Comparison on Trangia burners: alcohol, gas or X2 Multifuel, which one fits Your needs?
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- A comparison of the different Trangia burners, noise, time to boil in realistic situation. Pro's and Con's to concider before Your choise. And ofc a reflection of how versatile and compatible the Trangia system is to different preferences and needs, with the options avaliable. Yau could also see hands on in this video how important regular maintenance is for the multifuel burner. Please Comment on the video with Your preferences or experiences!
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For the few extra minutes it takes...I do appreciate the sweet quiet of the Trangia alchohol burner.
Plus with the simmer ring the control issue is mostly solved.
I agree Faith, when outdoors i like to getbthensounds of nature, not rocket burners. However sometimes it is practical.
First-class video. Rare to find a side by side comparison. Highlighting pro's & con's of each option that allows each viewer make the best choice for their own circumstances. Your product experience gives added credibility. Thank you.
Tusen tack / thank you very much for your kind comment BY, encouraging! This is what i tried to do since i've gathered the stoves under 25 years and had them available. ❤
This is one of the best Trangia reviews I have seen. Good facts and very clearly presented. Great review - Thank you for posting it.
Thanks Andrew for your kind words. Encurageing!
Hi Mattias, a great video showing all the burners and again in great surroundings. Thanks for sharing, hope you are well at Si
Thanks! Only one i'm missing is the gel burner. That has an output on 1500w so it should perform as the multifuel but extremely lightweight. Loved the surroundings at this place, stopped with our camper very spontaneous for an overnight. Plan to go back!
Very instructive video. Love the sound of silence when heating with alcohol. Cheers from Montreal QC
Thanks Jeff! Thats how i like it too 🔥👌
This is the best comparison video I've seen on the different burner types. You gave us boil times plus heat output levels and fuel consumption, thank you great work.
Thanks, much appreciated feedback 👌❤️ Happy trails out there!
At the beginning I thought: that’s obvious! Of course you will have the multifuel burner. It works on petrol😄!!
But when I finished watching, I choose the alcohol burner.
Very comprehensive review Matthias!👍🏻
Thank you.
Thanks Nimrod! Use all of them in different sutuations, but if i only had one it would be the alco burner which i also use most often.
Once I realised that the gas burner is insanely fast, simmers usefully which the alcohol simmering does not, and, last but not least, keeps the pans soot-free, I went all in. I have 2 off 25 stoves, and they're getting nice upgrades over time, but the gas burner is by far my most favourite one.
It is definately the best one for cooking. I just like the alcoburner because of it silence and classic. 😁
Great video, never considered the amount of noise a gas burner makes, thanks for putting that in!
Thanks Carlos, bird song is a lot better ☝️😁.
Thank you! About to do my first 5 day wild hike and after this decided on the alcohol trangia; I want to hear my environment too! Thanks again!
Way to go! 5 days sounds nice 👌
Why not take both. The Trangia alcohol burner and a Pocket Rocket gas canister stove. Weight will be your decider usually, so take the lightest Trangia a small gas canister and a couple of titanium pots. I’ve been doing this for years. I don’t take the Trangia stove kit, just the burner and a trivet of some sort and good wind shield.
As the years progress, no doubt like me, you’ll begin collecting stoves and different cook kits. I enjoy my Jetboil too at the moment, I have the Minimo. It is really good. Anyway, good luck on your hiking trips, I hope you enjoy yourself.
Thanks for the comparison... I see pros and cons... I am still attracted to the simplicity of the basic stove... the gas option would be easier to adjust and control, but it was so loud too. Again, thanks.
Mac Daddy I'm with You on this! Rubust, simpel and quiet. 👌🏻
Awesome review! Thanks! I too found out the hard way that my multifuel Primus' nozzle needed cleaning after it took 15 minutes to boil a pan of water :) Yes, huge maintenance on that one. By the way, in cold climates or in mountains you take the gas canister and put it ON TOP of your pan WHILE it's cooking... yes, this is how you do it when it's extreme cold and/or high above sea level.
Like that tip! Something else than turn it upnside down tip.
Enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing. From South Carolina, USA
Thanks for Your kind comment Gary! Closest i ever been to SC is Raleigh in NC, nice part of the country.
This was an excellent review, I had decided to get a multi fuel canister+liquid fuel stove like a Whisperlite Universal, Optimus Polaris or Primus Omnilite Ti but this has changed my mind about stove choice and fuel preference🤔 half the pleasure of being out in the wild is the silence and enjoying the natural sounds, and although ‘on paper’ other fuels win on weight, boil time, cost and safety metrics, it’s really only alcohol that works with the whole point of being out there in the first place, but the multi fuel burner gives the option of burning other fuels when all their better qualities are a practical priority at the time, that’s a very adaptable system that covers all circumstances
I want a Mora Eldris now too 👍🏻
Hi, thanks for your much appreciated comment. I agree with this, a alcoburner and the multifuel (expensive) burner all fuels could be opted for specific circumstances. Happy New Year to You and Yours!
Great review, thank you. I've got all burners (including gel 😁) I too prefer the standard Trangia alcohol burner because it's silent and zero maintenance, except for dirty pot bottoms. Keep it up, i’d love to see more Trangia cooking from you👍
Good to have options! especially in a prepper perspective. How do You like the gel burner? I stoped bothering to get one since i can't find gel everywhere over here. For sure there will be some more Trangia related stuff.
