My stepfather sexually abused all of us children from a very young age. When my mother found out she packed us all in her car and left. My mother never forgave herself but the fact she was our savior, never questioning our truths was instrumental in our healing. I became a Sexual Assault Counselor helping others through their trauma.
Years ago I asked the volunteer coordinator for the rape center in Lancaster, PA if they ever got calls from Mennonite and Amish girls. “Are you kidding? 86% of our calls are from Mennonite and Amish girls about their fathers, their uncles, their brothers, and even their grandfathers.” This woman deserves so much praise and respect for standing with her children through such horrific terrorizing. Bless you and your children, Audrey.
WOW! 86%...yeah, I knew that that went on in Amish / Mennonite circles, but I had no idea it was THAT high. With numbers like that, there are a couple of Amish grocery stores near me that also make excellent sandwiches that I've always loved. But with statistics like that, huh-uh. No more.
I am so grateful for this interview. I am in awe of this brave mother and the love she has and demonstrated to her children. She has broken a generational cycle and curse. She has given hope to others going through the same. Blessings this lioness and her cubs ❤
This woman fought her entire world to protect her children. Absolutely incredible. Thankfully the justice system, law enforcement, and child protective services was able to back her up. Her children were incredibly brave. I wish them the absolute best for their futures.
What a evil lot of people who created this type of living.Its someone's imagination to live this kind of lifestyle.Demon possessed people who are controlled by lust and devils.Thank God he got her out of this evil cult.
I have been learning this by reading the Quran, how damaging and prevalent it's in Islam: It's so frightening to read ! Understand, how " the Quran instructs the males to be paedophiles: and with babies: also instructs female, wife sexual abuse & physical abuse, and many other abuses to control the Female : IT IS SO HEARTBREAKING, ESPECIALLY IN TOTAL ISLAMIC COUNTRIES: MAY GOD PROTECT EVERBODY ❤
Many religions are similar behind the scenes and some are even worse HOWEVER...one of the reasons deceitful,chaotic ,modern day Government, ENJOY ridiculing these faults of these people is to hide their own guilty in government and the Protestant and Catholic people...and to destroy the noble intent of good people and take away their Functional ability to build their own children and healthy grandchildren... And promote sheeple world Wide who disrespect integrity of Nature and replace it with the. Noise of stupid people and culture's...all over our Western World !!!
Terrible suffering, the lady & her precious children went through, but thank God who freed them! I have a lot of admiration & respect for the lady- surely her resolve & tenacity to achieve freedom, if not full justice, was used by God! I've never been able to digest the depravity of the human heart that is bent on covering injustice.So sad that those Amish made the girls think Church is the worst place, & probably that God is not the wonderful Person He really is.I pray for this family to know the real God.
What Audrey said about romanticizing the culture struck home to me. I grew up in Michigan, where the Amish were not all that unusual, but it's just the touristy stuff you are allowed to see. Pretty quilts and home made jams. You hear about the barn-raisings and see the horse and carriages ambling along the side of the road, and everyone looks so peaceful and happy. The fact that the man of the house might knock his wife and kids around or molest his daughters is the last thing that would occur to you. Thank you for raising awareness.
exactly, as they present God loving, God fearing., I respected the neighbors i have and also "wanted to be like them or romanticized", as it is a hard way of life, but very simple. Knowing her story and now others, shows yet again, then men never take responsibility for all the pain, trauma and heart ache they cause. She is so brave to leave and be shunned ect. I no longer will be doing business or driving my neighbors any more , now that i know what really goes on behind closed doors, as when i did drive them there were tiny subtle signs, but until you see stories of women who left or tell what really happened then you really don't know because again they quote scripture and are god loving god fearing people. I'm glad i know the truth now and i just pray that 1 day law enforcement will help the women and the women 1 day will have the chance to save themselves and their children! My new prayer for these communities is that the men really find God and stop abusing their women, ( and children), and my other prayer is that the cycle ends. I will pray that women will find new ways to learn what is abuse and what is real love!
@@lgspeical7879You mentioned that you drive them & that you now going to stop because of the Deceitfulness behind this society. Had me thinking that maybe your act of kindness might be seen as an escape route for a woman or child knowing you are allowed to be in the area. Of course I may have misunderstood but if I was trapped and I saw how there might be an unsuspecting means of getting out - like hiding in the trunk or back seat of a vehicle that’s been seen as acceptable outsider. I would watch to find that as a possibility of escape. Like I said I may have misunderstood…
@@lgspeical7879 may I point out ,the governments foster care system is even more barbaric than the religious people who create thru trauma brothers and sisters...who because of catatonic infant memory cannot challenge an incorrect mother or father . ..the muscle 💪💪 cannot respond to the good judgement of the victims mind...
I am the wife of the guy that this phone is under...Audrey you are a very strong woman to have endure such a traumatic life. Not all Amish communities are like the ones you lived in. So sorry for you n your children. My Mom' s uncle was a molester that went to his grave with it never being exposed. I could write you a story but not enough time n room. I can't blame you for getting away. My question is...how was the Bishop allowed to hire an attorney???? I thought they didn't go to the law?
I remember once going on a rare outing with the church youth group. (Baptist) At a stop the woman chaperoning us opened a cooler filled with cans of soda. She asked me what my favorite kind of soda was. I honestly had no idea how to answer because I had never considered that I was allowed to have a favorite let alone a choice.
My gram was Amish (left them) and I work with a lot of Amish. As an HR person, I had to deal with a sexual harassment case of one Amish man against many young Amish girls. It was initially covered up by the Amish plant manager until I finally found out. The most disgusting part is that the Amish manager’s daughter was also a victim of the perp and her dad still ignored it! I’m so glad you are outing the Amish as the cult they are.
Wonderful family in some areas,good workers,however very deceitful, paranoid,and very similar problems to old order Mennonites in pa...bad inbred Blood???I would know I have identical Blond Hair...becomes yellow 🟡 in the sun ... 😆
Audrey, thank you for being a Mom who didn't look the other way but instead, stood up for your children and brought them to safely. Thank you for putting them first. I will pray for you and your family❤ for continued healing. May God Bless you and keep you safe!!! Amen
I was friends as a child with Audrey's daughters while they lived in PA. My family has gone through a somewhat similar situation to theirs, and ended up reconnecting during the pandemic as both of our families were going through court trials. Audrey was an awesome support for specifically my mom during my family's court process, and so from experience, I know how strong and brave she is. I'm so grateful that both our families are safe now and working through healing, and I'm so glad that Audrey's able to share her story so people are aware how much goes on behind closed doors in the Plain community. Plain communities are so romanticized to the extent that folks refuse to believe horrible things happen, so this type of advocacy is so very important.
Your daughter who came to you and asked the first question, is such a strong character. She had no role model before her, but she found the courage in her heart to go to her mother. I want to credit her here, for w/o her bravery initially, who knows what might have become of you and your children, not to mention future generations of your progeny.
I cannot express how inspired I am by you. To raise 5 children while dealing with these legal battles, harassment, your own trauma, and the mental health of your kids. How? I know you must look back and don’t know how you survived, but you did. You’re an extraordinary human ❤
Shit, when even the defense attorney’s like “he did it, please do not make me do my job” you know it’s gotta be real bad 😬 incredibly strong woman, and thank you for standing up for your children, from a child who didn’t have that kind of mom
I'm never sure how defence lawyers justify it, obviously a key part of the justice system is that everyone is entitled to defence. But for truly horrendous crimes I'm not sure how you do it
I’m so grateful for her testimony and authenticity about her experiences. I went through something so very similar with my ex husband who was a narcissistically abusive husband and father. He used my children as pawns in his never ending plan to remove my six children from me. I was blessed to have plenty of support from my family and friends who helped me with court costs for my divorce and custody battle. He didn’t want his children, he just didn’t want me to have them. They are grown now and have received and continue to receive the therapy they need. 18 years later and we are all doing better, but the scars are deep. This video was so helpful! Never give up! Never give in! We are stronger than we realize🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Shelise, I know that other people have said this before but you are such a caring interviewer. You manage to help people tell their stories without prying. It's so nice to watch these interviews because you don't make them about you, you give them an opportunity to share what they want to share.
Thank you so much for saying that. It means a lot that people see my intention of creating a safe space. ❤️ I also do an extensive call beforehand so I know what they are and are not comfortable speaking on, just to make sure I don’t bring something up they aren’t ready for. It’s definitely a team effort 😊
@@CultstoConsciousness it really shows and I'm sure that that care really helps your guests. It also really helps people watching. Because even when the subject matter is really difficult, it's clear that the guest is enthusiastically consenting to sharing what they're sharing and the intent is to make the world better, not some kind of voyeurism. I grew up in a church that can be described as "off". Off enough that I'm almost 40 and still unwinding it all, knowing that I'm not alone is really healing.
@@CultstoConsciousness That's actually really neat that you do a call beforehand to get to know each other and seek out what they are comfortable with sharing. Thanks for not putting anyone on the spot but also giving a safe space.
As a father of five children and twelve grandchildren, I could never ever think of doing that to my family. It never crossed my mind period! People, that is pure evil no matter the culture. There are no words available to heap upon a so called father that does that to his children or anyone else. These aren’t fathers, these are just plain evil men not worthy of the air to breath. Remember fathers there will be a judgement day so stop assaulting your children!
I couldn't listen to this all in one go.I thought I was in a better plac re mt own SA. I know you gave a trigger warning but stories like these trigger me ..... I am also a victim of SA and exactly a week ago I was at his funeral. I went to free myself and let it be buried with him. Well .... Easier said than done. I was not in a cult, but I was in a church that never addressed abuse of any kind We found out about a decade ago that he is my dad's half brother. At the funeral I did the math and concluded he was the product of an affair my grandfather had. I have yet to encounter a religious group that openly speaks up against abuse
Audrey, you are a BOSS. I’m so so sorry for all you’ve been through. It is NOT your fault and you are an angel for fighting for your kids and protecting them from evil. THEY are wrong and YOU are right. Please don’t ever doubt that for a second. ❤
Is there a punishment/consequence for rape today? Do you want there to be? Many men outside of the religious culture are unable or unwilling to control themselves. Something needs to be done.
