I've fished 45ish years and this used to scare me many years ago, until now that is, the crimps are much softer and gentle on the line. I get an occasional grip problem from carpol tunnel and when tying knots they look bloody dreadful. These are a game changer, slick as you like 🚀
What a great Idea, I am going to give this method a try, once i can afford those crimping pliers! a lot easier than trying to fiddle around with those uniknots ! which i still have trouble with,😪 good clear video, well done.
I got a set of those crimping pliers, use them all the time to put bootlace ferrules on the ends of wires. Got mine in a set from Lidl, about £10. Alternatively there are other crimp pliers available, ones that are like more conventional pliers and are cheaper, take a look in the carp fishing section.
Yes I’ve used Sandman’s technique for a couple of years. Only recently did I have a rig fail on the crimp when it was snagged. Therefore I have added to the strength by blobbing the end like you and also added a dab of superglue to the line before tightening the crimp up.
Good idea with the superglue👍 a while ago (dont know if is still the case) gemini rigs were made with the line bonded somehow (perhaps with glue?) rather than knotted
Interesting and informative video, like the blob touch to expand line, prior to crimping, think I stay with knots, but crimps good on thicker line, for large fish (conger etc) rigs PS like your previous video on “rig making board” will be adapting my workmate accordingly to take a new insert Go steady
Yeah, I'm a bit like yourself, Crimping is something I've been thinking about, but I'm not sure. I'm lucky in that I already have a pair of those crimp pliers, they are the same ones as used for electrical bootlace crimps. So I guess the thing to do is make up some rigs the normal way and make up some the crimped way and try them out side by side as it were. - Like your little tip about using the lighter to put a bit of a blob on the line. One thing I do know about crimps is carp anglers (those guys that like to dress entirely in that green / khaki colour and hang out in the section of the tackle shop where everything is that colour), well those guys have been using crimps to come up with there elaborate rigs for a long time so I guess crimps can't be all bad.
That's a good idea crimps already on order will be giving it ago, looks much easier than tying knots in 60lb line and it looks nice and neat, cheers Paul.
Really impressed with this! Off to buy a crimp tool, being partially sighted I struggle seeing to tie the knot properly so will give this a go.. Cheers
simple, affective, clean, and only thing I would do is put a little float on the hook to keep it off the bottom unless you want it there. Other than that, I would use for black drums, red drums,. Great Vide . Tight Lines.
Good video, I would give the crimp a go but only on the top and bottom swivels double the line, no adjustments needed, once crimped that's staying there.😎
Very informative. It certainly looks very neat, but I don't see the advantage in it over knots. I'd be very interested to see a test in which you make two equal lengths one with crimps and the other with knots and plate load it to see which breaks first. Il purchase myself one of those crimping tools if I can find one
I use two crimps now. One behind the other. But I now also blob the end as well. It allows me to get very accurate modular traces. I did find that using crimps on the hook snoods to be part under pressure. Hence the double crimp I now use.
Cool. I have a bunch of those style crimps assorted sizes and those square crimpers for electrical work. Never occured to me for fishing so thanks very much. Have you pull tested to see how it fares?
I’ve used crimps for years with great success but I never use them to attach the weight clip. Think you get less line distortion with crimps as knots always leave a little kink in the knot when mono is stretched/tensioned. Blobbing the tail is a good idea and shall use that tip, but does that work with braid?
Careful what line you use , I have had some very good line that seems slicker than others and it most certainly does slip , for me it was a complete failure using the same crimp pliers as hard as I could and a good test pull the end link ended up in one hand and the line plus crimp on it in the other , seems ok on single line, but for me not the double line ,IMHO safe only in certain circs .good vid though mate .
Hi I Have made up rigs with crimps. I did a pull test, on the crimps, it's easy enough to set up, but and please use some safety glasses and gloves, and with a spring balance, see how strong it holds, this will give a bit of confidence in using crimps.