Thanks for a good look at these options.
My pleasure 🙏
Very comprehensive, very well made. Thanks.
Thanks!
Great video thank you ,nicely done helped me up a huge amount. Happy holidays.
Wow, gret to hear! Thanks, God Jul and Happy Trails!
Thanks for this.I really enjoyed it.Good work.
Thanks!
phenomenal tour of use, thank you so much!!!
Thanks! Much appreciated feedback. Happy cooking out there 🤠🔥
Excellent video, thank you!
Thanks for Your comment!
Great video I have the gas and alcohol burners but never seen the multi fuel in operation.
Thanks for your comment! The alcohol and gas burner covers the greater part of most needs. Multifuel is for me just a way to get more preppy. 😁 I normally avoid to do outdoor activities when it's too cold for winter gas and alcohol. 😂
I also have all three burners - I still love the smell and the silence of the alcohol burner but I tend to just use it in the summer as I won't use it inside a tent. I just put the kettle on when I stop and I have a fresh brew by the time my tent is up. I mainly use the multi fuel with gas and only in my 25 series Trangia. Most of the time I use the gas burner in my 27 series and i will cook with that in my tent - I know you shouldn't but I keep the door open a bit and my tent inner is mainly mesh. I got my first Trangia when I was 18 (27 series) and still use it and I'm 55!
Thanks for your comment! Good to have choises, and these stove last for generations. My grown up kids borrow my stoves when they hik on their own 👌. My 25 duossal is from the 90's, good as new.
Hi Matthias, sorry for very late response! Great comparison video, enjoyed it very much. Over the years I have used just about everything that will boil water😂 This is my simple findings! Everyday use when time or weather isn’t an issue, alcohol ever time, when I need a coffee NOW! Or out with the younger generation it has to be gas but when the white stuff is on the ground and the temperature is below my comfort level, white gasoline is the only way to go, more efficient and economical. Many thanks for your time for doing this comparison, kind regards, Clive from deepest Dorset UK
Thanks! That's a very well planned logic of use.
Great comparison 👏 I will be getting the gas conversion after seeing this.
Thanks! I usually prefer the alcohol burner but this summer I used the gas burner more than I have done before. It is definitely more convenient and effective to use over the also burner and that gets more obvious on longer trips. great plan and I really recommend this upgrade.
Thank you for this great comparison. I love my Trangia 25 but was considering the multifuel option as a backup. You showed me clearly that I couldn’t stand the noise! I’ll just carry more metho so I don’t need a backup!
Thanks Fraun! Only reason to get the multifuel is for prepper reasons or if travelling in the worlds more remote or very cold areas.
@@Braapncamp If I may, I think there is a couple of mistakes/misconceptions concerning the X2.
This stove is actually a slightly modified (removal of the simmer control) and rebadged Primus Omnilite. That thing is supposed to output 2600W, not 1600W.
I also am wondering why Trangia only supplies 2 jets. A check of the manual shows those are the ones for Petrol and Kero/diesel. Primus delivers their stove with an additional 0.36mm for gas... You may want to purchase one of those for proper performance with canisters.
As for pressurisation, I think the instructions (no need to mention "the trangia community") under-pressurise this stove badly, and that will lead to poor performances.
Primus recommends 20 strokes on full bottle... "10 strokes" is either a misprint on Trangia's part, or a worry the the tight fitting Trangia 27 windscreen might be overheated (melted ?) by this very powerful stove.
But your stove definitely does not sound happy (chugging, huffing and puffing are not good sounds, the fact that your jet keeps showing little flames and get dirty quickly could also indicate an issue with poor burn brought by under-pressurisation). If you want it to actually do its job, you need to get fuel through it as fast as it can burn it. So pump it up!
Mine roars like a Saturn 5 on take-off, and boils water faster than anything I ever own, but yeah, not discreet and definitely NOT a "tent stove" ;)
But I agree that it's not for everybody. It's aimed at expeditions and extreme weather, to mostly melt snow and boil water, so no need to bother for summer hiking, and "wilderness cooking" attempts will most likely result in charred onions ;).
Thanks for this insightsfull comment! I will try with higher pressure. Why it sonded that bad is explained in the end of the video. I realized that the jet was untight and this still happens now and then during operation.
@@Braapncamp Oh, sorry, I must have missed that. Very nice reviews though!
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Thks very much for this incredible review gives a objective Orientation and deserves More likes 👍🏻
Thanks, much appreciated Triple AAA.
I'm new to the alcohol burner, I've used white gas (gasoline/petrol) or butane/propane canisters for decades. Oh the quiet of the alcohol stove! Yes it has drawbacks but I may have to simply adjust my cooking to compensate! Thanks!
This is a difficult choise, I would have gone with a alcohol burner and a gas burner. I know it costs but to be able to vary is nice. I mostly use the alcohol burner myself.
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Great review!!
Have used gas stoves for 20+ years - and always thought Trangia was an old fashioned system (Forgive me).
Only recently have I seen sense; I've purchased the 27-6 UL with an extra gas burner as a 'back up'. My spirit stove will run on bio-ethanol which is still much cheaper than canister gas & cleaner, as well.
Thanks for your reviews!!