I'm a christian, but sorry to say, it happens a lot within the religious culture too. there is going to be a bunch of it come to light in the near future too. @@Cat54867
This woman is the best mother I have ever seen. Her kids are the luckiest babies. This is 1 of the best interviews I’ve seen on your page. Good job both of you ❤
To Audrey: THANK YOU. Thank you for listening to your children, for taking them seriously, for being immensely brave, for breaking the cycle. My own SA experience was at the hands of an LDS church elder, who's wife refused to acknowledge what was happening even though it was happening to her own daughters, too. She asked us why we can't just let it go. My own mother, although she took action eventually as I attempt to seek justice these days, did not attempt to press charges or pursue anything, caving to pressure to change wards instead. Even though I finally got her to talk about it, for nearly 30 years of my life, she just tried to pretend it never happened and actively avoided the topic or any responsibility for how it was handled. I'm sure you know well the frustration from your own situation, so I just want to say it again: Thank you.
I am sorry that happened to you with one of your ward church leaders . I was SA by 2 men when I was young they were members of a church, I told my mom ,she swept it under the rug. It has taken me years to realize back then it wasn't talked about. Oh yes it needed to be . But women were still just getting to be heard in America. Now we have a voice we need to use it. Every religion has their SA person but it's not about what their Religion their Gospel is all about. Shame on that man and those that swept it under the rug. They will answer for it some day . Sorry the SA happened to you.
Audrey , I’m so sorry to hear this! I am also an Amish woman who has been abused . But I have an amazing Amish husband and friends who are not remaining silent for the sins of the Amish . Lancaster county PA Amish have a lot of people that are willing to take a stand ! They have even been there for me when my brothers and Dad say they have done no wrong it’s what every brother and Dad may do ! And yes we have also reported them. But like you said they police refuse to put them in prison.But God has remained so faithful in my life , I feel his presence every day. Praying for you and your family.
Audrey wow. Im an old mama now,im a grandmother, 56. But i totally love how you stood up for and behind your children. Especially in that circumstance. It took unimaginable strength,and will. Im sorry any of you experienced that type of horror. Its a testament to your love that you all have come through the others side. I can tell you,as a long time dv and sa survivor myself, that talking about it,and helping others who have gone through similar experiences is one thing that has really helped me personally. Sending you all much love ❤
I came from a cult , but a polygamous one. The sexual abuse, control and brain washing is unreal. Thanks for sharing and good luck on your healing journey...
@CultstoConsciousness I can put you in contact with a wonderful organization whose mission is helping people "escape" from Amish control & make a life in the outside world.
Are there no laws in the US (the American dream and all that jazz???) to put such criminals in jail . Or is there an amendment that is protective of such evil cultic practices?
I know Audrey and I’m blessed to call her a friend. She’s beautiful in every single way and I look up to her! Can’t wait to hug you Audrey, proud of you!
For anyone else who is a Christian, please know that having a mental illness is not an indication that you are a bad Christian. You deserve whatever medical care and therapy you need as well as any spiritual support.
Well our country and many others started with natural spiritual connection to nature & humans beings until that connection was replaced with Christianity. Christianity was used to conquer/divide, kill ,steal, and destroy. Here we are today divided, stressed,overworked,judgmental,untrustworthy,mental health of right is wrong /wrong as right being feed to us,when really everyone just want to hold on and make another day Thank you to this lady for having the courage to speak up❤.
That's for sure, I just wish some how someone could help me. I've never been in such a horrific situation like this No one not even the police will help me.
As a man who strives to be someone people can trust, it ANGERS me when ANYONE holds the attitude that men aren't capable of controlling themselves. In Matthew 5:27-28, note how Jesus placed ALL of the blame for lust on men and NONE on women.
@@fredmckinney8933 Yes - men are capable and not only that - they good caring perons. Whenever there is a group which says men are incapable of self control - it´s always established by psychopat who is participating in sexual abuse. Be it this group or Islam, or tuns of other cults. Then he dies and group inherits his insanity and skewed views of both men and women and abuse continues...
After enduring years of abuse myself, I thought I’d found my Prince Charming. Everything I did in my life was to protect my children, he knew that. Thirteen years later, my children came to me with the accusations against him. I immediately believed them. We all loved him, the kids would not have made it up. It absolutely broke me. I ended up in the mental hospital a year after the report, and weeks after he plead guilty. Those years are like a blank, it’s just like a blur. Somehow I got a job, went back to school, dealt with damaged children and started counseling. He only got 10 years adjudication. He never even saw the inside of a cell - he reported to police booking with an attorney and bail bondsman. He arrest was front page news in our little town (the kids & I had a different last name). No one from our church ever called me, no note of sympathy, not even the pastor came by or called. Some people even avoided me at Walmart or community events. What he did was the ultimate betrayal. I was so angry, hurt, guilt ridden, and just plain sad for a long time, but finally had to let it go so I could move forward. I’ve never remarried, don’t even date, and don’t trust anyone. I’m glad to see how many here who have experienced what have, were able to move forward and heal.
I'm sorry for the tough experiences you've gone through. ...and your kids. I want to salute your strength and courage in being there for your children. I'm sorry that no one reached out in support. Personally, I believe in karma, and karmically, your husband didn't get away with anything karmically. He'll have to be accountable at some point. I believe that in the end, it all balances out. But it doesn't always happen before our eyes. You are a beautiful, radiant soul! Know that! Sending you out tons of love. Please keep finding support and commeraderie in places like this - so you know you're not alone. Because you're not alone. Take care of you. Make this year ahead a special one! Wishing loads of great things for you and your kids!
When I worked in SA prevention, one thing I learnt that sustains me is that the first necessary step toward survival and recovery is having someone believe you and see you. So much better if it’s your mother. I also had a lousy marriage, although nothing as colossally toxic as what you endured, and lost my ability to trust. At 59 I met a real human man who proved to me that good men exist. That is only my story, and I have endless respect for your decisions and what you need on your journey, but life is a funny thing, and grace can find you unexpectedly…
I honestly do not have the words to explain how much your story of your life and those of your children truly touched me .Your strength as a human is incredible ,your strength as a woman is remarkable ,may your future be your best life ever.Sending much love to you and your remarkable children ❤ .
It’s been a long time since a podcast has literally brought me to tears, but this one really broke my heart. I can only imagine, as a mother, how mentally and emotionally broken I would be after finding out that the man I married, and had trusted my babies with, had violated and betrayed my trust AND violated my children and broken their hearts as well. As parents, we are given to guilt so easily for so many reasons because we want so much to protect our children in the best way we know how! What a strong woman she is, to have had to overcome so much adversity in her childhood, and then to have to overcome even more adversity as a mom and wife. What an incredible woman, and what a heartbreaking, but also triumphant, journey her life has been.
Don't ever regret leaving . You are a brave, young mother. Kudos for standing up for your children and taking them out of that situation. It takes an extraordinary courage to do what you did. Your children in turn, will respect and take care of you later in life. You are teaching them, and sending the rest of the Amish community a clear message, that what happened is wrong, and it should be addressed and punish accordingly. As hard as it was , it is all worth it for you and the children. God bless you and your children and help you heal from all that negative experience and trauma.
Ugh, as an ex-muslim I can see so many similarities. Islam is often seen as something exotic and abuse is often excused with "it's their culture". But just like with the Amish, it's rooted in fundamentalist patriarchal religion. It would be wonderful if you could talk to an ex-muslim woman. Yasmeen Mohammad for instance.
Exactly. I'm Kenyan, and this month, there is an event organized by some Muslims (mostly women), the event seeks to explain that "polygamy is good". They talk about it like it's a solution to all marital problems!! I remember one quote being about "polygamy isn't about sharing a husband; its about every woman having a husband". I have nothing against marriage, but they make it seem like having a husband defines a good woman. There's a lot that isn't spoken about Islam, maybe because people defend them a lot.
@jullietmburu9672 My ex thought it his right to marry a second wife. It was his solution to our marital problems and my resulting 'coldness'. Did I mention he is my ex? I can say that jokingly, because I have a lot of white Western privilege, but most Muslim women are not so fortunate.
What an extraordinary women. It’s hard to believe that she is able to smile at all after hearing about her life. Audrey on a Harley is a terrific way to thumb her nose at the many despicable people she has had to endure. A beautiful momma bear. Shelise, you are an amazing, compassionate person that extends a gentle, helping hand to all of your guests. Blessings. ❤
I absolutely want to thank you with all my heart for this magnificent interview I grew up in a overtly, horrific religious home. It took me many years until I was in my 40s to finally free myself from the scars the religious scars, the abuse, the emotional and verbal abuse, and now being an educator and a teacher, I pass my wisdom onto my children that I teach and the beautiful people that I have in my life. Thank you to this extraordinary Amish woman who is so brave to come forward and bear the pain of what she endured to make a stand for her True Center and honesty. I cried through most of it, but I was so deeply touched at the integrity and the honesty of the program and I want to thank you so much may many, many people profit from this beautiful interview as I did. Thank you so much, I pray that many people were healed by this! And to this former Amish woman who writes her Harley motorcycle I drive an FJ cruiser, so I resonate with you a lot you are an extraordinarily beautiful woman and didn’t we become much stronger after all the pain?!
Never understood why the crazies of religiousity toss perfectly good items away or worse, burn them. Greg Locke's ppl burned an antique clock in one of their stupid bonfires. The waste of good items and talent among religious nutter-butters is just insane to me.
Horrifying. My Mom and Gram encouraged my talent and I was able to pursue a degree in Piano Performance. I also directed a Music Ministry for many years. It was all God and no religion. Beautiful.
