Seeing Jack actually being reserved and humble at first is actually incredible as you watch him and his group descend into sheet madness and insanity. Every shred of humanity that Jack had was slowly chipped away over the movie, and despite being a mediocre movie, had a really cool concept of people losing their humanity when forced into a survival situation.
@Notorious Supreme Monkey "slowly chipped away over the movie, and despite being a mediocre movie, had a really cool concept of people losing their humanity when forced into a survival situation." it's a strange way of wording things. the movie is not an original piece of work, and is simply a direct adaptation of the book, so it would make more sense to talk about the book having a "really cool concept of losing their humanity", rather than phrase it in terms of the movie.
First..they passed a conch around, wore a uniform, and talked like poms. And then...they danced around a campfire and yelled like idiots...claiming monsters lived in a cave and waving pig heads. Sigh..the way madness and isolation changes people.
Well, yeah. But they were kids! What did you think was gonna happen? This movie AND the book just go to show you that without guidance, children will literally tear each other apart.
I would lose my voice trying to get those boys into order. They all just yell and..I feel sorry to the fat guy with glasses and the main guy who were trying to make them see reason
I feel like the book wasn’t only about kids. I think that what Goulding used as the example tho. The book is more about how the social construct that is engraved into people minds guides them and how you can react 2 ways. 1. You can remember the rules that were instilled into you or 2. You could ignore them and allow yourself to become more primative. Overall the book does an excellent job at showing us the 2 types of people in the world. The piggy’s and the jack’s
It's just like biblical faith as Christians speak of it, if you think about it. He doesn't feel that he can be saved, that this life is meaningless, and he becomes the fully realized version of himself, as mad as that may be.
Okay I know all of us know that this is not accurate to the book AT ALL, but you’ve gotta hand it to the kids for doing so well interpreting their characters and adding to the character growth throughout the movie
@@adminbosskiller4010 Yeah, the parachuter was also in he 60s film. In this version they seemed to know him, I thought he was the man in charge of the group, maybe a military school teacher, but he got a fever and went a bit mad. They found his clothes on the beach and thought he swam off. Later I think it was Larry who first met him in the cave, he stabbed him ith his sharpened stick. Then Jack went to the cave and heard breathing and ran off. Some time between then and Simon discovering him he died. Maybe from the fever, maybe from being attacked by Larry, maybe a mix of both.
Politics (from Greek: πολιτικά, translit. Politiká, meaning "affairs of the cities") is the process of making decisions that apply to members of a group. It refers to achieving and exercising positions of governance - organized control over a human community, particularly a state. The academic study focusing on just politics, which is therefore more targeted than all Political Science, is sometimes referred to as Politology (not to be confused with Politicology). In modern nation-states, people have formed political parties to represent their ideas. They agree to take the same position on many issues and agree to support the same changes to law and the same leaders. An election is usually a competition between different parties. Some examples of political parties worldwide are: the African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa, the Conservatives in the United Kingdom, the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) in Germany and the Indian National Congress in India. Politics is a multifaceted word. It has a set of fairly specific meanings that are descriptive and nonjudgmental (such as "the art or science of government" and "political principles"), but often does carry a connotation of dishonest malpractice. The word has been used negatively for many years: the British national anthem as published in 1745 calls on God to "Confound their politics", and the phrase "play politics", for example, has been in use since at least 1853, when abolitionist Wendell Phillips declared: "We do not play politics; anti-slavery is no half-jest with us." A variety of methods are deployed in politics, which include promoting one's own political views among people, negotiation with other political subjects, making laws, and exercising force, including warfare against adversaries. Politics is exercised on a wide range of social levels, from clans and tribes of traditional societies, through modern local governments, companies and institutions up to sovereign states, to the international level. It is very often said that politics is about power. A political system is a framework which defines acceptable political methods within a given society. The history of political thought can be traced back to early antiquity, with seminal works such as Plato's Republic, Aristotle's Politics and the works of Confucius.
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The thing I find to be the most allegorical in this movie is at the beginning, Ralph has a broken arm and is wearing a cast. But as time passes on the island, his arm heals and his cast comes off. Compared to all of the allegories in the book and the 1963, for that relatively minor thing to be the greatest allegory in the movie is quite bad. Based on all of dislikes of this movie, the movie overall is an allegory for an error chain: common in disasters/incidents where each error/event is linked, and if one or two hadn't happened, the outcome possibly would have been different.
everyone’s saying jack is in charge. Ralph:it doesn’t matter who’s in charge. Ralph in the future:that was the biggest mistake ever happened in my life.
To think, this is probably how native Americans started, this is what the pilgrims did to native Americans, today this kind of feud, savages is what’s happening in the US with the Democrats vs. the republicans. Everybody I think wants to do what’s best in their view but it turns into this.