Thanks Hafren! I love that alco stoves are quiet. Simple and robust. Gas is convenient though when time or simmering is of interest. Great combo!
It just works.
Very good video I need to try one thanks
Thanks again for Your kind comment Willis!
For just boiling water, using the alcohol stove that way works well. But for real cooking, when you need more precise temperature control, I recommend preheating the alcohol with a tea light underneath the burner, keeping the choke in the closed position on the burner, as a lid. That will allow you to set the choke so you get the right heat. If you don't preheat the alcohol, the heat will increase as the alcohol burns and adjusting the choke while in use, is not simple. A lot of people will just light the alcohol and wait until it gets hot, but that is very inefficient compared to using a tea light.
Thanks for your experienced comment Jo-Erlend! I have noticed the difference when using the winter attachment to preheat the fuel and burner.
Tak for tippet, Jo-Erlend :)
@@LexLuthor1234: :)
A tea light, eh? Good idea. Trangia sells a preheater that snaps on the bottom but it seems over-priced.
@@Sirrehpotsirch: Their preheater works with alcohol. It's much faster and arguably more reliable, since it's easier to light with a ferrocerium rod if your canoe has flipped, etc. But a tealight works great and can keep your kettle worm in your tent as well, so it's very nice to have.
Great video, thanks!
Thanks mate!
Thanks for the great review. I have the 27 and added the canister insert. Although I prefer to use the alcohol stove, we have many fire bans in my state, this way I can switch to canister if necessary should a ban start in the middle of the trip. Love Trangia.
Thanks! 💪❤️ Thats a great reason and applies to us in Scandinavia as well. Gasburner with cannister is very convenient unde longer trips but I like the alcoburner more. It is classic, quiet, looks good and are simple. Happy trails Carmen!
For UK I use the alcohol burner. The few minutes extra it takes is of no consequence as I am not in a rush and the silent operation is paramount. It also laughs in the face of wind. I slow cooked a lamb curry with simmer ring for about 4 hours ! the meat melted in the mouth ! I own so many different camping stoves I have collected over the years but always take my Trangia when I go camping on my motorcycle. It’s simply the best stove there is.
I agree, the trangias always takes it's place. Love all of my Trangias for different adventures.
I have had both the alcohol and gas burner for many years now. Last year I added the gel burner, which I particularly like for day trips using the 27. For multi day trips especially in the canoe, the 25 with gas in the warmer days or alcohol in the colder is excellent. The Trangia really is the most useful of all the stoves available!
Migrant Hawker Thanks for your comment! Interesting with the gel burner, i have been interested in that as well but not got my hands on one yet. The light weight of it combined with Trangia mini could be something!
Very efficient review. I prefer the spirit burner and the fuel is abundant in stores and gas stations wherever I am traveling in the U.S. I enjoy a quiet morning coffee.
Jan that apply for us in scandinavia too regarding fuels, alvohol for stoves are easy to get. And metoo, regarding how i like my mornings and the moments for resting and eating. It's pretty abvious in this video that birdsinging is more nice to listen to than a ”rocket” 😂😂😂👀
Heet ( yellow bottle ) ( methanol ) boils fastest and leaves zero soot.
Ditto. . Quiet is Good.
Thank you, very informative. Cheers
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated!
I already had the Trangia alcohol stove and decided to get the kit with the 3rd version white gas, butane burner. I did find the white gas (camp fuel) burner does not have great burner control but as a butane burner it works ok. The alcohol version works well but I do go through a lot of fuel in 3-4 days of camping 2 cooked meals/day on average(1+ litres).
The biggest drawback I found is the total volume of the stove nearly fills a 20 litre pannier by itself.
Yes if it is the Trangia 25 it is bulky as a solo stove. I use the 27 on solo trips or eveb the T28 Mini, pending on how i plan to use the stove. I almost allways use the alco burner. Quiet and simple. I litre of ethanol works for a longweekend for me with marginal.
Love you channel, I have been watching just about all your videos! Are you able to do a comparison on the different Trangia materials? i.e. UL , non-stick, HA, Duossal and the discontinued Titanium please? Keen to get your expert opinion.
Ooh, thanks! Now I feel humble. That would be interesting to do. Even if I have both Duossal and HA on my 25 and 27, I only have UL and nonstick on my Mini 28. That would be difficult to compare apple to apple sp to speak. I have nonstick on my large optional 24cm frypan though. But there are many questions to consider. What are the prio, weight or best function? I like Duossal due to it's easy to clean and have good performance when cooking. But I don't use it for backpacking. I like HA over UL since it holds upp better to scratches with it's hard surface, also easy to clean over the UL. Still low weight nonstick is comfy but i have not bought that for the specific characteristic, only due to that is what's offered in those sizes. I have seen comparison to SS vsTitanium frypan yesterday by Paul Bisseker on YT. That could give a direction. Thanks for the idea of future video, that is always welcome. Happy outdoor cooking! /Mattias
Oh, it's Mattias. I didn't realize this was your video until I saw you. A man with a stunning KTM 790R💪 should definitely know a thing or two on burners... I'll watch 😜
😂😂👍🏻 hehe, you are welcome! What do you have in mind regarding the burners?
@@Braapncamp I personally own and have always liked the old fashioned butane burners ( www.skroutz.gr/s/14133412/Thermogas-FKP90.html ), and the obvious dead wood fire pit .