Wow I am just blown away by how courageous this woman is. I am truly in awe of her strength. I’m so glad your kids have you and I’m so sorry that no one was there for you when you were younger. You have shown so much bravery time and time standing up to these monsters and continuing to share your story. I have no doubt that this is will inspire others and hopefully lead to change. Growing up I often saw the Amish portrayed as good, wholesome people but I knew there had to be some darkness lurking in there. I was born and raised in Mississippi around a lot of intense evangelical christian communities and churches. I can’t stand people who use religion to control and abuse others. I have yet to see an extreme religious group not be guilty of harming its followers. It’s tough balancing the freedom of religion and these extremist groups but more definitely needs to be done. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I hope you and your family are able to heal and find peace and happiness 💜
She was in an extreme extreme group. All Amish have some of these problems, but this new order Amish group is not the normal Amish group. Also her family was messed up too. Not all are like this
There should be more pressure to regulate these sects and cults, they shouldn't be allowed to make their own rules and laws, these usually leads to horrible abuse
Who would regulate them though? I trust those in government little more than the leaders in groups like these. Sadly, most people attracted to positions of power are selfish and narcissistic. Governments with too much control also become abusive.
I agree with you, except the 1st amendment says freedom of religion. But I agree with you. I wish we didn't have these high demand religions and cults.
@@calinasagilitypartner4444They are supposed to still obey the laws. Freedom of religion only means freedom to religious activities that don’t break the national and state laws. But, in practice, cults are getting away with insane things because the government is lax on enforcing laws on religious groups.
@@calinasagilitypartner4444 Freedom of religion sort of stops at human trafficking, physical abuse, sexual abuse, financial abuse, exploitation, theft, fraud, and a whole host of other issues. And if the Christian Conservative sects whine about it - should probably remind them that even their own holy book says to "Render onto Caesar what is Caesar's" - or in other words - worship but still obey the laws of the land. To be fair though, the founding fathers didn't even want religious organizations to be able to own property or obtain wealth. I think we honestly need to enforce that.
Even if they tried to enforce the law they have high power lawyer out the butt and the support of the English community which they live. They tried to get them to put reflectors on there buggy’s one time but when they confiscated the buggy’s the English people bought them and gave them back
Im so glad that she was here in Pennsylvania and had an amazing lawyer! I hear ao many people bash my state, but there are so many good things like Audrey's lawyer. Im so in awe of Audrey's strength and fighting spirit to be there for herself and her kids. I'm so proud of you, Audrey! Keep on, keeping on!
I used to work for a home infusion company. I had to speak the parents of a toddler going home on iv antibiotics after being hospitalized due to being kicked by a horse. The father got on the phone as the head of his family and as soon as he heard i was a woman on the phone he refused to listen to a word i said and made me speak to his wife. That was all i needed to know about amish mens feelings about women.
I have never thought I’ll of the Amish until the last few years as I have been learning some of the things the men get up to and get away with. I’m very sorry if this is just a small percentage of bad apples. The problem with that is, the ones who are not perpetrators, at least in some level are the enablers. When I see what they do to their animals. Even THAT is enough to make my blood boil. I have seen the crippled and suffering horses (and I LOVE horses!). My God, that’s enough to make me want to invoke Moses’ law of an eye for an eye. Even if they didn’t harm women and children. The animals being mistreated would be enough for me to be so angry. Then add in what these men have done to their own wives, daughters and sons! How many generations has this been festering??? We all need to rally behind brave women like Audrey and help it be an easier option to get the people out who need and want to get out! I see groups that are trying to rescue the horses, but more needs to be done to turn this stuff around. Save the women, children and horses before they are so broken.
I've seen what happens to some of the horses that are betrayed & sold to slaughter after serving an Amish family. It is disappointing. Thank you both! Great interview!
True. The abuse is shocking. Poor animals worked to the edge of death and dumped. Cruel culture. Women with no power, and men with their boot on the neck of the women and female children works out great- right? Patriarchy with no guardrails.
I have been somewhat in her shoes. It is the hardest thing to comprehend that your (mine) ex-spouse has/have molested children and yours etc. It's really hard to deal with the aftermath of the abuse and be abused for sticking up for your (my) children. Others just don't understand. I am in PA as well and completely feel for her pain. Much love to her and proud of this mom.
I’m so sorry for what you and your children have been through ❤️ I can barely imagine how hard that must have been 😔 I’m sending you lots of love and strength ❤️
I wish I had a mom like you! You are a super mom.I was physically, verbally and emotionally abused by my father. My mom would just watch and not say a word. As an adult I confronted her about this and she just told me that I was crazy and I deserved the physical punishment because I caused trouble as a preteen and teen. She blamed me!!! Having your mom's love and protection is so important and now I am 50 and realize that I have never had that and never will. You feel like you have something missing from your soul for life.
I am Catholic and of course our religion has its own molestation history. My husband didn't go to church but he was brought up Methodist. So we decided to go to a local Methodist church together. First service, the Pastor said that abortion was a sin and that the blood of that child is on the girl's hands. I was so pissed I was struggling to stay seated. After the service, I went through the reception line and said to the pastor, "I hope you realize that the blood of that child is also on the boys hands". He said nothing. I gave him a week. I went back the next Sunday to see if he recanted anything he said. He did not, and I never returned to that church to hear his misogynistic word! Now I worry what garbage he went onto spew into young children's minds. It seems like the Amish are grooming the boys to be overly sexual and the girls to take responsibility. I am so sorry for the deviency that you have experienced.
Norwegian here. A few years ago an American Facebook friend asked on Facebook what kind of monsters performed abortions. I told her it was normal people like my dad. My dad was an OB-GYN and in the 70s and 80s he worked in major hospitals here in Norway. It was part of his job, just like deliverling babies was. Lster he opened his own practice, and abortions are by law done in hospitals here, at his private practice he referred women to hospitals to have abortions. I asked my dad about his views on it once, his answer was his opinion did'nt matter, the only person qualified to decide was the pregnant woman. My dad was a mild mannered and very family oriented man, he took great pride in his work, and I don't remember a single time when he judged anyone for anything. He rolled his eyes a lot when all 3 kids was teenagers at the same time, other than that he let ppl do whatever. He was raised atheist, and my parents raised us atheist
@@LinaGenXMargaret Sanger is such a good example, Catholic nurse who saw women beaten down by having baby after baby, living in squalor in New York slums. It went against what she believed in, but she was one of the founders of planned parenthood. Because she saw the cost to the women. That she later believed in eugenics is definitely one of those never meet your heroes moments but it wasn't the main factor
I think it is the cultural sexual repression that breeds more sexual abuse. If they're so pent-up sexually, they go more for easily available targets. In a culture where women and children are seen as property, they're natually the more likely targets, even when it's one's daughters being victimized and the sons, fathers and uncles doing the abusing.
@@pianoreignsit’s not up to you to decide how people label themselves. I love all of those things AND I am also (and have always been) 100% atheist. Your opinion on my beliefs carries no weight.
This woman is a true Mother and warrior! I'm greatful that she like my mother protected her children. She is a true warrior for children and for God and I pray he blesses her and her children with Peace, True love and abundance. 🙏🙏🙏💜💜
I've gone through year-long periods with continuous trauma and I understand how dark it can get, when things just keep coming. But to go through 3 years of what you describe... mama, your strength is unfathomable. I wish you and your children all the best ❤❤ them having one loving and supportive parent like you means the world of difference for their journey.
My heart breaks for Audrey and her children. She’s truly a wonderful woman and a wonderful mother, and I wish more parents worked as hard as she has to protect their kids. Sending so much love
This is a powerful interview. Amish are so often seen as meek and quiet, and they are incapable of such things. I'm grateful this lady stood up and not only walked away, but RAN from this horrific situation. Thanks so much for doing this. ❤
This business of holding girls responsible for the actions of adults is insane. And it sounds disturbingly close to how women are treated in certain countries where terrorism reigns and women and children are not protected. But it's also happening right under our North American noses. At the end of these interviews, I'm always split 50/50 between being broken hearted and really, really angry. Keep bringing these experiences to the public. What you're doing is very important. I wish Audrey all the best in the "free" world.
This is the consciousness part of this channel’s name. Getting the word out. Shining a bright light on it so little by little the tables can be turned. The perpetrators can be made to stop and pay for their wrongs. 🤞
Because extremist religion all looks the same eventually, especially when they have similar roots like Christianity and Islam. Watching people cry about Muslim women wearing hijab, but then turning around and telling a 7 year old girl she has to cover her shoulders so not to distract adult men, its the exact same. Put the emphasis on keeping the predators from children and vulnerable adults, not on the children or adult victims. Just to be clear, I'm not religious at all
Similar is happening in every fundamental religion is the US and around the world. Women and children are abused, and then, of course, blamed for their abuse.
@therealz360z7 Yeah I was watching an interview with a Muslim woman, British born to Egyptian parents, even she never really felt comfortable in Egypt in hijab. The men can be very creepy
My college roommate in the late 1980's came in to our dorm crying one day, after getting a call from her mom, and she told me her parents sold just about everything they owned and had decided to become mennonite. She was shocked . They pulled her out of College and I have no idea what happened with her after that. I hope she ended up finishing school and having a good life
That is so sad and awful. It really is too bad that that happened. She should have stayed in college, and just taken out a student loan, or gotten a job, or both. It is really awful that her parents did that to her, and it sucks that she didn't realize that there were other options, and as a college student, age 18+, she didn't have to leave and go with them. I wish that she had realized that. I hope she realized that she was an adult and they didn't really have any say and I hope she left for the sake of her own future.
The outside world has know idea this is all going on. I live in PA, I never heard this before. I am Horrified! Vote, please research the president candidates. One group wants to put women back in there place, the other want freedom for all.
Amazing, incredible story from the bravest woman I’ve seen in a very long time!! Congratulations on taking charge of your life, your family, and your future!! WOW!!! I’m SO PROUD of you!!
This woman is a tower of strength. An example for us all. Thanks for letting us have this chance to see a fuller picture. I was victim of Bahia and new agers. Mine was nothing in comparison, but it's given me an insight into religious mentalities. It is scary that something always claiming to do good, that it is needed yet will deny all. I know I will never get over the readiness to blindly accept their lies by the public.
Audrey, I hope for you an unending well of support and care and community. You are so incredibly strong and creative and I wish you had been given kindness instead of this nightmare, but thank you for standing up for your daughters. May your strength send ripples through those communities that allow more women to break free.
Hello Audrey, although I was having my doubts about the Amish community, I did not expect it to be this bad and barbaric. I salute you and your children for speaking up and especially for standing by you. May you all be blessed a hundredfold and may God give you the strength and comfort while healing you sll from your pain
This is true. I did not have a mother like her but I am thankful her kids had her as their mother. I don’t want any other kids going through what I went through.
