Simon's death was sad, but Piggy's death caught me off guard so bad that I had to put down the book for a moment. The events played out in my head so vividly that I do remember hearing a "pop" in my head right when Piggy met his end...
I'm revisiting this film after reading the novel. I first watched it when I was around the same age as the older boys and certain scenes have never left me. I was a fairly wild boy myself; always fighting, exploring, getting into trouble, fascinated by war and violence. Fortunately I grew into a sensible, honest law-abiding and responsible adult. The behaviour of these boy-savages is incredibly disturbing to me, especially when I realise that under similar circumstances I could have been a Ralph. Or even a Jack. None of these boys are truly Evil after all. It's a Masterful tale...
The scary thing is that this movie is very realistic. I saw a documentary from England about ten schooboys aged 10-12 who were left to live alone for five days in a house and it ended up pretty much in the same way as in the Lord of the Flies. I also remember some of the same macanisms and situations from my own childhood. My class was a total mess and there were a couple of quite evil boys in that class who wanted to rule over all he other boys. There were two boys who hated each other and who both wanted to be the leader of the class and they both had their own supporters or gang. Me and one other boy were the only ones who tried to stay out of their conflict and tried to be neutral. There was also a lot of fighting and mobbing going on in my class. So the Lord of the Flies is very realistic and dipicting a typical Young Boys Environment when they are left on their own. It will almost always end up like in this movie. Young boys are very primitive by nature and therefore extremely impulsive...
This story is about society as a whole, not just childrens cruelty. Ralph is democracy and goodness, Jack is dictatorship and evil, Piggy is logic and reason, Simon is innocence, the grownups are civilisation, and the story shows basically how society falls apart. The evil uses fear of an imaginary monster to control, and offers good times for those who obey. When logic and reason begins to get mocked, democracy fails and people turn to cruelty and cheap amusement. Sounds familiar?
@@CathyKitsonnot exactly. Girls are mean with their words but boys are destructive and violent on average. There was a boys Vs girls alone experiment conducted and immediately the boys trashed the house, wrote on walls, divided into groups and antagonised each other relentlessly. The girls organised chores, cooked, ate together and moved all the beds to one area to sleep together. They had mild bullying compared to the boys which never escalated to physical violence and the biggest drama was over a cat which the girls competed to care for. The boys were ready to get physical over a t-shirt. I wouldn't compare the level of evils between boys and girls. I mean we know for a fact males are responsible for committing the the most violent crimes in the world. Women don't come close to what evil men are capable of. This is statistically speaking of course. Anecdotally I'm sure there are individuals who prove as exceptions to the rule. There are truly evil females that exist but far more evil males.
when I was kid I watched a Hollywood movie , I still have memory of a scene from the movie where a group of school friends drop a big stone to the friends turned enemy from the top of the cliff . it was a movie about survival, thriller. I really want to watch that movie again - And I found it 😊
Such a great film by Peter Brook ! Lord of the Flies translate Beelzebuth which stands for the devil in the Bible. As is said in Golding's novel : "The reason why there is no go."
I'd have been like 'Piggy' with my thick lens specs. I've always mistrusted all male environments and thankfully I've not been exposed to much of them in my long life. This is the first time I've seen this film in its entirety and it was well worth the wait.
Back in the sixties this book was set reading at school , my cousin being four years older than me was the first of us to be set this tale and I remember reading the book quickly whilst she did other home work. A chilling tale then and now, the attraction of paradise parental and scholastic freedom on one hand and the rise of a dictatorial psychopath and the resulting anarchy on the other all set against the back ground of nuclear war and a re-imagined evacuee program. Very definitely a story of it's time but non the worse for that, like Orwell's Animal farm a reflection of the the extreme politics of the previous thirty odd years. I can't help but wonder how the author might have written this tale if he was starting today.
I studied it too in the 1980s...the analysis of the unfettered human psyche. Democracy and all the other "...acies" mean nothing and are merely artifice when pressures of actual physical survival overwhelm stupid conventions. The psychopath lurks in us all and, occasionally, is very useful. Cheers from cool and sunny Australia.
also read it in the 80s then re-read it last week. movie was ok but missed a lot of details from the book which i guess is normal. as a kid i thought it would be cool to be stranded on the island... oddly enough i now live in tropical asia on an island and do a lot of jungle trail running so not too far off... although no fear of beasts eating me... lol
@@pi3.14etc How are you enjoying the book?? Does it seem relevant to today's world?? Or just a curiosity from a bygone age? When I was twelve I just thought Piggy was a bit of a sad act, It was only later in life I began to realize Piggy represented the liberal middle ground who's thoughts ideas and body were literal crushed between the two extremes of the right and left. Anyway good luck.