The thing is, wood is scarce on high elevation and gas canisters are not available in some countries, so I think a multi-fuel burner like the Trangia is the only solid option. If I may ask, how well does this set up pack? At 18:43 is that the pack size? Thank you.
Very informative video. I have a 27 with an alcohol burner and a gas burner. I had been thinking about getting a multifuel burner and bottle, but after watching your video it seems rather bothersome.
Thanks Rodger! It is great for what it is designen for, demanding expeditions, cold weather etc. It just need some more care. Retighten the jet now and then and clean the jet, sometimes replace the priming pad.
Tak for en god test og instruktions video. Jeg foretrækker gas, men bruger så kun gryder. Om vinteren kan man lægge gassen på toppen af låget og på den måde holde gassen varm og luftig.
Tackar! Bra tips där också 👍👌💪🔥
Methanol would be nice to compare to alcohol. Nice video!
I agree! As I understand it burns cleaner. It would be interesting. I use a product called Tenol it's a mix of ethanol and methanol. I think it is 5-10 percent methanol. This is what ai use in this video as well.
Fantastic and very informative, thanks for sharing
Thanks Ragnarök!
Mattias Eriksson i just orderd my self the 25-1HA with both the alcohol and gas kit, cant wait to get it, hopefully on friday 😁
@@ragnarok5056 Wow, that's cool! Planned the first cook already?
Mattias Eriksson im not sure yet 😂😂but we will figure it out soon enough, if u got instagram u can see me on @ragnarok_norge
tks for this great review and test. i simply love the sound of nature! wen in the wood i am not in. a hurry. not a race. so few mins more is all good,,,alchool for me! but nice to have option of gas wen i go ice fishing. not mutch birds noises to look for hahaha. again good video
Thanks Marco! Great with options and fishing sounds great 🙌🤠🔥. We actually had a wonderful fish soup today!
Trangia brand multi fuel kit was too expensive so I got an msr dragonfly for my multi fuel capability. I've equipped it with a silent cap which takes it down to unbelievably quiet levels and lowered the boil times as well.
I agree that it is pricey, i've seen the caps ant think it looks like nice upgrade.
Very interesting just found your channel Thankyou
Thanks Chris, much appreciated. Hope You will enjoy some of it!
@@Braapncamp Thank you Mattias I see you are a Biker and Camper vanner like my self and wife.
A great combo 🙌
I live in the Highlands of Scotland.
I have used trangia since 1976 with the alcohol burner, all year round.
The fuel I use is metholated spirits, as the only place to obtain the fuel was the chemist.
I have always used an aluminium bottle and my hint on winter camping is to slip the bottle inside a sock and inside your sleeping bag. (the bottle is very cold if you roll over on it in the night).
But this year a new outdoor shop has opened and I have bought one of those new bottles and the alcohol that I have been told does not blacken the kettle or pan.
I will just have to wait and see if their sales talk is correct.
Thanks for the upload.
Awesome tips! I use Tenol as fuel,.it is dedicated for spririt/alcohol burners, does not soot either. I have been 8 days in the Norwegian mountains right now (still on trip) and took the gasburner for the first time since early 2000's. Happy that i did. Like the alcobuener and use it most of the time. But gas was convenient on a trip like this. Happy trails!
I love that my Trangia kettle is starting to go black. Don’t know why but it’s seems to be getting some character.
Thats important, it does not look as a kettle that brew great brews otherwise ! 👀☝️😁💪☕️🤌😂
Good stuff
Thanks and happy trails!
Alcohol stove every time. I use a alcohol one mostly. Boil time is 10 mins mostly without using the windgaurd even. You simply can't beat a Trangia, its compact and quiet. Quiet is very important doesnt scare wildlife off. Ive had a wallaby walk straight past a copse I was in making coffee once, stop look at me and wander off. Gas stove, he'd have gone out of his way to avoid the noisr
That's the best part of going with alco burner, relaxed, quiet and simple. So nice when outdoors for the meaning with being outdoors.
Yes, alcohol stove for me to and you can do a stealth camping
Exactly! And enjoy the sound if wildlife.
@@Braapncamp my "nature hike" alcohol stove that i love with 40 ml of biofuel lasted over 45 minutes of burn time
I love relaxing with alcohol stove rather than to worry about carnister or multifuel stoves that could explode do to the leak'age or vapors escaping . Alcohol stoves are reliable, light, and quite
Hi Mattias. Thanks for a very informative review. Great channel! I have recently purchased a 27 series with alcohol burner, so I'm still learning to cook on it at the moment. One thing I have found, is that when I use the frying pan, a lot of soot forms on the base( I'm using bio-ethanol fuel.) When you cook do you have the same issue? What would recommend to reduce the soot and how do you clean your kit while out hiking please? Cheers! :-)
Thanks Stuart! I use Tenol for fuel. It's Ethanol with some percentage of methanol. This mix does not soot. If I use pure Ethanol with the soothing ingredients that denaturates it, it helps with max 10% water mixed in.
... and I just clean the bottom outside of pan and pots rubbing (rotating) on the ground (grass or moss). Wayer and sand does good as well. I often carry a small piece of sponge soaked I detergent in a plastic bag, stored in the stove.