I'm a newer subscriber and have listened to numerous episodes so far, and this one..holy crap. This is the first one that made me cry and was hard to get through. Probably because I have 2 daughters and I would absolutely go thru hell and back to protect them. They're my world. Audrey, you're a badass lady. I hope you and your kids continue to find peace and healing. 💜
Thanks for watching! Welcome to C2C! This was also one of my hardest to date. Audrey is a remarkable woman just like my mom and her story mirrored mine
So excited to be one of the first to see this. Thank you so much for everything you do! I ended up in a Christian Cult in college and it really has had negative effects on my life. I still to this day, 15 years later, can’t go to church because of it.
I hope your kids have healed and continue to. And that your baby girl who spent many years trying to unalive herself finds the absolute most amazing new life that helps her feel beyond greatful for surviving the darkest parts of her life.
I hope you and your children were able to get counseling. My father SA 4 of the 5 girls in our family. I'm sure my mom knew about it. Started when we were just very young children. Years later my mom still said.....Get over it ! I'm sick.of hearing about it !…. I made sure I got counseling. Years of it. Probably reason why 3 ofus 4 became drug addicts. Two have died due to drug use. It's called self medicating. Although my one sister who died young,did try to talk to a professional about it,and actually so did my oldest sister ( I just remembered that). She was instructed to write my mom a letter about how she felt about it ,etc. The letter asked my mom why she didn't stop our dad,protect us me My mom got so outraged she threw the letter away, blamed my sister ( as she did when first found out) and was cold to my sister and would hang up on her Everytime she called mom,even on Holidays. Once I realized my mom knew,and didn't bother to stop the SA by my dad, my relationship with her changed..Before she was everything to me. After that,the hurt of knowing she allowed it to happen for years,I've never fully gotten over. She's gone now,and I'm still so angry with her for not stopping him. We were 3 when it started..Continued thru teens with my oldest sister. I ran away as a teen. A really dysfunctional family with a Narcissist mom, and a Narcissist dad.
Audrey, you are such an amazingly brave and strong woman. The journey you and your children had to endure was unimaginable. I’m so glad you all escaped and are living the beautiful lives you all deserve. Much love and respect to you.
You are one terrific woman. I am in awe of you. Many things you talked about resonated with me and I wasn't born or lived Amish, but we lived in the country and were so sheltered. When I started my period, I never knew what it was and my mother threw a pad and a belt on the bed, slapped me on the back, and said, You're an old woman now and that was it. I didn't know what to do with it and I had to ask my sister. I didn't know my body parts either until I asked my husband. I have been recently diagnosed with PTSD from my childhood and I am 68 yrs old and have so many things that happened in my so-called childhood, that I have violent walking nightmares. I wish you and your family the very best.
Not only is it the perpetrators family all standing behind him, that = the victims family standing against them. Absolutely disgusting. This Mama Bear's strength is immeasurable ♡ So admirable ♡ So beyond happy to hear that her kids are doing so well now ♡
Badass momma . Thank you for telling your story. Thank you for advocating for your beautiful babies and taking on the hell you endured … to stop this cycle and run after healing and joy.
Audrey speaking about this must be so difficult. Thank you for your bravery and love. I am keeping y'all in my prayers and pray for the best in y'all's healing journey. Y'all are helping so many heal. Many blessings to you.
You are a great and strong woman. You should be very proud of how you protected your children. The fundamentalist societies that place all the blame on the women are creating the abusers. Yes, people have sexual thoughts but obsessing every minute that women are trying to tempt them, they teach girls to be ashamed, they teach boys to think those thoughts are girls' fault and they create adults who complete those viscous circles by spending their days obsessing about how women are trying to lead them astray.
These kind of things have leaked into the Mennonite circles as well, with the women having to do so much to keep the men pure. Downcast eyes, high necklines, full skirts, no pullover sweaters only cardigans,..... Fortunately there ARE good churches out there that upholds godly living. For anyone who's thinks the plain churches are all peaceful and holy, they are NOT!!!
It's not only the Amish! My ex, a Lutheran Brethren (Synod, Fergus Falls, MN), though we lived in ND at the time, raped all three of my daughters. I was *shunned* and abused by the whole synod, the countries surrounding where we lived--and, he got off scott-free! He got away without paying child-support. And, ND Courts gave him all holidays and vacations, including Mother's Day! And, when my girls didn't want to go with their dad, the Courts threatened to put me in jail! Wow! However, though not Amish, all the other manifestations this woman relates was applied, Bill Gothard was big (Basic Youth Confliths); courting, devotions, first night--and, boy, 'the woman is responsible, as mentioned here, for the purity before marriage and his satisfaction afterward (even if he was impotent, figured out anger can be used instead of arousal, which makes all encounters rape)... Oh, man! I suffer CPTSD. These people can absolutely destroy lives!
I just cant fathom what you and your family went through. I applaud your bravery. I was going to vacation in Pennsylvania because of the amish, but not anymore.
I watched a show, True crime Daily. A Amish girl is raped and pregnant by her brothers. She also was stalked and terrorized by her community. They showed up to support the brothers in court. The abuse this girls survived was amazing. Her story is similar to this one. Graphic too!
I am so proud of all who are finally coming out of all the horrindous abuse actually EVERYWHERE! Thank you for your warrior survival. Least you stood your ground. Thank you so so much. You are a blessing and always know you are free now,you are helping so many people. You are a blessing from Divine Universe to help. You are an angel sent to help OTHER'S! It's not just the Amish cult. Love and light and shunning helps the escape. Thank you to bring enlightenment to the world. The memories stay only they become a weapon and survival mode with so many blessings.
Audrey, I want to hug you! As a survivour of ab*se, SA, and IPV as well as a former legal professional, you absolutely did right by your kids. A plea agreement in this case is success. I'm so glad your kids have such an amazing mother! I wish you and your kids peace, comfort, and joy ❤
I read a book a long time ago about the sexual abuse of Amish girls. It was the writers story. I was so sad for her and heartbroken for her. I have never viewed the Amish the same since. I am sure there are some good groups out there but there are many that are not. God bless you for fighting for your kids and for yourself.
“They couldnt process their own internal reality so in turn they were unable to process ours.” …. Wow…. The grace and generosity of such a perspective!
Thank you sooo much to Cults to Consiousness for bringing out this stories and creating awareness in our society! ❤ What an amazing and important work!
Yes this happens outside Amish communities. Like going through hurricanes, with a few tornados tossed in. My condolences, and your handling of this was amazing. What strength and grit, and grace.
Thought all of this only happened to girls in my tribe in Nigeria...and in my own home growing up. Comforting to know that we are not alone in all of this. Hard to know how to personally feel though. The trauma runs extremely deep. Even at 60 years of age. Thank you for speaking up
You are amazing. I have no words to say how awesome you are for doing what you did and for surviving what you did. And your children are so lucky they had you - as someone who left a cultish, high demand religion myself, I wish my mother had been able to understand and comprehend and hear what I went through - so I send you so much love Audrey.
My stepfather sexually abused all of us children from a very young age. When my mother found out she packed us all in her car and left. My mother never forgave herself but the fact she was our savior, never questioning our truths was instrumental in our healing. I became a Sexual Assault Counselor helping others through their trauma.
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God Bless You, your Siblings, and your Mom!
Wow! That's amazing! Good for you. ❤
There is no personal truth, just THE truth.
Speaking of “our” truth helps destroying the meaning of “truth”.
Years ago I asked the volunteer coordinator for the rape center in Lancaster, PA if they ever got calls from Mennonite and Amish girls. “Are you kidding? 86% of our calls are from Mennonite and Amish girls about their fathers, their uncles, their brothers, and even their grandfathers.” This woman deserves so much praise and respect for standing with her children through such horrific terrorizing. Bless you and your children, Audrey.
WOW! 86%...yeah, I knew that that went on in Amish / Mennonite circles, but I had no idea it was THAT high. With numbers like that, there are a couple of Amish grocery stores near me that also make excellent sandwiches that I've always loved. But with statistics like that, huh-uh. No more.
Something about the reporter smiling through all this..
@fredmckinney8933 It doesn't mean 86% of Amish and Mennonite communities are abusers, it's 86% of the total calls they recive...
@@daniby9894l agree. It also depends on the actual number they were seeing. Not that any number is good for this kind of thing. 😢
I am so grateful for this interview. I am in awe of this brave mother and the love she has and demonstrated to her children. She has broken a generational cycle and curse. She has given hope to others going through the same. Blessings this lioness and her cubs ❤
This woman fought her entire world to protect her children. Absolutely incredible. Thankfully the justice system, law enforcement, and child protective services was able to back her up. Her children were incredibly brave. I wish them the absolute best for their futures.
What a evil lot of people who created this type of living.Its someone's imagination to live this kind of lifestyle.Demon possessed people who are controlled by lust and devils.Thank God he got her out of this evil cult.
"America 🇺🇸 is the number one purchaser of child sex" (Sound of Freedom) Most officials do zero.
I have been learning this by reading the Quran, how damaging and prevalent it's in Islam:
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the Quran instructs the males to be paedophiles: and with babies:
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IT IS SO HEARTBREAKING, ESPECIALLY IN TOTAL ISLAMIC COUNTRIES:
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Many religions are similar behind the scenes and some are even worse HOWEVER...one of the reasons deceitful,chaotic ,modern day Government, ENJOY ridiculing these faults of these people is to hide their own guilty in government and the Protestant and Catholic people...and to destroy the noble intent of good people and take away their Functional ability to build their own children and healthy grandchildren... And promote sheeple world Wide who disrespect integrity of Nature and replace it with the. Noise of stupid people and culture's...all over our Western World !!!
Terrible suffering, the lady & her precious children went through, but thank God who freed them! I have a lot of admiration & respect for the lady- surely her resolve & tenacity to achieve freedom, if not full justice, was used by God! I've never been able to digest the depravity of the human heart that is bent on covering injustice.So sad that those Amish made the girls think Church is the worst place, & probably that God is not the wonderful Person He really is.I pray for this family to know the real God.