@@ukseafishing i did a pull test at work the other day. Used a lead clip crimped on each end of a length of 80lb shockleader around 3ft long. Welded a small hook made from a welding rod onto a piece of flat bar long enough to stand both feet on. Made another with a hook welded to a bar long enough to hold with both hands. Crimped the lead clips on, with the end of the line blobbed with a lighter flame before sliding it all down so was 2mm ish outside the crimp, then crimped so the flame wasnt close to the main line. Hooked it up and pulled with steady pressure, harder and harder until something gave way. The line eventually broke, an inch or two below where the crimp was on the top lead clip. But didnt break next to the swivel at all, and the crimps didnt give out. Stood the test for me so am going to use this to make my rigs up with from now onwards, but still use knots to attach hooks to help baiting up.
@@ukseafishing Using a suitable spring balance or small weighing scale, clamp a clip in a vice, then clip your crimped rig body, for the test, i used a short piece of rig body, with a clip and swivel, attached your tool to a suitable clip oval slit ring, and with a steady pull, measure the BS, to test the crimps hold.
I am a bit late to the party but i to have just brought the crimping tool and plan to try crimping . Been doing it for years on the boat for conger and Tope traces . How's it been for you
Great video, I like my rigs nice and neat so I will give the crimps a go, great idea putting a blob on tag end. Where did you get the crimps from. COYS
Hi Dean I think somewhere you were going to pull test these, did you manage to do that? Hopefully Good results ?. Also how did the fishing test go. With these, thanks in advance
It just seems like another expense to me. Tho that could just be the Exmoor in me being tight. I personally only use crimps for flapper rigs. Tho your rig looks very neat and tidy with the crimp.
+Steven Price could be seen that way but I think its just an alternative option for those who maybe aren't to clever with their knots. thanks for the comment.
@@ukseafishing Oh yes definitely a good alternative. I also recommend some of the rig builders on Facebook. Some sell them for less than a pound a rig as they bulk buy the components. We'll worth it to save the hassle for some people.
They have used crimps on wire traces and rigs for years...I have used them on my 0.80mm Mono Rigs like One Man Rifle Maker says...two crimps at each end of the main rig body but passing the tag end over the second crimp then back down (inside towards first crimp), leaving very short gap between the two - this provides extra security and for a while I watched the gap as I fished but as it never moved I took to covering both crimps with some shrink wrap to tidy everything up - by the way Paul changed the 4 jaw crimping tool from eBay (like you are using in the vid) to a six jaw one which I use (these are much better) - I guess someone needs to do a full pull break test in the same way that knots are tested - hope this helps - as always do your own due diligence as safety is imperative with a 6oz lead on a power cast - tight lines
I'll look at the 6 way crimping tool, also thats a great idea with the 2 crimps and up and down through the crimps. When you tidy it up with shrink tube does the heat to shrink the tube damage the line at all?
just started using crimps many yrs using knots , my rigs are loads quicker too make , dont think i would want one on the weighted end just in case the lead flys off
being a sparky i have tried my knipex and also a cheap pair like yours,i had a lot of failures i mentioned this to sandman but i never heard anything back,i made conger rigs and pike rigs and most failed,just be careful when casting with this idea
Here is a link to the set I bought mate. Preciva Crimper Plier Set, 0.25-10mm²/AWG23-7 Self-adjustable Ratchat Wire Crimping Tool with 1200 Wire Terminal Crimp Connectors and Wire End Ferrules www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073TZ5BBG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_560DWDX8J8WK8B8710K9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Very well, never had a single rig fail...however I only used them for short to medium range casting, any power long range stuff I only used knotted rigs..
I'm here looking for advice on this matter. Are you now fully sold on using crimps great to here your over all opinion after sometime of using them Cheers
Hey dude. I'm completely sold on crimps for my shockleader only I have more confidence with crimps than with 100lb 0.80dia cheers for your video once again
I've fished 45ish years and this used to scare me many years ago, until now that is, the crimps are much softer and gentle on the line. I get an occasional grip problem from carpol tunnel and when tying knots they look bloody dreadful. These are a game changer, slick as you like 🚀
Very good video and use the same method exactly. Not had a failure yet. Use it with confidence. Thanks for sharing.
What a great Idea, I am going to give this method a try, once i can afford those crimping pliers! a lot easier than trying to fiddle around with those uniknots ! which i still have trouble with,😪 good clear video, well done.