I haven't seen this film in ages. It is a harsh reality of what would, most likely, happen if our civilisation crumbled. Let's just hope we never get to experience a nuclear holocaust or world wide cataclysm.
Recently we started this chapter in our class and this is very interesting and reality of life 😢😢 this novel is 21 time rejected and this novel is 8th world banned novel.
please be a little more optimistic- humankind has come a long way in a short period of time. Some aspects such as tolerance, appreciation of other cultures and beliefs have not kept pace but they are catching up. And no I am not talking about artificial PC iron on transfers which are holding us back.
@@JeffDavies-i8q id say the opposite. The more empathic humans survived, thats why we are empathic today. People that are selfish and cruel never make a society work
@@JeffDavies-i8qthe fact that we have a current on going war tells you enough that we literally have learnt nothing. We’re just going on with the flow.
The wonderful thing is that this story is not realistic at all. When teenage boys shipwrecked on the uninhabited island of ʻAta in 1965 and lived there for 15 months until their rescue, they did not descended into savagery, but survived through friendship and cooperation.
I don't care for this world anymore I just want to live my own fantasy Fate has brought us to these shores What was meant to be is now happening I've found that I like this living in danger Living on edge it feels... it makes me feel as one Who cares now what's right or wrong it's reality Killing so we survive wherever we may roam Wherever we may hide we've got to get away I don't want existence to end We must prepare ourselves for the elements I just want to feel like we're strong We don't need a code of morality I like all the mixed emotion and anger It brings out the animal the power you can feel And feeling so high with this much adrenalin Excited but scary to believe what we've become Saints and sinners Something within us We are lord of the flies Saints and sinners Something willing us To be lord of the flies Saints and sinners Something within us We are lord of the flies Saints and sinners Something willing us To be lord of the flies Saints and sinners Something within us We are lord of the flies Saints and sinners Something willing us To be lord of the flies
Piggy would be so happy if he lived until they rescue them he would gather with his aunt.. and simon 😢😢 however this is the first time for me to admire a tragic movie
My absolute favourite book that I read as a young person about 12 years old, got through it in one night and have revisited it a number of times since.
@@mucro849 Nah Fr tho, The 1990 version is such a disappointment, it’s like the director just read the blurb and is like “That’s enough information to make an adaptation” even tho it’s NOTHING like the book
This Depicts the cruel Nature of a human being (majority) If we wanna achieve something we go for it without even Thinking of the paths that we should use whether right or wrong.We just go with the flow and Following leaders who offered us a little bit and Are Scarier In society.
The story is set during a war. In the book we are not told which war, but the boys are evidently evacuees. If you read the book you will find that the smoke from the burning jungle is seen from a British warship, which sends a team to investigate. The irony of the ending is that the adults who rescue the children are themselves trapped in the same situation, but on a far larger scale. With regard to your original question about what sailors are doing in a boat on the sea I suppose the answer would be: sailing.
I always thought the plot was ridiculous. Sure they would have created a severe dictatorship with many strict rules and punishments. But I doubt very much they would have reverted back to tribalism. And many more children would have died of starvation and disease. Children who grow in harsh conditions become adults very quickly.
It's stated in the book they suffered from perpetual sto,ach problems and diarrhea. Aswell golding point wasn't 'what if a bunch of kids were stuck on an island' it's more a belief he had on human nature being awful, if kids died from starvation then it wouldn't be effective
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Simon's death was sad, but Piggy's death caught me off guard so bad that I had to put down the book for a moment. The events played out in my head so vividly that I do remember hearing a "pop" in my head right when Piggy met his end...
The pink brain meat
I'm revisiting this film after reading the novel. I first watched it when I was around the same age as the older boys and certain scenes have never left me. I was a fairly wild boy myself; always fighting, exploring, getting into trouble, fascinated by war and violence. Fortunately I grew into a sensible, honest law-abiding and responsible adult. The behaviour of these boy-savages is incredibly disturbing to me, especially when I realise that under similar circumstances I could have been a Ralph. Or even a Jack. None of these boys are truly Evil after all. It's a Masterful tale...