What Audrey said about romanticizing the culture struck home to me. I grew up in Michigan, where the Amish were not all that unusual, but it's just the touristy stuff you are allowed to see. Pretty quilts and home made jams. You hear about the barn-raisings and see the horse and carriages ambling along the side of the road, and everyone looks so peaceful and happy. The fact that the man of the house might knock his wife and kids around or molest his daughters is the last thing that would occur to you. Thank you for raising awareness.
There's an Amish "prison" near Edmore, Michigan. At least there used to be.
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exactly, as they present God loving, God fearing., I respected the neighbors i have and also "wanted to be like them or romanticized", as it is a hard way of life, but very simple. Knowing her story and now others, shows yet again, then men never take responsibility for all the pain, trauma and heart ache they cause. She is so brave to leave and be shunned ect. I no longer will be doing business or driving my neighbors any more , now that i know what really goes on behind closed doors, as when i did drive them there were tiny subtle signs, but until you see stories of women who left or tell what really happened then you really don't know because again they quote scripture and are god loving god fearing people. I'm glad i know the truth now and i just pray that 1 day law enforcement will help the women and the women 1 day will have the chance to save themselves and their children! My new prayer for these communities is that the men really find God and stop abusing their women, ( and children), and my other prayer is that the cycle ends. I will pray that women will find new ways to learn what is abuse and what is real love!
@@lgspeical7879You mentioned that you drive them & that you now going to stop because of the Deceitfulness behind this society. Had me thinking that maybe your act of kindness might be seen as an escape route for a woman or child knowing you are allowed to be in the area. Of course I may have misunderstood but if I was trapped and I saw how there might be an unsuspecting means of getting out - like hiding in the trunk or back seat of a vehicle that’s been seen as acceptable outsider. I would watch to find that as a possibility of escape. Like I said I may have misunderstood…
@@lgspeical7879 may I point out ,the governments foster care system is even more barbaric than the religious people who create thru trauma brothers and sisters...who because of catatonic infant memory cannot challenge an incorrect mother or father . ..the muscle 💪💪 cannot respond to the good judgement of the victims mind...
This woman was so strong and so brave. I'm in absolute awe. She's such a warrior.
I am the wife of the guy that this phone is under...Audrey you are a very strong woman to have endure such a traumatic life. Not all Amish communities are like the ones you lived in. So sorry for you n your children. My Mom' s uncle was a molester that went to his grave with it never being exposed. I could write you a story but not enough time n room. I can't blame you for getting away. My question is...how was the Bishop allowed to hire an attorney???? I thought they didn't go to the law?
They couldn ´t crash her spirit no matter how hard they tried. The worst nightmare. She is a heroine, a feminist and a wonderful rolemodel
@@samuelbontrager-br7iethank you… they use the law when it suits them…
Raising your children like that, not allowing them an opinion, creates the "perfect" prey for perpetrators. It's sickening.
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I agree with this statement. We teach our girls to have one.
I remember once going on a rare outing with the church youth group. (Baptist) At a stop the woman chaperoning us opened a cooler filled with cans of soda. She asked me what my favorite kind of soda was. I honestly had no idea how to answer because I had never considered that I was allowed to have a favorite let alone a choice.
My gram was Amish (left them) and I work with a lot of Amish. As an HR person, I had to deal with a sexual harassment case of one Amish man against many young Amish girls. It was initially covered up by the Amish plant manager until I finally found out. The most disgusting part is that the Amish manager’s daughter was also a victim of the perp and her dad still ignored it! I’m so glad you are outing the Amish as the cult they are.
Wonderful family in some areas,good workers,however very deceitful, paranoid,and very similar problems to old order Mennonites in pa...bad inbred Blood???I would know I have identical Blond Hair...becomes yellow 🟡 in the sun ... 😆
They believe women are chattel...
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Audrey, thank you for being a Mom who didn't look the other way but instead, stood up for your children and brought them to safely. Thank you for putting them first. I will pray for you and your family❤ for continued healing. May God Bless you and keep you safe!!! Amen
She made me cry. Amazing woman. God bless her.
I was friends as a child with Audrey's daughters while they lived in PA. My family has gone through a somewhat similar situation to theirs, and ended up reconnecting during the pandemic as both of our families were going through court trials. Audrey was an awesome support for specifically my mom during my family's court process, and so from experience, I know how strong and brave she is. I'm so grateful that both our families are safe now and working through healing, and I'm so glad that Audrey's able to share her story so people are aware how much goes on behind closed doors in the Plain community. Plain communities are so romanticized to the extent that folks refuse to believe horrible things happen, so this type of advocacy is so very important.
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Your daughter who came to you and asked the first question, is such a strong character. She had no role model before her, but she found the courage in her heart to go to her mother. I want to credit her here, for w/o her bravery initially, who knows what might have become of you and your children, not to mention future generations of your progeny.
The daughter did have *one* amazing role model in her own mom 🥰
I cannot express how inspired I am by you. To raise 5 children while dealing with these legal battles, harassment, your own trauma, and the mental health of your kids. How? I know you must look back and don’t know how you survived, but you did. You’re an extraordinary human ❤
You are extraordinary Audrey ❤
Shit, when even the defense attorney’s like “he did it, please do not make me do my job” you know it’s gotta be real bad 😬 incredibly strong woman, and thank you for standing up for your children, from a child who didn’t have that kind of mom
I'm never sure how defence lawyers justify it, obviously a key part of the justice system is that everyone is entitled to defence. But for truly horrendous crimes I'm not sure how you do it
@@nickywal,they leave their morals at the door when they graduate!
@@thomastolbert6184Not all do, but like teachers the ones that really care and want to help get beaten down fast.
that was manipulation on the part o f the attorney. he could have said no, i won't represent you to the guy.
@@katherenewedic8076 Unless he was court appointed.
I’m so grateful for her testimony and authenticity about her experiences. I went through something so very similar with my ex husband who was a narcissistically abusive husband and father. He used my children as pawns in his never ending plan to remove my six children from me. I was blessed to have plenty of support from my family and friends who helped me with court costs for my divorce and custody battle. He didn’t want his children, he just didn’t want me to have them. They are grown now and have received and continue to receive the therapy they need. 18 years later and we are all doing better, but the scars are deep. This video was so helpful! Never give up!
Never give in! We are stronger than we realize🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
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Shelise, I know that other people have said this before but you are such a caring interviewer. You manage to help people tell their stories without prying. It's so nice to watch these interviews because you don't make them about you, you give them an opportunity to share what they want to share.
I said the same thing!!! She has a genuine talent for this. So much compassion and such a safe space.
Thank you so much for saying that. It means a lot that people see my intention of creating a safe space. ❤️ I also do an extensive call beforehand so I know what they are and are not comfortable speaking on, just to make sure I don’t bring something up they aren’t ready for. It’s definitely a team effort 😊
@@CultstoConsciousness well done 👍
@@CultstoConsciousness it really shows and I'm sure that that care really helps your guests. It also really helps people watching. Because even when the subject matter is really difficult, it's clear that the guest is enthusiastically consenting to sharing what they're sharing and the intent is to make the world better, not some kind of voyeurism. I grew up in a church that can be described as "off". Off enough that I'm almost 40 and still unwinding it all, knowing that I'm not alone is really healing.
@@CultstoConsciousness That's actually really neat that you do a call beforehand to get to know each other and seek out what they are comfortable with sharing. Thanks for not putting anyone on the spot but also giving a safe space.
As a father of five children and twelve grandchildren, I could never ever think of doing that to my family. It never crossed my mind period! People, that is pure evil no matter the culture. There are no words available to heap upon a so called father that does that to his children or anyone else. These aren’t fathers, these are just plain evil men not worthy of the air to breath. Remember fathers there will be a judgement day so stop assaulting your children!
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This guilt of women of seduction of men is very similar to ultra-traditional Islam.
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@@asilah3164not ultra. The quran says the mayorety of women are made for hell. That says it all
I couldn't listen to this all in one go.I thought I was in a better plac re mt own SA. I know you gave a trigger warning but stories like these trigger me ..... I am also a victim of SA and exactly a week ago I was at his funeral. I went to free myself and let it be buried with him. Well .... Easier said than done. I was not in a cult, but I was in a church that never addressed abuse of any kind We found out about a decade ago that he is my dad's half brother. At the funeral I did the math and concluded he was the product of an affair my grandfather had. I have yet to encounter a religious group that openly speaks up against abuse
Audrey, you are a BOSS. I’m so so sorry for all you’ve been through. It is NOT your fault and you are an angel for fighting for your kids and protecting them from evil. THEY are wrong and YOU are right. Please don’t ever doubt that for a second. ❤
What kind of father rapes his own daughter? I'm so sorry this happened to you. You're a strong woman!
Is there a punishment/consequence for rape today? Do you want there to be?
Many men outside of the religious culture are unable or unwilling to control themselves.
Something needs to be done.
I'm a christian, but sorry to say, it happens a lot within the religious culture too. there is going to be a bunch of it come to light in the near future too. @@Cat54867
There aren't people with souls. These are depraved psychopaths. I hope that helps you better understand.
A sick, depraved individual with no conscience!
Those men stopped being fathers.
This woman is so amazing! What a great mother and beautiful spirit💗
This woman is the best mother I have ever seen. Her kids are the luckiest babies. This is 1 of the best interviews I’ve seen on your page. Good job both of you ❤
To Audrey: THANK YOU. Thank you for listening to your children, for taking them seriously, for being immensely brave, for breaking the cycle. My own SA experience was at the hands of an LDS church elder, who's wife refused to acknowledge what was happening even though it was happening to her own daughters, too. She asked us why we can't just let it go. My own mother, although she took action eventually as I attempt to seek justice these days, did not attempt to press charges or pursue anything, caving to pressure to change wards instead. Even though I finally got her to talk about it, for nearly 30 years of my life, she just tried to pretend it never happened and actively avoided the topic or any responsibility for how it was handled. I'm sure you know well the frustration from your own situation, so I just want to say it again: Thank you.