Thanks Mattias - that's really helpful information. I will give it a go next weekend. Please keep your cooking videos / recipes coming - I've tried your bacon and sour cream pasta dish - it was delicious! Thanks again. Stu :-)
@@stuartedwards843 ohh, thats cool and inspires me to make something up.
Adding a small amount of water to the fuel definitely helps. Another tip for cleaning sooted pans learned in the Army is to use a used wet tea bag. Works a treat!
I used and older version of the multifuel burner when I rode my bike from Urumqi to Istanbul. Diesel burned way cleaner than unleaded for whatever reason. It created a lot less soot and was an excellent and reliable fuel while on the road. The only problem is that the bottle stopped taking pressure because the seals wore out. I think it's because I left diesel in there for too long (over a year, much of that time was after the tour where my equipment sat unused in my basement) and it corroded or dried out the o-rings. They may have made it more robust since then (this was back in 2009), but probably good to pull everything apart and let the bottle dry out every once in a while. If anyone has any thoughts comparing this multifuel model to older ones, I'm all ears.
Sounds like a cool adventure Konrad! I have never used diesel as fuel with this Multifuel burner. Very curious though, probably works great, what did you preheat the burner with?
as I noticed there are two different versions. One with a flat valve and the other one is vertical. is there any difference in performance? which one is better? and another question is can I use it with canister upside down?
I have the 25 year old gasburner, the new one is better. Yes you can use the canister upside down.
I made gas stove fitting to trangia. It had to do lighly filing to get in to regular hole. Pot sitt lower than normal, on the gas legs. Gas stove is otherwise too light and its legs turn too easily. Now it better.
HI, That sounds like a great mod!
I don't recall you talking about burner acquisition costs in your comparison. The alcohol burner comes included in Trangia kits or you can have gas burners as the default in the kit. Haven't seen a kit with the multifuel burner included, so that will always be an add-on. Using the Trangia webshop as the reference for pricing, the multi-fuel is about 20x more expensive than the alcohol burner. The gas burner is about 4x more expensive. So the alcohol burner wins here again.
Then there's the factor of waste creation. The multifuel is the best here. If you use petrol or diesel, there's no disposable packaging involved whatsoever - just refill the fuel bottle at a gas station. Both the alcohol and gas options require disposable packages at some point. The gas is much more worse here because you run through gas canisters much more quickly than alchool bottles and gas canisters are probably more difficult to recycle.
Thank You for this very valid and important aspect of this subject. You are correct that I did not get into this at all. These aspects are very important to consider beside the technical pro's and con's. I will pin your post at top. Cheers!
@@Braapncamp Thanks! I did edit the comment slightly to refer to add "webshop" to Trangia as the point of reference for pricing.
Oh, and I ordered a 25 Duossal (very hard to find at the moment) today to use in an upcoming trip to the Alps! I'll obviously start with the Alcohol burner ;-)
@@srg-yo Awsome, this contributes. The Trangia Webshop was planned to ship outside of Sweden about this time. Earlier the webshop Only shipped to Sweden. However, the prices could still be used as reference In any case, as well the place to visit to be able to see the range of optional items.
The Duossal is a great and robust kit! Love it. I used it for camping trips when my kids still camped with us. Just forme it's too bulky, still use it ofc in when larger capacity is handy and weight is no issue. Have a great trip!
Interesting video. Have you tried using the canister burner with propane? Pure propane can handle colder weather than even the iso-propane mixes and you can purchase an adapter for under $6.00 here in the U.S. I like having the option of using either fuel with my canister burner. I also like wood stoves and alcohol stoves depending on me mood, or my situation, but having the option of using very inexpensive pure propane which can be used in colder conditions than iso-butane does make me appreciate canister stoves that much more.
Hi, thanks! No i have only used the propane/butane mixed cannisters for winter use. Works great so far. 👌 Great tips!
@@Braapncamp Hello to you, and thanks.
Suitable size gas burner fit with trangia, without any changes. Coleman 533 and similar its model not need preheating. It start blue flame at once. Small engine fuel is good for it.
Thanks for your tips and God Jul!
Having cooked with multi fuel and gas. I’m keen to give Trangia a go. Slow, cheap, quiet and simple. Just how I like my hikes!
Thats how i like it too, Evert time i use the gas or multifuel i in someway regret to not use the alcohol burner. But the others have their bright moments in some more extreme or practical situations. I use the alcohol burner 90% of all time outdoor cooking. Thanks for Your comment!
My ideal choice of Trangia is the 27 with alcohol burner because I love the silence but for motorbike trips the multifuel just makes sense. I can half fill the fuel bottle because I've always got more in the tank already fitted to the bike.
I filled a 1 litre fuel bottle on a trip, that was both spare fuel to the bike and for the multfuel burner, so it works both ways if needed.
Very true, the main reason for the multifuel burner is I know for sure every day or so I'm going to have access to refuel.
I have other smaller stoves if all I'm doing is cooking occasionally (Jetboil Stash is my preferred option for this) but overall the 27 is well worth the extra weight and pack size to allow cooking of proper meals. It's been my most used stove every year for over 20 years now.
@@StokeBeaver The Trac´ngia concept is very hard to beat as a robust true storm cooker or just as a versatile outdoor cooker. To pack smaller on solo trips ,I modified the T28 Mini Trangia to fit the X2 Multifuelburner as well. But i use tha alco burner mostly, since i like the silence and simplicity. Cheers 🙏🤠💪
Interested to see the T28 adaption (I have one of those too).