Correct, but they are also children. Oftentimes in the movie they are making decisions without knowing all the ins and outs. It’s a really well done movie when you look at it from that particular perspective.
I hate how they are cadets in this. It seems like they are way too prepared, despite why ends up happening. In the book and original film, they are just regular schoolboys, unprepared for the dangers and eventually insanity of the island
Jesus died for us all! Have a wonderful day! Jesus is God! (The Holy Trinity is true) Everyone in this scene is fully clothed, representing the fact that they’re still civilized, and are holding on to what little that ties them to society, except for Jack… He had already removed his shirt, meaning that he was always a little mad even before the island took ahold of him.
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Seeing Jack actually being reserved and humble at first is actually incredible as you watch him and his group descend into sheet madness and insanity. Every shred of humanity that Jack had was slowly chipped away over the movie, and despite being a mediocre movie, had a really cool concept of people losing their humanity when forced into a survival situation.
... you know it's an adaptation of a book, right??
@Notorious Supreme Monkey "slowly chipped away over the movie, and despite being a mediocre movie, had a really cool concept of people losing their humanity when forced into a survival situation."
it's a strange way of wording things. the movie is not an original piece of work, and is simply a direct adaptation of the book, so it would make more sense to talk about the book having a "really cool concept of losing their humanity", rather than phrase it in terms of the movie.
@Notorious Supreme Monkey i wouldn't be so sure about that. i have spoken to people who weren't aware the wizard of oz was adapted from a book.
@@33LB The Wizard of Oz is adapted from a book? :O
i had a crush on Jack when i was 9 watching this movie
“It doesn’t matter who the leader is, we just have to work together”.
That did not last long.
First..they passed a conch around, wore a uniform, and talked like poms. And then...they danced around a campfire and yelled like idiots...claiming monsters lived in a cave and waving pig heads. Sigh..the way madness and isolation changes people.
Well, yeah. But they were kids! What did you think was gonna happen? This movie AND the book just go to show you that without guidance, children will literally tear each other apart.
I would lose my voice trying to get those boys into order. They all just yell and..I feel sorry to the fat guy with glasses and the main guy who were trying to make them see reason
Callum Berriman god you are that dumb.. this shows how kids will turn out if you have no rules and no adults dumbass
I feel like the book wasn’t only about kids. I think that what Goulding used as the example tho. The book is more about how the social construct that is engraved into people minds guides them and how you can react 2 ways. 1. You can remember the rules that were instilled into you or 2. You could ignore them and allow yourself to become more primative. Overall the book does an excellent job at showing us the 2 types of people in the world. The piggy’s and the jack’s
@Callum - Yes...that's the whole point of the movie.
In the book, Ralph is known as the boy with fair hair....
Xcc
And jack red haired
Exactlyyyy
@@subsforunity Exactlyyyy
AND JACK IS GINGER-
Jack was such a non savage kid here. Once he convinced himself there would be no rescue,that's then he changed.....
It's just like biblical faith as Christians speak of it, if you think about it. He doesn't feel that he can be saved, that this life is meaningless, and he becomes the fully realized version of himself, as mad as that may be.
If you notice, Jack is the only one without a shirt which shows he's already turning to a Savage
I did notice the shirt, but instead I see it as a foreshadow that he will be the first to change
Big mistake Ralph made was saying "It doesn't matter who's in charge, we just gotta work together", WRONG!!! it absolutely matters who's in charge.
@123fuzzybears yesn’t
If you read the book, it says they have a vote and Ralph is voted as the leader
@@missr4233 yeah but they are SAYING if someone else was in charge like piggy it would have mattered a lot.
@@PapayaTheHuman yeah, its a good thing he wasn't the one in charge though.
"I guess you just won the election" = best line in the movie
Bruh he was kinda piss
You would never hear someone say that nowadays
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@@lcs684 fr
Trumpers blabbing about politics again
Anyone else notice how Ralph's voice is a little bit deeper here?
mommymeow32 yeah I think I heard somewhere that they had his voice dubbed over because he had a sore throat or something
I mean he was 15-years-old the year this movie was released.
But I doo= think that the deepness sounds wiser...
Okay I know all of us know that this is not accurate to the book AT ALL, but you’ve gotta hand it to the kids for doing so well interpreting their characters and adding to the character growth throughout the movie
Jack is the boy in a playground to admit he didn't get tagged xD
Boonk Gang haha
1:28 why is Simon’s little pat so cute to me
Still feel for my man Piggy |:
After watching Lord of the Flies, it saddens me to see these boys in this scene. They were innocent kids willing to work together
Why on earth is there a man lying on the ground? That wasn’t in the book
I was wondering that too!
1:30, right?
