like 0 instantly to 64 and 65 to 127. I want a continuous pedal that can send cc from 0-127 smoothly like a real pedal.
Also I am using m-audio oxygen pro 61. I think it compatible with all of the pedals I have mentioned too?
Thank you for your time seeing this, I really need someone to help as I can’t find any answer googling. :(
thanks!
I bought a Roland DP2 damper pedal, plugged it into my Roland PC200 MK2 keyboard controller and it does nothing. Synth module is a Roland SC88 Pro. Is there configuration I need to do?
Hello bro. Thanks for the knowlege. I recently bought a Yamaha Sx900 but my FC4a pedal doesn't respond neither on the reverse nor the normal way. Howwvee it functions properly on several other keyboard models. Are there some settings i should perhaps do on the keyboard?
Hi, really sorry but not familiar with that particular keyboard so not sure really. Perhaps it's to do with certain sounds on the keyboard? Or perhaps a fault?
What does the hexagon screw on the DP-10 do?
Does anyone know? I connected the piano pedal to the piano, but it doesn't work and the keyboard doesn't make any music sound. When I plug in the piano pedal, no sound appears.
I have the Roland dp-10 for my FP-90 keyboard. It works great except for one issue: when I release the sustain pedal the notes immediately cut off without ringing out. When I slowly release the pedal, same thing, it just get to a certain point and cuts off. Is there anyway to fix this? I’ve messed around with the “continuous” and “switch” setting on the pedal to no avail. Please help
That's the keyboard, a lot of keyboards only work as on and off. Some more advanced keyboards emulate real pianos where you can control how much pedal is applied
Is dp8 similar good one?
the Nektar NP-2 is identical 19.99 USD
Will this work w/a 60 dollar keyboard? Btw,my keyboard has a Sustain switch so should I just use that instead?
Need to have harmony on my foot pedal anyone knows how to a sign it on my psr. sx900 Yamaha keyboard
If you guys have trouble with the pedal moving, get a cheap, thin rubber man to place it on (way better than taping it down in my case)
Many midi keyboards let you reverse polarity also
Do you have any information on a sustain pedal for the handicapped
person who does not have the ability to use a foot pedal? I read about a
switch that can be attached to a headband allowing the movement of the
head to activate the switch but been unable to find any details. I'm in the U.S.
Interesting... I had a think about this and a jaw operated sustain pedal should be easy to implement and also easy to operate,,, a band going over head and under jaw, velcro fixed, with a small switch and wire that can run down the side onto shoulder and then onto the keyboard. Opening the mouth for sustain should be easy to be expressive with... I'm not disabled but I am a bit of an inventor and I find handicap aid devices very intriguing.
So I could use it for my Korg B2 the M-Audio SP-2, right?
It says on their website ‘compatible with all electronic keyboards’ so should be all good
The older Yamaha FC4 pedals do not work with newer Yamaha keyboards (PSR series) - and contrary to "tricks" I've read to switch the FC4 polarity - these do not work.
Hi nice video btw!! Does the DP-10 have a polarity switch on it?
It doesn’t unfortunately
@DikoMan That's not a polarity switch. That's a switch for half pedalling which only works if your keyboard supports that too
Unfortunately I see this comment too late. Maybe it would be better if you pointed it out in your video.
I bought based on your recommendation.
I stayed dissapointed when I tried it out with my Akai MPK249 today.
Verdict: it's REVERSED.
Ah.. My bad, I better have to doublecheck its features next time.
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I heard an acoustic pianist talk about expression pedal, does it simply mean sustain pedal?
If i were to buy a second damper peddle, can i change it to act as a soft peddle?
That depends if your keyboard has a soft pedal function. I think most pedals should work in theory if it does as they’re just an on off trigger for the keyboard really but I would double check the specs of which one you’re looking at
I'm trying to look for a sustain pedal that is not clicky/noisy, any recommendations? Because I have a condenser microphone i want to be able to use while recording keyboard as well (I actually got a midi keyboard that is kinda silent for my use case).