Ideal would be adapting the multifuel burner to hold my Jetboil Stash pan
I have a couple of videos with the T28 and X2 burner combined, videos where I ride north on the Trans Euro Trail. Some summera ago. There is a Hilleberg tent on the thumbnail. I just filed a slot for the fuel line in the small "wind shield".
I choose alcohol for the quiet, but I must admit it’s a chore to regulate temperature compared to propane.
George McWilliams Thanks for Your comment! Quiet and simple, thats for me too. But the different burners has it's advantages in different situations.
Hank hill could have told you that, there's nothing like propane for a clean burning stove
Do i need to clean the X2 Multifuel burner after each time if i use gasoline? But i guess that you dont need to clean it if you use gas? Tack för en mycket bra kanal.
This is pretty much what I need to do, clean the jet every time and also more or less retorque the jet as well with the tool that is included. Rather annoying, but ok if you really need this type of burners capabilities. Never had problem with LPG/Gas. Tack för titten! 🙌😁
@@Braapncamp Tack för snabbt svar.
Can you put the multi fuel burner inside of the 27 or 25 for a windscreen?
Hi, not sure if ibunderstand the question correctly. The Trangia X2 multifuel burner is made to fit inside the Trangia windscrenns of 27 and 25. You can also store the burner it self inside the stove, but stores best in the pouch it came with. Please elaborate if I didn't catch You.
Do you add small qty of water to the alcohol burner (Trangia recommend 10% to prevent black soot)?
Hej Garrett, i use Tenol (Kemetyl) a alcohol fuel available in Sweden. It is Ethanol with approx 5% Methanol blend. No soot. But I have bought a jug with denaturated Ethanol right now and recommendation is to blend up to 10% water in that. I will try without first and see if it is that bad that it was in the 90's 😂
looking from emergency point - the best recommendation for motorcyclist exploring remote areas is multifuel burner for example optimus polaris 4.2 kw on petrol, but the main advantage is choice of the bottle up to 1,5 litre it could be as add. reserve for bike if bike run out of petrol... from other side petrol burner could be used as heater in tent (with some limitation of course- CO gas is toxic) when you just burning your petrol stove during whole night,..other fuel stoves are very limited at this point...
The Trangia multi burner is a Primus Omnifuel with an insert for seating it into the Trangia base in place of its usual stand-alone base & pot supports - so it's basically the same concept as the Optimus Polaris.
You are right guy's! This is the trangia version of multifuel burner. It fits the Trangia 27 and 25. But I have modified the small pot stand in the Trangia Mini (28) so the burner even fits to this kit. My opinion and thought with this kit is exactly the reason you mention and i run it on gas/petrol. It could be run with canned gas, diesel, kerosene as well. I also have the original burner that comes with the kit which burns alcohol. Lightweight and small volume. 👍💪
...I usually prefer to run it with alcohol though since it totally quiet and that makes me enjoy the sound of nature more ☝️😁🤠
Good compared.. ☝️👍
Thanks Torsti and happy trails!
Beautiful lunch time envy country
Thanks, all countrys has it's charm! Are You hiking where You live?
@@Braapncamp in South Korea asia
Thats Cool! Must be a beautiful country as well 🙌
Get all three burners
This is the way! 😂👌
Tack så mycket, nu har jag bestämt mig. Det är inte så stor tids skillnad mellan sprit och gas. Plus problemet när det blir kallt i Norrand under vintern. Tänker att köpa en vinter adapter istället.
Kul att vara till hjälp, jag gilla spritbrännaren för att den är tyst och simpel. Men gas är faktiskt märkbart snabbare. Börja med sprit, komplettera med gasbrännaren senare om du känner behov.
@@Braapncamp Jag också har ett par snuskburkar, en stål och en aluminium, stål används mest 🇸🇪🇬🇧
@@jfilm7466 coolt, de skall användas! Jag har två i stål och använder dem då och då.
What is actually good about the Trangia, 25 and 27 is that it is a system, stove, windbreak and pots all in a compact package with multiple options for fuel. Not the sort of thing you would take out for a day hike though as it is too bulky.
The most versatile stove out there IMHO. I use it on dayhikes, which stove i choose is more to what i'm going to cook. Stay wild! 💪❤
A remarkable place to quietly sit. You don't mind, I hope, if I cherish a burning jelousy?
Hey, indeed it is! I just loved the place as well. The name of the place is Kyrkekvarn (Church mill) Thanks for commenting!
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Sounded way better after the cleanup. We’ll done
Thanks! I'm happy that this aspect to the mote complicated burner came in to the comparison by accident. 2 things, clean the jet and tighten the jet. The jet seems to unthread it self during operation. Has happened a few times. Works great if pre run check is do e properly. ☝️😂
@@Braapncamp I use an optimus Polaris that also loosens up and has to be tightened. I’m guessing it’s from the expansion and contraction of the different metals during temperature cycles. Kinda weird. I’m awaiting delivery of a trangia gas burner right now. Can’t wait. Thanks for the tutorial
@@Saltfly i agree that is my thought as well. Now i check it regularly during the days i use it. Replaced the pad as well that has a rather short life. Feels good to have a preppy stove 😁. Enjoy cooking with the new gasburner!