I am sorry that happened to you with one of your ward church leaders . I was SA by 2 men when I was young they were members of a church, I told my mom ,she swept it under the rug. It has taken me years to realize back then it wasn't talked about. Oh yes it needed to be . But women were still just getting to be heard in America. Now we have a voice we need to use it. Every religion has their SA person but it's not about what their Religion their Gospel is all about. Shame on that man and those that swept it under the rug. They will answer for it some day . Sorry the SA happened to you.
Audrey , I’m so sorry to hear this! I am also an Amish woman who has been abused . But I have an amazing Amish husband and friends who are not remaining silent for the sins of the Amish . Lancaster county PA Amish have a lot of people that are willing to take a stand ! They have even been there for me when my brothers and Dad say they have done no wrong it’s what every brother and Dad may do ! And yes we have also reported them. But like you said they police refuse to put them in prison.But God has remained so faithful in my life , I feel his presence every day. Praying for you and your family.
Audrey wow. Im an old mama now,im a grandmother, 56. But i totally love how you stood up for and behind your children. Especially in that circumstance. It took unimaginable strength,and will. Im sorry any of you experienced that type of horror. Its a testament to your love that you all have come through the others side. I can tell you,as a long time dv and sa survivor myself, that talking about it,and helping others who have gone through similar experiences is one thing that has really helped me personally. Sending you all much love ❤
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What a strong woman, and a strong example for other people to take a stand ❤
I came from a cult , but a polygamous one.
The sexual abuse, control and brain washing is unreal.
Thanks for sharing and good luck on your healing journey...
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@CultstoConsciousness I can put you in contact with a wonderful organization whose mission is helping people "escape" from Amish control & make a life in the outside world.
Are there no laws in the US (the American dream and all that jazz???) to put such criminals in jail . Or is there an amendment that is protective of such evil cultic practices?
Do not understand why women follow these rules and get abused. They should leave
This woman is amazing. I’m so glad she listened to her kids and took action.
I know Audrey and I’m blessed to call her a friend. She’s beautiful in every single way and I look up to her! Can’t wait to hug you Audrey, proud of you!
For anyone else who is a Christian, please know that having a mental illness is not an indication that you are a bad Christian. You deserve whatever medical care and therapy you need as well as any spiritual support.
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Amen from me, too.
Well our country and many others started with natural spiritual connection to nature & humans beings until that connection was replaced with Christianity. Christianity was used to conquer/divide, kill ,steal, and destroy. Here we are today divided, stressed,overworked,judgmental,untrustworthy,mental health of right is wrong /wrong as right being feed to us,when really everyone just want to hold on and make another day
Thank you to this lady for having the courage to speak up❤.
This religion just like muslins religion how sad I feel sorry for the women in those religions.
@@manouchkaberus and also the kids!
A female is not responsible for a males lack of control. Period.
That's for sure, I just wish some how someone could help me.
I've never been in such a horrific situation like this
No one not even the police will help me.
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As a man who strives to be someone people can trust, it ANGERS me when ANYONE holds the attitude that men aren't capable of controlling themselves. In Matthew 5:27-28, note how Jesus placed ALL of the blame for lust on men and NONE on women.
@@fredmckinney8933 Yes - men are capable and not only that - they good caring perons. Whenever there is a group which says men are incapable of self control - it´s always established by psychopat who is participating in sexual abuse. Be it this group or Islam, or tuns of other cults. Then he dies and group inherits his insanity and skewed views of both men and women and abuse continues...
After enduring years of abuse myself, I thought I’d found my Prince Charming. Everything I did in my life was to protect my children, he knew that. Thirteen years later, my children came to me with the accusations against him. I immediately believed them. We all loved him, the kids would not have made it up. It absolutely broke me. I ended up in the mental hospital a year after the report, and weeks after he plead guilty. Those years are like a blank, it’s just like a blur. Somehow I got a job, went back to school, dealt with damaged children and started counseling. He only got 10 years adjudication. He never even saw the inside of a cell - he reported to police booking with an attorney and bail bondsman. He arrest was front page news in our little town (the kids & I had a different last name). No one from our church ever called me, no note of sympathy, not even the pastor came by or called. Some people even avoided me at Walmart or community events. What he did was the ultimate betrayal. I was so angry, hurt, guilt ridden, and just plain sad for a long time, but finally had to let it go so I could move forward. I’ve never remarried, don’t even date, and don’t trust anyone. I’m glad to see how many here who have experienced what have, were able to move forward and heal.
I'm sorry for the tough experiences you've gone through. ...and your kids.
I want to salute your strength and courage in being there for your children.
I'm sorry that no one reached out in support.
Personally, I believe in karma, and karmically, your husband didn't get away with anything karmically. He'll have to be accountable at some point. I believe that in the end, it all balances out. But it doesn't always happen before our eyes.
You are a beautiful, radiant soul!
Know that!
Sending you out tons of love. Please keep finding support and commeraderie in places like this - so you know you're not alone. Because you're not alone.
Take care of you.
Make this year ahead a special one!
Wishing loads of great things for you and your kids!
When I worked in SA prevention, one thing I learnt that sustains me is that the first necessary step toward survival and recovery is having someone believe you and see you. So much better if it’s your mother. I also had a lousy marriage, although nothing as colossally toxic as what you endured, and lost my ability to trust. At 59 I met a real human man who proved to me that good men exist. That is only my story, and I have endless respect for your decisions and what you need on your journey, but life is a funny thing, and grace can find you unexpectedly…
As a survivor myself, I know how exhausting this important sharing is. I wish us all a quiet heart and an easy rest. ❤
I honestly do not have the words to explain how much your story of your life and those of your children truly touched me .Your strength as a human is incredible ,your strength as a woman is remarkable ,may your future be your best life ever.Sending much love to you and your remarkable children ❤ .
It’s been a long time since a podcast has literally brought me to tears, but this one really broke my heart.
I can only imagine, as a mother, how mentally and emotionally broken I would be after finding out that the man I married, and had trusted my babies with, had violated and betrayed my trust AND violated my children and broken their hearts as well. As parents, we are given to guilt so easily for so many reasons because we want so much to protect our children in the best way we know how! What a strong woman she is, to have had to overcome so much adversity in her childhood, and then to have to overcome even more adversity as a mom and wife. What an incredible woman, and what a heartbreaking, but also triumphant, journey her life has been.
Don't ever regret leaving . You are a brave, young mother. Kudos for standing up for your children and taking them out of that situation. It takes an extraordinary courage to do what you did. Your children in turn, will respect and take care of you later in life. You are teaching them, and sending the rest of the Amish community a clear message, that what happened is wrong, and it should be addressed and punish accordingly. As hard as it was , it is all worth it for you and the children. God bless you and your children and help you heal from all that negative experience and trauma.
Ugh, as an ex-muslim I can see so many similarities. Islam is often seen as something exotic and abuse is often excused with "it's their culture". But just like with the Amish, it's rooted in fundamentalist patriarchal religion. It would be wonderful if you could talk to an ex-muslim woman. Yasmeen Mohammad for instance.
Thank you for that suggestion!
@@CultstoConsciousness You're welcome!
Exactly.
I'm Kenyan, and this month, there is an event organized by some Muslims (mostly women), the event seeks to explain that "polygamy is good".
They talk about it like it's a solution to all marital problems!!
I remember one quote being about "polygamy isn't about sharing a husband; its about every woman having a husband".
I have nothing against marriage, but they make it seem like having a husband defines a good woman. There's a lot that isn't spoken about Islam, maybe because people defend them a lot.
@@AJansenNLalso, the Kafala system has been abused into enslaving people (especially non-muslims). Its a lot!!
@jullietmburu9672 My ex thought it his right to marry a second wife. It was his solution to our marital problems and my resulting 'coldness'. Did I mention he is my ex? I can say that jokingly, because I have a lot of white Western privilege, but most Muslim women are not so fortunate.
Great show! I pray for complete healing in all those hurting people. Thanks for fighting for your kids n believing them!
What an extraordinary women. It’s hard to believe that she is able to smile at all after hearing about her life. Audrey on a Harley is a terrific way to thumb her nose at the many despicable people she has had to endure. A beautiful momma bear. Shelise, you are an amazing, compassionate person that extends a gentle, helping hand to all of your guests. Blessings. ❤
I absolutely want to thank you with all my heart for this magnificent interview I grew up in a overtly, horrific religious home. It took me many years until I was in my 40s to finally free myself from the scars the religious scars, the abuse, the emotional and verbal abuse, and now being an educator and a teacher, I pass my wisdom onto my children that I teach and the beautiful people that I have in my life.
Thank you to this extraordinary Amish woman who is so brave to come forward and bear the pain of what she endured to make a stand for her True Center and honesty. I cried through most of it, but I was so deeply touched at the integrity and the honesty of the program and I want to thank you so much may many, many people profit from this beautiful interview as I did. Thank you so much, I pray that many people were healed by this! And to this former Amish woman who writes her Harley motorcycle I drive an FJ cruiser, so I resonate with you a lot you are an extraordinarily beautiful woman and didn’t we become much stronger after all the pain?!
Throwing the piano in a ravine is horrifying. Her parents should have encouraged her talent.
And it makes no sense at all. Hello $$$$?
Never understood why the crazies of religiousity toss perfectly good items away or worse, burn them. Greg Locke's ppl burned an antique clock in one of their stupid bonfires. The waste of good items and talent among religious nutter-butters is just insane to me.
Horrifying. My Mom and Gram encouraged my talent and I was able to pursue a degree in Piano Performance. I also directed a Music Ministry for many years. It was all God and no religion. Beautiful.
That's what you take away as horrifying in this reality???