I haven’t come across one that’s completely silent, my roland actually is more noisy than the m audio one if I push it down at a slight angle but if you fix it to the floor (I use gaffa tape at gigs) then should be ok. If you have a directional vocal mic close to your mouth, that’ll be quite far away from the pedal with the keyboard in between, I wouldn’t have thought the noise would be too bad.
@@PianoFromScratch ooooh okay. though if it's a sharp click sound from the pedal it can be heard easily i feel
Thinking of getting a second hand Roland DP10, or just a brandnew Maudio SP2?
Hey I have a question, do all pedals make sound the piano the same? Is just that my keyboard sounds a bit weird, like really squeaky and it’s annoying
I use Yamaha p125 btw
Sir ,will it be able to put in Casio ctk 3500 keyboard???
Hi, yes m-audio pedal should do if your keyboard has a 1/4” jack input for a sustain pedal. Says on their website 'compatible with all electronic keyboards’
Hola amigo, recomiendas el pedal sustain Medeli P80A?
Hi. I have never used that pedal so not sure unfortunately.
do we really need half damper pedal for developing a good pedaling habbit?
Not massively important right at the start, not important enough to spend a lot more money on a digital piano that does it anyway at least unless you can afford it
Hi um my midi keyboard doesnt have a sustain pedal port but can i plug the sustain pedal in my pc?
Might be a USB one that sends actual midi info somewhere but those might be pricey
I got a Yamaha pedal for my Emax and it doesnt work???
I got a M audio sp2 pedal it doesnt work when I step on it and play, it only worked as an on off switch. I am using an Alesis V61. Anyone know why?
Have you checked the polarity switch is in the correct position? If you're using a midi keyboard with a DAW, then it may be a setting in the software that's an issue, perhaps the sustain is set off for example. Hope you can get it sorted!
Can’t find a simple answer for what would be compatible with my Arturia Keylab 88 MKII
I just messaged arturia for that very reason smh. I'm getting pissed
Same
The Roland DP-10 is compatible!
Instead of buying a triple pedal cause they are pricy, can you buy 3 single ones and connect them to each input? For instance on Hammer 88 by M-Audio there are (EXP, FS2, Sustain)
Yeah. I know you can at least connect an expression and sustain to some keyboards.
Nektar NP-2 or M audio SP-2.. which one is best?
I haven’t heard of the brand Nektar before so not sure about that specific pedal. Personally, I have had good experience with M-audio products and they’re a known brand so that’s what I would go for
I got a yamaha psr e463 can you tell what pedal is best for that keyboard 😁
You could get the Yamaha FC4A pedal which will be compatible as it's the same brand. But they're usually more expensive so honestly I would go for the M-audio SP-2 which is universal, really good and a better price
Thanks for replying sir. I was confused between the two but I finally decided to order maudio sp2 .. i have heard yamaha dont has a half pedal feature I don’t what is that but I ordered this one you preferred thank you 😊
I am pretty new to this, but does this work with Yamaha p-45 digital piano?
If you mean the m-audio pedal, yes it does, works with any keyboard that takes a pedal, may just have to try the switch either way to see what works
Thanks. :)
I have jen piano 73
and wondering which pedal can I use for this old e.piano?
Don't know that particular piano but all sustain pedals (That I have ever seen) just use the same 1/4 inch Jack input so if you get one with a polarity switch, you should be good
@@PianoFromScratch ok thanks dude ✨
hi! what pedal would be good with a Yamaha p45/71? thanks!
Hi. Yamaha have the FC4 pedal but I think it's quite expensive. The m-audio universal one will work and is much cheaper. If you go for another brand liek Roland dp-10 for example which is really good, i'd check with who you buy it form that it works with a yamaha keyboard.
Piano From Scratch
Thanks a lot man!
Roland dp10 doesn't work with 3rd groove synthezis .