Thanks Mel. It is very neat too
I got a set of those crimping pliers, use them all the time to put bootlace ferrules on the ends of wires. Got mine in a set from Lidl, about £10. Alternatively there are other crimp pliers available, ones that are like more conventional pliers and are cheaper, take a look in the carp fishing section.
Yes I’ve used Sandman’s technique for a couple of years. Only recently did I have a rig fail on the crimp when it was snagged. Therefore I have added to the strength by blobbing the end like you and also added a dab of superglue to the line before tightening the crimp up.
I'll give the superglue a go. Cheers mate
Good idea with the superglue👍 a while ago (dont know if is still the case) gemini rigs were made with the line bonded somehow (perhaps with glue?) rather than knotted
Yes they use a glue and a line welder. Creates a super strong bond. You can actually buy them from America cost about 120 quid
Looks very sturdy, would give it a go in future. Nice1
Very nice and neat! I’m definitely going to give it a try! 👍
Thanks Grant
Interesting and informative video, like the blob touch to expand line, prior to crimping, think I stay with knots, but crimps good on thicker line, for large fish (conger etc) rigs
PS like your previous video on “rig making board” will be adapting my workmate accordingly to take a new insert
Go steady
A great informative video , I might give the crimps a try .
Yeah, I'm a bit like yourself, Crimping is something I've been thinking about, but I'm not sure. I'm lucky in that I already have a pair of those crimp pliers, they are the same ones as used for electrical bootlace crimps. So I guess the thing to do is make up some rigs the normal way and make up some the crimped way and try them out side by side as it were. - Like your little tip about using the lighter to put a bit of a blob on the line. One thing I do know about crimps is carp anglers (those guys that like to dress entirely in that green / khaki colour and hang out in the section of the tackle shop where everything is that colour), well those guys have been using crimps to come up with there elaborate rigs for a long time so I guess crimps can't be all bad.
Great little video...the rig looks amazing and Im pretty sure that the line would fail well before the crimp 👍
Doesn't get much more tidy than that mate. Great informative video mate. Keep up the great work..
Cheers mate, love your channel!
That's a good idea crimps already on order will be giving it ago, looks much easier than tying knots in 60lb line and it looks nice and neat, cheers Paul.
Yeah I like my rigs nice and neat I think that's what appeals to me the most. Will be testing them next weekend...
You could also use some rig glue under the crimp.
Thats an excellent idea!
I did wonder if crimps would be a good idea - looks as though it is - must try it myself thanks for the video
ill have to try that looks good idea cheers for sharing A1
Thanks for the comment Denis
Hi there yes I use the circle crimping plyers they work well as long as you use crimps that are a snug fit haven’t had any problems good luck
cheers jeff
Really impressed with this! Off to buy a crimp tool, being partially sighted I struggle seeing to tie the knot properly so will give this a go.. Cheers
Hope it helps mate
Im going to give this ago just wondering how u been getting on with this method. Plus your videos are great. Help me with my fishing.
Nice job mate. 😊
simple, affective, clean, and only thing I would do is put a little float on the hook to keep it off the bottom unless you want it there. Other than that, I would use for black drums, red drums,. Great Vide . Tight Lines.
Yes we use floating beads called pop ups mate
Looks good 👍
Looks good
How are you getting on with crimping? Any failures and do you find you have less issue with weed getting caught when using crimps instead of knots
Used crimps for some time now and find them a lot better. I use a different crimping tool, but yours looks better.
Im gonna make up a few rigs and test them out mate
Good video, I would give the crimp a go but only on the top and bottom swivels double the line, no adjustments needed, once crimped that's staying there.😎
Thanks Ron
Very informative. It certainly looks very neat, but I don't see the advantage in it over knots. I'd be very interested to see a test in which you make two equal lengths one with crimps and the other with knots and plate load it to see which breaks first. Il purchase myself one of those crimping tools if I can find one
I think its just an alternative option for those whose knots aren't to clever. Thanks for your comment Glenn
@@ukseafishing keep the great videos coming 👍
I use two crimps now.
One behind the other. But I now also blob the end as well.