That's my reaction and I think I'm right.@@jenniferdobransky5240
Wow I am just blown away by how courageous this woman is. I am truly in awe of her strength. I’m so glad your kids have you and I’m so sorry that no one was there for you when you were younger. You have shown so much bravery time and time standing up to these monsters and continuing to share your story. I have no doubt that this is will inspire others and hopefully lead to change. Growing up I often saw the Amish portrayed as good, wholesome people but I knew there had to be some darkness lurking in there. I was born and raised in Mississippi around a lot of intense evangelical christian communities and churches. I can’t stand people who use religion to control and abuse others. I have yet to see an extreme religious group not be guilty of harming its followers. It’s tough balancing the freedom of religion and these extremist groups but more definitely needs to be done. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I hope you and your family are able to heal and find peace and happiness 💜
She was in an extreme extreme group. All Amish have some of these problems, but this new order Amish group is not the normal Amish group. Also her family was messed up too. Not all are like this
There should be more pressure to regulate these sects and cults, they shouldn't be allowed to make their own rules and laws, these usually leads to horrible abuse
Who would regulate them though? I trust those in government little more than the leaders in groups like these. Sadly, most people attracted to positions of power are selfish and narcissistic. Governments with too much control also become abusive.
I agree with you, except the 1st amendment says freedom of religion. But I agree with you. I wish we didn't have these high demand religions and cults.
@@calinasagilitypartner4444They are supposed to still obey the laws. Freedom of religion only means freedom to religious activities that don’t break the national and state laws. But, in practice, cults are getting away with insane things because the government is lax on enforcing laws on religious groups.
@@calinasagilitypartner4444 Freedom of religion sort of stops at human trafficking, physical abuse, sexual abuse, financial abuse, exploitation, theft, fraud, and a whole host of other issues. And if the Christian Conservative sects whine about it - should probably remind them that even their own holy book says to "Render onto Caesar what is Caesar's" - or in other words - worship but still obey the laws of the land.
To be fair though, the founding fathers didn't even want religious organizations to be able to own property or obtain wealth. I think we honestly need to enforce that.
Even if they tried to enforce the law they have high power lawyer out the butt and the support of the English community which they live.
They tried to get them to put reflectors on there buggy’s one time but when they confiscated the buggy’s the English people bought them and gave them back
Im so glad that she was here in Pennsylvania and had an amazing lawyer! I hear ao many people bash my state, but there are so many good things like Audrey's lawyer. Im so in awe of Audrey's strength and fighting spirit to be there for herself and her kids. I'm so proud of you, Audrey! Keep on, keeping on!
I used to work for a home infusion company. I had to speak the parents of a toddler going home on iv antibiotics after being hospitalized due to being kicked by a horse. The father got on the phone as the head of his family and as soon as he heard i was a woman on the phone he refused to listen to a word i said and made me speak to his wife. That was all i needed to know about amish mens feelings about women.
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I have never thought I’ll of the Amish until the last few years as I have been learning some of the things the men get up to and get away with. I’m very sorry if this is just a small percentage of bad apples. The problem with that is, the ones who are not perpetrators, at least in some level are the enablers. When I see what they do to their animals. Even THAT is enough to make my blood boil. I have seen the crippled and suffering horses (and I LOVE horses!). My God, that’s enough to make me want to invoke Moses’ law of an eye for an eye. Even if they didn’t harm women and children. The animals being mistreated would be enough for me to be so angry. Then add in what these men have done to their own wives, daughters and sons! How many generations has this been festering??? We all need to rally behind brave women like Audrey and help it be an easier option to get the people out who need and want to get out! I see groups that are trying to rescue the horses, but more needs to be done to turn this stuff around. Save the women, children and horses before they are so broken.
It's how THAT man felt about women. I hope the child was safe, at least.
Shameful abuse of woman!
Some prosperity Chrisians sadly say this. You shouldn't be sick especially not have any form of mental health issues or problems.
I've seen what happens to some of the horses that are betrayed & sold to slaughter after serving an Amish family. It is disappointing.
Thank you both!
Great interview!
Shocking. That is animal abused.
True.
The abuse is shocking.
Poor animals worked to the edge of death and dumped.
Cruel culture.
Women with no power, and men with their boot on the neck of the women and female children works out great- right?
Patriarchy with no guardrails.
I have been somewhat in her shoes. It is the hardest thing to comprehend that your (mine) ex-spouse has/have molested children and yours etc. It's really hard to deal with the aftermath of the abuse and be abused for sticking up for your (my) children. Others just don't understand. I am in PA as well and completely feel for her pain. Much love to her and proud of this mom.
I'm so so sorry 🙏🏾🙏🏾🫂🫂🫂
I hope you find peace through it all 💐💐
@@jullietmburu9672 Thank you.
I’m so sorry for what you and your children have been through ❤️ I can barely imagine how hard that must have been 😔 I’m sending you lots of love and strength ❤️
I’m really sorry about your experiences.
I wish I had a mom like you! You are a super mom.I was physically, verbally and emotionally abused by my father. My mom would just watch and not say a word. As an adult I confronted her about this and she just told me that I was crazy and I deserved the physical punishment because I caused trouble as a preteen and teen. She blamed me!!! Having your mom's love and protection is so important and now I am 50 and realize that I have never had that and never will. You feel like you have something missing from your soul for life.
I understand the empty feeling- there’s no way to describe the loss of love and safety from a mother. There’s no replacement.
I am Catholic and of course our religion has its own molestation history. My husband didn't go to church but he was brought up Methodist. So we decided to go to a local Methodist church together. First service, the Pastor said that abortion was a sin and that the blood of that child is on the girl's hands. I was so pissed I was struggling to stay seated. After the service, I went through the reception line and said to the pastor, "I hope you realize that the blood of that child is also on the boys hands". He said nothing. I gave him a week. I went back the next Sunday to see if he recanted anything he said. He did not, and I never returned to that church to hear his misogynistic word! Now I worry what garbage he went onto spew into young children's minds. It seems like the Amish are grooming the boys to be overly sexual and the girls to take responsibility. I am so sorry for the deviency that you have experienced.
Norwegian here. A few years ago an American Facebook friend asked on Facebook what kind of monsters performed abortions. I told her it was normal people like my dad. My dad was an OB-GYN and in the 70s and 80s he worked in major hospitals here in Norway. It was part of his job, just like deliverling babies was. Lster he opened his own practice, and abortions are by law done in hospitals here, at his private practice he referred women to hospitals to have abortions. I asked my dad about his views on it once, his answer was his opinion did'nt matter, the only person qualified to decide was the pregnant woman. My dad was a mild mannered and very family oriented man, he took great pride in his work, and I don't remember a single time when he judged anyone for anything. He rolled his eyes a lot when all 3 kids was teenagers at the same time, other than that he let ppl do whatever. He was raised atheist, and my parents raised us atheist
@@LinaGenXMargaret Sanger is such a good example, Catholic nurse who saw women beaten down by having baby after baby, living in squalor in New York slums. It went against what she believed in, but she was one of the founders of planned parenthood. Because she saw the cost to the women. That she later believed in eugenics is definitely one of those never meet your heroes moments but it wasn't the main factor
I think it is the cultural sexual repression that breeds more sexual abuse. If they're so pent-up sexually, they go more for easily available targets. In a culture where women and children are seen as property, they're natually the more likely targets, even when it's one's daughters being victimized and the sons, fathers and uncles doing the abusing.
@@LinaGenXReligion is not God. Your Dad sounds terrific. If you love nature or music or babies; you are not atheist.
@@pianoreignsit’s not up to you to decide how people label themselves. I love all of those things AND I am also (and have always been) 100% atheist. Your opinion on my beliefs carries no weight.
This woman is a true Mother and warrior! I'm greatful that she like my mother protected her children. She is a true warrior for children and for God and I pray he blesses her and her children with Peace, True love and abundance. 🙏🙏🙏💜💜
I've gone through year-long periods with continuous trauma and I understand how dark it can get, when things just keep coming. But to go through 3 years of what you describe... mama, your strength is unfathomable. I wish you and your children all the best ❤❤ them having one loving and supportive parent like you means the world of difference for their journey.
The cycle of abuse needs to STOP!
All of the best withes to Audrey and her children, you deserve the world ❤
My heart breaks for Audrey and her children. She’s truly a wonderful woman and a wonderful mother, and I wish more parents worked as hard as she has to protect their kids. Sending so much love
This is a powerful interview. Amish are so often seen as meek and quiet, and they are incapable of such things. I'm grateful this lady stood up and not only walked away, but RAN from this horrific situation. Thanks so much for doing this. ❤
This business of holding girls responsible for the actions of adults is insane. And it sounds disturbingly close to how women are treated in certain countries where terrorism reigns and women and children are not protected. But it's also happening right under our North American noses. At the end of these interviews, I'm always split 50/50 between being broken hearted and really, really angry. Keep bringing these experiences to the public. What you're doing is very important. I wish Audrey all the best in the "free" world.
This is the consciousness part of this channel’s name. Getting the word out. Shining a bright light on it so little by little the tables can be turned. The perpetrators can be made to stop and pay for their wrongs. 🤞
Because extremist religion all looks the same eventually, especially when they have similar roots like Christianity and Islam. Watching people cry about Muslim women wearing hijab, but then turning around and telling a 7 year old girl she has to cover her shoulders so not to distract adult men, its the exact same. Put the emphasis on keeping the predators from children and vulnerable adults, not on the children or adult victims. Just to be clear, I'm not religious at all
Neither am I. Spiritual yes, religious-definitely not. @@nickywal
Similar is happening in every fundamental religion is the US and around the world. Women and children are abused, and then, of course, blamed for their abuse.
@therealz360z7 Yeah I was watching an interview with a Muslim woman, British born to Egyptian parents, even she never really felt comfortable in Egypt in hijab. The men can be very creepy
My college roommate in the late 1980's came in to our dorm crying one day, after getting a call from her mom, and she told me her parents sold just about everything they owned and had decided to become mennonite. She was shocked . They pulled her out of College and I have no idea what happened with her after that. I hope she ended up finishing school and having a good life
That is so sad and awful. It really is too bad that that happened. She should have stayed in college, and just taken out a student loan, or gotten a job, or both. It is really awful that her parents did that to her, and it sucks that she didn't realize that there were other options, and as a college student, age 18+, she didn't have to leave and go with them. I wish that she had realized that. I hope she realized that she was an adult and they didn't really have any say and I hope she left for the sake of her own future.
The outside world has know idea this is all going on. I live in PA, I never heard this before. I am Horrified! Vote, please research the president candidates. One group wants to put women back in there place, the other want freedom for all.
Amazing, incredible story from the bravest woman I’ve seen in a very long time!! Congratulations on taking charge of your life, your family, and your future!! WOW!!! I’m SO PROUD of you!!