Thanks Flick Vault, I’ve been wanting to watch this film again for years.
The scary thing is that this movie is very realistic. I saw a documentary from England about ten schooboys aged 10-12 who were left to live alone for five days in a house and it ended up pretty much in the same way as in the Lord of the Flies. I also remember some of the same macanisms and situations from my own childhood. My class was a total mess and there were a couple of quite evil boys in that class who wanted to rule over all he other boys. There were two boys who hated each other and who both wanted to be the leader of the class and they both had their own supporters or gang. Me and one other boy were the only ones who tried to stay out of their conflict and tried to be neutral. There was also a lot of fighting and mobbing going on in my class. So the Lord of the Flies is very realistic and dipicting a typical Young Boys Environment when they are left on their own. It will almost always end up like in this movie. Young boys are very primitive by nature and therefore extremely impulsive...
They can also be evil, cruel little buggers. When they laugh after beating the boy. Girls can be cruel, too, but in a completely different way.
This story is about society as a whole, not just childrens cruelty. Ralph is democracy and goodness, Jack is dictatorship and evil, Piggy is logic and reason, Simon is innocence, the grownups are civilisation, and the story shows basically how society falls apart. The evil uses fear of an imaginary monster to control, and offers good times for those who obey. When logic and reason begins to get mocked, democracy fails and people turn to cruelty and cheap amusement. Sounds familiar?
Mechanisms 😊
@Gonken88 Great observation! Absolutely!
@@CathyKitsonnot exactly. Girls are mean with their words but boys are destructive and violent on average. There was a boys Vs girls alone experiment conducted and immediately the boys trashed the house, wrote on walls, divided into groups and antagonised each other relentlessly. The girls organised chores, cooked, ate together and moved all the beds to one area to sleep together. They had mild bullying compared to the boys which never escalated to physical violence and the biggest drama was over a cat which the girls competed to care for. The boys were ready to get physical over a t-shirt. I wouldn't compare the level of evils between boys and girls. I mean we know for a fact males are responsible for committing the the most violent crimes in the world. Women don't come close to what evil men are capable of. This is statistically speaking of course. Anecdotally I'm sure there are individuals who prove as exceptions to the rule. There are truly evil females that exist but far more evil males.
when I was kid I watched a Hollywood movie , I still have memory of a scene from the movie where a group of school friends drop a big stone to the friends turned enemy from the top of the cliff . it was a movie about survival, thriller. I really want to watch that movie again - And I found it 😊
I remember reading the book, more than half a century ago, frightening, and it still is.
it is the spirit of Beelzebub.
This is truer to the book than the Hollywood flick. Thanks for uploading
I’m obsessed with this film and the book
Who is your favorite character?
Why it’s shit?
@@ricknufc1990 Is it because you’re illiterate?
@@Asherbirks8471 no lad the book was beyond boring
Such a great film by Peter Brook ! Lord of the Flies translate Beelzebuth which stands for the devil in the Bible. As is said in Golding's novel : "The reason why there is no go."
I'd have been like 'Piggy' with my thick lens specs. I've always mistrusted all male environments and thankfully I've not been exposed to much of them in my long life. This is the first time I've seen this film in its entirety and it was well worth the wait.
You are a male.
*Thanks for uploading. It's good to see boys who are not savages because they are English and the English are best at everything.*
Yeah we're the best at things like destroying everyone else's culture and being ignorant
-Best at colonizing other countries and disturb their peace.
Back in the sixties this book was set reading at school , my cousin being four years older than me was the first of us to be set this tale and I remember reading the book quickly whilst she did other home work. A chilling tale then and now, the attraction of paradise parental and scholastic freedom on one hand and the rise of a dictatorial psychopath and the resulting anarchy on the other all set against the back ground of nuclear war and a re-imagined evacuee program. Very definitely a story of it's time but non the worse for that, like Orwell's Animal farm a reflection of the the extreme politics of the previous thirty odd years. I can't help but wonder how the author might have written this tale if he was starting today.
I studied it too in the 1980s...the analysis of the unfettered human psyche. Democracy and all the other "...acies" mean nothing and are merely artifice when pressures of actual physical survival overwhelm stupid conventions. The psychopath lurks in us all and, occasionally, is very useful. Cheers from cool and sunny Australia.