Did not know there was a multifuel burner, perhaps I should get one, and a pair of earplugs. It is horses for courses really, classic meths stove is bombproof and reliable a good fall back if all else fails as meths is plentiful, however for a static camp gas is convenient and quick. Gel has its place too, but the trangia gel burner is a joke, it is just an empty tin, an empty shoe polish tin is much the same.
If you don't camp in the extreme cold or remote, stick with the alco burner. One thing i could give the multifuelburner is that it is fun to fiddle and it runs on camping gas as well. If yiu have petrol as fuel for other stuff on yiur adventures it could also be good.
Get your self a lindel to propane adapter for your gas burner as propane runs a much lower temps than is butane
And your x2 multi fuel burner some people have trouble with shooting so only run it with 7 to 10 pubs as they have lowered the but output on them for trangia
Thanks for your tips! We hdve propane mix in the canisters for wintetuse. You are correct on the number of strokes to pressurise the X2, har tried that before and learnt that this is the sweet spot. 👌 Happy Trails and New Year!
Happy holidays to you sir
He hi got rid of the x2 my self as it was to temperamental hi now only use the spirit burner with bio methonol and my gas as backup and as hi dead hi use it with the kindle to propane scraper on a 1lb
16.4 bottle and it works very well in low temps here in uk
Also, you have to add the time of the preheating for the multifuel stove, because when you wake up in the morning and boiling a cup of coffe the time is essential, so then the gas stove wins easy :-D
You are correct sir! I released another video just a second ago with more thoughts on the multifuel stove and when i use it even if I don't prefer it ☝️😁
@@Braapncamp My best one is the OPTIMUS 111, wich the Norwegian military use (it is made in Sweden). A bit heavy though, but great with kerosene. The alkohol stove is as you mention great when you have time and want to listen to the birds :-)
That Optimus 111 (SVEA) is a stove that i would like in my stash of stoves. Never got to get one. Sure that is a great stove and packs away rather small. A classic stove that succeed among hikers. Do you bring a frypan as well or are gmhaply withvheating water?
@@Braapncamp Yea, a relatively small pack that one since the fuel is in the same box, but i wish the box itself was made of aluminium rather than heavy steel. Great thoug for short walks. I have a small alu. frypan with me. The stove is still to get used. They are also to get brand new,the Optimus "hiker+" wich i don`t like (ugly green color!). My next one will be the Optimus 8 "Hunter"! Smaller and lighter but can be VERY expensive to get hold of! :-D
Aaah, onother stoveoholic 🙌😁. I have not started to collect the older Primus, Svea, optimus stoves. But have alot of other stoves. Always ready for use. Besr thkng is that the grown up kids are hiking on their own so all stuff get used. 👌
Me: fumbling with matches, lighter, ferro rod, toilet paper, leaves. Burning the planet while at it. Eating my food cold.
Mattias: Knive plus ferro: ''Okay we have the fire''.
Hehe, hmm... maybe I should have some bloopers in the end of videos 👀😂.
It sounds like the multifuel stove is meant to be used with little fuel in the canister and many pumps (high pressure) to finely aerosolize the fuel for a more efficient burn.
Yes or max 7 pumps when full, that works.
They don't work that way. The fuel is not aerosolised. The pressure is just to push fuel through the fuel line. Initial priming heats part of the fuel tube which vapourises the fuel which is then lit. The subsequent heat then keeps the vapourisation going. The pressure then keeps the fuel flowing, so a higher pressure can increase flow rate limited by the stove control.
@@Harmless69 Thats the logic function, but I've learnt to adapt to the burner and systems practical function. Maybe the first generation had a better valve function to control flow?
@@Braapncamp so the original optimus nova burner had a very small end to the fuel line. It was about the diameter of a pencil snd fit easily through the small hole you pointed out. This connected to the quick release on the optimus pump. The flame control stuck out of the big hole. When Katadyn took over optimus they redesigned the nova connection and eliminated the quick release. Also around this time Trangia started sourcing the Primus multifuel stove as the multifuel Trangia burner... Primus has a very large end to the hose as you see. It fits easily trough the large hole but not through the old small hole. This is a problem for using the Omnifuel stove because it needs to be backwards compatible with older stormcookers that customers already own. Presumably the decision to use the Primus multifuel stove that does not have the valve at the burner has to do with this. I adapted the Omnifuel to my Trangia systems and had to widen the small hole to be about the size of the larger one. I have a video on this. th-cam.com/video/zmbd5lqfIyE/w-d-xo.html
That sounds reasonable, a suboptimized function due to design/configuratuon issues. Will have a look at your video my friend!
Have you ever inverted the gas canister to burn liquid canister gas with the gas burner?
Yes! With butan i always need to do tvat in lower temps. Works OK.
@@Braapncamp I’ve seen some vids showing that the official Trangia brand canister burner flame will ‘flare’/pulsate when the canister is inverted, while the cheaper copies don’t tend to flare? Have you had problems with ‘flaring’ when using canisters inverted? Thanks
@@impermanenthuman8427 I have the older version of the Trangia gas burner, it does not work as good when using it in liquid mode as in normal use. But int works, more difficult to control it. I actually had to do this at one of my trangia videos. The latest trangia video when comparing materials. HA vs Duossal. I used cheaper gas with less or no propane, which forced me to turn the canister. But everything worked great.