Hi Audrey, I’m proud of you. Thanks for sharing your story. God bless your family!
An incredibly moving interview. So happy that Audrey got justice for herself and her children.
This woman is a tower of strength. An example for us all. Thanks for letting us have this chance to see a fuller picture. I was victim of Bahia and new agers. Mine was nothing in comparison, but it's given me an insight into religious mentalities. It is scary that something always claiming to do good, that it is needed yet will deny all. I know I will never get over the readiness to blindly accept their lies by the public.
Audrey, I hope for you an unending well of support and care and community. You are so incredibly strong and creative and I wish you had been given kindness instead of this nightmare, but thank you for standing up for your daughters. May your strength send ripples through those communities that allow more women to break free.
God Bless this Lady! Bravo to her for her tenacity. I know her plight as I walked away from the Amish. The things I saw were without words to explain.
I grew up with "children should be seen, not heard". I can only imagine what you went through. Hugs your way!
I used to have a cat named Jezabel! So I got a real kick out of this.
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me too.
it STILL hurts and I'm gonna be 32 next month! 😢❤
I remember hearing that same thing back when I was a kid.
You're no longer a victim, you're no longer a slave to fear, you are an amazing Mother ❤
From one Mom to another, you are a hero!
Amen!!
Hello Audrey, although I was having my doubts about the Amish community, I did not expect it to be this bad and barbaric.
I salute you and your children for speaking up and especially for standing by you.
May you all be blessed a hundredfold and may God give you the strength and comfort while healing you sll from your pain
You put your kids above all else and protected them...they are lucky to have you and you them!
This is true. I did not have a mother like her but I am thankful her kids had her as their mother. I don’t want any other kids going through what I went through.
I'm a newer subscriber and have listened to numerous episodes so far, and this one..holy crap. This is the first one that made me cry and was hard to get through. Probably because I have 2 daughters and I would absolutely go thru hell and back to protect them. They're my world. Audrey, you're a badass lady. I hope you and your kids continue to find peace and healing. 💜
Thanks for watching! Welcome to C2C! This was also one of my hardest to date. Audrey is a remarkable woman just like my mom and her story mirrored mine
I’m so sorry you had to go through this, you’re a very strong and brave woman and an awesome example to your kids
WOW, that is the definition of ABUSE!!! It's just disgusting to hear this. Lady, I am so sorry this happened to you. ❤
So excited to be one of the first to see this. Thank you so much for everything you do! I ended up in a Christian Cult in college and it really has had negative effects on my life. I still to this day, 15 years later, can’t go to church because of it.
You are better off not going to church
Thanks for watching! ❤️🙏
Me, too
You are an absolutely amazing woman !! You should be so proud of yourself. Wishing you and your family much happiness.
I hope your kids have healed and continue to. And that your baby girl who spent many years trying to unalive herself finds the absolute most amazing new life that helps her feel beyond greatful for surviving the darkest parts of her life.
I hope you and your children were able to get counseling.
My father SA 4 of the 5 girls in our family.
I'm sure my mom knew about it. Started when we were just very young children.
Years later my mom still said.....Get over it ! I'm sick.of hearing about it !….
I made sure I got counseling. Years of it. Probably reason why 3 ofus 4 became drug addicts. Two have died due to drug use. It's called self medicating. Although my one sister who died young,did try to talk to a professional about it,and actually so did my oldest sister ( I just remembered that). She was instructed to write my mom a letter about how she felt about it ,etc. The letter asked my mom why she didn't stop our dad,protect us me My mom got so outraged she threw the letter away, blamed my sister ( as she did when first found out) and was cold to my sister and would hang up on her Everytime she called mom,even on Holidays.
Once I realized my mom knew,and didn't bother to stop the SA by my dad, my relationship with her changed..Before she was everything to me. After that,the hurt of knowing she allowed it to happen for years,I've never fully gotten over. She's gone now,and I'm still so angry with her for not stopping him. We were 3 when it started..Continued thru teens with my oldest sister. I ran away as a teen. A really dysfunctional family with a Narcissist mom, and a Narcissist dad.
Audrey, you are such an amazingly brave and strong woman. The journey you and your children had to endure was unimaginable. I’m so glad you all escaped and are living the beautiful lives you all deserve. Much love and respect to you.
Very great communication and empathy for your guest. These stories need to be told, thank you both.
My heart breaks for all that you and your children have went through. I will never look at these cults the same again.
God bless this woman. Prayers for healing for her entire family. 🙏🙏🙏
You are one terrific woman. I am in awe of you. Many things you talked about resonated with me and I wasn't born or lived Amish, but we lived in the country and were so sheltered. When I started my period, I never knew what it was and my mother threw a pad and a belt on the bed, slapped me on the back, and said, You're an old woman now and that was it. I didn't know what to do with it and I had to ask my sister. I didn't know my body parts either until I asked my husband. I have been recently diagnosed with PTSD from my childhood and I am 68 yrs old and have so many things that happened in my so-called childhood, that I have violent walking nightmares. I wish you and your family the very best.
Not only is it the perpetrators family all standing behind him, that = the victims family standing against them. Absolutely disgusting. This Mama Bear's strength is immeasurable ♡ So admirable ♡ So beyond happy to hear that her kids are doing so well now ♡
Badass momma . Thank you for telling your story. Thank you for advocating for your beautiful babies and taking on the hell you endured … to stop this cycle and run after healing and joy.
Audrey speaking about this must be so difficult. Thank you for your bravery and love. I am keeping y'all in my prayers and pray for the best in y'all's healing journey. Y'all are helping so many heal. Many blessings to you.
Love Jezebell💜 you are such a powerful woman. Your children are extremely blessed to have you in their corner. 🤗
You are a great and strong woman. You should be very proud of how you protected your children.
The fundamentalist societies that place all the blame on the women are creating the abusers. Yes, people have sexual thoughts but obsessing every minute that women are trying to tempt them, they teach girls to be ashamed, they teach boys to think those thoughts are girls' fault and they create adults who complete those viscous circles by spending their days obsessing about how women are trying to lead them astray.
It’s a recipe for disaster that has festered so long! 😢😢😢
These kind of things have leaked into the Mennonite circles as well, with the women having to do so much to keep the men pure. Downcast eyes, high necklines, full skirts, no pullover sweaters only cardigans,.....
Fortunately there ARE good churches out there that upholds godly living. For anyone who's thinks the plain churches are all peaceful and holy, they are NOT!!!
Her audible gulps are gut wrenching. So proud of her!
Thanks for showing me what a loving mom does in this kind of situation. It helps.
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Yes! Thank. You.
It's not only the Amish! My ex, a Lutheran Brethren (Synod, Fergus Falls, MN), though we lived in ND at the time, raped all three of my daughters. I was *shunned* and abused by the whole synod, the countries surrounding where we lived--and, he got off scott-free! He got away without paying child-support. And, ND Courts gave him all holidays and vacations, including Mother's Day! And, when my girls didn't want to go with their dad, the Courts threatened to put me in jail! Wow!
However, though not Amish, all the other manifestations this woman relates was applied, Bill Gothard was big (Basic Youth Confliths); courting, devotions, first night--and, boy, 'the woman is responsible, as mentioned here, for the purity before marriage and his satisfaction afterward (even if he was impotent, figured out anger can be used instead of arousal, which makes all encounters rape)... Oh, man!
I suffer CPTSD. These people can absolutely destroy lives!
Wow..no words. Thank you for giving these brave amazing women a platform to enlighten the world.
I just cant fathom what you and your family went through. I applaud your bravery. I was going to vacation in Pennsylvania because of the amish, but not anymore.
I watched a show, True crime Daily. A Amish girl is raped and pregnant by her brothers. She also was stalked and terrorized by her community. They showed up to support the brothers in court. The abuse this girls survived was amazing. Her story is similar to this one. Graphic too!
I am so proud of all who are finally coming out of all the horrindous abuse actually EVERYWHERE! Thank you for your warrior survival. Least you stood your ground. Thank you so so much. You are a blessing and always know you are free now,you are helping so many people. You are a blessing from Divine Universe to help. You are an angel sent to help OTHER'S!
It's not just the Amish cult.
Love and light and shunning helps the escape. Thank you to bring enlightenment to the world. The memories stay only they become a weapon and survival mode with so many blessings.
Audrey, I want to hug you! As a survivour of ab*se, SA, and IPV as well as a former legal professional, you absolutely did right by your kids.
A plea agreement in this case is success. I'm so glad your kids have such an amazing mother!
I wish you and your kids peace, comfort, and joy ❤
IPV?
I read a book a long time ago about the sexual abuse of Amish girls. It was the writers story. I was so sad for her and heartbroken for her. I have never viewed the Amish the same since. I am sure there are some good groups out there but there are many that are not. God bless you for fighting for your kids and for yourself.
This woman is an actual angel on earth ❤
“They couldnt process their own internal reality so in turn they were unable to process ours.” …. Wow…. The grace and generosity of such a perspective!
Audrey you are a born leader. You showed that with how you handled every challenge. Im in awe of you. Ever onward.
My god this woman is insanely strong. It’s just utterly jaw dropping
😢😢😢 I am so sorry you had to go through all of that 😢. You have become a beautiful advocate for everyone. Warm hugs to you.
Thank you sooo much to Cults to Consiousness for bringing out this stories and creating awareness in our society! ❤ What an amazing and important work!
Yes this happens outside Amish communities. Like going through hurricanes, with a few tornados tossed in. My condolences, and your handling of this was amazing. What strength and grit, and grace.
Thought all of this only happened to girls in my tribe in Nigeria...and in my own home growing up. Comforting to know that we are not alone in all of this.
Hard to know how to personally feel though. The trauma runs extremely deep. Even at 60 years of age.
Thank you for speaking up
This woman is wonderful
I wish I’d had her support when I told my parents
She’s brilliant
You are amazing. I have no words to say how awesome you are for doing what you did and for surviving what you did. And your children are so lucky they had you - as someone who left a cultish, high demand religion myself, I wish my mother had been able to understand and comprehend and hear what I went through - so I send you so much love Audrey.