Perhaps he'd talk about cyber bullying, cancelling or bullying about trans issues!
also read it in the 80s then re-read it last week. movie was ok but missed a lot of details from the book which i guess is normal. as a kid i thought it would be cool to be stranded on the island... oddly enough i now live in tropical asia on an island and do a lot of jungle trail running so not too far off... although no fear of beasts eating me... lol
I'm in year 9 now and we are reading this, got one chapter and an assessment on piggy left
@@pi3.14etc How are you enjoying the book?? Does it seem relevant to today's world?? Or just a curiosity from a bygone age? When I was twelve I just thought Piggy was a bit of a sad act, It was only later in life I began to realize Piggy represented the liberal middle ground who's thoughts ideas and body were literal crushed between the two extremes of the right and left. Anyway good luck.
I haven't seen this film in ages. It is a harsh reality of what would, most likely, happen if our civilisation crumbled. Let's just hope we never get to experience a nuclear holocaust or world wide cataclysm.
This is such a good way of representing societys ups and downs. Love the book + film. Hope you enjoyed the film as much as i did, have a nice day!
Its honedtly such an underrated movie and book, i wish there would be more adaptaitons of it but sadly this book was kinda forgotten in time. Sad
Simon deserved better.
Wayyyy better. But people only focus on piggy.
Recently we started this chapter in our class and this is very interesting and reality of life 😢😢 this novel is 21 time rejected and this novel is 8th world banned novel.
Human nature will never change, however much you try.
True words
please be a little more optimistic- humankind has come a long way in a short period of time. Some aspects such as tolerance, appreciation of other cultures and beliefs have not kept pace but they are catching up. And no I am not talking about artificial PC iron on transfers which are holding us back.
@@JeffDavies-i8q id say the opposite. The more empathic humans survived, thats why we are empathic today. People that are selfish and cruel never make a society work
@@JeffDavies-i8qthe fact that we have a current on going war tells you enough that we literally have learnt nothing. We’re just going on with the flow.
The wonderful thing is that this story is not realistic at all. When teenage boys shipwrecked on the uninhabited island of ʻAta in 1965 and lived there for 15 months until their rescue, they did not descended into savagery, but survived through friendship and cooperation.
I don't care for this world anymore
I just want to live my own fantasy
Fate has brought us to these shores
What was meant to be is now happening
I've found that I like this living in danger
Living on edge it feels... it makes me feel as one
Who cares now what's right or wrong it's reality
Killing so we survive wherever we may roam
Wherever we may hide we've got to get away
I don't want existence to end
We must prepare ourselves for the elements
I just want to feel like we're strong
We don't need a code of morality
I like all the mixed emotion and anger
It brings out the animal the power you can feel
And feeling so high with this much adrenalin
Excited but scary to believe what we've become
Saints and sinners
Something within us
We are lord of the flies
Saints and sinners
Something willing us
To be lord of the flies
Saints and sinners
Something within us
We are lord of the flies
Saints and sinners
Something willing us
To be lord of the flies
Saints and sinners
Something within us
We are lord of the flies
Saints and sinners
Something willing us
To be lord of the flies
Brilliant film. Brilliant quality once again. Thanks 👍
Piggy would be so happy if he lived until they rescue them he would gather with his aunt.. and simon 😢😢 however this is the first time for me to admire a tragic movie
The scariest bit is Simon got kill by jack haunters
I read this book at school, I am 80 now. This film version I found was very, very disturbing. Well made but very disturbing.
Are u still alive?
@@Sienna_X nah violating
This book remembers me when I was still young fighting with my elder brother which was very bad
A classic and severely underrated.
My absolute favourite book that I read as a young person about 12 years old, got through it in one night and have revisited it a number of times since.
But its missing the whole intro! that really sets it up, thats a shame
Totally agree mate 🍌🙈
The boys just singing after getting stranded on the island 😭
Thank you for this amazing film
Big Thanks for Sharing, I remember it was set reading at school also!
Much appreciated:)
My all time favorite movie. #1.
1:04:58 I might be a male but I tear up watching this bit Simon deserved better
Classic.
Thank for sharing it in youtube
Much better than the remake.
But…….This is the remake
@@TheWakeySnakey This is the movie adaption of 1963. Do you know an older adaption?