I want to get a roland dp-10 but can it work with casio cdp-s100 ? help me please thanks
Off the top of my head, I think the Roland’s and casios don’t work together. Seem to remember a student who had a problem once but double check on google, I’m sure there’s a forum answer somewhere.
Thank you so much for the reply helped me so much ;)
Hello. I have a Ctk-1550 Casio and it only has two slots for wiring, one of which is is always in use when I'm actually using my keyboard as it it's an electricity source. The second slot is labelled output/ phones and so I'm not entirely sure if my keyboard will be suitable for a pedal.
Hi, unless there's one labelled either sustain or damper, then I think maybe your keyboard doesn't take a sustain pedal. Just had a quick look on the casio website and it doesn't mention anything about sustain i'm afraid
@@PianoFromScratch nooo that's a shameee. Well thank you for the fast reply, I appreciate it. You've earnt a subscriber. Keep it up :)
Hey sorry to bother. Is it possible to get some sort of adapter? Because I reallllyyy wanna play my keyboard with a pedal.
I've never heard of one myself. It's really the keyboard that sustains the notes and the pedal is like an on/off switch so if your keyboard doesn't already do it, my best guess is that won't be a way of getting it too. Perhaps it's best to do what you can with it for now and then think about an upgrade when that's possible.
The thing is I bought it just recently and then I moved houses so I've chucked away like the packaging and the receipt. Unlucky ig haha. But I'll definitely continue with what I have. Thank you for your help, much appreciated 😊
I bought a roland dp-10 but it's working in reverse polarity is there a way to fix it? btw i have a casio keyboard.
theres no way to fix it but what casio model are you having
ct-x8000in
Yes there is a switch to fix that
Mine broke down real quick
I own a Yamaha PSR-433 keyboard and Yamaha FC3 sustain pedal, but the pedal is not working properly. Either it sustains, no matter what I do, either it doesn’t work at all. Anyone can help?
I have the same problem. Unfortunately, i was searching for an answer here as well..
It sounds to me like either the pedal or the keyboard might be faulty
@Bo van Burken Sorry the video didn't help but it was more a guide on getting a pedal and a common mistake people don't realise. I couldn't cover every possible thing that could go wrong unfortunately. Good luck getting yours sorted
usa.yamaha.com/support/faq/keyboards/9520.html
Looks like FC3 is not compatible with PSR keyboards ^^
so theres no polarity switch on this pedal
There is on the M-audio, not on the Roland
i almost spent money lol back to my commune
It's not polarity. It's called NO and NC: Normally open and normally Closed.
Thanks for the video. I have a question.
1.What's the difference between FC4A & FC5 pedals. Are they similar?
2. Do I need an expression or volume pedal like FC7 even if I have mod wheels? Or Mod wheels are just enough to assign and make desired modulations?
Note: I'm using Yamaha PSR -S910 keyboard and I would like to use it as a midi keyboard for the Kontakt on my PC.
Thanks for the reply in advance. :-)
FC4A is more like the design of a real pedal so much better to use physically. As far as other pedals go, really depends on how you like to use the keyboard, some people use them, some don't. Perhaps try them out and see what you like
@@PianoFromScratch Thanks for the reply Gentleman. 👍🏾😊
I would never buy an M audio again, I bought two. None of them lasted a year, they were dead in lest than a year. Roland is great, I've had my Roland for about ten years or more.
Fair enough, that would be annoying. I have a bunch of students who have had the M-audio for ages without a problem so was just speaking from my own experience. I have the Roland too, it's great, but I am actually on my 2nd one now after one packed in eventually. I do use it a lot though
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this is the video that talks about half damping effect through expression pedal, not possible with sustain th-cam.com/video/aUqgQK5pWWs/w-d-xo.html
Oh shite
great, got an akai mpk mini 3 and a yamaha fc5 sustainpedal, and the pedal is reversed, so fucking annoying
You are very fine guy
Both M- Audio pedals that looks like a fancier Dp-2pedal i have bought don't always stay sustaining.....the overpriced Roland Dp-2 works every time but being Roland costs too much