It allows me to get very accurate modular traces.
I did find that using crimps on the hook snoods to be part under pressure.
Hence the double crimp I now use.
I will give that a try too!
Cool. I have a bunch of those style crimps assorted sizes and those square crimpers for electrical work. Never occured to me for fishing so thanks very much. Have you pull tested to see how it fares?
I haven't yet John, looking to do that soon.
Are you still using crimps. Do you know where the alloy crimps can be bought.
Yes mate I am. I'm not sure buddy
What type crimps are you using and where do you get them.
I’ve used crimps for years with great success but I never use them to attach the weight clip. Think you get less line distortion with crimps as knots always leave a little kink in the knot when mono is stretched/tensioned. Blobbing the tail is a good idea and shall use that tip, but does that work with braid?
I've never tried it with braid Tony, ill give it a go.
I’ve literally done exactly what you did just tried only on the rig body ( less than 7 days ago) haven’t tried them yet🤞
Let me know how you get on dave
Careful what line you use , I have had some very good line that seems slicker than others and it most certainly does slip , for me it was a complete failure using the same crimp pliers as hard as I could and a good test pull the end link ended up in one hand and the line plus crimp on it in the other , seems ok on single line, but for me not the double line ,IMHO safe only in certain circs .good vid though mate .
Hi I Have made up rigs with crimps. I did a pull test, on the crimps, it's easy enough to set up, but and please use some safety glasses and gloves, and with a spring balance, see how strong it holds, this will give a bit of confidence in using crimps.
How did you do the pull.test mate
@@ukseafishing i did a pull test at work the other day. Used a lead clip crimped on each end of a length of 80lb shockleader around 3ft long.
Welded a small hook made from a welding rod onto a piece of flat bar long enough to stand both feet on. Made another with a hook welded to a bar long enough to hold with both hands.
Crimped the lead clips on, with the end of the line blobbed with a lighter flame before sliding it all down so was 2mm ish outside the crimp, then crimped so the flame wasnt close to the main line.
Hooked it up and pulled with steady pressure, harder and harder until something gave way. The line eventually broke, an inch or two below where the crimp was on the top lead clip. But didnt break next to the swivel at all, and the crimps didnt give out.
Stood the test for me so am going to use this to make my rigs up with from now onwards, but still use knots to attach hooks to help baiting up.
That's brilliant mate. Nice to know it has been tested
@@ukseafishing Using a suitable spring balance or small weighing scale, clamp a clip in a vice, then clip your crimped rig body, for the test, i used a short piece of rig body, with a clip and swivel, attached your tool to a suitable clip oval slit ring, and with a steady pull, measure the BS, to test the crimps hold.
I am a bit late to the party but i to have just brought the crimping tool and plan to try crimping . Been doing it for years on the boat for conger and Tope traces . How's it been for you
It's been great, I don't use it on my distance rigs yet though...
Great video, I like my rigs nice and neat so I will give the crimps a go, great idea putting a blob on tag end. Where did you get the crimps from. COYS
I got them on ebay mate. COYS!
Doing the same thing, for a good few months now, only had 1 fail on a bad snag
That's excellent to hear Paul. I'm going to give them a go next weekend. Thanks for the comment!
brilliant vid bro subbed
Cheers mate
Hi Dean I think somewhere you were going to pull test these, did you manage to do that? Hopefully Good results ?. Also how did the fishing test go. With these, thanks in advance
It just seems like another expense to me. Tho that could just be the Exmoor in me being tight. I personally only use crimps for flapper rigs. Tho your rig looks very neat and tidy with the crimp.
+Steven Price could be seen that way but I think its just an alternative option for those who maybe aren't to clever with their knots. thanks for the comment.
@@ukseafishing Oh yes definitely a good alternative. I also recommend some of the rig builders on Facebook. Some sell them for less than a pound a rig as they bulk buy the components. We'll worth it to save the hassle for some people.
not to sure on the crimping tool myself, you can only use them on the bigger crimps, they don't seem to crimp down on the smaller ones
You need to change the tension settings by undoing the screw on the side and turn the wheel to the smallest notch setting.. works fine for me mate
I have used knots with crimps behind, that is tie my knot then crimp the tag end to the main line.