It’s their leader but he’s super sick
The movie butchered the storyline
If I'm not mistaken the pilot was actually hanging in the trees someone can correct me if I'm wrong I havent read the book in a while 😅
Having read the book recently, this guy was a replacement character for the parachute guy who dies (I think it was the parachute guy).
Why does Jack look like a young David Bowie
Am I the only one who thinks Jack kinda resembles David Bowie? 😂
My first thought
I liked jack in this scene cause he was actually nice to ralph😂
Roger was a bully but with that bowl haircut, shouldn't he have been the one to get bullied?
Piggy was a smart kid, they lost a valuable resource by mistreating him.
They didn’t realize that until AFTER the guard rescued them from the island
Ralph is supposed to be blonde-
jack is supposed to be red haired
Does it really matter though?
Bryce Linnarz yes. That’s what they are in the book.
It’s not like it’s a damn plot point or anything. Quit complaining
@@mikapiika yes and this is the movie you CAM chance things
"And the children learned to function as a society, and eventually they were rescued by...ooohh let's say Moe."
Das Bus!
"Where's the man with the trumpet?"-Jack to Ralph.
"There's no man with the trumpet, only me."
1:30 WHO IS THIS MAN?
Captain Bensen. He ended up living in a cave and became what people believed was, "the monster."
Angus King in the book, it was a parachuter that they mistook for the beast
@@adminbosskiller4010 Yeah, the parachuter was also in he 60s film.
In this version they seemed to know him, I thought he was the man in charge of the group, maybe a military school teacher, but he got a fever and went a bit mad.
They found his clothes on the beach and thought he swam off.
Later I think it was Larry who first met him in the cave, he stabbed him ith his sharpened stick.
Then Jack went to the cave and heard breathing and ran off.
Some time between then and Simon discovering him he died. Maybe from the fever, maybe from being attacked by Larry, maybe a mix of both.
hey jack was so nice and humble at the start AND HE LOOKS CUTE ASF DONT @ ME
makayla wanamaker hot? They’re like 10 you pervert
fr 😭😭
Ralph was way cuture than Jack what you on
Fr like 🥵🥵
I had to read this is english and now I'm traumatised
I love ralph and simon
When I was 8, I had THE BIGGEST crush on Jack in the movie.
0:54 that littilun started the Edgar cut
I feel like when Jack went savage was when he first painted blood on his face- from there he got more and more corrupted
Why did they make them american
dumb the movie down
@@RosinGoblin But Americans made Harry Potter so your point doesn't really work does it?
SuperQuail they weren’t American characters though whereas this movie they’ve made the children American.
Imagine caring what nationality the kids were
FearMe Pleasez it just makes this extremely unrealistic towards the book, considering the children were evacuees from WW2 Britain.
The book was great to read tbh
All hail the Magic Conch!!!!!
Lollolololol
Haven't seen this in 30 years. Until today. Damn. They still killed piggy
Politics (from Greek: πολιτικά, translit. Politiká, meaning "affairs of the cities") is the process of making decisions that apply to members of a group.
It refers to achieving and exercising positions of governance - organized control over a human community, particularly a state.
The academic study focusing on just politics, which is therefore more targeted than all Political Science, is sometimes referred to as Politology (not to be confused with Politicology).
In modern nation-states, people have formed political parties to represent their ideas.
They agree to take the same position on many issues and agree to support the same changes to law and the same leaders.
An election is usually a competition between different parties.
Some examples of political parties worldwide are: the African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa, the Conservatives in the United Kingdom, the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) in Germany and the Indian National Congress in India.
Politics is a multifaceted word.
It has a set of fairly specific meanings that are descriptive and nonjudgmental (such as "the art or science of government" and "political principles"), but often does carry a connotation of dishonest malpractice.
The word has been used negatively for many years: the British national anthem as published in 1745 calls on God to "Confound their politics", and the phrase "play politics", for example, has been in use since at least 1853, when abolitionist Wendell Phillips declared: "We do not play politics; anti-slavery is no half-jest with us."
A variety of methods are deployed in politics, which include promoting one's own political views among people, negotiation with other political subjects, making laws, and exercising force, including warfare against adversaries.
Politics is exercised on a wide range of social levels, from clans and tribes of traditional societies, through modern local governments, companies and institutions up to sovereign states, to the international level.
It is very often said that politics is about power.
A political system is a framework which defines acceptable political methods within a given society.
The history of political thought can be traced back to early antiquity, with seminal works such as Plato's Republic, Aristotle's Politics and the works of Confucius.
Ralph is so cute 😍
And jack😇
@@makaylawanamaker5785 jack's disgusting
Stfu they were kids
@@bib4393 They were all kids but not all of them led a cult-like group and murdered multiple people
@@makaylawanamaker5785 jack doesn’t have a soul
The magic conch has spoken.