@@Braapncamp yea I’ve read there is a difference with the design of the valves which connect into the gas canisters? The straight/vertical valves don’t work as well, but the ones that are flat/‘right angled’/corner don’t pulsate as much? The newer design has the flat/right angle valve it seems, so you would suggest getting the newer version if inverting canisters is needed?
Yes probably, but if it works or not is more connected to the design of that tubing close to the burner, makes liquid to vaporize. The valve it self should only affect simmering feature? The old valve has a shorter can valve opener i think which was a problem which can brand you choose. Had problem with that 20 years ago but not now.
x2 burners are not available unfortunately. Would love one
Ohh, i see that! Looked at the Trangia shop. Some outdoor shops could have it in store though or if You find a used one. Either short of supplies or a redesign ongoing? I like it but it is only necessary for extreme adventures. I bought I because it's preppy and practical to be able to use different fuels or for longer motorcycle adventures, when the fuel could be redundant between bike and stove. The other burners are more practical for everyday use though. Hope You get one when available!
@@Braapncamp Thanks, that's what I'm planning for, canoe and motorbike trips. I dont mind the gas, it's quick and the alcohol is good too.
The lightest setup remains the traditional alcohol burner with alcohol in a water bottle or the plastic bottle it came in ...
Thanks for the info!
@@Braapncamp I guess you knew =-:O that said I just bought a fuel bottle for the convenience, it’s just that they take up space when not in use …
Bonjour So which one is the best ?
Bonjour, bonne journée au soleil! I alwys recommend to go with the alcoburner as base, the gasburner is very practical though so hhats the one to complement with from the beginning or later.
Ok Merci 🤗👍
Hva heter den genseren ?
Det vet jag inte, köpte den i Norge 2011 tror jag. Det är ju ingen äkta lusikofta, det är en windstopper, men jag gillar den 👌
How hard is it to simmer on the alcohol stove? I've read lots of reviews of people complaining they can't cook on it, only boil water
Jay Kae thanks for your question! I cook alot of different things on the Trangias with the alco burner, never had any difficulties with that. To simmer with the alco burner ofc need some input from you, can't say it's hard though. To say that it's only good for boiling water is not true.
Easy with the simmer ring, but adjusting the temperature can be tricky with the windshield in place. My Trangia simmers a lot better than my MSR Reactor, which is very quick, but does not simmer.
Not difficult add the lid with the simmer ring and open it about one third. If you use gas and Trangia is complete easy.
Why does this guy look like Will Ferrell as Harry Caray? Just kidding (although you do look like Will). Great reviews, in any event. :)
Had to google this, hehe... you are spot on and I had a laugh. Other say I look like that animated guy Up.... 👀🙈
It takes more minutes to boil but once it reached that point it would not make any difference to others.
I like it quiet, it's worth the few minutes in difference.
@@Braapncamp I live in a busy city ....I like to watch videos like this .....life is too short to be in a rat race
trinity 777 somewhat know that feeling! It's nice to live close to different type of wild landscapes.
The multi fuel option is a bit of a faf and I don't see myself using it .
I could not recommemd it if not lpg or alcohol is hard to get or if there is extreme cold where you plan to use it. I use it at trips where petrol is good to share between bike and stove as spare fuel.
@@Braapncamp I live in UK. It doesn't get cold enough to need this. I have used the meths burner on Welsh mountains in winter in the snow without any problems. That is my go to fuel for a Trangia.
Mine too! Quiet and just works 👌
⚠️ for Australian viewers, you cannot use the alcohol burner in National Parks. Only gas burners. You should never use an alcohol burner anywhere on total fire ban days, and use alcohol fuel and gas with extreme caution during the entire Fire Danger Season.
Great advises! Thats the same rules as over here (Sweden) except from it is allowed to use the alco burner everywhere except from where it is permanent or temporary fireban. We have no general ban at National Parks.
If there are beavers around.... boil that water really well... guardia is pretty nasty. 🤢
Hey Faith, You are right about that! Beavers are common over here. At this place there was fresh evidence as well. Boiling and or filtering. Thanks for the advise and take care!
no need for gas burner after all i guess then
I actually like the gasburner for longer trips, but 90% of the time i use the alcoburner. Trangia have dsigned a new gasburner as well, have not tested it yet though. Happy Trails!
@@Braapncamp Yes, just thinking of the Trangia Primus as an addition to alcoburn.. no need for the multiburner tho cuz it's quite expensive
So jealous of people who get to camp out and cook!
Thanks Maria, i hope that You can enjoy outdoor cooking as well!
@@Braapncamp I haven't been outdoors in ages. I am housebound but when i was mobie and young, I enjoyed camping.
For UK I use the alcohol burner. The few minutes extra it takes is of no consequence as I am not in a rush and the silent operation is paramount. It also laughs in the face of wind. I slow cooked a lamb curry with simmer ring for about 4 hours ! the meat melted in the mouth ! I own so many different camping stoves I have collected over the years but always take my Trangia when I go camping on my motorcycle. It’s simply the best stove there is.
I tend to always go back to my Trangias as well, a complete kit as it is and nicely stuffed togeather. I have a nice collection of stoves but no stove is as versatile. Hobostove is the only option i concider sometimes and it holds the alco burner as well if needed.