Thats a good idea mate
They have used crimps on wire traces and rigs for years...I have used them on my 0.80mm Mono Rigs like One Man Rifle Maker says...two crimps at each end of the main rig body but passing the tag end over the second crimp then back down (inside towards first crimp), leaving very short gap between the two - this provides extra security and for a while I watched the gap as I fished but as it never moved I took to covering both crimps with some shrink wrap to tidy everything up - by the way Paul changed the 4 jaw crimping tool from eBay (like you are using in the vid) to a six jaw one which I use (these are much better) - I guess someone needs to do a full pull break test in the same way that knots are tested - hope this helps - as always do your own due diligence as safety is imperative with a 6oz lead on a power cast - tight lines
I'll look at the 6 way crimping tool, also thats a great idea with the 2 crimps and up and down through the crimps. When you tidy it up with shrink tube does the heat to shrink the tube damage the line at all?
i noticed the glue i would blob a bit on after to strengthen the crimp
Great call that mate
Crimping the way to go, quicker cleaner stronger 🎣
What about thinner lines, eg 0,40 mm? Still can do the job?
I haven't tried that small a line. I can't see why not though
Looks good, have you done any casting with it yet?
Not yet. Testing them next weekend.
just started using crimps many yrs using knots , my rigs are loads quicker too make , dont think i would want one on the weighted end just in case the lead flys off
Is there a link for the crimping tool?
Have you try it fishing off a boat at all
No, I can imagine its a good idea as your not exact casting, so less strain on the weight
being a sparky i have tried my knipex and also a cheap pair like yours,i had a lot of failures i mentioned this to sandman but i never heard anything back,i made conger rigs and pike rigs and most failed,just be careful when casting with this idea
I will bear that in mind, I haven't had a failure yet. Thanks for the comment
@@ukseafishing no problem I’m not being negative as they look spot on,but just be careful mate
Hi
What are the crimping pliers.
I've not found a decent pair yet.
Regards Chris
Here is a link to the set I bought mate.
Preciva Crimper Plier Set, 0.25-10mm²/AWG23-7 Self-adjustable Ratchat Wire Crimping Tool with 1200 Wire Terminal Crimp Connectors and Wire End Ferrules www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073TZ5BBG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_560DWDX8J8WK8B8710K9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@ukseafishing fantastic many thank. BTW cracking video too.
Regards Chris
Thanks Chris
How did you get on with this ?
Very well, never had a single rig fail...however I only used them for short to medium range casting, any power long range stuff I only used knotted rigs..
Great idea but a bit sceptical until I’ve seen them in casting
Will be trying them out next week mark. I'll post a video and keep you updated 👌
@@ukseafishing that will be good to see
What do u call that yellow thing sir?
Do you mean the therma link?
looks good but i think i would stick to knots
Yeah I'm still undecided too, going to give it a try though. Thanks for the comment Alan
It’s a lot neater don’t use anything else now have had no problems with it
I like the neatness too. I also have had no issues up to now.
They use this method for blue fin tuna
I find double crimps far better, and using cup to cup crimping pliers.
Don’t see why it wouldn’t work, they have used crimps on shark and conger traces for years. Tight lines
Yes I see that, I did a lot of research before I posted this video. Looks and seems good. Will be testing next week. Thanks for the comment Les
The new terms links won’t go through crispers 😥
Thats a shame mate
COYS
I'm here looking for advice on this matter. Are you now fully sold on using crimps great to here your over all opinion after sometime of using them
Cheers
Im 50/50. Still use crimps and knots depending on the rig. I've only had 1 rig slip on a crimp.
Thanks for your reply Ive been also thinking about it for a while my self I may just give it a shot.
Thanks top video
Hey dude.
I'm completely sold on crimps for my shockleader only I have more confidence with crimps than with 100lb 0.80dia cheers for your video once again
Can't really see the benefits, apart from saving maybe 20 seconds, I would stick to knots👍
I was just thinking that maybe some people may struggle a bit with decent knots so maybe an alternative. Thanks for the comment mate
Might damage the line
No more than a knot