@@mucro849 Wait are u saying the 1963 Version of the book is better then the 1990 version, cause if u are then ur right
@@TheWakeySnakey The 1963 version is much better.
@@mucro849 Nah Fr tho, The 1990 version is such a disappointment, it’s like the director just read the blurb and is like “That’s enough information to make an adaptation” even tho it’s NOTHING like the book
Timeless! 👍
Was 13 when our class read this at school. I hated it then and I hate it now.
Lippy sent me
This Depicts the cruel Nature of a human being (majority)
If we wanna achieve something we go for it without even Thinking of the paths that we should use whether right or wrong.We just go with the flow and Following leaders who offered us a little bit and Are Scarier In society.
Great film, a similar theme dealt with in Walkabout.
I just watched a film about adults that was depicted using children.
William Golding, the author of the book, was a teacher. He knew what children are capable of...
Because project high council i came here😂😂😂
Fav novel ❤
i like IS film because it make me to under stand better❤
Wasn't how I expected it to look.
really enjoyed the book. movie may have been better if i hadnt read the book.
It's a part of our syllabus
Yeah.... It is
i heard the story from fiction and came here to watch😅
1:16:49 best part easily
The actor for piggy grew up and owned a Mars bar factory apparently lol.
So in real life he had a much better fate. 😊
Can you guys imagine 😢 oh no the death of piggy and Ralph
Can't imagine how awkward the boat home would be
i dont understand, at what part did thee group splitt up ?
U know now cos I can answe?
I wish teacher could show us this film first before teaching us novel lord of the flies.
Not a stich on the boy that was spanked
Good. Bad can never win over good.
Beelzebub.
Mention capatalian students 😂
2nd year last chapter in English😢
30 seconds im and already more faithful to the book that the shitty 1990 movie
I think the people who made that movie just read the book then sat in a circle and said :
Okay, this is a pretty good book, but i have better idea...
What do you mean?
Kid's these days wouldn't stand a chance at surviving
urm what are navy dudes doing on a tiny wooden boat in the middle of the sea :0
The story is set during a war. In the book we are not told which war, but the boys are evidently evacuees. If you read the book you will find that the smoke from the burning jungle is seen from a British warship, which sends a team to investigate. The irony of the ending is that the adults who rescue the children are themselves trapped in the same situation, but on a far larger scale. With regard to your original question about what sailors are doing in a boat on the sea I suppose the answer would be: sailing.
We had to read the book at school, which I found incredibly boring. Maybe the film will be better.
We understand, Master!
Listen up, everybody! From now on, let's send better books and movies to the center of the universe!
The book is great
@@Emannzo You are a genius hahahah i would follow you instead of him though.
scariest thing was the acting
''We're not savages, we're English!''...... hmm🤭
I always thought the plot was ridiculous. Sure they would have created a severe dictatorship with many strict rules and punishments. But I doubt very much they would have reverted back to tribalism. And many more children would have died of starvation and disease. Children who grow in harsh conditions become adults very quickly.
It's stated in the book they suffered from perpetual sto,ach problems and diarrhea. Aswell golding point wasn't 'what if a bunch of kids were stuck on an island' it's more a belief he had on human nature being awful, if kids died from starvation then it wouldn't be effective
Ya chapter 2ndyear ke ha
Even in alti eng class 11we have this novel
Unwatchable cos of ads. Thanks
Pay for “You Tube Premium” and you’ll never see any ads. I’ve given up TV, cancelled my TV Licence, and bought TH-cam Premium instead. Much better value.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree Never.
I was lucky. Didn't get one ad.
it is eclate au sous sol
gezzzzzzzzzz
1:08:21. Why's the boy being beaten?
I think it’s because he disrespected jack not sure
Punish one, educate all others
@@BaYanTse Pour encourager les autres.
i think he was the one to call Simon the beast
In the book they explain that It was for no reason, only becouse Jack was angry. His name was Wilfred.
1:04:00 noentendí esta parte
*എന്താ പേടിച്ചു പോയോ* 😏
കിളി പോയി
c est nul noir et blanc et je suis pas raciste
😮😮😮
Frightening? rather lame.
man dis suks lmaoooo
eyad ali
nulllllllllll
I just clicked like, and now we're at 666.................666........................Lord of the Flies...........................Beelzebub.
Creepy...