I have to do it...
*_Spongebob reference._*
Code Blue ooooooh. The Magic Conch shell!
@@eaglesfan226
Piggy: “Can we go home now?”
The magic conch shell: “No.”
Jack's character is the best written character in the Book
love the acting
So this is where that episode of spongebob came from
Literally no one obeyed the conch rule
This is the only text I wanted to study for my GCSE’s and it’s the one we’re not doing
What other books are you doing for your course?
0:13 Edgar haircut
Ah yes the magic conch
The most sad part for me is when piggy died...
Jack looks like a young David Bowie.
All hail the magic conch !
Anyone else think they’d have an English accent?
Ralph is so freakin cute bro I’m in love❤️
🤨
that’s a child bro
🤔
@@wavoinfinity I mean they also could be around there age and the actor was 15 on this so they might be around 15 too
Is anyone else here doing the Socratic seminar in this?
I love jack's accent omg it's soooo pretty
Jesus died for us all! Have a wonderful day!
Jesus is God!
(The Holy Trinity is the truth, No modalism or oneness or JWs)
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Engaging
*FWATAACHIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNGGG*GGGGGGGG*
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This must have been the very first Hunger Games!!
It's so normal here and then I think about the ending... fuckin hell
The thing I find to be the most allegorical in this movie is at the beginning, Ralph has a broken arm and is wearing a cast. But as time passes on the island, his arm heals and his cast comes off. Compared to all of the allegories in the book and the 1963, for that relatively minor thing to be the greatest allegory in the movie is quite bad.
Based on all of dislikes of this movie, the movie overall is an allegory for an error chain: common in disasters/incidents where each error/event is linked, and if one or two hadn't happened, the outcome possibly would have been different.
self-important rambling
No that is because the actor broke his arm before filming.
im so sad that piggy died😢
everyone’s saying jack is in charge. Ralph:it doesn’t matter who’s in charge. Ralph in the future:that was the biggest mistake ever happened in my life.
1. Jack had red hair and Ralph had blonde hair
2. Wha- WHO TF IS THIS 1:29 ??
The movie butchered the book 😂 He ends up dying when a kid stabs him
Who came here after reading this in textbook?
ALL HAIL THE MAGIC CONCH!
Fun fact: the island used for the film’s setting is actually Hawaii.
How was the pilot even alive even though the book said that he wasn’t?
Do your homework, know how long it took them to create a police force and how long it took before they got it right
Who's here in 2020 after watching adults act out this movie?
To think, this is probably how native Americans started, this is what the pilgrims did to native Americans, today this kind of feud, savages is what’s happening in the US with the Democrats vs. the republicans. Everybody I think wants to do what’s best in their view but it turns into this.
Ralph
this was crazy man 10/10 very realistic i liked the kid that looked like a lizard
It’s this part of the movie where Jack used to be a nice guy
They were speaking without the conch
0:02 more people are heard besides Ralph (Balthazar Getty)
I pictured Vern from Stand By Me as Piggy lol
Fax Ralph.
A+ acting
Seattle 2020
It would be great if they have bear gills
Spear of destiny☁️
Conch is NOT pronounced with a 'CH' sound at the end, but with a hard 'C' sound!
I've never heard anyone say it like that in my whole life.
same
Hahaha.
Correct, but they are also children. Oftentimes in the movie they are making decisions without knowing all the ins and outs. It’s a really well done movie when you look at it from that particular perspective.
Ralph is the fair haired boy and Jack is the freckled
I hate how they are cadets in this. It seems like they are way too prepared, despite why ends up happening. In the book and original film, they are just regular schoolboys, unprepared for the dangers and eventually insanity of the island
They're supposed to be british right...
is no one gonna talk abt the kid with the bowl cut?????????
What I don't like the way in which Ralph talks , he seems rude, which in the book is NOT THE CASE
wtf?! the captain is alive? why😂
Lord of the flies☁️
Jesus died for us all! Have a wonderful day!
Jesus is God!
(The Holy Trinity is true)
Everyone in this scene is fully clothed, representing the fact that they’re still civilized, and are holding on to what little that ties them to society, except for Jack…
He had already removed his shirt, meaning that he was always a little mad even before the island took ahold of him.
nice
Why were they made American? They were English in the book
Later Jack usurped Ralph leadership
I wish it was more accurate to the book
Who is the man on the ground??
Not having the British accents kinda ruined the vibe.
Maude they need snuff and chew☁️
1:42 Why does the kid look like Oscar De La Hoya
Bro he looks NOTHING like him
great
First lieutenant James☁️
Do a pressed net☁️
My English teacher pronounces Conch as "konk"
I thought all of the adults died in the plane crash?
Why is there an adult?
Woodstock 99' kids version